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Ya D'ar Brezhoneg, Yes To Brittany: To UIP With BA  
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
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Some time earlier this year, BA Cityflyer announced some new seasonal routes from London City Airport. This was great news for passengers, and the numbers of destinations now served from LCY has increased significantly in the past couple of years. That’s not to say things are all rosy - CPH is no longer served from LCY which is a shame. I hope the link can be re-instated soon.

One of the new routes announced was to Quimper (UIP) in Brittany, in northern France. Where?

Quimper (or “Kemper” in the Breton language) is about 490km west, south west of Paris and while it seems relatively well known amongst French tourists, its not a place that I have ever seen much reference to in English language publications. What is special about Quimper and why did BA decide to offer these new flights? Why not go and find out? My mum was visiting from Australia so I would have a travelling companion for this trip.

Flights are operated only twice weekly - on a Sunday and a Wednesday so not much in the way of frequency. All flights are scheduled with an EM170 and the flight time is just over an hour in each direction.

This short report covers the return portion of the journey from Quimper back to London on BA Cityflyer flight BA8748.

QUIMPER DELIGHTS

We spent a total of 3 nights in Quimper staying at the Best Western Kregenn which is handily located within walking distance to all of the main sights in the town.

Quimper means “confluence” in the Breton language, as it lies at the intersection of three rivers: the Steir, the Odet and the Jet. It is the ancient capital of La Cornouaille, Britanny’s most traditional region. The Breton look and feel is very evident throughout the city, and many signs, including street signs are bilingual - using both French and Breton. Breton itself, I read is closely related to the Welsh and Cornish streams of the gaelic language.


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In sum, I can highly recommend a visit to Quimper. The town is very photogenic, atmospheric with old buildings and cobbled streets, and the locals are very friendly. There are plenty of shops and eating places to keep most people happy. There are also some lovely outdoor cafes to sit and watch the world go by.


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At this time of year, there are lots of gorgeous flowers in bloom all around the town, including along the Odet River on both sides.



The largest building in town is, not surprisingly, the cathedral of St Corentin, dedicated to Quimper’s first bishop. The cathedral was started in the 13th century and it dominates the landscape around it.

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In HDR



To the west of the cathedral is Vieux Quimper with a wide array of crêperies, half-timbered houses and shops.



I can also recommend the hotel. We had a lovely stay and the staff on reception were unfailingly pleasant and polite. There was also a resident French bulldog named Twister who seemed to be a permanent resident as well as “meeter and greeter”! The room was very pleasant, spacious and the bathroom spotless. All windows are double glazed so no noise from downstairs, not that there was much traffic outside.


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THE FLIGHT

July 2012
Quimper (UIP) - London City (LCY)
BA Cityflyer
BA8748
EM170, G-LCYI
Seat: 16D

Here’s the map of the simple route to London City, thanks to Great Circle Mapper.



Quimper’s small airport is about 15 minutes by taxi from the town centre. There are a few local cab companies in town and the fare is approximately €20. There is a local bus service which connects the airport but the impression I got was that this bus service was infrequent at best. Taxis seem to be the only way into town if you arrive by air.

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The airport terminal itself is tiny. Presently the only other flights are the 4 or so Air France CRJ flights to Paris Orly, and in addition to the seasonal flight to London City on BA, Quimper is connected via Air France to Figari, in Corsica for the summer.


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FIDS

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The interior of the terminal consists of a small number of check in desks, an Air France ticket counter, plus an upstairs restaurant with views of the ramp.



Sadly, it’s no good for photos however from up there. It was just as easy to wander around the outside of the terminal to see what was going on. Sadly, not much - other than this Beech King Air which was resting on the ramp.

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ANOTHER RETRO CHECK IN EXPERIENCE

For some reason, no online check in was offered for the return flight so once again, I found myself in a retro scene - at a line at check in, waiting to deposit my bag and obtain a boarding pass. The Wed afternoon flight is scheduled to depart UIP at 1415 and at 1315 the check in staff arrived to start checking passengers in. There would be just over 45 passengers who were flying today and thankfully check in progressed relatively quickly.

DELAYED DEPARTURE

Once checked in, we made our way to Gate 3 (there are 3 gates in total) where we were processed via a tiny immigration booth. Having decided to travel on my recently renewed Australian passport for this trip, the lady behind the counter was surprised to see a non EU passport and had to rummage through a drawer to find a stamp so that I could be stamped out of France. (On the inbound flight, they had no stamp at all and had to go and look for one before being able to let me into France!)

