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US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL)  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
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Introduction

This is the third part of my Summer 2012 US Trip Report. It covers the flights from Toronto to Fort Lauderdale in Florida with United Express and Jetblue.

For the earlier parts, see these:

- Part 0: US Trip 2012 Part 0: Prologue (JYV-TLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 1: US Trip 2012 Part 1: Warming Up (HEL-TXL-BRU) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 2: US Trip 2012 Part 2: Oh (Air) Canada: BRU-YUL-YYZ (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 26 2012 in Trip Reports)

Previous parts have explained how I came to book a flight to Newark with Continental Express operated by a Colgan Air Dash-8 Q400 later changed to a United Express operated by Expressjet with an ERJ-145. However after EWR I needed some more flights and new carriers and eventually decided for Jetblue as I definitely wanted to try them out. Their EWR offering wasn’t stellar, consisting of some sunny destinations in Florida and Boston - after some consideration of further flights I decided upon Florida as there were plenty of nice return options from there. MCO and FLL both sounded very nice, but in the end I went for FLL as the schedule and fare were a better match - the ticket ended up costing 114 USD which I thought was quite reasonable.

Friday 15.6.2012

You gotta love westbound jetlag - I wake up around 4 AM in my comfortable hotel bed, unable to sleep any more. I ordered the airport shuttle for nine so have plenty of time in my hands. Oh well, the TV gets CMT, I’ve got plenty of reading to catch up, there’s free wifi (this seems to be a new thing, the TripAdvisor reviews mentioned pay for wifi access - anyway very nice) and there’s an in room coffee maker ready to supply me with plenty of caffeine.

A new day dawning from the east:

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Eventually it is time to take a shower, pack up and head down to the reception. I’m a bit early so after checking out I go outside to enjoy the gorgeous sunny morning for a while. My flight is only at 11.40 so I’m a bit early with the 9 AM shuttle but I figured out I’ll give the transborder MLL a good try and enjoy some nice breakfast there. Or at least this was the plan, more on it in a bit.

Eventually the shuttle gets there and I share the ride with two Mexican guys. The driver appears to be moonlighting a bit as he also picks up a woman who apparently is his friend and drops her off in a nondescript office somewhere along the way... Anyway in fifteen minutes or so we pull off in front of T1 where I give the guy a decent tip.

Toronto Pearson Airport or How “SSSS” Can Make Your Life Difficult

Some First Nations style art outside the terminal:

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T1 is a very very impressive building - still as sparkling clean and immaculate as I remember it from seven years ago:

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Plenty of flights with Mapleflot:

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United has its own check in instead of being handled by Air Canada so I head there next. I guess I could use a kiosk, but this time I prefer going to the desk instead. Economy has a few people on line but the First Class/Gold/Premium/DYKWIA counter has only a deadheading pilot who is on the verge of missing his second or third flight for the morning... After he hurries away it is my turn. The middle aged Polish agent is extremely friendly and pleasant - after I say “To Newark, please” and hand over my passport she takes a look at it and says “Oh you’re Finnish - we Polish and you pronounce ‘Newark’ the same way - completely different than the Americans!” and smiles at me - somehow I just knew I had found a gem of an agent here!

She asks whether I have a connecting flight from EWR, I say that yes, but it’s on a separate ticket and and a different airline and she shouldn’t really be concerned about that. Well she mumbles something about some flight being an hour late, not sure which flight it is but I get a feeling it just might be mine (I do have a couple of hours at EWR but still an hour might easily turn into two...). She offers to put me on a standby on the earlier flight, “As you have Gold status it won’t cost you anything”, after thinking for a microsecond I agree with her that yes, maybe we should do this.

Oh, and once again I have to give my Florida hotel’s address - this is now the third time it’s been entered into various systems, well it’s not like you are in the same alliance or anything!

Quite a bit of typing later she gives me two boarding passes, one for the flight I’m protected on, with a confirmed seat and then a standby boarding pass for the earlier flight with a seat assignment at gate. She tells me to show the first one at security since it has “Premier Access” printed on it, meaning I should be able to use the priority security lane. After that she wishes me a nice journey and sends me off - my first experience with United Express was certainly a good one!

When walking towards security and US preclearance I take a look at my boarding pass and what do I see - she even conveniently highlighted it with her marker (not that she bothered telling me about it):

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Yes, it is the dreaded “SSSS” - meaning the C(R)APPS software, probably the biggest and most expensive piece of vaporware ever has decided that I’m probably up to no good and should be given a cavity search at security. Sweet. Probably my multi-carrier ticket flying in and out of different airports at NYC with the long stopover at Toronto appears as a dangerous one-way ticket to that piece of crap software, whose biggest achievement is giving people who pay cash for their tickets (see, they don’t want to be traced) and buy one-way tickets (simply genious: they buy one-way tickets, thus they are not planning to return but hijack the plane and fly it into the nearest Taco Bell instead!) a hard time.

Well, not much I can do about it so I head into immigration. Flying to the US from Canada is very nice as they have the same kind of US preclearance facilities as Ireland does, so basically you are processed and enter the US virtually already in Canada, making your arrival very straightforward as you are treated as a domestic passenger). This process is very smooth - no one in queue and the agent is quite friendly, unlike many of the US immigration people I’ve met before. Oh and his last name is Kowalski, so the Polish theme seems to continue here! The usual questions of who I am, what do I do for living and what and how long I’m in the US for and the fingerprint scan later I’m wished a nice visit and send off on my merry way.

Then comes the security part - a guy is directing Premier Access passengers off to a separate lane. I show him my boarding pass - first he is about to admit there but after seeing the four S letters he regretfully says that sorry, no dice for you and off to the normal lane I go. The check itself is quite normal but very throughout - everything is scrutinized very closely (surprisingly they don’t want to go through my bags though) and I’m directed to the nudiescope again. This time the guy asks if I want to use it - the alternative being a full patdown and a bit of a groping. I’m tempted to try to bargain that I’ll take it if one of the girls does the groping but decide to hold my witty tongue this time and just crack the obligatory “Hey I’m a Finn - I love nudity!” joke (not that he seems to get it) and step into the scope instead.

And that’s it - after the scanning I’m released to gather my stuff and put on my belt and shoes again - yeah, another thing I dislike about the security on this side of the pond is the strict “shoes off” rule.

Well, thanks to me being moved to a flight an hour earlier and the time it took to go through this rigmarole I don’t really have that much time for a lounge visit anymore, bugger. So instead of heading for the MLL I head downstairs to the gate area. The first order of the day is to find a place selling electric adapters - yes, I took my usual adapter bag with me, but the previous evening in the hotel I noticed that all the US adapters were missing! So here I am with adapters for India, China and even for Australia, but none for US or Canada! Typical. Luckily Relay has those el cheapo ones for five bucks apiece so I grab a couple of them.

Molson Pub - I bet makeree would like this (on a second thought I think *I* would love it too):

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Since I’m on a commuter plane (not sure which one though) these do not leave from the main pier but out of a dingy little commuter extension instead, sort of like that portacabin pier at DUB Ryanair used for so many years.

The way towards the commuter pier:

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Classy:

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Not so impressive as the main parts of T1:

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On my way to the gate I spend the last of my CAD on a sandwich from the only amenity in this dingy area as apparently there will not be a MLL breakfast for me this time! After getting to the gate I present myself and my boarding pass to the gate agent, explaining that I’m on the standby list for this flight. He asks me for my standby boarding pass. I panic a little as I can’t seem to find it anywhere. He says that I need it. I say why can’t you just check me on the computer and print me a new one. No dice, he points to the stamp on my boarding pass which was put there by the US Immigration (or was it security? I think it was the immigration).

Fine, I rummage through my bag feverishly, trying to find the elusive boarding pass. The woman sitting next to me does not exactly make me feel any better by saying “They told me this flight was overbooked, they offered me 300 dollars to take the next one.”. I say that my odds for getting a seat don’t sound too good.

Finally I find my boarding pass - the check in agent folded it in two before I slipped it in my plastic folder and I was looking for a boarding pass -sized item. I go back to the gate agent.
This time he says:
- “No, I need a boarding pass with the stamp, this won’t do.”
- “Look, this is the standby boarding pass. This is the the other one I showed you earlier.”
(I wave both boarding passes for him)
- “Ok, this will do. Stand aside sir and I will call you if you get a seat.”
Wonder what the heck that was all about - he could’ve saved me some agitation by accepting the stamped pass in the first place!

Exactly a minute later he calls back, “Mr Finn?”
- “Yes?”
- “You are on this flight. Here’s your boarding pass.”
- “Thank you.”

Right then boarding commences. Phew!

Walking to the apron I see several people being handed gate check tags for their rollaboards. I ask the agent about mine but he says it’ll fit right into the overheads. Later it turned out he was absolutely right!

And what do I see outside:

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Yes, looks like I’m back on a Colgan Air Dash instead of an Expressjet ERJ-145. Oh well, actually either one would do - both are new carriers for me and both interesting planes on their own account...

