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Flying In OZ On A Virgin Kangaroo - SYD-MEL-ADL  
User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Posted (2 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 13486 times:

Introduction



This is the second part of my trip report series of my trip to Australia in June 2012. For part 1 on Scoot, please refer to -

Get Outta Here! With SCOOTitude - Down Under! (by Initious Jun 28 2012 in Trip Reports)

Qantas - Australia's flag carrier. It is the second oldest airline in the world at 91 years old (going 92 this November!). It was founded in Winton, Queensland on 16 November 1920 as Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services and it initially operated air mail services subsidised by the Australian government. The airline's first international venture was to Singapore from Darwin in May 1935 and since then it has served Singapore with it being the largest international airline operating here in present times in terms of passengers served.

Adorned by a jumping kangaroo, the airline has kept this iconic logo ever since it has been launched in 1944 which is the national animal of Australia. Despite being plagued by union issues and maintenance problems on planes, the airline remains one of the safest in the world with no fatalities onboard any Qantas jet due to an accident or incident.



Virgin Australia, Australia's second largest airline was formed back in 2000 (as Virgin Blue) as another brainchild of Sir Richard Branson famous for founding Virgin Atlantic based in the United Kingdom. In 2011, the airline decided to go for a rebranding and named the airline Virgin Australia with the long haul subsidiary V Australia absorbed into the airline. It also introduced coast to coast flights on the Airbus A330-200 to compete with Qantas.

My intention of making a detour was to log both Qantas and Virgin Australia into my logbooks along with Melbourne Airport. To add icing on the cake, I would also log the Boeing 767-300ER and Embraer E190, both of which I had never been on.

Pre-Flight




I arrived into Sydney on Scoot which was just an average flight. Having read online beforehand that I would have to take a bus or a train between the domestic and international terminals in SYD, I opted for the bus which was the cheaper option. As the T Bus approached the bus stop, I stepped on to be greeted by a very kind female bus driver.

"Good afternoon, are you going to Terminal 2?"
"Um, I am flying Qantas..."
"May I know where you are flying to?"
"Melbourne"
"Ah, you may enter the terminal and turn left. There will be a Qantas domestic check-in available and they will transfer you to the domestic terminal for free"
"Thank you!"
"You're most welcomed!"

This was when I started to fall in love with Australia. Other than this kind lady, I have met countless kind Australians. Surprisingly, I have not met any rude Australians in my short 3-day stay there be it in Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide.

I walked to the Qantas domestic check-in to be greeted by yet another kind lady who checked me in at the empty check-in desks. My boarding pass was printed and given to me within a minute and I was on my way to the bus to the domestic terminal. However, I had to pass through security before that. The people there were pretty kind but were kind of strict in even letting my watch or belt pass through so I had to take everything off. As I was packing, another security officer let me know that he has held the bus for me so that I do not need to wait for the next bus which is 10-15 minutes later. Thumbs up for Australians and Qantas!

The transfer bus for Qantas was a standard coach but with the Qantas livery. I must say even a bus looks beautiful in the Qantas livery! To add icing to the cake, this bus goes through the tarmac instead of driving on main public roads like the T Bus. Needless to say, a fairly empty bus, an a.netter and a camera is enough to make things crazy!


Close-up with jumbo jets...


Or maybe even a visitor from halfway around the world! I saw this plane back in SIN yesterday while spotting before my flight


An even bigger one shows up!


No question who's the boss!


The beautiful Qantas bus


We reached the domestic terminal in around 7-8 minutes, ending my crazy streak of taking pictures of planes non-stop. The other passengers must have thought I was nuts or something! As I stepped into the domestic terminal, I had a very comfortable feeling. It felt like I belong right here. The atmosphere was cosy, as with the decorations and furnishings. As I had lots of time to spare, I decided to head up to the Qantas Heritage Gallery to see what is there in store for me.


Nice and cosy domestic terminal


Pre-spotting


Reaching soon!


It was not a long walk and soon I reached the Qantas Heritage Gallery. It was a pretty informative gallery showing the history of Qantas, the past and present aircraft and even the uniforms. Walking through, I found a wonderful spot for something that a.netters would love. What is it? Let the pictures tell you!


Unstaffed main counter


Qantas uniforms through the years


Qantas Boeing 747-400


Aircalin Airbus A320-200 bound for NOU as SB 141


Air Pacific Boeing 747-400 bound for NAN as FJ 910. My first attempt at panning!


Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 landing


Dubai Air Wing Boeing 747-400F rolling down runway 16R. This aircraft was spotted in SIN just a few weeks back


United Airlines new scheme, presumably on a long haul to the States


An aircraft I'll be on in a few hours, sadly not on this exact one though. A Qantas Boeing 767-300ER rolling down runway 16R


Now for the beauty - A Virgin Australia Boeing 777-300ER!