Security was quick and friendly and we then found ourselves in one of two holding pens. For the BA flight, we were directed to the left side (as the right hand side was being reserved for passengers who were travelling on the Air France flight to ORY around the same time that we were due to depart).

Views were limited from here as well although the ramp was very close, so when the Air France CRJ700 landed, its arrival was not missed by anyone! It’s probably the only time I’ve thought of a CRJ being a large aircraft - it was certainly large compared to the surroundings!

The STD arrived and there was still no sign of our little E-jet, so a delay was inevitable. About 15 minutes later, a message over the PA was made to tell us that the flight was delayed due to mechanical issues and weather and would now not be departing until 1600, nearly 2 hours late! A group “sigh” from the passengers but with little we could do, everyone seemed resigned to the wait - staff let passengers go back landside if they wanted to spend time at the restaurant upstairs, which I thought was considerate of them.

Finally at 1530, G-LCYI showed up and its passengers were soon deboarding. I counted just over 50 passengers on the inbound flight which I did not think was too bad for a Wed afternoon flight that had only commenced a month or so ago. Time will tell whether this flight continues next season.

Following the boarding call - all passengers boarded by the front stairs - nice to finally see you little E-jet!

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and were welcomed on board by one of the two flight attendants. I made my way back to 16D and got settled. Here’s the view from there.

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Of course there were two sets of babies/toddlers flying with their families. These days it does not seem to matter what airline, aircraft, time of day, destination, day of the week - there are always small children flying. I never remember children being so mobile! They were mostly well behaved, and even then, the flight was just on an hour, so nothing too unbearable should any of the said children decide to have a screaming tantrum on board.

ON OUR WAY FINALLY

Boarding took next to no time and we were soon on our way - backtracking down the single runway. Safety demonstration was done manually, as is the case on all BA E-jets and the crew did a thorough check to make sure everyone was belted up.

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The cockpit crew added their welcome and apologised for the delay and explained to us that this was due to a mechanical issue with the aircraft (which had now been fixed thankfully) and also due to air traffic control restrictions over northern France.

Take off was powerful and we climbed steeply into the afternoon Brittany sky - lush green landscapes down below.

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Before making a sharp right turn



Shortly after, we would climb above the clouds

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Checking out the seat pocket contents while waiting for the drinks service to begin, here’s the cover of High Life for July - not surprisingly, the feature article is about the London Olympics, just a couple of weeks away now.

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Securite a bord - at least as it is on an EM170



Legroom shot - from 16D, seat pitch was fine for this short flight

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How I passed the majority of the flight - drinks were offered along with the usual sweet or savoury snack. I have a sweet tooth so no guesses which was my choice. Service on board from the two flight attendants was welcoming and friendly - a typical BA shorthaul experience.

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Flying over a Channel Island enroute


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SURPRISE SURPRISE, HEADING FOR A RAINY LONDON

There was a nice flight briefing given by the cockpit crew both on the ground and again when we were on our way. They mentioned that the weather in London was very unsettled and there were storms and heavy showers moving through the area so things might get a little bumpy on descent.

Landfall over the UK was near Dungeness

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Before heading north and sweeping around to make our approach from the east. At this point, the crew asked everyone to fasten our seatbelts as they expected turbulence from here on in.

Heading for the dark clouds!

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We then started to “bounce” our way into LCY, pretty much following the Thames for most of the way.

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At this point, it got very dark inside the cabin as we hit the rain head on. It was pretty awful outside

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Once we passed through the clouds, the Thames came back into view and things were actually less bumpy, even though our speed was slowing

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Home again

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Heading for our parking spot

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Yes, we just flew through that! We had made it home - late, but better late than never. We were home 25 minutes later.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

Flying to Quimper was a new experience for me but as a seasonal route, there is no guarantee the link to London City will be available once this season’s flying is finished. If loads are not good, I can see this flight disappearing. The loads on both of our flights were not overly encouraging but I hope they get better as the summer progresses. However, looking at the positive side, Quimper is a great place to visit if you have a few days holiday and want to go somewhere a little different. The town has loads of character and people there were welcoming and friendly.

The delay on our flight was unfortunate, but the ground staff kept passengers informed along the way and an apology was offered by the crew once we were on our way.

Facilities at UIP are basic but adequate for the volume of flights served.

Getting to Quimper without the LCY connection means quite a long journey via other forms of transport so I really hope the link remains. Kudos to BA Cityflyer for trying something new from LCY and giving customers the chance to go somewhere different.

Thanks for reading and all comments are very welcome.

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Eastern - Number One To The Sun
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User currently offlineIdeekay From Switzerland, joined Jun 2012, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10546 times:

Hey palmjet!

