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US Trip 2012 Part 2: Oh (Air) Canada: BRU-YUL-YYZ  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
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Introduction

This is the second part in my Summer 2012 US Trip Report. It covers the flights from Brussels to Toronto via Montreal and the next day’s continuation to Newark, US.

For the earlier parts, see these:

- Part 0: US Trip 2012 Part 0: Prologue (JYV-TLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 1: US Trip 2012 Part 1: Warming Up (HEL-TXL-BRU) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)

The flights making up this part:

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Thursday 14.6.2012

So my alarm kicks me up at around 7.00 in my hotel room in Brussels. After a shower and the usual morning activities trying to make best with what little I have I gather my trash and head downstairs, where the front desk person has mysteriously been changed into an Asian girl overnight, still as less Aryan as the guy the night before. After handing in my key I go outside and down a few streets towards the station and then get a bit of a shock. Yes, I am well aware this is the red light district of Brussels but no, I actually had no idea the girls would be already out there “on duty” before eight on a weekday morning!. Yes, I’m walking down this street, and then happen to glance up to a display window. I see something which I assumed was a display doll on a shop window and get a shock since she is waving for me to get inside - whoah, bright and early these girls (or maybe they are just late, come to think of it)!

Anyway I give her a regretting shake of my head and a small wave and head forward to the Gare du Nord entrance.

I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

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The next airport train is in ten or so minutes - just enough time to grab a continental breakfast on the go - sadly the customer before me buys the last croissant so I have to agree to the girl’s suggestion of a pain au chocolat with my Cappuccino instead.

I eat my breakfast while waiting for the train up on the platform - it is a glorious, sunny morning with clear skies and unlimited visibility - should be great weather for flying, lucky me!

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Eventually the train arrives and fifteen minutes later I hop off at the airport stop.

Brussels Airport or How Not To Handle Check In

I take the escalator two levels up to the check in, locate the Air Canada check in row and have a laugh at some poor buggers whose flight has this long queue:

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Oh well, like they told in that “holy” fairy tale book - do to others what you wish upon yourself. Yes, you guessed it - the next moment I realize that this is the check in queue for *my* flight! I mentally kiss my Star Gold card a thank you kiss and head for the considerably shorter business class queue, only to be stopped by a “security agent” asking which flight I’m on.
- “Toronto”
- “Today or yesterday?”
Now this was a completely unexpected question. I’ve been known to lose all sense of time when doing something deeply engrossing like drinking, writing these trip reports or planning a new exciting itinerary but right now I’m pretty certain I am not missing a day and my drinking the previous night was quite moderate.
- “Err... today?”
- “Check in is not open for you yet. These are people from yesterday’s flight! Go away!”
(Okay, she might’ve been a bit more polite with that last wish but the message was clear).

I ask what happened - she says that yesterday’s flight went mech so Air Canada put the passengers to a hotel and today there will be two flights, the one from yesterday and the one I am booked on. Ok, makes sense I guess - I ask when she expects them to be done with these passengers.
- “No idea, maybe half an hour or so.”
- “Ok, can I use the self service kiosks?”
- “Yes, certainly”.
- “Thank you.”

See, it is already delayed by an hour - interesting that they didn’t use some auxiliary flight number but the original AC833 instead. This means there will be *two* AC833s today:

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Ok, I’ll try the kiosk. I wanted to drop my rollaboard off at the desk since I got a bit annoyed by dragging it with me yesterday but I guess I can do carry on only if it gets me to the lounge faster! Oh, I forgot to mention that I tried OLCI several times the previous night and it never worked. Air Canada claims that you can use it only 24 hours before the *last* flight on your itinerary departs which sounds a bit bollocks to me and since my last flight is probably the UA flight to EWR it still is some 36 or so hours away...

Off to the kiosk. There are two of them, shared by SAS and Air Canada. Unfortunately there’s an SAS flight to Copenhagen soon so there are quite a few of their passengers using the kiosks as well. Eventually I get to it, and have the privilege of using the world’s slowest check in application - seriously this one makes even Windows to look like the fastest OS on the block.

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Slowly I get to the point where it asks me to scan my passport (which luckily is quite a recent one and thus machine readable) - IMHO this is completely unnecessary and just BS but looks like I have to do it anyway. And this is where the process stalls - after getting the machine to properly read the passport (takes quite a few attempts) it tells me that I’m most probably a terrorist or a religious zealot (aren’t those two usually the same thing?) since the name on the passport doesn’t match the one on the ticket. Well, of course it doesn’t match - ever heard of Scandinavian characters which certainly can wreak all kinds of havoc if they make their way into CRS systems - just like pretty much any character outside the 7-bit original ASCII range - gotta love legacy mainframe systems! Oh and I do happen to use my middle name as my forename, thank you very much.

No dice here, so to avoid an artery bursting in my brain (yes, I am quite pissed off at this point) I head outside to the cool morning air to sit down for a while and smell the sweet smell of jetfuel (almost as good as the smell of fresh napalm in the morning, I can tell ya!).

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There are limited views to the maintenance hangars on the other side of the 25R runway and what do I see there:

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I guess this might be the previous day’s mech bird then.

Another DHL depot specially dedicated to AYA333:

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Half an hour later I decide to head inside. I notice the Air Canada queue has grown, not shrunk as I assumed it would be, oh bugger! I take a walk around the check in area, trying to see if the Air Canada ticket desk could somehow help me, but the girls there are totally clueless and most certainly cannot add a “passport verified OK” kind of information into my reservation. So I sigh, give in and head to the queue which has deteriorated into a sort of cluster of people pushing and showing every which way. I ask another security agent “Can I now check in for today’s flight?” and she assures me that yes, that should be kosher. The agent I talked earlier with is there as well, she finally manages to get some order into the queues and leads me to the business class one.

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And then it starts. The wait. The horrible, horrible, long wait. They have four or five desks open, one for business class/status passengers and the rest for economy. It soon becomes clear that they are *still* checking in passengers from yesterday’s flight and we others must still wait. This takes an eternity, people have tons of luggage and it appears as their connections ex-YUL/YYZ haven’t been properly rebooked so the agents have to do all that. What a chaos! The business class desk is staffed by an older woman well into her fifties and she seems to be the slowest of them all - I time it and it takes over five minutes for her to handle every passenger/couple checking in with her. Looks like they have finished with all the business class passengers on that flight so they are using that desk to call people from the economy line, tsk tsk.

Hooray, I can actually see the desks already:

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I chat on and off with a guy behind me who flies this route often and says that he usually flies ex-BRU instead of CDG (both of which are about equidistant from the place he stays in) just because the CDG ground handling is such a mess and BRU has always been a doddle. Well not today, it appears! The announce that our flight has been pushed back with a 35 minute delay announced - we both seem to share the same opinion that this will not be enough.

No, I most certainly am not very “appy” right now:

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All in all it takes me an hour and a quarter (YES, 1h15mins. This is completely unacceptable.) in that queue to finally reach the business class check in desk. The woman is quite friendly but appears to be under a lot of stress. She also doesn’t really have that aura around her that she would know what she’s doing - she asks if I have a visa for the US. After I say “I don’t need a visa” she doesn’t really acknowledge me in any way, just continues with her typing. The whole thing again takes almost ten minutes - she asks me to provide the address of the hotel where I’m staying in the US. I point out that I filled that info in using the United website, but apparently she doesn’t see it and the system won’t let her check me in without that. Oh well, it’s not like you are in the same alliance or anything...

At least she tags my bag with a priority tag, I say that those things are mostly useless as on most airports they just don’t honor them at all, but she insists that it is part of the service. After handing me my boarding pass she informs me that this flight will not be a direct one as there’s a stop in Montreal where we need to clear Canadian immigration and customs. I inform her that yes, I am well aware of this fact, thank you (but don’t mention that it was one of the reasons for booking this very flight...).

Next stop is the passport control where they have only a single lane open for EU citizens and many more for other passports, annoying.

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Oh, I’m a tasty EU burger, that’s me:

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There’s one more obstacle on the way - the security check. Luckily this one is quite smooth, apart from the fact that I get stuck behind a bunch of Turkish youngsters who don’t seem to be very familiar with the concept of airport security. Well the girl is too hot to be annoyed by that anyway (wow, this is starting to sound like one of Markus’ reports).

Once finally airside I see my flight is showing as boarding. Well not so fast, I’m most certainly not missing a lounge visit here! So I quickly buy a horribly overpriced bottle of water from “Grab’n’go” (thought about just grabbing it and going like their name suggests but somehow that didn’t seem right) and shoot a picture of my ride-to-be out of the large cafe window:

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Such a beautiful bird. It might not have the awesome power, size and technology of its bigger sister, the triple seven, but a 767 is still a lovely plane.

I head upstairs to the lounge with the elevator - it spits out at least ten Air Canada passengers from my flight... At the lounge front desk the girl says “Sir, your flight is boarding!”. At this point I’m just about to had it with the crap ground handling process here so I snap back “Look, I just spent one and half hours in queues and I’m going to have my drink here no matter what!”. The girl understands that I’m not in a mood to argue with and that there’s a certain look in my eyes so she just hands me my boarding pass and says: “Welcome. Just don’t miss your flight.”.

So in I go. Indeed not much time here, but it looks like quite a nice lounge with excellent apron views. Too bad it is absolutely packed with UA and US pax from America - you know, loud, chatty and all about “me, myself and I”.

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Ahh, refreshments:

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It might still around ten thirty in the morning but I’ll have my Leffe, no matter what. So I do, sitting by the window, enjoying the apron views and making a quick use of the wifi (which annoyingly requires you to get access vouchers from the front desk - I go get one and the girl again says “But sir, your flight is boarding!” - yes thankyouverymuchforthat).

Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

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Hey, what’s that - another AC bird? Or maybe they just towed the one here from where I saw it earlier:

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Long haulers:

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David and Goliath (oh, and Nils, when are you going to do one of those Tyrolean Dash operating for SN flights - I want to read a report about them?):

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After the Leffe I feel much mellower and calm, so I decide to head onboard. I’m pretty sure I hear a small breath of relief from the front desk girls when I thank them and leave - maybe their bonuses are somehow affected by the number of passengers missing their flight.

The gate is right below the lounge which is nice. There are no queues anymore - another plus point for boarding late so after getting my boarding pass scanned (bugger, no beep signaling an upgrade) I walk directly onboard.

Finnair ad inside the walkway - actually quite clever to put these on the non-Schengen part:

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Hey, what’s this:

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I checked the inbound flight’s progress on flightradar24 and it showed C-GDUZ operating AC832 but this bird most certainly isn’t that one. The only explanation I can come up with is that they switched the planes around, so this is the plane that actually broke down and was supposed to operate AC833 yesterday and that flight is now enroute with C-GDUZ. Oh well, in any way it will be a new registration for me so all is fine.

This bird is over 22 years old, having spent all of its life with Air Canada. Interestingly this was the first plane to carry the new (current) Air Canada livery, here’s to that!

BRU - YUL
AC833
B767-300 C-FXCA
Seat 37A
11.23 - 12.42

Inside it looks like our whole crew is all-male, later when approaching Montreal I saw a single female FA who apparently served in the business class cabin, but apart from that it is all males, mostly young and mostly very friendly.

The cabin - apart from the small overhead bins you’d have a hard time knowing this bird’s age - the XM program AC carried out some years ago certainly did them good:

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The legroom is fine:

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PTV:

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USB power (also notice the regular US power socket in the above photo):

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Pillow & blanket:

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I lucky out on this flight - a free seat next to me, yay! Come to think of it on all my last four flights to or from the US I’ve had an empty seat next to me, that is a winning streak I certainly don’t want to break!). The overall load in economy is maybe 80%, most of the empty seats are concentrated here in the back cabin.

The IFE system:

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Personal “gaspers” as our Dutch friends like to call them - a very welcome feature not found on many widebody planes:

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Our route today - having a free seat next to you gives you the nice ability to use the PTV next to you as a permanent airshow.

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The captain makes a welcome speech, announces our flight time “gate to gate” as 7h36mins with 7h6mins “in the air” (why is is always the Americans and Canadians who are so exact with these times?).

The purser announces that our crew today speaks Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and Italian, and I assume English and French as well.

It’s a good thing I didn’t bet with the guy on the queue about our delay as we eventually push back just 43 minutes late, eight minutes later that what they announced back then. Quite a remarkable achievement - looks like they really hurried checking in the rest of the passengers!

Pushing back:

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The giver and the taker:

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And a future taker:

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Tailing an SN A330 to 25R:

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...and overtaking it:

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After a small Dutchling:

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…it is our turn to go:

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And off we go - part of the motorways leading into Brussels which Nils always talks in horror about:

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And here’s Gare du Nord surrounded by Crook Highrises:

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Nils seemed to be obsessed with me spotting the Atominium so here it is:

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The town of Aalst:

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Indeed nice weather over Belgium today:

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City of Ghent - another place high on my TOVISIT list:

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That quickly downed Leffe soon took its toll so as soon as the seatbelt sign was turned off I head into the loo - here’s a shot for Jonas the Lavatoryphile:

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Cabin view:

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By the time I get back to my seat we are already above the Belgian coastline - Nils is somewhere down there enjoying the rare sunny day (Hi Nils!):

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Directly over Oostende Airport - when will Ryanair start flying there calling it “Rotterdam South”:

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The Channel is quite narrow here - you can see both mainland Europe and Old Blighty:

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Hey, the White Cliffs of Dover:

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The famous Chatham Dockyard can be seen down there:

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Very typical, as soon as we get nearer to London clouds start gathering:

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...which will eventually obstruct all views until mid-Atlantic or so:

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Crossing England:

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Well, I’ve got plenty of reading material with me, so let’s start with those:

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Another random fact about Finland:

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Somewhere over the Irish Sea the service carts reach my row. The choice is “chicken or pasta”. I decide to go with the pasta - it is hard to completely ruin and this is what I get:

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The main course:

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It is on okay Mediterranean-style pasta with taglietelle, tomato sauce, pesto, sundried tomatoes, fetaish cheese and olives. Very nice and tastes good - and I am quite hungry by this point!

