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Mallorca Bound On An A(B)333: BRU-STR-PMI  
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1742 posts, RR: 30
Posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13654 times:
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Introduction

Note: I will split this report in 2 parts for your reading comfort   This part contains the first 2 of 4 flights taken that day.

The amount of intra-Europe widebody flights is quite scarce. Most flights within Europe and beyond - even medium longhaul ones - are operated by narrowbody aircraft. Sure, there are some nice widebody flights in Europe to get yourself onto: LA, KU, SQ amongst others.

Always on the lookout for something different, I noticed that Air Berlin also does some intra-Europe widebody flights, namely to the popular Spanish holiday island of Palma de Mallorca, operating the A332 and A333. As you may or may not know, tons of tourists of German and other descent fly out to this destination of fun and sun practically all throughout the year. Needless to say that the amount of flights offered ex-Germany is impressive.

While browsing the schedules and fares on AirBerlin.com it became apparent that STR, CGN, MUC, DUS, FRA amongst others were regularly visited by an Air Berlin A330. Seeing STR in that list reminded me of the fact that since May 2012, the Lufthansa route between BRU and STR was given in the hands of Germanwings, which is part as well of the Lufthansa group. Having never ever set foot on a Germanwings plane as well I thought it would be great to combine both Germanwings and Air Berlin to get me to PMI.

Timings were very favorable for a daytrip so a BRU-STR flight with Germanwings was booked for € 47, together with a STR-PMI-BCN flight on Air Berlin - with STR-PMI operated by an A333 - for € 119.
Then 1 thing remained: getting home from BCN to BRU. Brussels Airlines and Vueling both had suitable departures in the evening but the price with Brussels was already skyhigh so I had to settle with Vueling for € 89.

To sum it up: 3 new airlines, 1 new type (A333), 1 new airport (STR) and - more importantly - enough connection time to allow me some relative peace of mind   I was also in contact with the founding member of Tripreporter Productions Inc, namely a.netter FLIEGER67, who kindly agreed to a meet and greet at STR.

BRU-STR on Germanwings’ A319
STR-PMI on Air Berlin’s A333
PMI-BCN on Air Berlin’s B738
BCN-BRU on Vueling’s A320

And on a map (thanks to the excellent www.gcmap.com, copyright Karl L Schwartz):


Brussels Airport - BRU

Having done OLCI the day before - Vueling does allow you to check in 7 days in advance and Germanwings 3 days in advance - and with the morning duties duly done I hop on the bike and arrive at my usual parking spot at


o’clock.
The main FIDS - which is of the rolling type, don’t you just love that - shows that all is fine for me right now:


There are not too much people around this morning due to it being Mother’s Day and an official holiday in Belgium so my passage through security is swift and happy. On my way there I see some advertisement that I think fellow a.netter OA260 amongst others will appreciate:


This area will most likely change a lot in the near future as BRU starts another major building project soon called ‘The Connector’:


Some photos of how that’ll look like can be found here. I grab the obligatory bottle of water and a dry croissant to-go and proceed for my usual stroll up and down the terminal. Next to the gate where my flight should be leaving from, sits this one, awaiting that one last passenger. ‘Just a little bit, yes!’ I answer the gate agent when she asks me ‘MAD sir?’  I’ve taken this very flight a few times when traveling to Peru and Mexico on Iberia some years ago:


Must-have-an-A330-in-a-report. Arriving from the J-oF-K, dedicated to FlyingFinn76 and MSS658:


Some interesting advertising here:


A few minutes before schedule, the expected silver-yellow-burgundy A319 turns into the gate:


This brave worker pulls the umbilical cord out of the ground to provide the plane with the needed energy:


The turnaround is pretty quick and by the looks of it, the load will be extremely light this morning.


BRU to STR
4U2161
A319 D-AKNS
STD-STA 8:35-9:40
Y class
seat 25A


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Photo © Gerry Stegmeier



A mixed crew of 3 - male, female, black, white - awaits us, not happy not sad, just business friendly as one would say   Most people sit near the front of the aircraft, in the so called ‘Best Seat’ zone, but being a hardcore a.netter, I opt for the very last row in the ‘peasant zone’ - which btw FLIEGER67, has a window on this plane. I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:


The overall cabin impression is excellent. It hosts the ultrathin Recaro seats, the colours used are pleasant and warm and the legroom is very satisfying:




Next door is a Lufty brother/sister preparing itself for the journey to FRA:


The safety demo is done manually. I get a private one, because the 2nd F/A performing it is standing just behind the very last passenger in the front part of the cabin. So I pay attention like a well behaved school boy.
After that the captain mumbles something about a 55 min flight time and a routing over Liège but that’s all I can understand from his F1 speech.

At T minus 3 we leave the gate:




The last weeks there were some re-surfacing works ongoing at 25R, but due to the dry and good weather these works were ready before schedule. No departure from 02 then, but from the newly surfaced 25R:


The ultralight load sees us lifting off early, fighter jet style!






Banking left after departure so I can take my signature BRU shot:


See you tonight hopefully!


Those who paid quite some money to sit upfront now receive their benefits: a free drink and snack. As I’m seated far away, I can’t tell what I miss out upon but I’m not hungry anyway. Although a cup of tea is more my cup of tea (pun intended), so I order one from when an F/A asks me if she can get me anything. A few minutes later, my tea is ready and my wallet € 2,50 poorer. Hey, that’s 20% more expensive than on SN  Wow! And the muffin/hot drink combo costs here € 4,80 iso the € 4 on SN. The thought that the home carrier at least has some things right, makes me a bit warmer inside  


Here’s the contents of the seat socket, the magazine is not overly interesting:


Being creative with barf bags. No need for a bag this morning as we sail smoothly:


The weather was good in Brussels but underway the sun has a hard time cleaning up the clouds:


But in the final stage of the flight, the conditions improve some:


Life is good in the valley:


And beyond as well:


I chose a righthand side seat to anticipate a 25 arrival and good views of the airport but it seems we’re not doing that as we approach over some hilly terrain from the west for a landing on 7:


20 minutes ahead of schedule we arrive at STR:




Passing by a Cessna farm:


And passing by an ill-fated Contact Air F100. According to FLIEGER67 this one only does 1 MXP run in the morning and 1 in the evening. For the remainder of the day, it sits idle on the tarmac.