What a short Report but always nice to see some photos of the town!
Quimper looks really like an old french town which stayed somewhere in 1800 or whatever..  

The Embraer 170 looks great in BA livery I must say
How was the load?
Greetings
Ideekay

[Edited 2012-07-14 11:00:24]

User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10518 times:

You got this one posted quickly!! Must admit Quimper wasn't somewhere I'd heard of until i saw that BA announced they would start flying there a couple of months ago. Looks like an interesting place to visit though.


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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10496 times:

Hi Ideekay

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What a short Report but always nice to see some photos of the town!
Quimper looks really like an old french town which stayed somewhere in 1800 or whatever..

Thanks for your comments. Agree - parts of the town look like they have been frozen in time. It's very rustic and bucolic.

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How was the load?

There were approx 45 passengers on the return flight. Not a brilliant load but I am not sure what the expected loads are likely to be, especially for a mid week flight.

Hi J

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You got this one posted quickly!! Must admit Quimper wasn't somewhere I'd heard of until i saw that BA announced they would start flying there a couple of months ago. Looks like an interesting place to visit though.

Yes - much quicker than usual! I had very little knowledge about Quimper before as well. It was a great place to explore. I can certainly recommend it! Cheers



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3274 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10487 times:

Very nice report! Thansk for posting!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of the new routes announced was to Quimper (UIP) in Brittany, in northern France. Where?

I was quite excited when I heard that BA were going to start up Quimper, mostly because I thought the code might have a Q at the start, the only letter in the alphabet mising from my airport list!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The Breton look and feel is very evident throughout the city, and many signs, including street signs are bilingual - using both French and Breton.

I had no idea that Breton was that important - nice to see

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Once checked in, we made our way to Gate 3 (there are 3 gates in total) where we were processed via a tiny immigration booth. Having decided to travel on my recently renewed Australian passport for this trip, the lady behind the counter was surprised to see a non EU passport and had to rummage through a drawer to find a stamp so that I could be stamped out of France. (On the inbound flight, they had no stamp at all and had to go and look for one before being able to let me into France!)

I was going to say, that must be the easiest immigration job in the world. 2 hour long shifts a week, with the majority being EU citizens

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
not be departing until 1600, nearly 2 hours late!

Oh dear, not good. No snacks or anything supplied?



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10352 times:

What a beautiful report. What can I possibly say about the photos? A truly magical place. My wife and I have been wanting to visit Brittany for awhile now so looking at your photos was in fact rather ...painful, as we know we can't go there for at least the next year or so.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of the new routes announced was to Quimper (UIP) in Brittany, in northern France. Where?

Ha, that's exactly what I thought too. I take pride in my geography knowledge but I have to admit that I've never heard of the place before. I therefore owe a thank you for not only entertaining me with this report but for also educating me in French geography.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Quimper (or “Kemper” in the Breton language) is about 490km west, south west of Paris and while it seems relatively well known amongst French tourists, its not a place that I have ever seen much reference to in English language publications. What is special about Quimper and why did BA decide to offer these new flights? Why not go and find out? My mum was visiting from Australia so I would have a travelling companion for this trip.

Yeah, I wonder why BA decided to serve this destination, from LCY no less? What kind of demographic is expected to visit Brittany from central London? As you said I hope they keep this route going. I may need to use it in the future  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
staff let passengers go back landside if they wanted to spend time at the restaurant upstairs, which I thought was considerate of them.

Thumbs up! That's very nice of them.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Of course there were two sets of babies/toddlers flying with their families. These days it does not seem to matter what airline, aircraft, time of day, destination, day of the week - there are always small children flying.

I know, right? There is an epidemic of baby travelers lately here in the US too. I'm glad to hear that the kids on your flight were well behaved. I haven't been as lucky, especially in my last 2-3 trips.


Thanks again P/J!

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10325 times:

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
If loads are not good, I can see this flight disappearing. The loads on both of our flights were not overly encouraging but I hope they get better as the summer progresses.



Seems to be normal for BA Cityflyer- I flew last December from Chambery/France on a nearly empty (AFAIK 18pax) service to LCY! Somebody within the scheduling department must have a heart for French regional airports!


User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9952 times:

Hi Palmjet;

Another top quality report from you. I've a special place for the BA LCY E-Jets so it is always good to see. The service looked just fine for the sector. I'd heard of Quimper... but vaguely in the halls of my cluttered mind.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I never remember children being so mobile!

