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US Trip 2012 Part 5: B.transatlantic  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
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Introduction

This is the fifth part of my Summer 2012 US Trip Report. It covers flights with AirTran and yet another flight with Delta plus the return transatlantic sector with an SN A333.

For the earlier parts, see these:

- Part 0: US Trip 2012 Part 0: Prologue (JYV-TLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 1: US Trip 2012 Part 1: Warming Up (HEL-TXL-BRU) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 2: US Trip 2012 Part 2: Oh (Air) Canada: BRU-YUL-YYZ (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 3: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 30 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 4: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA (by FlyingFinn76 Jul 5 2012 in Trip Reports)

So I had my return flight booked for the Monday night ex-JFK, which basically left me all day Monday to get there. There are plenty of ways to get from the DC area to NYC. I seriously considered trying out the Acela high speed train but fares were rather expensive and I could fly for the same amount of money. On the flying front American Eagle’s Embraer 140 on IAD-JFK sounded like a nice idea and I was about to book one when I figured I’ll check out nearby Baltimore airport as well. BWI is a big stronghold for Southwest Airlines (who I’ve flown before and thus were out of the books this time) and AirTran whose 717 sounded equally interesting and after finding a morning flight to BOS for around 100 bucks decided to do it. From BOS to JFK it was either Delta or American, I’ve done quite a few flights with AA and since the plane type was the boring 738 I decided to go with Delta since it was both the cheapest option at under 60 buckaroos plus was actually operated by Comair (a new airline) with the CRJ-700 (a plane type I’ve flown only once before with LH Cityline).

Well, of course Delta decided to play switcharoo on me again - a few months after booking they changed to plane to a mainline A319, how boring is that? AirTran also had a minor schedule change of 15 minutes which didn’t matter.

Here are the flights mapped out:

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Sunday 17.6.2012

I had initially planned to pay Baltimore a small visit as well before going to the airport for my hotel. Well, at some point I started to get this feeling that I was trying to do a little bit too much in too little time so ditched the Baltimore city visit idea and just booked an Amtrak ticket to the BWI airport stop instead for a later train than I originally planned to take. As it is the weekend the local trains weren’t running so I had to opt for an Northeast Regional service on mainline Amtrak equipment.

With this in mind I took the very nice DC Circulator bus service from Georgetown to Washington’s quite impressive Union station and left my luggage to the storage room there. I got a huge shock when the girl quoted the price for 6 hours of storage as 48 USD - had I known this rip off beforehand I’d left the bags in my hotel instead for free! Well, my arguments didn’t matter to her at all so what can you do...

Union station facade - some construction work going on:

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After some hours in the city I arrive back at Union station with the metro.

Quite an impressive building from the inside as well, although I don’t really like the fact that it is jam packed with retail facilities everywhere:

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Still having some time I head for the station’s Buffalo Grill for a nice refreshing pint or two - today is definitely hotter than yesterday (and later during the week the mercury hit 36 degrees Celcius!) so some lubrication is very much appreciated:

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Eventually I pick up my ticket from an Amtrak self service kiosk, my luggage from the girl who doesn’t seem to remember my grumpiness in the morning and we have bit of good natured chit chat and head looking for my “gate”.

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The commuter train service here has an interesting name - certain a.net members might really appreciate it:

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Taking a train in America is quite a bit different to Europe - in main stations you can’t just walk to the platform to wait for your train (why?) - instead there are gates where your train will eventually board, just like at airports. Boarding means walking down to the platform and from that point on it is the same as everywhere else - you find your carriage and hop on.

There are also checked luggage facilities, another similarity to air travel:

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My gate has a huge queue already and it keeps growing. They make some announcements but it is complete gibberish and nobody seems to understand what is being said. We all conclude it is some kind of a delay - what else. At least there’s a free wifi at the station so I use that while waiting.

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Eventually, some twenty minutes late or thereabouts boarding is announced.

I got an aisle seat for this train ride - well it doesn’t really matter as it is just half an hour or so anyway.

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Legroom:

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In Amtrak we trust:

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Soon enough we stop at the “Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport “ (what a mouthful) stop and I step off.

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There’s a free shuttle bus from here to the BWI airport:

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Ten minutes later I step off at the Airtran/Southwest terminal and head inside to look for a kiosk to print my boarding pass for tomorrow morning:

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Quite busy inside. Just like the OLCI application also the kiosk offers the possibility to upgrade to First class for 59 buckaroos, well I don’t really see it being worthwhile on this flight so again decline.

Having acquired the all-important boarding pass I contemplate about having dinner at the airport - there is one quite promising looking place but decide to leave that until the hotel, which turns out to be a bad mistake. So I head down one level to arrivals where the shuttle buses go:

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And then I wait. And wait. And wait a little more. The place is quite bad - tons and tons of diesel fumes around with all the buses, shuttle vans and pickup trucks running around plus very noisy with 737 after 737 of Southwest departing from the nearby pier:

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Eventually I figure out I better give the hotel a ring - due to the noise I have a hard time hearing anything but I think the woman finally understands where I am and what I want and joy and behold - some 20 minutes later the shuttle van finally shows up! Have I ever mentioned how I have this love/hate relationship with hotel shuttles?

I try some smalltalk with the driver but he doesn’t say anything - at first I thought he was just being an asshole but later when we got back to the hotel and the reception girl told him that he has to go straight back to pick up some more guests the expression on his face told me much more - I think he is just too damn tired at his job!

This time I’m staying at the Aloft BWI Airport, located in Linthicum Heights, whatever that place might be. Priceline didn’t yield me anything so I decided to try Hotwire for the first time and for 53 EUR I scored this hotel. Aloft is Starwood Property Group’s (best known for the Sheraton brand) attempt at shaking its corporate high class imago and creating a hip & cool, young brand. Well I’m very sceptical about that kind of forced and faux things, but let’s see.

First impression - yes, very hippy:

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The reception girl is very jiggy, I’m not sure if they told her to be like that to fit into the chain imago or whether that’s the way she really grew up in her hood. Anyway she explains to me that there’s no onsite restaurant (bummer), but they have something she refers to as the “Re:Fuel Station” (oh, so hip!) where you can buy some prepackaged more or less junk food. There’s also a Hilton right next door which is managed by the same company and their restaurant will give you a 15% discount with your keycard.

Here’s my room then:

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See, this alarm clock is so DDR retro in an ironic way:

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Oh well, I’ve been in far, far worse hotels and that bed certainly is huge and very comfortable. Going to the Hilton for supper doesn’t really appeal to me this time so I go back down, buy a couple of Coronas from the bar (the girl there is equally jiggy to the reception one - this definitely must be the corporate imago then, well she is very nice so no problems) and something that looks like the least junkish of the food from the pantry. I say “this is my supper then” to which the reception girl says “I say that’s a damn fine supper!” which sounds a bit forced to me! Anyway this is what I got:

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I pack up my stuff, watch an episode of Futurama on the big ass telly and head off to sleep in preparation for the long travel day...

Monday 18.6.2012

As has become the norm on this trip the alarm wakes me up at 4.45. For some unfathomable reason I have ZZTop’s “Tush” playing around in my head which becomes quite annoying after the fourth or fifth time...

After the usual shower and stuff I head downstairs to wait for my prebooked 5.30 shuttle. The reception shift has changed overnight, the new girl is a little bit less jiggy but very friendly. Waiting outside for the shuttle:

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Yes, this is the name of their lobby bar - see, it’s so hip:

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Soon the shuttle shows up, the yesterday’s grumpy guy has been replaced by a much nicer and very jolly Asian chap who already has a gal from the Hilton onboard.

Entering the Southwest terminal I’m in for a shock - it’s barely 5.45 AM and the queues are insane:

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I remember seeing a sign yesterday night that there is an additional security checkpoint downstairs so I decide to give it a try. The queue here is somewhat shorter so I join it:

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It isn’t too bad actually - after some 25 minutes I’m through and no nudiescanner this time either! I think the TSA folks here are the friendliest on this trip.

BWI has a huge Southwest presence:

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Between the A (Southwest) and B (Southwest and AirTran) piers there’s a shopping/food court area so I head there for some breakfast:

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Plenty of choices here but I eventually settle for a breakfast burrito with coffee, what else:

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Heading down to the B pier and my gate I see the trendy rocking chairs have made an appearance here as well:

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As mentioned, this pier is mainly AirTran - not my 717 this one, though:

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Hmm, that sounds (and looks) good - yummy seafood (sorry, Nils!) - maybe I need to come back to BWI during a proper meal hour to sample this place:

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Getting to my gate I sit down in front of the window facing the arrival runway watching the traffic. An United 757 that just arrived from its long redeye flight from SFO if I remember correctly:

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They make an announcement about upgrades still being available for this flight. As I don’t catch the price the agent mentioned I go to the podium to ask - the girl says that it is still the same 59 USD so I tell her I’ll think about (for a microsecond).

A bit later they also make an announcement about a potential overbooking situation - they might need five volunteers and the offer is 300 USD compensation I think and a seat on the next flight which doesn’t work for me as it is too late to catch my DL flight down to JFK, bugger that.

Hmm, this might be my ride arriving:

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Although this special logojet lands right after it and I keep hoping this would be it instead:

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Unfortunately the vanilla liveried one pulls in to my gate:

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N996AT is the reg - of course a new one for my log and my 151th airline as well.

