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Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330  
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14816 times:

Dear readers,

Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200. A while ago fellow tripreporter "JL418" mentioned that the Italian airline was putting this oversized type on their trunk route FCO-MXP on Thursday early morning flights in August. I had a look in my agenda and worked out a trip, which should also help me to higher levels in the Skyteam alliance.

In addition to this, my friend Robert (Parton87) from Sweden figured out that we could make a small meet and greet in Rome and do the A330 together, and of course, have a dinner in town. He also made a trip for himself and I'm sure we will read about it some day too!

Al(l) Italia: 4 flights & the domestic ‘Magnifica’ A330-200!




Well, after a short night it was time to hit the skies on Wednesday, August 15 2012. I left home at 08:30am, 1h15min should be fine to get everything done e.g. printing out my boarding pass after again online check-in issues with AZ. Additionally I wanted to ask a question to the KLM reservation desk staff about another upcoming trip to the USA. I had 1 hour till departure once I arrived at AMS and got everything done.

The security check for 'Sky Priority' was unexpectedly slightly busy, but after a while staff took me over to the 'Privium lane' which speeded up things a bit. Unfortunately the officer put my bag already towards the x-ray so I told him to grab it back because a bag with liquids was inside (more them my usual little amount). When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Anyway, no big issues and through in minutes, airport people where around with questionnaires again, this time I denied. My gate was at the C-concourse, not too much of a walk. While nearing my gate (C16), I encountered with the newly opened Cafe Comunal, serving South American flavours and Cruzcampo   I'll try one next time... It was not beer-time yet.


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The new “Cafe Comunal”



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Surely this is your typical Amsterdam scene. Blue still rules. Bonjour Air France!


Boarding started almost when I got there, and priority calles where duly made for Skyteam Elite (Plus) members. This is quite a consistent service enforced by KLM ground staff, which I really appreciate.

AMS-TRN
Flight: AZ119 /15AUG12
STD 09:55 ATD 09:39
STA 11:30 ATA 11:12
A/C: EI-RDD (Embraer 175)
S/N: 02F (Economy class/Y)


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Onboard I take my seat in row 2, business class remains empty on this flight. What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO). Another thing is the bad seatpitch since my knees touch the seat in front all the time. Moreover, AZ uses a 'sliding seat', so when reclining, the back actually goes backwards, but the seat cushion slides forward, reducing legroom even more. Other then that the cushion is of hard leather look material, making it one of the most uncomfortable seats I've been on till today.

Departure is early, which is good. But when I overhear the load of only 31 passengers (27% loadfactor), it's not a big surprise really.


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Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…



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Legroom on the Alitalia Embraer 175



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Business Class row one does not look good with a missing window



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SAS does it retro in the morning


I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!), but since that moment I'm watched more closely since I am in viewpoint from the forward jumpseat.

Taxiing is done at a speedy pace, meanwhile a manual safety demonstration in Italian/English language. We taxi to runway 09, it does not take long to line up and get airborne.

Shame indeed that I can't make pictures, since the busy apron with loads of widebodies is a great view from my seat, e.g. 10 Delta Airlines widebodies parked around the E concourse.

The climb is smooth, and when we reach a higher level soon, I grab my new iPad to put on music and start writing this report.


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After takeoff from Amsterdam



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A little glimpse of (closed) Soesterberg Air Force Base (EHSB)


The first hour is very uneventful, apart from the service which consists of drinks and a snack in the form of 2 little cookies. I ask 2 drinks and that was promptly answered. Interesting to see peach juice on this flight. I decided to take this. Furthermore which got my attraction is that the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation. Why all the fuss about my camera then? Go figure!


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Economy Class Service



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Clear and smooth ride over Germany



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…and Switzerland. Here the city of Luzern and the famous peak ‘Pilatus’


At some point the Alps mountain range comes insight. And even better, clear views above my beloved Bernese Oberland region. I easily spot the central city of Interlaken, Brienzersee (Lake Brienz) and Thunersee (Lake Thun). Of course, the 3 big peaks (Eiger, Jungfraujoch, Mönch) are visible. A while later I follow the Furkapass road (I've driven this area completely by car) and spot the Rhone glacier as well. Awh... I want to go back here to drive around and go hiking in these mountains.


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Brienzersee, the city of Interlaken in between and Thunersee overflying the Bernese Oberland



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Big three: Eiger (13,025ft), Jungfraujoch (11,388ft), Mönch (13,474ft) (among others).



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The Rhone Glacier below


Soon more clouds move in over southern Switzerland, so I can't see much more now, but anyway... this was a real treat!


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Entering Italian airspace


We make a righthand turn towards Turin, and start descend. The flightdeck informs in a quick message that landing would be in 20 minutes at TRN, the weather sunny and 25°C. He thanks for flying with Alitalia.

The cabin is prepared and I must say that the purser was nice to me when I mentioned that the load was so bad but it was good for them, or a quiet flight. He replied by mentioning that they have a very long working day... So it was good to have a low load. His boss thinks different, hopefully.

Before landing on runway 36 in complete northerly direction we overfly the city, which seems like being made in the block-style layout which I remember from Barcelona. It keeps the air flowing at ground level on hot days, I've been told long ago.

Well, landing was performed and it took a few minutes to reach our stand on the apron. Disembarking was by steps and onto the awaiting Cobus.


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AleniaAermacchi industries are around here



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Something to catch for me also is this colourful cute Dornier 328Jet



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Shiny fuselage when I disembark


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A final view on EI-RDD, seen from the bus


When I walk into the terminal building I follow the 'transit' signs which -after a detour- leads me to a security checkpoint. No staff here, everything closed. I had to ring a bell and minutes later staff shows up. I beep but can walk in/out again and found 'OK', my bag goes through including liquida, camera, iPad... No problem for these Italians.