It is extraordinary. I've friends that are happy to take their kids LHR-AKL at 1 year old. I don't really agree with it - not from a disruption point of view, but is it required? I plan to take my hopeful children on domestic holidays in the UK for at least the first 5 years!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 5):
Yeah, I wonder why BA decided to serve this destination, from LCY no less? What kind of demographic is expected to visit Brittany from central London?

Oh - I think there is a massive population of affluent British in this area of France. 'Off to our house in France' is a pretty common phrase amongst the elite of England. I think as word spreads, BA will be able to fill planes on this market alone.

Time will tell, but given the ex-pat Brit population and otherwise substandard connections, I think they could find a way with this route. Oh, and alot of potential passengers will be on FR's service's out of STN. An unhappy marriage which BA could begin the divorce procedings with.

Regards,

Luke



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9839 times:

Hi PJ,

Great to see this little report about a destination which I think has never been covered before and anyway is a bit out of the beaten path for everyone but the most hardcore of Francophiles (or the French themselves).

As I mentioned Quimper gives me the shivers thanks to one of the most disgusting scenes in literature I've ever read taking place there, but don't hold that against it! It looks like a very lovely town, no wonder the French are trying to keep it to themselves! Some of those scenes remind me of Strassburg.

The Cityflyer flight looks okay, quite minimal offerings actually but it is short flight anyway.

Oh, great work with Aperture as well, experimenting with B&W images with color highlights!

And finally very nice for you to treat your mom into something like this. Good boy.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
What is special about Quimper and why did BA decide to offer these new flights?

Yeah, when I learned of the new route it seemed to be a very oddball route to me. I guess they are trying to cash in on the loaded City folk who've bought/hired holiday homes in Bretagne. Definitely beats doing CityJet/AF via ORY!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
the lady behind the counter was surprised to see a non EU passport and had to rummage through a drawer to find a stamp so that I could be stamped out of France. (On the inbound flight, they had no stamp at all and had to go and look for one before being able to let me into France!)

I've never really understood why they have to do this for foreign passports anyway? In the age of computers and digitalized information a stamp seems to be an awfully old fashioned way of keeping track if exits and entries to a country.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
SURPRISE SURPRISE, HEADING FOR A RAINY LONDON

Is that a really surprise? I'd be more surprised if it would be sunny!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9825 times:

Great report, thanks for sharing. Quimper seems like an nice litte town, interesting choice of destination for BA!

User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 688 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9792 times:

Hi Palmjet,

lovely little report here to a rather unusual and interesting location. I have been to Quimper once long ago by car and I have some nice memories from it. But to be honest I had no idea that they have scheduled air service from there. Let's hope the route to LCY will succeed and will stay.

You have made some beautiful pictures there with the black and white and the color effects, well done.

Greetings
CaptainRed


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9525 times:

Hi G

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Very nice report! Thansk for posting!

Thanks very much!

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I was quite excited when I heard that BA were going to start up Quimper, mostly because I thought the code might have a Q at the start, the only letter in the alphabet mising from my airport list!

lol, well the code does not seem to make a lot of sense - I tried to look into where the UIP may have come from, without success.

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I had no idea that Breton was that important - nice to see

There seems to have been resurgence in making sure the language does not die out, similar to what we've seen in other gaelic speaking parts in Europe. It certainly gives the area a unique feeling.

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I was going to say, that must be the easiest immigration job in the world. 2 hour long shifts a week, with the majority being EU citizens

Yes! The staff there seem to have it pretty good although we did throw them into a spin with our Australian passports!!

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Oh dear, not good. No snacks or anything supplied?

Nothing was offered, other than to let passengers to back out landside if they wanted to and to the restaurant (which looked pretty decent actually).

Hi WBR

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What a beautiful report. What can I possibly say about the photos? A truly magical place. My wife and I have been wanting to visit Brittany for awhile now so looking at your photos was in fact rather ...painful, as we know we can't go there for at least the next year or so.

Thank you. I hope you both can get to Brittany some time. Sorry it was painful but hopefully you can plan something for one of your upcoming Euro flights!

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Ha, that's exactly what I thought too. I take pride in my geography knowledge but I have to admit that I've never heard of the place before. I therefore owe a thank you for not only entertaining me with this report but for also educating me in French geography.

  Glad it served a dual purpose! I was the same - I had never heard of Quimper before this trip.

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Yeah, I wonder why BA decided to serve this destination, from LCY no less? What kind of demographic is expected to visit Brittany from central London? As you said I hope they keep this route going. I may need to use it in the future

Perhaps Brits with second homes in northern France. The loads were not brilliant but as the flights have only just started, it may take a while for the word to get around. I hope the route stays - even if it remains seasonal as the time it cuts off getting to London is quite significant - it otherwise means car/train and boat!