Passing by an oryx from the Middle East. This one does an interesting STR-ZRH-DOH routing, but the STR-ZRH leg is only sold in business class. It would’ve been a perfect 5th freedom flight but the flight time is short and prices are steep.


The airport building is no example of contemporary engineering, au contraire:


At last, we make a stop at a remote stand and join the morning meet with a few company planes. Deboarding is pretty fast with this light load:


One last look to this nice machine, a route I will surely fly again at this price!


Stuttgart Airport - STR

I’m landside pretty quickly where I agreed to team up with FLIEGER67, who is indeed awaiting me at arrivals, smartly dressed and all  


We hop into FLIEGER67’s car - the weather is nice and warm - and drive to a spotter’s place where we spend some nice time talking this and that and of course watching some departing and arriving traffic. Having about an hour to spare, FLIEGER67 kindly drops me off again at T1. Thanks very much for your time and the meet, the pleasure was mine!

The Air Berlin flight actually leaves from T3 but as I fear that maybe the security lines will be somewhat longer with all these holiday makers on their way to PMI, I decide to take FLIEGER67’s advice and security check myself at T1 instead:




The process is smooth enough and moments later I’m airside again. The terminal is a bit of a mix of building styles, annexes, extras which makes it look somewhat chaotic. This restaurant is integrated in the gate waiting area:


The apron views are not good due to the fact that blinds are lowered to keep the sun out, thus generating a GVA effect. Well, there’s not that much interesting traffic anyway...
Well, apart from this one then, arriving from Varna:


After a short stroll I arrive at T3, which is located at ground level and basically is just a large hall with seats - enough of them - and doors that lead to the apron. LCC style in other words. My flight is the only one that will leave from here in the coming time and by the looks of the number of people around, it’ll be pretty full as I expected:


I set myself aside and watch the show. Lots of kids around and about but for the moment they are relatively quiet  At 11:20 - bang on time - I see something big, white and red touching down: she has arrived! Not to my surprise, the plane parks at a remote stand. With a turnaround time of only 45 mins for a full widebody aircraft, I smell trouble ahead.

But surprisingly, the whole boarding affair is fast and organized. People are asked to line up at either the left or right door, depending on their seat number. The staff checks this carefully and turns back those that are in the wrong line.


STR to PMI
AB9388
A333 D-AERQ
STD-STA 12:05-14:00
Y class
seat 9K


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Photo © Sebastian Sowa



When we arrive at the plane, there’s lots going on, the ‘feuerwehr’ is on site, apparently cooling down the brakes with a fan:




A lot of apron workers are present as well, to guide everyone quickly into the aircraft:




‘El Capitan’:


One last look to the apron before setting foot on board:


I feel sorry for the person who has to hammer in all those rivets:


When I step onboard, almost all seats are already taken. This ex-LTU plane has a dense all Y config.. Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::


The crew is a very mixed bag and appears to be PMI based: quite some older crew members are around and mostly speak Spanish and bad German and worse English. They seem quite disinterested at first and at second as well. That will prove on later in the flight.

The legroom is fairly OK, but for longer flights it could pose a problem. There’s a black (IFE?) box under the seat in front which restricts my legroom somewhat. Overall, the seating comfort is fine but this plane really shows it is old and heavily used:


The housing of the lighting is not transparent anymore:


The German captain comes on the horn and explains the situation with the firemen: cooling down the brakes to speed up our departure. He concludes by saying that everything will be perfectly safe for our flight to PMI. I guess there are quite some nervous flyers on board today.

Well, we are fully ready to go at the expected departure time but once again ATC pins us another 20 mins to our parking spot as we have to wait for our slot.
Meanwhile, them guys are packing up and leaving for another boring day ‘on guard’:


At last, we leave our parking position and head for the departure runway 7.

I wouldn’t mind having something like that in my garage:


We turn onto the runway and fire up immediately:


Bye STR! The takeoff feels quite powerful.


We make a right hand turn immediately. Pictured here is Köngen:


And the airport we’ve just taken off from:




This one’s for Knightsofmalta, you know this airport, don’t you  


And obviously, this is GVA:


Less obvious now, here’s NCY:


Meanwhile, we have established cruise and the crew is released to do their duties. A male F/A comes round to take orders for those who would like a hot meal (to be paid for!). As I made an online order for a ‘penne arrabiata’, I feel no need to order a second hot meal. Only a few people make an order though. As the cart is rolled out, there’s a free sandwich with ‘käse’ and something else (I don’t get it because the Spanish F/A distributing the sandwiches has a hard time speaking some proper German) and free drinks. I decline the sandwich offer but ask for some apple juice and water.

Well, the cart passes and people that ordered their hot meal get it delivered quite quickly. But nothing for me... I wait some 10 more minutes but nothing happens. I push the call bell but nothing happens in the next 10 minutes as well. Then the trash is collected by another Spanish F/A. When she passes I ask about my meal:
‘Excuse me, but I have prebooked a meal’, I tell her.
‘It’s coming’, she says with a puzzled look and walks off, only to return within 10 seconds:
‘Did you order on internet’?
‘Yes, I did’.
OK, one moment’.

Hmm, I wonder if the order didn’t get through or they didn’t take notice? Eventually my meal reaches me, it is accompanied by a glass of water but there’s no bread like with the other dishes. Before I even have the chance to ask about the bread, the F/A walks off again and I’m left to my own devices.

The meal portion is generous and appears to be quite spicy (hence the extra water?). It is however very basically presented:


Now this red sauce and white trousers are not an ideal combo so I try to eat with great care - to which I succeed brilliantly  

Meanwhile, we leave the mainland over Marseille and enter the blue golden Med:


Could this be Swiss? Yes, it is!


After the meal, I browse some in the available magazines and meanwhile the crew does a duty free sale:


Soon enough, the captain comes on the horn again and announces we will be landing in about 20 mins. By this time, we have already entered Palma de Mallorcan airspace and before joining in the line of arriving planes we perform a holding loop over the northwest part of the island. This gives some nice views:










Eventually we descend more and the last part of the flight takes us over the dry land area of Mallorca in summertime:






We land 20 minutes late on 24L after 1h40 of air time:


The Air Berlin operation here is really massive:


I’m a bit anxious - yes again - about my connection to BCN as it is now shortened to 40 mins and I’m not even in the terminal yet. I hope for a finger gate arrival to speed things up but to my surprise we are guided to park at a remote stand.
Follow the yellow dotted line and please stop BEFORE the follow-me car  


Deboarding is also surprisingly swift, there are 6 buses waiting in half a circle around the aircraft. This appears to be an efficient strategy.