Not forgetting some treats from the Asian side! A Cathay Pacific Airbus A330-300 heading back for HKG


Yes, we're in Australia. Here seeing another Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 landing


Good day neighbour. A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 747-400 rolling off for KUL


As I was clicking away, an elderly man, which I later knew him as Mr. John, approached me and asked if I was taking pictures of planes. I explained my love of aviation to him and he was pretty glad to have someone who loves planes. He then proceeded to ask me lots of questions in aviation like the differences between the Airbus A330 and the Boeing 777 or even the Boeing 747 and the Airbus A380. I even taught him how to identify certain aircraft like the Airbus A321 and the Boeing 737-400. It felt like I was taking a test on my knowledge! Near to the end, he even popped that he knew about this aircraft known as the Fokker Friendship. My respect for him grew greater!

After a satisfactory chatting and spotting session, it was time to board my first of the "big 3" flights in my trip. That is, a new airline, new aircraft type and new destination!

The Flight


Qantas Flight QF 443 - 26JUN12
Origin: Sydney (Kingsford Smith) Airport (SYD/YSSY)
Destination: Melbourne (Tullamarine) Airport (MEL/YMML)
Registration: VH-OGG (Rockhampton)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-300ER
Scheduled Time of Departure: 3.00pm
Actual Time of Departure: 3.10pm
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 4.35pm
Actual Time of Arrival: 4.12pm
Airborne Time: 1h 2m
Class of Travel: Economy
Seat: 43A

Boarding was soon called and everyone headed to the aircraft in an orderly manner. Headphones were placed at the entrance of the jetway for anyone who wishes to get one. I guess this saves time and energy for the crew since if they were to distribute it to everyone onboard, not more than 20% of the passengers would use it anyway. In fact, I did not see anyone using the headphones at all throughout the flight.


My aircraft, the City of Rockhampton at the gate


Gate for today


Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, welcome onboard Qantas flight QF 443, the Cityflyer service to Melbourne. Our estimated flight time to Melbourne today is 1 hour and 5 minutes. We will be taking off shortly, please ensure that you have stowed all your carryon baggage, your seatback is upright, your tray tables stowed and your seatbelts are fastened. Thank you for choosing to fly with Qantas


I was surprised at how efficient the full Boeing 767 was boarded within 10 minutes and we pushed back on the dot at 3pm for a runway 16R takeoff at 3.10pm. It was a short and powerful takeoff, as expected on a widebody aircraft on a short domestic hop across the land of kangaroos.


Legroom was sufficient for a short flight


Still raining!


The safety card, with something extra...


Looking across the cabin


Starting the takeoff roll


The views were simply marvellous after takeoff. As we were on our takeoff roll, I saw a rainbow in the distance. We were also treated to views of ice mountains and beautiful clouds enroute. Seatbelt signs were off 4 minutes after takeoff. This signifies how fast we were climbing! It did not take the crew long to start meal service and it was announced the alcoholic drinks were available for purchase for AUD$6. Thought it would have been free!


A beautiful rainbow bade me goodbye as I lifted off New South Wales


Menu for the day were sweet biscuits and apples with a hot or cold drink. Not very substantial for me seeing I did not have lunch but I guess that's all they could do. Still better than a packet of peanuts though! In my aisle were 2 sweet flight attendants going around with one, presumably the more senior one asking each and every passenger, "Sweet biscuits for you there?" in a high pitched and happy tone. Even now her voice is still in my head. She made me felt pretty welcome and valued as a customer with her tone and with a warm "thank you" after handing over the snacks, it was a nice touch!


In flight catering for today


Not forgetting a cup of tea too. I love the cup! Red cups were used for hot drinks while blue cups were used for cold drinks


Favourite channel on a short flight, but sadly this came on for less than 2 minutes


The drinks trolley came shortly and there were a selection of juices, water, coffee or tea. I opted to go with the tea to keep me going from the lack of sleep and non-stop travelling for the day. As the drinks trolley went past, the captain came onto the PA and announced that we will be landing in Melbourne a little bit over 4.10pm, much earlier than our scheduled time of 4.35pm! There were some beautiful views on approach too.


Spot the smiley face on this picture!


Or probably a rainbow?


The sun shining through the clouds?


Or when the sun gets shy and hides behind the fuselage of a Boeing 767?


We touched down in MEL at 4.12pm on runway 16, signalling the logging of a new airport and city visited. Deboarding was pretty fast and soon I was on my way to the Virgin Australia domestic terminal which was on the other side of the airport.


Hello, Victoria!


Sun rays shining through the clouds, signalling a nice welcome to Melbourne for me!


Parked at the gate nearest to arrivals


Upon entering, I headed over to the check in kiosks to print my boarding pass and enter the airside area. I had a good 3 hours or more to spend in here so I decided to walk around and have a cup of tea (once again!) and do some simple spotting. Funnily enough, I might be too tired and sleepy that I ordered the Lemongrass and Ginger tea when I am pretty sure myself that I do not touch ginger at all. Fatigue is beginning to take its toll!