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I know, right? There is an epidemic of baby travelers lately here in the US too. I'm glad to hear that the kids on your flight were well behaved. I haven't been as lucky, especially in my last 2-3 trips.

Nothing that noise cancelling headphones won't fix - these are now mandatory in my hand luggage!

Thanks again

Hi Debonair

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Seems to be normal for BA Cityflyer- I flew last December from Chambery/France on a nearly empty (AFAIK 18pax) service to LCY! Somebody within the scheduling department must have a heart for French regional airports!

Agree! I think that's quite possible. I know BA are looking at all kinds of solutions to keep up the utilisation of those E-jets and kudos to them for trying something different.

Hi Luke

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Another top quality report from you. I've a special place for the BA LCY E-Jets so it is always good to see. The service looked just fine for the sector. I'd heard of Quimper... but vaguely in the halls of my cluttered mind.

Thanks very much! Me too - I have always enjoyed my BA E-jet experience. There were a couple of British school groups at Quimper when we were there so wonder whether it's on the map for French students at UK schools?

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It is extraordinary. I've friends that are happy to take their kids LHR-AKL at 1 year old. I don't really agree with it - not from a disruption point of view, but is it required? I plan to take my hopeful children on domestic holidays in the UK for at least the first 5 years!

That's exactly what happened in my family - my parents never dreamed of dragging us across the world at that age. I accept that it's a personal choice but taking kids that age long haul must be so exhausting for both parent and child.

Thanks again!

Hello FlyingFinn76

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Great to see this little report about a destination which I think has never been covered before and anyway is a bit out of the beaten path for everyone but the most hardcore of Francophiles (or the French themselves).

Thanks! It was surprising to see how many French tour groups were there. I hope more people from outside France get a chance to visit with this new albeit seasonal route.

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As I mentioned Quimper gives me the shivers thanks to one of the most disgusting scenes in literature I've ever read taking place there, but don't hold that against it! It looks like a very lovely town, no wonder the French are trying to keep it to themselves! Some of those scenes remind me of Strassburg.

I had to research your literature comment. Having said that, I could not find anywhere about it being set in or around Quimper!?

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Oh, great work with Aperture as well, experimenting with B&W images with color highlights!

Lots of time to play around with some features on my new camera!

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And finally very nice for you to treat your mom into something like this. Good boy.

Thank you! She really enjoyed it too.

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Yeah, when I learned of the new route it seemed to be a very oddball route to me. I guess they are trying to cash in on the loaded City folk who've bought/hired holiday homes in Bretagne. Definitely beats doing CityJet/AF via ORY!

That's what I thought - my original plan was however to fly into UIP on BA, and then fly out of AF (CRJ700 - would have been a new subtype for my log) back via ORY. As I was with mother, I decided to kill the multi stops!

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I've never really understood why they have to do this for foreign passports anyway? In the age of computers and digitalized information a stamp seems to be an awfully old fashioned way of keeping track if exits and entries to a country.

Good point - but I love collecting stamps so hopefully they keep doing this for a little while longer...

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Is that a really surprise? I'd be more surprised if it would be sunny!

Nope! It was not a surprise at all. A little irony about our amazing British summer so far..

Thanks for your comments!

Hi roberts87

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Great report, thanks for sharing. Quimper seems like an nice litte town, interesting choice of destination for BA!

Thanks for that. Glad you enjoyed the report. It was a great place to visit!

Hi CaptainRed

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lovely little report here to a rather unusual and interesting location. I have been to Quimper once long ago by car and I have some nice memories from it. But to be honest I had no idea that they have scheduled air service from there. Let's hope the route to LCY will succeed and will stay.

Thanks very much - the airport was tiny and I was also surprised by the number of daily flights to ORY on AF. There seemed to be at least 4 daily flights, in addition to the seasonal connections.

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You have made some beautiful pictures there with the black and white and the color effects, well done.

Thanks! Glad you liked them. I am experimenting with my new camera at the moment. It's been a lot of fun.



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9493 times:

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
my parents never dreamed of dragging us across the world at that age. I accept that it's a personal choice but taking kids that age long haul must be so exhausting for both parent and child

Yes, of course, a personal choice. But if you have ever not swallowed to pop your ears when your flying, then you'll know what a wee kid might be going through. TBH, I am surprised it is not more frowned upon, especially as you say, regarding the stress. Of course 4yrs + and kids adore flying!



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9188 times:

Hey Luke

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Yes, of course, a personal choice. But if you have ever not swallowed to pop your ears when your flying, then you'll know what a wee kid might be going through. TBH, I am surprised it is not more frowned upon, especially as you say, regarding the stress. Of course 4yrs + and kids adore flying!