Haha, I really like that ad on the catering truck:

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The gate has the Southwest-style boarding groups marked with these steel poles:

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Boarding is called relatively soon after the inbound arrived. They do it in groups, starting with business class and since I decided to go for the definitive 717 experience and picked a seat way back in front of the engine I’m already in the second group.

BWI - BOS
FL1874
B717 N996AT
Seat 27A
7.41 - 8.55

Tammy, the purser is a really nice and bubbling Southern belle, this is definitely the first time I’ve ever been called a “Sweetie Pie”! I ask where they came from - she says “It’s too early to remember!” and a bit later “I think it was Rochester, hun!”. Definitely a bit different welcome this time!

Business class is the standard US 2-2 affair, large and relatively comfortable looking leather armchair type of chairs. Economy has cloth seats - a bit old fashioned when compared to the new slimline trend, but quite comfortable:

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Yes, gogo is here as well - although AirTran doesn’t give you the 15 minutes for free like Delta, bummer:

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Legroom is better than on the KF 717s with the old seats on the back rows:

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Ahh, the definitive 717 view:

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My seatmate is a young Asian lady who first goes thru her marketing budget Excel on her laptop while we are still on the ground (no privacy shield on that laptop - I can see everything!) and sleeps the rest of the flight away, my kinda seatmate for this flight I guess!

I’m not sure what happened with the oversell situation, I think I see a couple of empty middle seats so I guess it didn’t manifest itself after all...

The captain announces the flight time as 1h1mins “take off to touchdown” like he puts it. Pushback is six minutes late.

Considering that a good number of Southwest jets have already departed this morning they still have a very impressive lineup - the operation must be really big here:

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It’s not all 717s though - expect to see more and more of these when the 717s go to Delta:

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Taxi to runway 28 takes around ten minutes.

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Racing US Scareways - we won:

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Keep spending, the economy needs you:

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It is rather hazy and cloudy so unfortunately there’s no view of the city of Baltimore itself which I was hoping for. The next opening in the clouds comes somewhere over Philadelphia I think:

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Service is a drinks run (more watered down, bad Ginger Ale, I think it was Seagrams and just a cup, not even the whole can) and it looks like Delta doesn’t have a monopoly on Biscoffs - maybe it’s a requirement for ATL-based airlines:

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Quite a nice view of Manhattan:

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Over Brooklyn:

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The Throgs Neck Bridge connecting Queens with Bronx:

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Providence, RI:

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Heading for the clouds to start our approach into Logan:

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Over the vast suburbia on the southern side of Boston:

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Can you spot our shadow:

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Beach or downtown:

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Over the port facilities during our finals for runway 04R:

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And touchdown - I clocked the flight time as 1h4mins:

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JetBlue has a large hub operation here as well - I think BOS was their second hub after JFK where it all started from:

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Southwest avoided BOS for a long time, instead focusing its operations to MHT (Manchester, New Hampshire) just some 50 miles away but eventually they gave in:

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A few minutes later we dock to the E terminal, bringing this mediocre flight on a lovely plane to an end.

Boston Logan International Airport

Bye:

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Oooh, Porter - I so want to try them out:

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The trend has reached Massachusetts as well:

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Delta lives in terminal A, so I need to exit the sterile area and head across there. JAL check in desks for their new 787 service:

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Walkway towards the other terminals:

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BOS sits at an excellent location, just across the bay from downtown:

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Oh, I didn’t know they had one here:

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And this is the memorial itself - looks quite nice actually:

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Reaching the A terminal - which has a separate satellite terminal as well:

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This A319 sitting at the satellite terminal will actually operate my flight down to JFK:

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The Terminal A check in hall:

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Departures:

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I head to a self service kiosk to print out my boarding pass. This time the upgrade situation doesn’t look too good as I’m number 18 on the upgrade list and there are just 12 F seats on the scheduled A319, but for a flight that short I don’t really care - I still have a seat in the Economy Comfort section of the cabin.

I head outside to enjoy the sunshine for a while before getting back in and heading for the Premium Access security lane. The normal lanes are very long, so this time I’m quite happy about this particular status perk.

The security itself is another TSA hassle - no way for the agents to treat you with any respect - anybody is a potential terrorist until proven otherwise I guess. Again they direct me to the nudiescope instead of the WTMD, again nobody offers me the chance to opt out, again I don’t really care.

The A terminal apparently has been renovated quite recently - looks okay actually:

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Next stop is a long awaited one - it is almost lunchtime, at least considering how long I’ve already been up and BOS airport just happens to have several outlets of Legal Sea Foods, a famous chain of seafood (wow, what a surprise) restaurants originating from Boston. The A terminal has something called the “Legal Test Kitchen”, not sure what the difference is but at least they are serving the chain’s famous Clam Chowder so my choice is quite clear:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
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This is a bit awkward - note to self: never order a steak at an US Airport restaurant:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Boston_16.jpg

Having satisfied my craving for creatures of the deep (damn that chowder was yummy!) I head to my gate which is located in the satellite building, accessed by a walkway running deep below the apron:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Boston_18.jpg

The satellite doesn’t look half bad either - the carpeting is only limited to the gate areas:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Boston_19.jpg

Getting to the gate I notice my plane is parked already there, just as I suspected earlier.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_1.jpg

As all the DL A319s N335NB is an ex-NW bird that became DL after the merger.

Before boarding starts they first announce that “On this flight there will be no service in economy, with Delta our customers are always welcome to bring their own food & beverages onboard”. A bit later the gate agents ask for volunteers... this certainly gets my attention, but then they continue by saying “to gate check their bags for free as this is a full flight” which sort of lets my attention drop - being in the priority boarding group anyway I will have an overhead for my roller (which BTW broke down on this day and will have to be retired after this trip) and hey, it’s a dog eat dog world after all...

Right after those announcements boarding is called.

BOS - JFK
DL2075
A319 N335NB
Seat 5F
12.00 - 12.53

Economy Comfort once again hits to spot quite nicely here on row 5:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_2.jpg

For a long time I think that I have hit paydirt here as the middle seat tries stubbornly to stay empty, but at the last moment an FA escorts two persons onboard, the one wearing an Arab-style white gown to 4D and the other dressed in a more westernized way next to me. I learn from the guy that he is escorting his old father (the gown man) back to their homeland of Sudan and that the father doesn’t speak any English at all. Unfortunately this guy is kinda large and smelly too - he sleeps throughout the flight but apparently keeps passing gas during his sleep which of course is not very nice for me. Oh, and he also snores. A lot.

We push back bang on time at noon.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_3.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_4.jpg

That’s an interesting looking building:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_5.jpg

The smoky end of an FedEx tri-holer:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_6.jpg

Ditto:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_7.jpg

Taxiing to 04R:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_8.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_9.jpg

Hey, who’s that:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_10.jpg

Oh, that’s cool - slainte:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_11.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_12.jpg

Taking off, the town of Nahant visible:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_13.jpg

Nahant is located at an island of sorts, connected to the mainland via a narrow spit of land with some nice looking beaches. Not surprisingly it is a rather affluent town:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_14.jpg

Heading over the Atlantic for a while before turning back towards the southwest:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_15.jpg

Logan:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_16.jpg

Passing over Hull, MA:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_17.jpg

The weather has cleared up somewhat so there are some nice views of the huge megalopolis of the Eastern Seaboard. Here’s Providence again:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_18.jpg

And PVD airport:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_19.jpg

Quonset State Airport - former Naval Air Station Quonset Point:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_20.jpg

Newport, RI:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_21.jpg

As they mentioned on the ground at BOS there’s no service on this flight, although the guy next to me asks for a glass of water for his father which is promptly delivered. Heck try that with SAS nowadays and they’d charge you money for it!

New London, CT (curiously enough that river is also named “Thames”):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_22.jpg

Hello, Long Island:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_23.jpg

The sight of Long Island signals our descent which the captain announces.

The approach is again amazing - I’m glued to my window just watching that amazing urban sprawl covering most of this island - no, we don’t have anything like that back home.