I have still have time for some sunny shots:


You can’t get any closer to a widebody than this...




‘Under the wing, you know’.


P&W powered:


After this last shot I quickly jump into the bus, which brings us to the C terminal - the Air Berlin terminal.

I’ll end this part here.

For now, a few questions still remain...

Will I make the connection to BCN?
What is the % of humidity in the BCN T1?
Are my knees still sore?


There’s more to come so stay tuned!
For now: thanks for reading!

Sultanils


In thrust we trust.
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User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13338 times:

Hello Sultanils

Nice 1st part of this trip.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
but the STR-ZRH leg is only sold in business class

As far as I know they don't have any traffic rights, also not for business class. Do you have any information on where C class could be booked? (Not on the QR site, ITA Software also doesn't show it...)

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
and appears to be PMI based

AB does not have a PMI crew base anymore. All crews in AB except of course Niki and Belair are based in Germany.

Looking forward to reading part 2 with the answers to your questions!

Best regards,
LXM83


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13279 times:

Hi Nils

Great first part of your recent trip to PMI.

I nice combination of flights too by the look of it.

The cabins of the Germanwings aircraft you took looks very different to the flight I took with them back in 2004 to CGN. Back then, no recaro seats and terrible non existent legroom. Thank goodness the flight from LGW to CGN was short - I nearly could not feel my legs when I got there.

Lovely to see PMI again too in your pics - what a great way to arrive there. Yes, AB have such an impressive operation there - I remember seeing rows and rows of AB on the ground there.

Sorry the inflight service seemed pretty average on the 333 - still, nice to get a widebody intra Europe so thanks for bringing us part 1!

Palmjet

PS - glad you got to meet up with Markus as well.



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13202 times:

Hey Nils!!

Very pleasant surprise to see your latest flight TR up so soon! Its very interesting to read about your experience on AB - as you've mentioned, there are so few intra-European flights on widebody aircraft! Really nice that you've managed to score this one, a real Mother's Day treat to yourself indeed! haha...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The amount of intra-Europe widebody flights is quite scarce. Most flights within Europe and beyond - even medium longhaul ones - are operated by narrowbody aircraft.

Its tragic actually, especially when compared to Asia!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I noticed that Air Berlin also does some intra-Europe widebody flights, namely to the popular Spanish holiday island of Palma de Mallorca, operating the A332 and A333. As you may or may not know, tons of tourists of German and other descent fly out to this destination of fun and sun practically all throughout the year.

The lucky Germans! haha..

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
To sum it up: 3 new airlines, 1 new type (A333), 1 new airport (STR) and - more importantly - enough connection time to allow me some relative peace of mind

You've planned very, very well!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Vueling does allow you to check in 7 days in advance and Germanwings 3 days in advance

Very interesting to note, 7 days in advance is very generous! My impression is that most airlines only allow up to 48 hours in advance so even Germanwings' 3 days is not shabby either!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
There are not too much people around this morning due to it being Mother’s Day and an official holiday in Belgium

haha, Happy Mother's Day!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Some interesting advertising here:

Very interesting indeed...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
just business friendly as one would say

haha, i've heard that before!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

That's a really empty flight!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The safety demo is done manually. I get a private one, because the 2nd F/A performing it is standing just behind the very last passenger in the front part of the cabin. So I pay attention like a well behaved school boy.

haha, very, very nice and special in a way.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Banking left after departure so I can take my signature BRU shot:

Great spectacular scenes during take-off!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This one does an interesting STR-ZRH-DOH routing, but the STR-ZRH leg is only sold in business class. It would’ve been a perfect 5th freedom flight but the flight time is short and prices are steep.

Wow, I'm surprised that QR flies to STR, let alone STR-ZRH! Thank you for the enlightenment! Nice to see that they have 5th freedom rights, hopefully they will bring fares down soon.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A lot of apron workers are present as well, to guide everyone quickly into the aircraft:

Looks like everyone is appropriately-dressed for a nice holiday in Spain!  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The crew is a very mixed bag and appears to be PMI based: quite some older crew members are around and mostly speak Spanish and bad German and worse English. They seem quite disinterested at first and at second as well. That will prove on later in the flight.

Wow, I'm actually very surprised to hear Air Berlin has Spanish crew, and Spanish crew who speak bad German as a matter of fact. Having crew from a foreign nationality is one thing but not being able to speak the language is atrocious!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
We make a right hand turn immediately. Pictured here is Köngen:

Beautiful scenes, even more beautiful than the spectacular take-off from BRU in fact!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Hmm, I wonder if the order didn’t get through or they didn’t take notice? Eventually my meal reaches me, it is accompanied by a glass of water but there’s no bread like with the other dishes. Before I even have the chance to ask about the bread, the F/A walks off again and I’m left to my own devices.

Gosh, sorry to hear about the service lapse. They really need to brush up on their service delivery.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Now this red sauce and white trousers are not an ideal combo so I try to eat with great care - to which I succeed brilliantly

haha, nice to hear your trousers were safe!   Did it taste good and just curious, how much was it? Its quite interesting to have a hot meal on an intra-European route.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
By this time, we have already entered Palma de Mallorcan airspace and before joining in the line of arriving planes we perform a holding loop over the northwest part of the island. This gives some nice views:

Lovely views indeed. Looks like a nice holiday awaits your fellow passengers from the flight!

Was the flight full? How long was the flight actually, from STR to PMI?

Anyway, great TR and a lovely first half of your Mother's Day treat! Quite a breath of fresh air to see your experience on a widebody A330 after a string of narrowbodies previously! Thanks very much for sharing!

Bests,
Gavin



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineAirMale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13140 times:

Nice trip report.

But one small correction to the QR STR-ZRH-DOH flight...... QR doesn't have traffic rights on the STR-ZRH-STR sector.



.....up there with the best!
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1338 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13094 times:

Nice report there with some good pictures. Always amazes me to see all these European airlines with the same style seats these days - just with a different cover on depending on the operator.

Look forward to reading about the rest of your journey.



