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To Canada? On Air Canada If Course!  
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
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To Canada? on Air Canada if course!

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NOTE: Their will be a couple of names of Flight Attendants mentioned in this report, this is with full permission (and on request) of the F/A’s in question

Background:
January 2012, I was opting for a job with the Belgian railways but my French level needed to be opped quite a bit. If course they where many domestic courses or in France? But Canada has been a place high on my to visit list. So why not combine the 2. I looked for several different options in February and I could choose out of the following options..:

1. Air France: Brussels-Paris-Montreal/Toronto-Paris-Brussels A380-800/A340-300 and TGV train.
While the A380 is a new type on my list, I’m not fond of Air France at all. As matter in fact. I had some previous experiences in the past where I had mediocre to bad flights with them. So A No-ruler, Actually I wrote a report about them in 2010 from Boston to Paris CDG
A Short Hop On A Big Bird! (by MSS658 Feb 27 2011 in Trip Reports)


2. Jet Airways: Brussels-Toronto-Brussels A330-200.
This option somehow impressed me a bit, Jet Airways is a decent carrier and this was the only option leaving from Brussels Airport. However after a good search I found that Canadian domestic options where pretty steep. In addition I just deboarded an A330-200 a e few weeks prior on US Airways from Charlotte. You can read these here.
US Airways A332s, A Step Forward In The Fleet? (by MSS658 Apr 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)


3. Air Canada: Paris-Toronto-Montreal Boeing 767-300 on the longhaul.

I would like to go a little bit more in detail on this one here. Back in 2010 I was in Canada for 18 hours when I was trying to log the KLM MD11. Too get back to Florida I had the opportunity to fly on Air Canada from Montreal to Ft Lauderdale via Toronto. I was very impressed by the service. In addition to this the Montreal-Toronto leg got upgraded to a long haul Boeing 767-300 so I had the chance to try out their long haul hardware product. After this trip I was very much willing to try Air Canada on a real-long haul flight. You can read these past reports here
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)

I could have flown directly to Montreal on the Boeing 777-300ER, but the option with a change in Toronto was 50 Euros cheaper. The long haul sector was due to be operated by a Boeing 767-300ER. Up to know my most flown on aircraft type, however the Boeing 767 belongs to my favorite type as well and it was since 2009 that I flew the -300 version long haul I did not mind at all flying it again. The Toronto to Montreal sector would be operated by the A319.

Pre-departure:
A few weeks passed quickly and we where soon in February enduring some winter storms and temperatures down to -12 C. Off course it would get even cooler in Quebec so it was a nice preparation. On Air Canada’s website I noticed flight AC0880 is known for massive delayed arrivals so I was a bit worried about my connection, well not so worried. At least I had options enough to get to Montreal in case I would misconnect. On Air Canada you are able to check in 24 hours prior to your last flight in the itinerary online. At 22:15 sharp I got my invitation. I selected seat 28K on my Paris-Toronto leg and 24A on my Toronto-Montreal leg.
The next morning I woke up at 5:00 after a quick shower I logged on and checked the status of flight AC0880. Tonights inbound was running on time with an estimated arrival time of 9:45. Next step was to check flightradar to see which plane would have the honers. Operating Air Canada 880 above Nova Scotia was C-FCAB, an ex-Canadian Boeing 767-300ER. C-FCAB is the oldest 767 in the Air Canada fleet and the 18th Boeing 767-300 ever made.
At 5:55 my dad dropped gave me a ride to the Lille-Flandres station where I was able to catch my TGV ride. By 6.30 we where in Lille and I said goodbye.
Let me present you: Lille by frozen night



Even with the winter conditions my TGV to Paris Charles de Gaulle and Marseille will be departing on time.



A quick picture of the double decker TGV ensuring a safe and comfortable ride.



At 6.56 the doors closed and we set sail for Paris. Unlike my TGV trip in december, this TGV had the older and more comfortable seats on the upper deck.



The legroom was ok as well.



The ride itself was uneventful, enjoying some home made breakfast and just relaxing while the sun started to rise above Northern France.



At 8.22 we arrived safe and sound at the Paris Charles de Gaulle airport completing my first part of the journey.

Leaving Paris Roissy Charles De Gaulle airport
After arriving from the TGV I went to Air Canada’s check in. Unlike the other Star Alliance carriers who use terminal 1 at Paris CDG Air Canada uses terminal 2A. Since Air Canada 881 is departing from terminal 2A. We can find it on the big FIDS near the train station.



I opted to walk via terminal 2C. Terminal 2C used to be used for all the long haul flights of Air France. Nowadays only Emirates, Air Mauritius, Air Seychelles use this terminal. Some Air France flights operating to exotic destinations operate from here as well like this Boeing 777-200 registered F-GSPX for example.



Terminal 2A used to be used for the Air France exotic mix of destinations. Nowadays it is still useful as a oneworld hub with some exceptions. For example Air Canada, Ethiad, Air Tahiti Nui,...
A quick peek to the FIDS Air Canada 0881 to Toronto Pearson is running on time.



I was met in a small, but rather classy check in-hall. Air Canada uses row 6 for their flights to Montreal and Toronto. I find the red to be somewhat classy.



I was welcomed by a friendly check-in agent, she checked me all the way thru to Montreal. She informed me as well that the flight would not be full at all. That’s the way I like it  . After a equally smooth security passage I was airside at a little bit past 9. The terminal was pretty calm giving the high volume of flights leaving at the moment. Here is N349AN bound for Miami as AA63.



Going to the next wing while having a view of the Arrivals hall, this will be the place to be in 3 weeks from now.



When entering the second half of the terminal I noticed a red maple leaf in the distance. When nearing gate A41 I noticed it belonged to an Air Canada Boeing 777-300ER registered C-FTIW whom just arrived as AC870 from Montreal and will depart back around 13:30 as Air Canada 0871



A bit forward towards the famous rotunda I spotted an Etihad Airbus A340-600 being prepared for her trip back to Abu Dhabi as EY32.



In the far distance all the Singapore Airlines, US Airways, United and Kuwait Airways activity could be seen.



And terminal 1 was well light up as usual.



Some Airlinair ATR’s parked near terminal 2A.



At 9:45 another Air Canada aircraft taxied on to the ramp of terminal 2A. This time it was my Boeing 767-300 registered C-FCAB arriving from Toronto YYZ on time at 9:45



B-HKE, one of the two daily Boeing 747’s from Cathay was parked at terminal 2A as well. She will be soon underway as CX272 to Hong Kong via Amsterdam. Too bad they do not offer fifth freedom routes on this route.