Beautiful Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 once again


Interior of the domestic terminal


Repainting takes some time. Here featuring a Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 still in Virgin Blue livery


Spot my flight? No it's not here!


Lemongrass and ginger tea


After what seem like a long 3 hours, my flight was finally ready for boarding.

Virgin Australia Flight DJ 243 - 26JUN12
Origin: Melbourne (Tullamarine) Airport (MEL/YMML)
Destination: Adelaide Airport (ADL/YPAD)
Registration: VH-ZPJ (Bambino Blue)
Aircraft: Embraer ERJ-190
Scheduled Time of Departure: 7.40pm
Actual Time of Departure: 7.56pm
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 8.35pm
Actual Time of Arrival: 8.25pm
Airborne Time: 59m
Class of Travel: Economy
Seat: 11A

Boarding as usual was pretty fast for this flight. I guess you call this Australian efficiency? I am beginning to love Australia more and more, but not the domestic airfares! It cost me more to fly SYD-MEL-ADL-SYD than SIN-SYD-SIN. More on that next time! As I entered the E190, I can't help but to notice that the ceiling was noticeably lower compared to the other aircraft I've been on (smallest jet I've been on was the Airbus A319, but I've also been on the ATR72 before). The ceiling was just a few inches above my head! If I were to jump I would almost certainly bump my head onto the ceiling. As I sat down on my comfortable seat, I noticed that despite being a small aircraft, the windows were much larger than that of any Airbus or Boeing I've been on. This is pretty good news if this was a day flight!


Look out the window


Huge windows! Great for phototaking!


The plane felt pretty cosy even though I had a seatmate. As I looked around my surroundings, I noticed that the flight crew was entirely male! This must be my first time encountering this. I guess an all-male flight crew would be as rare as an all-female crew? With no time to waste, we pushed back and the captain made a quick taxi to runway 16 for takeoff, ending my short appearance at MEL. I'll be back!


Legroom was kinda tight but acceptable for an hour long flight


Look across the cabin


Takeoff was short and powerful and BOB soon commenced. As they approached my row, I ordered a vegetarian wrap but was told there were no perishables onboard so I opted for the nuts instead. Cost was AUD $5 but pretty worth it for some nibbles on the flight. I was even given a cup as the f/a told me it would be hard to get the stuff out so it would be easier for me to pour them into the cup. Great touch there by DJ!


After takeoff


The beautifully designed menu


As I noticed the f/as in action after meal service, I noticed that they were pretty much on the "softer" side, if you get what I mean. I couldn't help but to wonder if this was an image DJ was trying to portray. From what seem like a short flight, it was soon announced that we will be descending into ADL. I was very excited at this point in time seeing that I will be meeting my friends whom I have not seen for more than a year!


My choice


All into the cup!


This thing might make a good collectible!


All ready to land!


We touched down softly on the soils of ADL on runway 05 and taxied to the Virgin Australia terminal. I was sorta tricked by my friends when they told me that they will be waiting for me at the belt. Forgetting that in Australian airports the public could get to the gate, I was shocked when I saw them right at the gate when I stepped off the plane. It was a pretty pleasant surprise and happy reunion!


Domestic arrivals of ADL


After a long day of travelling, it was time to settle down in Adelaide for a short while. What did I do in Adelaide? Where did my friends (namely Ish, Preet and Lorrae) brought me to? What did I eat? All coming up in the next report!

Conclusion


Flying on 2 of Australia's largest airlines was an eye opener for me. It let me get close to the crowds of Australia and experience the Australian way of service. Qantas scored high points in terms of service level and making the passenger feel valued even in Economy Class. Given the chance, I would certainly fly Qantas again.

As for Virgin Australia, they were a pretty nice airline to begin with from their advertising campaigns and such. Their onboard service was not as good as that of Qantas' but still acceptable for a 4-star airline. Having a short flight with them this time, I would be most interested in seeing what kind of service they can provide for a long flight.