But this transit lane makes not much sense... Maybe re-enter completely is consuming the same amount of time?


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Turin; a real busy place with loads of transit passengers…


In TRN I find a well kept terminal, offering some shops selling the typical Italian design brands, 2 places to have your caffeine shot and in a certain area it is possible to leech off the Alitalia WiFi network from the VIP lounge. To obtain access you first need to receive a sms though.


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Lights off? In the middle one of the few espresso bars



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Shopping is always good in Italy and some nice brands can be found at airports



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Ciao, Windjet! I considered flying you. Luckily I didn’t! Next please…



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Jonas would love this. It has “Great TV” too! Good tasty coffee btw


I sit down to check e-mail and try to do online check-in for the flights tomorrow, but AZ replies that I need to see airport staff for my A330 flight and also the flights on UX are not eligible 'from this airport' (MXP). Life is so easy these days, sigh  

Suddenly I hear a call for Mister 'Eric' to Bari. Hey, that seems me! I take my trusty LowePro (hence also purchased by another member lol), and go to gate number 7, where a friendly female groundstaff is waiting for me.
A busgate here, I'm on the second bus with a few others only. When I enter I was clearly last, since we leave immediately. My aircraft is parked next to the -now closed off- Embraer 175 which flew me in (I thought that crew had such a long day today?).


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I-BIMA, the only Italian registered and their oldest Airbus A319 for me


TRN-BRI
Flight: AZ1640 /15AUG12
STD 12:40 ATD 12:38
STA 14:10 ATA 14:04
A/C: I-BIMA (Airbus A319)
S/N: 03F (Economy class/Y)


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As expected, an Airbus A319, and an oldie she is. Boarding via the forward door and I think that this bird is in urgent need for a repainting job. The Italian sun damages the paint, like it's human skin.


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Give me new paint. Per favore!!


When I step inside, a friendly 'bon giorno' and boarding pass is checked. I'm in row 3, whichnis in the 'business class cabin' or just in front of the curtain here. The middle seat is empty and I am comfortable here. Legroom is good, and not that stupid sliding style seat as I got on Alitalia CityLiner.

Departure is just taxi out from the stand, a little ahead of schedule. Good performance here as well. The safety demo is on the overhead dropdown screens, hardly visible though. But it takes a while and are already on the runway when it finishes. I notice that the purser pushes the 'cabin safe' button on the ceiling of the forward galley, and immediately thrust applied and we were rolling down the runway. It gives a bit rushed feeling to me.


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Taxiing out. ‘cheaper’ MeridianaFly is using the jetty. Alitalia does it cheap style by bus



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Beautiful DC-3: I-LEON of Linee Aeree Italiane



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…and up in the air again. View towards the airport



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Good legroom here


Service on this flight is free drinks only and I get coffee and water. The coffee is good here, but they serve only half filled cups. Probably espresso style, who knows.


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Alitalia domestic service and my tripreport being written



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Calm flight crossing Italy


I doze off for some moments too, music on, sun in my face. Soon we would be landing too, since I woke up when the cabin was already checked. I notice a lot of agriculture around Bari, mostly trees. I think they grow olives here?
Minutes later we touch the concrete of runway 07 and slow down quickly so we can use an intersection to vacate the runway. On the apron here I only see 2 Ryanair Boeing 737-800's, and we park at gate 3, next to one of these examples departing to MST. I wonder if these flights are a success, since from the air, this region doesn't attract me, but I can be wrong too.


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At BRI, parking next to Ryanair (this one is ready for MST)


In a change to both Ryanair flights, we use the jetty to disembark and I'm off quickly. Once inside the building (they're expanding it), I do not see any signage stating transfer, hence I decide to go in the pulic.

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Deplane via the jetty at BRI



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Another boring Italian airport corridor



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It’s booming here… in need for expansion? Apperentely they do!



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Baggage reclaim area



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Once outside, this is the terminal building from outside


I wanted to print out a original boarding pass here, so I first went to the self service kiosk, where I was very surprised to see my seat, after several hours of trying online check in the day before and finally managed to score 01F, was now changed to 09D. WTF?! It is not even a window. I check the seatmap and notice a change of aircraft, from A321 to the smaller A320. Still, it does not make sense to relocate the forward rows in my opinion, but anyway. In the aft cabin it seems basically nobody was sitting, so I opt for 28F here. OK for me.


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Alitalia Check-In. Looks like a pretty set up this way!



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Please… no aisle seat!


I try to connect the internet on my phone via the free WiFi (?) offered, but it does not make connection at all. Of course also these things are part of life in these airports.

Security was a breeze here, no beeps or further checks. A few small shops in the clean area, but some are closed. Gate number 4 for my flight to Rome, and indeed, an A320 is being prepared. It's one in Alitalia livery for me.


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FIDS



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Departure Lounge



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The Airbus A320-200 for my flight to FCO


Boarding is announced really early also here, and when I judge the amount of people around, indeed a light load is to be expected.

BRI-FCO
Flight: AZ1616 /15AUG12
STD 15:10 ATD 14:59
STA 16:20 ATA 15:59
A/C: EI-DSO (Airbus A320-200)
S/N: 28F (Economy class/Y)


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Onboard I am friendly greeted, by all 4 crewmembers. Especially an older male is super friendly and even in for a little chat when he recognizes my picture taking of the blowing airconditioning. I haven't seen this for a while, let alone on these newer Airbuses.
The small screens are working this time (first time for me!), but the safety demo is done the old fashioned way or manually. Dropdown screens like on the much older A319 I just flew are not installed on this aircraft either. Sometimes this company is hard to follow...so many difference. You just don't know what to expect.