For the remainder of the time I bought me another croissant, walked a bit around. Looking a bit in the Virgin megastore (well I would not call it to much mega), watched the crew board, looking at some traffic pass by. and the normal way of business before boarding a long haul flight. Here is another picture of the classy Terminal 2A.



Boarding started at gate A47 for Executivefirst passengers at 10:45, followed by the other passengers a few minutes later. After being asked a few more security questions I was allowed to board Air Canada 881 at 10:55 Paris time, 4:55 Toronto time.

3. Air Canada flight AC 0881 From Paris Charles De Gaulle to Toronto Pearson
Sunday, 5 February 2012
Paris Charles De Gaulle (CDG/LFPG) – Toronto Pearson (YYZ/CYYZ)
Air Canada 0881 (Continental Airlines 8155, United Airlines 8155, Lufthansa 5510)
Boeing 767-375ER C-FCAB (LN: 213). Economy Class 28K
Built and delivered to Canadian Airlines on 15 April 1988, later delivered to Air Canada on 29 March 2001
11.30-11.30 (Terminal 2A, Gate A45; wheels up on runway 9L at 11.58)
13.55-14.00 (Terminal 1, Gate E70; wheels down on runway 24R at 13.55)
Announced flying time: 7hrs49mns
Cruising Altitude: FL 360
Load factor: 50% in Y
Routing: CDG-ATREX-UT225-VESAN-UL613-DET-UN601-LESTA-UP6-RODOL-UM65-TENSO-UL603-REML-UP6-NELBO-UN551-NIBOG-RLKIL-5720W-5830W-5840W-5650W-SCROD-VALIE-N248L-YBL-UBS-YCO-SIML3
Personal statistics
158th registered flight.
3rd flight in 2012
3rd flight on Air Canada
43rd flight on the Boeing 767 series
36th flight on the Boeing 767-300
1st flight on C-FCAB

Recommended song for this long haul flight: Where them girls at - David Guetta, Nickj Manaj and Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y5P5uY1LoA

Videos related to AC 0881 from Paris Charles De Gaulle to Toronto Pearson.
Saftey video (taken on AC 411 Montreal-Toronto YYZ in Jul 2010):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53xaknvGRjc

Takeoff in Paris Charles De Gaulle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSWXEFMHp3Y

Climbout in Paris Charles De Gaulle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjKoQPJ6_bk

Inflight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTse9Jlnizg

Approach in Toronto Pearson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a21B9sNAi_0

Landing in Toronto Pearson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ONnmQvI1hc

I was greeted by the lead flight attendant and went towards the second aisle. The mood lightning in the executive cabin was turned on giving it a fresh appearance. The seating was herringbone configuration, not my personal taste. I would not pay 2000 EUR plus for having no window. When heading into the Economy cabin the mood lighting was turned off. I was greeted by another senior F/A. Todays crew was your typical north American long-haul crew. Each female crew member was in her upper 40s. When reaching seat 28K the typical welcome on board announcements where being made.



Soon I started the normal routine, went to give the chocolate box to the back galley where the flight Attendants Helen and Heather where in charge, they where very thankfull for the gift and promised to take good care of me. After returning to my seat it was time to make another A.net ritual. Legroom looks very good out.



Boarding was complete soon due to the very light load. Another F/A was passing trough the cabin with newspapers left from ExecutiveFirst. I asked if they where any french newspapers, after a search she said they where no left and walked away. She would be the only F/A with not the best mood. However a few moments later the Inflight Manager came to me offering a French and Quebecian newspaper. Nice touch. In the meanwhile the saftey video started, a short preview of the herringbone Business class.



11:30 in Paris Charles De Gaulle, 5:30 in Toronto: some movement was felt and the pushback commenced. Parked next to us was a Royal Jordanian A320 registered 9Y-AYR bound for Amman as RJ118.



Passing C-FTIW again, wonder who is the first one to get to Montreal. I should be there 2 hours after the direct Air Canada 871.



XL Airways France Airbus A330-200 F-GSEU



As most of my CDG flights this flight left from runway 9/27 meaning a taxi all the way back to Lille. On the other side, some interesting stuff could be seen. Like this Lufthy A320 D-AIRM.



Must have a concorde in a CDG-report.


While taxing Helen walked up to me and offered me the 3 center seats of row 34 However I really found it a nice gesture I had to refuse it as an A.netter. When passing terminal 1 I could see N279AY awaiting it’s departure to Philadelphia as US 755. I flew her just a month prior between Charlotte and Paris CDG. Here is my full report of my ride on her.
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
American Airlines 49 bound for Dallas Ft Worth taking of on runway 9L. Today N398AA has the honers of doing that flight.


At 11:58 or 5:58 in Ontario C-FCAB speeds down runway 9L towards Toronto, just before us there is an Azerbidjan Airlines A320


Soon we where above the French white countryside but not for long as we where met by the clouds after a mere few minutes. Hmmm... I didn’t knew that we will be flying eastbound for the majority of the flight to Toronto  


Sounds a bit more like it.



Leaving Mainland Europe with an overcast sky, unfortunately it was like this for a while.


As from the moment I boarded the flight a relaxed tone was set for the flight, this could only be confirmed once in the air. The mood lighting in the Economy cabin was set to a nice light blue tone, the lights however kept changing in the Executive cabin.
13:00 in France, 7:00 in Toronto. 1 hour airborne the meal trolleys where in the aisle, the choices today where chicken or salmon. As I’m not a seafood eater at all, I went for the former. While the portion was a bit on the small side the overall quality and presentation compensated for it. Very delicious indeed and free wine.



After the meal service was cleared the duty free trolley came, I ordered me some godiva chocolates and I was offered some more wine while enjoying Air Canada’s fine service. The XMed seating actually is very comfortable, well padded, headrests and no bother of the IFE box underneath.



8:30 in Toronto and 14:30 in Western Europe. We are about 2,5 hours in the air and still have 5,5 hours to go before our arrival. In the meanwhile all the meal trays are cleared and it’s time to play a bit with of the IFE. Air Canada has installed it’s Enroute AVOD system on it’s entire fleet. The system is offering multipe choices and is user friendly as well.
Main menu:



The inflight entertainment has about 50 movie and sitcom options, 70 CDs where one could choose , 12 radio channels and numerous games. Once you selected a category on the main menu you had multiple sub-categories as well.



However some programs displayed this screen...



The map screen had different options however  .



overall time zone!



General information (despite the aircraft pointed in the wrong direction)



You can even look up how far you are from any city in the world!



If you want to listen to music instead you can choose from different radio channels or listen to CD albums.



At this point I enjoyed some sitcoms and the mood lightning which was still turned on a nice and soft blue, a quick view of the cabin midflight. During this period there where a lot of beverage runs as well, I did not count how many times. But quite a few times more than any competitor on the route.