N345NG is around one and half years old and was delivered new to Colgan Air who has operated it ever since, first for Continental Express and now for United Express.

Props are great:

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YYZ - EWR
UA4948 Operated by Colgan Air
Dash 8 Q400 N345NG
Seat 6D
10.31 - 12.54

The female FA on the front door is one of these “seen it all, done it all, couldn’t care less” types, very senior, very disinterested and barely acknowledges passenger’s greetings. Her colleague on the back is quite different - a large, young African American female with a very wide smile that immediately makes you feel good and happy.

I have a seatmate already on 6C, a middle aged businessman type who is clearly very annoyed by the facts that he has a seatmate, has to get up to let me past and that I eat my half finished sandwich once sat down. Otherwise he spends his time reading something on his IPad, later switching to the Rolling Stone Magazine after electronics are to be switched off.

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Not much legroom, but apart from that the faux leather seats are quite nice:

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Not sure what that overbooking talk was about as there are plenty of empty seats on this plane, the load must be a little over 50% by the look of things. The FA asks for one volunteer from rows one to five to move back for balance reasons. Too bad I’m on row 6, otherwise I could’ve volunteered just to get away for Mr. Grumpy. Oh and to potentially get a seat on the left hand side for the chance of catching some nice views of the NYC skyline on landing!

An announcement is made that there’s someone with peanut allergy onboard so if anyone is thinking about opening a bag of peanuts better forget it. After that the captain makes a short welcome announcement, 1h5mins down to Newark today where it apparently is rather windy.

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Pushback is a minute late, followed by a swift taxi towards 24R, but then we stop a little distance from the threshold and just sit there for fifteen minutes with our engines on idle, watching other planes taxiing by and taking off.

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Eventually the captain comes on again and says what I had already figured out: “Bad news folks, ATC has issued a shutdown on all new departures towards Newark due to congestion in the area.”. Apparently we have a new departure time “48 minutes past the hour” - which is almost an hour from the current time. He explains that there’s really nothing we can do but just to hang on the frequency in the hope that an earlier slot might open up, but otherwise we will just shut down our engines and wait. This is promptly done.

The friendlier of the FAs distributes cups of water to passengers during the wait. The older Canadian lady across the aisle, the same one who mentioned the overbooking complains something about the delay to the senior FA and they get into a bit of an argument - the FA again has the attitude “I’ve been through this a million times, so why are you complaining? It’s just an hour and ATC-related, so nothing we can do, lady”. The lady is not really happy and it soon turns out into the usual “This is my first time of flying United since 1975 and I’m certainly not flying you guys again” -type of argument, the FA finally walks away and I could swear she’s trying hard to suppress her laughter. The lady is quite furious and starts bashing UA to her seatmate, the poor fella tries hard to fake sleeping to get away from it all... people.

Well, nothing to do but to read the morning paper, courtesy of the hotel and admire the planes taxiing past.

Nice, a Beech 1900, I should really try again to catch a flight on that little bugger:

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American Eagle:

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More than half an hour later the cap is again on the horn, says that there’s a slight improvement as we now have a take off time at .43, i.e. five minutes earlier than the previous one was, a nice 1h12mins after we left our apron parking position. Indeed we start our engines a few minutes before this and take off right at 11.43, the time my original flight was supposed to depart.

Oh, speaking of my original flight I think this is it - just arrived in the penalty box. No, it doesn’t appear to be running late but who knows how long it will stand here:

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More nice views of Mississauga upon our departure:

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The previous day’s G&M featured a story piece on these new twisty skyscrapers, nice coincidence:

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Crossing the coastline of Lake Ontario:

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You could easily be mistaken that we are over the ocean here:

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But very soon the Niagara River can be seen on the opposite bank, marking the border between Canada and the United States. Right on this day another daredevil was trying (and apparently succeeded) crossing the falls on a tightrope (no, I didn’t see him):

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Hello, US of A - no matter what clueless people might say you are still the greatest and most fun nation on earth, keep up the good work:

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I think this is the city of Lockport:

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As on most of domestic US flights these days the service is a drinks run with free soft drinks - another Ginger Ale Test is performed, this time the brand is Seagram’s - not my favorite one by a long shot:

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My grumpy seatmate opts for a Bloody Mary - and I thought Americans had these old hypocritical attitudes towards alcohol. Well it’s noon already, I guess! He actually gets it for free as the FA tells him that she will come back with the credit card machine a bit later and when she eventually does she says it is broken and whispers (but loudly enough so that I can hear) “It’s on the house!”.

Keuka Lake, part of the Finger Lakes (thanks to the Airtran inflight mag where I not only found out what they are called but also learned that this is actually a wine producing region - I had no idea NY State had wineries! But as Jonas says it, reading airline magazines is as pointless as eating anywhere else than McDonald’s or actually paying money for anything) in upstate New York:

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Oh, and that lake used to be known as “Crooked Lake”, so certainly lots of Jonas influence here.

This is the interestingly named village of Penn Yan at the end of the western branch of the aforementioned lake:

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And there’s the city of Ithaca - I’ve always wanted to go there just because of that cool name:

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Ithaca Airport (ITH):

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Looks like the Canadian lady is still quite frustrated over her argument with the FA since this is what she did to her can of tomato juice:

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View towards the back - looks like I could’ve changed to a window seat on the A side but I decide not to bother my irritated seatmate more (and as we shall soon see it would’ve been a bit pointless anyway):

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The closer to NYC we get, the more urban the scenery becomes. Here’s Middletown, NY - another lovely name:

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Around this time the captain announces our descent and landing in twenty minutes, apologizing for the delay and saying “We will do better the next time, there are just too many planes flying into Newark, and with the high winds the ATC has to restrict the slots and stuff...” - WHAT? Yes, this is exactly what he said! I find it highly unprofessional for an airline pilot of all folks to use this kind of phrases - “and stuff” doesn’t belong in pilot announcements, period. Well, like they say in South Park, maybe it’s a Jersey thing!

The lush, forested Ramako Mountains, part of the Appalachian chain - very beautiful looking:

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Open pit mining:

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Heading into the endless suburban sprawl of NJ:

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Toll booth on the Garden State Parkway:

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At this point I start to suspect that we are not landing from the north so there probably won’t be any NYC skyline views on the left side anyway.

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A few moments later it becomes apparent that we are landing from west to east instead, gliding over the main Amtrak Northeast Corridor railroad:

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...followed by the US Highway 9:

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And touchdown on runway 11 at EWR after a flight time of 1h11mins:

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No doubt who rules the roost here:

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We dock to a jetway (yay, always a novelty with a turboprop!) but have to wait for ten minutes before the doors are finally opened and deboarding commences. My seatmate finally decides to acknowledge my existence by saying “It’s always the same here in Newark.”. Yes, good day to you too, pal!

While waiting the crew makes an announcement that any passengers with missed connections thanks to our delay “should contact the gates personnel here in the A terminal.”. This gets my hopes up as this flight was showing as arriving either to A or C and my Jetblue flight will depart from A.

Newarl Liberty International Airport

Oh well, by the time I emerge from the jetway (the senior FA even managed to fake a smile when I thanked her for the flight) it is very apparent we are actually in the C terminal instead:

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A very nice terminal though, I’m kinda impressed by my first view of EWR:

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Luckily I spot signs for an airside transit bus to the A gates so that should save me the hassle of reclearing security and the novelty of riding the AirTrain or whatever the Jersey thing is called.

That’s my inbound ride:

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Finally - NYC (or rather Manhattan) skyline:

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I locate the gate for the bus, manage to convince the agent that she should admit me with my Jetblue booking confirmation, take the elevator downstairs and enter the bus. The bus just happens to be idling in front of this sign:

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After getting packed with passengers to bus sets off - very nice to see something Scandinavian here:

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Hmm, looks like the ERJs do park at the A terminal:

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Eventually we reach the first stop of the A terminal - there are actually two stops here as there are two piers - I step off here as my gate-to-be should be in this section which indeed turns out to be true. Boy, what a difference this terminal is to the sparkling clean and new C one:

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Yes, the ubiquitous (and much hated by yours truly) dirty carpeting has made a return, in addition to inadequate seating, low ceilings and a general feeling of depression:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Newark_9.jpg

This pier is round, reminds me a bit of the terminal at Bodö, also in that respect that the middle houses a shop/kiosk and the gates radiate out of that.

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I spot my Jetblue gate so head there and ask the agent to print me my boarding pass - the same old story, did OLCI earlier but need the boarding pass. Upon showing the young guy my passport he immediately says “Oh, Finland - I saw on TV that you have the best schools and education system in the world with the smartest kids.”
- ”Well, don’t know about that. I’m not too smart at least!”
- “You are just being modest. Here’s your boarding pass, have a good one!”
- “Thanks man!”

Ahh, this definitely wasn’t a Jersey thing! (If you don’t understand, watch the South Park episode and you will!).