On the tray there was also a bottle of water, a small potato salad appetizer (nice), an okay bread roll (not warm, but not icy either) and a very nice oat cookie for dessert.

The super friendly young male (what else) FA is already reaching for a bottle of red wine when he asks me what I’d like to drink so I say “Keep reaching for that bottle, that is exactly what I’d asked for!” - “Oh yes, I read your mind. I know what you like.”. Nice. Also no problems getting a second bottle, hear that KLM:

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Stylish:

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Enjoying good food while starting my 13th transatlantic crossing:

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Not a long way to Tipperary right now, but still a long way to Montreal:

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Coffee, the styrofoam cup is the only thing I dislike, despite the nice maple leaf logo:

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After lunch I lean back and decide to watch the Iron Lady - an excellent but sad movie about the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston Churchill:

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I’m also thrilled to learn they have Molson Canadian onboard - I learned to like this beer a lot during my previous visit to Canada:

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After finishing the movie I decide to get some shuteye which comes easily with some nice tunes from the audio part of the IFE.

Almost two hours later I wake up to see that we have already almost reached Canada:

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Looks like I have found some new land:

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Soon enough the snack service commences. As Marc predicted it is one of these ubiquitous Monty’s wraps - the choice is a veggie or a beef one and since my lunch didn’t consist of any dead animals I just have to go for the beef one which is supposed to come with Ale but actually comes with a Molson Canadian:

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Hello, Canada:

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Miramichi Airport in New Brunswick - the town of Miramichi is somewhat famous in Finland due to a huge Finnish-owned pulp mill there:

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“A lone and lonesome highway, somewhere east of Quebec City”:

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Almost there:

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This town with a huge open pit mine is called Asbestos - I wonder if they have a high occurrence of cancer down there:

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Saint-Hyacinthe, Quebec - gotta love that name:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
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Far too soon (it seems) the captain is on the horn, announcing we are two hundred miles out of Montreal and commencing our descent right now for “a beautiful summer day in Montreal, clear skies and 20 degrees”. Then he makes a further announcement that “our First Officer will complete his captain training with this flight, so from now on he should be spending many fine years as a captain with Air Canada!” - this is followed by limited applause - I of course do applaud for such an achievement!

Soon the views start getting more suburban as we near the city of Montreal. This is the Saint-Hubert airport which served as the primary airport of the city before YUL and is now Canada’s busiest general aviation airport:

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Part of the sprawling suburbs on the east bank of the Saint Lawrence River:

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Pont Champlain:

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We fly towards the south, passing the city mostly over the river which means that the folks on the right side of the plane must have quite amazing sights over the city and the island, my views are somewhat more rural:

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Soon we make a right hand turn to line up with the runway 06R:

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The Saint Lawrence River and the man made seaway are quite impressive - lots of water around:

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Interesting to see that change in color in the middle of the river -

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Coming in quite fast:

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Touchdown is very hard, total flight time was a bit over seven hours. I could’ve easily spent a few hours more in this comfy plane served by this very nice and welcoming crew. Oh wait, I will soon spend another hour once we continue to Toronto...

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One of the overhead bins popped open thanks to the hard landing:

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This cute Jazz livery will soon be gone:

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The route of our approach:

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Taxi to our gate is a bit slow but I don’t really mind - lots of interesting planes to spot.

Wow, exiting - Air Inuit Dash - here’s a challenge for Dash-lover Mr. Palmjet, log a flight on this one:

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Wait until tomorrow:

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One of the new Dash 8 Q400s of Air Canada Express (which is the new name for Jazz):

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Well this got my baffled - seeing a Lithuanian registered Airbus in Canada:

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LY-VEZ has a very interesting and varied history, it belonged to Amsterdam Airlines once upon a time (together with many other carriers) and is now operated by Lithuanian Avion Express, apparently operating a flight for CU right now!

Air France with a Triple Seven instead of the Whalejet this time:

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Looks like Dulles isn’t the only airport with moon buggies:

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We pull to a gate next to another 767 - but isn’t there something familiar about that bird:

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Oh yes, it is C-GDUZ - the bird I originally thought I would fly. It operated the earlier AC833 today:

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My home for the last 8 hours, very comfortable:

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After stopping at the jetway there’s an announcement by one the sole female FA that due to “an incident” all passengers should sit down and wait for some security personnel to come forward. I notice the young Latin American type guy sitting behind dashing forward down the aisle. I didn’t pay much attention to him during the flight - he seemed alternate between sleeping in a near fetal position and watching the IFE during the flight, although on a couple of occasions he kicked my seat back but I gave him The Stare (TM) a few times and he finally learned not to mess with the Finn!

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I hear one Canadian woman on the middle row behind me saying “Oh, it’s him!”, obviously referring to this young dude. The friendliest of the FAs joins the discussion and it turns out they called corporate security on the guy after keeping an eye on him during the flight. He shows us some of the little pieces of paper the guy had been scribbling and passing to the crew during the flight - if you’ve seen the movie A Beautiful Mind you know what I’m talking about - seemingly complete gibberish all over. The woman says the guy had been making funny noises, frowning to himself and acting weirdly most of the time he was awake! Soon I spot a pair of cops (must be the RCMP?) arriving and escorting the guy out of the plane, after which we are free to deboard. The crew reminds us to take all of our stuff with us even if we would be continuing to Toronto (me me!). I have a chat with the woman while walking out, she is continuing to Toronto as well and says she was a bit worried by the man’s behaviour during the flight.

Business class, I don’t really like these herringbone seat arrangements:

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Montreal Trudeau Airport

The international part of YUL looks nice, the layout and the segregated walkway to immigration above the normal pier reminds me of the new terminal at SVO. At immigration there’s even a special lane for connecting passengers which leads to the head of the queue, not that there are too many people here.

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The immigration process itself is quite smooth and I think I even have to call the guy remotely friendly - definitely more so than my last experience at Toronto many years ago.

After immigration it is off to collect the luggage to go through customs where I chuckle a bit at the sight of two flights with the same number sharing the same belt:

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I don’t have time to chuckle for long, though my bag is among the first ones on the belt - very nice to see the Priority tags actually making a difference here!

After walking thru customs where my declaration form is collected by a completely disinterested woman the next stop is to drop the bag off on the connecting baggage belt - a very smooth process:

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Then I’m free to enter Canada - although there’s another plane and a lounge to catch so I just take the escalator up to departures and head for the gates. A rather nice looking checkin hall I must say:

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At security the guys direct me to use the nudiescope - no options are given and I actually didn’t realize what it was until later! Oh well, my first time using it and since I’m a Finn I love being in the nude anyway!

Toronto? Yes yes, I’m trying hard:

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There’s just enough time for a quick visit to the nearest Maple Leaf Lounge:

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Quite impressive drinks selection:

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Hmm, looks like Canada (or Quebec?) has some archaic liquor laws as well:

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...but the two leftmost ones are definitely worth waiting for. As for Coors Light - well, a beer it ain’t but as a refreshing beverage it works:

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I grab a quick snack, the day’s Globe & Mail and something to drink:

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After just ten minutes or so it is already time to head to the gate - our slight delay is cutting the short layover here even shorter.

Over at the gate the familiar shape of a 767 is still standing:

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Upon a closer look I get a nice surprise. Instead of reboarding C-FXCA we are actually boarding C-GDUZ, so it looks like they switched the planes around again here (FXCA ends up departing a bit earlier than us, so maybe it has the earlier pax from BRU onboard). I comment on this to the gate agent but she has that confused look on her face that I get a lot with these kind of remarks...

Well, good for me to catch two different 767s on this flight.

YUL - YYZ
AC833
B767-300 C-GDUZ
Seat 37A
14.20 - 15.23

Air Canada celebrating their 75th birthday (but not this bird, she is “just” 21 years old):

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Most of the passengers are already onboard. This flight also ends up being completely full as far as I can see - plenty of domestic passengers joining us it seems. I’m kinda surprised to see the same crew here as on the flight from BRU, since they spoke impeccable French in addition to (mostly) impeccable English I thought they’d be YUL-based... Anyway after I make my way to my seat on the third last row I see I already have a seatmate, bugger. A young French-speaking guy, doesn’t bother me much but he seems to be very curious about my liberal shooting of photos left and right. Well excuse-moi, but it ain’t illegal outside North Korea!

An announcement is made that we are still waiting for some 15 passengers from Brussels - the same woman who I talked with earlier exclaims loudly “We came from Brussels too but are already here!”. Actually it feels kinda funny sitting on the same seat (albeit on a different plane) seeing some of the same people sitting on the same seats around you but then having some new people scattered around as well. Oh, and I spot the obligatory fellow Finns on this flight, the three seater in the middle on my row is taken by a mother and her two teenager daughters. Whoope-doo, on a flight to Thunder Bay you might expect this but even here, bugger!

West Jet is one of the few operators of the baby 737NG:

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This bird features a bit different cabin interior - there’s some sort of mood lighting here but no personal air vents:

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Finally the lost sheep are found as we pack up, close the doors and push back 20 minutes late for our “1h20mins with 1h in the air” flight down to TO.

Heading for 06R again:

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Air Canada Express taking off before us:

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Take off is rather powerful - this short hop is a mere snack for the 767:

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A giant mall (and I thought Montreal was a poor city like I read from the G&M one day):

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Views of the city are quite amazing:

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Turning 180 degrees to the left:

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...and heading past the airport:

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YUL:

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Nice visibility here, good to follow this 777 (?) landing:

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Visibility is indeed great, Lake Ontario is visible through the haze in the distance. Boys and girls, that’s the US of A on the opposite shore:

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CFB Trenton:

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Service is a drinks run with a small snack. Since beer is charged for on domestic flights I decide to honor PlaneHunter’s memory by performing his famous Ginger Ale test, but it fails miserably as instead of Ginger Ale I get a can of Soda Gingembre instead! At least the taste is okay and the brand is (of course) Canada Dry:

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Those pretzels are probably the most unhealthy things I’ve ever eaten in my life - they taste like fresh butter or lard, certainly not any “diet” variety!

Quite soon after take off I spot an older man (who I think was with us all the way from BRU, although I’m not sure) walking in a rather awkward fashion towards the back galley. A few minutes later a call is made that if there’s a doctor onboard (s)he should report to the back galley for a medical emergency. Wow, I think this is the first time this has happened on all of my flights - this is certainly turning out to be an eventful day! Soon I see a guy walking down the aisle so I guess we had a doctor or at least a medical professional onboard.

In no time at all the the eastern end of the impressive urban sprawl of the Greater Toronto Area comes into view - bear with my amazement here, remember that I come from a country that has less people than this metropolitan area here (despite having a landmass equal to Great Britain...):

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Oshawa Airport:

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At this point I figure out that we are too high for a straight in landing from the east so looks like we’ll do a downwind leg past YYZ then, all the better for views:

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The former Toronto Island Airport or YTZ, nowadays called “Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport” - what a mouthful:

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The famous symbols of Toronto: CBD, CN Tower and the Air Canada Centre are all clearly visible here:

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Downsview Airport - owned and operated by Bombardier Aerospace - this is where Dashes are born:

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An excellent view of Pearson International Airport:

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Busy, as always:

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Heading west:

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...into rural areas:

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I find it quite funny how the urban sprawl abruptly stops at that highway:

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Turning around for our approach - spot our shadow:

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Heading in for a landing towards the east:

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Busy roads:

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This is a cemetery right under the approach path to runway 05 - not so much “Rest in Peace” in here I guess:

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Touchdown after less than an hour in the air:

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Our approach path:

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Taxiing to Terminal 1, Air Canada’s home:

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After we stop and people get up, an announcement is made for passengers to only use the left aisle for disembarking and leaving the right aisle empty for a medical emergency. Sure enough I soon spot the old guy walking up the aisle - he seems very sick and has to stop to rest every few rows. He is also holding is chest so I guess it is some sort of heart trouble here - but a person in such condition shouldn’t really be moving at all, should he? Luckily the emergency medics are soon there to take care of him.

Bye:

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Toronto

T1 is a very nice and impressive facility:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Montreal_to_Toronto_45.jpg

I stop at an ATM to grab some Monopoly money and then head for the luggage hall. Tim Horton’s - you definitely are in Canada now:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Montreal_to_Toronto_46.jpg

The large and very impressive luggage hall:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Montreal_to_Toronto_47.jpg

This time getting the bags to come out takes more time that over in Montreal (or there was no immigration to clear so maybe I just was faster) but once they do my bag is again among the first ones - quite impressive really!

Then I head outside, spend a lot of frustrating time trying to locate a shuttle for my hotel, even after calling them and them saying that it is already at the airport and should come any minute. Have I ever mentioned what a love/hate relationship I have with hotel shuttles? The concept is great, but far too often they ran too irregularly or just not at all and you have to call after them - not exactly what I prefer!

Eventually the friendly Asian guy shows up and whisks me to somewhere in the middle of suburban officeland of Mississauga, to the Marriott Courtyard “Airport Corporate Centre West” - which I scored off Priceline for the meagre amount of 60 EUR:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_3.jpg

Ahh, it is good to be back on the continent of properly sized hotel


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 19604 times:

Ahh, it is good to be back on the continent of properly sized hotel rooms:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_1.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_2.jpg

After a bit of refreshing I head for a quick visit to Toronto. This means taking a slow and long ride on a Mississauga Transit bus to the end of the line of the Toronto subway and then another long ride on the subway to get into the heart of action - total time taken around an hour.