Previous Trip Reports


Flying 5 Star - SQ SIN-CAN-SIN (2009) (by Initious Mar 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Sardines In A Can - Jetstar Asia SIN-HKG-SIN (by Initious Mar 29 2010 in Trip Reports)
Away We Go - China Southern SIN-CAN-WUH Vv (1/2) (by initious Apr 2 2010 in Trip Reports)
Away We Go - China Southern WUH-CAN-SIN (2/2) (by initious Apr 14 2010 in Trip Reports)
Oldest Vs Newest: Royal Silk Class On Thai (by Initious Jun 13 2010 in Trip Reports)
First On Airliners.net - CZ Shanghai To Shantou (by Initious Jun 27 2010 in Trip Reports)
18 Hours Of Royal Orchid Service: Thai PVG-BKK-SIN (by initious Jul 27 2010 in Trip Reports)
Good Morning Borneo! - Where Silkair Unwinds... (by initious Oct 17 2010 in Trip Reports)
Irama AirAsia! - Kota Kinabalu To Singapore (by initious Oct 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Great Asia Trip Part 1 - Propping To Luxury (by Initious Mar 23 2011 in Trip Reports)
Great Asia Trip Part 2 - In Love With Emirates (by initious Mar 27 2011 in Trip Reports)
Great Asia Trip Part 3 - The Arabian Adventure (by initious Apr 15 2011 in Trip Reports)
Great Asia Trip Finale - Brothers In Bangkok (by initious May 9 2011 in Trip Reports)
Flying The Orange Star Monopoly - SIN-SWA On 3K (by initious May 18 2011 in Trip Reports)
China Southern SWA-CAN - Do They Deserve 4 Star? (by initious May 21 2011 in Trip Reports)
A Dream Come True - SQ Business Class CAN-SIN (by initious Jun 13 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Boleh! - To Malaysia With 3K And AK (by initious Jun 30 2011 in Trip Reports)
Flying On My Birthday - The Triangle In SEA (by initious Jul 18 2011 in Trip Reports)
People: They Make An Airline. Cathay SIN-HKG (by Initious Jan 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
Cathay, Make Up Your Mind! HKG-SIN On The A333 (by initious Mar 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
1 New Airport, 10 Steps Forward. Jetstar SIN-SWA (by initious Apr 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
China "Sudden" Airlines SWA-HKG - 4 Star? Really? (by initious Apr 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
Celebrities In Asia's World City - Jetstar HKG-SIN (by Initious May 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
Get Outta Here! With SCOOTitude - Down Under! (by Initious Jun 28 2012 in Trip Reports)


One way I will fly around the world!
24 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12847 times:

Hi Initious

Great report and wonderful pics - thanks for posting the second part of your journey down under. I really loved the panning shots in SYD. They came out really well. Nice to see you had good flights domestically as well, even if the price was a little high. Prices on domestic airfares in Australia have fluctuated over the years quite significantly - certainly before deregulation, they were skyhigh. When Virgin first entered the market there in 2000, fares dropped a lot before stabilising again, particularly after Ansett's sad demise.

Nice to see you logged an E-jet too - one of my favourite types here in Europe!

Thanks again - Palmjet



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12196 times:

Hi Daniel,

Great short run to Adelaide. Nice to see you logged new airports, new types and new airlines!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
This was when I started to fall in love with Australia. Other than this kind lady, I have met countless kind Australians. Surprisingly, I have not met any rude Australians in my short 3-day stay there be it in Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide.

Good to know that they treat tourists nicely!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
To add icing to the cake, this bus goes through the tarmac instead of driving on main public roads like the T Bus.

You can see the departure point from the observation deck. I remember watching it come and go all the time..

Quoting initious (Thread starter):

It was not a long walk and soon I reached the Qantas Heritage Gallery. It was a pretty informative gallery showing the history of Qantas, the past and present aircraft and even the uniforms. Walking through, I found a wonderful spot for something that a.netters would love. What is it? Let the pictures tell you!

Glad you enjoyed it! And great pics too.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
The safety card, with something extra...

.... To stop you from taking it home  
Quoting initious (Thread starter):
It did not take the crew long to start meal service and it was announced the alcoholic drinks were available for purchase for AUD$6. Thought it would have been free!

Yeah, alcoholic drinks are only free after 4pm these days.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):

Menu for the day were sweet biscuits and apples with a hot or cold drink. Not very substantial for me seeing I did not have lunch but I guess that's all they could do. Still better than a packet of peanuts though!

You're unfortunate you didn't depart SYD 2 hours earlier or took QF between MEL and ADL. You may have got a meal on QF, raising your impression of them even more.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
The plane felt pretty cosy even though I had a seatmate

It's a great little plane for that purpose! Not that I remember too much of my E70 flight with them.. Gotta get on an E90 sometime.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I ordered a vegetarian wrap but was told there were no perishables onboard so I opted for the nuts instead.

IIRC, the E-Jets dont store half as much as the 737s do.. So if you're wanting a meal, you'd be wanting a 737!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Forgetting that in Australian airports the public could get to the gate, I was shocked when I saw them right at the gate when I stepped off the plane. It was a pretty pleasant surprise and happy reunion!

Haha something you'd never be able to do in Singapore!


Thanks for sharing, looking forward to the journey home.


Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11370 times:
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Hello Daniel,

Nice one again my friend! Good for you that you got to log some new stuff in Aussie land, for sure warm welcomed. Your SYD-MEL flight reminds me of my flight with Ansett in 2000, from MEL to SYD on a B762. MEL hasn’t changed much since then by the looks of it.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
To add icing to the cake, this bus goes through the tarmac

I did the same back then although I wasn’t travelling on QF. So is this bus only for QF pax then?