Totally agree - but why subject to your child to such painful ear problems on departure and descent if the child is too young to be able to do anything about it? I marvel at parents who are brave enough (and have the stamina) to take their very young children on longhaul flights. I was on a Sydney - London flight a few years back and one of the babies onboard cried and grizzled pretty much the whole way and by the time we landed in London - the poor mum looked so frazzled !

Thanks again! P-jet



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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3006 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

Hi Palmjet,

nice report about a not much seen route! I only visited Quimper, briefly, many years ago whilst on a road trip around Brittany, so didn't see the airport. Very photogenic it is too, the town centre. I believe we stayed in a Hotel F1 / Premiere Classe / B7B Hotel, or some such, out by the bypass...

Flight looks ok, much what you would expect from BA intra-Europe. Not much more to say! From your description, the pair of holding pens seem to be similar to the setup at Antwerp.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 11):
That's exactly what happened in my family - my parents never dreamed of dragging us across the world at that age. I accept that it's a personal choice but taking kids that age long haul must be so exhausting for both parent and child.

As you'll probably have read from my previous reports, we've taken our kids every year since birth to South Africa, to visit the grandparents - youngest age was 6 weeks. As for the ear problem, it's just a matter of making sure they are eating / drinking on ascent and descent. Bottle of water / milk for the infant, a big bag of sweets for the older one   Make sure they are well entertained, fed and watered, and it is unlikely there will be tantrums. It does require a lot of preparation though! Of the 37 flights our 3 year old has been on, I only recall one where he cried a lot.

Thanks again.

signol



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8550 times:

Hello Palmjet

Great trip report. Nice to see a LCY departure without the gate-21 luck  .
Quimper seems to be a nice place to hang out for a few days, great scenery.
the BA flight seems to be nice as well, apart of the eventfull landing in LCY.
Weather looks bad over there.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8470 times:

Hi Palmjet,

great report, and my compliments for some beautiful pictures from Quimper town! Looks like worth a visit indeed.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Some time earlier this year, BA Cityflyer announced some new seasonal routes from London City Airport.

Good to know. Interesting stuff for aviation enthiousiasts as well. Would love to take this route myself.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of the new routes announced was to Quimper (UIP) in Brittany, in northern France. Where?

Haha., such a place like Brive-la-Guillarde? See my report Fly To Brive Dordogne Valley On AF-Cityjet RJ-85 (by airbuseric Jul 15 2012 in Trip Reports), another 'unknown' place in France I recently flew to.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
All flights are scheduled with an EM170 and the flight time is just over an hour in each direction.

Quite big equipment but they don't have smaller these days. Maybe the Saab 2000 they operate to IOM would suit better on this route?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
For some reason, no online check in was offered for the return flight so once again, I found myself in a retro scene - at a line at check in, waiting to deposit my bag and obtain a boarding pass.

Same experience as I received on my AF/Cityjet flight, returning from France ex BVE.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1722 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8210 times:
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Hello pj,

Nice and interesting little report. Good to see you taking your mum with you to Brittany, it’s a nice region - weather permitting of course. I’ve been a few times there - not to Quimper mind you - but every single time we were chased by rain unfortunately.

Kudos to BA Cityflyer indeed for trying this route. Indeed the load looks quite healthy, I guess a full house is not to be expected on these type of nice operations. Good service and a some excitement thrown in with the turbulent arrival into LCY. I hope there weren’t too many nervous flyers on board!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
That’s not to say things are all rosy - CPH is no longer served from LCY which is a shame.

A shame indeed. Were the loads no good?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Where?

Quimper, you said it yourself 

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
There are a few local cab companies in town and the fare is approximately €20.

Ouch, that’s steep for a 15 min drive!

Sultanils



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8168 times:

Hi Palmjet!

Nice report again!
Nice to see BA try out such a unique route from LCY, I guess they gotta keep their planes moving somehow during the Business-travel slow-season!  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
In sum, I can highly recommend a visit to Quimper. The town is very photogenic, atmospheric with old buildings and cobbled streets, and the locals are very friendly.

It does indeed seem like a beautiful town.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
G-LCYI

That was the first Embraer I ever flew, and the only aircraft I have ever experienced a go-around in!  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
We then started to “bounce” our way into LCY, pretty much following the Thames for most of the way.

Sounds just like my landing at LCY!

Martin


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1826 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8122 times:

Hi Palmjet

Thanks for the interesting report. Looks like BA is doing a bit of experimenting out of its LCY hub. And what an exotic destination. I was not even aware of the act that Quimper had an airport!