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User currently offlineBZNPilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2006, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

Hi Nils, great report covering your journey so far! A nice itinerary you pieced together, too, getting the widebody on a European route.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Seeing STR in that list reminded me of the fact that since May 2012, the Lufthansa route between BRU and STR was given in the hands of Germanwings, which is part as well of the Lufthansa group. Having never ever set foot on a Germanwings plane as well I thought it would be great to

That reminds me, I need to give Germanwings a try also on the STR route as well, sometime.  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
To sum it up: 3 new airlines, 1 new type (A333), 1 new airport (STR) and - more importantly - enough connection time to allow me some relative peace of mind

Not a bad arrangement!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Some interesting advertising here:

As someone working with the European Parliament, it is good to see the EU is making itself useful...   Some interesting advertising indeed.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

Not a very good load factor. I hope the BRU-STR route remains viable for the airline.

Also, nice photos of the A333 up close on the tarmac!

Thanks for posting and all the best.

BZNPilot


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5173 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12922 times:

Hey, Nils,

what a great story and idea behind, well done.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
hardcore a.netter, I opt for the very last row in the ‘peasant zone’ - which btw FLIEGER67, has a window on this plane.

Lucky you with this ex US-Air plane, much better legroom than on the newer examples.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

And passing by an ill-fated Contact Air F100. According to FLIEGER67 this one only does 1 MXP run in the morning and 1 in the evening. For the remainder of the day, it sits idle on the tarmac.

Sad but so it is. DUS and MXP are the only Contact flights now.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Passing by an oryx from the Middle East. This one does an interesting STR-ZRH-DOH routing, but the STR-ZRH leg is only sold in business class. It would’ve been a perfect 5th freedom flight but the flight time is short and prices are steep.

And it´s my fault with the traffic rights about QR´s STR-ZRH.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

I’m landside pretty quickly where I agreed to team up with FLIEGER67, who is indeed awaiting me at arrivals, smartly dressed and all

Hey, you know this was a standard biz day, at least in Baden-Württemberg!.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
We hop into FLIEGER67’s car - the weather is nice and warm - and drive to a spotter’s place where we spend some nice time talking this and that and of course watching some departing and arriving traffic. Having about an hour to spare, FLIEGER67 kindly drops me off again at T1. Thanks very much for your time and the meet, the pleasure was mine!

Exactly my pleasure, you know.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Now this red sauce and white trousers are not an ideal combo so I try to eat with great care - to which I succeed brilliantly

Well done here!.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

‘Under the wing, you know’.

That´s what I like.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

For now, a few questions still remain...

Will I make the connection to BCN?
What is the % of humidity in the BCN T1?
Are my knees still sore?

There’s more to come so stay tuned!
For now: thanks for reading!

Keep the interest level high, good idea and looking forward to this one.

Greetings,,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlinerogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12894 times:

Hola Nils!

Nice to follow your report so fast on line.

Great to see your adventures through STR and PMI, and great to catch one of those big ones to fly to PMI.

I have just arrived back from BCN T1 where I said my goodbyes to some friends going to PMI. I have been lucky enough to see the landing of SQ B777 from GRU and the two hour delayed departure of QR to DOH and I noticed the answer to your question.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
What is the % of humidity in the BCN T1?

I do not know about Wednesday's, but today was 70%  

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 696 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12880 times:

Hi Nils,

nice first part of your report, great idea to catch the A330 on this route. And looks like you got a very reasonable fare for this flight, after all it is main holiday season in Germany, and with Mallorca being the "17th state of Germany" you can really expect a full load on this route. I also checked out this flight occasionally, but never found any good fares.

Great that you could even include a small a.net meeting with Markus, well done. Did you go to this currywurst place on the other side of the airport near the cargo apron?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A319 D-AKNS

Hey, cool, this one took me from STR to FCO earlier this year.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

Wow, that's a very low load, good for you, but bad for the airline.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
When we arrive at the plane, there’s lots going on, the ‘feuerwehr’ is on site, apparently cooling down the brakes with a fan:

Interesting, never seen this. Nice from the captain that he explained it afterwards.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The meal portion is generous and appears to be quite spicy

Looks nice, and indeed a good sized portion. But sorry to read that the service left a lot to be desired. After all when you take the effort to even pre-order a meal they should be a bit more organized and have the meal delivered to you quickly. Most likely you were the only one on board to have a meal pre-ordered.

Now looking forward to read about your Vueling experience.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6824 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12771 times:

Hi Nils,

great report with very good pictures, well done! Congratulations on getting on AB's A333. D-AERQ is scheduled to leave the fleet in December, btw. I don't know how long the last A333 will remain in the fleet, though.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The amount of intra-Europe widebody flights is quite scarce. Most flights within Europe and beyond - even medium longhaul ones - are operated by narrowbody aircraft. Sure, there are some nice widebody flights in Europe to get yourself onto: LA, KU, SQ amongst others.

Not to forget about TK which sends A332s, A333s, A343s and even 77Ws to CDG, DUS, FRA, LHR and other European destinations regularly. Well, of course these may be replaced by smaller types on short notice.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

While browsing the schedules and fares on AirBerlin.com it became apparent that STR, CGN, MUC, DUS, FRA amongst others were regularly visited by an Air Berlin A330.

They even send them to NUE - which means a lot!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

Timings were very favorable for a daytrip so a BRU-STR flight with Germanwings was booked for € 47, together with a STR-PMI-BCN flight on Air Berlin - with STR-PMI operated by an A333 - for € 119.

Good deal!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

Wow, that's really low. I'll fly DTM-MUC on 4U next month.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Next door is a Lufty brother/sister preparing itself for the journey to FRA:

That seems to be D-AIBH which is the newest A319 in the fleet - when did you make that trip?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Passing by an oryx from the Middle East. It would’ve been a perfect 5th freedom flight but the flight time is short and prices are steep.

It's better to try QR on a longer flight!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::

Well, it's a veteran from 1996.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The legroom is fairly OK, but for longer flights it could pose a problem.

The A333s aren't used on long-haul flights any more.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The crew is a very mixed bag and appears to be PMI based: quite some older crew members are around and mostly speak Spanish and bad German and worse English.

That's very odd. FAs on a German plane should be able to speak proper German.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The meal portion is generous and appears to be quite spicy (hence the extra water?). It is however very basically presented:

Yes indeed, that doesn't look nice at all.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

Now this red sauce and white trousers are not an ideal combo so I try to eat with great care - to which I succeed brilliantly

Good. But why do you wear white trousers on a trip???