It is way past lunchtime now and I have more than an hour to go so the next step should be obvious. Well apart from the fact that there’s a grand total of one (1) place serving real food in this miserable pier and it’s packed. Luckily turnaround is quite fast, so after just five minutes or so of queuing I get a table. The place turns out to be quite a disappointment on the food department:

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But at least they have Sam Adams on tap, although very very overpriced, so a couple of pints eases my misery a lot:

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After finishing and paying up I head to my gate where the plane has already arrived:



“Let the Blue Times Roll”:

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I have just enough time to purchase the obligatory water bottle before boarding starts. As it is called by rows and I have a seat way back I’m among the first few groups to pass:

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GIDS:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_4.jpg

Short wait inside the jetway - this picture got me thinking - have you ever noticed how a jetway at EWR looks just like a jetway anywhere else in the world:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_5.jpg

EWR - FLL
B6509
A320 N661JB “Let the Blue Times Roll”
Seat 24F
15.06 - 17.35

Looks like somebody is (or at least was) in love with Jetblue:

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A very disinterested purser is staring at us in the front galley, but not really greeting anyone. Nice welcome onboard. She has two colleagues, a very senior guy on the exit row who is the friendliest of the bunch and a younger guy in the back galley who is nice enough and does everything that is written down in his job description but don’t expect any smiles or genuine friendliness from him, no no.

I am very surprised by the old fashionedness of the cabin and especially the seats:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
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I am very surprised by the old fashionedness of the cabin and especially the seats:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_7.jpg

To me these appear to be exactly the same as the old Lufthansa seats.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_8.jpg

Maybe it’s just me, but for a hype company like Jetblue I’d expected something far more contemporary, along the lines of Virgin America perhaps. Legroom at least is great:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_9.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_10.jpg

I get a seatmate on the aisle seat, a bit weird older geezer, but the middle seat stays empty. Total load seems to be around 80%. Passengers seem to be a mix of college kids heading for some partying, snowbirds making a late return down south, your average families bound for the big holiday and flying-obsessed nerdy Finns.

The PTV Jetblue is famous for:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_11.jpg

...which seems to be quite scratched though - also notice the ink, somebody has drawn on it with a pen:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_12.jpg

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BOB Menu trying to be awfully witty but mostly managing just to annoy me:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_13.jpg

Pillows and blankets aren’t free - but then again you can keep those forever. At that price just don’t expect the quality to be stellar, though:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_14.jpg

Of course there’s something for free as well, just look at the number of Registered Trademarks there - that’s Corporate America for you:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_15.jpg

You can also purchase movies:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_17.jpg

And watch telly for free:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_18.jpg

Bubble gum, I presume:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_19.jpg

A quick welcome by the captain announces the flight time as 2h20mins and weather down in Florida as “87 Fahrenheit and scattered rain”.

Pushback is bang on time, well done.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_20.jpg

More Uninental:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_21.jpg

Dedicated to my favorite Zionist - heck the only Zionist I can stand:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_22.jpg

Wow, I didn’t know Fedex still had 727s flying around:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_23.jpg

A bit of a queue for 04L:

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While waiting for our take off tour I notice the girl (maybe 12 y.o.) sitting in front of me has her seatbelt hanging on the space between her seat and the plane’s wall. I tap her father’s (on the middle seat) shoulder and say “Excuse me sir, but I think your daughter’s seatbelt is open.”. They both thank me for this observation, but I think the father is a bit annoyed by me not just minding my own business. Well, sorry for you but it is a federal requirement to have the seatbelts on for take off! Quite bad for the crew not to notice this during their predeparture checks, though!

Take off is fifteen minutes after push back, not too bad for EWR I guess.

Hey, it’s an IKEA:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_25.jpg

Parallel landing on 04R:

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Port of NJ facilities with the Manhattan skyline in the background. But just what is that big top circus looking thing there:

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The 757 that just landed:

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Off we go:

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Lady Liberty:

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Manhattan in the background:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_33.jpg

Turning left:

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Another tollbooth, this time on the New Jersey Turnpike:

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Right after the seatbelt sign goes off my seatmate on the aisle seat somehow realizes that the row behind us is completely empty and decides to switch there instead. I was thinking of suggesting this to him when we were still on the ground but he looked like the type of guy who would be dead afraid not to sit in his assigned seat so I decided against it. Well, best for the both of us!

Not the kind of news you’d like to see when flying onboard Jetblue:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_37.jpg

Oh well, the channel selection had no CMT so I switch to the inflight map. It isn’t very good though, thanks to the far too low resolution of the maps - just take a look at the size of that plane - it is huge:

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Well, I have my own video entertainment so I decide to use that while leaving the PTV on airshow and watching out of the window every now and then for something interesting:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_40.jpg

McGuire Air Force Base (or officially JB MDL McGuire) near Trenton, NJ:

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Dover AFB in Delaware - infamous for being the place where the US Military personnel KIA overseas are traditionally brought back to homeland:

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D.C & Baltimore - just wait a bit, I’m coming, I’m coming:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_43.jpg

Over Chesapeake Bay:

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The drink service is conducted in a very nice way - the FAs ask a row or twoful of passengers at a time about their drink preferences and then bring the choices individually on a tray - quite nice. My coffee comes as Dunkin’ Donuts branded (but sadly no donuts are available):

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Newport News, VA:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_49.jpg

And it’s airport (PHF):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_50.jpg

After everyone has been served with drinks the snack basket is passed around. The spread is your usual junk food - I decide to try Jetblue’s signature Blue Potato Chips (TM) ® (etc)

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I have to confess that these are no good at all - they taste weird and don’t have enough salt:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_52.jpg

This map is freakin’ ugly - but the key here is that we are leaving the continent behind and the rest of the flight will be over the Atlantic:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_53.jpg

The map view is interrupted by some ads every now and then:

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After watching some stuff on my Ipad I am feeling really sleepy and decide to catch some shuteye. 45 minutes or so later I am woken up by the announcement of our descent towards FLL.

Still over the Atlantic at this point:

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There are some very dark clouds around the area but we seem to be doing our best to avoid them:

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The Florida coast coming into view:

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Here we go - into the overdevelopment paradise we head:

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Bit of traffic:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_60.jpg

Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport:

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Plenty of interesting zoning choices here:

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Urban sprawl as far as the eye can see - ugh:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_65.jpg

But it abruptly ends here at the Sawgrass Expressway:

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But then again on the other side is the vast Everglades conservation area:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_68.jpg

We turn back towards the east over the Everglades. More overdevelopment:

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http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_70.jpg

That’s Miami Beach in the distance:

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This is where old cars go to die:

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Miami Beach again:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_75.jpg

Over the tracks we go - yes, FLL airport actually does have its own train station:

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Landing is on 09L after 2h14 mins of flight:

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Wow, the second Beech of the day - wouldn’t mind flying this babe down to Key West for some Hemingwayesque action:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_79.jpg

FLL has a strong Jetblue presence, just like most of the regional airports in Florida:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Jetblue_80.jpg

Parking next to Jetgreen:

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The captain is there to wish passengers farewell on the door - I thank him (and of course the rest of the crew as well) for a good flight.

Bye:

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Fort Lauderdale

Entering the jetway you definitely notice you are in southern Florida - the thick and humid air hits you right on your face.

FLL seems to be another crappy-looking airport with horrible carpeting and low ceilings (oh and lots of Florida tourists if you know what I mean):

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I decided to go with the flow and rent a car here - this is America after all and a rental for my short stay was only thirty bucks so why not? Yes, my hotel actually has an airport shuttle but have I ever mentioned how I have a love/hate relationship with those? The car rental facility is located offsite in the middle of the largest parking facility I’ve ever seen in my life, but luckily there are frequent shuttle buses (argh!) running there:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Florida_3.jpg

To borrow the words of a fellow Finnish trip reporter (and one who I admire a lot): I’ve seen plenty of airport terminals that are smaller than the FLL car rental facility:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Florida_4.jpg

Simply quite amazing. What is less amazing is the fact that I rented from Dollar since they were way, way cheaper than any of the competition. Well, what a surprise to see that all the other companies have almost no queues, but the Dollar one is long as a year without food (an old Finnish saying):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_3/Florida_5.jpg

I joke with some guys that this must be the reason why Dollar is the cheapest - they seem to agree with me (or maybe they just think I’m completely nuts and decide to go with the flow to avoid a nasty incident).

Progress is painfully slow - they do have quite a few agents working but processing every customer takes a long time. After half an hour of queuing I’m nearing the head and the duty manager appears from somewhere and explains that their “computer system is down - everything has to be done manually”, so that’s why it is taking so long.

Eventually it is my turn, and it turns out that it’s not really the computer system that’s down - instead it is their payment system so they need to do all the credit card slips by hand the old fashioned way. The friendly young fella manages to upsell me a CDW for an additional thirteen bucks with his stories of how much a wee little scratch could cost me (trust me, I know - a close encounter with a concrete pillar in a parking hall in Düsseldorf with my rented big ass Audi once cost me 650 EUR!). He is also amazed by my itinerary - he cannot really believe that I just flew in from Toronto (I decided not to mention the EWR stop...) and am continuing to D.C. in less than 12 hours... oh well mate, if you only knew, if you only knew...

