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Riding A Magic Carpet? TAM 330/GRU-MAD + LH To MUC  
User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9880 times:



Welcome to my 8th tripreport!

This report covers my journey from Sao Paulo-Guarulhos (GRU) to Munich (MUC) via Madrid (MAD) on a TAM A330-200 and a Lufthansa A320.


This trip took place a couple of months back in December 2011. I am sorry if this report lacks some of the details you might expect.


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Thanks to Great Circle Mapper – http://www.gcmap.com – Copyright © 1996-2012 Karl L. Swartz.


Those two flights covered in this report are the continuation of my flights home from Bolivia where I spent a couple of months and also did some domestic flying. You can find the links to those reports at the end of the report. For the first part of my journey, including the check-in procedure and the first two legs with TACA and TAM from La Paz (LPB) to Lima (LIM) please follow this link: Andes Hopping On Taca Perú And TAM: LPB-LIM-GRU (by volvair Apr 6 2012 in Trip Reports)

The TAM flight and the first two flights which got me from La Paz to Sao Paulo were part of an Europe-La Paz-Europe open-jaw ticket I booked back in spring 2011. The ticket originated in Milan and ended in Madrid. The ticket allowed me to fly TAM's A340-500 in its last week of operation and it included segments with TACA and AeroSur. Of the latter we will most likely read no more here on the forum as it ceased operations a short while ago.

As the ticket ended in Madrid, I booked a simple connection with Lufthansa to get me back to Munich. The TACA agent checking me in at La Paz had been unable to check my luggage all the way through to MUC, which wasn't a problem for me as I had plenty of time to make the connection in Madrid.

This report begins right after I stepped out of my TAM flight from Lima.

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December 21, 2011


Just like in Lima a couple of hours earlier I had to re-clear security for an international connection. I do not hold much for that re-screening procedures especially when you are connecting on the same airline. There was only one lane and metal detector open for our flight so that whole thing took its time and after 20 minutes I finally found myself in the international concourse at GRU's Terminal, just to find this:

GRU FIDS. Madrid already boarding.


So, no time for a quick lounge visit this time. But this was not too bad as the Smiles VIP Lounge in the international terminal really is nothing to write home about. I would just have taken advantage of the internet access code to write a couple of e-mails, but due to the delay of our inbound flight some cell phone messages had to do the trick. After some minutes walking and a quick pit stop I reached the gate for our flight at the far end of the concourse. There was just enough time to take a couple of pictures of the plane and catch the registration before my boarding group was already called up. The boarding procedure was again very strictly enforced.

My 330.


Let's see what tricks you hold for me...



TAM Linhas Aereas
JJ 8064

GRU-MAD

20:55-10:05 (+1) (on time)
A330-200
PT-MVD



I was greeted with a smile at the door and found my way to the economy section of the plane. In LIM I asked the agents to switch me to an aisle seat in one of the two-seaters as the flight was going to be full and being a little taller I don't need to spend 10 hours in the window seat on a night flight.
The cabin was perfectly well cleaned but it was apparent from the IFE system and the seat controls (ash trays on a 330? come on...) that this plane was not the newest one around.


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Business class.



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Cabin overview.



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My couple of seats.



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Legroom is fine...



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...but the IFE box takes away a lot of space.


As you see I am sitting on the window seat here. My seat mate arrived very late so I already got the hopes up to be able to travel with a little bit more space.


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IFE system.



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A rather dated seat back.



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Cabin overview.


As soon as everyone has settled in the flight attendants started with their pre-departure service, meaning candy and a glass of water.


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TAM's pre-departure candy.


Also, amenity kits were distributed. Compared to the one I received 3 months prior on the TAM flight down from Milan they have apparently changed the packaging. Now it is environmentally friendly, but much less useful after the flight (I still use the old amenity kit packaging from my earlier flight). The contents were still the same thus keeping this kit one of the most generous economy offerings in the skies. It contains socks, toothpaste and brush, ear plugs and a comb. Some eyeshades would make this almost perfect.


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amenity kit packaging.



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amenity kit contents.



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Safety card.



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Ready, set, and...



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… we're off to Europe.