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m a bit anxious - yes again - about my connection to BCN as it is now shortened to 40 mins and I’m not even in the terminal yet. I hope for a finger gate arrival to speed things up but to my surprise we are guided to park at a remote stand.

Oh, that's tight. I'm looking forward to part II!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12640 times:

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The amount of intra-Europe widebody flights is quite scarce. ... Sure, there are some nice widebody flights in Europe to get yourself onto: LA, KU, SQ amongst others.

Ever thought about the AerLingus A330 route to AGP? Not to forget the British charter airlines/aircraft like Monarch A300, Thomson Airways B767, Thomas Cook UK B767... What about an EI A330 / ZB A300 AGP day trip combo??

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I noticed that Air Berlin also does some intra-Europe widebody flights, namely to the popular Spanish holiday island of Palma de Mallorca, operating the A332 and A333.

This year AB is operating 3 versions to Mallorca, A330-300 all Economy, A330-200 all Economy and A330-200 with BusinessClass (cool if you catch a C-seat for Y-fare!).

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The overall cabin impression is excellent. It hosts the ultrathin Recaro seats, the colours used are pleasant and warm and the legroom is very satisfying:

This A319 is an ex US AIRWAYS A319- have a closer look, the bulkhead is still with US carpet covered!


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1742 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 12553 times:
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Quoting LXM83 (Reply 1):
Hello Sultanils

Nice 1st part of this trip.

Hi there LXM83, thanks for your reply.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 1):
As far as I know they don't have any traffic rights, also not for business class.

You’re right. I was trustful to my sources but they were wrong apparently   Guilty!

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 1):
AB does not have a PMI crew base anymore. All crews in AB except of course Niki and Belair are based in Germany.

I didn’t know that, but the fact remains that there were many Spanish crew members on board.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):

Hi Nils

Great first part of your recent trip to PMI.

Hi pj, thanks for your comment!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
Back then, no recaro seats and terrible non existent legroom.

Oh really? Well it’s 8 years later and things seem to have improved. I felt like I was on a LH plane, comfort and legroom wise that is.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
I remember seeing rows and rows of AB on the ground there.

It’s still the same as far as the eye can see.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
Sorry the inflight service seemed pretty average on the 333

The service was really miss...and miss. Not too happy about that but I guess the full majority of my fellow pax didn’t care as they were in a holiday mood!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
still, nice to get a widebody intra Europe

Indeed and that was the main reason for this trip.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Hey Nils!!

Hi gavin, how are you?

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Very pleasant surprise to see your latest flight TR up so soon!

Thanks, I did my uttermost best to give you a.netters some reading stuff for the weekend  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
a real Mother's Day treat to yourself indeed!

Yes and I left a small gift for the wife back home so she was happy as well! That’s a win-win situation lol!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Its tragic actually, especially when compared to Asia!

You guys are really spoiled, you know 

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
You've planned very, very well!

Well, I was one happy camper when I puzzled this booking together. I’m glad it worked out fine. Oh wait, you haven’t seen part II yet  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Very interesting to note, 7 days in advance is very generous! My impression is that most airlines only allow up to 48 hours in advance so even Germanwings' 3 days is not shabby either!

Ryanair and easyJet are even more generous in that aspect... but they don’t have reserved seating so it’s a bit different.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Nice to see that they have 5th freedom rights

Well, I’m sorry to have to tell you that this is actually not true sadly enough... I was wrong 

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Looks like everyone is appropriately-dressed for a nice holiday in Spain!

Yes, a plane load full with fashionistas!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Wow, I'm actually very surprised to hear Air Berlin has Spanish crew, and Spanish crew who speak bad German as a matter of fact. Having crew from a foreign nationality is one thing but not being able to speak the language is atrocious!

You can say that again. And it’s only the language issue, the whole service was a bit of a miss if you ask me. But I guess most of the pax didn’t care...

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
They really need to brush up on their service delivery.

They indeed have to. Promise on the website and deliver in the plane. Make it work guys!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Did it taste good and just curious, how much was it?

The taste was rather OK, a bit on the spicy side. The price was € 9 iirc...

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Was the flight full? How long was the flight actually, from STR to PMI?

I did not check the other cabin parts, but I guess it was full or nearly full. The flight time was 1h40min.

Quoting AirMale (Reply 4):

Nice trip report.

Thank you AirMale.

Quoting AirMale (Reply 4):
QR doesn't have traffic rights on the STR-ZRH-STR sector.

You’re right and I was wrong indeed  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 5):
Nice report there with some good pictures.

Thanks James, I’m glad you liked it!

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 6):
Hi Nils, great report covering your journey so far!

Hello BZNPilot, thank you for reading and replying!

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 6):
I need to give Germanwings a try also on the STR route as well

You really should, I think you will not be disappointed.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 6):
it is good to see the EU is making itself useful...

Indeed, I think this campaign makes good sense since lots of pax don’t know what they’re entitled to if things go badly wrong.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 6):
I hope the BRU-STR route remains viable for the airline.

Me too, although I must add that it was a Belgian public holiday so no suits on biz travel that day.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Hey, Nils,

what a great story and idea behind, well done.

Hi Markus, thanks for you comment en again for taking some time to meet up. Very much appreciated, you know!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
much better legroom than on the newer examples.

Oh boy, I was lucky then. Don’t they all have this cabin config with the thin seats?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
DUS and MXP are the only Contact flights now.

Good to know. So when I come back next time, I have to try to get on one of those.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
And it´s my fault with the traffic rights about QR´s STR-ZRH.

Hey, no problem!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Hey, you know this was a standard biz day

Not with me! I was relaxing and on a holiday  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Exactly my pleasure, you know.

Thanks again!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
That´s what I like.

I know 

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 8):
Hola Nils!

Nice to follow your report so fast on line.

Hola Roger, thanks for your reply!

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 8):
and I noticed the answer to your question.

Oh, have you really? I’m curious!

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 8):
I do not know about Wednesday's, but today was 70%

Allright, you’re not far from it. Wait and see for part II!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):

Hi Nils,

nice first part of your report

Hello CaptainRed, thanks!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
And looks like you got a very reasonable fare for this flight, after all it is main holiday season in Germany, and with Mallorca being the "17th state of Germany" you can really expect a full load on this route. I also checked out this flight occasionally, but never found any good fares.