They have quite a nice modus operandi here actually, after finishing with the paperwork he tells me I’m free to pick any car from the “Midsize” row. I decide on a nice Chrysler 200 - after all I’m not going to be driving some lame-ass Korean piece of junk in the US - heck American cars are the best!

My wheels:

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After a short fifteen minute drive and only taking a wrong turn once I arrive at my hotel, the Hyatt Place Fort Lauderdale Airport South (another mouthful) - my first time staying in any kind of Hyatt, thanks to scoring this on Priceline for under 60 EUR.

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I’m very impressed by the hotel room - huge, with a separate sitting/working area, a huge King bed and a large TV:

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The only weird thing is the washbasin which instead of being in the bathroom as usually is instead within a little alcove in the main room:

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Free toothpaste:

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View from my window - I guess Hyatt House is a long-term stay apartment kind of a place:

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A very nice idea - you can plug your laptop/IPad/whatever electronic device here to use the LCD TV as an external display:

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Of course there’s a free wifi and a pool (after all this is Florida) and there would also be a free breakfast in the morning, but not for me as I need to leave very early once again.

There’s one more place I need to visit before calling it a night:

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Yes - this is the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino - a huge development in the best American style - kinda entertaining actually even though not really my style (apart from the HRC bit):

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After a tour around the place, buying the obligatory T shirt and grabbing a very tasty burger for supper at Johnny Rockets I’m about to drop so decide to head back to the hotel - it’s been a very long day already.

A night cap from the bar downstairs, good night:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 13924 times:

Conclusions

This was my first experience with United (well, United Express operated by Colgan Air) - and it was pretty much what I expected it to be. Hit or miss crews (one nice, one jaded), minimal service, an okay plane and a horrible delay, but I that’s not really United’s fault as such. Still the Dash is a nice plane, this newish one was still in good condition and views flying down the NY State were great so I can’t really complain - I got exactly what I paid very little for. Kudos to that very pleasant and nice agent at YYZ for getting me on that earlier flight.

As for Jetblue - well I can honestly say I expected way more from them. After all they are some kind of a cool, hype airline so I assumed cabin interiors to match the coolness of Virgin America and young hip crews to match. Well, the reality was very different - the hard product was fine with a comfortable but old fashioned (and old feeling as well!) leather seat and excellent seat pitch and PTV with free Live TV. But that’s about it - the crew on my flight were mostly doing the bare minimum - nothing special and definitely not going the extra mile. Okay drinks selection in the inflight service but the snack part was a major disappointment - just tons of junk food and not really anything good. But this is America, so compared to the rival players I guess they are on par with the service and somewhat ahead with their hard product then!

The next part should cover my first flights with Delta up to Washington D.C. with the route of FLL-ATL-DCA and some impressions of D.C. Happy contrails!


User currently offlineDublinspotter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13709 times:

Hi

I really enjoyed your trip report, and a very good read as ever! I'm looking forward to the next one!
The seats on the Jetblue flight look quite comfortable.
Also United seem to have a nice product. I do like it how they put United against the Continental scheme, I really like that.
Toronto looks like a nice airport, was it passenger friendly? Very clean and modern looking!
Looking forward to you next read!

All the best,
Dublinspotter



Dublinspotter :)
User currently offlineIdeekay From Switzerland, joined Jun 2012, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13622 times:

Hey FlyingFinn,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

T1 is a very very impressive building - still as sparkling clean and immaculate as I remember it from seven years ago:

I think the man in the picture is saying it. WOW!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And what do I see outside:

Hey! I want also fly on that plane!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Props are great:

Not only the props, the whole aircraft looks pretty nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Eventually the captain comes on again and says what I had already figured out: “Bad news folks, ATC has issued a shutdown on all new departures towards Newark due to congestion in the area.”. Apparently we have a new departure time “48 minutes past the hour” - which is almost an hour from the current time. He explains that there’s really nothing we can do but just to hang on the frequency in the hope that an earlier slot might open up, but otherwise we will just shut down our engines and wait. This is promptly done.

I had something very similar, last year in RVN, the ATC was on strike and we had, I think 30 mins delay.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The lush, forested Ramako Mountains, part of the Appalachian chain - very beautiful looking:

Looks very nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
We dock to a jetway (yay, always a novelty with a turboprop!)

Isn't this very rare? I've had it in the past with some ATR's from Aero Airlines in HEL.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, the ubiquitous (and much hated by yours truly) dirty carpeting has made a return, in addition to inadequate seating, low ceilings and a general feeling of depression:

I think this carpets are standart

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
To me these appear to be exactly the same as the old Lufthansa seats.

How was your seat? They looks old again but I think also very softy.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
...which seems to be quite scratched though - also notice the ink, somebody has drawn on it with a pen:

Maybe he thought that you can use the PTV as a drawing board  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Wow, I didn’t know Fedex still had 727s flying around:

They have (36!) active 727-200F

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

I have to confess that these are no good at all - they taste weird and don’t have enough salt:

Pääh, they doesn't look very tasty

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wow, the second Beech of the day - wouldn’t mind flying this babe down to Key West for some Hemingwayesque action:

Cute little container.   

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My wheels:

You got a nice car

All in all, it was a good TR, I would have been love to fly the Dash 8Q-400 from "Ex-Continental-Airlines", maybe in 10 years, haha. I think Jetblue wasn't that good, but the service is quite good.

So see you next time standing in front of the white house.  


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 13403 times:

Hi P.,

great continuation about your Canadian/American adventure. Looks like you had two solid flights here, both Colgan and Jetblue, with crews being so and so. And nice to see some pictures of that Casino-HRC thing. Looks a bit like a mini Vegas, everything fake, but for sure interesting and fun.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
She offers to put me on a standby on the earlier flight, “As you have Gold status it won’t cost you anything”, after thinking for a microsecond I agree with her that yes, maybe we should do this.

Good service here. In the end it was good for you with all the delays.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Plenty of flights with Mapleflot:

Interesting to see that in Canada they also sort the FIDS after destination names like in the US and not chronologically. I always found it a bit confusing, but I guess it just takes getting used to it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, it is the dreaded “SSSS” - meaning the C(R)APPS software, probably the biggest and most expensive piece of vaporware ever has decided that I’m probably up to no good and should be given a cavity search at security.

Well, I guess you could have expected this with your itinerary. Obviously they don't have a "a.netter, crazy but harmless" category in their software   ... But at least your security screening didn't seem to be too bad, maybe just a bit more thorough than usual.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, looks like I’m back on a Colgan Air Dash instead of an Expressjet ERJ-145. Oh well, actually either one would do - both are new carriers for me and both interesting planes on their own account...

Hmm, for sure both interesting plane types, but I still would have preferred the E-145, it seems to me that there are far less opportunities to fly one than the Dash.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nice, a Beech 1900, I should really try again to catch a flight on that little bugger:

Naa, not nice... what an ugly looking plane, but then, I would like to fly one as well one day   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally - NYC (or rather Manhattan) skyline:

Yep, the only good thing about EWR, really nice views towards Manhatten, usually also spectacular to see on approach (too bad you were sitting on the other side this time)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Boy, what a difference this terminal is to the sparkling clean and new C one:

Yes, that looks more like how I remember EWR.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I am very surprised by the old fashionedness of the cabin and especially the seats:

But they look quite comfortable actually. And seat pitch looks good as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The spread is your usual junk food - I decide to try Jetblue’s signature Blue Potato Chips

Yuck, who came up with that idea? Straight out of the chemical plant. Looks terrible.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide on a nice Chrysler 200 - after all I’m not going to be driving some lame-ass Korean piece of junk in the US - heck American cars are the best!

Good choice, you are in America after all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The only weird thing is the washbasin which instead of being in the bathroom as usually is instead within a little alcove in the main room:

I remember that from many of the hotels or motels I stayed during my stays in the US. Must be rather common over there.

Thanks again for taking us with you on this trip  
CaptainRed


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13369 times:

Hey PetteriFinn76, nice report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is the third part of my Summer 2012 US Trip Report

You mean trip report series?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Eventually it is time to take a shower, pack up and head down to the reception.

What happened to "pack up your junk"?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but I decide not to bother my irritated seatmate more

Was he a DYKWIA?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
To me these appear to be exactly the same as the old Lufthansa seats.

No, the LH seats are different.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Maybe it’s just me, but for a hype company like Jetblue I’d expected something far more contemporary,

Well JetBlue are known to have a tendency to over escalate customer expectations, did a case study on them about the snow disaster in 2007. Nearly killed the airline.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, sorry for you but it is a federal requirement to have the seatbelts on for take off!

Now you start sounding like an american!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
heck American cars are the be

No, American cars are crap. Cheap build quality and poor economics.

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13195 times:

Hi there P.,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The middle aged Polish agent is extremely friendly and pleasant - after I say “To Newark, please” and hand over my passport she takes a look at it and says “Oh you’re Finnish - we Polish and you pronounce ‘Newark’ the same way - completely different than the Americans!”