Time flies by when you are having fun. Without even realising we where already 4hours into the 8 hour flight between Paris and Toronto. While it is 10:00 up in Toronto it’s already 16:00 back in France the carts where in the aisle with a snack service. A small bag of pretzels and a drink where given out. I’ve yet had this on any North American carrier on a flight of this length (only on Delta and US Airways flights to Atlanta/Charlotte). Great touch of Air Canada.



After my snack was finished I went to the galley to have long and great conversation with Helen and Heather. Both Air Canada veterans. It was a very nice conversation about all sorts of aviation and non-aviation subjects. If both of you are reading the report, thanks for waiting so long and having the patience....  .
Hard to see this plane is from the 1980’s heh?



However, once in the galley it was visible that this plane has been along for a few years.



After a lenghty and wonderfull conversation I returned to my seat. In the meanwhile we where already over Nova Scotia.



18:00 in Paris, 12:00 in Toronto. 6 hours have past and still 2 more on the clock the carts where seen in the aisle again. This time with the pre-arrival snack. As many airlines do nowadays Air Canada serves Monty’s warm wraps on it’s flights. One could choose between chicken or mushroom filling. I went for the former. Taste was quite good.



Nearing the end of our journey.



By now we where still 1hour and 15 minutes away from Toronto and I started to make my final stretch and thanked Helen and Heather for everything. Another cabin view after 6hours and 45minutes enroute from Paris.



The seat design on all Air Canada’s widebodies, a very comfortable way to a long-haul journey.



my playlist for the majority of the flight.



Nothing to see again above Ontario and Quebec...



13:10 in Toronto, 19:10 in Paris the throttles are pulled back and C-FCAB started her decent into the Toronto area. As you can see Toronto is not that far anymore.



After the usual amount of turns we finally broke trough the clouds at around 15.000 feet. Some views of our Approach into Toronto. Flaps being deployed



Any Idea which airport this is?



Nearing the end of a wonderfull flight.



Approaching runway 24R


Cabin view just before touchdown, as you may see the inflight entertainment remained on.



Landing gear down!



Over highway 401 just moments before touchdown



13:55 in Toronto, 19:55 in Paris. C-FCAB touches down and slows down on Toronto Pearson’s runway 24R after a 8 hour flight from Paris terminating Air Canada 881. One thing I missed about the Boeing 767-300 was the wonder full noise when the flaps are retracting. One of my favorite aircraft noise. Expressjet is present as well, N11106 arrving from Newark as CO 4702.



After vacating the runway we went to the International part of terminal 1 where we came to a complete stop at gate E70 at 14:00 right beside C-FIVM bound soon for Beijing as AC031.



Given the light load it did not took long at all before everybody was offboard. Here is a pic of the Economy cabin, notice the different lighting color in Executive.



A quick entry to the front office was granted as well.



F/O’s control panel.



before deboarding a quick peek in Executive Class



I thanked the crew for everything and deboarded at 14:10 Toronto time, 20:10 in Paris.

Transferring in Toronto-Pearson International
Being the last one of the aircraft the arrivals corridor was pretty much to be deserted as we arrived in between 2 arrival banks. The only other arrival was Austrian Airlines 71 from Vienna who arrived a few minutes after us. First of all you had a long walk towards the immigration counters. You could walk, use the moving belt or use the express moving belt. I chose for the latter to speed up my time.



Next stop was the FIDS to see how my connection to Montreal is doing. Oops! It seems like AC418 is running a bit late. Only 15 minutes thankfully.



At this point you can go to various directions. Connecting passengers to destinations outside the USA and Canada can return immediatly back towards the International gate area. Passengers to the USA can clear US Immigration and Customs in Toronto before heading to the US. As I’m heading on to Montreal I will be clearing Canadian costums. There where just a few regional jets landing from the US so the line wasn’t that long at all. Soon I got greeted by a not so friendly agent who stamped my passport. Not too much difference with the US here. Arrivals board with some exotic and less exotic destinations.



Belt 5 for Air Canada 881 today.



Soon I was able to recheck my luggage and exited the terminal just before the Austrian Airlines crew. Next step is back to the departures hall and clear security to enter the domestic terminal again. But not before snapping this picture. A little hint for my next trip report.



Soon I cleared security, I’m always amazed how friendly security staff are in Canada if you compare them to the USA. However I do not find it so efficient that you have to hand your boarding pass twice in the line. Soon I was in the domestic side of terminal 1 and it was 14:55, just about an hour prior to departure of AC418 to Montreal. Soon when walking trough the terminal I noticed a familiar bird. C-FCAB was being towed to gate D37, she will be starting her next mission at 16:00 as AC161 to Vancouver.



The majority of traffic in this side of terminal 1 is dedicated to Air Canada’s Embrear and Airbus A320 fleet heading towards various spots in Canada. Like this A319 registred C-GARO.



Toronto’s terminal 1 has a nice wide and open feel with many concession stands, quite nice for a North American airport.



C-FCAB is not the only widebody in the domestic terminal. Sister ship C-FMWP is present as well, She will be leaving at 17:00 as AC0832 to Montreal and on to Brussels. There is another 763 flight at 18:00 to Montreal and Geneva as well (Today C-FMXC was operating AC0830). If I really wanted to catch another widebody I could have waited for one of those flights. But 3 times the 767-300 in one trip would be a bit to much. So I guess the earlier A319 would do. However Air Canada does swap equipment regulary on AC418. This praticular flight has seen everything from the Boeing 777-300ER to the Embrear 175.



Clearly who’s the boss here! Among the spotted registrations I could see C-FTJP. The A320 who brought me from Toronto to Ft Lauderdale back in july 2010.
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)


At 15:40 our aircraft arrived, no equipment change today. C-GITP an A319 was dispatched for AC418 this afternoon. Next door was C-GHKR, an A330-300 which just arrived from Vancouver as AC142.



I see something more exotic between all the Air Canada widebodies. Indeed, a LOT Boeing 767-300 (SP-LPB) who just arrived from Warshaw as LO41.



Boarding was called at 15:55 and by 16:00 I was onboard of the next step in my Canadian adventure.