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
An even bigger one shows up!

Wow, she just barely fits in to the hangar.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Red cups were used for hot drinks while blue cups were used for cold drinks

What a clever idea ha ha ha!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
The ceiling was just a few inches above my head!

The F50 is much worse when talking about headroom. I always bump my head into the ceiling when I’m on one of those.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I noticed that despite being a small aircraft, the windows were much larger than that of any Airbus or Boeing I've been on.

Yes, you’re right and it makes all the difference in not developing a serious neck injury  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10963 times:

Hi Daniel,

Nice to see a report comparing DJ & QF. I recently did a similar style of report flying SYD-MEL-SYD. Your experiences pretty much mine. Both carriers are very good though if I had the choice, I'd fly QF.

A Battle In The Skies Of Oz, DJ Vs QF, SYD-MEL-SYD (by aflyingkiwi Apr 25 2012 in Trip Reports)

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
It was not a long walk and soon I reached the Qantas Heritage Gallery. It was a pretty informative gallery showing the history of Qantas, the past and present aircraft and even the uniforms.

Unfortunately I've yet to visit the gallery. It looks quite nice. Great spotting pics as well!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Menu for the day were sweet biscuits and apples with a hot or cold drink. Not very substantial for me seeing I did not have lunch but I guess that's all they could do.

Compared to the hot meal I got, that looks pretty disappointing.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I am beginning to love Australia more and more, but not the domestic airfares!

Agreed. Even in New Zealand where there isn't too much competition it's cheaper than flying in Oz.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
As I entered the E190, I can't help but to notice that the ceiling was noticeably lower

Interesting to here your notes regarding the E190. I had a choice between the E190 & the B738 on my SYD-MEL leg though opted to take the B738.

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10360 times:

HI palmjet,

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Great report and wonderful pics

Thanks for reading and your kind comments!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
I really loved the panning shots in SYD. They came out really well.

Thank you. I guess I got lucky there. Doesn't help that I accidentally set my exposure compensation to -0.7 and only noticed it when I was about to leave.  
Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Nice to see you had good flights domestically as well, even if the price was a little high. Prices on domestic airfares in Australia have fluctuated over the years quite significantly - certainly before deregulation, they were skyhigh.

Great to hear that! Funny that my 3 domestic flights combined are more expensive than SIN-SYD-SIN. Mind you, SYD-MEL-ADL-SYD is not even HALF the distance of one way SIN-SYD!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Nice to see you logged an E-jet too - one of my favourite types here in Europe!

It's now in one of my most favourite planes too.

Hi Nicholas,

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Great short run to Adelaide. Nice to see you logged new airports, new types and new airlines!

Thanks!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Good to know that they treat tourists nicely!

Certainly. Now to visit Australia's neighbour to the east...  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
You can see the departure point from the observation deck. I remember watching it come and go all the time..

Haha, been there, but not done that as the runway direction was 34L.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Glad you enjoyed it! And great pics too.

Thanks!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
To stop you from taking it home

Sadly they failed.  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
You're unfortunate you didn't depart SYD 2 hours earlier or took QF between MEL and ADL. You may have got a meal on QF, raising your impression of them even more.

I certainly would love to see what can QF serve for a meal, so that's another airline to be marked in my long haul list one day.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
It's a great little plane for that purpose! Not that I remember too much of my E70 flight with them.. Gotta get on an E90 sometime.

Haha yes!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
IIRC, the E-Jets dont store half as much as the 737s do.. So if you're wanting a meal, you'd be wanting a 737!

Not that they managed to serve anything hot on the B738 too...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Haha something you'd never be able to do in Singapore!

Yeah! I'd so love to surprise my arriving friends at the gate instead!

Hi Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Nice one again my friend! Good for you that you got to log some new stuff in Aussie land, for sure warm welcomed. Your SYD-MEL flight reminds me of my flight with Ansett in 2000, from MEL to SYD on a B762. MEL hasn’t changed much since then by the looks of it.

Thanks for reading! Wow, Ansett, an airline I didn't knew it existed till a few years ago, when it has obviously gone bust! Pretty curious about their services and such.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
I did the same back then although I wasn’t travelling on QF. So is this bus only for QF pax then?

Apparently yes it's only for QF passengers.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Wow, she just barely fits in to the hangar.

Haha, time to upgrade the hangar.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Yes, you’re right and it makes all the difference in not developing a serious neck injury

I certainly would love windows as huge as that on my Airbus / Boeing!

Hi aflyingkiwi,

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 4):
Nice to see a report comparing DJ & QF.

Thank you!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 4):
Compared to the hot meal I got, that looks pretty disappointing.

Well, guess I chose the wrong time!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 4):
Agreed. Even in New Zealand where there isn't too much competition it's cheaper than flying in Oz.