An hour into the flight service started with a drinks run and hot towel service. I decided to stick to the Xingu dark beer I tried on the LIM-GRU leg. Half an hour later the food carts were rolled out. They had three offers on the cart, two with meat (chicken and something else) and vegetarian pasta for which I opted. The pasta was a bit dry and together with the small salad the whole meal disappointed. I had eaten better on TAM before. But the dark beer helped to fill my stomach. The crew interacted with the passengers, suggested drink choices and let one feel quite welcome on the plane.


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The meal packaging is also bio-degradeable. Maybe a signal that Brazil is starting to „green“ a little bit.



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Tada!



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And here's the beer.



I watched an action movie on the screen which could definitely see some improvement, the quality of the movies was just a little bad. The size of their movie library was quite okay, and the Brazil section was also inspiring. The hardware, however, seems a little outdated. But its still better than the offering on the (old) 744's LH sends down there.

As soon as we reached the Atlantic coastline over the northeast of Brazil it was lights out for me.


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Air show.


I managed a couple of hours of sleep on that flight. During the night, water was available in the galley, no drink runs were made.


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Over the Canary Islands...



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...a new day dawned.


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About 90 minutes out of Madrid breakfast service started with a hot-towel service again. Omelette and a sandwich were on offer. I got the omelette which was okay for an egg on a plane but nothing to write home about either. The canned fruit was quite refreshing in the sense that it was still a cold as ice when I got the tray.


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Oh, and to please a couple of people's obsession with lavatories: At the beginning of the flight they were clean and at the end they were not that clean anymore. No photos, sorry.


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closing in..



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Landing in MAD. Four degrees. Brrrr.



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Business class.


We got a remote stand at Terminal 1 on the far end on the tarmac, so a little airport journey was in order (to the dismay of several fellow passengers)


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After that: „No photo!“ What a nice welcome to Spain... at least the sun was out.
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Pullmantur waiting for its next assignment (soccer fans, Hajj, someone going tech?)



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The guys from the east.


Due to my strategic position at one of the exits of the bus I was first through immigration which is of course worth nothing when you have to wait for your luggage. 15 minutes after I arrived at the belt it started to turn, 5 minutes later the first suitcases showed up but 20 minutes later my suitcase was still not in sight. Thankfully there was a TAM ground service employee (or of their ground handlers) among the crowd assisting passengers. I approached her to ask if my suitcase made the GRU connection which thankfully she was able to confirm with her office. About 10 minutes later my suitcase showed up and I started the trek over to the LH counters in Terminal 2.

MAD FIDS.


There I was greeted with a rather weird scene which was absolutely new to me: a long queue on a LH counter for an intra-Europe flight! It turns out those three counters they had were apparently a little to few to handle the amounts of people all travelling with checked luggage a couple of days before Christmas. Also – and this is where usually quite organized Lufthansa was quite a letdown: no dedicated OLCI drop-off line/counter. The Swiss counters next door did not take any LH passengers, so this all was quite a bit of a letdown. As the LH group has a bit of a presence here in MAD I had expected a better integration of the different brands, but I was mistaken.

After half an hour of waiting I was attended by a smiling male agent who switched to German after seeing my Passport. A nice touch which was very much appreciated after this time abroad. It is always nice to fly your home carrier on the last leg of a longer transcontinental journey.

MAD's older Terminal is really nothing to write home about (at least after T4 was opened) and in the end I found it not too bad that I did not have to spend too much time there. After I had reached my gate boarding was already being called which left me just enough time to conduct my belated morning routine in a bathroom (I am talking about brushing my teeth here) and catching a quick glance of my chariot taking me home to Bavaria again. And quite an interesting vessel it was: D-AIPA, „Buxtehude“, is Lufthansa's first A320. So a very nice catch on the end of this succesful itinerary.

The last one for the day.


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User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9881 times:


Lufthansa
LH 1891

MAD-MUC

12:20-14:55 (on time)
A320
D-AIPA “Buxtehude”




Boarding was called on time, and I was greeted by an F/A with a thick Bavarian accent. His colleague offered me Munich's big national paper which I gladly take with me. I am definitely homebound. The plane started to fill up completely – which was to be expected. The captain offered some flight details and the weather forecast for Munich (snowy, wet, windy and cold). Our lengthy trek to MAD's north/south-aligned runways commenced on time.

TAP... maybe in the next report.


Some of you may now cry in anger.


This one was still flying at the time.



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Are they being missed?