4. Air Canada/Rapidair flight 0418 from Toronto Pearson to Montreal
Sunday, February 5 2012
Toronto YYZ (YYZ/CYYZ)- Montreal (YUL/YTZ)
Air Canada/Rapidair 0418 (Austrian Airlines 8253, United Airlines 8222)
Airbus A319-112 C-GITP (MSN 1562). Economy 24A
Built and delivered to Air Canada on 21 August 2001
16.00-16.18 (Gate D36; wheels up on runway 24R at 16:34)
17.13-17.34 (Gate 03; wheels down on runway 24R at 17:28)
Announced flying time: 1hr13mins
Cruising Altitude: FL 350
Load factor: 75% in Y
Routing: CYYZ-DEDUI-MIGCO-HABSS1-CYUL
Personal statistics
159th registered flight.
4th flight in 2012
4th flight on Air Canada
15th flight on the Airbus A320 family aircraft
6th flight on the A319-100
1st flight on C-GITP

Videos related to AC 0418 from Toronto Pearson to Montreal
Saftey video (from Air Canada, not mine):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4ajY4Bcaw

Takeoff in Toronto Pearson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSHcW_-ZMh4

Climbout in Toronto Pearson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMif_vjw-XY

Inflight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87LhBmI7WUU

Approach in Montreal::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP4cJ70VOaY

Landing in Montreal::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXsFtLy2fTk

When boarding I greeted the purser and gave him the chocolate box. I recieved a big thank you and proceeded trough the executive cabin. This was in a typical domestic North American First class style, lounge chairs in 2-2 configuration. All the seatbacks where fitted with Air Canada’s new enroute system. Economy seating is a bit different as well than the Boeing 767. While not having the advanced options like headrests etc.. they still offer decent seating comfort with well padded seats. Like the majority of the fleet C-GITP is equipped with Air Canada’s latest AVOD system as well. Crew today consitsted of 1 young male purser, 1 young female and 1 male in his 40s.
Another pic of C-GHKR again.



The flight was about 75% full, while the middle seat remained empty a woman in her mid-40s took the aisle seat. Soon boarding was completed, the saftey demo started and pushback commenced . Our taxi to runway 24 was pretty lenghthy. However we had great views of the International gates of Terminal 1.
Air Canada (A330-300) + LOT (B767-300ER) + Lufthansa (A340-300) preparing for their overnights to Europe



Jet Airways (A330-200) to Brussels and Delhi + Austrian Airlines (B767-300ER) to Vienna.



After some taxing we reached runway 24R and at 16:34 C-GITP speeded up towards Montreal Dorval.



Bye Bye Toronto! See you in a few weeks!!



Climbing away from Ontario


When crossing 10 000 feet I decided to turn the same playlist on again I was listening earlier on Air Canada 881. In flight Entertainment options where fewer compared to the Boeing 767. The map had a few lesser functions as well. If course the available options where still more than sufficient for a 1 hour flight to Montreal. In the meanwhile it was overcasted again outside.



All flights between Montreal and Toronto Pearson are marketed as rapidair (including the flights that are continuing to/orignating from Brussels and Geneva), which offers hourly shuttle between both cities. Another interesting fact of the Rapidair flights that you get a free snack and no BOB like on other Domestic flights. However it is not much, it’s nice to get something for free on short haul nowadays.



The Sun has started to set above the Ontario countryside.



And not to forget... The obligatory legroom pic, generous legroom on the A319 as well.



At 16:55 the decent into the Montreal area had started in the last daylight.



Soon in the middle of the clouds!



Following the St-Lawrence river.



Montreal, the city for the next 3 weeks..



Soon above the Dorval suburban area.



At 17:28 C-GITP touched down on runway 24R, after a short taxi we made it quickly to gate 3 in the domestic concourse. Where we came to a complete stop at 17:34 besides a company A319 registred C-GAQX bound for Calgary as AC 155 at 18:30.



The cabin of C-GITP



And the cockpit picture was granted as well.



After thanking the crew and bidding them farewell I went on to the terminal. By now it was 17:42.

Arrival in Montreal Dorval International Airport

First of all I looked at the FIDS where C-GITP will be going next. Our A319 will have about an hour rest before returning to Toronto Pearson as AC425. When entering the concourse I found it was very crowded and one really needed to watch where he was going without running into each other. Today belt 20 was assigned for our flight.



I reclaimed my luggage by 18:00 and met my school coördinator after. We exchanged our greetings and changed some money. After that I got a ride to LaSalle where I arrived by 18:40 after an 18hrs40min trip from Belgium.

Overall verdict:

I flew Air Canada back in 2010 from Montreal to Ft Lauderdale and was very pleased with the service. After putting that report on I got quite a bit of controverse replies making it even more tempting for me to try their long-haul service. Today I had the chance to do that and I must say I was not disappointed at all. Comfortable seating, great IFE , great quality of meals and Great flight Attendants. Sure the meal portion could be bigger and the they could do some working on the IFE but still they are miles ahead of all their US competitors and even some European competitors. I would not hesitate to fly Air Canada again, special thanks to Helen and Heather as well for making AC881 a very great mark in the book.I found the design of Paris CDG Terminal 2A to be quite classy but would not want to be there in high season when all flights are fully booked. Toronto Pearson is a wide, open, clean and well signed in and very easy to connect in regardless of your Origin and destination. Montreal’s domestic concourse on the other side was a bit crowded

Overall remarks:

Air Canada 0881 from Paris Charles De Gaulle to Toronto Pearson : (Total score = 84%)

Departure: 70% (Nice and classy architecture and friendly staff)
Aircraft cleanliness : 90% (Very well maintained for a 24 year old aircraft)
Seat Comfort: 90% (Very comfortable and very generous legroom at all..)
Crew: 90% (The majority of the crew was very nice, caring and costumer-friendly. )
IFE: 80% (very user friendly touch screen, enough choice. However some options where not availible.)
Catering: 80% (While the main portion could be a bit better the overall quality of all the meals and snacks where very good)
Arrival: 90% (Transferring in Toronto-Pearson is hassle free, regardless of origin and destination)

Air Canada/Rapidair 0418 from Toronto-Pearson to Montreal: (Total score = 81%)

Departure: 80% (Nice, clean and open with plenty of things to do. Sound quality of the announcements could be improved.)
Aircraft cleanliness : 80% (clean and kept that way)
Seat Comfort: 80% (comfortable and generous legroom.)
Crew: 80% (A bit rushed but still friendly and nice)
IFE 100% (great to have such a choice on such s short flight)
Catering: 80% (Pretzelsnack was sufficient for the 1hour hop to Montreal)
Arrival: 60% (The domestic concourse was very crowded)

As a bonus I would like to give a list of regs I spotted in Paris Charles De Gaulle, Toronto Pearson and Montreal.

