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My First Trip Report! UA YYZ-SFO-ICN  
User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10079 times:

To start off, I would like to apologize for posting this trip report nearly two months after the flight and for the horrible photo quality. I was at my grandparents' place and I had no internet connection. For the photo quality, I used a cheap point-and-shoot camera which takes blurry photos even in bright conditions. I really do have to get a better camera!

I am an international student living in Canada, and I was on this trip to go home for the summer. The booking for this flight was rather chaotic for me. I was looking for flights two months before the actual travel date, but my parents said that it was okay to book the flight about two weeks before the actual travel date. By the beginning of June, I was terribly concerned that I might not be able to get a flight. I checked AC, KE, DL, and UA for flights. For a round-trip flight, AC wanted to charge me $2400; KE wanted to charge me $2600; DL's website didn't search any flights from YYZ to ICN; and UA: an amazingly dirt-cheap fare of $1500. I called my parents and told them that I found a cheap flight. However, they were not so enthusiastic about the idea of me going through the United States (They didn't even give me reasons!  &nbsp. I managed to persuade them after calling them for 40 minutes every single day   . When they finally paid for the ticket, it was June 18th, which was less than a week before the flight! Since I got a cheap flight, my parents agreed to get me an economy plus seat upgrade.

On the morning of the June 23rd, I left my school and headed for Toronto. I stayed at my legal guardian's place for a few hours and charged my goodies (My junky Thinkpad, BB Playbook, and my iPod Touch, which will all keep me entertained during the long trip). At 3AM the next morning, I woke up and a hired driver drove me to YYZ terminal 1. As soon as I was dropped off in front of the UA check-in area, I was on my own.
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The check-in desks weren't very busy.

The check-in was smooth, and as soon as I got my boarding passes, I noticed something strange. There was no conveyor belt. The lady told me that I had to take my bags with me. I later figured out that there was a separate baggage drop-off area right before the security checkpoint. US customs was performed before entering the security screening area. It was not as strict as I expected; no questions, all they did was take a photo of me and scan my fingerprints.

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My boarding pass

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The escalators leading to the gates after the security checkpoint

I was sleepy, so I decided to get a nice, warm double-double from Tim Hortons. After walking for hours (ehm...maybe more like five minutes  ), I found one.
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I walked in and ordered a large double-double. I found out that my gate was right in front of the Tim Hortons.

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The 16 and a half year old A320, N430UA was waiting at gate F63

I found a nice couch with a USB/AC port on the side. I relaxed on the chair and plugged in my iPod along with my laptop for some extra charging while waiting for my flight.
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I enjoyed the warm cup of coffee.   


Segment 1: UA867
YYZ-SFO
Airbus A320
Scheduled departure time- 06:53 EDT
Scheduled arrival time- 08:55 PDT
Flight time: approximately 5 hours

When boarding group 7 was called, I boarded the plane. As soon as I reached my seat, a flight attendant asked me if I could change seats so that a family could sit together. I agreed to move to seat 24F from 22B. The seats were rather tiny and uncomfortable.

We took off on time using runway 23. A few minutes after takeoff, the seatbelt signs were turned off and I loosened the seat belt.
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Drinks were served shortly after.

The two flight attendants were rather senior   , but very kind, which was very different from what I had heard about United.

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Air-to air with a Southwest 737 on our approach to SFO
A few hours later, we landed at SFO using runway 28R. The landing was smooth. However, we were delayed in front of the gate for around 30 minutes.
As soon as I got off the plane, I went out to look for somewhere to eat; I was starving. I hadn't eaten anything for the past 20 hours. I asked another United pilot as soon as I got off, and he gave me instructions on how to go to the closest restaurant. The Burger King was just a few dozen meters away; all I had to do was turn left and walk for less than a minute. It was such a relief to eat something after so many hours without food!   

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On my way to the international terminal, I took a photo of the cute Airbus A320 which took all of its passengers safely and comfortably across the continent.

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Retro A320!!!!!  Wow!

Second segment: UA893
SFO-ICN
Boeing 747-400
Scheduled departure time- 10:56 PDT
Scheduled arrival time- 13:46 KST
Flight time: 11 hours

After finishing my burger, I headed for gate 98. However, the screen showed another flight and I soon realised that my flight has been delayed by about 30 minutes and that the gate has changed to gate 102. I was notified that the delay was due to transferring passengers’ bags...I think some of them might have been from UA867! I moved to gate 102 and boarded the 747-400, N105UA. It was still in the old United livery  http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh511/softrally/DSCF3844-1.jpg
I boarded the aircraft and settled into my seat, 24A. The seat was plushy and comfortable. Legroom was adequate, as I am a short person at 1.65m or 6” 5’. The gentleman next to me seemed to have very little spare legroom.
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We started taxiing at about 11:40. While taxiing, I saw a 727 which I couldn’t identify. Does anybody know who operates this aircraft?  http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh511/softrally/DSCF3855-1.jpg

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An American Airlines 737 landing before our takeoff.

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UA893 took off from runway 28R, the same one which was used for UA867’s landing.