Brookhaven Airport:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_24.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_25.jpg

Long Island MacArthur (who?) Airport - the Southwest stronghold near NYC:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_26.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_27.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_28.jpg

Plenty of airports on Long Island, this one’s called Republic Airport:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_29.jpg

A church with a huge parking lot:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_30.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_31.jpg

And a huge cemetery:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_32.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_33.jpg

NYC city skyline in the distance:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_34.jpg

Where’s Kennedy:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_35.jpg

Oh, there it is:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_36.jpg

Touchdown on 22L, total flight time around 40 minutes:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_37.jpg

Deltaland:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_38.jpg

Moscow on the Hudson:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_39.jpg

Nice:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_40.jpg

Super nice:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_41.jpg

Didn’t know JFK too had moon buggies:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_42.jpg

Typical JFK scene - planes after planes:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_43.jpg

Pulling under the “mushroom” of T3, the former Pan Am Worldport:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_44.jpg

Which one is correct - this one:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_45.jpg

...or this one:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Delta_46.jpg

John F. Kennedy International Airport

T3 interior - doesn’t look that bad actually and the way from the gate to the exit is really short:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_1.jpg

Next task is to get to T1 where the LH Group airlines are located. To access the AirTrain one has to actually go outside here. Interesting - do they throw you out if a dog flying some other airline goes in to take a whizz:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_2.jpg

Looks like my bird has already arrived:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_3.jpg

Something big over at T2:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_4.jpg

Oh bugger:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_5.jpg

The AirTrain normally runs in two loops, one clockwise and the other counterclockwise. Well, thanks to this only the counterclockwise is running which is really annoying for me as I have to make the full loop. That’s T1 right there behind - so close yet so far away:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_6.jpg

After the honorary loop (well, at least I get to admire the gorgeous AA Terminal 8 again in addition to the famous Eero Saarinen T5 - gotta be proud for Finns who have made it big) I arrive at T1. Art when entering the terminal from the AirTrain walkway:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_7.jpg

Busy:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_8.jpg

I locate the SN check in at the leftmost desks of the leftmost check in desk bank (if that makes sense), next to the Air China one. There are quite a few people in the line for economy, but luckily status once again works its magic here and only one passenger in front of me on the business class counter. The girl (Ukrainian origin I think, judging from her last name - not very uncommon in NYC that) is very friendly but keeps asking me for my onward flights. Sorry dear, but that’s really none of your business. As far as you are concerned I’m flying to Brussels and that’s it - being an EU citizen I have every right to enter the European Fortress, so leave it at that, thank you. Finally she gets it and prints me my boarding pass, plus priority tags for my bag (yeah, finally got rid of it, yay!).

Having gotten rid of my roller I spot a really nice looking Asian noodle shop on a mezzanine level over the security checkpoint and just have to get a bowl of ramen noodles:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_9.jpg

Security itself is crazy - huge queues and your usual rude, very rude TSA agents. I get yelled at for daring to overstep the “Please wait behind this line”. With a Turkish 77W departing to IST shortly there are a lot of “special” passengers here as well. After 20 minutes or so of queuing it is my turn next and right then the whole cabin crew of a China Eastern 346 cuts in line before me! I stare at this in disbelief. One of the TSA agents says “Well, if you’re going to wait in that line it’ll take you ages with the crew having priority.” in a tone of voice that implies I’m stupid for just standing there and not switching to another lane. Well, your buddy here just yelled at me for not following the instructions to the letter so no wonder I’m reluctant to show any self initiative!

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_10.jpg

So I switch lanes and finally after half an hour or so am through. This time there’s no nudiescope, just a regular WTMD. Boy am I glad this was my last experience with the TSA for a while now! Can’t wait to be back in the Old Continent where they usually at least treat you with respect.

FIDS:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_11.jpg

Before heading to the Lufthansa lounge I take a quick look around:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_12.jpg

Nice to see the old name of this airport still being around somewhere:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_13.jpg

Obamalate:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_14.jpg

Nothing really interesting in this terminal so I head to the lounge. The friendly front desk agent says “Upstairs for you as a Gold” which is like music to my ears, not that the business lounge downstairs looks shabby or anything.

Lounge ambience:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_16.jpg

Upstairs offers excellent views of the apron between T1 and T2 and one of the departure runways. You can just barely make out my plane as the last of this *A line up:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_15.jpg

Another JetBlue logojet taking off:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_17.jpg

Sandwiches and such:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_18.jpg

The bar here is staffed - but at least free (and no stupid drink chits either!) and I guess you are not expected to tip, at least the girls don’t cut me off the booze after I fail to do so:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_19.jpg

They have Spaten on tap - this and the T-mobile wifi connection make me feel like I’m back in Europe already:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_20.jpg

The catering is by Do&Co and of excellent quality:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_21.jpg

Something big:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_22.jpg

I charge up my phone and laptop and surf around, discovering in the process that OO-SFW is supposed to be taking me across the pond tonight - it’s a 17+ years veteran A333 having originally been delivered to LTU back in 1994. And I thought the A330 was a relatively new plane type, especially the -300 model!

The flight status changes to boarding some 50 minutes before the SDT, I leisurely gather my stuff and head towards the gate - no need to get caught in the rush.

How are we doing today - the cafeteria in my office has one of these as well:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_23.jpg

Walking towards the gate I check out the other planes there - hello:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_24.jpg

My my, aren’t you a big girl:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Kennedy_25.jpg

Looks like I timed myself just right as there’s no queue anymore and I walk straight onboard after having my boarding pass & passport checked and wished a nice flight. I’m tempted to say leaving this continent is never that nice, but hold my tongue once again.

JFK - BRU
SN502
A330-300 OO-SFW
Seat 46A
17.30 - 7.10 (+1)

The Maitre de Cabine or whatever SN calls her insists on seeing my boarding pass, I insist that I am fully aware of my seat and which aisle (the first) I should take. She wins.

I head down to the last row, what else.

These are the new seat SN so proudly advertises:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_1.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_2.jpg

Seat 46A, my home for the night:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_3.jpg

View of the rear economy cabin:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_4.jpg

I hate it when people do that:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_5.jpg

Sitting down - decent legroom, but the seat is rock hard. So hard in fact that sleeping was hard and left me with a sore back:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_6.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_8.jpg

The large PTV:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_7.jpg

Nice to see a non-red logo for a change:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_9.jpg

Red on the pillow, though:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_10.jpg

I’m starting to think I lucked out out as the whole last row stays empty. Then an extended African family with maybe six kids and a couple of mothers (but no males - maybe they are up front in Business class) come and for a while I’m seeing horror images of spending the night surrounded by noisy and hyperactive little rascals! Well, a bit later they ask an FA something and soon it becomes apparent that they are on the wrong row - they are guided some ten rows towards the front where they spread out - phew!

Speaking of Africans there are a lot of them onboard - SN is obviously trying to cash in on this travel market thanks to their extensive network to Africa ex-BRU, stepping on Air France’s traditional turf here.

The Airshow looks nice but seems to be caught on a weird loop here, showing places that have absolutely no relationship to our route tonight:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_11.jpg

But occasionally it hits pay dirt as well:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_12.jpg

Ugh - I most certainly hope that is not blood. Since this plane has spent most of the last five years flying to Africa and back who knows what kind of exotic diseases could be in there - Ebola, Marburg, you name it:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_13.jpg

Hey, I spot a bag of Finnish salmiakki on the seat pocket of 45C:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_14.jpg

The two girls (who are obviously sisters, the resemblance is striking!) there are speaking with each other in Swedish, but not only Swedish but genuine Finnish Swedish, which is the second funniest language on earth! Later on I see from their bag tags that not only are they from Finland, they are from the arse of Finland, Turku! Shame on you.

I’m starting to think I lucked out out as the whole last row stays empty. Well, at the last moment an African family (whoa, am I experiencing a deja-vu here??) comes and it turns out the older son has the seat next to me, whereas the mother and the younger daughter have two of the three middle seats. Obviously, I’m not very happy about this but luckily the mother isn’t either - she says she will not sit without her children next to her. I hit the call button to ask an FA whether any more passengers are still expected or has the boarding been completed already. Well, that call still was unanswered when we took off an hour later...

Anyway luckily the crew does announce “boarding completed” a few minutes later so I tell the mother that they can now move to claim any free seats and they settle for the middle block, yay for me!

The safety demo is played on the PTV, it is a cartoon version and scares the shite out of me - those masks look just like nooses, don’t they:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_15.jpg

This guy looks kind of weird, anatomically speaking:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_16.jpg

Our captain seems to be a bit overeager or maybe this is his first time to JFK as after first announcing our flight time as seven hours he excitedly says that we are ready to push back ahead of schedule. Well, this is JFK so no dice, monsieur! There’s a rush of most of the European departures leaving around this hour, so some 15 minutes later he comes on saying that now there are only two planes behind us and after that it should be our turn for pushback...

Well, I have an excellent view of the departing heavies, so who’s complaining:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_17.jpg

This was funny - the guy actually crashed the lorry on the side of that truck - luckily at a very low speed so apart from a bruised ego and some bent metal nothing bad happened:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_18.jpg

Jonas’ favorite airline was holding here for take off permission quite long - no idea why, maybe they had a mini coup in Morocco and had to renegotiate their bilateral air treaties while the plane was waiting:



User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12975 times:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_19.jpg

I don’t think I’d like to be onboard that bird:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_20.jpg

SN Fleet in the PTV - PlaneHunter, can you spot any mistakes (well apart from the Dashes not being painted to the SN colors at least yet):

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Have you noticed how everybody is nowadays flying A330s:

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Finally fifteen minutes after SDT (we were ready to go five minutes before) we are pushed back.

The Delta commuter terminal uses the portacabin approach here:

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I like how the portacabins attach to the end of the regular jetway after the zig zag:

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I didn’t know Delta Connection also had Jungle Jets:

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I was a bit surprised that the captain didn’t mention anything about the taxi time - these can be quite notorious at JFK. Another sign of him being a newbie (well can’t blame him - this route is just two weeks old).