Lucky for me, this day was a public holiday in Belgium and the fare was the better one I could find. And indeed in full holiday season so needless to say I booked it without any delay.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
Did you go to this currywurst place on the other side of the airport near the cargo apron?

No, but I have seen it. It’s an Essbahn as well, right?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
Hey, cool, this one took me from STR to FCO earlier this year.

Really? Nice coincidence. So I guess you were happy with the cabin comfort as well?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
Interesting, never seen this. Nice from the captain that he explained it afterwards.

Neither have I, but I think it raised some (safety) questions with the pax so the cpt did a good job in explaining what was going on. At first I thought we would be heavily delayed but lucky no such thing.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
After all when you take the effort to even pre-order a meal they should be a bit more organized and have the meal delivered to you quickly. Most likely you were the only one on board to have a meal pre-ordered.

Exactly my point. At least they should read the manifest and notice my reservation in the booking.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Hi Nils,

great report with very good pictures, well done!

Hello PH, I’m glad you liked my story.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
D-AERQ is scheduled to leave the fleet in December, btw.

Oh, is it really? Good thing then I was able to fly that one! The other possibility would have been D-AERK.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Not to forget about TK which sends A332s, A333s, A343s and even 77Ws to CDG, DUS, FRA, LHR and other European destinations regularly.

Indeed, in fact the list is almost endless  . But pricewise, this was a good option nonetheless.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
I'll fly DTM-MUC on 4U next month.

Nice. That’s not your 1st time on 4U now is it?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
when did you make that trip?

Aug 15th to be precise.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
It's better to try QR on a longer flight!

Indeed, maybe some day I’ll do that ex-BRU.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Well, it's a veteran from 1996.

Oh yes, a veteran she was for sure, obviously.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
The A333s aren't used on long-haul flights any more.

A browse on data.flight324.com revealed that this particular aircraft did a DUS-AUH rotation some weeks ago. Probably a sub?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
FAs on a German plane should be able to speak proper German.

At least!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
But why do you wear white trousers on a trip???

Hey, that’s my comfy summer gear. And besides: I was in a holiday mood so one has to dress himself appropriately 

Quoting debonair (Reply 11):
Ever thought about the AerLingus A330 route to AGP? Not to forget the British charter airlines/aircraft like Monarch A300, Thomson Airways B767, Thomas Cook UK B767... What about an EI A330 / ZB A300 AGP day trip combo??

I’ve thought about all those as well but schedule and price were most suitable for this one   You’re right, there’s plenty more to discover!

Quoting debonair (Reply 11):
This A319 is an ex US AIRWAYS A319- have a closer look, the bulkhead is still with US carpet covered!

I did notice there was carpet on the lower part of the side wall but I didn’t see the buklhead.

Thanks everyone for all your comments!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12144 times:

Hey Nils,

thank you for your clarifications!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Yes and I left a small gift for the wife back home so she was happy as well! That’s a win-win situation lol!

Phew, good to know. I guess she won't complain so much that you fled to Spain on her special day! haha

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
The price was € 9 iirc...

Thanks for the info!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
I did not check the other cabin parts, but I guess it was full or nearly full. The flight time was 1h40min.

Okay, thanks! Interesting that they were selling hot meals for this really short sector, even though its on the A330 aircraft.

Will look out for your return trip!



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12104 times:

Hi Nils,

Wow, how fast are you at writing your reports? I very much enjoyed this one, particularly as flew PMI-ZRH on the A333 2 years ago and it was a trip I have happy memories of. AB's A333 comes to ZRH 3 times a week in summer, although last week one flight was operated by a 747 of Pullmantur Air, how exciting would that have been? Great photos of Majorca from the air that you took.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The main FIDS - which is of the rolling type, don’t you just love that -

I love them, a shame they are becoming such a rare sight.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
There are not too much people around this morning due to it being Mother’s Day

You have Mother's Day in August? March in England, May over here....

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
peasant zone’ - which btw FLIEGER67, has a window on this plane. I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

Lucky you, my last row peasant zone seat on my only 4U flight had no window.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, my tea is ready and my wallet € 2,50 poorer.

That's quite steep. The tea on EZY may not be any cheaper, but you do get a big cup.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
For the remainder of the day, it sits idle on the tarmac.

Sad, isn't it? The planes used on the routes in & out of ZRH always seem to be working hard.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This one does an interesting STR-ZRH-DOH routing, but the STR-ZRH leg is only sold in business class. It would’ve been a perfect 5th freedom flight but the flight time is short and prices are steep.

If only! I've tried and tried, no traffic rights and no exceptions for staff 
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This ex-LTU plane has a dense all Y config.. Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::

I quite liked the absence of the overhead bins in the middle. It creates a feeling of space.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
be PMI based: quite some older crew members are around and mostly speak Spanish and bad German and worse English. They seem quite disinterested at first and at second as well. That will prove on later in the flight.

Interesting. The crew on my flight were DUS based and I found them all to be very friendly.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This one’s for Knightsofmalta, you know this airport, don’t you

Nice shot, it's featured in my log a few times as well!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The meal portion is generous and appears to be quite spicy (hence the extra water?). It is however very basically presented:

Looks quite tasty, but the long wait you had was unacceptable.

I'm intrigued to know how your transfer in PMI was.....!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlinemloew From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12101 times:

Hi Nils,
nice TR! I still wonder why there are so many Germans visiting Mallorca when you consider the mostly outdated hotels and 'high' prices compared to destinations like Turkey.

But anyway, nice to get a widebody for an intra-European flight. Btw - AB chartered even some 744s (I think from Pullmantur) and 772s (from EuroAtlantic) this year for some PMI flights from MUC and DUS, IIRC.

Looking forward to your return flights!

Cheers, Maurice



Proudly flying Oman Air
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11895 times:

Hoi Nils, nice report!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
On my way there I see some advertisement that I think fellow a.netter OA260 amongst others will appreciate:
I'm quite surprised they still have that advert there. When I was in BRU five months ago, it was there too.
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
and with the morning duties duly done I hop on the bike and arrive at my usual parking spot at

Suppose the 2-wheeler did a good job zig-zagging through the morning traffic?  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
soon called ‘The Connector’:

So with that in mind, the Schengen corridor was originally called "The Marathon"?  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Some interesting advertising here:

I bet many airlines are upset with that! Especially LCCs.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This one’s for Knightsofmalta, you know this airport, don’t you

BSL?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I decline the sandwich offer but ask for some apple juice and water.