I know what I'm gonna do when I visit NZ next time.. ZQN here I come!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 4):
Interesting to here your notes regarding the E190. I had a choice between the E190 & the B738 on my SYD-MEL leg though opted to take the B738.

I flew the B738 ADL-SYD, report should be coming up soon.

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1401 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10187 times:

Great trip report! I think the 767 service from SYD to MEL is something similar to what Air Canada has on the Toronto-Montreal Leg. Sort of "RAPIDAIR" if you will. I'm sure there's lots of traffic between the two. I hope to head to Australia sometime this year. It would be a dream come true.


Superior decisions reduce the need for superior skills.
User currently offlineRobMEL From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10083 times:

Quoting vio (Reply 6):
Great trip report! I think the 767 service from SYD to MEL is something similar to what Air Canada has on the Toronto-Montreal Leg. Sort of "RAPIDAIR" if you will. I'm sure there's lots of traffic between the two. I hope to head to Australia sometime this year. It would be a dream come true.

Yeah, the Sydney-Melbourne corridor is amongst the busiest in the world for pax numbers, daily flights etc. It does feel a little like sitting on a flying bus at times (no Airbus jokes) due to the slashing of service in the competitve world. When we only had 2 airlines, Qantas and Ansett, you got a hot meal on every flight, but you paid through the nose for the flights. As a family, we usually drove to Sydney as the cost of flying was prohibitive. Now, if you shop around, $20 return fares are not ungettable.

Note though, flying time to Sydney is now blocked at 1.5 hours, when flying time is usually about an hour or so. There are delays at the Sydney end most of the time, can't remember the last time I wasn't delayed at least one way due to congestion, and I've been forced to overnight at least once due to the damn curfew! (SYD isn't a 24 hour airport, MEL is).


User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9733 times:

HI vio,

Quoting vio (Reply 6):
Great trip report!

Thanks!

Quoting vio (Reply 6):
I think the 767 service from SYD to MEL is something similar to what Air Canada has on the Toronto-Montreal Leg.

I guess so, each country always have their own "golden route" for domestic flights I guess. (does not apply to small countries like SIN of course!)

Quoting vio (Reply 6):
I'm sure there's lots of traffic between the two.

Definitely, seeing how you can fill a 767!

Quoting vio (Reply 6):
I hope to head to Australia sometime this year. It would be a dream come true.

Hope your wish comes true!

Hi Rob,

Quoting RobMEL (Reply 7):
Yeah, the Sydney-Melbourne corridor is amongst the busiest in the world for pax numbers, daily flights etc.

There's something fun about these flights - You can fly a widebody aircraft on a short route!

Quoting RobMEL (Reply 7):
It does feel a little like sitting on a flying bus at times (no Airbus jokes) due to the slashing of service in the competitve world.

Actually, I had that feeling!

Quoting RobMEL (Reply 7):
When we only had 2 airlines, Qantas and Ansett, you got a hot meal on every flight, but you paid through the nose for the flights.

How much were the airfares? I paid 139 AUD for one way on QF this time. Can't imagine it being much more expensive last time!

Quoting RobMEL (Reply 7):
Note though, flying time to Sydney is now blocked at 1.5 hours, when flying time is usually about an hour or so. There are delays at the Sydney end most of the time, can't remember the last time I wasn't delayed at least one way due to congestion, and I've been forced to overnight at least once due to the damn curfew! (SYD isn't a 24 hour airport, MEL is).

I did not face any delays at SYD or MEL, probably the rush hour was over or it has not come yet.

Regards,
Daniel



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User currently offlineN172DM From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9680 times:

Great Report! Amazing pictures, too, I love the 737 shot at the beginning. Sounds like QF has great customer service. I can't wait to try them one day. SYD-MEL seem like a fun route.

I'm looking forward to the next part!

Danny



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9666 times:

Quoting initious (Reply 5):
Certainly. Now to visit Australia's neighbour to the east...

And hopefully you'll meet just as nice people.. lol

Quoting initious (Reply 5):
Haha, been there, but not done that as the runway direction was 34L.

Whoops, I meant the QF domestic/international transfer bus  
Quoting initious (Reply 5):
Sadly they failed.

Eww haha.

Quoting initious (Reply 5):
I certainly would love to see what can QF serve for a meal, so that's another airline to be marked in my long haul list one day.

All you need to do is read my trip reports I suppose..  
Quoting initious (Reply 5):

Not that they managed to serve anything hot on the B738 too...

Hmm, maybe it was due to the time you flew possibly?


Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlineRobMEL From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9630 times:

Quoting initious (Reply 8):
How much were the airfares? I paid 139 AUD for one way on QF this time. Can't imagine it being much more expensive last time!