Hmm, there seems to be a lot of Croatian influence here - can stipica tell me more about this:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_4.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_5.jpg

TTC’s slogan is “Ride the Rocket” - a rocket it ain’t but still a cheap way into town:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_6.jpg

And here we are, at Yonge street, the world’s longest street. Last time I stayed at that Courtyard in this picture, where several other a.netters have been known to stay:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_7.jpg

Food:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_8.jpg

And beer:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_13.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_9.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_10.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_11.jpg

My target:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_12.jpg

Unfortunately the long day and jet lag is starting to take its toll so I soon decide to head back to the hotel for a good night’s sleep. Instead of the subway and bus combo I decide to take the GO commuter train to the appropriately titled Dixie station in Mississauga where I can catch a bus home. For this I head to Union Station:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_15.jpg

...only to be told that no, GO trains aren’t running in the evening so I have to take a replacement bus instead:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_16.jpg

This isn’t very nice as the 401 is packed with cars and it takes a long time to get out of town, but soon the traffic calms down. The classic Toronto skyline from the bus:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_17.jpg

Eventually I get off at the completely deserted Dixie station, spend a few confused moments trying to locate the bus stop, manage to do so and catch a ride near to my hotel with Mississauga Transit.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_18.jpg

Suburban Canadiana:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_19.jpg

A gorgeous sundown is a good way to end this long day and report:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_2/Toronto_20.jpg

Conclusions

I know I was supposed to cover one more flight on this part but it is already long as it is so I’ll leave it here.

First, let’s start with that rather horrible ground handling experience by Flightcare at BRU. That whole mess was completely unacceptable in my opinion - I don’t know what kind of hassle they had the previous day upon the cancellation of the original flight, but they had plenty of time to get things ready on that day. They had originally rescheduled the flight at 9.00, so they should’ve asked people to show up early enough (and organized the hotel transport that way for the pax put up in a hotel) so that they would be able to check everyone in before the second batch of passengers arrived for the 10.40 flight. But no, apparently they didn’t manage to do this, plus there was far too little staff there. They knew there would be double the amount of work that morning but somehow I doubt they had a double shift working. It is completely unacceptable for a passenger, let alone one entitled to use the business class facilities to have to wait one and half hours in queues, after first having to wait for another hour before even being admitted to the check in area.

That whole experience left a very bad taste in my mouth, if I can avoid it (and I certainly can!) I won’t be flying AC out of BRU ever again. Not impressed.

Now as for Air Canada - very impressed! First the hard product was perfectly fine - good IFE with plenty of movies and TV shows to watch if that’s your thing (I’m fine with a single movie on a flight of this length) and excellent audio programming, especially the XM Country Music channel which I listened through twice on the flight! The power sockets on the seat might come handy for some folks and the seat itself - good legroom and nice and comfortable. Even with a seatmate on the second leg it was perfectly fine with no discomfort. And all this on a 20+ year old 767 - impressive!

The crew were no less impressive, extremely friendly, chatty, service-minded and just very pleasant, (mostly) young and energetic. The food was good, I definitely prefer those Monty’s Wraps over the thick pizza AA serves as its late flight snack on its transatlantic flights. Plenty of free flowing drinks from the crew as well and finally amazing scenery over Belgium and especially over Canada. This flight will go down as a very fine way to cross the Atlantic. Just don’t do it ex-BRU again!

Oh and quite eventful flights with AC as well, that insane passenger on the first leg and a medical emergency on the second. Luckily nothing bad happened, just a bit of excitement to spice things up!

Part 3 will feature the flights down to Florida with United Express and Jetblue, stay tuned! Happy contrails!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1002 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 19249 times:

Great report as usual!

AC service seemed okay accross the Atlantic, and the visibility on your domestic Canadian flight was amazing!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

You do not have those in Finland?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Brussels Airport or How Not To Handle Check In

What a mess!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
seriously this one makes even Windows to look like the fastest OS on the block.

And they still call it "express check-in"

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Our route today - having a free seat next to you gives you the nice ability to use the PTV next to you as a permanent airshow.

I do always too!


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 19143 times:

Hey there FlyingJesus76, nice report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I have I gather my trash and head downstairs

Now how come you refer to your belongings as trash?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anyway I give her a regretting shake of my head and a small wave and head forward to the Gare du Nord entrance.

Haha, that is interesting. Were the crooks out as well at this early hour?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
sadly the customer before me buys the last croissant so I have to agree to the girl’s suggestion of a pain au chocolat with my Cappuccino instead.

Hmm dont see a reason to be upset for that Pain Au Choco are proper croissants to me, i.e no sugar = faux!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
locate the Air Canada check in row and have a laugh at some poor buggers whose flight has this long queue:

Yes on those days one really learns to appreciate the gift of Star Alliance Gold status, like a gift from God.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
- “No idea, maybe half an hour or so.”
- “Ok, can I use the self service kiosks?”

So why didnt you just wawe your Gold card in her face and demand your right to use the check-in? You know good service is also about being active as the customer, hence why I see no shame in openly complaining to staffmembers if theyre doing a terrible job. E.g at restaurants, etc.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Eventually I get to it, and have the privilege of using the world’s slowest check in application - seriously this one makes even Windows to look like the fastest OS on the block.

It wasnt very slow when I used it a few months ago...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I say that those things are mostly useless as on most airports they just don’t honor them at all,

Really that's a bold statement. But then again you might have been lucky with the summer temps working at luggage handling, who unlike their senior colleagues actually honour the *Priority tags, and don't steal your *G luggage tags.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So in I go. Indeed not much time here, but it looks like quite a nice lounge with excellent apron views.

Must say the Sunrise lounge looked much nicer than the crappy Business Lounge.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(bugger, no beep signaling an upgrade) I walk directly onboard.

C'mon! You pay a filthy cheap fueldump fare and still expect an upgrade?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but apart from that it is all males, mostly young and mostly very friendly.

I must say that in my opinion men are best suited for jobs in the service industry. Male friendlyness is always genuine, as opposed to women who have the ability to play faux (like fake orgasms for instance)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
here’s a shot for Jonas the Lavatoryphile:

Looks like loo has been around since the 80s, by judging the colors.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite impressive drinks selection:

Now that looks like a proper lounge, I see a bottle of Bailey's!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Last time I stayed at that Courtyard in this picture, where several other a.netters have been known to stay:

Name anyone other than Brendan?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
...only to be told that no, GO trains aren’t running in the evening so I have to take a replacement bus instead:

Much like VR at home?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
especially the XM Country Music channel which I listened through twice on the flight!

Are you aspiring to be an american?

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineIdeekay From Switzerland, joined Jun 2012, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 19096 times:

Hey FlyingFinn,

It was a pleasure to read this TR, it was very long but interesting!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
- %u201CToronto%u201D
- %u201CToday or yesterday?%u201D
Now this was a completely unexpected question. I%u2019ve been known to lose all sense of time when doing something deeply engrossing like drinking, writing these trip reports or planning a new exciting itinerary but right now I%u2019m pretty certain I am not missing a day and my drinking the previous night was quite moderate.
- %u201CErr... today?%u201D
- %u201CCheck in is not open for you yet. These are people from yesterday%u2019s flight! Go away!%u201D

First I thought too, what a weird question but then when I've saw what the problem was I can understand it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
David and Goliath

How many times has a Dash 8Q-400 place in a 777?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Personal %u201Cgaspers%u201D as our Dutch friends like to call them - a very welcome feature not found on many widebody planes:

The air-condition and the lamps look a bit old but as I see the most part of the cabin looks quite fresh.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The legroom is fine:

I see trendy shoes!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Almost two hours later I wake up to see that we have already almost reached Canada:

What happend to greenland? Is there now yellow snow?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Another random fact about Finland:

At the morning one, in the afternoon one and in the evening/night one!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Air France with a Triple Seven instead of the Whalejet this time:

If I'm honest the 777 looks better!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Looks like Dulles isn%u2019t the only airport with moon buggies:

Are these buses that dock right to the airplane and drive the passengers to the gate?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My home for the last 8 hours, very comfortable:

Big window, confy seat and TV with USB-port, very nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, good for me to catch two different 767s on this flight

2 new registrations on (nearly) one flight!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A few minutes later a call is made that if there%u2019s a doctor onboard (s)he should report to the back galley for a medical emergency. Wow, I think this is the first time this has happened on all of my flights - this is certainly turning out to be an eventful day! Soon I see a guy walking down the aisle so I guess we had a doctor or at least a medical professional onboard.

You know what happend to him?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A gorgeous sundown is a good way to end this long day and report:

Yes it is!  

This TR, I think was one of the best TR's you wrote. Very detailed (as always or normal) and as I can see you enjoyed your rides!

Looking forward for Part 3!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 8 hours ago) and read 19018 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Very nice to see your report on AC on this part of your trip to North America!

Sounds like a very bad experience checking in with AC at BRU.....Like you said they should have handled those passengers earlier in the morning so that they were ready for the current day passengers later.

Flight seems nice although the pasta doesn't look good at all (way less appetizing than my AZ dinner) but good that it tasted okay.

The XM system is very good and extra nice to have the USB port and the plug in the seat as well. I remember reading from PlaneHunter that AC had some problems with the system early on but it seems to be working fine now.

Toronto looks nice and I should really go there some day (at least to the same location you went   ) Perhaps later this year.

Looking forward to the rest of this series!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 18820 times:

Very nice report as usual!

Sorry to read about the ground handling at BRU and it is unfortunate that they don't have any contingency plan regarding lengthy delays. There should be a completely separate check-in area set up for those passengers supposed to fly the day before. The whole thing is just poorly planned.

I am glad that you like Air Canada service but can't help notice that AC has cut back on the meal. Compared to the Air Transat meal posted a few days, they look pretty similar but AC is a full service airline, while AIr Transat is a tourist airline leaning towards the LCC. I am surprised that a proper dessert is not served - only a cookie. But I guess times have changed. Of course the alcohol offering is much more generous with AC.

Those pretzels are pretty typical and supposed to be healthier than the peanuts. Right? But I prefer Westjet's crispers offering though!

Thanks again and look forward to the rest of your trip reports!

Carfield


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3549 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 18776 times:

Very nice report. The hotel you stayed in is a 2-3 minute walk from a great aviation store called "Aviation World". They have a great selection. As for the GO Trains, they are specifically for commuting schedules (they run towards downtown in the mornings and then away from downtown in the evening). I'm not sure what time you wanted to take one but they should have been running towards Mississauga when you wanted to (the last one leaves Union Station around 7-8pm I am guessing).


Support the beer and soda can industry, recycle old airplanes!
User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 18407 times:

Hey FF,

excellent as usual!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

Yes, we could do with something similar here in the UK. Though I bet forcing train companies to always use the same platform each day could be... interesting.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
have a laugh at some poor buggers whose flight has this long queue:

Did you get egg on your face?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
world’s slowest check in application - seriously this one makes even Windows to look like the fastest OS on the block.

Must be running Windows - I'm sure most SSKs run Linux under the hood though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No, I most certainly am not very “appy” right now:

A good jeux de mots for a non-native English country!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hey, the White Cliffs of Dover:

I'll be there next week - well, under them anyway...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ubiquitous Monty’s wraps

I've seen plenty in reports but have yet to be given one.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Well, good for me to catch two different 767s on this flight.

Lucky for you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Toronto

A city I'd love to visit someday, my only experience of Canada was a weekend in Montreal, when I visited my sister who was on a university exchange in upsate Massachussetts.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
And beer:

The pic below that one, interesting Fathers' Day idea!

As always, looking forward to the next part!

Thanks

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1746 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17534 times:
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Hi FlyingFinn76-er!

What a super-duper-nice-o report you have here my friend! Gorgeous pics all the way from Brussels to Toronto; apart form the ground experience in BRU, luck was on your side today. And what a nice machine this 767 is indeed  
Of course I have some minor commentary for you, here goes:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but no, I actually had no idea the girls would be already out there “on duty” before eight on a weekday morning!.

These (lovely) girls work 24/7 my friend   I feel like you really HAD to go through that street. Perhaps you thought you had a lesser chance of being mugged with all those witnesses around?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anyway I give her a regretting shake of my head and a small wave and head forward to the Gare du Nord entrance.

Too bad Petteri, next time, ask me, I have references    What did you say ‘flight to catch’?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe

You mean: ‘detailed’? Are they not so detailed in your country?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
- “Today or yesterday?”

Looking back now, I think you will probably laugh at this, no?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This means there will be *two* AC833s today

To confuse the ‘occasional’ traveler some more!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another DHL depot specially dedicated to AYA333

Sorry, this one is ‘out of order’ and has moved to Leipzig.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So I quickly buy a horribly overpriced bottle of water from “Grab’n’go”

Nooooo! No the Grab-n-go! The cheapest water comes from the vending machines. Do I sound like a certain colleague a.netter 

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Such a beautiful bird. It might not have the awesome power, size and technology of its bigger sister, the triple seven, but a 767 is still a lovely plane.

A plane pur-sang. Or retro, or whatever... If only they’d change that horrible lightblue to some more ‘decent’ colour...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
pax from America - you know, loud, chatty and all about “me, myself and I”

Better prepare for that, you’re going to the US of A after all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(oh, and Nils, when are you going to do one of those Tyrolean Dash operating for SN flights - I want to read a report about them?