After our long treck over the tarmac the captain was so nice to warn the passengers that the plane was about to take off. Wir starten!

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A nice morning over central Spain.


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Once in the air it was the standard LH routine. A beverage run followed by the distribution of a hot meal which now seems to be standard on daytime inbound flights over two hours.

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The chicken breast with rice was a tad try – no surprice considering the lack of any sauce to go with. Probably not the best choice for a re-heated dish. Extra water and dessert wafers were appreciated.

After that I unsuccessfully tried to get some shut-eye (a „liberated“ TAM pillow was supposed to do the trick on LH's rock-hard NEK-seats). In this in-between-sleep-and-awake/in-between-continents state I decided to settle for some South Park episodes I found on my laptop. After the second episode I noticed a small kid behind me had been peeking through the seats on the cartoon on my screens. Oh well, she can be glad she didn't hear the sounds...


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The captain was right...


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A nice welcome by EK's A380.


E-Jet Armada


A frequent target of A.netters: SQ's SIN-MUC-MAN service.


A Metroliner back there, probably doing the SCO-MUC flights (now it's a Saab 340)


Next to sistership Lima Bravo.


It follows: a long S-Bahn ride, a shorter bus ride, some metres towing my luggage through the snow, a cup of tea and a warm bed.

TAM has shown to be a very good airline again. Although the crew was not as social as on the LIM-GRU sector (understandable on a night flight) the service concept convinced: hot towel services, okay food, pre-departure water runs, a large amenity kit – one can hardly ask for more as an Economy passenger today. Water runs during the night would have been appreciated as well as a light bar snack during the first drink run or after dinner. English language skills were better than on my earlier TAM long haul in October, but could still be improved. The IFE-system also seems a little out-dated but it is fine for a night flight when you watch a movie while trying to doze off. Let's see which way they will go after the merger. Brazil has a great airline there, it would be sad to see some bad changes. TAM ain't magic, but they ain't bad either.

Lufthansa delivered its convincing product again and showed why it is one of the better ones plowing the skies in Europe. The check-in situation in MAD was certainly due to the holiday season and then the whole affair is okay, after all VFR travelers also bring a little more time with them.


Thank you for reading!

Feedback is greatly appreciated.



Earlier Tripreports

Bolivian Top Gun? Transporte Aéreo Militar (B462) (by volvair Mar 18 2012 in Trip Reports)

Andes, Jungles, Metroliners: Prop-Hops In Bolivia (by volvair Dec 10 2011 in Trip Reports)

Democracy Aloft? Boliviana De Aviación 733/CBB-LPB (by volvair Nov 19 2011 in Trip Reports)

Of Buckets & 3-Holed Workhorses:5L 732, 722 To LPB (by volvair Nov 8 2011 in Trip Reports)

The Withering Ultra-Longhauler: TAM A345/MXP-GRU (by volvair Oct 22 2011 in Trip Reports)

A Failed Escape From The Drunkards: EN/Y/MUC-MXP (by volvair Oct 13 2011 in Trip Reports)

Andes Hopping On Taca Perú And TAM: LPB-LIM-GRU (by volvair Apr 6 2012 in Trip Reports)


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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9524 times:
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Good report! Looks like you had a nice flight with TAM. I've heard some good things about this airline.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The pasta was a bit dry and together with the small salad the whole meal disappointed. I had eaten better on TAM before.

Food looks pretty miserable. What is the deal with that salad?! Come on, Tam!

Thanks for sharing!

Best,

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

Hi volvair


Great return report, thanks for sharing it with us.
hmm... TAM's Y class seating looks quite dated IMO, expected a bit more. Otherwise a great product.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9128 times:

Very nice to see some comments here already.

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Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Over the Canary Islands...

I uploaded the wrong picture here, my apologies.

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Hi Matthew, thanks for commenting!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 2):
Food looks pretty miserable. What is the deal with that salad?! Come on, Tam!

Yes indeed, this was one of the poorer meals I've got on TAM and the new white styrofoam packaging doesn't help either. Food tastes better if it looks better.


Marc, thanks for writing a few lines,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 3):
TAM's Y class seating looks quite dated IMO, expected a bit more

Newer seats don't necessarily mean more comfort. Seats and pitch were alright. IFE was a tad dated but otherwise this was fine. I don't believe TAM's newer 777s with their 3-4-3 config are more comfortable. The cabin showed its age but everything around my seat was working and everything was very well cleaned.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8970 times:

Hi volvair!