I don't have specific data, but my Dad reckons that $500 return fares were about the average price in the 1990s pre de-regulation of the airline industry in Australia. Even the dirt cheap fares were about $300 in 1990 dollars, which makes it about $520 in 2012 dollars.

These days whilst we can buy any fare at any time and go for as long or as short as we want, in the good ol' days Ansett and Qantas (or Australian Airlines/TAA) enforced some pretty heavy handed rules, including "must stay away Saturday night" on the cheap fares to make sure business people didn't use them, and all sorts of other tactics.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9417 times:

Hello Daniel

Another nice report, the spotting pics in SYD are faboulous.
Nice to see you got a widebody on the SYD-MEL flight. The 767 is one of my favourite aircrafts on the planet.
DJ looks to have great service as well.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9245 times:

Nice detailed report, thanks for sharing!
Always nice to read a comparison between the two!


User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9079 times:

Hi N172DM,

Quoting N172DM (Reply 9):
Great Report! Amazing pictures, too, I love the 737 shot at the beginning

Thank you!

Quoting N172DM (Reply 9):
SYD-MEL seem like a fun route.

Certainly, especially the variety of aircraft used on the route!

Hi Nicholas,

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 10):
And hopefully you'll meet just as nice people.. lol

Aren't I talking to 1 now? :p

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 10):
All you need to do is read my trip reports I suppose..  

Best is to experience it for myself :p

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 10):
Hmm, maybe it was due to the time you flew possibly?

Guess so, but I'd think a 6.30am departure would warrant some food for sale at least.

Hi RobMEL,

Quoting RobMEL (Reply 11):
I don't have specific data, but my Dad reckons that $500 return fares were about the average price in the 1990s pre de-regulation of the airline industry in Australia. Even the dirt cheap fares were about $300 in 1990 dollars, which makes it about $520 in 2012 dollars.

Wow, that's REALLY steep! Just like the SIN-KUL fares last time which can go as high as S$400!

Hi Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 12):
Another nice report, the spotting pics in SYD are faboulous.

Thanks for reading!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 12):
Nice to see you got a widebody on the SYD-MEL flight. The 767 is one of my favourite aircrafts on the planet.

After the flight it has also become one of my favourites!

Hi robert,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 13):

Nice detailed report, thanks for sharing!
Always nice to read a comparison between the two!

Thanks for reading! Glad you liked the report.  

Regards,
Daniel



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User currently offlineKLM777300ER From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8777 times:

I was on that very United 747 you snapped a photo of! Flew out of SYD back to California on June 26. Quite the rainy day. I was actually sitting at the Mcdonald's in the international terminal when that Air Pacific taxiid into the gate.

User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3174 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8499 times:

Thanks for writing the report, 3 hours in Melbourne is a long time though.

Qantas meal time flights generally are pretty good, I normally try and fly on Qantas during meal times.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):

Haha something you'd never be able to do in Singapore!

It is possible to get airside access in Singapore without flying anywhere, but it takes a lot of organizing, yes I have done it.



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8478 times:

Nice report Dan, looks like you were enjoying Oz!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
"Ah, you may enter the terminal and turn left. There will be a Qantas domestic check-in available and they will transfer you to the domestic terminal for free"

I can't belive you normally have to pay to get from one to the other..very cheap of them. Nice that QF have a free bus

Quoting initious (Thread starter):

It was not a long walk and soon I reached the Qantas Heritage Gallery. It was a pretty informative gallery showing the history of Qantas, the past and present aircraft and even the uniforms.

Thats a nice idea. Shame BA didn't use some of the empty space in T5 to so this

Quoting initious (Thread starter):

Menu for the day were sweet biscuits and apples with a hot or cold drink.

I would have thought there'd be free booze and a proprt meals too...maybe only in the evening?



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6716 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8462 times:

Hi Daniel,

nice report about your QF/DJ experience - congratulations on getting the 763ER and the E190. I also flew SYD-MEL on a QF 763 some years ago...

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
It was not a long walk and soon I reached the Qantas Heritage Gallery. It was a pretty informative gallery showing the history of Qantas, the past and present aircraft and even the uniforms. Walking through, I found a wonderful spot for something that a.netters would love. What is it? Let the pictures tell you!

...and I also visited that place. Very impressive! I also loved spotting from there. You took many great pictures!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I love the cup!

  


PH



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User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8420 times:

Hi KLM,

Quoting KLM777300ER (Reply 15):
I was on that very United 747 you snapped a photo of! Flew out of SYD back to California on June 26. Quite the rainy day. I was actually sitting at the Mcdonald's in the international terminal when that Air Pacific taxiid into the gate.

Cool! Hope you enjoyed your flight that day.

Hi BNE,

Quoting BNE" class="quote" target="_blank">BNE (Reply 16):
Qantas meal time flights generally are pretty good, I normally try and fly on Qantas during meal times.

I shall try that next time, for sure!