Hmm, so why not accept the sandwich instead and save it for later?

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11764 times:

Hi Nils!

Great report, just as usual! Glad to read about your experiences on 4U and AB, I hope you'll make that connection!  
Good idea to catch one of the few intra-Europe widebody flights. My next report shall also cover a flight of that kind.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

BRU-STR on Germanwings’ A319
STR-PMI on Air Berlin’s A333
PMI-BCN on Air Berlin’s B738
BCN-BRU on Vueling’s A320

Perfect itinerary for a daytrip!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The main FIDS - which is of the rolling type, don’t you just love that - shows that all is fine for me right now:

The sound is its best feature.  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This ex-LTU plane has a dense all Y config.. Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::

In other words, this A330 is quite different from the "normal" ones.

Looking forward to the next part!

Martin


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11358 times:

Haai Nils,

What a great weekend read! How exciting to fly intra-Europe with a wide-body, surely a distinctive experience as it is a short haul flight! For the sake of this excitement, I chose GA 416 for our onward journey to Bali wfrom Jakarta.   



Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Note: I will split this report in 2 parts for your reading comfort

How considerate of you.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
the legroom is very satisfying:

Then, it should be satisfying for me as well.   


Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
So I pay attention like a well behaved school boy.

Good boy!   


Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The thought that the home carrier at least has some things right, makes me a bit warmer inside 

Great! Now you know how I feel about Garuda!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
People are asked to line up at either the left or right door, depending on their seat number. The staff checks this carefully and turns back those that are in the wrong line.

Way to go! Strict boarding procedure was just needed.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
to which I succeed brilliantly  

Thrill-seeker!  



Thanks a lot for sharing. Now, I am ready for the sun.

Best wishes,
Suryo  



Friends forever
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11220 times:

Hey Nils.

How nice that you got to do this daytrip down south and with some interesting equipment no less. I'm quite jealous actually (nothing new there!)  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Some interesting advertising here:

How nice of them to advertise this. For all I know everybody else is trying to keep all this information a secret. I applaud.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I count a total of 20 passengers and the last 20 rows or so are for me alone:

Excellent. Obviously not good for the industry but it's great to be on a flight like that. I can't remember the last time I was on a flight that empty.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, my tea is ready and my wallet € 2,50 poorer. Hey, that’s 20% more expensive than on SN  

Wow, that's quite steep for a cup of hot water and some bagged fragments of dried and processed faux tea leafs.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Well, apart from this one then, arriving from Varna:

Dear lord, that livery (if you can even call it that) is hideous. Painful to even look at. Late 90's Bulgarian aesthetics at its best. I mean look at that font!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m a bit anxious - yes again - about my connection to BCN as it is now shortened to 40 mins and I’m not even in the terminal yet.

You really like to cut it short as of recently Nils. Taking a liking to "living dangerously" by any chance? You know some people say that's a sign of early mid-life crisis...Haha. Even if you are too young for that. I know because I'm going through it myself  


Too bad about the not-so-stellar flight attendants on the flight to PMI. As you know my experiences with Spanish FAs have not been so great either. I think the spaniards should leave the flight-attending business to somebody else and stick to what they do best: Train great chefs, actors, architects, soccer and handball players and great (albeit flopping) basketball players. I adore Spain but some things they just can't get right.


Looking forward to the return leg. I'm assuming you had no time to check out Palma?

Thanks!

WideBodyroga



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11008 times:

Hello Nils

After I had the honor to get a small preview of your trip yesterday I'm glad to read it. It looks great as always. 4U and AB seemed to please you.

It's interesting to see that you had the NEK seating on 4U, I did not realize they had it as well. My flight to MAN did not have it.

Interesting to know as well that AB has spanish crews, I did know they had a great operation in PMI but did not know that AB had even a base there. Interesting too see this different configured A333 as well.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10975 times:

Hello and thanks for sharing this very intersting itinerary.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The Air Berlin flight actually leaves from T3 but as I fear that maybe the security lines will be somewhat longer with all these holiday makers on their way to PMI, I decide to take FLIEGER67’s advice and security check myself at T1 instead:

As if it makes any difference... STR is only one big building anyway, and airside all gates are connected, they may call it Terminal 1, 2 or 3, it's all one building. It just confused people  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
When I step onboard, almost all seats are already taken. This ex-LTU plane has a dense all Y config.. Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::

I remember flying this aircraft when AB took over LTU and flew to Shanghai and Beijing around the Olympic games. The load was so low that they had to drop the routes shortly after.
Didn't knew that AB had PMI based cabin crews by the way.
Thought their whole PMI operation is organized with NON-PMI based aircrafts. Meaning, one plane would fly i.e. NUE-PMI-VLC, one other STR-PMI-BCN , a third one HAM-PMI-AGP, another one TXL-PMI-SVQ and back... And people could connect all in PMI. And since it's such efficient there, and AB has mainly taken over one part of the airport (which was recently renovated) I am sure you made your connection easily - There is no security, too  


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10880 times:

Interesting report. Thanks for sharing. It is indeed rare to get a 333 on intra-Europe routings, but I am glad you managed to snag one. That meal on AB looked awful!

I look forward to having the great mysteries revealed in your next TR  .

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10802 times:

Hi Nils !

Great report with nice pictures ! Seems like a perfect day out for you; some new airlines and meeting up with fellow A.netters.

4U looks very good for such a short flight and it seems you were lucky to get the aircraft with okay legroom.

The 333 looks a bit old but still okay for such a short flight. Too bad you got the meal so late. Cabin crew didn't seem very good.

Travelling with white pants seem to very adventureous although I travel with a white sweat shirt but I only wear it when the cabin gets too cold and never when eating.

Looking forward to the second part!

The777Man



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2297 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 10725 times:

Hey Nils!

Nice TR, it was a good read--and looking forward to the 2nd part!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Having done OLCI the day before - Vueling does allow you to check in 7 days in advance and Germanwings 3 days in advance

Hmmm... Blue Air was 14 days ahead of time at one point. I think they might still do that, but I'm not sure. That might help  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Just a little bit, yes!’ I answer the gate agent when she asks me ‘MAD sir?’ 