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Cabin view on boarding



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Air Conditioning Blowing around



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… because I like it


We leave early by about 10 minutes, another great performance here. We taxi out to runway 07 again for take off after a Ryanair 737 lands. I can see the airport during climb as well Bari and it's port fom where you can take long distance ferries to Greece.


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Lining up the runway



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Airborne! See the ferries along side in the port



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Then it’s blue… the sea and sky are with you here


The flight is smooth and standard by now. Drinks served, my usual selection again on AZ. Friendly served, and this male F/A answers on my request for coffee that I probably need it because the hot sun makes you feel tired. Well, I think he is right about it.
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.


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Drink service


Before arrival the weather forecast is given for Rome FCO: good conditions and 29°C. The F/A tells me later that it was probably more hot. Once again, he was proven right.

During approach I notice one bad thing again, with the cabin preperation. My bag was not under the seat, as well that lady in 28C, her large bag was located on seat 28B. So the crew was not keeping good attention... where have I seen this before?!


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Moments before landing: the cabin was ‘not secure’


Landing was very smooth, like kissing a runway surface, real good. Taxiing was fast Italian driving, just minutes later we arrive at an unknown parking stand all the way from runway 16L.


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Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think



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For our Belgian and Spanish members… almost there!


A real friendly arriverdeci when I leave, also the captain is at doorside to say goodbye.

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Here stops my flying for day 1, since I will meet with Robert now for a dinner together. I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation. Though the 2nd bus is mine, and Terravision staff keep good control that everybody behaves and waits patiently.
The bus itself is kept in good shape inside, and the ride takes me 35 minutes instead of the expected 1 hour. It is a half past 5pm when I meet up at Termini railway station. We walk slowly to a calm street where we have some delicious Italian food and wine. The total bill for 2 starters, 2 garlic bread, 2 mains, 2 tiramisu, 1 liter wine and 2 coffee was just over 50 Euro. Real good!
After dinner we stroll around a bit till we take the last coach service back to FCO. It leaves at 9.50pm from Termini.


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This Terravision coach took me into town (35 minute ride, not 1 hour)



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Starter: caprese



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Main: one of my best pizza’s ever (tuna topping)



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Alitalia crew member in green dress?



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Hello from the waiter and a picture of the street we were eating



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Time for dessert? Homemade tiramisu. Yummy!



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A quick after-dinner-walk



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Tunnel in the night



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Fontains… (I prefer the Barcelona ones lol)



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… not the only ones around here


Once back at FCO, and before going to our hotel, we want to check-in for the A330 flight, but also the self service kiosk replies 1) reservation not found (after reading my frequent flyer card) and 2) go see airport staff (after input of my ticket number).
We decide to ask a male officer at the reservation desk, who is a bit 'difficult' at first but turns to be real friendly and helped us out.
The agent confirms our reservation, the A330 too, even the registration. I ask if we can get seats allocated and he acknowledges, that he would even give us a boarding pass. He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great! We thank him a lot and go off for a 10 minute walk to the Hilton Rome Airport hotel, where we obtain a twin room on the second floor.


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FCO terminal departure level. Quiet at night!


The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.
In the lobby a free to use 'check-in only' computer/printer is available, but my try on UX doesn't work. Failure of MS Internet Explorer, and after complaining at the reception we obtain a voucher for free internet on the normal PC's, but it does not work again in IE. Therefore I install Firefox, and try again. Now it worked!
Well, afterwards we call it a night and take our well deserved 5 hours of sleep. Till we wake up at 6am, ready to go on. Day number 2!


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Hilton Rome Airport



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Hilton Rome Airport: the lobby



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Hilton Rome Airport: the room. Nothing that impresses honestly



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Room picture no. 2



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A sneak preview in the hangars though… (from the room)


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At 710am we walk off back to terminal 1 from where the domestics flights leave. I talked with Robert about the happenings in Spain with security, and I feel the same sometimes when I'm in Italy. So, still I have a 0,75l bottle of water half empty, and place it in the upper compartment of my bagpack. And guess what? Indeed the officer is as disinterested as his Spanish collegues. I successfully pass without any problem, so I save myself a few Euros and there is no need to buy myself a new bottle.
After we pass we find a similar Sky Bar Lounge as I saw in TRN, only brioches are much cheaper, and my girella is 10 cents more expensive. Strange pricing along the same branded chain of airport bars. It was good though to have this and a 'doppio espresso' for breakfast. Furthermore I spend a bit of money in the Nike Store on a nice t-shirt before heading off to our busgate B14.


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Dedicated check-in zone for the Rome-Milan flights



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Down to the (bus)gate


Boarding starts right away when we arrive, priority boarding strictly followed though not completely: Robert slips through with me  
The Cobus is not full at all and drives us along one of these Carpatair Fokker 70s operating for Alitalia to a remote spot where I immediately spot the really beautiful Airbus A330-200 in shining paint. When we get off the bus the neccesary picture taking do not give any problems here. Staff are quite relaxed here!


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The A330 already visible while on the bus. Nice MD-80’s too here!



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Markus likes this. Under the wing of this A330



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Another shiny and clean aircraft. Beautiful!


Boarding via the forward or rear stairs here.

FCO-MXP
Flight: AZ1016 /16AUG12
STD 08:30 ATD 08:44
STA 10:00 ATA 10:02
A/C: EI-EJI (Airbus A330-200)
S/N: 06A (Domestic ‘Magnifica’ class/Y)


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Onboard a very warm welcome by a more senior female F/A and greeted by some male F/As also. I am in 06A, so first to the right and through the galley. My seat, first right again: it is in the second business class 'Magnifica' cabin consisting of just rows 6 and 7 and offering 8 seata in total with a comfy 1-2-1 layout. The seat on 06A or L would be my preference since it is ideally located on the window which increases the feel of privacy too.
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Well, a huge (for me) IFE touchscreen in front, good legroom of course, some storage space and power supply. The seat goes lie-flat and offers 2 massage programs too. This is the way to fly on Alitalia. Though I am not directly in love with it. It's my feeling.