I don’t know. Nothing is planned in that direction yet. There are more interesting things to look out for as you may well know  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
part of the motorways leading into Brussels which Nils always talks in horror about

Not so much in horror, as I don’t have to pass there on a regularly basis. It is obvious you overflew that section in off-peak traffic hours.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
s seemed to be obsessed with me spotting the Atominium so here it is

I’m not obsessed with the Atomium at all. I just think it is a nice and exotic structure that rightfully so deserves some attention! So if you ever fancy coming to Brussels again: beer, mussels and the Atomium it is. It has a nice rooftop with a view restaurant btw!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nils is somewhere down there enjoying the rare sunny day (Hi Nils!)

I really was  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Directly over Oostende Airport - when will Ryanair start flying there calling it “Rotterdam South”:

Actually Ryanair has served OST for a short period in time some years ago, flying OST-STN.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coffee, the styrofoam cup is the only thing I dislike, despite the nice maple leaf logo

Lovely spoon!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Air Canada Express

Why does every itself respecting airline (besides IB  ) has their subsidiary named ‘*** Express’? Sure ‘Jazz’ sounds much better!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Business class, I don’t really like these herringbone seat arrangements

Me neither, and that has nothing to do with the fact that it relates to a certain species in the animal kingdom, which I happen to dislike.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well excuse-moi, but it ain’t illegal outside North Korea!

You didn’t point out that you were ‘a man on a mission’?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
An excellent view of Pearson International Airport

Wow, looks mighty impressive!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is a cemetery right under the approach path to runway 05

A resting place maybe for our deceased Canadian a.netters?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
amazing scenery over Belgium

You have me lol here!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17486 times:

Nice report P.!

Seems like AC did a good job on this sector. I flew LIM-YYZ on their 767 (that flight is of similar length) and they did a truly great job.

Btw, that plane landing in YUL was definitely a LX 330 I would say.

Cheers, Sveinn



Flights flown: 284 - Airlines: 40 - Airports: 65 - Next flights: BOS-EWR-PBI-TPA/SFB-KEF
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27122 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17399 times:

Hey P great report  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I see something which I assumed was a display doll on a shop window and get a shock since she is waving for me to get inside - whoah, bright and early these girls (or maybe they are just late, come to think of it)!

Haha window shopping again huh  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
These are people from yesterday’s flight! Go away!”

WOW didnt know there were any ex SABENA ground staff still around lol...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The giver and the taker:

You turned top these days P   LMAO .... sorry couldnt resist ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
an excellent but sad movie about the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston Churchill:

Indeed I want to see this movie but didnt get round to it yet.

Glad to see AC were decent . I loved my SJU-YYZ in J with them back in December. I love Toronto and want to go back . The Courtyard is a great place to stay .

Looking forward to the next part .

Philip  


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17248 times:

Hi FF

Great report!

Firstly, what a nightmare in BRU. From seeing those pics, I could feel your frustration and I was not even there. Quite unacceptable handling of the situation - I hope the handlers were given lots of feedback on how NOT to do that again.

Great day for flying as well. Typical that as soon as you cross into UK airspace it gets cloudy - no surprises there for sure!

Quote:
This is the Saint-Hubert airport which served as the primary airport of the city before YUL and is now Canada’s busiest general aviation airport:

I'll be there in September commencing a crazy day trip. There is one airline operating intra Quebec flights out of that airport.

Quote:
Wow, exiting - Air Inuit Dash - here’s a challenge for Dash-lover Mr. Palmjet, log a flight on this one

I wish. I tried all kinds of things to book something with Air Inuit but sadly, their fares are **extortionate**. I also wrote to them for some suggestions and they never bothered to even acknowledge my email so I just gave up in the end. Clearly they have enough business and don't need mine. I've found something else just as fun, and involves a Dash 8 -100 along with an assortment of other small prop jets.

I love Toronto too - it's one of my favourite cities in North America for sure. Thanks for the pics - arrival into YYZ looked good too. Great pics of the downtown area. I am doing a day trip down there from YUL on Porter in Sept so it will be nice to be back there again, even if it's only for a few hours.

Your experience on AC mirrored mine. I know many people are quick to complain about them, but I have only experienced pleasant on time flights with Air Canada in the past. I am looking forward to flying with them again in September ex LHR to see how they are doing.

Looking forward to the next instalment!

Cheers Palmjet



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinekurt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16927 times:

Nice report, FF76! We flew on the AC 763 back in '09 YYZ-SCL-EZE-SCL-YYZ and enjoyed it a lot. Just a nice, comfortable aircraft that is not too big, not too small. BRU looks like a nightmare the day you flew, though!

User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16847 times:

Hi guys, good to see so many comments up. Thank you, all of them are greatly appreciated!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 3):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:
You do not have those in Finland?
Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
You mean: ‘detailed’? Are they not so detailed in your country?

Well not really at least with that many trains - most of the stations here don't have many daily trains, they make for boring reading.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Now how come you refer to your belongings as trash?

Jonas, my reports are like Tarantino movies - they contain a lot more or less hidden obscure references to pop culture and other things. Trash refers to a certain great trip report writer whose work I've always admired a lot. Spot them all and earn a cookie as a prize!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Haha, that is interesting. Were the crooks out as well at this early hour?

There are no crooks there. Well some more or less drunken Moroccans on the streets though.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Yes on those days one really learns to appreciate the gift of Star Alliance Gold status, like a gift from God.

Jonas, there is no god. Plus that is quite a stupid thing to say anyway. It is not a gift, it is something you can earn with either hard work or by spending lots of money. And didn't help much on this occasion.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
So why didnt you just wawe your Gold card in her face and demand your right to use the check-in?

No, I'm not as DYKWIA as you. That would be extremely rude and stupid. I despise such behavior.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
It wasnt very slow when I used it a few months ago...

Maybe the SAS app is much faster then.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Really that's a bold statement. But then again you might have been lucky with the summer temps working at luggage handling, who unlike their senior colleagues actually honour the *Priority tags, and don't steal your *G luggage tags.

What are you talking about? On most occasions when I'd had them, priority tags have made no difference whatsoever. Sure as hell they've never ever worked at HEL.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
C'mon! You pay a filthy cheap fueldump fare and still expect an upgrade?

No, I didn't expect anything. But you can always dream.

At least I don't attach other people's gold tags to my carry on luggage and hope for an upgrade that way.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
I must say that in my opinion men are best suited for jobs in the service industry. Male friendlyness is always genuine, as opposed to women who have the ability to play faux (like fake orgasms for instance)

What the hell are you talking about? That is pure bullshit. You have a lot of experience with fake orgasms?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Looks like loo has been around since the 80s, by judging the colors.

Considering the plane was delivered to AC early in 1990 I guess this statement is remotely true as it must've been build during 1989 then.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Last time I stayed at that Courtyard in this picture, where several other a.netters have been known to stay:
Name anyone other than Brendan?

Phil. What happened to your obsessive a.net members status registry?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Much like VR at home?

No, completely unlike VR.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 5):
I see trendy shoes!  

Do you? I see rather comfortable and very cheap shoes, although they gave me nasty blisters after walking almost 15 kilometers around DC...

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 5):
Another random fact about Finland:
At the morning one, in the afternoon one and in the evening/night one!

More, during a normal work day you drink at least five cups. Or those aren't cups, more like pints.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 5):
Are these buses that dock right to the airplane and drive the passengers to the gate?

Yes, that's it.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 5):
You know what happend to him?

No idea, as I mentioned the emergency medics came to pick him up.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 5):
This TR, I think was one of the best TR's you wrote. Very detailed (as always or normal) and as I can see you enjoyed your rides!

Thanks! I certainly liked those flights and enjoyed myself and of course it does show in the report as well.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Flight seems nice although the pasta doesn't look good at all (way less appetizing than my AZ dinner) but good that it tasted okay.

Yeah, I guess the presentation could be a bit better - looked like it was already eaten once but it's the taste that counts. Then again I was really hungry at that point anyway.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
on but it seems to be working fine now.

I didn't have any issues with it.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Toronto looks nice and I should really go there some day (at least to the same location you went &nbsp Wink Perhaps later this year.

Yes, it is an amazing city. You should spend some time there. Maybe you can catch a triple seven there - not sure if AC uses any on flights to YVR.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 7):
There should be a completely separate check-in area set up for those passengers supposed to fly the day before. The whole thing is just poorly planned.

My thoughts exactly!

Quoting Carfield (Reply 7):
I am surprised that a proper dessert is not served - only a cookie. But I guess times have changed.

Well I'm not that much of a dessert person, that cookie and coffee was just right for me.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
The hotel you stayed in is a 2-3 minute walk from a great aviation store called "Aviation World".

Really? I had no idea - the whole area looked like there wasn't much shopping around, just office blocks and a couple of hotels.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
I'm not sure what time you wanted to take one but they should have been running towards Mississauga when you wanted to (the last one leaves Union Station around 7-8pm I am guessing).

I left Union Station at the 8.20 PM bus and a girl there told me there was no train service to Dixie anymore. I guess the other track to Longreach (sp) and further towards Hamilton might've had some trains but I liked the name Dixie so much that I just had to go there  
Quoting signol (Reply 9):
have a laugh at some poor buggers whose flight has this long queue:
Did you get egg on your face?

No, it wasn't LOL., just L  
Quoting signol (Reply 9):
Hey, the White Cliffs of Dover:
I'll be there next week - well, under them anyway...

Taking the train to France, are you?

Quoting signol (Reply 9):
A city I'd love to visit someday, my only experience of Canada was a weekend in Montreal, when I visited my sister who was on a university exchange in upsate Massachussetts.

Oh yes, you should definitely do it! It is quite amazing. I've never been to Montreal proper, just a couple of times to the airport but people say that Toronto and Montreal are two completely different cities so both are worth a visit.

Quoting signol (Reply 9):
The pic below that one, interesting Fathers' Day idea!

Well I decided not to comment on it...  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Of course I have some minor commentary for you, here goes:

"Minor"? Whoa, that's a bit of an understatement!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
These (lovely) girls work 24/7 my friend   I feel like you really HAD to go through that street.

Actually it was an accident. I remembered they didn't work on the first street right next to the railroad but one street further up but apparently this wasn't the case!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Too bad Petteri, next time, ask me, I have references    What did you say ‘flight to catch’?

You have a frequent ... errr "customer" card?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Sorry, this one is ‘out of order’ and has moved to Leipzig.

Those pesky Germans - always stealing your jobs and mussels!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Nooooo! No the Grab-n-go! The cheapest water comes from the vending machines. Do I sound like a certain colleague a.netter 

Well nothing bad about that - I know by heart the cheapest places to buy water and various other stuff at HEL for example.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
A plane pur-sang. Or retro, or whatever... If only they’d change that horrible lightblue to some more ‘decent’ colour...

You really think so? I like that color and livery - it is great! Looks best on the widebodies.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Actually Ryanair has served OST for a short period in time some years ago, flying OST-STN.

Really - I had no idea!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Lovely spoon!

Well it is a cocktail stick rather than a spoon.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Why does every itself respecting airline (besides IB &nbsp Wink has their subsidiary named ‘*** Express’? Sure ‘Jazz’ sounds much better!

Union rules? Just like the reason for having a subsidiary in the first place.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 11):
Seems like AC did a good job on this sector. I flew LIM-YYZ on their 767 (that flight is of similar length) and they did a truly great job.

Oh yes, they were quite impeccable. A great, great flight.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 11):
Btw, that plane landing in YUL was definitely a LX 330 I would say.

Could be - I was looking at the red tail and thinking about a BA triple seven...

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
WOW didnt know there were any ex SABENA ground staff still around lol...

Well I guess they need to work somewhere  .

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Glad to see AC were decent . I loved my SJU-YYZ in J with them back in December. I love Toronto and want to go back . The Courtyard is a great place to stay .

Oh yes, I remember that report - looked very nice. And yes, that Courtyard is a nice hotel and in a very good location.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 13):
I'll be there in September commencing a crazy day trip. There is one airline operating intra Quebec flights out of that airport.

Oh really? Congratulations for finding that - I had no, absolutely no idea!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 13):
I am doing a day trip down there from YUL on Porter in Sept so it will be nice to be back there again, even if it's only for a few hours.

That sounds very interesting as well. I like the Porter livery (saw a few of those) with that cute raccoon logo on the tail! Take many pictures for us, Marc told me the approach is amazing.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 13):
I am looking forward to flying with them again in September ex LHR to see how they are doing.

You were taking the A319 to St. John's if I remember correctly?


User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1295 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16826 times:
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Hey FlyinFinn,

Nice to see another report on AC, and yet another one on Toronto!! I apologise for getting very carried away with my responses lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, I am well aware this is the red light district of Brussels but no, I actually had no idea the girls would be already out there “on duty” before eight on a weekday morning!. Yes, I’m walking down this street, and then happen to glance up to a display window. I see something which I assumed was a display doll on a shop window and get a shock since she is waving for me to get inside - whoah, bright and early these girls (or maybe they are just late, come to think of it)!

Did you chose to stay here due to the really cheap prices, like the reason Jonas did?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

Luckily I saw the electronic display boards on the platform, or else I would have thought these were the only "up to date" displays available lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I take the escalator two levels up to the check in, locate the Air Canada check in row and have a laugh at some poor buggers whose flight has this long queue:
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh well, like they told in that “holy” fairy tale book - do to others what you wish upon yourself. Yes, you guessed it - the next moment I realize that this is the check in queue for *my* flight!

Karma! What goes around comes around lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ever heard of Scandinavian characters which certainly can wreak all kinds of havoc if they make their way into CRS systems

Love all those funky names and scripts that make up IKEA products!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And then it starts. The wait. The horrible, horrible, long wait.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
All in all it takes me an hour and a quarter (YES, 1h15mins. This is completely unacceptable.)