Figures - the Ezy HQ and hangars are orange, JetBlue’s are - blue:

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Boring, but a great livery though - always loved this raw aluminium look:

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Funny, I was thinking “where’s Finnair” as the daily flight does depart during this bank as well and here it is, in front of us (sorry for the bad photo):

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Finally, 45 minutes after pushback we start our take off run on 22R:

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Hold on, buddy:

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Turning towards Europe over Long Beach:

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Gaining altitude:

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Bye, JFK - I will be back:

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That’s one damn good looking b-let:

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The Airshow seems to have gotten its marbles back and is now behaving as you’d expect it to be, looping between different modes:

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http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_38.jpg

Funny, I thought Mississippi was much further southwest:

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Oh well, let’s put on some nice tunes in the form of Lyle Lovett from the audio part and focus on some trip reports for a while:

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Service on this flight is incredibly slow. Especially the two middle aged blonde women serving my side of the aisle are moving as in slow motion or under water - their counterparts on the other aisle consistently move some ten rows ahead of them! I timed it and I get asked for my drink choice 55 minutes after take off. I decide to go for a “gabrielchew”:

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I actually ask for a double - at first the FA doesn’t understand me at all (one thing I was quite surprised and disappointed of on this flight was the cabin crew’s English language skills - they were quite basic and definitely not up to the “having a nice chat” level - weird!). Once the FA finally gets that I’m asking for seconds, she says “Non!”, and explains something along the lines “Maybe later, we had lot of problems!”. Ok, SN goes down to the same category as KLM - a non drinker friendly airline, minus points from The Finn!

And then starts the long wait for the dinner service. The announce the choices over the PA as “Fish with mashed potatoes or chicken with rice”. Well, I have a fast approaching sunset to admire, so no complaints here:

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Simply beautiful - I cherish these moments.

Quite surprisingly just half an hour after the announcement about dinner service I am asked for my choice. Well I love seafood so I ask for the fish if they have any remaining - luckily they do and I’m handed this - notice the blue mark on top of the tin foil:

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Wait, that doesn’t look like fish to me:

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I summon the FA (not with the call button as obviously that doesn’t work, just flag a passing down, kinda like catching a NYC cab) and explain that I don’t think chicken have yet been gene manipulated into living underwater (or maybe I just say it is chicken, not fish). She looks confused, and then says “They must have made a mistake - the blue is fish!” - I guess she refers to mark on top of the tin foil. Miss 45A is also suffering from the very same problem.

Luckily they manage to locate some spare fish dishes so eventually I get my seafood fix:

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Yay, it’s salmon - I expected some generic white fish but this is better! Unfortunately it is not a very good dish - the salmon is way overcooked and dry and the mashed potatoes look and taste weird. At least the vegetables are hard to ruin.

The appetizer salad is a weird mix of one (!) cherry tomato, some salad leaves and a slimy bunch of some kind of lenses - passable but the texture of the stuff on your mouth is a bit disgusting:

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Yeah right, all natural my arse:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_53.jpg

White wine:

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The dessert is a tasty piece of cake:

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“b fresh” - get it? Hahahhha, hilarious:

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Having a full intention of sleeping as much as possible I select movie I don’t really want to watch but that could be boring enough to act as my lullaby - some weird French comedy about a guy who gets stuck in Africa and finds love (what else) there:

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Heading for the open ocean:

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Johnnie Walker Red to act as a night cap - a second one was promptly delivered after I requested it:

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They do the duty free service - I really wanted to buy this A330 model but they didn’t have any, bugger:

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At some point I fall asleep. Unfortunately thanks to the uncomfortable seat I only manage some two and half hours of sleep, not nearly as much as I’d wanted (but this flight is too short for a proper sleep anyway).

A new day dawning from the east:

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Hello Europe, looks like we took a quite southern transoceanic route as we never overflew Ireland at all:

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I head to the loo to freshen up. Cabin view:

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I think this lit up b logo is very cool, although it does make the toilet look like that of a trendy meatmarket bar:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_64.jpg

Mood lighting in a toilet? Or just a way to keep the narcs at bay?

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Hmm, what’s that mass of clouds down there:

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Oh, it’s England - that figures (also notice out speed, almost 100 km/h tailwind):

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Breakfast is served over England:

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No thank you, I’ve already joined years ago:

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The contents - not terribly impressive but neither it is a particularly long flight:

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Hey, the muffin does come with blueberry filling:

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Coffee accessories, so very “b”-like. They could’ve called the UHT mill “b.lactose” or “b.farty” I guess:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_5/Brussels_72.jpg

b.caffeine:

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The river Thames, the original one this time:

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Right after this we commence our descent. Hello, continental Europe:

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Quite hazy over Belgium, so not very good views of down below.

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It’s not just the US with rows of identical houses:

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Just a few seconds now:

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We touchdown on 25L 6h55mins after taking off from JFK, 45 minutes late. More on this on the conclusions part.

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Colorful:

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Two or three tails:

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Disembarking is surprisingly fast, which is nice. I thank the crew for the flight and head into the jetway. Inside there’s a lady repeatedly yelling “Africa, connections to Africa, turn left”:

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Well, no Africa for me this time so I head for the long walk to arrivals which is a good way to stretch those legs (how come I immediately got this image on my mind of a hottie aerobics teacher on the morning TV in tight spandex saying “Stretch those thiiiiiiighs, girls!”)

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B.immigration couldn’t care less about me or my Finnish ID and I’m thru in a jiffy. Surprisingly the priority tag works again, and my roller is one of the first ones on the belt, well done.

This part will end here.

b.conclusions

Well, AirTran was what I expected it to be - a very standard US domestic airline experience. Nothing outrightly bad, nothing outrightly stellar about them either. Bonus points for the interesting plane type in the form of the 717 and extra bonus points for that lovely purser - such a shame she only worked the business class cabin though! Okay seats, pretty much ontime departure and decent fare.

Another very good experience with Delta, highly punctual, comfortable seating and a quite nice new interior on the plane. Shame about the equipment (and carrier change), but I guess the A319 is at least quite a bit less cramped than the CRJ-700. Also a shame for letting the nice Northwest livery go, I agree with PH that it was a great one...

And then the main course, the new flagship transatlantic service of Brussels Airlines:

The good: The new cabin interior looks fresh and nice. I like the strong b.imago of the company. The mood lighting in the toilet is seriously cool  .

The bad: Those new seats are rock hard, making sleeping very uncomfortable, at least for me. The IFE doesn’t have as many movies and audio choices as many of the competition. The food was mediocre (but I guess this is just a hit and miss). The cabin crew’s English skills were a little questionable.

The ridiculous: They need to work on the scheduling and block times of this flight. We left the gate just 15 minutes late, yet were 45 minutes late on arrival to BRU. The problem here is that an hour in the take off queue at JFK is nothing unheard of, it happens every day. So I think SN needs to increase the block time at least by an hour or so - otherwise this flight will soon have an on-time performance record even worse than your average Blue1 flight. Also the crew should work a bit faster or the service concept should be rethought. It took them over 3 hours after take off to finish with the drink, meal and duty free services. On a 7 hour flight that is a bit too much for those people looking to maximize their sleeping time - especially since the lights are turned off over an hour before arrival too.

All in all it was quite a mediocre way to cross the pond, very, very different from the fab Air Canada experience I had on the other direction. Not a downright bad one, but not an outstanding one either. Hopefully they can iron out most of these problems in the next few months, but there’s not much they can do about the hard product. Better take this flight eastbound (i.e. during the day) and come back with something more comfortable like Air Canada!

The next part will feature the flights to get me back home having now entered the European continent again. BRU-CPH-TLL-HEL is the order of the day. Happy contrails!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12439 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Great to see another part in this North America series!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
it looks like Delta doesn’t have a monopoly on Biscoffs - maybe it’s a requirement for ATL-based airlines:

UA used to have it and perhaps other airlines have it as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, I didn’t know they had one here:

Not surprising; the two 762s originated in BOS.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Economy Comfort once again hits to spot quite nicely here on row 5:

Legroom doesn't look much better than it would in a regular seat. Good that it actually seemed better.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The AirTrain normally runs in two loops, one clockwise and the other counterclockwise. Well, thanks to this only the counterclockwise is running which is really annoying for me as I have to make the full loop

You get the benefit of doing some spotting from the train!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Yay, it’s salmon - I expected some generic white fish but this is better! Unfortunately it is not a very good dish - the salmon is way overcooked and dry and the mashed potatoes look and taste weird. At least the vegetables are hard to ruin

Both meals don't look great and somewhat on the small side. You should be thankful that you are flying AZ to Japan so you will get a much better and substantial meal than on SN.  

Breakfast seem extremely small; almost as small as on my TAAG flight about five years ago. Perhaps SN has consulted TAAG for on board catering ? Although the TAAG dinner was actually nice......

Great also to see that you tried my two favorite beers just a day apart !

Looking forward to the next part !

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12327 times:

Hey there FlyingFinn76, nice report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and AirTran whose 717 sounded equally interesting

Well nice that you for once fly some different 717s than those "bog standard" KF ones that we've seen far too much of.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite an impressive building from the inside as well, although I don’t really like the fact that it is jam packed with retail facilities everywhere:

Looks much identical to your everyday US airport terminal.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I got a huge shock when the girl quoted the price for 6 hours of storage as 48 USD

WTF?! That's criminal for god's sake! Did they have a price chart near the boots? Otherwise you'd might take this discussion with your credit card company.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Taking a train in America is quite a bit different to Europe - in main stations you can’t just walk to the platform to wait for your train (why?)