Thanks for the last installment in your South America series!

It seems you had a nice flight on TAM; very nice amenity kit and okay meal. Too bad with no drink runs during the night; that's very important to me. Flight attendants on TAM are usually very attractive so I'm surprised you didn't mention this but it was a night flight.....

Meal on LH looks very good for such a short flight.

Looking forward to your next report whenever that may be.

The777Man



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8800 times:

Nice report, thanks for sharing!
Interesting to read about TAM long-haul, we don't see those reports all that often.


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8726 times:
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Hello volvair,

Nice to have you back (with a vengeance). Although this report is way over date, you seem to have remembered quite some things ot it. It must've been a good ride for sure. Indeed TAM does look pretty decent, not outstanding, not bad either, average or mediocre is the most appropriate term here. Still I miss your intra-Bolivian flying adventures more (probably you do too  )

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
I am sorry if this report lacks some of the details you might expect.

Don't, it's detailed and descriptive to excellence  

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
and also did some domestic flying.

Oh yes, I remember quite well!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Let's see what tricks you hold for me...

I quite like the large descriptive titles there one the fuselage, not the words themselves but the fact that they are there.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Cabin overview.

Oh my, is this 'la fiesta Brasiliana'?

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The pasta was a bit dry and together with the small salad the whole meal disappointed.

That's not good...

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The crew interacted with the passengers, suggested drink choices and let one feel quite welcome on the plane.

But this is!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The canned fruit was quite refreshing in the sense that it was still a cold as ice when I got the tray.

Was it really canned or freshly cut?

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
No photos, sorry.

Booohhhh!!!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
As the LH group has a bit of a presence here in MAD I had expected a better integration of the different brands, but I was mistaken.

Perhaps not only the LH group is here to blame. AENA airports are also quite known for having a stubborn mind on their operations.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
It is always nice to fly your home carrier on the last leg of a longer transcontinental journey.

Definitely!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
A nice morning over central Spain.

The views over these deserted Central Spanish countrysides are always nice.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
E-Jet Armada

Ha ha, indeed. Nice shot!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
TAM ain't magic

So it's just TAM The Red Carpet then  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8479 times:
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Hi there Volvair,

Great report to a nice conclusion of your south america trip. I enjoyed every TR very much, thanks for sharing!
TAMs product looks quite nice, except for the food that doesn't look good at all!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
amenity kit

A very generous amenity kit indeed, always a nice touch

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Tada!

That doesnt look good at all, what is up with that salad?

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
A beverage run followed by the distribution of a hot meal

Always nice to get a hot meal on an intra-europe flight!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1067 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8442 times:

TAM does not impress me. The food looks nearly as bad as what you get on a US airline; measly.

I flew VARIG to Rio from NYC in 1978 and I still remember the chicken kiev they served in those days.


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8277 times:

Hi Volvair!

Very nice report and nice pictures again. Glad to see that TAM again didn't disappoint you. As you said, it will be interesting to see what happens with the merger. It seems like it's pretty much a done deal that they will leave Star Alliance, which is kind of sad.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Are they being missed?

I'm not sure, but I'm glad I flew them once. And with Vueling replacing them on the ARN-BCN route, I do at least miss the opportunity to earn Star Alliance miles on the route (I do think SK has a few weekly departures nowadays too but that's hardly something exciting!).

Quoting volvair (Reply 1):
I decided to settle for some South Park episodes I found on my laptop. After the second episode I noticed a small kid behind me had been peeking through the seats on the cartoon on my screens. Oh well, she can be glad she didn't hear the sounds...

Hah!  

Martin


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7990 times:

Nice to see this report out at last! TAM looks ok - nothing special, nothing to complain about

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The meal packaging is also bio-degradeable. Maybe a signal that Brazil is starting to „green“ a little bit.

Interesting, never seen that before on a plane...good for TAM!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Omelette and a sandwich were on offer. I got the omelette which was okay for an egg on a plane but nothing to write home about either.

That looks rather bland...about on par with IB Biz!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
And quite an interesting vessel it was: D-AIPA, „Buxtehude“, is Lufthansa's first A320. So a very nice catch on the end of this succesful itinerary.