You've never stood in an EY or EK check in line, where oversized baggages and whole family of us folk wait to check in lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The woman is quite friendly but appears to be under a lot of stress.

Well considering the situation she was under, at least she was friendly

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So I quickly buy a horribly overpriced bottle of water from “Grab’n’go” (thought about just grabbing it and going like their name suggests but somehow that didn’t seem right)

Love your sense of humor!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Personal “gaspers” as our Dutch friends like to call them - a very welcome feature not found on many widebody planes:

The 777s don't have these. I really enjoyed having that draft of cool air on my face for the whole duration of a flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The captain makes a welcome speech, announces our flight time “gate to gate” as 7h36mins with 7h6mins “in the air” (why is is always the Americans and Canadians who are so exact with these times?).

Well because it is. Not a minute more, not a minute less...As you travelled with the GO you probably realise they left on time, and if it was a minute or two late, sighs were guaranteed.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And here’s Gare du Nord surrounded by Crook Highrises:

Is it really inhabited by crooks, again as Jonas has indicated in past reports?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Very typical, as soon as we get nearer to London clouds start gathering:

Hilarious

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The super friendly young male (what else) FA is already reaching for a bottle of red wine when he asks me what I’d like to drink so I say “Keep reaching for that bottle, that is exactly what I’d asked for!” - “Oh yes, I read your mind. I know what you like.”. Nice.

Very proactive approach of the FA! Nice indeed

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coffee, the styrofoam cup is the only thing I dislike, despite the nice maple leaf logo:

I love that stick stirrer.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like I have found some new land:

Again love you sense of humor

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
This cute Jazz livery will soon be gone:

Oh my, that explains why some of these little buggers have gone all blue all of a sudden lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
One of the new Dash 8 Q400s of Air Canada Express (which is the new name for Jazz):

See lots of these landing at YYZ....A lot better than the little buggers mentioned earlier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
I gave him The Stare (TM) a few times and he finally learned not to mess with the Finn!

Oh do so share more about this. I could sure use The Stare (TM) when I don't get that last seat on the aircraft, something I definitely try to aim for when checking in online.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
At security the guys direct me to use the nudiescope - no options are given and I actually didn’t realize what it was until later! Oh well, my first time using it and since I’m a Finn I love being in the nude anyway!

Is that what Finns are noted for....nudity???

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Service is a drinks run with a small snack. Since beer is charged for on domestic flights I decide to honor PlaneHunter’s memory by performing his famous Ginger Ale test, but it fails miserably as instead of Ginger Ale I get a can of Soda Gingembre instead! At least the taste is okay and the brand is (of course) Canada Dry:

Yes the trade mark PH onboard drink status!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
In no time at all the the eastern end of the impressive urban sprawl of the Greater Toronto Area comes into view - bear with my amazement here, remember that I come from a country that has less people than this metropolitan area here (despite having a landmass equal to Great Britain...):

That was still the Eastern suburbs, population less than 120,000...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
At this point I figure out that we are too high for a straight in landing from the east so looks like we’ll do a downwind leg past YYZ then, all the better for views:

You were now over the city of Toronto and it's suburbs ...around 2 million and more

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
CBD,

More lovingly known as Downtown Toronto.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Heading west:

And here you are now over my hometown, Mississauga lol....Population around +700,000!!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
...into rural areas:

Well land areas just waiting to be developed...Won't be this way for too long.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):

I find it quite funny how the urban sprawl abruptly stops at that highway:

That is the border of Mississauga and Oakville. The latter a much smaller suburb in comparison

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Tim Horton’s - you definitely are in Canada now:

Yup, nothing like a Timmy's to make you feel you are back in Canada.....Hey they've even opened a Tim Horton's in Dubai!!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Eventually the friendly Asian guy shows up and whisks me to somewhere in the middle of suburban officeland of Mississauga, to the Marriott Courtyard “Airport Corporate Centre West”

I've passed that hotel many times when taking the bus from the airport. Nice to see the inside of it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
This means taking a slow and long ride on a Mississauga Transit bus to the end of the line of the Toronto subway and then another long ride on the subway to get into the heart of action - total time taken around an hour.

Mississauga Transit now has tons of Express buses too, just that the route you were on did not have one. Next time head West instead of East to Mississauga Square One and you'll find some mall action if that is what you are into lol.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Instead of the subway and bus combo I decide to take the GO commuter train to the appropriately titled Dixie station in Mississauga where I can catch a bus home. For this I head to Union Station:
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
...only to be told that no, GO trains aren’t running in the evening so I have to take a replacement bus instead:
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Eventually I get off at the completely deserted Dixie station, spend a few confused moments trying to locate the bus stop, manage to do so and catch a ride near to my hotel with Mississauga Transit.

Too bad you did not get to ride the GO trains. Much better than the TTC subway, though they only run during peak work hours east to the city in the mornings, and west back to Mississauga in the evenings. I have no idea how you managed to find your way to the bus stop, as for someone not used to it that can be quite confusing indeed. Well at least you travelled on three of the most popular transit systems in Ontario. And yes Mississauga Transit is the most busiest GTA transit system after the TTC and GO transit.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Suburban Canadiana:

Very misleading pic lol...like I said head West next time to see how busy the rest of Suburban Canadiana is!!!


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1221 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16823 times:

I find the AC cookies for desert an "irritation" and their tiny snack for an 8 hour + flight insufficient. They also lost my suitcase and never found it again.

User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 426 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16812 times:

Hi P. !
again happy me ... this BRU crook-lend adventure is amusing ... I have a special interest for AC so nice to see you are happy flyer ... I've never flown with them and need to visit this croatian community so good opportunity hehehhe...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Hmm, there seems to be a lot of Croatian influence here - can stipica tell me more about this:

the first picture shows a football hysteria that is present in the homeland and diaspora ... definitely Croatia played that day
the second image shows the talent of the Croatian diaspora entrepreneurship and the lack of talent for graphic design heheheh ... a large number of Croats were forced to leave over the course of time for economic or political reasons starts from the 15th and 16th centuries ( ottoman threat - to other areas of the Habsburg Empire today strong communities in Austria and Hungary ) than from the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century (economic reasons - North America majority in the USA less in Canada , Chile and Argentina and South Africa) ... A further, larger wave of emigration, this time for political reasons, took place after WWII both collaborators regime and apolitical refugees who did not want to live under a communist regime ( Australia, Canada , New Zealand ) ... than Yu-emigrants workers ( EU ) ...then last large wave occurred during and after the Homeland War ( EU ,Canada,Australia ) ...there are around 4 million Croats living inside Croatia and up to 4.5 million throughout the rest of the world ... some very successful and now investing like Andrónico Luksic family - Luksic Group or Anthony Maglica - Maglite or Mike Grgich -Grgich Hills Estate or some are nameless and living under the bridge ... c'est la vie ... Canadian community is very politically influential although not large ( about 100 000 ) and from 2008 Canada abolished visas for Cro-citizens ... dash 8-q400 for OU , challenger 605 for government and Canadair CL-215 for military is not a coincidence ... briefly is not my strong point hehhehhe stipica  



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16423 times:

Hey Petteri,

Very enjoyable report. For me it's always nice to read TRs about AC, an airline that I still have to fly but one that has been fascinating me for a while now. Once upon a time I had booked a flight on them but the infamous Chicago winter prevented me from flying with them. It still haunts me...

When I saw the banner of your report and saw the "Oh (Air)..." part I thought that you had secretly flown to O'Hare and didn't tell me...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coffee, the styrofoam cup is the only thing I dislike, despite the nice maple leaf logo:

How cute. I like how those Canadians like to put a maple leaf pretty much everywhere they can.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like I have found some new land:

Isn't it interesting that the way "Newfoundland" is pronounced (especially by the locals) makes it sound like "New Finland"?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After stopping at the jetway there’s an announcement by one the sole female FA that due to “an incident” all passengers should sit down and wait for some security personnel to come forward

It reminds me of an incident on LX, where we had to wait for the police to enter the aircraft after landing (we had just arrived at ZRH from ORD) to arrest some wacko who had gone nuts during the flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At immigration there’s even a special lane for connecting passengers which leads to the head of the queue,

How clever. I wish more airports had such a separate line. It would make life so much easier for those connecting.


I'm sorry to hear about the chaos in BRU. As I have mentioned multiple times in the past, there hasn't been a single time that I passed through Brussels (by train or airplane) without some weird stuff happening. Kinda weird given that Belgium is such a relatively organized place. Just a coincidence I'm sure but a recurrent one for some reason...

Looking forward to the next few segments!

WideBodyroga



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User currently offlineLucky727 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15991 times:

Hi FF76  

Sounds like a (standard) good experience with AC, in the air - unfortunately, most people fault them, rightly so, for their performance on the ground, which is where they fall apart, particularly during disruptions such as the cancelled flight they had trouble catching up on.

Otherwise, I find their service is overall pretty good - and getting a pair of seats to oneself on the 767 is a stroke of luck and very comfortable! My last longhaul flight with them YYZ-LHR (the daytime eastbound) I had the same luck and loved it. Those 767s may be 20+ yrs old, but post-XM are just fine  

Glad you had fun in my hometown, which oddly keeps showing up more & more in TRs, lately (?) - looking forward to your next installment.

L727

p.s. the "giver vs. taker" comment, as OA260 pointed out is *hilarious*, if that's what you meant... and was most likely lost on most people - lol!



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User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 15930 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76,

Great read, AC are no doubt one of the best carriers to cross the Atlantic they seem to have a lot more class compared to my experience with Zoom back in the day.
I have a rough plan for Canada which involves becoming a truck driver, and trucking Canada for a year! Hope those 767's are still around in 5 years time!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Enjoying good food while starting my 13th transatlantic crossing:

That large Island just north of your position is my summer holiday spot, it involves a 7 hour journey sadly by road. Great spot to see the transatlantic traffic arrive and depart into Irish eyes!

I look forward to your next reports, happy flying!



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 15819 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 15):
Maybe you can catch a triple seven there - not sure if AC uses any on flights to YVR.

I flewq YYZ-LHR with AC 77W but only transferred in YYZ so no visit t to the city. Yes, AC does fly a 777 YYZ-YVR and perhaps even YYZ-YUL as well. I also flew SYD-YVr on AC 77L so already have two AC 777 flights but may add more although not going out of my way to add one more. Trip reports posted for both flights a while back.

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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 15706 times:

Another interesting instalment from your series.

I found the security at BRU quite slow too and i was there during one of the quiet periods - so hardly sup rising it took a while for you to get through.

Certainly was an eventful couple of flights for you!

Looking forward to the next part!



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 698 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 15661 times:

Hi P.,

great report again and a very entertaining read.

Looks like you had two quite action-packed flights there. Good to read about your experience with AC, I have never tried them but always wanted to, somehow I like their livery with that greenish color on the fuselage. Service seemed to be great. But of course that ground handling in BRU was a big mess.

Finally some really nice pictures, looks like you were lucky with the clear weather. Interesting to see the difference between Europe (crowded cities) and Canada (vast urban areas).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I see something which I assumed was a display doll on a shop window and get a shock since she is waving for me to get inside

... well, you could have walked on the other side of the street   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, of course it doesn’t match - ever heard of Scandinavian characters which certainly can wreak all kinds of havoc if they make their way into CRS systems - just like pretty much any character outside the 7-bit original ASCII range

Oh, terrible, sometimes hard to believe that there are still so many problems with special characters in the 21. century.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It might still around ten thirty in the morning but I’ll have my Leffe, no matter what.

Nice, after a Leffe the world looks much brighter for sure. Good that you insisted to get your lounge visit, even though it was only a short one.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The giver and the taker:

  ... Although there should have been an LH plane as well next to the Finnair one ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Business class, I don’t really like these herringbone seat arrangements:

Don't like them either, well, I never sat in one of those, but I seems quite difficult to have a look out of the window.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 15570 times:

Excellent report, I especially enjoyed your pictures of the city of Toronto, but a minor correction, you did not have the Air Canada Centre but the Roger's Centre (Sky Dome). Billy Bishop Airport is still referred to as the Island airport by most of the area residents.


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User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 26, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 15516 times:
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Great report FF, always interesting to see someone else's trip to the same place I was quite recently.
BRU looked like quite a mess and I don't think I would have coped with the crowds as well as you.

Air Canada does look like they offer a decent product across the Atlantic, I can imagine they are among the highest ranking of the North American carriers for transatlantic Y if not the highest.

Quite interesting that they changed your plane at YUL however if it helps add to your log book, wheres the harm in that.

I look forward to reading your next report,

Kev.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 27, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15312 times:

Hi P.

What an excellent and comprehensive TR again !!!

Lucky you, with the weather: both Belgium and Canada were 'to follow on the map'...also to be able to fly 2 different 767's for the price of 1  

What is that airport in Belgium, just before OST ?

Me thinks, you were able to 'shoot' the Turkish 777 landing at YUL, don't you think ?

Looking forward to toyr next installment into the US...

Cheers,

MH017/Pieter...



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 28, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15043 times:

That was a really great report FlyingFinn76! Very enjoyable. Thanks a lot for taking the time to write it and for sharing the pics.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

LOL. You clearly have not been on an AR flight. Joking aside, a recent TR dealt with a US flight to LHR? and it seemed that the flight was surprisingly pleasant.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I thought Montreal was a poor city

I do not think that would be a reasonable estimation. In which way did you think it was poor?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
erforming his famous Ginger Ale test, but it fails miserably as instead of Ginger Ale I get a can of Soda Gingembre instead!

LOL. And wouldn't that be the same???