Paris Charles De Gaulle:
F-GSPX
F-GISD
C-FTIW
C-FCAB
F-GSQJ
N172DN
N349AN
N177AN
F-GZCA
F-GZCL
N393AA
F-GITE
9Y-AYR
F-GSEU
CS-TRH
N398AA
D-AIRM
F-GZCG
N279AY
F-GZCC
F-GSPS



Toronto Pearson International
N11106
C-FCAB
C-FIUM
C-FIUC
C-GARO
C-GOJZ
PH-BFN
C-GITP
C-GRKH
C-FMWP
C-FMXC
C-GHLT
C-GFAJ
SP-LPB
VT-JWG
OE-LAX


Montreal Dorval:
C-GITP
C-GACX
C-FFWI


Total facts in this trip report
2 New registrations (C-FCAB and C-GITP)


Thanks for reading and viewing this trip report, I hope you enjoyed reading it. As usual, comments and feedback are always welcome

Stay tuned for my next trip report:
Toronto City Centre, but no Porter!


Past trip reports:
SAS, Stockholm And The A.net Meeting! (by MSS658 Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A332s, A Step Forward In The Fleet? (by MSS658 Apr 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Going Home, The Star Alliance Way! (by MSS658 Mar 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Jetting The Blue Way To New York! (by MSS658 Feb 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Chasing The Storm On US Airways! (by MSS658 Jan 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Trip On A Classic Silverjet And Some Trains! (by MSS658 Jan 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 24403 times:

Hoi Marc, nice report!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
While the A380 is a new type on my list, I’m not fond of Air France at all. As matter in fact.

Hmm, I still haven't understood what's so bad about Air France. Clean aircraft, good food, nice wines and free champagne, and also the crews have often been friendly. Oh well I'm sure you'll have many other opportunities to catch the A380  
Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I could have flown directly to Montreal on the Boeing 777-300ER, but the option with a change in Toronto was 50 Euros cheaper.

Well that would be a no-brainer for me too, and besides the 2-seaters on the 767 is more comfy than 3, especially on long hauls.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
At 5:55 my dad dropped gave me a ride to the Lille-Flandres station where I was able to catch my TGV ride. By 6.30 we where in Lille and I said goodbye.

Hmm, so is Lille really that close to the Belgian town where you live?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
She will be soon underway as CX272 to Hong Kong via Amsterdam. Too bad they do not offer fifth freedom routes on this route.

Interesting, had no idea they operated that route via AMS. Would for sure have been fun if it was a 5th freedom.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Very delicious indeed and free wine.

Looks very good, although did they offer spirits for free as well in economy? Also did they serve any drinks + snacks before the meal?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
And not to forget... The obligatory legroom pic, generous legroom on the A319 as well.

Well looks quite tight to me.

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 24306 times:

Nice report Marc! Seems AC is a decent and safe choice over the Atlantic, and a lot better then some of the US carriers. Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 24236 times:
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Hallo MSS658,

Interesting report my friend and your HTML writing and layout have improved significantly, well done! Air Canada feels here like a breath of fresh air: a nice cabin - even on a retirement due 767 - nice FA's, good food and IFE. Sure worth the money here. Now next time you take this flight ex-BRU, right?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Even with the winter conditions my TGV to Paris Charles de Gaulle and Marseille will be departing on time.

Yeah - trains tend to have less problems with severe weather.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The legroom was ok as well.

 Wow! Shoes out alarm!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
She will be soon underway as CX272 to Hong Kong via Amsterdam. Too bad they do not offer fifth freedom routes on this route.

Yes too bad, but doesn't this one go direct from CDG or AMS now?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
However I really found it a nice gesture I had to refuse it as an A.netter.

Ha ha, you're really really hardcore, aren't you?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
General information (despite the aircraft pointed in the wrong direction)

Depends on where you find yourself on the globe. For us Europeans it is indeed the wrong direction.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
and having the patience....

Ha ha, you have me chuckling here!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
my playlist for the majority of the flight.

Can you actuall program your own playlist?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
C-FCAB

CAB, I like that reg  

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Like this A319 registred C-GARO.

C-(I)GARO, this one's cute as well.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The cabin of C-GITP

That looks quite a pleasant cabin.

Sultanils



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 24226 times:
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Hi Marc,

Another great report, thanks for sharing.
Looks like you had some nice flights with AC, have flown them a couple of times myself and found them to be pretty good too. Hope to try them out again soon!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Unlike my TGV trip in december, this TGV had the older and more comfortable seats on the upper deck.

Those seats look quite comfortable

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The ride itself was uneventful, enjoying some home made breakfast and just relaxing while the sun started to rise above Northern France.

Nice sunrise!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
She will be soon underway as CX272 to Hong Kong via Amsterdam. Too bad they do not offer fifth freedom routes on this route.

That would have been great indeed!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Routing

How do you always find that routing? Quite interesting too see

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
While taxing Helen walked up to me and offered me the 3 center seats of row 34 However I really found it a nice gesture I had to refuse it as an A.netter.

Good decision, but very nice of her to do that

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Hmmm... I didn%u2019t knew that we will be flying eastbound for the majority of the flight to Toronto

hehe you're taking the detour via Asia  
Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Hard to see this plane is from the 1980%u2019s heh?

Looks in great condition!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
my playlist for the majority of the flight

What a great set of songs you have there

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Any Idea which airport this is?

Buttonville Municipal

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Soon I got greeted by a not so friendly agent who stamped my passport.

Just like my experience in april  

Looking forward to part 2!

Take care,

Brendan


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 24030 times:

Hello

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Hoi Marc, nice report!

Hej Jonas. Dankë

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Hmm, I still haven't understood what's so bad about Air France. Clean aircraft, good food, nice wines and free champagne, and also the crews have often been friendly. Oh well I'm sure you'll have many other opportunities to catch the A380

hmmm... our experciences differ quite a bit. Worn aircraft, indifferent crews.... Thank goodness for the free booze..

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Well that would be a no-brainer for me too, and besides the 2-seaters on the 767 is more comfy than 3, especially on long hauls.

That's a fact! However the 777 is a mighty airport.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Hmm, so is Lille really that close to the Belgian town where you live?

Yup, actually even closer than BRU is.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Interesting, had no idea they operated that route via AMS. Would for sure have been fun if it was a 5th freedom.

Well they did then, no both CDG and AMS are nonstops out of HKG

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Looks very good, although did they offer spirits for free as well in economy? Also did they serve any drinks + snacks before the meal?

Spirits where for free as well, nothing was served before the meal.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Well looks quite tight to me.

The seat was reclined  .

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
Nice report Marc! Seems AC is a decent and safe choice over the Atlantic, and a lot better then some of the US carriers. Thanks for sharing!

Hello Robert, Thanks. AC is indeed much better than many of the US ones  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Yeah - trains tend to have less problems with severe weather.

HI Nils, thanks. I would not underestimate that.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Yes too bad, but doesn't this one go direct from CDG or AMS now?

Both go direct to AMS and CDG from HKG

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Ha ha, you're really really hardcore, aren't you?

I'm on this board for a reason!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Depends on where you find yourself on the globe. For us Europeans it is indeed the wrong direction.