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My seat is 06A



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”Magnifica Class”



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I’ll survive this hours flight for sure



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Remote control



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Plug In here…



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Blling bling (personal?) air fans



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Comfortable for sure. It makes a flatbed too if you like…



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Large IFE touchscreen



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…till the safety demo starts


We leave a bit later, for unknown reason. And taxi out slowly to runway 25 for takeoff. The takeoff roll is not long, not to my surprise: low load of fuel and 86 passengers...
I really hope that this flight is neccesary to re-position the aircraft for operational reasons.


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On schedule another time on a longer flight…



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Taxiing with a mad dog taking the skies!



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Lining up the runway at FCO



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Off we go! Good climb rate here and a good view too!



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Where do we go?



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A seat with a view for sure!


Once airborne I do some more pictures in the cabin, and once I got back to my seat, coffee is offered. Like usual again. I ask if the crew is OK with my picture taking and he replied "yeah, go ahead!". Later a female F/A comes to make a picture of me when I am in my seat. How nice of her!


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Business ‘Magnifica’ Class



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Premium ‘Classica Plus’ Economy Class



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Economy Class


The flight continues smoothly and is just under 1 hour, and during descend the captain announces good weather condition also around Milan with a temperature of 24°C on landing.


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Do you understand why I love flying?


I finally follow the approach also on the nose camera, runway 35R for us. A Delta Airlines 767-400 holds short... I really want to fly on it but Nicholas is going to beat me on it despite my US trip.


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Onboard camera just before landing



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Short finals now…


After landing we taxi to a parking spot and move ourselves in between B-KPG, a B777-300ER of Cathay Pacific and HS-TNB, a beautiful Thai A340-600.


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Parking next to this beautiful long Airbus A340 from Thailand


Disembarking via forwards stairs, I am the first person off, try to make a picture of the nose section of the aircraft, but a very unfriendly young female agent stops me from doing so. Malpensa, shut up please. Why so unfriendly all the time?!


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After disembarking a final view on this large Airbus


This Milan groundhandling people judge that 86 people fit in 1 bus (in FCO we conveniently had 2 buses), so the tour to arrivals is less comfortable. Still, a great start with this 'special' flight. Also Robert spotted my next aircraft already at the gate, so it seems time to say goodbye to eachother. Robert goes sightseeing in Milan for the day and back a the train at night, while I go on to Spain!


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Next: Air Europa! On that particular Boeing 737-800


Up the escalator for me, I follow transfers. No additional security check, real welcome by me. Some duty free once back in the terminal, what else is new… the continuation? That comes in part no. 2


Thanks for reading about my experiences on Alitalia, which I personally enjoyed a lot. This airline is somewhat different. Always in for a surprise. Sometimes not customer minded. Sometimes very customer minded. Disinterested staffs all around, but also very friendly people here who are more then happy to have a talk and be of assistance. I think the onboard crews deliver a better experience then the ones on the ground. But this is Alitalia. I like it (although sometimes they just annoy me)  

Your feedback, comments, or whatever. I would appreciate to hear from you!

Part no. 2 is coming up soon… with more flights but then on that airline from Spain: Air Europa. Stay tuned…


Regards
Eric


"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
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User currently offlinetobbry From Sweden, joined May 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14704 times:

Nice report Eric! It seems that AZ has a good product. I have only flown with the once and I enyoed it. (I met Johannes LX747SP onboard).

I'll be on two AZ flights in september and I'll meet you at MXP in January

 
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia crew member in green dress?


I think it's SAS crew working extra at AZ.. 


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 1711 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14556 times:

Hoi Eric, great report!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200.

So you couldn't stick out until December, since you'll fly the A330 then? Or was it perhaps the B777 you would fly.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The security check for 'Sky Priority' was unexpectedly slightly busy

So they still give SkyPriority to Skyteam Elite members? I thought it was only for Elite Plus, now with Delta demanding some changes.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I encountered with the newly opened Cafe Comunal, serving South American flavours and Cruzcampo

Place looks quite nice, wouldn't mind spending some time there. Were the prices good, or airport overpriced?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

That looks really awful, was it a fault made by maintenance crew, or as a result of the slimline seats i.e to cram in more passengers.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!)

Well aircrafts are built to withstand lightning strikes, and the cables are well protected and shielded with several kilometers of steel net.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I grab my new iPad to put on music and start writing this report.

Really, are you that busy these days that you've to start writing already mid-air!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation.

Well "regulation" only prohibits the cockpit door to be open when flying to/from/over certain countries e.g UK, Israel, USA. Otherwise it's more subject to the company policies, hence why pilots often times invite friends and such into the cockpit mid-air.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Something to catch for me also is this colourful cute Dornier 328Jet

But you've logged the 328 Jet already!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Jonas would love this. It has “Great TV” too! Good tasty coffee btw

Hehe, well those seaters look comfortable! If the espresso is reasonably priced, I wouldn't mind spending one hour or two there  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I-BIMA, the only Italian registered and their oldest Airbus A319 for me

So how comes they chose to register all their aircraft in Ireland?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
but they serve only half filled cups. Probably espresso style, who knows.

Well that's standard practice on many airlines, they do it mostly to prevent spilling and such. At least it's the case on SAS (also union crazed airline), so maybe some Union enforcement which the italians are more than fond to have.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

Oh well, maybe she thought you were hot  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
For our Belgian and Spanish members… almost there!