Quoting BNE" class="quote" target="_blank">BNE (Reply 16):
It is possible to get airside access in Singapore without flying anywhere, but it takes a lot of organizing, yes I have done it.

Wow, how did you do that?

Hi Gabriel,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 17):
Nice report Dan, looks like you were enjoying Oz!

Thanks! Yes, I was certainly enjoying myself!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 17):
I can't belive you normally have to pay to get from one to the other..very cheap of them. Nice that QF have a free bus

Well, the other terminal (T2) which the bus operates to has DJ, JQ and TT, go figure. :P Qantas uses T3.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 17):
Thats a nice idea. Shame BA didn't use some of the empty space in T5 to so this

Time to propose it to them!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 17):
I would have thought there'd be free booze and a proprt meals too...maybe only in the evening?

Seems like it's during dinner time!

Hi PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
nice report about your QF/DJ experience - congratulations on getting the 763ER and the E190. I also flew SYD-MEL on a QF 763 some years ago...

Thanks! I hope you enjoyed your 763ER flight too!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
...and I also visited that place. Very impressive! I also loved spotting from there. You took many great pictures!

Thanks! How cool to have visited the same place, albeit on a different time!

Regards,
Daniel



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8140 times:
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Hi Daniel,

Another great report with nice and clear pictures   Nice to see the difference between Qantas and Virgin Aurstralia..

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I stepped on to be greeted by a very kind female bus driver

That sure was very kind of her.

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Walking through, I found a wonderful spot for something that a.netters would love. What is it? Let the pictures tell you!

Great spotting pictures Daniel, nice spot!

cheers,
Brendan // adamspotter


User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Hi Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Another great report with nice and clear pictures   Nice to see the difference between Qantas and Virgin Aurstralia..

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it.  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Great spotting pictures Daniel, nice spot!

Thank you!

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Hey Daniel, nice report!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Yes, we're in Australia. Here seeing another Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 landing

Wow, I am really impressed with your photo skills. I simply LOVE the panning, great work!

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
This was when I started to fall in love with Australia. Other than this kind lady, I have met countless kind Australians. Surprisingly, I have not met any rude Australians in my short 3-day stay there be it in Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide.

It's always nice to get a good first impression of a country. After all, the first impression is what will make or brake  
Quoting initious (Thread starter):
To add icing to the cake, this bus goes through the tarmac instead of driving on main public roads like the T Bus.

Wow, I could be riding that bus back and forth all day! Shame about the expensive tickets, or was that just for the T-Bus?

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
I was surprised at how efficient the full Boeing 767 was boarded within 10 minutes

I suppose since those commuter routes mostly carry business travelers, who are well familiar with travel hence why the process was so civilized.  
Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Not forgetting a cup of tea too. I love the cup! Red cups were used for hot drinks while blue cups were used for cold drinks

Love the red Qantas cup! Did you ask for one to bring as a souvenir?

Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Lemongrass and ginger tea

Was it really necessary to use two cups? Usually it isn't that hot, and it saves the environment too, just to use one cup  
Quoting initious (Thread starter):
Huge windows! Great for phototaking!

I will be having my first E-Jet flights in a few weeks, so thanks a lot for making this observation. Will be a pleasure snapping window shots 

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



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User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6398 times:

Hi Jonas,

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
Wow, I am really impressed with your photo skills. I simply LOVE the panning, great work!

Thanks! Your encouragement is a very good motivation for me.  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
It's always nice to get a good first impression of a country. After all, the first impression is what will make or brake

Definitely, as you can see my first impression of Australia was fabulous!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
Wow, I could be riding that bus back and forth all day! Shame about the expensive tickets, or was that just for the T-Bus?

The bus is free for QF passengers. However, you have to pass through security each time you take the bus.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
I suppose since those commuter routes mostly carry business travelers, who are well familiar with travel hence why the process was so civilized.

Well, just the thing for me! I suppose I can contribute to a civilised process, instead of a chaotic one. :P

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
Love the red Qantas cup! Did you ask for one to bring as a souvenir?

No, I did not. My bag was full to the brim. It would become a plate instead when it gets back to SIN!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
Was it really necessary to use two cups? Usually it isn't that hot, and it saves the environment too, just to use one cup

It was piping hot! In fact my mouth was scalded when I drank my first cup of hot tea in SYD earlier in the day.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 22):
I will be having my first E-Jet flights in a few weeks, so thanks a lot for making this observation. Will be a pleasure snapping window shots 

Great, enjoy your E-jet flight! You'll enjoy how powerful the engines are when full thrust is applied!

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6716 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

Quoting Initious (Reply 19):
Thanks! I hope you enjoyed your 763ER flight too!

Yes, absolutely. Here's the report from 2006:

Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332) (by PlaneHunter Oct 4 2006 in Trip Reports)

Quoting Initious (Reply 19):
Thanks! How cool to have visited the same place, albeit on a different time!

  


PH



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