I flew Buxtehude in December LHR-MUC, nice and empty flight!



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7755 times:

Servus volvair,

what a nice surprise to find this great report here! Well done, I really enjoyed the last part of your outstanding series. TAM's Y Class product looks fine in general, wouldn't mind to try that carrier.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):

This trip took place a couple of months back in December 2011. I am sorry if this report lacks some of the details you might expect.

No worries!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
In LIM I asked the agents to switch me to an aisle seat in one of the two-seaters as the flight was going to be full and being a little taller I don't need to spend 10 hours in the window seat on a night flight.

Exactly my opinion. I try to avoid window seats on long night flights.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The cabin was perfectly well cleaned but it was apparent from the IFE system and the seat controls (ash trays on a 330? come on...) that this plane was not the newest one around.

Well, PT-MVD is a "veteran" from 1999 and has also been operated by EY for a while.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
...but the IFE box takes away a lot of space.

That's still an acceptable size IMO.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
After that: „No photo!“ What a nice welcome to Spain...

  

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):

There I was greeted with a rather weird scene which was absolutely new to me: a long queue on a LH counter for an intra-Europe flight! It turns out those three counters they had were apparently a little to few to handle the amounts of people all travelling with checked luggage a couple of days before Christmas. Also – and this is where usually quite organized Lufthansa was quite a letdown: no dedicated OLCI drop-off line/counter. The Swiss counters next door did not take any LH passengers, so this all was quite a bit of a letdown. As the LH group has a bit of a presence here in MAD I had expected a better integration of the different brands, but I was mistaken.

Very disappointing!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
D-AIPA, „Buxtehude“, is Lufthansa's first A320. So a very nice catch on the end of this succesful itinerary.

Nice catch indeed. LH still keeps operating these old A320s - in contrast to AF and others.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):

The chicken breast with rice was a tad try – no surprice considering the lack of any sauce to go with. Probably not the best choice for a re-heated dish. Extra water and dessert wafers were appreciated.

That's too bad - it looks quite good.


PH



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User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

Hello guys, very nice to see more comments here, much appreciated!


Lars,

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Flight attendants on TAM are usually very attractive so I'm surprised you didn't mention this but it was a night flight

All-male crew on my aisle, so not my cup of tea.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):

Meal on LH looks very good for such a short flight.

Indeed, hot meals on intra-Europe flights have become an endangered species.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 6):
Nice report, thanks for sharing!

Thanks! Glad you liked it.



Nils, entertaining reply as always,

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
Still I miss your intra-Bolivian flying adventures more (probably you do too )

Maybe   , Transporte Aereo Militar have some 732s now, should go there again  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
I quite like the large descriptive titles there one the fuselage, not the words themselves but the fact that they are there.

I'm not the biggest fan of in-your-face slogans (especially if I can't take them seriously, nothing red was to be seen on my first TAM flight). I like my liveries understated.


Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
I enjoyed every TR very much, thanks for sharing!

thanks for writing a few lines, glad you liked the series.


Martin,

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
It seems like it's pretty much a done deal that they will leave Star Alliance, which is kind of sad.

As the merger might provide more Europe's cities with more direct S/A (MUC maybe) I'm all for it.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
And with Vueling replacing them on the ARN-BCN route

Now that is a flight I would not want to take.


Gabriel,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
.about on par with IB Biz

Oh, is it that bad?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
I flew Buxtehude in December LHR-MUC,

In December as well, very nice coincidence.



Servus PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
TAM's Y Class product looks fine in general, wouldn't mind to try that carrier.

Perfectly fine to fly them on intercontinental flights or wide-body medium hauls (SCL, GRU-GIG), short/medium-haul on cramped A320s not so much.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
That's still an acceptable size IMO.

It seems smaller than the one on your QR flight - so yes indeed considering the age of the IFE system.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7435 times:

Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
All-male crew on my aisle, so not my cup of tea.

The female ones on my 77W flight on JJ two years ago, all looked like models! Absolutly stunning! Never seen so many so beautiful as flight attendants before.

The777Man



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7153 times:

Hi Volver,

AsI said I thought I'd never see this report but you managed to surprise me! Great stuff, good to close the circle even though I have to admit I had already forgotten most of your South American journey.