Too bad they're all crap airlines...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation.

I'm thinking of opting for Terravision too when I go to Rome. Did you book the ticket on internet, or were you able to get that cheap price when purchasing on site?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We thank him a lot and go off for a 10 minute walk to the Hilton Rome Airport hotel, where we obtain a twin room on the second floor.

So you didn't opt for two separate rooms? What happened to your need for privacy  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

I think the grey leather colors look very nice and stylish, typically italian. But true some small touches of green would've liven things up here and there.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Do you understand why I love flying?

Yes, when Business Class is the way to do, don't we all love flying! 

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14501 times:
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Hi Eric!

Another great report as usual. Looks like you had some nice flights with Alitalia, not that impressed with your first flight though, unprofessional crew and tight seat pitch! L
Love your pictures nice and clear  
Those Magnifica seats look pretty nice except for the color, a bit dull IMO


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

another example how "weird" the security can be at AMS

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

How can they let that happen, very weird

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Shame indeed that I can't make pictures, since the busy apron with loads of widebodies is a great view from my seat, e.g. 10 Delta Airlines widebodies parked around the E concourse.

Thats too bad

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Furthermore which got my attraction is that the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation

Very unprofessional!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Here the city of Luzern and the famous peak ‘Pilatus’

Great shot

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alps mountain range

Beautiful pictures of the alps, oh the joy of flying!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Air Conditioning Blowing around

wow, haven't seen that myself before

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

Same opinion here

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
not the only ones around here

very busy!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great!

That was very nice of him

Looking forward to part 2!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14478 times:

Hi guys,
thanks for your replies!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So you couldn't stick out until December, since you'll fly the A330 then? Or was it perhaps the B777 you would fly.

You're assuming wrong here. I have no flightbookings at all for December, especially not on AZ

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So they still give SkyPriority to Skyteam Elite members? I thought it was only for Elite Plus, now with Delta demanding some changes.

Who is DL to say something about FlyingBlue and what benefits each status gets on FlyingBlue. Especially these benefits are the ones pointed out as 'benefits' for Silver (and higher of course)

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Place looks quite nice, wouldn't mind spending some time there. Were the prices good, or airport overpriced?

Even without trying I tell you it's overpriced to your standards. I'll go there anyway, next time I'm around at a suitable time.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
That looks really awful, was it a fault made by maintenance crew, or as a result of the slimline seats i.e to cram in more passengers.

No fault by anybody. It's AZ's layout on these Embraers. Horrible and worse then any CRJ-700/900  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Well "regulation" only prohibits the cockpit door to be open when flying to/from/over certain countries e.g UK, Israel, USA. Otherwise it's more subject to the company policies, hence why pilots often times invite friends and such into the cockpit mid-air.

I thought this rule was/is valid on all EU-carriers so that includes AZ.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
But you've logged the 328 Jet already!

No. I haven't!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So how comes they chose to register all their aircraft in Ireland?

Cheaper taxes and insurance costs.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Oh well, maybe she thought you were hot

Do you think so too?  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Too bad they're all crap airlines...

Hey, I can only agree  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
I'm thinking of opting for Terravision too when I go to Rome. Did you book the ticket on internet, or were you able to get that cheap price when purchasing on site?

Same price, on spot. But it can be busy and pre-printed it's so much easier. The queue of people moves quickly and it's busy with tourists at all companies (except Alitalia Bus, but it's EUR 7 oneway)

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So you didn't opt for two separate rooms?

No.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Yes, when Business Class is the way to do, don't we all love flying!

I was more commenting on the view and not on the cabin I was in Jonas   I can enjoy flying as much as I did in economy class, where I usually like to be seated.

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
It seems that AZ has a good product. I have only flown with the once and I enyoed it. (I met Johannes LX747SP onboard).

That's nice to meet another a.netter on board. Did you know in advance that he was onboard? Onboard AZ is really ok

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
I'll meet you at MXP in January

  

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
I think it's SAS crew working extra at AZ

Lol! Could be indeed

Regards
Eric



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Reply 5, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14291 times:
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Alitalia crew member in green dress?


More like a USA FA on a layover......



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14243 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 5):
Alitalia crew member in green dress?

More like a USA FA on a layover......

LOL that's another good option indeed. Any specific airline maybe?   



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1688 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14136 times:

Really wonderful TR, Eric; love your pictures esp. !!!

Lousy groundstaff and great F/A's ? sounds like similar to Qatar Airways  

Think that Business-Class looks quite stylish; typical Italian colour-setting, though...

Waiting eagerly for your UX flight...

Ciao,

MH017/Pietro...



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Reply 8, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14061 times:
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Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
LOL that's another good option indeed. Any specific airline maybe?

From the looks of her I am going with any of the USA's carriers, DL, AA, UA or US, though by the cankles AA or UA win my vote.



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1283 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13861 times:

Great read Eric - looking forward to part 2!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Thats Mad!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family

Same with Flybe too - annoying!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Shame indeed that I can't make pictures,

Funny how i had no problems at all at the weekend on KLM - I was even seen by a FA on finals with my dSLR and they didn't say a word. I guess it was because we were flying over London at night and was taking more 'touristy' type pics than anything less ordinary?



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26933 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13821 times:

Hey Eric  

Great report I have been looking forward to this one since you told me you were taking it . I loved all the pictures and the Magnifica Class photos. The Prem Y looks quite decent too . That would be nice all the way to NRT  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Time for dessert? Homemade tiramisu. Yummy!

Yummy that is soooo nice looking !

Thanks for the pleasant read and Im already looking forward to the next part .