What's the point of taking a train in the US anyway when they don't offer any benefits over air travel. In Europe the lack of check-in, security, luggage restrictions, and CO2 emissions is the reason why people take trains.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They make some announcements but it is complete gibberish and nobody seems to understand what is being said

So you don't speak conductor then? Didn't know that launguage actually existed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Priceline didn’t yield me anything so I decided to try Hotwire for the first time and for 53 EUR I scored this hotel

Seriously, don't you ever book your hotels like normal people? (e.g Hotels.com or Booking.com) Seems like too much of a gamble to book via Pricewire since you don't know where you'll be ending up. Planning on doing so for the Japan trip?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Heading down to the B pier and my gate I see the trendy rocking chairs have made an appearance here as well:

Hmm, have those been exported from Vantaa Airport?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
N996AT is the reg - of course a new one for my log and my 151th airline as well.

151th, don't you mean your 152nd?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Heck try that with SAS nowadays and they’d charge you money for it!

Get your facts straight Mr. EBG, SAS nowadays serve water for free. Didn't imagine you turning so anti-SAS all of a sudden  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
not that the business lounge downstairs looks shabby or anything.

Well Business Lounges are seldom much to hang in the X-mas tree anyway. Although the Senator Lounge at JFK looked really fab! Wouldn't mind spending a few hours there.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And I thought the A330 was a relatively new plane type, especially the -300 model!

The A330 of yesteryear's and the hotcake bigsellers of today are two completely different planes. The HGW models offer excellent cargo capability and low fuel burn, than the heavy early production models. Speaking of which, I very much look forward to logging the A330-300 HGW in September  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I hate it when people do that:

Oh what a shame, it's always the short people who act like pigs (yes the ones whose heads don't reach over the seatbacks). But I suppose they have never endured the pain of having a seatback squashed to their legs, like tall people have to put out with.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Boring, but a great livery though - always loved this raw aluminium look:

I'm sure you'll enjoy the jetblack finish on your soon-to-be-had AAdvantage Excecutive Platinum Card 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No thank you, I’ve already joined years ago

Miles&More is perhaps the worst frequent flyer programme on the planet. Speaking of which, Lufthansa's relationship marketing strategies SUCK big time. I wonder what Mr. Franz have been smoking these days...

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12252 times:

Nice installment P...now, how are you getting back to Vantaa?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I got a huge shock when the girl quoted the price for 6 hours of storage as 48 USD

Wow, that's pricey. And I though the EUR 7 for a few hours in Rotterdam was expensive last week

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

The reception girl is very jiggy

Um, I think you should check all the definitions of that word!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“On this flight there will be no service in economy, with Delta our customers are always welcome to bring their own food & beverages onboard”

Wow, interesting announcement!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately this guy is kinda large and smelly too - he sleeps throughout the flight but apparently keeps passing gas during his sleep which of course is not very nice for me. Oh, and he also snores. A lot.

Gross

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Security itself is crazy - huge queues and your usual rude, very rude TSA agents.

Looks awful

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anyway luckily the crew does announce “boarding completed” a few minutes later so I tell the mother that they can now move to claim any free seats and they settle for the middle block, yay for me!

Lucky you! Strange a child was seated apart from their mother when ther were empty seats available

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide to go for a “gabrielchew”:

Was it good?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Luckily they manage to locate some spare fish dishes so eventually I get my seafood fix:

Both look rather awful

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Coffee accessories, so very “b”-like. They could’ve called the UHT mill “b.lactose” or “b.farty” I guess:

Hahaha



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1915 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12148 times:
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Good report!

Looks like you had a busy day of traveling to get to Brussels! I am amazed by how crowded the Terminal 1 security line is ... Man! It looks like you're going over a busy travel holiday like Thanksgiving!

I'm always amazed by the lack of food served for the pre-arrival meal into Europe from the US. A muffin and an orange juice?! Couldn't they have come up with something else as well?

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew


User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 575 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11964 times:

Hi FlyingFinn,

Great report, as usual. Glad you found your way to my home airport of BWI. Absolutely love the convenience, it's possible to get from gate to curbside in under five minutes (without checked bags).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
BWI has a huge Southwest presence:

WN accounts for nearly 60% of the passengers carried through BWI.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The Delta commuter terminal uses the portacabin approach here:

Bleh. Deplaning through those things either in the heat of summer or the cold of winter is a total nightmare.

Cheers,

AA94



Choose a challenge over competence / Eleanor Roosevelt
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1658 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11531 times:
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Hi Petteri,

Excellent reading stuff my friend! Sometimes I wonder if you ever do anything else besides writing TR’s? Anyway, if the quality stays on this level: no complaints from this side of the Baltic Sea!

Cool idea to fly the Airtran B717! By the looks of it, the Blue1 cabins appear much nicer (and yes, I know they are recently renovated  ). DL made a very good effort as well and that Y+ section ‘hits the spot nicely’ to quote your own words. Too bad about the equipment change though...

The SN flagship route leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. While I certainly have a soft spot for the home carrier, I cannot help but noticing that the entire experience left some things to desire, mainly the lack of language skills, the hard seating, the smoothieness (pun intended) of the service and indeed the ontime performance. On a positive note: the cabin looks quite nice and the PTV’s are huge!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I seriously considered trying out the Acela high speed train but fares were rather expensive and I could fly for the same amount of money.

Sometimes we have to make these really difficult decisions  That Acela train thing, is that something like the French TGV?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(a plane type I’ve flown only once before with LH Cityline)

I simply cannot believe you only flew this type once?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I got a huge shock when the girl quoted the price for 6 hours of storage as 48 USD - had I known this rip off beforehand I’d left the bags in my hotel instead for free!

Quote: ‘This smells like Finavia to me’! For that price they might as well provide you with a personal luggage guard!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s a free shuttle bus from here to the BWI airport:

That name ‘Marc’ makes me chuckle every time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Have I ever mentioned how I have this love/hate relationship with hotel shuttles?

I’m glad it’s ‘love’ right here right now with this hotel shuttle.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
See, this alarm clock is so DDR retro in an ironic way:

I bet they bought 100 of them for $ 5 or so. What a cheap look.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hmm, that sounds (and looks) good - yummy seafood (sorry, Nils!)

No problem, I cannot smell it so I’m perfectly fine with your craving.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Ahh, the definitive 717 view:

Ha ha, you went for the full audio experience here!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
accessed by a walkway running deep below the apron:

Smells like BRU to me...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, aren’t you a big girl:

And an ugly one as well when viewed from this angle.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I hate it when people do that

Me too. Was it already reclined before departure? I hope not.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sitting down - decent legroom, but the seat is rock hard.

It looks nice and stylish but hard indeed. The blue ‘b’ branding is actually a nice touch here.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Speaking of Africans there are a lot of them onboard - SN is obviously trying to cash in on this travel market thanks to their extensive network to Africa ex-BRU, stepping on Air France’s traditional turf here.

Yes, that’s part of the strategy behind this, luring these African bound pax into BRU and beyond. Plus the fact that every itself respecting airline needs a connection to JFK I guess?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(well apart from the Dashes not being painted to the SN colors at least yet)

All but 1 are painted in SN colours according to my latest inside info  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Luckily they manage to locate some spare fish dishes so eventually I get my seafood fix:

Problem fixed! Still quite disappointed in the speed of the whole service process. Maybe there were some demanding pax?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
one thing I was quite surprised and disappointed of on this flight was the cabin crew’s English language skills - they were quite basic and definitely not up to the “having a nice chat” level - weird!

Hmm, this surprises me some. The language skills should be a major assett at SN! Any idea if the crew was native French or Dutch speaking?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I think this lit up b logo is very cool

Agreed, but in the toilet?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The contents - not terribly impressive

Was that all you got? That’s quite disappointing...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11312 times:

Kudos P.

Another excellent installment of your Canada/US trip !!!

Love the way you write down almost everything in "American English" too  

Rockhard seats on SN ? Had the same experience on Lufty's 744 last month, although it was only on an one hour flight (BKK-SGN)...

"floatation" was the spelling on AirTran or Delta ? Hilarious !!!

Looking forward to your homebound flights via TLL; again, thanks a lot for sharing your excellent TR (love your long series of pictures, esp.)

Cheers,

MH017/Pieter...



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26852 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11171 times:

Hey P nice semi final to your USA adventures.  

Nice domestics but I enjoyed the B flight alot. I actually like the new seats but I guess sitting in one for over 8 hours would maybe make me think different. They actually performed better than I thought. Maybe I didnt have a good impression of them anyway but they seem ok .

I too love their B logo in the toilet . Always like it when an airline does something different rather than just dont bother.

Hopefully they will do well on the route with all the African transit traffic.

Looking forward to the final .

Philip  


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10760 times:

Hi guys, lovely to see so many comments, thank you very much!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 3):
Legroom doesn't look much better than it would in a regular seat. Good that it actually seemed better.

Well, I've actually never sat on a regular Delta seat so I can't really compare  .

Quoting The777Man (Reply 3):
Both meals don't look great and somewhat on the small side. You should be thankful that you are flying AZ to Japan so you will get a much better and substantial meal than on SN.  