I really enjoyed the beautiful pictures you took of the city. Quimper certainly looks as though it might be worth a visit.

Thanks for posting!

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8076 times:

Hey, PJ,
great to read more about "rural" France. Superb pictures.
I really like it this way.
Places you not see here that often, but anway worth a direct flight from London.
Something more this way will come up soon from my hand.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7893 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Another example of a nice "exotic" French destination, there certainly are a few of them about. You took some really lovely photos - very artistic - and Quimper looks like a place worth visiting.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I found myself in a retro scene - at a line at check in, waiting to deposit my bag and obtain a boarding pass.

It's quite unnerving when you have to check-in the conventional way, isn't it?!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
At this point, it got very dark inside the cabin as we hit the rain head on. It was pretty awful outside

You got some moody pictures there!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6931 times:

Hi Palmjet,

great report with many stunning pictures, I like the artistic style! Sorry for the late reply, I must have missed this report.


PH



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

Hey there Palmjet, nice report!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
My mum was visiting from Australia so I would have a travelling companion for this trip.

That's nice for a change, traveling with the mummy. Hope she recovered well from that little SQ mishap  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
using both French and Breton. Breton itself, I read is closely related to the Welsh and Cornish streams of the gaelic language.

That's one strange language. Is it widely used, or is french the language of choice by most of the locals?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The town is very photogenic,

It sure looks so. Really love your pics, especially with that stunning sharpness. Good job! 
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
There was also a resident French bulldog named Twister who seemed to be a permanent resident as well as “meeter and greeter”!

I hope he wasn't much of an inconvenience for the pet allergies, or were they told to chose another hotel?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Sadly, not much - other than this Beech King Air which was resting on the ramp.

Suppose that was a privately owned plane, and not a commercial one? If not, I'm sure it would've made a fun side-trip.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Legroom shot - from 16D, seat pitch was fine for this short flight

Must say that the pitch on the BA Embraer looks very tight, or well at least tighter than on my LOT flights. But then again you're quite a lot taller than me  

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6600 times:

Hi everyone - thanks for your further comments. Sorry for taking so long to post a response.

Hi signol

Quote:
nice report about a not much seen route! I only visited Quimper, briefly, many years ago whilst on a road trip around Brittany, so didn't see the airport. Very photogenic it is too, the town centre. I believe we stayed in a Hotel F1 / Premiere Classe / B7B Hotel, or some such, out by the bypass...

Thanks for your comments. Ah, so it's not so unknown after all - especially if another a.netter has been there! The centre of town very small and compact and perfect for wandering.

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Flight looks ok, much what you would expect from BA intra-Europe. Not much more to say! From your description, the pair of holding pens seem to be similar to the setup at Antwerp.

Yep - it was a standard affair on BA Cityflyer. Pretty consistent these days - I've yet to have a bad flight with Cityflyer.

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As you'll probably have read from my previous reports, we've taken our kids every year since birth to South Africa, to visit the grandparents - youngest age was 6 weeks. As for the ear problem, it's just a matter of making sure they are eating / drinking on ascent and descent. Bottle of water / milk for the infant, a big bag of sweets for the older one Make sure they are well entertained, fed and watered, and it is unlikely there will be tantrums. It does require a lot of preparation though! Of the 37 flights our 3 year old has been on, I only recall one where he cried a lot.

You're a star - I don't know how you do it! You're probably also one of the seemingly few parents who prepare your kids for the long journey.

Thanks again - Palmjet

Hi Marc

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Great trip report. Nice to see a LCY departure without the gate-21 luck .
Quimper seems to be a nice place to hang out for a few days, great scenery.
the BA flight seems to be nice as well, apart of the eventfull landing in LCY.
Weather looks bad over there.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, no Gate 21 for me this time. Phew. The weather this summer has been mostly terrible - although we had a brief respite during the Olympics!

Cheers!

Hi Eric

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great report, and my compliments for some beautiful pictures from Quimper town! Looks like worth a visit indeed.

Thanks for your comments. I loved Quimper - it's a very photogenic town if you have a camera in hand. I would highly recommend it.

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Haha., such a place like Brive-la-Guillarde? See my report Fly To Brive Dordogne Valley On AF-Cityjet RJ-85 (by airbuseric Jul 15 2012 in Trip Reports), another 'unknown' place in France I recently flew to.

Loved your report - very nice to see CityJet also trying out something different.

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Quite big equipment but they don't have smaller these days. Maybe the Saab 2000 they operate to IOM would suit better on this route?