Unless as Brendan suggested!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Can you actuall program your own playlist?
Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
That looks quite a pleasant cabin.

I can only agree

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Hi Marc,

Another great report, thanks for sharing.
Looks like you had some nice flights with AC, have flown them a couple of times myself and found them to be pretty good too. Hope to try them out again soon!

Hi Brendan! Thanks. I can only advise to fly them again!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Those seats look quite comfortable

Where indeed!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Nice sunrise!

Definate worth to take a picture

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
That would have been great indeed!

Would book it soon  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
How do you always find that routing? Quite interesting too see

A fact sheet for the for the front office and www.flightaware.com

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Good decision, but very nice of her to do that

I'm a hardcore A.netter

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
hehe you're taking the detour via Asia

and that in 8hrs  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
What a great set of songs you have there

Thanks!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Buttonville Municipal

Thanks!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Just like my experience in april

Maybe it was the same person!

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1091 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 23741 times:

Hi Marc.

A very enjoyable report! It seems you are a fan of North America!

I was interested to compare this and some Air Transat flights I took earlier in the winter. The differences aren't enormous.

That was also quite decadent of you to order Godiva choc's! Well done...

Rgds

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6715 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 23606 times:

Hi Marc,

nice report about your AC trip. Good to see you flew on the oldest 763 in the fleet. The catering looks fine, definitely better than on my AC long-haul flights.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
NOTE: Their will be a couple of names of Flight Attendants mentioned in this report, this is with full permission (and on request) of the F/A%u2019s in question

Good!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Like this Lufthy A320 D-AIRM.

Must be D-AIPM. D-AIRM is an A321.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 23464 times:

Hi Marc

Great report of your Air Canada experience - thanks for posting this one. I'll be on an AC 319 in a couple of weeks so it was great to see what I might expect.

Looks like you had some nice flights - those approach shots into YUL look very very cold - brrrr. I will be in Montreal in a few weeks - thankfully it won't be snowing!

Thanks again and look forward to the next part.

Cheers Palmjet



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1256 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 23434 times:

Hey Marc,

Good report as usual. Air Canada looks like one of the better North American carriers and i wouldn't be against trying them one day based on this and other reports on here.

Looking forward to the next chapter!



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 22868 times:

Hello all

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 6):
Hi Marc.

A very enjoyable report! It seems you are a fan of North America!

Thanks. Yes, I have quite some family living there.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 6):
I was interested to compare this and some Air Transat flights I took earlier in the winter. The differences aren't enormous.

Good to know!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Hi Marc,

nice report about your AC trip. Good to see you flew on the oldest 763 in the fleet. The catering looks fine, definitely better than on my AC long-haul flights.

Hello PH, Thanks. Glad you liked it and that the catering has improved.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Must be D-AIPM. D-AIRM is an A321.

Thanks!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 8):
Hi Marc

Great report of your Air Canada experience - thanks for posting this one. I'll be on an AC 319 in a couple of weeks so it was great to see what I might expect.

Looks like you had some nice flights - those approach shots into YUL look very very cold - brrrr. I will be in Montreal in a few weeks - thankfully it won't be snowing!

Thanks again and look forward to the next part.

Cheers Palmjet

Hi PJ

Thanks, glad you liked it.
At the moment it was -10 C in Montreal, so pretty cold indeed.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Hey Marc,

Good report as usual. Air Canada looks like one of the better North American carriers and i wouldn't be against trying them one day based on this and other reports on here.

Looking forward to the next chapter!

HI Luke! Thanks.
AC is indeed one of the best, ranked as the best long-haul expercience up to now.



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 22572 times:

Hi Marc,

Good to see the opening part of your Canada report. Looks like you too had a nice experience with the AC transatlantic product with the 763.

Yes, Air Canada's transatlantic product impressed me very much this summer as you know. Was also very, very impressed by the XMed 767s - you can hardly tell these are 20 year old planes. I liked my flight a lot with them, would not hesitate to go back any day to catch more flights. Just not ex-BRU again, thank you  .

Toronto T3 is also a very nice, modern terminal as is evident from your pictures.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Another interesting fact of the Rapidair flights that you get a free snack and no BOB like on other Domestic flights. However it is not much, it’s nice to get something for free on short haul nowadays.

Are you sure? I thought all North American Air Canada flights featured free beverages plus some nuts or pretzels like this with your drink? BOB was then available for booze and food items. It was this way at least back in 2005 which is the last time I flew AC domestic on some other route than YUL-YYZ.


User currently offlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 22496 times:

Hi,

is it just me or can anyone else not see the pics?



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User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 22273 times:

Good Job! Exciting TR!


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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 22182 times:

Hi Marc!

Nice report as usual!
Air Canada seemed nice, I wouldn't mind flying with them some day. 767 is indeed a very nice bird, probably my favourite Boeing.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Operating Air Canada 880 above Nova Scotia was C-FCAB, an ex-Canadian Boeing 767-300ER. C-FCAB is the oldest 767 in the Air Canada fleet and the 18th Boeing 767-300 ever made.

Glad to see it in such good condition despite its age.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
You can even look up how far you are from any city in the world!

That's a rather cool feature!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
As many airlines do nowadays Air Canada serves Monty’s warm wraps on it’s flights. One could choose between chicken or mushroom filling. I went for the former. Taste was quite good.

Nice! Better than SK's second serving on TATL flights in Economy.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
before deboarding a quick peek in Executive Class

Looks very nice! Except for the lack of proper window seats, as you mentioned.

Martin


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 22003 times:

Hi Marc !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures ! Good to see you go and improve your French! That's something that I should do as well.

I have to agree with Jonas here:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Hmm, I still haven't understood what's so bad about Air France. Clean aircraft, good food, nice wines and free champagne, and also the crews have often been friendly

I really like Air France; fantastic food for Y, service is good and IFE is good as well. CDG is not a good airport to transfer at but FRA is not much better.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 1):
Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I could have flown directly to Montreal on the Boeing 777-300ER, but the option with a change in Toronto was 50 Euros cheaper.

Well that would be a no-brainer for me too, and besides the 2-seaters on the 767 is more comfy than 3, especially on long hauls.

Not going on a 777 is disappointing and especially so when there is a nonstop flight.

Meals look good and service seem good to. The XM IFE system is a really nice with a very varied content.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Depends on where you find yourself on the globe. For us Europeans it is indeed the wrong direction.

Not really; the map displays a flight going east when the flight actually was heading west. Doesn't matter where you are for that to be incorrect.

Legroom on the 319 DOES seem to be very tight.

Very much looking forward to the next part!

The777Man



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 21760 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 11):
Hi Marc,

Good to see the opening part of your Canada report. Looks like you too had a nice experience with the AC transatlantic product with the 763.