Hah. MAD as in angry or MAD as in crazy?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The turnaround is pretty quick and by the looks of it, the load will be extremely light this morning.

Good fo us, not so good for the airline.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, my tea is ready and my wallet € 2,50 poorer. Hey, that’s 20% more expensive than on SN

I guess the German economy is working better at the moment.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Passing by a Cessna farm:

We can't stop here, this is Cessna country.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
And passing by an ill-fated Contact Air F100. According to FLIEGER67 this one only does 1 MXP run in the morning and 1 in the evening. For the remainder of the day, it sits idle on the tarmac.

That's a shame. F100s are nice planes...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
After a short stroll I arrive at T3, which is located at ground level and basically is just a large hall with seats - enough of them - and doors that lead to the apron. LCC style in other words. My flight is the only one that will leave from here in the coming time and by the looks of the number of people around, it’ll be pretty full as I expected:

Hmm... Well, I guess that's what you have to expect flying on AB... Boarding an A330 from the apron can take a while, so they need to be organized. Luckily, this was in Germany  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
When I step onboard, almost all seats are already taken. This ex-LTU plane has a dense all Y config.. Note the abscence of overhead bins in the mid section and the old school overhead monitors::

Interesting. Was this just in the front, or throughout the cabin? Any idea?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
He concludes by saying that everything will be perfectly safe for our flight to PMI. I guess there are quite some nervous flyers on board today.

Well, it's very easy to interpret the fire department doing "something" to the wheels as being unsafe.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
As I made an online order for a ‘penne arrabiata’,

A hot hot meal. Good for you... it's my favorite type of pasta. Hope they didn't ruin it.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Hmm, I wonder if the order didn’t get through or they didn’t take notice? Eventually my meal reaches me, it is accompanied by a glass of water but there’s no bread like with the other dishes. Before I even have the chance to ask about the bread, the F/A walks off again and I’m left to my own devices.

Indeed, miss or miss service  

Thanks a lot for the write-up, Nils!


25 Post contains images Quokkas : Hi Nils! What a nice way to spend a day, flying down to the sun. A simple, uncluttered livery that is not so "in your eye" as some other carriers. Who
26 roberts87 : Nice report Nils! Looks you had a nice morning of flying. Looking forward to the continuation! You gotta love boarding a widebody on a remote stand! A
27 Post contains images sultanils : She usually doesn’t complain, as long as I’m not away every WE, it’s perfectly fine No worries! Yes, although the presentation looked very LCC
28 Post contains images sultanils : Hi Wbr, thanks for your comments. Hey, no need to be jealous. You’ve flown some damn fine planes as well, no? Me too. I can, it wasn’t that long
29 MHTripple7 : Thanks for posting this TR, there are very few Air Berlin A330 reviews out there. Must say that the cabin looks terrible! Like something you'd see on
30 Post contains images akhmad : Goed, hé? Warm, sunny and busy weekend. Are you serious? You look as tall as I do while I am 1m92.
31 Knightsofmalta : Hey Nils How's it going? First of all thanks for the interesting report and my compliments on the very stylish opening image. Last year AB operated so
32 debonair : No! All A333 have this special configuration without overhead bins... One huge problem with 4U, as the have picked up so many second hand examples wi
33 Post contains images OA260 : Hey Nils Nice pic and odd enough reminds me of the front cover of a Laker Airways DC-10 inflight entertainment guide I once saw Nice image well done .
34 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi Nils, This must be the first "Nilsson report" that comes in more than one part! But yeah, great to read about your little Ballermann trip down to M
35 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi there Nils, Another great report as usual and what a great idea to catch this wide-body! Germanwings looks nice, although the passenger amount is a
36 Post contains images sultanils : Hi MHTripple7, thank you for reading and commenting. The cabin indeed wasn’t in the best condition, but I’ll take it as a part of the charm in fl
37 Post contains images airbuseric : Hoi, Nils! Finally my time to read your A330 experience, which we experienced together that day, though on different aircraft. But you know all that!
38 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Eric, thanks for your commentary! Are these scheduled flights or random equipment changes? True and the plane felt as old as an IL-96 Sultanils
39 ba319-131 : Nice read and pictures Nils, looks like fun flying! - Ouch, and with that legroom, er or lack of! - Bugger that's a light load! - At least you were pa
40 Post contains images sultanils : Hi there Mark, thanks and good to hear from you! It really was. No probs for me but I bet the guy in control of 4U's finances was not happy with this
41 Post contains images signol : Hi Nils, excellent as usual, thank you! On seeing a report to PMI, I thought that maybe you'd decided to take the family to a beach holiday Still, int
42 Post contains images akhmad : A.netters are just handsome!
43 Post contains images sultanils : Hello signol, thanks for your nice reply. Not quite. You don't want my 'loud' daughter next to you on an aeroplane Glad to hear that, I was too and m
44 Post contains images akhmad : lolbroek you are!
45 gabrielchew : Nice report Nils! Great way to get down to PMI! Just how I like it! Ouch, that's so expensive. If they charged a fair amount (EUR 1?...hey, it's a gla
46 Post contains images sultanils : Thanks Gabs! If they charged a fair amount, they most likely wouldn't make any profits out of the BOB. I think that wouldn't pose that much of a prob
47 Post contains images CARST : Good report Sultanis, the AB A333 looks a little bit tight and touristic regarding seat pitch. I have the feeling these aircraft did not get an interi
48 Post contains images Parton87 : Hello Nils! Sorry, I missed your report when you upload it, that´s why you hadn´t get a reply from me before! Whit that said, a great report with ni
49 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Robert, thanks for your comments! Hey, no worries Thanks, I try to do my best and I watch Monty Python for the humour part, that helps I guess
50 Post contains images Parton87 : Hello again Yes, that´s right FCO-MXP
51 Post contains images sultanils : Hello CARST, thank you for your reply! Indeed the AB 333 felt very touristy inside out. The seat pitch was fine but I don't want to see myself stuck
52 eastafspot : Nils Very Nice report, always good to meet a fellow A.net in transit Are you an Airbus fan...318, 330...what next...346? The KUflight should be done b
53 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Léonard, thanks for your reply! No, not really. Just a matter of 'coincidences' really By you? Because I have already flown that one. Well it'
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