Yes - you're right, perhaps the Saab would be a better fit. I've heard that BA are intending to run this service again next summer so overall, it must be showing some signs of promise!

Thanks again

Hi Nils

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Nice and interesting little report. Good to see you taking your mum with you to Brittany, it’s a nice region - weather permitting of course. I’ve been a few times there - not to Quimper mind you - but every single time we were chased by rain unfortunately.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, mum really enjoyed the trip. She's now back in Australia. I think it rains quite a lot there so we were mostly lucky to have a lot of dry weather.

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Kudos to BA Cityflyer indeed for trying this route. Indeed the load looks quite healthy, I guess a full house is not to be expected on these type of nice operations. Good service and a some excitement thrown in with the turbulent arrival into LCY. I hope there weren’t too many nervous flyers on board!

I agree - nice to see them trying something different. I heard they are going to operate the route next summer as well. No nervous flyers that I could see on the flight thankfully (and nobody was puking either, which was a good thing!)

Hi deltamartin

Quote:
Nice report again!
Nice to see BA try out such a unique route from LCY, I guess they gotta keep their planes moving somehow during the Business-travel slow-season!

Thanks for your comments too. I read that Cityflyer keep their planes quite busy in the summer too during quite a few weekend charters. I saw a BA EM170 in MAN this past weekend.

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That was the first Embraer I ever flew, and the only aircraft I have ever experienced a go-around in!

Lucky you! I've only ever had one go-around and that was in CPH earlier this year. Thanks again!

Hi William

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Thanks for the interesting report. Looks like BA is doing a bit of experimenting out of its LCY hub. And what an exotic destination. I was not even aware of the act that Quimper had an airport!

I really enjoyed the beautiful pictures you took of the city. Quimper certainly looks as though it might be worth a visit.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, quite interesting to see what they are up to. I wonder what new routes might appear next summer? Quimper is certainly worth having a look - even if you combine it with a tour of the region.

Hi Markus

Quote:
Hey, PJ,
great to read more about "rural" France. Superb pictures.
I really like it this way.
Places you not see here that often, but anway worth a direct flight from London.
Something more this way will come up soon from my hand.

Thanks for your comments - yes, I have enjoyed your recent wanderings very much too. Glad you enjoyed the report on a part of rural France - it was very different to the other parts of France I have visited - which have been mostly big cities!

Hi Hannah

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Hi Palmjet,

Another example of a nice "exotic" French destination, there certainly are a few of them about. You took some really lovely photos - very artistic - and Quimper looks like a place worth visiting.

Thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed. Summer seems to be the time for some different French destinations from the larger hubs of London, Amsterdam etc! I would definitely recommend a visit there.

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It's quite unnerving when you have to check-in the conventional way, isn't it?!

It was a total blast from the past and felt weird - totally agree!

Happy flying - thanks again

Hi PlaneHunter

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great report with many stunning pictures, I like the artistic style! Sorry for the late reply, I must have missed this report.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it - no worries. I think it was posted when you were in retirement. So pleased to see you back here.

Hej Jonas

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That's nice for a change, traveling with the mummy. Hope she recovered well from that little SQ mishap

Yes, unusual to be travelling with her, but she really enjoyed it, and had a great flight home with SQ (thanks FB!)

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That's one strange language. Is it widely used, or is french the language of choice by most of the locals?

It seems to be widely used at least on paper - although I only ever heard people speaking French. Like other Gaelic speaking countries, retaining the language has been an uphill struggle, but fair play to the Brittany people. They are very proud of their heritage for sure.

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It sure looks so. Really love your pics, especially with that stunning sharpness. Good job!

Thanks!

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Suppose that was a privately owned plane, and not a commercial one? If not, I'm sure it would've made a fun side-trip.

Looked like a privately owned aircraft. I'll be on a King Air in a few weeks (not a Super King Air though as in this pic).

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Must say that the pitch on the BA Embraer looks very tight, or well at least tighter than on my LOT flights. But then again you're quite a lot taller than me

I found it totally fine for a 50 min flight. I am not expecting much more these days.

Thanks again for all your comments. Cheers Palmjet



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25 allrite : Darn you Palmjet for another scenic journey. Now I want to go to Quimper after seeing your photos, though I think I'll catch the train. Already pinpoi
26 Post contains images abrelosojos : What a riot of a report! Thanks for taking the time to document. I am always impressed to read TR's when I don't know the airport code . Saludos, A.
27 palmjet : Hi allrite Ha! Sorry about that. Happy planning your Brittany trip! Yes, to be honest I was more transfixed with the views outside the window than rea
28 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Thank you! PH
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