Well they still have a lot of time to downgrade their service a few rounds...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 3):
Breakfast seem extremely small; almost as small as on my TAAG flight about five years ago. Perhaps SN has consulted TAAG for on board catering ? Although the TAAG dinner was actually nice......
Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
I'm always amazed by the lack of food served for the pre-arrival meal into Europe from the US. A muffin and an orange juice?! Couldn't they have come up with something else as well?
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Was that all you got? That’s quite disappointing...

Well, I don't think this breakfast is that different to what the major US carriers nowadays serve on US-Europe flights as a breakfast. I remember getting these kind of muffin + juice + coffee breakfasts with AA at least and several reports have featured something similar, IIRC even gabrielchew's MEX-LHR BA flight had just a muffin!

And if you think of the flight time - 7 hours - breakfast is served just 3-4 hours after people have finished with the dinner service so I don't think most pax were that hungry. It was fine for me at least.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 3):
Great also to see that you tried my two favorite beers just a day apart !

Corona and Kirin? Love Corona especially when it hot - so refreshing and easy to drink!


Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Well nice that you for once fly some different 717s than those "bog standard" KF ones that we've seen far too much of.

Yeah, that's not too easy these days actually.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
WTF?! That's criminal for god's sake! Did they have a price chart near the boots? Otherwise you'd might take this discussion with your credit card company.

Well this is well documented on their official price list so no scam here. The only problem is that they didn't quote those prices on website where I checked that they do have a luggage storage facility there.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
What's the point of taking a train in the US anyway when they don't offer any benefits over air travel. In Europe the lack of check-in, security, luggage restrictions, and CO2 emissions is the reason why people take trains.

What? Well that's bollocks and a typical bold Jonas statement. First of all you save a lot of time, there's no security, no real check in and train stations tend to be in the middle of the cities. Secondly the Northeastern Corridor is fully electrified, I think from Richmond VA all the way to Boston and potentially beyond. Then again most of the US electricity is generated in coal and gas burning plants, so that sort of neutralizes whatever effect using electricity has on the greenhouse gas front.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Seriously, don't you ever book your hotels like normal people? (e.g Hotels.com or Booking.com) Seems like too much of a gamble to book via Pricewire since you don't know where you'll be ending up. Planning on doing so for the Japan trip?

What? You as a "man of the cheap" should love them! The thing is that with priceline you usually pay a similar rate than on other booking sites, but end up on one or two star levels up from what you'd gotten with those. And you tend to end up in name brand hotels which I like, I'll take a Hyatt or a Marriott over Hotel Stalingrad or Hotel Allegro any day.

Priceline ain't what it used to be, but there are still bargains to be had if you know how to play the game and do your research in advance. It works the best for US & Canada, Europe is a hit or miss.

Plus I really like the game, it is great trying to work the system to get the optimal rate. And I do like the fact that you don't always know which hotel you are going to get and exactly where.

No Japan, location is very important in the megacities there so no Priceline (not sure if they even have Japan among the countries). I've booked my hotels already, thank you very much.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Hmm, have those been exported from Vantaa Airport?

No. It originated from CLT, remember that.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
151th, don't you mean your 152nd?

No, 151. Delta was #150, thus AirTran is #151. 152 is coming next week.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Get your facts straight Mr. EBG, SAS nowadays serve water for free. Didn't imagine you turning so anti-SAS all of a sudden  

Do they? I thought they were supposed to offer only free coffee and tea.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
The A330 of yesteryear's and the hotcake bigsellers of today are two completely different planes. The HGW models offer excellent cargo capability and low fuel burn, than the heavy early production models. Speaking of which, I very much look forward to logging the A330-300 HGW in September  

What are you talking about?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
I'm sure you'll enjoy the jetblack finish on your soon-to-be-had AAdvantage Excecutive Platinum Card 

You should come home from Morocco, the local plants you keep smoking are no good for you.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Miles&More is perhaps the worst frequent flyer programme on the planet.

What makes it so bad? Because they don't reward cheap ass people like you who buy the cheapest tickets but expect free blow jobs, lounge accesses on the airport bus and constant upgrades to First class?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Nice installment P...now, how are you getting back to Vantaa?

Did you read part 0?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Wow, that's pricey. And I though the EUR 7 for a few hours in Rotterdam was expensive last week

Hah, that's dirt cheap!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Lucky you! Strange a child was seated apart from their mother when ther were empty seats available

Yeah, I thought that as well. Maybe they weren't reading their seat assignments properly.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
I decide to go for a “gabrielchew”:
Was it good?

Well a G&T is hard to ruin but they almost managed - despite the ice it was too warm!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
I am amazed by how crowded the Terminal 1 security line is ... Man! It looks like you're going over a busy travel holiday like Thanksgiving!

Yeah, well you have a lot of widebodies departing within a few hours, including a TK 77W, AF A380, MU A346, CA 744, LH 333, SN 333 plus another couple of AF heavies a bit later and so on - that is several thousand of passengers to clear.

Quoting AA94 (Reply 7):
Great report, as usual. Glad you found your way to my home airport of BWI. Absolutely love the convenience, it's possible to get from gate to curbside in under five minutes (without checked bags).

Yeah, it looked like an okay airport to me, better than most of the US airports I went through on this trip. Although I bet you can't do the five minute dance to the other direction, thanks to TSA!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Excellent reading stuff my friend! Sometimes I wonder if you ever do anything else besides writing TR’s?

Well sometimes I don't - I have a deadline to meet here!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
The SN flagship route leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.

Yeah, it was a mixed bag. Servicewise a mediocre flight, the cabin and the PTV size were nice, but shame about the hard seat.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
That Acela train thing, is that something like the French TGV?

Well it is not as fast, the top speed is only 240 km/h but thanks to the right of ways dug a long, long time ago and inadequate signaling and trackage most of the time they go way slower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela_express

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
I simply cannot believe you only flew this type once?

Well they aren't very common here in the Nordics or even in Europe - LH Cityline is the biggest user and I haven't flown with them much.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
That name ‘Marc’ makes me chuckle every time.

I bet you are not the only one.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
I’m glad it’s ‘love’ right here right now with this hotel shuttle.

Hahaha. Well it being a Southwest airport I guess "LUV" would be the proper term.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
I bet they bought 100 of them for $ 5 or so. What a cheap look.

But in an ironic way so its cool.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Ha ha, you went for the full audio experience here!

Actually I hardly heard anything, thanks to my noise canceling headphones.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
accessed by a walkway running deep below the apron:
Smells like BRU to me...

It was much shorter. And I think deeper as well.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Me too. Was it already reclined before departure? I hope not.

She did put it in upright position after I pointed it out to her.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
All but 1 are painted in SN colours according to my latest inside info  

Aha, so they are going to be around for a while? I thought this was just a short term stopgap measure.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Problem fixed! Still quite disappointed in the speed of the whole service process. Maybe there were some demanding pax?

No idea.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Hmm, this surprises me some. The language skills should be a major assett at SN! Any idea if the crew was native French or Dutch speaking?

Well I didn't really talk with anybody else but the two blonde women serving my section, I think they were French speakers.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 9):
Love the way you write down almost everything in "American English" too  

I do, do I? Haven't noticed.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 9):
Rockhard seats on SN ? Had the same experience on Lufty's 744 last month, although it was only on an one hour flight (BKK-SGN)...

Hmm, I flew a LH 744 back in 2005 so can't really remember. Maybe those weren't even the same seats back then - at least no PTVs!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 9):
"floatation" was the spelling on AirTran or Delta ? Hilarious !!!

Both of these shots are from the same Delta A319, adjacent seats in fact! That's why I thought it was so funny.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Hey P nice semi final to your USA adventures.  

Semi final - I like that  .

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
I too love their B logo in the toilet . Always like it when an airline does something different rather than just dont bother.

Yes, me too.


User currently offlineIdeekay From Switzerland, joined Jun 2012, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10692 times:

Hey FlyingFinn!

Nice and maybe bad that your Trip is going so fast

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite an impressive building from the inside as well, although I don’t really like the fact that it is jam packed with retail facilities everywhere:

Aren't the most bigger Railwaystations like this? I think yes

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

I got an aisle seat for this train ride - well it doesn’t really matter as it is just half an hour or so anyway.

Really looks like an airplane from inside

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

And then I wait. And wait. And wait a little more. The place is quite bad - tons and tons of diesel fumes around with all the buses, shuttle vans and pickup trucks running around plus very noisy with 737 after 737 of Southwest departing from the nearby pier:

Would be a nice Spotterplace

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

The gate has the Southwest-style boarding groups marked with these steel poles:

Strange and doesen't look nice at all

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, gogo is here as well - although AirTran doesn’t give you the 15 minutes for free like Delta, bummer:

So you must pay for internet?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Racing US Scareways

Still remember the safety video...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Walkway towards the other terminals:

Wow so empty

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And this is the memorial itself - looks quite nice actually:

You think that there is something inside or just art?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Heading over the Atlantic for a while before turning back towards the southwest:

Up to Europe! Oh stop..