Curious, how do Finns and Poles pronounce Newark? "New-Ark"? I think everyone outside the US says it like that...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, it is the dreaded “SSSS” - meaning the C(R)APPS software, probably the biggest and most expensive piece of vaporware ever has decided that I’m probably up to no good and should be given a cavity search at security.

Heathen European, one-way tickets, weird routings... You're lucky they allowed you through security at all. Lucky UA is as integrated with other carriers as this here walnut and this here wall.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
buy one-way tickets (simply genious: they buy one-way tickets, thus they are not planning to return but hijack the plane and fly it into the nearest Taco Bell instead!)

Brilliant, right? Although, no problems with my one-way tickets. Guess it's ok if you're also a Heathen American alongside Heathen European.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And that’s it - after the scanning I’m released to gather my stuff and put on my belt and shoes again - yeah, another thing I dislike about the security on this side of the pond is the strict “shoes off” rule.

No kidding--I always forget to take off my shoes after I return from Europe. People then ask me why I "hate" America. Well, I don't--but security is a big PITA so yeah, it gets me a bit mad.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, looks like I’m back on a Colgan Air Dash instead of an Expressjet ERJ-145. Oh well, actually either one would do - both are new carriers for me and both interesting planes on their own account...

Never flew the Dash but it's coming, later this summer. Well, it certainly looks nice. Not to mention how rare it is in the States because of the "weird spinny things" in front of the engines. Because everyone knows props crash every couple of flights. :p

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The lady is not really happy and it soon turns out into the usual “This is my first time of flying United since 1975 and I’m certainly not flying you guys again” -type of argument, the FA finally walks away and I could swear she’s trying hard to suppress her laughter.

Yeah, yeah, until UA has a $10 lower fare than the competition. The sense of entitlement I see in America is huge.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hello, US of A - no matter what clueless people might say you are still the greatest and most fun nation on earth, keep up the good work:

Yes, with the greatest airlines in the world, and the best public transportation in the world. Woot America!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My grumpy seatmate opts for a Bloody Mary - and I thought Americans had these old hypocritical attitudes towards alcohol

Nah, that's only 20% of the population, and they're ok with hypocrisy--it's not like it's a sin or anything, eh? 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“We will do better the next time, there are just too many planes flying into Newark, and with the high winds the ATC has to restrict the slots and stuff...” - WHAT? Yes, this is exactly what he said! I find it highly unprofessional for an airline pilot of all folks to use this kind of phrases - “and stuff” doesn’t belong in pilot announcements, period.

You're lucky he didn't say "slots and shit". I hear this kind of phrasing often, but never from a pilot, that's for sure!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A very disinterested purser is staring at us in the front galley, but not really greeting anyone. Nice welcome onboard. She has two colleagues, a very senior guy on the exit row who is the friendliest of the bunch and a younger guy in the back galley who is nice enough and does everything that is written down in his job description but don’t expect any smiles or genuine friendliness from him, no no.

Genuine friendliness, in America? You're in the wrong place if you're looking for genuine friendliness. Try the Bahamas, though. You'll find a lot there! Fake friendliness all around, though, in the States... I guess that's enough for some.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
While waiting for our take off tour I notice the girl (maybe 12 y.o.) sitting in front of me has her seatbelt hanging on the space between her seat and the plane’s wall. I tap her father’s (on the middle seat) shoulder and say “Excuse me sir, but I think your daughter’s seatbelt is open.”. They both thank me for this observation, but I think the father is a bit annoyed by me not just minding my own business. Well, sorry for you but it is a federal requirement to have the seatbelts on for take off! Quite bad for the crew not to notice this during their predeparture checks, though!

Oh no, I can vouch that the guy would indeed prefer you mind your own business. In fact, I'm surprised he didn't tell you to mind your own business.

Also, apparently, touching strangers is a big no-no in the USA.

I haven't travelled much outside Europe and the States but US flight attendants can be very disinterested. Then again, it's hard to see if 100 people all have seatbelts on. BTW, they tend to be more careful on landing for some reason.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I have to confess that these are no good at all - they taste weird and don’t have enough salt:

Well, looking at those, I'm glad I didn't get them on my JetBlue flight

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
FLL seems to be another crappy-looking airport with horrible carpeting and low ceilings (oh and lots of Florida tourists if you know what I mean):

Yes, yes it is. It was a bad experience for me. Particularly T3. Not sure which terminal B6 flies into, though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
But that’s about it - the crew on my flight were mostly doing the bare minimum - nothing special and definitely not going the extra mile. Okay drinks selection in the inflight service but the snack part was a major disappointment - just tons of junk food and not really anything good. But this is America, so compared to the rival players I guess they are on par with the service and somewhat ahead with their hard product then!

Welcome to America, P! This is what I have to put up with when I fly domestic... And B6 is one of the better airlines.

Are you then surprised that only about 3 or 4 Americans still enjoy air travel?

Thanks for sharing P, great report! Always enjoy reading your TRs.

BTW

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, and once again I have to give my Florida hotel’s address - this is now the third time it’s been entered into various systems, well it’s not like you are in the same alliance or anything!

UA is integrated with other Star carriers horribly if you ask me. In fact, I won't fly UA unless the whole itinerary is UA (or the ticket is issued by AF/KL). Otherwise I simply don't trust them to get me to my destination. It took them 3 hours to rebook my mother and me in 2000 because their 727 flight was delayed and we missed the connection. They didn't really want to help.


User currently offlinelufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13172 times:

P, you should try the ex-jetblue 320s now with Zest Air. PTV holes have plastic sheets glued over them and pen markings and phrases you see in a dirty public toilet written on the tired leather.

They look the same as LH fixed old seats in the back but can confirm they're not.



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User currently offlineDLBOIFIN From Finland, joined Jun 2006, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13051 times:

Hi,

Great report again! I have to say, I really like Jetblue, they have the best onboard coach product in the US; great legroom, free snacks and live tv. On the legacy carriers you really don't get these amenities. Looking forward to see the next part of your report.

DLBF


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1243 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12986 times:

Yet another good read there.

Must of been nearly 13 years since i was last in EWR and it doesn't look like its changed one bit!



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17322 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12952 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And there’s the city of Ithaca - I’ve always wanted to go there just because of that cool name:

Ithaca is gorges! And pretty hard to beat in the Summer.



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3200 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12498 times:

Nice to see another part out of your amazing USA trip!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Oh you’re Finnish - we Polish and you pronounce ‘Newark’ the same way - completely different than the Americans!” and smiles at me - somehow I just knew I had found a gem of an agent here!

How do Finns pronounce it then? You know the original Newark is in England?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“As you have Gold status it won’t cost you anything”

It's great (but also bad for profits) to do this sort of thing. Flying AA last summer I was planning on standing-by for free on the earlier SAN-LAX flight. BA laughed be out of check in when I asked for an earlier LHR-ARN flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, it is the dreaded “SSSS” - meaning the C(R)APPS software, probably the biggest and most expensive piece of vaporware ever has decided that I’m probably up to no good and should be given a cavity search at security. Sweet. Probably my multi-carrier ticket flying in and out of different airports at NYC with the long stopover at Toronto appears as a dangerous one-way ticket to that piece of crap software, whose biggest achievement is giving people who pay cash for their tickets (see, they don’t want to be traced) and buy one-way tickets (simply genious: they buy one-way tickets, thus they are not planning to return but hijack the plane and fly it into the nearest Taco Bell instead!) a hard time.

I was surprised I didn't get a SSSS on my one way SAN-LAX-DFW-SJD flight last year...a dodge itinerary if I ever saw one!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the strict “shoes off” rule.

So pointless

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
- “Ok, this will do. Stand aside sir and I will call you if you get a seat.”

I hate their use of "sir"...you know they want to use a "slightly less polite" word instead!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Not sure what that overbooking talk was about as there are plenty of empty seats on this plane, the load must be a little over 50% by the look of things.

Same as my CMN-LIS flight in Jan. All sold out on the GDS, but actual load around 30%

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Bad news folks, ATC has issued a shutdown on all new departures towards Newark due to congestion in the area.”.

Time I think for the Americans to fly slightly larger plane a little less often. No need for these little planes every 10 minutes.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The previous day’s G&M featured a story piece on these new twisty skyscrapers, nice coincidence:

THey look cool

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Here’s Middletown, NY - another lovely name:

You mean another "um, what should we call this bland town in the middle of nowhere....I know, Middletown!". Isuppose it's better they do this than steal yet another UK place name

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Of course there’s something for free as well, just look at the number of Registered Trademarks there - that’s Corporate America for you:

I 'love' how they use Dunkin' Donuts (man, I hate that spelling) as their "coffee".Is that the best they could find?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

While waiting for our take off tour I notice the girl (maybe 12 y.o.) sitting in front of me has her seatbelt hanging on the space between her seat and the plane’s wall. I tap her father’s (on the middle seat) shoulder and say “Excuse me sir, but I think your daughter’s seatbelt is open.”. They both thank me for this observation, but I think the father is a bit annoyed by me not just minding my own business.