Yes, Air Canada's transatlantic product impressed me very much this summer as you know. Was also very, very impressed by the XMed 767s - you can hardly tell these are 20 year old planes. I liked my flight a lot with them, would not hesitate to go back any day to catch more flights. Just not ex-BRU again, thank you

Hola Petteri
Thanks, Glad you liked it. The XMed 767s are indeed quite impressive.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 11):
Toronto T3 is also a very nice, modern terminal as is evident from your pictures.

Correction, T1  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 11):
Are you sure? I thought all North American Air Canada flights featured free beverages plus some nuts or pretzels like this with your drink? BOB was then available for booze and food items. It was this way at least back in 2005 which is the last time I flew AC domestic on some other route than YUL-YYZ.

Today everything is BOB with the exception of non-alcoholic beverages (like each N. American carrier does)

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
Hi,

is it just me or can anyone else not see the pics?

Hi

Strange, my album settings are public...

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 13):
Good Job! Exciting TR!

Thanks!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
Hi Marc!

Nice report as usual!
Air Canada seemed nice, I wouldn't mind flying with them some day. 767 is indeed a very nice bird, probably my favourite Boeing.

Hi Martin
Thanks, the 763 is cool indeed. If you want to catch them, they go CPH-YYZ a few times a week as well.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
Glad to see it in such good condition despite its age.

Indeed.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
That's a rather cool feature!

Tell me about it  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
Nice! Better than SK's second serving on TATL flights in Economy.

Good to know!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
Hi Marc !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures ! Good to see you go and improve your French! That's something that I should do as well.

Hi Lars,
Thanks! glad you enjoyed reading it. Even with some opinion differences  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
I really like Air France; fantastic food for Y, service is good and IFE is good as well. CDG is not a good airport to transfer at but FRA is not much better.

Service/IFE wise I unafortunaly have several different stories  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
Not going on a 777 is disappointing and especially so when there is a nonstop flight.

Meals look good and service seem good to. The XM IFE system is a really nice with a very varied content.

Haha,... wel I don't mind the 777 but it was so long ago I had a 763 plus it was cheaper  
Air Canada's serice is very great indeed, worth trying them one day!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
Legroom on the 319 DOES seem to be very tight.

Do keep in mind that the seat was reclined, so in reality there was a bit more room than it looks!

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 21501 times:

Hey Marc  

Great report.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Unlike my TGV trip in december, this TGV had the older and more comfortable seats on the upper deck.

Arr we have those same ones on the Dublin-Belfast Cross border train . They were supplied by De Dietrich so I guess it makes sense.  
Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
After the meal service was cleared the duty free trolley came, I ordered me some godiva chocolates and I was offered some more wine while enjoying Air Canada’s fine service.

Great choice they are my weakness.

Very nice report on Air Canada . Glad you had a good experience. I loved my first AC flight last Winter and will certainly be flying them again this Winter  

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinecanadiantree From France, joined Jun 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 20875 times:

Very nice report my friend. Air Canada is extremely underrated when it comes to their soft product. I will be uploading my own report soon hopefully of my trip this summer from Budapest to Vancouver via Munich-Toronto on the outbound leg and Calgary-Frankfurt on the inbound. The crew on the MUC-YYZ was amongst the BEST I've ever had, genuine friendly and prompt service.

The soft product degrades quickly once you transfer onto domestic that's obvious, but man... Anyways stay tuned for my report, I hope to have it ready in a week or so...

Again, great report thank you for sharing!


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 20817 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Hey Marc

Great report.

Hey Phillip

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Arr we have those same ones on the Dublin-Belfast Cross border train . They were supplied by De Dietrich so I guess it makes sense.

Good to know

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Great choice they are my weakness.

Haha... mine as well my friend!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Very nice report on Air Canada . Glad you had a good experience. I loved my first AC flight last Winter and will certainly be flying them again this Winter

Great, longhaul as well?

Quoting canadiantree (Reply 18):
Very nice report my friend. Air Canada is extremely underrated when it comes to their soft product. I will be uploading my own report soon hopefully of my trip this summer from Budapest to Vancouver via Munich-Toronto on the outbound leg and Calgary-Frankfurt on the inbound. The crew on the MUC-YYZ was amongst the BEST I've ever had, genuine friendly and prompt service.

The soft product degrades quickly once you transfer onto domestic that's obvious, but man... Anyways stay tuned for my report, I hope to have it ready in a week or so...

Again, great report thank you for sharing!

Hi Canadiantree

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Air Canada is ranked as one of my favorite long haul carriers. They simply do beat all the US carriers and some Eurocarriers as well.
Looking forward to reading your story as well.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 20227 times:

Hi Marc,

Good to read about your trip to Canada and hope the French course was a success! It was strange to see so many pictures of snowy landscapes, although I guess the winter will be here before we know it.

The meal looks good and AC certainly looked after you. Great that you got the flightdeck visit on arrival too.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I didn%u2019t knew that we will be flying eastbound for the majority of the flight to Toronto

That's so random. I wonder why it shows such a glaring error.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
before deboarding a quick peek in Executive Class

Don't like that at all, way to futuristic for my taste!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlinerogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1197 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20171 times:

Hola Marc!

Nice to see a report on trans-continental AC. They seem to offer a nice product, seat, meals and especially the IFE is a great bonus for such long flights, as long as it works.

I have flown them quite a bit, especially domestic and trans-border and they are great, most on time flights and a very good service, at least on C, in Y they are BOB, which is not very different from some European ones, as you know, especially in Spain.

YYZ is a very nice piece of architecture, I really enjoyed transferring there, although YVR is more convenient for trans-border flights where you do not even have to pick up your luggage, just identify it on a screen.

Hope your French has improved and you got to do a little sightseeing in Montréal and around.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I didn’t knew that we will be flying eastbound for the majority of the flight to Toronto  

Well if you look at it from the North Pole is not that odd.

Salut! A la prochaine!

Roger



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User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20166 times:

Hi Marc

Thanks for the interesting read. Looks like Air Canada have quite a solid product. For what I can tell from your pictures they're one of the few American carriers that can keep up with the international competition as far as the level of service provided is concerned.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
After the meal service was cleared the duty free trolley came, I ordered me some godiva chocolates and I was offered some more wine while enjoying Air Canada’s fine service.

I get myself some Godiva chocolate whenever I'm passing through Amsterdam. Always good to have a stash of chocolate on long flights!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
As many airlines do nowadays Air Canada serves Monty’s warm wraps on it’s flights. One could choose between chicken or mushroom filling. I went for the former. Taste was quite good.

Those Monty's Posh Wraps are really quite amazing. They've more or less taken over airline catering!