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Didn’t know JFK too had moon buggies:

Have would be nice if you got a ride on one of those.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Upstairs offers excellent views of the apron between T1 and T2 and one of the departure runways. You can just barely make out my plane as the last of this *A line up:

Very nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

These are the new seat SN so proudly advertises:

Look confy but when I scroll down I see the result  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The large PTV:

Inbuilt iPad? Really looks like

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This guy looks kind of weird, anatomically speaking:

He looks a bit white  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wait, that doesn’t look like fish to me:

But also yummy!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

No thank you, I’ve already joined years ago

Meal looks good, and yes I want join  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Hey, the muffin does come with blueberry filling:

Looks like a Vadelmamunkki and no this isn't translated, I speak finnish language  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Two or three tails:

b.Two!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

They do the duty free service - I really wanted to buy this A330 model but they didn’t have any, bugger:

Had always the same problem with AY, always wanted a MD-11 Model and they never had it and now there aren't any.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

The next part will feature the flights to get me back home having now entered the European continent again. BRU-CPH-TLL-HEL is the order of the day. Happy contrails!

Will watch forward

Greetings
Ideekay


User currently offlinestarrymarkb From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2011, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10507 times:

You went over my part of England  

User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10441 times:

Great TR-as always. Unfortunately, too many pictures; the upload took ages...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
I don%u2019t think I%u2019d like to be onboard that bird:

Whats wrong with eurofly?!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
View of the rear economy cabin:

WOW-Impressive! What a change to its former LTU's interior (no PTV's, no overhead bins, large TV-(non LCD-)screens etc.)!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5136 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10415 times:

Hey, P.,

great to follow the next part of you´re grand summer trip.
Well done, also the pictures.
Count me in with the decision for AirTran and the 717.
Not sure with the A319, but anyway nice flights.
SN, well something to improve here.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Oooh, Porter - I so want to try them out:

Do it, sure interesting and myybe for YTZ.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: How to deliver a present in style!.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10151 times:

Hi P,

great report and lovely pics, especially the ones when you overfly Manhattan (and seen from a distance). Bad memories on my latest trip there, but I'll be back, as you also mention. SN looks quite OK, apart from the less comfortable seating and the staff who are surely not so good. Meal looks ok, breakfast a bit weak imho. Even AA served a better 'breakfast' on JFK-LHR  
I never encountered rude TSA staff yet at JFK, always friendly to me or even making a joke. I had a MS flight to CAI departing around the same time as mine (T4), and same scene with 'those kind of people' being late or causing the 'I am in a hurry' scene at the security check... why this always happen to these middle eastern carriers?! But I've to admit also, my flight pushed back early iirc and arrived early too in Europe. Because they can  

Would love to have Jonas trying out that AT flight accross the Atlantic. And hear his review on that interesting route.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10066 times:

Hi P.,

nice conclusion of your series, I was looking forward to see what SN has to offer in long-haul Y Class in these days. The cabin looks fine, but it seems they chose the wrong kind of seat.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, of course Delta decided to play switcharoo on me again - a few months after booking they changed to plane to a mainline A319, how boring is that?

That's bad luck indeed.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And I thought the A330 was a relatively new plane type, especially the -300 model!

The oldest frames were built in 1992 and are operated by CX.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They have Spaten on tap - this and the T-mobile wifi connection make me feel like I’m back in Europe already:

Spaten? That's impressive.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
SN Fleet in the PTV - PlaneHunter, can you spot any mistakes (well apart from the Dashes not being painted to the SN colors at least yet):

Sure. The A319/320 fleet is powered by CFMs, not by IAEs as suggested on the pictures.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Colorful:

Nice, a very familiar plane.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Also a shame for letting the nice Northwest livery go, I agree with PH that it was a great one...

  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Miles&More is perhaps the worst frequent flyer programme on the planet.

Why exactly? Because it's aimed at real frequent flyers and not the trying-to-get-all-benefits-for-doing-nothing-crowd?

Even though I'm not a "real" frequent flyer I still like it because I get 1 mile for every Euro spent with my M&M MasterCard. And my credit card includes an excellent travel insurance which just prevented me from losing some 1400 Euro during my screwed-up Asia trip.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Speaking of which, Lufthansa's relationship marketing strategies SUCK big time.

Examples?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
I wonder what Mr. Franz have been smoking these days...

What exactly are you referring to? He's trying to keep LH competitive in hard times - that's a tough job. His company is out there to make money, not to make enthusiasts happy.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

Hi Petteri


Thanks for showing us your latest sets of flights. I flew airtran back in 2008 between JAX and ATL and I was very impressed by them.

I followed the SN part with alot of interest. Based on your story they are not that much bettern than the average US carrier longhaul (DL, CO,...). I'm looking into booking that same flight as well in december.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9382 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Why exactly? Because it's aimed at real frequent flyers and not the trying-to-get-all-benefits-for-doing-nothing-crowd?

Well different FFP's cater to different needs.

For a Business traveler flying long haul J the programme might be good, but for those who fly in Europe it's not suited at all. (FTL will be practically useless after Sep 1 when access is no longer given to contract lounges) E.g the 125 miles per flight earnings. Also for the "real frequent flyers" it's not so good anymore, since the Z fares will earn just 100% mileage as opposed to the previous 200%. Many companies with travel contracts book in Z class. So in order to get the full 200% mileage you need to purchase a full fare biz class i.e C, D or J fare, costing nearly as much as an F ticket.

And not to speak of the horribly high "taxes" for award tickets. EUR 600 in "taxes" to redeem your hard earned miles on a long haul. That's more than any other airline in the industry charges. Take SAS for instance who will charge you EUR 80 in taxes on a C award to a long haul destination. Anyways I can go on for hours how bad the programme is, but I'll stop there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Examples?

Well the way they have been treating the HON Circle members lately is beyond acceptance in my opinion. For instancance the inconsistent (or mostly lack of) recognition from the crew. No more HON Circle miles in Y is just plane stupid, since many of those customers fly on full fare flexible Y tickets who will yeild more than Business Class.

Also the way their way of handling complaints and service recoveries is down to the levels of Ryanair.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
What exactly are you referring to? He's trying to keep LH competitive in hard times - that's a tough job. His company is out there to make money, not to make enthusiasts happy.

Well they way they're devaluating the programme is very shortsighted, e.g just a way for them to try and make short term profits, without ever considering the fact that customers might just chose another airline. In the long run having a good relationship to your customers will pay off. Scaring away your SEN and HON customers is not the way to earn money...

I must say that I really admire SAS and their relationship strategies, they are perhaps among the best in the industry (and no I'm not speaking from an enthusiast's point of view).

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9349 times:

1. I can't understand why you find AIR CANADA fab? I have flown them to GVA from NYC and I find them very "average."

2. The meal on the Belgian airline looks great compared to what one get's on a US airline; ie a cookie for desert and lettuce to start; and often no cheese with a main dish that tastes of chemicals.

3.I find that young crews work a lot faster than the 50 to 70 year olds. I am up there myself but I have noticed it on American Airlines in particular. They have more energy which is part of nature.


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9206 times:

Hi folks, good to see more comments, thank you!

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
Nice and maybe bad that your Trip is going so fast

Well this is the way good trips go, right? A sign of you having fun is when time flies.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
Aren't the most bigger Railwaystations like this? I think yes

I bet the Pyongyang station doesn't have much shopping  . Then again it might not have much trains either!

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
he gate has the Southwest-style boarding groups marked with these steel poles:
Strange and doesen't look nice at all

Actually if you've boarded a Southwest flight using this system you'll see it is actually quite ingenious and makes for a nicely organized boarding process. Ryanair could learn a thing or two from them, but then again these poles would be too expensive for Ryanair anyway.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
So you must pay for internet?

Yes.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
You think that there is something inside or just art?

There's actual quite a lot to it, see here: http://www.massport.com/logan-airpor...rt/911%20Memorial/911Memorial.aspx

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
Inbuilt iPad? Really looks like

Hah, good point. No Retina display though.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
Looks like a Vadelmamunkki and no this isn't translated, I speak finnish language  

Yes, you seem to have certain connections to Finland, at least aviation related  .

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
b.Two!

b.correct.

Quoting Ideekay (Reply 12):
Had always the same problem with AY, always wanted a MD-11 Model and they never had it and now there aren't any.

Sorry to say but I have the Santa MD-11 model.

Quoting starrymarkb (Reply 13):
You went over my part of England  

I did? Couldn't see you, it was overcast  .

Quoting debonair (Reply 14):
Whats wrong with eurofly?!

Well I flew their A319 (or 320?) once on a Meridiana flight and it had one of the most uncomfortable seats ever. I doubt the longhaul planes are much better.

Quoting debonair (Reply 14):
WOW-Impressive! What a change to its former LTU's interior (no PTV's, no overhead bins, large TV-(non LCD-)screens etc.)!

I guess they gave them a complete makeover then.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):
I never encountered rude TSA staff yet at JFK, always friendly to me or even making a joke.

Good for you, maybe they bat for the same team as you?  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):
Would love to have Jonas trying out that AT flight accross the Atlantic. And hear his review on that interesting route.

Oh yes, watching movies in the dark all night...  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Spaten? That's impressive.

I thought so too!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Sure. The A319/320 fleet is powered by CFMs, not by IAEs as suggested on the pictures.

I knew you'd spot something! Very impressive.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):
Thanks for showing us your latest sets of flights. I flew airtran back in 2008 between JAX and ATL and I was very impressed by them.

What was so impressive, apart from the 717?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):
I'm looking into booking that same flight as well in december.