I'm surprised you said anything...I'd have been to scard they they were a member of the NRA or something

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Simply quite amazing. What is less amazing is the fact that I rented from Dollar since they were way, way cheaper than any of the competition. Well, what a surprise to see that all the other companies have almost no queues, but the Dollar one is long as a year without food (an old Finnish saying):

My, thats a long queue

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They have quite a nice modus operandi here actually, after finishing with the paperwork he tells me I’m free to pick any car from the “Midsize” row. I decide on a nice Chrysler 200 - after all I’m not going to be driving some lame-ass Korean piece of junk in the US - heck American cars are the best!

Whilst I disagree on your "USA is the greatest" spiel, I did love driving that Hummer around Jordan! Not great for the planet, but kick ass at wadi-bashing!



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User currently offlineont2cgi From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12460 times:

I used to think LAX was a dump. Then I flew to EWR and terminal "A"  
Thanks fo writing


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12454 times:

Hey P nice report and pics . Nice to follow you along your trip.

Looking forward to the next part.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineTigerguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12387 times:

Hello there; this was another enjoyable read. I saw your photos of EWR and remember the same depressing atmosphere when I was there. It seems that all three NY airports have a spot or two that just fails to impress. Also...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
As for Jetblue - well I can honestly say I expected way more from them.

I had the opportunity to fly Jeblue for the first time a month ago, and you're spot on with this. I was very surprised to see that the inside wasn't anything special. Not that every airplane interior has to be special, but the walk didn't match the talk. I also opted for the blue chips--meh. Though they do a lot of things nicely, they have a ways to go to match the image they've built in my mind. (And I'm sure a strongly-worded letter from me will get them right on it!)

Incidentally, you should be able to read about some of my experiences over the next few days. I'll be looking forward to more of your reports as well.



On the occasion of United overtaking Frontier as my most-flown airline, I say...let's get friendly.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12159 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Thanks for a great continuation of this series with another very nice report with very nice pictures.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, looks like I’m back on a Colgan Air Dash instead of an Expressjet ERJ-145. Oh well, actually either one would do - both are new carriers for me and both interesting planes on their own account...

Expressjet (XE) was merged into Atlantic Southeast Airlines (EV) early this year or late last year. The planes look pretty much the same though....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Test is performed, this time the brand is Seagram’s - not my favorite one by a long shot:

Scheweppes is the best; Seagram's not very good....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
heck American cars are the best!

I have to disagree with that; I LOVE my Honda Civic. Very reliable and great gas mileage too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
This was my first experience with United (well, United Express operated by Colgan Air) - and it was pretty much what I expected it to be. Hit or miss crews (one nice, one jaded), minimal service, an okay plane and a horrible delay, but I that’s not really United’s fault as such. Still the Dash is a nice plane, this newish one was still in good condition and views flying down the NY State were great so I can’t really complain - I got exactly what I paid very little for. Kudos to that very pleasant and nice agent at YYZ for getting me on that earlier flight.

Colgan Air is really a different carrier than United but not much any carrier can do about ATC delays into EWR. The ground staff at YYZ is most likely all UA employees.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
s for Jetblue - well I can honestly say I expected way more from them.

I think JetBlue was really hip and "in" carrier ten years ago but have not changed at all since then. Like you said, Virgin America is probably much better. I have yet to try either carrier out.

Looking forward to your next part !

The777Man



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User currently offlinejcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12151 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Keuka Lake, part of the Finger Lakes (thanks to the Airtran inflight mag where I not only found out what they are called but also learned that this is actually a wine producing region - I had no idea NY State had wineries! But as Jonas says it, reading airline magazines is as pointless as eating anywhere else than McDonald’s or actually paying money for anything) in upstate New York:

My uncle's summer house located on the western shore of Keuka. There are tons of wineries in the region which mostly produce a German-style Riesling. Interestingly, there are also a lot of Pennsylvania Dutch/Amish and old-order Mennonite communities around as well. It is absolutely beautiful in the summer.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is the interestingly named village of Penn Yan at the end of the western branch of the aforementioned lake:

... the closest thing to civilization you'll find close to Keuka Lake.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, not much I can do about it so I head into immigration. Flying to the US from Canada is very nice as they have the same kind of US preclearance facilities as Ireland does, so basically you are processed and enter the US virtually already in Canada, making your arrival very straightforward as you are treated as a domestic passenger). This process is very smooth - no one in queue and the agent is quite friendly, unlike many of the US immigration people I’ve met before. Oh and his last name is Kowalski, so the Polish theme seems to continue here! The usual questions of who I am, what do I do for living and what and how long I’m in the US for and the fingerprint scan later I’m wished a nice visit and send off on my merry way.

I had my worst experience with US customs at YWG which was connecting to my flight to ORD, I had a thirty minute connection and ran to a hot bus on a hot day in Toronto. When I hit the preclearance area, I was sweaty and was nervous about the connection -- and just need to get through quickly. Of course, I got pulled for a secondary screening. Basically I got everything but the full cavity search. The agents were a bunch assholes. "Why are you sweaty?" "Well, I had to run to catch the bus, and it's a hot day." "Really? What are you trying do here? Are you smuggling?" Uhh yeah, a 22 year old college student with a valid college ID is trying to sneak drugs into the US. That's it. The 40-something businesswoman across from me was also getting the "full monty" and sobbing.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
my first time staying in any kind of Hyatt, thanks to scoring this on Priceline for under 60 EUR.

I'm always pumped when I get a Hyatt Place on Priceline when I'm traveling on leisure. It really blows Courtyard/Residence Inn or Hampton Inn out of the water. It's a shame my company has an ironclad contract with Hilton.

I hope you enjoyed your time in the States and New York.  Smile

[Edited 2012-06-30 20:33:45]


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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11937 times:

Hey P., great report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, looks like I’m back on a Colgan Air Dash instead of an Expressjet ERJ-145. Oh well, actually either one would do - both are new carriers for me and both interesting planes on their own account...
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Not sure what that overbooking talk was about as there are plenty of empty seats on this plane, the load must be a little over 50% by the look of things.

Missconnecting passengers? No shows? Quite a common occurence in the USA I think

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Let the Blue Times Roll”

Would've been a nice title for the tripreport also.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
have you ever noticed how a jetway at EWR looks just like a jetway anywhere else in the world:

Haha... not everything in the US is bigger or better then elsewhere   Only the burgers, I think.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11895 times:

Hi P.,

interesting next part of your USA series. Good to see you enjoyed your time there, including the SSSS check.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Props are great:

Only if you don't have an engine next to your window...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As on most of domestic US flights these days the service is a drinks run with free soft drinks - another Ginger Ale Test is performed, this time the brand is Seagram’s - not my favorite one by a long shot:

Nothing beats Schweppes Dry Ginger Ale.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Maybe it’s just me, but for a hype company like Jetblue I’d expected something far more contemporary, along the lines of Virgin America perhaps. Legroom at least is great:

What do you expect? JetBlue offers great legroom, PTVs with map and free TV channels FLEETWIDE and free snacks and drinks. Compare that to the rest of the players in the market. Virgin America is much smaller which makes is much easier to adjust the product. B6 operates almost 180 planes, VA just over 50.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wow, I didn’t know Fedex still had 727s flying around:

No less than 39 frames to be exact. But they are quickly being replaced by 757s (already 52 frames in the fleet!).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I have to confess that these are no good at all - they taste weird and don’t have enough salt:

I have always liked them - but our tastes are different in many cases.  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
Well JetBlue are known to have a tendency to over escalate customer expectations, did a case study on them about the snow disaster in 2007.


And numerous US carriers have a tendency to disppoint even if you don't expect anything. B6 learned a lesson from the snow disaster. It's a great carrier, one of my favorites in the country.


PH



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11849 times:

Hey, P.,

good to follow more around you´re summer trip to the US story.
Well done and also nice pictures.
And also good that you made all you´re flights despite SSSS and delays.
Looking for more you know.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11820 times:

Hello FF!

Nice report again!
Seems like you had a nice couple of flights on the legacy-express and the LCC!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
T1 is a very very impressive building - still as sparkling clean and immaculate as I remember it from seven years ago:

Wow, that check-in hall does indeed look very clean, nice and modern. Love the high ceiling and the natural light.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Oh, speaking of my original flight I think this is it - just arrived in the penalty box. No, it doesn’t appear to be running late but who knows how long it will stand here:

I bet you were quite happy to be taxiing to the runway at that time?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Boy, what a difference this terminal is to the sparkling clean and new C one:

Yeah, that one is exactly like Terminal B, which SAS use. Not a pleasant terminal at all, really.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
To borrow the words of a fellow Finnish trip reporter (and one who I admire a lot): I’ve seen plenty of airport terminals that are smaller than the FLL car rental facility:

Wow, it could just as well be a check in hall, very impressive! And again the expression "everything is bigger in America" is proven to be correct!  