Looks like another decent flight with TAM, nothing exceptional but nothing outright bad either. The food doesn't look that good, but if the taste was better then no problems.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
As the ticket ended in Madrid, I booked a simple connection with Lufthansa to get me back to Munich.

Does LH offer decently priced one ways ex-Spain or did you have to play funny games (throw away ticketing, open jaw etc.) to avoid a full Y fare?

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Cabin overview.

Those seats look quite nice actually. I like the tiger stripes on the middle block and the fact that the middle and the side seats are different.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
The meal packaging is also bio-degradeable. Maybe a signal that Brazil is starting to „green“ a little bit.

Hey, that's great news! Unfortunately airport handling companies aren't exactly very good at recycling so these will just end up in the same bag as all rest of the trash from your flight and in some Spanish landfill, so the biodegradability is actually bad here, since it will end up generating methane under those circumstances.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Tada

Not impressed. But if the pasta is done right and has some taste this could be great comfort food.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Omelette and a sandwich were on offer. I got the omelette which was okay for an egg on a plane but nothing to write home about either.

Doesn't look too good. There's too little of it. But at least this is far more generous than what is the norm on flights from the US these days.

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Landing in MAD. Four degrees. Brrrr.

Really? I never thought it could get that cold in there!

Quoting volvair (Thread starter):
Once in the air it was the standard LH routine. A beverage run followed by the distribution of a hot meal which now seems to be standard on daytime inbound flights over two hours.

Hey, that meal looks very nice. I wonder if the HEL flights still have these - it's been years and years since I've flown anything but the early bird 6.30 FRA departure ex-HEL (yawn) so no idea really. The morning flights do offer a hot breakfast ciabatta or sandwich type of thing though. Luckily I'm on the evening flight to FRA in a few weeks, departing just after seven in the evening so I'll be able to check it out.


User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7051 times:

FF, thanks for your reply,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 15):
Does LH offer decently priced one ways ex-Spain or did you have to play funny games (throw away ticketing, open jaw etc.) to avoid a full Y fare?

open-jaw, of course (with my Air Dolomiti MUC-MXP), linked those tickets with a "guaranteed connection" insurance for 5€ each. At this time no cheap oneways were offered by LH ex-MUC at all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 15):
Unfortunately airport handling companies aren't exactly very good at recycling so these will just end up in the same bag as all rest of the trash from your flight and in some Spanish landfill, so the biodegradability is actually bad here, since it will end up generating methane under those circumstances.

Doesn't this garbage need to get burned right away if it is "imported" from outside EU? Guess I have read that somewhere sometime

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 15):
I wonder if the HEL flights still have these - it's been years and years since I've flown anything but the early bird 6.30 FRA departure ex-HEL (yawn) so no idea really. The morning flights do offer a hot breakfast ciabatta or sandwich type of thing though.

On a VNO-FRA flight around noon I got a heated quiche with bacon bits, which was not really that big but it was still nice to have something warm for lunch. I expected the MAD-MUC flight to fall in the same "heated bakery stuff category" (wraps...) but this meal was definitely a nice surprise. A little thumbs-down for LH not offering a vegetarian alternative (or veg only).


User currently offlineTR763 From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6826 times:

Hey Volvair, great trip report!

I flew the exact same plane you've flown on a MCO-GRU sector in May, which was PT-MVD.
Indeed, the IFE urgently needs to be replaced on this earlier A330s of TAM (PT-MVA-E). It's hit or miss, if you have luck, you'll get one of the new frames that have much better interiors.
I found TAM service pretty decent, but nothing exceptional, just like the impression you had.

The NEK seats on Lufthansa looks really uncomfortable. But even though you wrote that the chicken was dry, it seems to be a good service for such a short flight.

I've been reading all of your trip reports and have to congratulate you for sharing the amazing experience you had.
Although I love to read trip reports of my country's national carrier (TAM), specially if written by a non-Brazilian, nothing beats the Aerosur report you've made! Really, a piece of gold!

Best regards!



Transbrasil
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
Perfectly fine to fly them on intercontinental flights or wide-body medium hauls (SCL, GRU-GIG), short/medium-haul on cramped A320s not so much.

Well, I'd love to try the 77W - but an A330 would be fine, too.

Quoting TR763 (Reply 17):
The NEK seats on Lufthansa looks really uncomfortable.

But they aren't!


PH



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