Anyway, I hope things worked out for you in the end with the French language and the job.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19731 times:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 20):
Hi Marc,

Good to read about your trip to Canada and hope the French course was a success! It was strange to see so many pictures of snowy landscapes, although I guess the winter will be here before we know it.

Hi Hannah!
Thanks, glad you liked it. Time flies indeed, Autumm is only a few days away you know!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 20):
The meal looks good and AC certainly looked after you. Great that you got the flightdeck visit on arrival too.

AC is indeed a very great carrier. Those post-arrival flight deck visits seem to be easier in N America than Europe IMO

Quoting infodesk (Reply 20):
Don't like that at all, way to futuristic for my taste!

Happy flying
Infodesk

Fact, my opinion as well.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 21):
Hola Marc!

Nice to see a report on trans-continental AC. They seem to offer a nice product, seat, meals and especially the IFE is a great bonus for such long flights, as long as it works.

I have flown them quite a bit, especially domestic and trans-border and they are great, most on time flights and a very good service, at least on C, in Y they are BOB, which is not very different from some European ones, as you know, especially in Spain.

Hola Roger

Thanks, glad you liked it. AC is indeed a top notch carrier compared to it's US counterparts.
Y is indeed BOB on short haul, however choices and prices are more interesting IMO.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 21):
YYZ is a very nice piece of architecture, I really enjoyed transferring there, although YVR is more convenient for trans-border flights where you do not even have to pick up your luggage, just identify it on a screen.

YVR has a better arcitecture IMO.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
Hi Marc

Thanks for the interesting read. Looks like Air Canada have quite a solid product. For what I can tell from your pictures they're one of the few American carriers that can keep up with the international competition as far as the level of service provided is concerned.

Hi William
Thanks, glad you liked it. Air Canada is indeed on par (or hence even better) than the European carriers.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
I get myself some Godiva chocolate whenever I'm passing through Amsterdam. Always good to have a stash of chocolate on long flights!

Addictive, aren't they?

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
Those Monty's Posh Wraps are really quite amazing. They've more or less taken over airline catering!

I wonder how many airlines serve these actually?

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinecanadianpylon From Canada, joined May 2003, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 19210 times:

Very interesting and informative TR, as usual. Thanks!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Toronto’s terminal 1 has a nice wide and open feel with many concession stands, quite nice for a North American airport.

I personally find the Terminal 1 in YYZ very white. It is aesthetically pleasing in the summer, when the large windows show the green grass and long sunshine days, but in winter..... It's white on white. With the shorter daylight hours of winter, the terminal never feels dark with all of that white.

Thanks again for taking the time to post a very thorough and well-documented trip report!



Always looking for the longest route with the most transfers.
25 MSS658 : Hi canadianpylon Thanks, glad you liked it! T1 at YYZ gives indeed a light and airy feeling! However I prefer that IMO Greetings Marc
26 canadianpylon : Maybe it's because I drive to the airport, in snow, get in an airplane, take off see clouds (white) or snow covered ground (white), land, see the sno
27 steex : Very nice TR! Despite being here in North America and a regular visitor to Canada, I've still not gotten around to flying Air Canada. I definitely nee
28 Post contains images MSS658 : Yes, if you get used to seeing the same airport always I have the same impression about BRU btw Hey steex! Thanks, I can only advise you to try AC Th
29 Post contains images airbuseric : Hi Marc, nice to read your Canadian adventure! Interestingly enough I can't get a 'click' with the B767 myself. Only logged a few flights on this type
30 Post contains images MSS658 : Hi Eric Thanks, glad you liked it! Well everybody has his own favorites right Can imagine the confusion in HKG, glad both flights are seperate now! T
31 Post contains images CaptainRed : Hi Marc, finally found the time to check out this report to Canada. Again a good read, thanks a lot for it. So, one more leg for less money, guess the
32 Post contains images MSS658 : Hi Captain Thanks, glad you liked it! Where are on this forum for a reason . You would not say that this plane is 24 years old Same opinon here, I wa
33 Post contains images BZNPilot : Hi Marc! Great report, as usual, from you. I was finally able to read it carefully, and in full, and it was an excellent read. Looks like you had a ni
34 Post contains images MSS658 : Hi John Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I can only reccommend AC. Same here, you would not say that the plane is that old. Indeed I can only agree I t
35 abrelosojos : Marc, Thanks for the writeup on AC. I think you lucked out with some great crew members. Have found their crew to be a mixed bag ... but then again, w
36 MSS658 : Hello Alex Thanks, glad you liked it. I was indeed lucky with my crew set (Actually the return crew to CDG was very kind as well). Loads where light
37 amritpal : Hi. Great trip report. Loved the pics. I haven't done an international flying in last 13 years, but will be doing it in 3 weeks. Curious, you mentione
38 MSS658 : Hi, thanks for your comment! Glad you liked it. Have fun on your international trip. This usually due to Customs if connecting towards a domestic des
39 amritpal : Thanks for the info Marc. I will definitely check with Aeroplan again. Thanks again.
40 TriStar1845 : thx for sharing..love the pic of toronto where only the downtown core is lit..the contrast makes the pic breathtaking
41 MSS658 : Hi TriStar1845 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Greetings Marc
42 The777Man : That' is very few; on UA's 763s, 8 F/As are assigned to work. Other way around; for sure always need to clear immigration and customs at first point
43 A340600 : Thanks for the report, looks near identical to my AC longhauls a few weeks back; I really enjoyed their service. 340
44 longhauler : At AC, 7 or 8 is the normal F/A crew compliment on a B767-300 in a J/Y configuration, and 7 in an S/Y configuration. It will vary depending on the se
45 MSS658 : Hi Lars Thanks for the info! Hi 340 Thanks, glad you liked it! AC does have great service indeed. Hello Longhauler. Statement was based on the F/A's
46 Post contains images eastafspot : Marc, thank you for this AC report The load factor is advantageous for you, and for a morning flight it is worth to get the middle seats for a wee nap
47 MSS658 : Hi Léo Thanks for the comment, glad you liked it. I still had a reduction on the French railways to get to CDG + the cheaper fares from CDG made my
48 Post contains images akhmad : Hoi Marc, Somehow I missed this report of yours earlier, but now it’s the perfect opportunity to catch up as I am heading for YYZ myself! Oh, and yo
49 MSS658 : Hey Suryo Thanks, glad you liked it. That CX route would have been a nice one Standard on all N America/ Canada flights Good to know Thanks! Danku! h
50 longhauler : This just caught my eye. I assume you meant C-FITW. CF-TIW (which would have been updated to C-FTIW) was the registration of an aircraft previously i
51 MSS658 : Yes I did, thanks
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