Martin


User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4240 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11410 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Okay drinks selection in the inflight service but the snack part was a major disappointment - just tons of junk food and not really anything good. But this is America, so compared to the rival players I guess they are on par with the service and somewhat ahead with their hard product then!
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I have to confess that these are no good at all - they taste weird and don’t have enough salt:
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
Yuck, who came up with that idea? Straight out of the chemical plant. Looks terrible.

The blue chips are naturally that color, so they are not 'out of a chemical plant!' I also find them a little bland but they don't have a lot of salt so I don't mind them. Goodness knows we all get too much salt in our diet as it is. But I think B6's snack offering has become worse over the years...

As for the service, it is a sad reality that service on the US airlines still lags behind many other airlines, at least domestically. I have found B6 to be hit or miss, with occasionally a very good, lively crew and rarely a really bad crew. That may sound like faint praise but compare to the other airlines. My last flight on a legacy carrier (last week!) saw the flight attendants serve drinks from the cart and then disappear behind the aft curtain for literally the rest of the flight! It might not be worlds better on Jetblue but at least the legroom is decent and the tvs/satellite radio free at every seat help pass some of the time. There are not many airlines that can say that. It does have to be said, however, that I agree with FlyingFinn 100% about B6's lousy moving map with outdated graphics and far too many captive advertisements.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
I 'love' how they use Dunkin' Donuts (man, I hate that spelling) as their "coffee".Is that the best they could find?

Love or hate the coffee but Dunkin Donuts is one of the east coast's biggest brands for good coffee. They position themselves as a sort of blue-collar Starbucks. I'm not crazy about all of their other drinks, or even their donuts for that matter, but I've heard from a lot of people that their coffee isn't bad. Especially given they run about half the cost of those upscale coffee houses.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
I'm surprised you said anything...I'd have been to scard they they were a member of the NRA or something

You're kidding, right??



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11175 times:

Hi guys,

Lovely to see so many comments, thank you very much for them! And as always, keep 'em coming.

Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 3):
Also United seem to have a nice product. I do like it how they put United against the Continental scheme, I really like that.

Well I'd rather seen them continue as two separate airlines but maybe that's just me. Never had a chance to fly with CO, but I understood they had quite nice service and kept offering free meals in economy far longer than the other airlines.

Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 3):
Toronto looks like a nice airport, was it passenger friendly? Very clean and modern looking!

Yeah, it's quite friendly apart from the security hassle. When I flew out of there internally seven years ago they still had the horrible midfield terminal shack for international flights where you had to take a shuttle bus to/from because the international part of T1 was not ready, but I think that hasn't been the case for many years any more.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 4):
I had something very similar, last year in RVN, the ATC was on strike and we had, I think 30 mins delay.

RVN of all places, hah. Well ATC delays are nothing new in places with congested airspace, although they are in Finland  . I guess you are more likely to catch a strike here - Mediterranean style  .

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 4):
Isn't this very rare? I've had it in the past with some ATR's from Aero Airlines in HEL.

Yeah, usually jetways don't go low enough for turboprops nor most regional jets, but in America they for one reason or another shun bus boardings and even walking on the apron so at many airports they have these special low commuter jetways that can accommodate most small planes.

As for the ATRs - the ex-Karair/Finnair/Aero ATRs are the only ATRs in the world which have a (passenger) door in the front - it was an original requirement by KR in order for the planes to be able to use jetways at HEL. Very easy to spot these ex-frames due to the front passenger door - I flew with a JU one last year for example. Oh and the one that crashed with UTAir in Russia earlier this year was also an ex-AY bird.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 4):
How was your seat? They looks old again but I think also very softy.

Quite fine, yes it was worn but in a good way, kinda like a good old leather lazy chair in your living room which looks horribly worn and old but is just so darn comfortable. Soft is good.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 4):
Maybe he thought that you can use the PTV as a drawing board  

Must be the influence of the Ipads and all other touch screen devices!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
And nice to see some pictures of that Casino-HRC thing. Looks a bit like a mini Vegas, everything fake, but for sure interesting and fun.

Yeah, a good insight into the way what many people expect from Florida.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
Interesting to see that in Canada they also sort the FIDS after destination names like in the US and not chronologically. I always found it a bit confusing, but I guess it just takes getting used to it.

Hah, I thought exactly the same. Very confusing, but it is just a matter of getting used to it. I bet Americans find the European displays just as confusing having been used to these.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
But at least your security screening didn't seem to be too bad, maybe just a bit more thorough than usual.

Yes, I was afraid it would be much more with a third degree interrogation and stuff but luckily not.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
Yep, the only good thing about EWR, really nice views towards Manhatten, usually also spectacular to see on approach (too bad you were sitting on the other side this time)

Well as I said we landed from the west so even then the views would've been kinda limited. It's the 22s that offer the best views.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 5):
I remember that from many of the hotels or motels I stayed during my stays in the US. Must be rather common over there.

Oh, never had this in the US, but in some other places instead.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
You mean trip report series?

No, not really. I define a trip to be happening between me leaving home and coming back there, so in that context this is just one big trip report split into different parts. My "* Blue" series is a textbook example of a trip report *series*.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
What happened to "pack up your junk"?

Jonas, always commenting on the subject at hand.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
Was he a DYKWIA?

No.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
No, the LH seats are different.

Yes, slightly. But they look a lot like these.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
No, American cars are crap. Cheap build quality and poor economics.

And how many have you driven? There are two nations that IMHO can make cars: Germany and the US.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Curious, how do Finns and Poles pronounce Newark? "New-Ark"? I think everyone outside the US says it like that...
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
How do Finns pronounce it then?

No, it's more like hmm, kinda hard to explain in writing, but more like "Nev-ark" where "Nev" is pronounced like the beginning of "never". Or at least that's how I pronounce it.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
No kidding--I always forget to take off my shoes after I return from Europe. People then ask me why I "hate" America. Well, I don't--but security is a big PITA so yeah, it gets me a bit mad.

I'm with you here. The TSA and the whole security rigmarole can be very frustrating. I will write more about it in my last part, but basically what gets me is that it seems to be unnecessary complicated and the way the passengers are all treated as potential terrorists, trouble makers or at least mindless cattle.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Well, it certainly looks nice. Not to mention how rare it is in the States because of the "weird spinny things" in front of the engines. Because everyone knows props crash every couple of flights. :p

Hah, I know someone who refers to turboprops as "Flying lawnmowers"  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
You're lucky he didn't say "slots and shit". I hear this kind of phrasing often, but never from a pilot, that's for sure!

Yeah, casual conversation is one thing, but IMHO the pilots of your plane are still figures of authority and should act and speak in that sense.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Also, apparently, touching strangers is a big no-no in the USA.

Yes, I was a bit afraid of this as well but I couldn't really get their attention any way.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Yes, yes it is. It was a bad experience for me. Particularly T3. Not sure which terminal B6 flies into, though.

T3 it is!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
UA is integrated with other Star carriers horribly if you ask me. In fact, I won't fly UA unless the whole itinerary is UA (or the ticket is issued by AF/KL). Otherwise I simply don't trust them to get me to my destination. It took them 3 hours to rebook my mother and me in 2000 because their 727 flight was delayed and we missed the connection. They didn't really want to help.

Yeah, as they say - the true nature of the airline can only be seen in the case of IRROPS and other issues. Looks like UA failed in this sense big time for you. As for the alliance integration it is not just UA, most alliances and airlines in them seem to have a lot of issues with incompatible systems etc. I think you have a point there, SkyTeam seems to have the best systems there, but this is just a personal hunch.

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 8):
P, you should try the ex-jetblue 320s now with Zest Air. PTV holes have plastic sheets glued over them and pen markings and phrases you see in a dirty public toilet written on the tired leather.

Ugh. Sounds like the definitive low cost experience then! I didn't know B6 was already retiring their Airbuses, though.

Quoting DLBOIFIN (Reply 9):
Great report again! I have to say, I really like Jetblue, they have the best onboard coach product in the US; great legroom, free snacks and live tv. On the legacy carriers you really don't get these amenities.

Well, on domestic US flights I've flown AA, Southwest, Virgin America, Delta, Alaska, Jetblue and Airtran, and well United Express no as well I guess. B6 definitely goes to the top three of these, although Virgin is ahead of them and based on the three flights I had with them on this trip I really liked Delta as well. I think the key here is that when you have some status with an airline or alliance, the US airlines are the best to recognize it, far ahead of their European counterparts. Things like priority boarding, select seating, free upgrades etc. just work automatically, not like in Europe where a simple priority boarding is often either not done or impossible because of gate lice blocking the way. Just being a mere silver on AY back in the days made a lot of difference on AA with high boarding priority and I think it also contributed to flying 4 AA transatlantics with an empty seat next to me... Similar experiences with DL, but you will have to wait until the next part for those!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
You know the original Newark is in England?

No, I didn't. But that doesn't really surprise me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
It's great (but also bad for profits) to do this sort of thing. Flying AA last summer I was planning on standing-by for free on the earlier SAN-LAX flight. BA laughed be out of check in when I asked for an earlier LHR-ARN flight.