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A view of San Francisco through the (dirty) window

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Drinks were served after a few minutes into the flight- I chose apple juice.

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I could see the curvature of the earth from the sky.

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I found TONS of hair on my blanket, so I decided not to use it. Is this common on United flights? This is the first time I’ve seen this in my life.

We got a meal quite soon after. There were two choices: beef and chicken. I chose beef. The meal was delicious, especially the sauce for the beef.
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The flight was uneventful until a few minutes after most of the passengers finished their meals- then we experienced some moderate turbulence and we were ordered to sit down. I was on my way back to my seat from the lav, so I just sat down in any empty seat I could find until the turbulence was over.

The rest of the flight was smooth; I reclined my seat and watched the tv show- Track me if you Can. The show was okay-it wasn’t exactly the best show out there but it’s much better than showing an episode of Air Crash Investigation/Mayday like AC did a few years ago! The movie screen was a rather little too small though- I am slightly nearsighted and I had some difficulty watching the tv show. The center screen was okay but the side ones were a total joke. I walked up and they seemed to be about 24 inches across in size. United could have used bigger screens.
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I slept for a few hours and therefore missed breakfast. The flight was just about an hour from Seoul/Incheon so I decided to pack my belongings and prepare myself.

As we approached ICN, I saw some islands surrounding the airport. We landed on runway 16. The landing was smooth. Some passengers got up and started grabbing their bags as soon as we were taxiing!   

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Another 747 greeting us at ICN

When we reached a gate in the new terminal, I waited in my seat for a few minutes until most of the passengers were off.

On my way out, I asked one of the flight attendants if I could take a look in the cockpit. Both the captain and the first officer were welcoming, unlike some other pilots I have met before. I would like to thank both the captain and the first officer for my first ever view in a cockpit. http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh511/softrally/DSCF3908-1.jpg

When I got off the plane, I took the monorail which leads to the main terminal. Customs was fast and efficient. When I retrieved my bags, I proceeded to the subway station. I took the Airport Railway line, Seoul subway line 9, and then line 3. There weren't so many people which made it easy to take the subway with a large suitcase  http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh511/softrally/DSCF3936-1.jpg

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A clearly noticable Boeing 747-400   

There’s nothing like home sweet home after staying a few months away in a different country!

This is my first trip report and yes, there are a lot of improvements to be made. I’ll make sure I type my trip report during my trip on my way back to Canada so I don’t end up posting it this late! I hope you enjoyed my trip report and thanks for reading  


Flown on: 738, 744, 762/763, 772, 77W, 788, A306, A318/319/320/321, A332/333, E145, E190, CRJ700
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User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9639 times:

Well done on your first TR! Maybe you could have taken some photos. Good job on the retro style A320. it looks pretty. I am an international student , studying in the united states. Check out my TR s when I was heading home.

here you go! Cheers!  DEL-LHR-DEL Y Class. Many Pics! (by planiac787 Aug 15 2012 in Trip Reports)

Atl To Delhi Via Newark On United Airlines (by planiac787 Jun 15 2012 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinecanadianpylon From Canada, joined May 2003, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9369 times:

Great first TR! Thanks for the report and photos!

I can't wait to see your return trip TR.



Always looking for the longest route with the most transfers.
User currently onlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9612 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9308 times:

Thanks for the trip report. I remember your planning questions about the transfer in SFO.

It is also refreshing to read a trip report that is not super critical and dour about a US airline's international service. Your complaints about the IFE are very valid, but it doesn't sound like having to watch a distant screen is the torturous murderous death march that some people make a UA 747 flight in economy sound like. I'm also glad to see someone complimenting an in flight meal. So many trip reports talk about inedible food in all classes except first class on 5 star airlines.



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3246 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8853 times:

Nice first report...looks like your flights with UA were ok. It was very nice of you to swap your window for a middle seat to accomodate the family...very generous of you! Lucky the fares booking so late were good - I don't think I would have chanced it!


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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8332 times:

Thanks for sharing the report. ANY pics are better than no pics, and your pics were perfectly fine.

User currently offlineFly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1044 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8233 times:

Great trip report! I was going to book this route to Korea for holidays, but I ended up booking AF from LHR via CDG to ICN! Looks like it was a decent trip.

User currently offlinedavidCA From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 69 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

Great report! It's always a pleasure to read a report from someone who obviously enjoyed his/her trip.

Very nice of you to switch from a good seat to a centre seat. I hope that family for whom you moved at least offered to buy you a drink/snack.


User currently offlineTigerguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8114 times:

Quoting softrally (Thread starter):
To start off, I would like to apologize for posting this trip report nearly two months after the flight and for the horrible photo quality. I was at my grandparents' place and I had no internet connection. For the photo quality, I used a cheap point-and-shoot camera which takes blurry photos even in bright conditions. I really do have to get a better camera!

No need to worry. It's common practice to present reports some time after they happened. After all, we're not college professors demanding things on deadlines! And I use a point-and-shoot for most of my pictures as well. You just have to work as best as you can with what you've got. Nice first report, by the way.