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5173 posts, RR: 55
Reply 29, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14917 times:

Hey, P.,

great stuff again, nothing else expected by the way.

No, these situation at BRU is definitely not what I like. Sounds horrible to spend the precious lounge time in the queues.
Anyway AC looks like really good biz.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well the girl is too hot to be annoyed by that anyway (wow, this is starting to sound like one of Markus’ reports).

How comes that I like it this way?.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

The gate is right below the lounge which is nice. There are no queues anymore - another plus point for boarding late so after getting my boarding pass scanned (bugger, no beep signaling an upgrade) I walk directly onboard.

Count me in here. I know someone not that far away who always have a special thing with the SEN guys running late, ahem, like me often. Late boarding, you know!.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1107 posts, RR: 8
Reply 30, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14821 times:

Thanks for this report, I like your writing style.

Sounds like a poor performance from Air Canada on the ground in BRU. Reminds me of my UA experience a few years back out of TPA.

Once in the air, however, it looks like AC did well. They seam to offer a better product than many U.S. carriers (DL 767s).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At least she tags my bag with a priority tag, I say that those things are mostly useless as on most airports they just don’t honor them at all, but she insists that it is part of the service.

Ha! Pretty sure these things make your bags come out last.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

Without a doubt.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My home for the last 8 hours, very comfortable:

Looks comfortable indeed. Probably one of the nicer Y seats out there.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The woman says the guy had been making funny noises, frowning to himself and acting weirdly most of the time he was awake! Soon I spot a pair of cops (must be the RCMP?) arriving and escorting the guy out of the plane, after which we are free to deboard.

This is very strange. Wonder what ever happened with him?


User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 10
Reply 31, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14586 times:

Great report FlyingFinn. I'm glad to see that you came back to Canada. Seems like you enjoyed AC's service. I too have been pretty pleased with their long-haul service. Can't say much about their short haul, including a recent trip where I flew a leg from YYZ to LAX.

I must say, your choice in beer is not the best my friend... "Molson Canadian"? Yuck mate...

How do you find Toronto's transit, or I should say "Greater Toronto Transit"? I think for a city its size is pretty bad. They should learn a few things from the S. Koreans or Japanese. I am still shocked that the only city in this country that has the metro run all the way to the airport is YVR... and even that is only 2 years old. Pathetic.

Well I hope you had a great time in Toronto. It's one of my fav. cities in Canada and the first city I lived in, when my family and I moved here from Romania (19 years ago)

Looking forward to your future TRs.

Regards

Vio



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 32, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14452 times:

Hello P!

Very nice report of your Atlantic crossing! Good to see that AC treated you well, they sure seems impressive. I wouldn't mind flying them one day!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I head outside to the cool morning air to sit down for a while and smell the sweet smell of jetfuel (almost as good as the smell of fresh napalm in the morning, I can tell ya!).

Does jetfuel smell like victory, though?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Such a beautiful bird. It might not have the awesome power, size and technology of its bigger sister, the triple seven, but a 767 is still a lovely plane.

Indeed, I like the 767 too. The 2-3-2 arrangement in economy class is pretty much unbeatable.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nils seemed to be obsessed with me spotting the Atominium so here it is:

Ah yes I remember spotting the Atomium on my one and only takeoff from BRU, in 2010.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another random fact about Finland:

I just love what the guy from Stockholm University is saying in the text above! ;D

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like Dulles isn’t the only airport with moon buggies:

Ah yes I remember those from my unplanned IAD visit! I'm glad I got to try one!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

My home for the last 8 hours, very comfortable:

That seat does indeed look quite nice.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Upon a closer look I get a nice surprise. Instead of reboarding C-FXCA we are actually boarding C-GDUZ

Congrats, I bet that was rather unexpected!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At this point I figure out that we are too high for a straight in landing from the east so looks like we’ll do a downwind leg past YYZ then, all the better for views:

Wow some great views over Toronto right there. I have always wanted to go there!

Martin


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 33, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14454 times:

Nice transatlantic crossing. Shame about the ineptitide of AC in BRU through.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

Ha, in the UK they can't guarentee the platform til the train is on it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

- “Toronto”
- “Today or yesterday?”

Ha, you should have asked for tomorrow's

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, of course it doesn’t match - ever heard of Scandinavian characters which certainly can wreak all kinds of havoc if they make their way into CRS systems - just like pretty much any character outside the 7-bit original ASCII range - gotta love legacy mainframe systems! Oh and I do happen to use my middle name as my forename, thank you very much.

Have you through about officialy changing you name? No, seriously, in the UK it's cheap and easy to do (deed poll). Taking away those little dots on your passport might be a good time investment for you.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

Never heard of IB!?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The cabin - apart from the small overhead bins you’d have a hard time knowing this bird’s age - the XM program AC carried out some years ago certainly did them good:

Cabin looks nice. Why is it that the overheads are the one thing that airlines don't like to redo? A lot of new 747 upper decks look so old with the original overheads. Only Asian airlines seem to care

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Somewhere over the Irish Sea the service carts reach my row. The choice is “chicken or pasta”. I decide to go with the pasta - it is hard to completely ruin and this is what I get:

Have to never had pasta that's turned into one plasticly lump?!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The super friendly young male (what else) FA is already reaching for a bottle of red wine when he asks me what I’d like to drink so I say “Keep reaching for that bottle, that is exactly what I’d asked for!” - “Oh yes, I read your mind. I know what you like.”. Nice. Also no problems getting a second bottle, hear that KLM:

I thought AC charged for booze...good to see they don't

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As Marc predicted it is one of these ubiquitous Monty’s wraps

Man, they've got everywhere!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Oh, it’s him!”

Love the picture of everyone standing up to get a better look!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, good for me to catch two different 767s on this flight.

Congrats!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Ahh, it is good to be back on the continent of properly sized hotel rooms:

It might be big, but it looks very retro



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6824 posts, RR: 77
Reply 34, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14287 times:

Hi P.,

great report about your AC experience. Bad to hear about the chaos at BRU, but at least your flight wasn't grounded.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Such a beautiful bird. It might not have the awesome power, size and technology of its bigger sister, the triple seven, but a 767 is still a lovely plane.

The 767 is one of the most boring planes out there IMO, but tastes are different.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

My flights on these birds weren't so bad. I guess there are worse options (e.g. being stuck in a cramped KL 77W cabin with IFE box under your seat).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

It is on okay Mediterranean-style pasta with taglietelle, tomato sauce, pesto, sundried tomatoes, fetaish cheese and olives. Very nice and tastes good - and I am quite hungry by this point!

At least it tasted good - the presentation is horrible.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Since beer is charged for on domestic flights I decide to honor PlaneHunter’s memory by performing his famous Ginger Ale test, but it fails miserably as instead of Ginger Ale I get a can of Soda Gingembre instead! At least the taste is okay and the brand is (of course) Canada Dry:

Well done! Interesting to see that kind of drink - never heard of that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Business class, I don’t really like these herringbone seat arrangements:

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nice visibility here, good to follow this 777 (?) landing:

Looks like a Swiss A333.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
I remember reading from PlaneHunter that AC had some problems with the system early on but it seems to be working fine now.

Yes, there were serious problems for a long time. The airshow wasn't available on my 77W flight.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Yes the trade mark PH onboard drink status!!

  


PH



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 35, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 14252 times:

Hi guys, good to see so many comments. Thank you very much!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Nice to see another report on AC, and yet another one on Toronto!! I apologise for getting very carried away with my responses lol

Don't be - it is good to have a comprehensive comment - just like my reports tend to be!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Did you chose to stay here due to the really cheap prices, like the reason Jonas did?

Well the cheap price was the biggest factor, together with easy access to/from the airport and the fact that I wanted to show Jonas that there's nothing wrong with the area  .

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
You've never stood in an EY or EK check in line, where oversized baggages and whole family of us folk wait to check in lol

Well, no, I've never stood in an EY or EK check in line, period  . But I've seen plenty of these flights with Filipinos etc. people flying home and bringing everything including three kitchen sinks  . Something I try to avoid.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Well because it is. Not a minute more, not a minute less...As you travelled with the GO you probably realise they left on time, and if it was a minute or two late, sighs were guaranteed.

Yeah, our bus did leave right on the dot.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Is it really inhabited by crooks, again as Jonas has indicated in past reports?

Well apparently there are some drug addicts etc. around and as it houses the red light district there are some seedy venues and the kind of characters to match these. But I still stand by my words that unless you are acting really stupidly there's nothing wrong with the area.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Again love you sense of humor

Thanks, you have to thank my father for that - he is the same!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Oh do so share more about this. I could sure use The Stare (TM) when I don't get that last seat on the aircraft, something I definitely try to aim for when checking in online.

Well, just look people with a stern expression on your face with a stare that could burn right through them. It always works.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Is that what Finns are noted for....nudity???

That's part of the stereotype with the saunas and stuff, isn't it? Many Finns, especially young males like to run around butt naked, especially when suitably lubricated...  .

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
That was still the Eastern suburbs, population less than 120,000...
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
You were now over the city of Toronto and it's suburbs ...around 2 million and more

Yeah, I was referring to the whole GTA which is something like 5.5 million people I think? And the Golden Horseshoe has another three million more....

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
And here you are now over my hometown, Mississauga lol....Population around +700,000!!!

Yes, I saw the sign from that GO bus and was really, really surprised by it! Never realized there were so many people living there - more than in the city of Helsinki!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
That is the border of Mississauga and Oakville. The latter a much smaller suburb in comparison

And one that is trying hard to resist overdevelopment to keep its exclusivity I assume?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Yup, nothing like a Timmy's to make you feel you are back in Canada.....Hey they've even opened a Tim Horton's in Dubai!!!

Yes, I saw that at Dubai back in Feb. Kinda weird.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 16):
Mississauga Transit now has tons of Express buses too, just that the route you were on did not have one. Next time head West instead of East to Mississauga Square One and you'll find some mall action if that is what you are into lol.

But there's no HRC in Mississauga!  . Next time I'll send you a message and have you to show me the scene...  
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 17):
I find the AC cookies for desert an "irritation" and their tiny snack for an 8 hour + flight insufficient. They also lost my suitcase and never found it again.

Yes, I remember that report bright and clear. For me the service for just right for a flight of this duration and I prefer a cookie to a "real" dessert dish anyway. But that's a matter of taste, I guess.

Quoting stipica (Reply 18):
the first picture shows a football hysteria that is present in the homeland and diaspora ... definitely Croatia played that day

Thanks for your long explanation. I knew most of it, I just never realized there was such a large Croatian community in Ontario.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
Once upon a time I had booked a flight on them but the infamous Chicago winter prevented me from flying with them.

AC having problems with the winter weather? They should have plenty of experience with harsh climate!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
Isn't it interesting that the way "Newfoundland" is pronounced (especially by the locals) makes it sound like "New Finland"?

Really? I don't think I've ever heard any Canadian pronouncing it, though  .

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
How clever. I wish more airports had such a separate line. It would make life so much easier for those connecting.

+1.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
Kinda weird given that Belgium is such a relatively organized place.

Belgium? Organized? Wow, you should spend some time in Scandinavia!  .

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 20):
Sounds like a (standard) good experience with AC, in the air - unfortunately, most people fault them, rightly so, for their performance on the ground, which is where they fall apart, particularly during disruptions such as the cancelled flight they had trouble catching up on.

Yeah, I've seen plenty of AC bashing on various boards and can't really understand it. But I guess I haven't seen the worst of it. Ok, once I was stuck at the Ottawa airport for a couple of hours when a thunderstorm passed over and there wasn't much info available about our delay but I thought that was a standard thing with any carrier...

I can't really blame AC for the BRU thing as to me it was the handling agent's fault.

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 20):
Those 767s may be 20+ yrs old, but post-XM are just fine  

My thoughts exactly.

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 20):
Glad you had fun in my hometown, which oddly keeps showing up more & more in TRs, lately (?) - looking forward to your next installment.

Toronto or Mississauga?

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 20):
p.s. the "giver vs. taker" comment, as OA260 pointed out is *hilarious*, if that's what you meant... and was most likely lost on most people - lol!

I get a lot of that, that's why I use a shotgun approach with my jokes!

Quoting Jambost (Reply 21):
Great read, AC are no doubt one of the best carriers to cross the Atlantic they seem to have a lot more class compared to my experience with Zoom back in the day.

Thanks. Yes, it was a very nice (inflight) experience on all fronts.

Quoting Jambost (Reply 21):
I have a rough plan for Canada which involves becoming a truck driver, and trucking Canada for a year! Hope those 767's are still around in 5 years time!

Wow, that sounds exciting! Hope you can pull it off. I think they should be still flying - it's not too many years since they did the XM program and that one should've cost quite a lot of money so no point in just wasting it by retiring the type too early.

Quoting Jambost (Reply 21):
That large Island just north of your position is my summer holiday spot, it involves a 7 hour journey sadly by road. Great spot to see the transatlantic traffic arrive and depart into Irish eyes!

Interesting to know!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
Good to read about your experience with AC, I have never tried them but always wanted to, somehow I like their livery with that greenish color on the fuselage.

Me too, me too.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
Finally some really nice pictures, looks like you were lucky with the clear weather. Interesting to see the difference between Europe (crowded cities) and Canada (vast urban areas).

Well, this is the difference between Europe and America in general. Everything has been built within the last 300 or so years and there wasn't much there before (plus an abundance of space) so you can do a lot more than with the European cities, some of which are thousands of years old.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
... well, you could have walked on the other side of the street   ...

Actually this was the last street, right next to the railroad tracks and there wasn't a sidewalk on the other side.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
  ... Although there should have been an LH plane as well next to the Finnair one ...

Good point.