Regards

Philip  


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1930 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13361 times:
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Sounds like a great trip, Eric!

Views from all your flights were really good. Was there any service on your FCO-MXP flight, to speak of?

Thanks for sharing!

Best,

Matthew


User currently offlineaussiepomm From Australia, joined Mar 2011, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13218 times:

Thanks for a great trip report... I loved your recount of the trip, and the commentary whilst over the Alps!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

I had the very same issue with security in AMS when I was going through last July - they were simply rude, and even though I wanted to keep an 'eye' on what was happening with my camera gear, the second security was consistently asking me questions... I looked at him, replied and then looked back at the end of the belt leading into the x-ray...

Anyway, thanks for a great TR!!



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5088 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13107 times:

Eric,

Awesome report on a variety of AZ frames. Thanks for writing it up, and for the good pictures. Sometimes, I wish I lived in Europe and could do these weekend itineraries! The guy @ FCO was super cool to give you the upgrade -- though surprised that JCL did not offer any small snack?

Saludos,
A.



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12897 times:

Hi all,
thanks for your comments. Good to hear your opinions!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
Looks like you had some nice flights with Alitalia, not that impressed with your first flight though, unprofessional crew and tight seat pitch

That seatpitch is not made for tall Dutchmen  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
Those Magnifica seats look pretty nice except for the color, a bit dull IMO

Same opinion. Lightgrey gets boring. A bit of mix with darker grey or green would be nice though.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
How can they let that happen, very weird

Just a lowcost style placement of seats in the cabin it seems. A bit dissappointing compared to e.g. BA, EN and LH.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 7):
Think that Business-Class looks quite stylish; typical Italian colour-setting, though...

I think a bit colours could make it look better, or maybe something with the carpet.

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 8):
From the looks of her I am going with any of the USA's carriers, DL, AA, UA or US, though by the cankles AA or UA win my vote.

 
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Same with Flybe too - annoying!

Also lowcost setup. It seems AZ follows this idea.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Funny how i had no problems at all at the weekend on KLM - I was even seen by a FA on finals with my dSLR and they didn't say a word

Also last weekend for me, on Cityjet, no problem with my DSLR on approach. But I usually hide it during the 'check' moments.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
I have been looking forward to this one since you told me you were taking it . I loved all the pictures and the Magnifica Class photos. The Prem Y looks quite decent too . That would be nice all the way to NRT

Let's see and hope that we can get a grip on these seats.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 11):
Was there any service on your FCO-MXP flight, to speak of?

A drink service, only. That's domestic service on AZ (water, coffee, tea)

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 12):
I loved your recount of the trip, and the commentary whilst over the Alps!!

Thanks. Lovely moments over Switzerland!

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 12):
I had the very same issue with security in AMS when I was going through last July - they were simply rude, and even though I wanted to keep an 'eye' on what was happening with my camera gear

Also my impression, most of the times, sometimes rude staff and following their 'own rules' it seems.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
Awesome report on a variety of AZ frames. Thanks for writing it up, and for the good pictures.

Thanks Alex. Not a single same aircraft type... indeed I was impressed even myself

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
The guy @ FCO was super cool to give you the upgrade -- though surprised that JCL did not offer any small snack?

AZ does not sell JCL on domestic portions, but with this a/c type possible to score these seats. Most passengers got normal YCL seats though. Maybe some higher fare classes or Elites were able to get the seats in front. I don't really know.
Service wise I got a cup of coffee. That's all. No snacks or whatever since it's not real JCL here.

Regards
Eric



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User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12826 times:

Hi Eric !

Thanks for a great report with very nice pictures !

The ERJ-175 doesn't look very comfortable....very cramped and very bad with the misaligned windows.

It seems you had a great time in Italy which is my favorite country in Europe along with France. Especially the countryside is great although Rome has a lot of sights to see. People in Rome are not so friendly a lot of the time.....

Flights on AZ seem very good! Nice to catch a widebody on a domestic flight. Seats look really nice and I even like the grey color. I flew AirEurope MXP-FCO-MLE on their 777 and the MXP-FCO was a short flight for a 777.

You should have a great flight to NRT on the AZ 777!

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12810 times:

Hoi Eric


Great trip report, thanks for sharing it with us.
AZ looks great as usual, Rome is also pretty nice.
Nice catch on J class on the A330. It seems like AZ is really doing good by replacing the 767's with these birds. Y+ and Y look comfy as well

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12260 times:

Great report Eric! Nice to read about your AZ 330 experience.
Also some other interesting Italian flights, great that you took some 'detours' to TRN and BRI as well instead of a simple direct flight to Rome!


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12243 times:

Hi guys, some more replies here, really good to see. Thank you!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
The ERJ-175 doesn't look very comfortable....very cramped and very bad with the misaligned windows.

Indeed, my worst E-jet experience to date is here on AZ

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
It seems you had a great time in Italy which is my favorite country in Europe along with France.

Don't forget Greece. Although, that's also in my list of top-destinations in Europe.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
People in Rome are not so friendly a lot of the time.....

Can't comment since I met friendly ones during my short stay  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
I flew AirEurope MXP-FCO-MLE on their 777 and the MXP-FCO was a short flight for a 777.

Really interesting. I remember they had 2 of these aircraft, and I always thought they were some 'special kind of airline' from Italy.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
You should have a great flight to NRT on the AZ 777!

I'm really looking forward to this trip btw

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
AZ looks great as usual,

Sure Marc, they do just a good job here.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
Nice catch on J class on the A330. It seems like AZ is really doing good by replacing the 767's with these birds. Y+ and Y look comfy as well

I must say, Y looks really good to me on this A330 at least. No problem for a longer flight it seems.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 17):
Nice to read about your AZ 330 experience.