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User currently offlinenethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 1081 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

A nice quick first trip report. Absolutely enjoy reading the stroy between line.
You sound like a fun person to be around with.
Keep them coming! Hope you can make it to Phuket, perhaps on OZ, one day!!
Many thanks  

Btw, new United meal service is becoming so very Continental now....



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2334 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7772 times:

Great job on your first trip report! Your pics arent bad, but your trip was well documented. Like Aeri28 said, any pics are better than no pics, even now I cant see why some people still post trip reports without pics.

Anyway thanks for sharing with us, looking forward to your next report!



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User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

I want to add that the headphone jack on flight 893 didn't work. It didn't matter too much to me since I used my iPod instead though. I re-checked my boarding pass and the seat number on flight 893 was 22C, not 24C. Btw I'm glad that you guys enjoyed my tr.


Flown on: 738, 744, 762/763, 772, 77W, 788, A306, A318/319/320/321, A332/333, E145, E190, CRJ700
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1196 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

I don't consider tons and tons of lettuce as a starter and a measly cookie as "delicious."

Maybe the main was but the UA meals as a whole are a disgrace.


User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 12):

I don't consider tons and tons of lettuce as a starter and a measly cookie as "delicious."

Maybe the main was but the UA meals as a whole are a disgrace.

In a matter of fact, I loved the salad. The dressing was so awesome that I would love to know where to buy it. The rice was awful though. It was totally dry and squished up together. I'll be taking another UA flight to Canada next month, so I'll mention the food on those flights in my next TR.



Flown on: 738, 744, 762/763, 772, 77W, 788, A306, A318/319/320/321, A332/333, E145, E190, CRJ700
User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3011 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7055 times:
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Great trip report!

United are usually the cheapest from Toronto to Seoul, but I'd rather pay a few bucks more to fly on Delta, one of my favorite airlines in the world. You should try them on YYZ-DTW-ICN next time, as I will on my next trip to Korea.



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User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6903 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 14):
Great trip report!

United are usually the cheapest from Toronto to Seoul, but I'd rather pay a few bucks more to fly on Delta, one of my favorite airlines in the world. You should try them on YYZ-DTW-ICN next time, as I will on my next trip to Korea.

Thanks!

Actually, I am planning to try out Delta when I come home in December. I searched many different flights and Delta seems to be cheaper than United then. I am still thinking about United though as if I fly a little more on *alliance airlines, I'll get a gold status and that's going to give me a lot of benefits.



Flown on: 738, 744, 762/763, 772, 77W, 788, A306, A318/319/320/321, A332/333, E145, E190, CRJ700
User currently offlinechristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6903 times:

Nice job with your first trip report, esp considering that an economy class trip on UA doesn't give a person a lot of fodder to write about! About the 727 in SFO, if nobody has answered your question, it is used by the crash and rescue team for training.


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User currently offlinedavidCA From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 69 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6868 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 3):

The poor reputation that the US airlines have for their international service puzzles me too. The UA 744 is definitely not competitive in economy, but I did NRT-HNL on the UA 777 last year and found the service, the IFE, and the cabin layout to be great. The FAs on that flight had to have been among the best in the business. I prefer AA across the pacific to JAL. Better seat pitch in Y, better drink selection, more personable staff. I haven't flown DL in a long time, but from the TRs on this site, they seem to have a great international product too.


User currently offlineFly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1044 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6814 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 14):

Hey HOONS90, I'm surprised that DL is not coming out cheap on Korea-US/Canada. It has been averaging about 1000-1100 on Canada-Korea. I was about to book but ended up going for a departure on AF LHR-CDG-ICN in late October. I can't wait to write my first TR! Hope it'll be as good as softrally's!


User currently offlinedavidCA From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 69 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6786 times:

Quoting Fly2yyz (Reply 18):
I can't wait to write my first TR! Hope it'll be as good as softrally's!

If you enjoy the trip as much as Softraly clearly enjoyed his/hers, your report is sure to be great! Reports where the writers look for things to enjoy rather than things to complain about are always a pleasure to read.


User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6599 times:

Quoting christao17 (Reply 16):
About the 727 in SFO, if nobody has answered your question, it is used by the crash and rescue team for training.

Thanks for the help. That's quite Interesting! The aircraft which is used for training at ICN looks hilarious. I have no idea of how it was made-the fuselage looks like a 747 but I have no clue about the tail. The tube looks too thin to be a MD-11 or a DC-10... Here's an image. http://goo.gl/maps/j59PH

[Edited 2012-08-19 06:21:16]


Flown on: 738, 744, 762/763, 772, 77W, 788, A306, A318/319/320/321, A332/333, E145, E190, CRJ700
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3516 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

Quoting christao17 (Reply 16):

It might be the poor photo quality but that 727 appears to have no #2 engine (removed). For training purposes, the planes usually use planes stripped of most things.



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User currently offlinechristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 21):
It might be the poor photo quality but that 727 appears to have no #2 engine (removed). For training purposes, the planes usually use planes stripped of most things.

It is stripped of all three engines, in fact.



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