Yeah, this is one of the differences between American and European airlines. In not too distant past you could even stand by (for free) for a non-stop flight when you were flying via a connecting point (which you usually did because of a cheaper ticket). Flyertalk used to be full of messages tot he tune of "I asked BA to put me on an earlier flight instead of my original flight 5 hours later. They refused. So I sat in their lounge for 5 hours, eating and drinking at their expense - why couldn't they do it as I'm sure I cost more them this way??". Also the free upgrades to First are nice, but have a very nasty downside.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
I was surprised I didn't get a SSSS on my one way SAN-LAX-DFW-SJD flight last year...a dodge itinerary if I ever saw one!

Well who knows how that CAPPS software actually determines your "threat level".

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
Same as my CMN-LIS flight in Jan. All sold out on the GDS, but actual load around 30%

Lots of no shows then. Maybe people who couldn't get visas or something.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
Time I think for the Americans to fly slightly larger plane a little less often. No need for these little planes every 10 minutes.

Yeah, on many occasions that would help. But I guess they want to offer people short connections instead of hanging out at the airport for hours - and having now seen a bunch of these east coast airports I don't really blame them - not exactly great places to spend any more time than absolutely necessary (with certain exceptions, of course!).

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
You mean another "um, what should we call this bland town in the middle of nowhere....I know, Middletown!". Isuppose it's better they do this than steal yet another UK place name

Well, have you ever thought about where all those people originally came from?  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
I 'love' how they use Dunkin' Donuts (man, I hate that spelling) as their "coffee".Is that the best they could find?

I guess that was who offered the sweetest deal for them!

Quoting Reply 13):
I used to think LAX was a dump. Then I flew to EWR and terminal "A"  

Haha, spot on!

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 15):
Hello there; this was another enjoyable read. I saw your photos of EWR and remember the same depressing atmosphere when I was there. It seems that all three NY airports have a spot or two that just fails to impress. Also...

Thanks. Well they are old airports, all built decades ago and very heavily used - that kind of thing wears a place down and makes it hard to invest in upgrading the facilities when you still have an airport to run, planes to turnaround and passengers to process. Terminal C at EWR looked very nice, as does for example the AA terminal at JFK.

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 15):
I had the opportunity to fly Jeblue for the first time a month ago, and you're spot on with this. I was very surprised to see that the inside wasn't anything special. Not that every airplane interior has to be special, but the walk didn't match the talk.

Yeah, I'm here with you.

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 15):
Incidentally, you should be able to read about some of my experiences over the next few days. I'll be looking forward to more of your reports as well.

Oh, that sounds interesting then!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Expressjet (XE) was merged into Atlantic Southeast Airlines (EV) early this year or late last year. The planes look pretty much the same though....

Oh yeah, I remember reading about this some time ago.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
I think JetBlue was really hip and "in" carrier ten years ago but have not changed at all since then. Like you said, Virgin America is probably much better. I have yet to try either carrier out.

Good point. I didn't really think that they were that "old" already. Ten years is a long time in the airline industry.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 17):
Interestingly, there are also a lot of Pennsylvania Dutch/Amish and old-order Mennonite communities around as well. It is absolutely beautiful in the summer.

Hey, very nice to learn more about this. Another place to put up on the "if I only had all the time on the world and won the lottery" list..  
Quoting jcs17 (Reply 17):
Uhh yeah, a 22 year old college student with a valid college ID is trying to sneak drugs into the US. That's it. The 40-something businesswoman across from me was also getting the "full monty" and sobbing.

That sounds horrible! Wonder if they all were just having a very bad day or this is the way it always goes at YWG?

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 17):
I'm always pumped when I get a Hyatt Place on Priceline when I'm traveling on leisure. It really blows Courtyard/Residence Inn or Hampton Inn out of the water. It's a shame my company has an ironclad contract with Hilton.

Yeah, I was very impressed by the concept, that property and my top notch room. Even the normal prices for it aren't that expensive, so I'll keep an eye on these places for my subsequent travels. Hope they'd bring the concept to Europe some day.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 17):
I hope you enjoyed your time in the States and New York.  

Sure did, although not much New York for me  .

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 18):
Missconnecting passengers? No shows? Quite a common occurence in the USA I think

Yeah, must've been something like this plus probably people standing by for the earlier flight in the fear of connections creating a snowball effect.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 18):
Would've been a nice title for the tripreport also.

Hey, a very nice idea! Too long to fit in the subject field though!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 18):
Haha... not everything in the US is bigger or better then elsewhere   Only the burgers, I think.

And plenty of other things!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
interesting next part of your USA series. Good to see you enjoyed your time there, including the SSSS check.  

Yep, it wasn't as bad as I was afraid of, lucky me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
What do you expect? JetBlue offers great legroom, PTVs with map and free TV channels FLEETWIDE and free snacks and drinks.

Well the worn and old fashioned cabin interior mostly, but like Lars pointed out they are already ten+ years old. All the above are fine, although the PTV map isn't very useful IMHO, but I think it would be a time for a cabin makeover with new seats.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
B6 operates almost 180 planes, VA just over 50.

Wow, I didn't realize VA had such a large fleet already, considering that they don't operate that many routes. But distances in America are a bit different so I guess you need a larger fleet just to keep up many daily frequencies.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
I have always liked them - but our tastes are different in many cases.  

Yes, they are.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
And numerous US carriers have a tendency to disppoint even if you don't expect anything. B6 learned a lesson from the snow disaster. It's a great carrier, one of my favorites in the country.

Delta impressed me more on this trip. I also liked Virgin America more.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11023 times:

I flew B6 for the first time this past Christmas from EWR-FLL, yes Terminal A at EWR is horrible. The Port Authority is going to replace it soon, also the B6 terminal at FLL was just as bad if not worse. I couldn't get over that the rental car facility at FLL was so much nicer than the terminals.

Good report and photos, it's got me excited to travel.



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25 Post contains images KingFriday013 : What an interesting trip you had! ATC delays are never fun, but I think its funny the other lady crumpled her juice can The airport at FLL looks just
26 richierich : JetBlue is not retiring their older A320s - they sold some off during the second half of the past decade (which were replaced by incoming new aircraf
27 N766UA : Gravel or sand pile covered by a colored tarp to keep it dry.
28 SRQKEF : Hi P., Great report! UAX looks fine for a regional plane. I was supposed to fly one of their Q400s from YYZ to IAH last April but changed to a QK CRJ,
29 Post contains images sultanils : Hi there Petteriski, I finally managed to find some time to comment on this nice and well-written piece covering some domestic flying in the US. A goo
30 Post contains images eicvd : Hi FlyingFinn Really enjoyed reading your latest series of reports. Those pics of the NY skyline have me thinking of my trip there in November now. Be
31 richierich : Still better than almost all other domestic US airlines! What do you get on an AA transcon? Except that Blue Chips have been around since the first f
32 Post contains images MH017 : Great TR again, P. !!! Wow, sofar you've experienced fantastic flying weather conditions, giving you great views of Canada as well as the Eastern US s
33 WA707atMSP : Thank you for another great trip report! Try visiting DL's terminals at JFK if you want to see what a truly dreadful airport terminal looks like! It's
34 roberts87 : Nice report as usual! Too bad your Jetblue flight wasn't as good as expected. My flight with them (JFK-FLL, so pretty similair) seemed better, friendl
35 Post contains images dkdaviator : Hello FF, That is a nice continuation of your series there, making your way from Toronto down to Mickey Mouse territory. yep, have had similar experie
36 Post contains images jcs17 : Awww, you dislike New York, but love Toronto? I always joke with my Toronto colleagues that TO is essentially NYC if Disney was running the place. I'
37 MSS658 : Hey Petteri Good to see part 3 online as well, a few conclusions as well. YYZ airport is actually my favorite N.American airport I've been in. Very op
38 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi all, Good to see so many comments online, thank you very much! Good to hear, it is about time for it to be demolished! Heh, good point there, it in
39 Post contains images AYA333 : Interesting flights again, P! Plus the report was enjoyable also! Oh, then there is two of us! Not matching with the image of that company! Looks cool
40 BA319-131 : Great read P, really enjoyed! - Yep, that's a good price IMO. - Interesting, never had that problem or question asked when flying in the states before
41 lychemsa : JETBLUE is better than the main airlines like AA, UNITED. Enjoyed your report except for political comments which are unecessary.
42 spacecadet : Didn't they used to be made of corn? I always thought they were blue corn chips, and the first time I had them was in the dark on a night flight so I
43 Post contains images signol : Hi FF, Just starting to catch up now with reports - I've been looking forward to continuing your series, and it doesn't disappoint. Unlucky. Fortunate
44 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi guys, lovely to see more comments. Sorry for the belated reply, life's been busy. Thanks, mate. The whole of South Florida is a very surreal place.
45 Post contains images infodesk : Hi P, Good to read the latest installment. You certainly are being kept on your toes at the moment - what after the BRU disaster now the SSSS incident
46 adamspotter : Hi FlyingFinn, Great and entertaining addition to your USA trip. The U S of A is definetly my favorite country but getting in there can be such a hass
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