Thanks Robert. Even better to fly  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 17):
Also some other interesting Italian flights, great that you took some 'detours' to TRN and BRI as well instead of a simple direct flight to Rome!

I'm still an a.netter... nothing goes really uncomplicated directly to it's destination here.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12242 times:

Great report! Lucky you to get the Magnifica class seats. How come there were using an A330, is this done on a usual basis? I also realized UX seems to have a one time A330 on MAD-FCO sometime on october...

User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12107 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 18):
Don't forget Greece.

Not so fond of Greece; not a great experience when I was there in 1988. People weren't very friendly at all and that's a huge understatement.

The777Man



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3243 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11739 times:

Very nice report Eric. Great that you could fly in C for a Y price on that lovely plane! Looks like you had a nice day or two flying around sunny and warm Italia!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

I've seen quite a few E jets with wondows like that...very annoying

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Big three: Eiger (13,025ft), Jungfraujoch (11,388ft), Mönch (13,474ft) (among others).

Lovely photo!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):

The small screens are working this time (first time for me!)

I thought that they were always off on shorthual (or just not installed?)

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

I agree, very nice!



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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11584 times:

Hola Eric!

Great report of your Italian adventure... great photos, lovely scenery and so far seems great flights on AZ.

Sad to see the disinterest some of the crew showed to security on the flights, sadly this does not up to the reputation of an airline when you see this kind of behavior. When reading episodes like this I remember how I was yelled at by a captain to stand behind the line when I was waiting to get in the bathroom on a NW flight AMS-SEA as he was getting out of the cockpit. He may teach something to this crew, I guess they did not share the same safety instructor  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

Be aware that this is not exclusive of AZ, LX has this problem too on A333 9th row, so be aware. C class and only slight access to a window on the back of the seat.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Fontains… (I prefer the Barcelona ones lol)

I have to disagree here, how can you go over this piece of Baroque art? I find Trevi Fountain to be one of the most marvelous pieces of art for such an elementary thing as bringing water to a city. Barcelona Montjuïc ones are OK for color and music but nothing beats la Fontana di Trevi; did you throw the coin backwards and made a wish?

Looking forward to reading your UX experience.

Salut!

Roger

[Edited 2012-08-30 08:50:48]

[Edited 2012-08-30 08:52:02]


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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11403 times:

Hi Eric,

Good to see this trip report with a lagom amount of high quality pictures.

Nice idea to catch that widebody on a short hop, something you've done before as well. Italy looks good weatherwise and nice for you

Alitalia is indeed a bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes you get terrible crews but usually the in air product is okay, although they could really serve something a bit more substantial (both food- and drinkwise) on the longer sectors over 1,5 hours or so. For the domestic Italian hops I find the service to be enough. But ground handling usually sucks big time.
Nice idea to go scouting a bit in Bari before returning there in style next year - did you spot the hotel I told you about?

Also good to catch a joint flight with Robert!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200

Well I'm sure those qualifying segments didn't exactly hurt either, did they?  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Schiphol security and Eric - there's always something! I bet they have a picture of you (wearing your green top) somewhere in the security staff room which they use as a darts target  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
A/C: EI-RDD (Embraer 175)

Nice catch. As I told you I'm trying for one coming back from our roundabout trip to Bari  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Onboard I take my seat in row 2, business class remains empty on this flight. What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO).

Never fly a Finnair (or a FlyBE Nordic) E-jet then, every single window on those birds is very badly misaligned! Gives you a helluva sore neck. Seems to be pretty commonplace on the type.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Legroom on the Alitalia Embraer 175

Looks tight! You seem to be wearing appropriate shorts to go to Italy - heck flying there a year ago I got plenty of comments from my far more modest if a bit contemporary shorts!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation. Why all the fuss about my camera then? Go figure!

Well most of these security rules are utter rubbish, and often made up on the spot.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Brienzersee, the city of Interlaken in between and Thunersee overflying the Bernese Oberland

Nice shot, now I finally understand why it is called Interlaken, I've always wondered about that! Sounded like a really weird name until you realize it really is BETWEEN the lakes.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
my bag goes through including liquida, camera, iPad... No problem for these Italians.

Nice! That's the way it should be. Nothing dangerous in there anyway.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
But this transit lane makes not much sense... Maybe re-enter completely is consuming the same amount of time?

Well I bet you were the only passenger transitting there that day. Must see as much action as the transit lane in Saarbrücken  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
(I thought that crew had such a long day today?).

By Italian standards a whopping two flights is a long day  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I wonder if these flights are a success, since from the air, this region doesn't attract me, but I can be wrong too.

Hey, Puglia is great. You didn't pay attention to my report from there last year then? Hands down the friendliest and most civilized part of Italy which usually varies from the terrible (Rome, Naples) to "interesting" (Calabria) to passable (Milan, Bologna, Sicily) to "so damn touristic" (Verona, Venice).

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The small screens are working this time (first time for me!), but the safety demo is done the old fashioned way or manually.

Wow, so those screens are actually turned on sometimes, that's indeed a first! And you didn't even have to swipe your credit card (they call it "security demonstration surcharge") to activate it?  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Air Conditioning Blowing around

Those effects are always interesting and funny to see the reaction of your fellow passengers...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I can see the airport during climb as well Bari and it's port fom where you can take long distance ferries to Greece.

Familiar sights, had the same take off on my Air One BRI-MXP flight. There are also ferries to Albania and some of the ex-Yugoslav states too.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Then it’s blue… the sea and sky are with you here

Now that's an amazing photo! The Adriatic is such a beautiful sea.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

You know, she didn't realize you batted for the wrong team. She was hitting on you.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

Oh, I didn't know they had one too. Very, very nice - I must agree with you on this one!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Here stops my flying for day 1, since I will meet with Robert now for a dinner together. I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation. Though the 2nd bus is mine, and Terravision staff keep good control that everybody behaves and waits patiently.