Hey, that'll be a nice comparison point! After the route has been running for six months it should've matured somewhat and they've hopefully fixed the initial issues like scheduling.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 20):
1. I can't understand why you find AIR CANADA fab? I have flown them to GVA from NYC and I find them very "average."

Well on this trip the outbound transatlantic flight with them was great, apart from the crap ground handling at BRU. Great crew, decent food, nice plane, good IFE - nothing to complain about. Compared to that the SN flight was much worse.

Every airline has good and bad flights, I guess you just got very unlucky on your particular flight. People have different tastes too, for me a dessert doesn't matter at all - I don't mind an airline not offering any dessert at all if the meal is otherwise sufficient. For you it seems to matter the world, thus you are welcome to rank airlines by their desserts, I will use some other measurement.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9157 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Anyways I can go on for hours how bad the programme is, but I'll stop there.

It makes great sense to make rewards more dependant from the money actually spent. Airlines cannot afford any more in these hard times to offer a great range of benefits to people who use all kinds of tricks to get status rather than flying frequently by using cost-covering tickets. Expect more and more programs to be cut.

The program works fine for me - I couldn't care less about status.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
And not to speak of the horribly high "taxes" for award tickets. EUR 600 in "taxes" to redeem your hard earned miles on a long haul. That's more than any other airline in the industry charges.

Getting an F Class ticket worth some 8000 Euro for 600 Euro is not bad IMO.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Take SAS for instance who will charge you EUR 80 in taxes on a C award to a long haul destination.

How profitable has SK been in the last 15 years?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Well the way they have been treating the HON Circle members lately is beyond acceptance in my opinion. For instancance the inconsistent (or mostly lack of) recognition from the crew. No more HON Circle miles in Y is just plane stupid, since many of those customers fly on full fare flexible Y tickets who will yeild more than Business Class.

I guess there have been too many HON Circle members lately and that may have been too expensive for the company. Don't forget that LH is not a social club. Most programs don't offer such a status at all.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Also the way their way of handling complaints and service recoveries is down to the levels of Ryanair.

Can you elaborate?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Well they way they're devaluating the programme is very shortsighted, e.g just a way for them to try and make short term profits, without ever considering the fact that customers might just chose another airline. In the long run having a good relationship to your customers will pay off. Scaring away your SEN and HON customers is not the way to earn money...

No, LH does definitely not focus on short-term profits - it never has. I'm sure it has carefully evaluated how far it can go with M&M cuts. Don't forget that LH has been facing some serious problems recently (ticket tax, EK&Co expansion, night ban at FRA etc.) and needs to react in order to remain competitive. Other airlines will be forced to follow with similar measures.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
I must say that I really admire SAS and their relationship strategies, they are perhaps among the best in the industry (and no I'm not speaking from an enthusiast's point of view).

Yeah - but how have they been doing in the last 15 years?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
I knew you'd spot something! Very impressive.

It never ceases to amaze me how many mistakes actually show up in inflight magazines - they should ask for consulting!  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8987 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
It makes great sense to make rewards more dependant from the money actually spent. Airlines cannot afford any more in these hard times to offer a great range of benefits to people who use all kinds of tricks to get status rather than flying frequently by using cost-covering tickets. Expect more and more programs to be cut.

Well that's true. The miles are more or less priced at a fixed amount which is reflected in the fare paid. What LH want to achieve with the delavuations of the M&M programme is to increase the yields per each customer, not taking into the account that customers might just pick another airline. Good customer relations is an equally (if not even more) important factor than yeilds. *G these days is very easy to achieve, and the amount of money spent for an A3*G can get you an SK*G, CA*G, UA*G, and more. Not to mention a Flying Blue Gold, or BA Executive Club Silver. Calling it "tricks" is a completely unjustified statement, IMHO.

But yes, bottom line different programmes cater to different needs. So yes calling a programme good or bad is more a matter of opinion than general fact  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
Getting an F Class ticket worth some 8000 Euro for 600 Euro is not bad IMO.

True, for premium cabins paying a fraction of the fare in taxes is a good deal, but how about redemptions on short haul flights? Pretty much all of the times the "taxes" end up costing as much or even more than a regular ticket.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
I guess there have been too many HON Circle members lately and that may have been too expensive for the company. Don't forget that LH is not a social club. Most programs don't offer such a status at all.

Either way a HON Circle member who flies 300K miles per year generates a healthy load of revenue and profit for the airline. The FCL/FCT facilities are already available for First Class, so a couple of extra créme brulees from the buffet, or S-Class rides would still be peanuts in relation to the revenue and profit that these customers bring? If Lufthansa wants to keep the HON Circle programme "exclusive" they better make it "invitation only". That way LH can hand pick the highest yielding customers, and reward them with the perks. Originally the 600K requirement was set as a carrot to encourage people to fly on the LH Group. Chasing those lower yielding customers away is a contradiction in terms.

Speaking of such tiers, quite many airlines offer them. BA, AA, UA, SAS, TG, etc. These are all however by invitation only (with a fixed member count), and they focus not on providing extravagance in the tangible spectrum i.e lounges, limo rides, etc. But more focus the intangibles, to provide those customer with the best possible service and recognition. I think this would be the way for Lufthansa to go.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
Can you elaborate?

Well ironically a Pandion member on SAS who recently flew Lufthansa ex TLS. He had booked a full-fare C ticket six hours prior to departure. Once he was onboard, the purser told him that due to his late booking they hand't loaded enough meals on the flight. So instead he was given a EUR 10 meal voucher to use in the terminal. Of course having paid EUR 1000 for the ticket that was unacceptable, so he wrote a complaint to the customer relations department. In the reply he was given a detailed explanation for why the meal wasn't loaded, but still Lufthansa refused to give him compensation for the lack of meal.

Of course to most sane people with a little common sense this is simply unacceptable. But Lufthansa were strict. The passenger would not be compensated, despite making several attempts asking why. As a result the passenger decided to boycott lufthansa, and urged all his employees to cease all their flying with Lufthansa. A big loss of revenue for the airline.Luckily this situation got an end after some lawyer consultancy, and talks with Lufthansa's Sweden Manager who finally decided that a EUR 100 gift certificate to the LH World Shop was a fair compensation.

LH have a notorious reputation of handling complaints badly. Denying compensation for events that actually should have required compensation is standard practice. Take SAS for comparison who take complaints very seriously, even smaller complaints like rude crews, etc (where you normally don't expect any form of compensation) SAS will give you something, just as a small gesture is all it takes for the service recovery paradox to do its wonders.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
Yeah - but how have they been doing in the last 15 years?

I don't think a few extra glasses of Bailey's in the Scandinavian Lounge have contributed to the bad financial results. Sure, the average EBG yields in less than the average LH Senator, but in the longer run they are still some of the company's biggest assets. Other factors such as high salaries, long term depts, and expensive administration are main contributors to the poor results. For the record, increasing the number of EBG pax is part of the airline's 4Excellence strategy, to increase profitability.

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3867 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8854 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite an impressive building from the inside as well, although I don’t really like the fact that it is jam packed with retail facilities everywhere:

For some of us that live/work/go to school in the area, the retail options are a blessing. The area's somewhat of a food/retail desert. The station's retail options are not just geared towards travelers--there are quite a few government offices and private office buildings within a several block radius of the station (including the senate office buildings) and its mostly workers during the day that patronize the food places for lunch.


25 N766UA : Renovated? Terminal A is new, opened in 2005. It shouldn't be falling apart that fast!
26 roberts87 : Nice report as usual. The Washington Union Station is indeed impressive. I actually did take the Amtrak train from there, all the way up to Boston. On
27 CaptainRed : Hi P., another excellent report. Good to read that you have survived the TSA and have managed to reach European soil again after your American adventu
28 PlaneHunter : What's the source for that statement? Again I'm wondering about the source - individual experience, hearsay, official policy? PH
29 deltamartin : Hey P! Nice report just as usual, good to read about the transatlantic SN flight, and good to hear that they did an okay job at least. I'd like to try
30 Post contains images signol : Nicely done FF, good report as usual! I kind of did these US domestic routes, but all on Amtrak, on my visit there (mentioned before, in 2003) - I bou
31 lukeyboy95 : Hi p, What a great report. Many thanks, I put off reading it for a long time. Somehow Transatlantic flying fails to thrill me. But with your witty wri
32 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi guys, lovely to see more comments, thank you. Sorry for the belated reply, I've been insanely busy and on the road for a long time... Ok, that make
33 deltamartin : Hi again, That's true, I have looked at their fares a couple of times on the route but they have never been good enough on the specific dates I have b
34 Post contains images dkdaviator : Hi FF, Interesting to read about this next part of your journey. Wow, you gotta love such selections being available on the IFE system. Some really ni
35 Post contains images akhmad : Hi P., (I’d left out “Sweetie” before your name) Tammy would make me want to fly AirTran at anytime! Thanks a lot for the extensive review of yo
36 jflchantha : Great Trip report! Being a student in Boston, i wanted to say that Terminal A was rebuilt completely and is the newest terminal at Logan. its also com
37 lukeyboy95 : Yes, I had read about those services. Still, hopefully it is a new chapter. I mean, even Megabus is doing well over Stateside these days! Half a batt
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