Quoting brilondon (Reply 25):
but a minor correction, you did not have the Air Canada Centre but the Roger's Centre (Sky Dome).

Ok, thanks. I tend to get confused with these.

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 26):
Great report FF, always interesting to see someone else's trip to the same place I was quite recently.

Thank you.

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 26):
BRU looked like quite a mess and I don't think I would have coped with the crowds as well as you.

I had to remind me a couple of times that I was on holiday and no point getting too agitated over it!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 28):
That was a really great report FlyingFinn76! Very enjoyable. Thanks a lot for taking the time to write it and for sharing the pics.

Thanks!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 28):
LOL. You clearly have not been on an AR flight. Joking aside, a recent TR dealt with a US flight to LHR? and it seemed that the flight was surprisingly pleasant.

Yeah, I guess there are more bad carriers and even the bad apples can sometimes have their day.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 28):
I do not think that would be a reasonable estimation. In which way did you think it was poor?

Well I actually read this from the Globe and Mail newspaper years ago where they had a feature story about Montreal and called it a poor city (and showed some statistics which proved it true, at least compared to Toronto).

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 30):
Thanks for this report, I like your writing style.

Thanks, I like it too  .

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 30):
Sounds like a poor performance from Air Canada on the ground in BRU. Reminds me of my UA experience a few years back out of TPA.

Yeah, I guess any carrier can have these days every now and then.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 30):
Once in the air, however, it looks like AC did well. They seam to offer a better product than many U.S. carriers (DL 767s).

The only US carrier I've done transatlantics on is AA (4 times) and I found the product to be better than theirs, mostly thanks to the free drinks, a better snack and a much friendlier crew. Seats and IFE are about the same IMHO since I had no use for the power ports.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 30):
This is very strange. Wonder what ever happened with him?

No idea, probably escorted somewhere in custody and then interrogated and investigated to determine whether he is a threat or in need of treatments or something.

Quoting vio (Reply 31):
Can't say much about their short haul, including a recent trip where I flew a leg from YYZ to LAX.

I've flown some intra-Canada segments on AC and found them to be about par with the US carriers domestic flights - free soft drinks and not much else. Usually quite friendly crews though.

Quoting vio (Reply 31):
I must say, your choice in beer is not the best my friend... "Molson Canadian"? Yuck mate...

Well I happen to like it.

Quoting vio (Reply 31):
How do you find Toronto's transit, or I should say "Greater Toronto Transit"? I think for a city its size is pretty bad. They should learn a few things from the S. Koreans or Japanese. I am still shocked that the only city in this country that has the metro run all the way to the airport is YVR... and even that is only 2 years old. Pathetic.

Hard to say, I haven't spend that much time in Toronto. But generally it is okay but I think they would need to do some tweaking and integration of the systems there. I mean in many places, especially outside Europe I always have the feeling that somehow they are trying to make using the public transport just too darn hard like having to have those stupid little transfer slips if you want to transfer between different modes of transport, not having vending machines accepting credit cards, having to buy separate tickets to e.g. the GO trains, Mississauga Transit buses, the TTC subway etc etc. And like in Washington D.C. - they have a fancy smart card you can use to pay your trip but on a weekend there apparently was no way to buy it from! Just so confusing and too complicated, IMHO.

Agree about the airport connection, that bus ride to the metrostation thing is quite annoying.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 32):
Does jetfuel smell like victory, though?  

Nope, I guess. Since I live near the HEL airport a surefire way of telling that the winter has come is when you go out early in the morning and if the wind is just right there's this aroma of Jetfuel A1 everywhere in the air. Apparently when the air is sufficiently cold it carries much further than during the summer.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 32):
Ah yes I remember those from my unplanned IAD visit! I'm glad I got to try one!

Not my idea of a fun way to (de)board an aircraft, but I guess I could try them once.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 32):
Congrats, I bet that was rather unexpected!

Yes, it was.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 32):
Wow some great views over Toronto right there. I have always wanted to go there!

I certainly was glued to the window.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
Ha, you should have asked for tomorrow's

That would've wrecked my flight plans.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
Have you through about officialy changing you name? No, seriously, in the UK it's cheap and easy to do (deed poll). Taking away those little dots on your passport might be a good time investment for you.

No, there are traditions with my family name, thank you very much. And wasn't there this UK guy who changed his name to "Sony Playstation" or something like that since he was such a big fan of it?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
Never heard of IB!?

Well yes, that might rival US I guess.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
Have to never had pasta that's turned into one plasticly lump?!

Well sometimes, good point there.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
I thought AC charged for booze...good to see they don't

I thought too until I read a report stating otherwise some years ago. This is a plus point for them.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 33):
It might be big, but it looks very retro

Well I like this style more than an ultra contemporary look.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 34):
The 767 is one of the most boring planes out there IMO, but tastes are different.

How about one with winglets then?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 34):
Looks like a Swiss A333.

Could be.


User currently offlinedkdaviator From Denmark, joined Jun 2009, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 14107 times:

Hi FF,

Nice read about your continuing journey there.

Too bad about all the checking/ground handling delays and confusion at BRU. And too bad it cut into your planned lounge visit. Good to see you at least managed a brief one though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another random fact about Finland:

Good to see some DK representation there.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hmm, looks like Canada (or Quebec?) has some archaic liquor laws as well:

hehe, if it wasn't for the French contained on that sign, you might have easily and mistakenly thought you were somewhere in Texas. As a matter of fact, just replace the French part with Spanish, and you could use it at DFW!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Instead of reboarding C-FXCA we are actually boarding C-GDUZ,

Ah, cool, so you wound up on the planned/anticipated one in the end - you just had to chase it to Montreal first.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
so I have to take a replacement bus instead:

Oh no, the dreaded replacement bus. But I guess it got you there in the end...

D.



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1096 posts, RR: 32
Reply 37, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13774 times:

Hi P,

Excellent report - thoroughly enjoyed.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, I’m a tasty EU burger, that’s me:

Ha- an EU Burger sounds like it would give me stomach ache. The whole BRU experience looked really chaotic.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
having a free seat next to you gives you the nice ability to use the PTV next to you as a permanent airshow.

Yes - a good trick. So nice getting a free seat... aaah

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and decide to watch the Iron Lady - an excellent but sad movie about the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston Churchill:

Ha. Was also my last in-flight film. A nice choice...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
An excellent view of Pearson International Airport:

Wonderful views! And such a clear day... nicely done.

I was in Canada in February. I think I chose a bad time to go as I didn't find Toronto as amazing as all others seem to find it. I will give it another try in Summer one year...

Looking forward to the return (and more importantly your Alitalia fuel-dump - I was just a little too late to see this status on FB!! Grrr.)

Adios

Luke!



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 38, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13639 times:
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Finally found found some free time to read this P, most enjoyable.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I am well aware this is the red light district of Brussels but no, I actually had no idea the girls would be already out there “on duty” before eight on a weekday morning!

- Wow, these girls are really busy, never knew there was a need so early in the day..

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the privilege of using the world’s slowest check in application - seriously this one makes even Windows to look like the fastest OS on the block.

- I found the LH/bmi self service machines are really slow.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I head outside to the cool morning air to sit down for a while and smell the sweet smell of jetfuel

- Nothing like the smell of jetfuel!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
All in all it takes me an hour and a quarter (YES, 1h15mins. This is completely unacceptable.) in that queue to finally reach the business class check in desk

- BRU is a Star Hub, surely AC could have called upon resources?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I get stuck behind a bunch of Turkish youngsters who don’t seem to be very familiar with the concept of airport security. Well the girl is too hot to be annoyed by that anyway (wow, this is starting to sound like one of Markus’ reports).

- One of the reasons I like Markus TR's  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It might still around ten thirty in the morning but I’ll have my Leffe, no matter what. So I do

- When travelling, the 12:00 rule does not exist, at least in my book.....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This bird is over 22 years old, having spent all of its life with Air Canada. Interestingly this was the first plane to carry the new (current) Air Canada livery, here’s to that!

- Interesting to know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Inside it looks like our whole crew is all-male, later when approaching Montreal I saw a single female FA who apparently served in the business class cabin, but apart from that it is all males, mostly young and mostly very friendly.

- I don't think I have had an all male flight on a long haul.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I lucky out on this flight - a free seat next to me, yay!

- Nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Somewhere over the Irish Sea the service carts reach my row. The choice is “chicken or pasta”. I decide to go with the pasta - it is hard to completely ruin and this is what I get:
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It is on okay Mediterranean-style pasta with taglietelle, tomato sauce, pesto, sundried tomatoes, fetaish cheese and olives. Very nice and tastes good

- Looks ok, seen worse looking meals in Y.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The super friendly young male (what else) FA is already reaching for a bottle of red wine when he asks me what I’d like to drink so I say “Keep reaching for that bottle, that is exactly what I’d asked for!” - “Oh yes, I read your mind. I know what you like.”. Nice. Also no problems getting a second bottle, hear that KLM:

- Great crew!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Enjoying good food while starting my 13th transatlantic crossing:

- This is impressive, so much so I decided to count mine, 24, was quite amazed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coffee, the styrofoam cup is the only thing I dislike

- Agreed, very cheap, what happened to the plastic re-usable cups?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After lunch I lean back and decide to watch the Iron Lady - an excellent but sad movie about the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston Churchill:

- Not watched it yet, but agree with your comments.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m also thrilled to learn they have Molson Canadian onboard

- I should hope so!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Far too soon (it seems) the captain is on the horn, announcing we are two hundred miles out of Montreal and commencing our descent right now for “a beautiful summer day in Montreal, clear skies and 20 degrees”. Then he makes a further announcement that “our First Officer will complete his captain training with this flight, so from now on he should be spending many fine years as a captain with Air Canada!” - this is followed by limited applause - I of course do applaud for such an achievement!

- Nice touch, never come across that before.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Business class, I don’t really like these herringbone seat arrangements:

- Agreed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coors Light - well, a beer it ain’t but as a refreshing beverage it works:

- One of the reasons I quite like it from time to time.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1836 posts, RR: 20
Reply 39, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13249 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76

I'm slowly working my way through this epic set of trip reports on your North American odyssey. Thanks for posting, you've kept me well entertained!

I'm sorry to hear about your Air Canada check-in fiasco. Sounds like the handling agent in Brussels really did not handle the situation very well. Other than that though, the on board product - once you finally did manage to get aboard - doesn't look half bad. The pasta dish may not look very appealing but from the picture it looks like a decently sized meal.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After lunch I lean back and decide to watch the Iron Lady - an excellent but sad movie about the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston Churchill:

That film really was quite amazing I thought, or rather Meryl Streep is. While I was watching it, I repeatedly had to remind myself that the woman on the screen was not really Thatcher. She really is one of the greatest actresses out there. It's not just that she looked like her, she also sounded the same.

But bloody hell, FlyingFinn, seriously, '...the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston...'?

And off I go so see how this continues.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 40, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 13042 times:

Hiya guys, good to see more comments on the earlier parts as well! Thank you!

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 36):
Too bad about all the checking/ground handling delays and confusion at BRU. And too bad it cut into your planned lounge visit. Good to see you at least managed a brief one though.

Well I made a decision while getting frustrated in the queue: I'll visit the lounge come hell or high water and I most certainly did!

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 36):
Good to see some DK representation there.  

Well if it had been pork meat production (or consumption) I'm sure you guys would've been right there on the top  .

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 36):
As a matter of fact, just replace the French part with Spanish, and you could use it at DFW!

Haha, nice point. Ever tried to buy beer in Sweden before 11AM?

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 36):
Ah, cool, so you wound up on the planned/anticipated one in the end - you just had to chase it to Montreal first.  

Yep, a slippery bastard that one.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 37):
The whole BRU experience looked really chaotic.

It was. I think the Belgians, at least the Wallonians have quite a bit of French blood in them thus the tendency to turn things into a chaos a'la CDG.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 37):
Yes - a good trick. So nice getting a free seat... aaah

You'll hate me for this but on my last 6 flights between Europe and the US or Canada I've had a free seat next to me. A track record I'm hoping to keep quite a bit longer...

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 37):
Wonderful views! And such a clear day... nicely done.

Yep, a very nice day in Ontario so great views.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 37):
I was in Canada in February. I think I chose a bad time to go as I didn't find Toronto as amazing as all others seem to find it. I will give it another try in Summer one year...

Ugh, February doesn't sound too nice - cold and snowy. It indeed is a completely different city during the summer!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
- Wow, these girls are really busy, never knew there was a need so early in the day..

Well, early or late, it's all a matter of perspective I guess  .

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
- BRU is a Star Hub, surely AC could have called upon resources?

I guess they were stuck with their handling company and whatever it could do - which in this case was pitifully little.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
- This is impressive, so much so I decided to count mine, 24, was quite amazed!

Haha, there you go - just keep racking them up! BTW have you already booked the MH A380 to KUL?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
- Agreed, very cheap, what happened to the plastic re-usable cups?

Too complicated (=expensive) to use. The planet thanks you.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 39):
I'm slowly working my way through this epic set of trip reports on your North American odyssey. Thanks for posting, you've kept me well entertained!

Thanks. Entertaining people is my business.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 39):
The pasta dish may not look very appealing but from the picture it looks like a decently sized meal.

Yeah, looking back now it doesn't really look that appetizing but it was very tasty and I was so hungry at that point that it hit the spot very nicely.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 39):
That film really was quite amazing I thought, or rather Meryl Streep is. While I was watching it, I repeatedly had to remind myself that the woman on the screen was not really Thatcher.

Oh yes, she indeed was amazing. And that English accent - no way to tell that it was really faux.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 39):
But bloody hell, FlyingFinn, seriously, '...the best Prime Minister the UK had since Sir Winston...'?