Hey, that's a very nice price. I just looked them up for my stay there before the NRT trip (was planning on sleeping rough at the airport) but even though they claim to have buses running 24h per day they have no buses between 23.00 and 5 AM. Kinda useless since my flight from FRA will arrive at 23.40, so I'll stick to the airport.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Starter: caprese

Yummy!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Main: one of my best pizza’s ever (tuna topping)

Looks good, love tuna. Although the best pizza I ever ate was in Ljubljana, Slovenia.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The agent confirms our reservation, the A330 too, even the registration. I ask if we can get seats allocated and he acknowledges, that he would even give us a boarding pass. He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great!

Very nice from him! Congrats! Good for you to give him " a second chance" and not just walk away based on your first impressions...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.

Those prices sound just like Finland! Although the G&T is not that expensive here. But that's a Hilton so what do you expect!?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Yeah, looks a little dull and not very "Italian".

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I’ll survive this hours flight for sure

Just barely. Anything longer would be pushing it I guess  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Blling bling (personal?) air fans

Very suitable for bling bling class. Bling bling persons like a certain Swede would feel right at home underneath these.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Robert goes sightseeing in Milan for the day and back a the train at night, while I go on to Spain!

Oh, trying out the new high speed train I hope?

Part 2 should be interesting - UX isn't exactly a very classy carrier and I'm sure you'll agree with me...


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11373 times:
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Hey Eric, great read!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
again online check-in issues with AZ.

- Seems to be a common problem with AZ, what century are they in?

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Cruzcampo   I'll try one next time... It was not beer-time yet.

- It's always 12:00 somewhere!

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What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO). Another thing is the bad seatpitch since my knees touch the seat in front all the time

- Interesting, legroom on the BA machines is great.

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the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation.

- Now this must violate some kind of aviation law these days.

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a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

- People are odd!

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delicious Italian food and wine. The total bill for 2 starters, 2 garlic bread, 2 mains, 2 tiramisu, 1 liter wine and 2 coffee was just over 50 Euro. Real good!

- Good price, I thought Rome was expensive!

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The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.

- Ouch! - Reminds me of bar prices at the airport hotel in HND, a beer cost me £16!

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I talked with Robert about the happenings in Spain with security, and I feel the same sometimes when I'm in Italy. So, still I have a 0,75l bottle of water half empty, and place it in the upper compartment of my bagpack. And guess what? Indeed the officer is as disinterested as his Spanish collegues. I successfully pass without any problem, so I save myself a few Euros and there is no need to buy myself a new bottle.

- Funny, when we flew back from MAH back in May the screeners saw a glass vase in the hand luggage and assumed it was a bottle of water!

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. I am in 06A, so first to the right and through the galley. My seat, first right again: it is in the second business class 'Magnifica' cabin consisting of just rows 6 and 7 and offering 8 seata in total with a comfy 1-2-1 layout. The seat on 06A or L would be my preference since it is ideally located on the window which increases the feel of privacy too.
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Well, a huge (for me) IFE touchscreen in front, good legroom of course, some storage space and power supply. The seat goes lie-flat and offers 2 massage programs too. This is the way to fly on Alitalia. Though I am not directly in love with it. It's my feeling.

- Looks nice but needs colour.

Cheers

Mark



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25 Post contains images deltamartin : Hi Eric! Nice report, with great pictures as usual! Glad to see you enjoyed Alitalia, and also nice to see a few pictures from Rome, after being there
26 PlaneHunter : Hi Eric, great report with stunning pictures, very good idea to fly AZ's A332 on such a short route. I wouldn't mind to try it on a longer flight. The
27 Knightsofmalta : Hi Eric Thanks for the interesting report. I was unaware of the fact the AZ deployed the A330 on the Milan-Rome route. The A330's hardware looks rathe
28 palmjet : Hi Eric Super report - I am so pleased you posted a report on your AZ 332 experience. Great photos (as always!) too. Interested to read about your obs
29 Post contains images win1290 : Hi Eric, Thank you for writing this very nice trip report, really enjoyed reading it From your experience, some of the AZ crew sounds genuinely nice,
30 CPAir : Very nice TR. Thanks for share!
31 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Eric, A most excellent read on this all-AZ jolly (in this report that is). You got a nice variety of new and older, nice and less nice aircraft.
32 lukeyboy95 : Hi Eric, I think this report gets my vote for some of the most beautiful aerial photography of the Alps,. Stunning photos... really. Actually, I know
33 Widebodyroga : A very pleasant read Eric. Fortunately AZ did not give you too much trouble as it is customary. Like Luke said the photos of the Alps look breathtakin
34 flightsimboy : You always have such sharp crisp photos....Enjoyed viewing them and reading the trip report too.
35 Post contains images airbuseric : Hiya guys, what good to see all the new replies! Thanks According user 'JL418' only on this route on specific days in August/September 2012. The UX on
36 Post contains images airbuseric : I should go again to see more in the city, making a longer visit. Ouch, just before they were gone. Must've been a cramped experience. Indeed, very c
37 LXM83 : Hello airbuseric Nice report. Always great to catch a widebody on a short-haul assigment. Yes, and your pictures are great. Indeed some people are fun
38 Post contains images infodesk : Hi Eric, Good to read another one of your reports and congrats on logging the A330, what a great trip to make. I personally like the grey seats on AZ
39 Post contains images airbuseric : Hi Swiss members, thanks for your replies and votes from Zurich Indeed, my idea! Always in for something different. How about you, but I can spend hou
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