Sorry, I might be a Finn but I'm a sworn right winger, born and bred. I don't have much sympathy for any kind of socialism and if you want to piss me off just say the world "Trade union" (ok, two words) and you're there. Mrs. Thatcher and Mr. Reagan - now those were the two ends of the "special relationship" that I could fully agree with!


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4273 posts, RR: 51
Reply 41, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12838 times:

Hi P, great reprot, clear pics too! Love it  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, of course it doesn’t match - ever heard of Scandinavian characters which certainly can wreak all kinds of havoc if they make their way into CRS systems

Something to work on here...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
All in all it takes me an hour and a quarter (YES, 1h15mins. This is completely unacceptable.)

That's rubbish indeed

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At least she tags my bag with a priority tag, I say that those things are mostly useless as on most airports they just don’t honor them at all, but she insists that it is part of the service.

Well it worked for me on most oneworld flights so far  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Once finally airside I see my flight is showing as boarding. Well not so fast, I’m most certainly not missing a lounge visit here! So I quickly buy a horribly overpriced bottle of water from “Grab’n’go”

You can be cheaper and bring in your own empty bottle and refill them in the lounge with their offered water haha

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Look, I just spent one and half hours in queues and I’m going to have my drink here no matter what!”. The girl understands that I’m not in a mood to argue with and that there’s a certain look in my eyes so she just hands me my boarding pass and says: “Welcome. Just don’t miss your flight.”.

What a stupid girl... well said and no rush!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Inside it looks like our whole crew is all-male, later when approaching Montreal I saw a single female FA who apparently served in the business class cabin, but apart from that it is all males, mostly young and mostly very friendly.

No problems here with all young male crews haha

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The captain makes a welcome speech, announces our flight time “gate to gate” as 7h36mins with 7h6mins “in the air” (why is is always the Americans and Canadians who are so exact with these times?).

Reading the times straight from the flightplan, so he can't make mistakes?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The Channel is quite narrow here

Always worrying with Northwestern strong winds/storm and high tide, it makes the water rise along the Dutch coast because this narrow 'escape'

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It is on okay Mediterranean-style pasta with taglietelle,

Why tagliatelle?! It's more difficult to eat this on planes. They better serve fussili, penne or macaroni on a plane

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Also no problems getting a second bottle, hear that KLM

?! Always get seconds on KLM when I ask for.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
it belonged to Amsterdam Airlines once upon a time (together with many other carriers) and is now operated by Lithuanian Avion Express, apparently operating a flight for CU right now!

Ouch, knowing the bad seatpitch on my Amsterdam Airlines flight, the long flight to Cuba would be a nightmare

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At security the guys direct me to use the nudiescope - no options are given

You can always opt out, could mean no flight then (at some places) but it's always your own right to decide against it.

Will read the other stories soon too!

Eric



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 42, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12480 times:

Hi Petteri


Great report, thanks for sharing! Finally I'm able to reply on this trip report.
Too bad about the BRU fiasco! Had the same thing with Aviapartner a few years ago when flying CO to EWR where there where 3 desks for 2 fully loaded 764's. Resulting in a 3 hour queue.

Air Canada seemed to have pleased you, just as me in february. Good food, great cabin crew and a superb hard product was more than enough to make the flight enjoyable. Even with the ground events.

Did have a LOL at the US airways pic, it is indeed the crappiest way to go to the U S of A.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 43, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12333 times:

Hi guys, good to see more comments! Thank you very much!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 41):
You can be cheaper and bring in your own empty bottle and refill them in the lounge with their offered water haha

Sometimes I do that. But not from the lounge water supply but from the tap.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 41):
No problems here with all young male crews haha

I knew it!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 41):
Why tagliatelle?! It's more difficult to eat this on planes. They better serve fussili, penne or macaroni on a plane

Hmm, interesting point. I didn't make a mess this time though - but I can imagine eating Spaghetti Bolognese onboard could be a messy affair. Both for you and your seatmates, especially that biz traveler in his crisp white clean business shirt.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 41):
Also no problems getting a second bottle, hear that KLM
?! Always get seconds on KLM when I ask for.

But not at once, you have to ask for them separately. BTW SN on the way back was the same.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 41):
Ouch, knowing the bad seatpitch on my Amsterdam Airlines flight, the long flight to Cuba would be a nightmare

Well maybe they installed new seats... (no, I don't believe that even myself).

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 42):
Too bad about the BRU fiasco! Had the same thing with Aviapartner a few years ago when flying CO to EWR where there where 3 desks for 2 fully loaded 764's. Resulting in a 3 hour queue.

Whoops, that sounds horrible! Why can't they summon some additional staff or start the check ins at different times, this will not work!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 42):
Air Canada seemed to have pleased you, just as me in february.

Oh yeah, your description on them was spot on. Very nice.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 42):
Did have a LOL at the US airways pic, it is indeed the crappiest way to go to the U S of A.

Well like someone (Gab?) pointed out, IB might give them a run for their money...  


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12260 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nice visibility here, good to follow this 777 (?) landing:


That's actually a Swiss a333. Nice pics BTW!!!


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 33
Reply 45, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11627 times:

Hi P,

What a way to start a big US trip: with such a mess in BRU. Such an experience is enough to put you off using the place again.

Great photos of Montreal on both arrival and departure, as well as of Toronto. Your report brings back a few memories for me: my first longhaul flight was as an UM to YYZ, also on AC and I got upgraded to C-Class although the seats were nothing like they were on your bird!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I like these train schedules they have everywhere in Central Europe:

Great aren't they? Especially how every train has a set platform and a set configuration of 1st/2nd class coaches.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Err... today?”
- “Check in is not open for you yet. These are people from yesterday’s flight! Go away!”
(Okay, she might’ve been a bit more polite with that last wish but the message was clear).

Even if she was a bit more polite, it's still very rude.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
See, it is already delayed by an hour - interesting that they didn’t use some auxiliary flight number but the original AC833 instead. This means there will be *two* AC833s today:

I find that strange and confusing. LX usually add a 7 to the flight number is cases like that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
lucky out on this flight - a free seat next to me, yay!

That was to make up for all the hassle on the ground in BRU!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but I gave him The Stare (TM) a few times and he finally learned not to mess with the Finn!

Yes, I'm well familiar with "The Stare", I need a it a lot in Switzerland!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
He is also holding is chest so I guess it is some sort of heart trouble here - but a person in such condition shouldn’t really be moving at all, should he? Luckily the emergency medics are soon there to take care of him.

Doesn't sound good. Hope the guy made a full recovery.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineAYA333 From Finland, joined Aug 2008, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11449 times:

Petteri, again a cool report! And too bad that ground handling sucked at BRU!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
- “Toronto”
- “Today or yesterday?”

:D Maybe wasn't that amusing back then though!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another DHL depot specially dedicated to AYA333:

Thanks! But my interest is purely professional and is concentrated on the HEL depot 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No, I most certainly am not very “appy” right now:

Don't worry, be appy!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Miramichi Airport in New Brunswick - the town of Miramichi is somewhat famous in Finland due to a huge Finnish-owned pulp mill there:

It is?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Ahh, it is good to be back on the continent of properly sized hotel rooms:

What a waste of space!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Suburban Canadiana:

Hmmm, looks like a scene from a movie!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 15):
Jonas, my reports are like Tarantino movies

Then you should consider writing a report that does not happen in chronological order?

Jani



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 47, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11171 times:

Hi P.,

Thank you for sharing this exciting transatlantic experience through your eyes. Too bad, your departure was not during the finest hours of BRU.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Check in is not open for you yet. These are people from yesterday’s flight! Go away!”

Go away? Did she really say that? How rude!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but I’ll have my Leffe, no matter what.

Did you take brown Leffe?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but apart from that it is all males, mostly young and mostly very friendly.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The super friendly young male (what else) FA is already reaching for a bottle of red wine when he asks me what I’d like to drink so I say “Keep reaching for that bottle, that is exactly what I’d asked for!” - “Oh yes, I read your mind. I know what you like.”. Nice.

I should fly AC sometime.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Molson Canadian

Luckily AC’s got no Heineken on board.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
I of course do applaud for such an achievement!

I assume, you congratulated the copilot?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Interesting to see that change in color in the middle of the river -

Playful nature phenomenon.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Looks like Dulles isn’t the only airport with moon buggies:

So, this is how you get on and off the buggies. Cool!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
I gave him The Stare (TM) a few times and he finally learned not to mess with the Finn!

Awesome!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
At security the guys direct me to use the nudiescope - no options are given and I actually didn’t realize what it was until later! Oh well, my first time using it and since I’m a Finn I love being in the nude anyway!

I won’t mind the nudiscope either.  


Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
the same woman who I talked with earlier exclaims loudly “We came from Brussels too but are already here!”.

You gotta love her!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
there’s some sort of mood lighting here but no personal air vents:

Beautiful.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Finally the lost sheep are found as we pack up

Shame on them!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
A gorgeous sundown is a good way to end this long day and report:

What a fitting finale!


Best wishes,
Suryo  



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User currently offlinedcaviation From Poland, joined Aug 2011, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11139 times:
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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Possibly the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic:

I agree with you totally. Air Canada is the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic.


User currently offlineRGElectra80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10450 times:

Your TR is exactly what I'd expect from a Finn: humorous, with a lot of sarcastic quips peppered in for good measure. I hope the other ones are as witty.


Feel free to check out my Flight Diary: flightdiary.net/alenart
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 50, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Hi guys and gals, lovely to see more comments here. Thank you very much, sorry for the belated reply, life on the road has been taxing...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 45):
What a way to start a big US trip: with such a mess in BRU. Such an experience is enough to put you off using the place again.

Well not really, if only you knew what plans regarding BRU I'm hatching...  . But it certainly puts me off from flying AC ex-BRU, at least for some time. A year from now I've completely forgotten about it anyway  .

Quoting infodesk (Reply 45):
got upgraded to C-Class although the seats were nothing like they were on your bird!

Wow, nice one for an UM!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 45):
I find that strange and confusing. LX usually add a 7 to the flight number is cases like that.

Yes, most airlines seem to do something similar.

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 46):
:D Maybe wasn't that amusing back then though!

It was confusing, not amusing. Just such a weird question.

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 46):
Thanks! But my interest is purely professional and is concentrated on the HEL depot 

Come on, expand your mind a little bit. Give DHL a chance!

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 46):
Miramichi Airport in New Brunswick - the town of Miramichi is somewhat famous in Finland due to a huge Finnish-owned pulp mill there:
It is?

Well back when they were closing down mills in Finland there were quite a few pieces in HS and other papers about it and how production is ramped up there at the expense of Finnish jobs - the usual stuff.

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 46):
What a waste of space!

Well space is one commodity there is a lot on that continent, hence the size of houses and hotel rooms and many other things there!

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 46):
Then you should consider writing a report that does not happen in chronological order?

Damn you! You know I spent a whole 6 hour train trip thinking about this and trying to come up with a script that would work for my last trip. Rest assured I will do it at some form at some point!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 47):
Thank you for sharing this exciting transatlantic experience through your eyes. Too bad, your departure was not during the finest hours of BRU.

Well every airport, handling company, airline and Jonas have their good and bad moments.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 47):
Go away? Did she really say that? How rude!

Not in those exact words, more like "Go somewhere to wait" etc.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 47):
Did you take brown Leffe?

Yes. I like it more than the blonde.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 47):
I should fly AC sometime.

Maybe you should Go West for your next big trip?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 47):
I assume, you congratulated the copilot?

Nope, he was nowhere to be seen, unfortunately. And the incident with the weird guy sort of made me forgot the whole thing.

Quoting dcaviation (Reply 48):
I agree with you totally. Air Canada is the crappiest way to cross the Atlantic.

Haha. Well we all are entitled to our opinions, although I'd gladly hear more if you care to elaborate? What's your favorite carrier then?

Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 49):
Your TR is exactly what I'd expect from a Finn: humorous, with a lot of sarcastic quips peppered in for good measure. I hope the other ones are as witty.

Thanks. That's my style, I was born this way, can't help it. Some people like it, some people hate it.


User currently offlinedcaviation From Poland, joined Aug 2011, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9962 times:
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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 50):
Haha. Well we all are entitled to our opinions, although I'd gladly hear more if you care to elaborate? What's your favorite carrier then?

Besides any airline in C/J   I'll take KLM in economy class any day.


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1168 posts, RR: 12
Reply 52, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8030 times:
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Hi once again FlyingFinn,

Outstanding report on your very eventful TATL crossing you have made here.
That check-in process sounds and looks like the most chaotic one I have seen in a while, very bad indeed!
Quite impressived by AC, that plane looks very nice and comfortable and ceratinly doesn't look old. The crew sound very nice too and the food looks acceptable. Must try AC again soon, the last time I flew them was 5/6 years ago (LHR-YYZ).
Quite an eventful flight with that "weird" guy sitting behind you and the medical emergency. Also quite unique to catch the other aircraft from BRU during your transfer at YUL. Quite impressed by YUL too, it looks great.
That approach into YYZ and your pictures of Toronto brings back very nice memories of my weekend stay back in april. thanks!

Now i'm off to catch my flight, hope to read the rest of your series soon!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinebmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (3 weeks 4 days 16 hours 6 minutes ago) and read 1199 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This bird is over 22 years old, having spent all of its life with Air Canada. Interestingly this was the first plane to carry the new (current) Air Canada livery, here’s to that!

22 years? Trip posted date is 6/26/2012 and AC didn't get it's first 767-300's until 1993 or 1994. CP however did receive it's first 767-300 around 1990, so it's propably from CP merger.



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