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BA And AA To MBJ In Business Class  
User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14720 times:

After my first trip report in June when I flew BA from LGW to KIN, I now find myself flying to Jamaica, rather unexpectedly but this time my journey started at LHR and I was flying in to Jamaica's second and biggest airport, MBJ via MIA.

Flight BA207 and AA2071
LHR-MIA-MBJ
22 Aug 12
Boeing 747-400 and 737-800
Seat 61A and 5A

As we are living in austere times and belt tightening is required all around; I decided to take the Rail-Bus combination from my local station. It all worked very well. 20 minutes on the train and then 35 minutes on the bus and I was at Heathrow terminal 5.

Check-in area
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Club World is in check-in zone H, opposite First class check-in (how the other half live). Unlike at Gatwick, there was a queue for check-in. I was served by a very polite and knowledgeable check-in lady, so no complaints there. She said she was looking forward to going to KIN next week, as cabin crew I assume. Nice bit of job flexibility, if that is the case.

After check-in it was quickly through security and in to the shopping oasis that is any BAA controlled airport, except T5 seems to be a mall on speed but with many of the same repetetive stores all having numerous outlets.

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Getting to the Club World lounge was made a tad tricky by a malfunctioning escalator. So it was down in a lift, turn right walk 150m, take another lift, then an escalator and you were there in the Galleries South Lounge.

BA A380 model outside the lounge
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Galleries Breakfast
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The seats were comfortable, lots of food was available, and there was sufficient space. So all in all an ok lounge and I did not really do much other than surf the net and read the papers. Though I could, if I had wanted to; take a shower and or a spa.

View from the lounge
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I then took the transit to get to concourse B where my flight was leaving from. The journey is very short and is only a minute if that. Once in concourse B it is a short walk to the gate, whence I realised that there's a lounge in B cocourse, doh. Boarding had already started and unlike at Gatwick their was a priority line so I was able to skip to the front and despite it being a 747, their wasn't an almighty que to get on as was the case with the 777 at LGW.

Once on board, I climbed the stairs and as I was not travelling with my Grandmother, I was able to choose a window seat. The gentleman in front of me was having issues with his seat as the armrest was broken.

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The 747s are starting to look a tad aged and the overhead bins are actually quite small, though you do have more than enough storage space, thanks to the side bins next to the seat. The toilet door had to be man handled back on by the head steward (not is official job title, I know).

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Take off was delayed owing to two transit customers not turning up and their baggage having to be taken off. We then pushed back and waited our turn in the lineup behind a Singapore airlines A380, and a BMI A330, amongst others. Then we were on our way. A very long roll along runway then we started what was a very southerly route (according to the captain) towards Southampton, then out across Lands End, south west towards the Azores. Then finally West towards Miami.

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The inflight service started early with nuts and the obligatory red wine, Hahn Winery Piot Noir 2010, Monterey California. I only had the one topup as I was keen to see through the full three course. For a starter I had a classic smoked salmon with capers along with a seasonal salad. The alternative was a golden betroot salad.

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The main course choice was between a Fillet of Herfordshire beef, hake fish pie or risotto. I went for the beef and it was very nice, especially the smoked garlic mash and other stuff, like artichokes.

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Marketing feature about Trinidad and Tobago in the BA inflight magazine
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For dessert I chosed the ice cream over a lemon curd cheese cake or cheese and biscuits. The ice cream tubs were rather small and reminiscent of something you would get in Virgin Atlantic economy, oh the horror, lol. I was allowed to have two of the vanilla tubs, so two thumbs up.

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After my 3 course meal it was time to sleep but not for long because as ever the cabin temperature is maintained at too high a temperature, for me.

As I could not sleep I decided to eat and so helped myself to a light snack from the bar, downstairs.

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My very messy personal space in the sky
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Evening tea was served prior to our arrival in MIA and was comprised of a sandwich and tea but why the strawberry jam and clotted creams when we are served no scones?

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Must say that the BA staff were very playfull and friendly and made flying a pleasure.

Arrived in Miami on time but premier economy customers who sit at the front of the plane are allowed off before the club world customers, weird. Then a very long walk to passport control, which allows you to take in the sights of MIA and build up a sweat during the trek from concourse D. Passport control was relatively painless.

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A Surinam Airlines 737
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I was then surprised that I had to exit customs and that meant an almighty queue and then i had to go through security again which meant losing all the toiletries and liquid gifts i had bought in london, nice.

Queue to go through customs clearance
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Then on to the admirals club, which like everything else at Miami, is starting to look dated and a bit cramp. You do get free wifi and two drink vouchers and thats about it, other than the complimentary tea coffee and fruits. The restroom is basic with only one cubicle and one urinal.

The walk from the Admiral club to the gate is quite short and I boarded via the business class line. When we boarded, there was a technician of some sort actually working in the cabin but whatever he was working on was completed in quick time.

View from the lounge
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The inflight service does not start until all passengers are boarded and then you recieve some orange juice in a plastic cup.

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Once airborn we recieved some warm nuts and a juice of your choice but this time in a glass.

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The partition curtain was not drawn and so this allowed customers in coach to come to the front and sit and chat with their buddies (only briefly) or wander through and use the toilet.

There was inflight entertainment but you needed to either use your own headphone or purchase one. This was only a 72 minute flight so I did neither.

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Lights were not dimmed for landing even though we landed at 1920 and we arrived on time in Montego Bay. Parking up between a Virgin Atlantic 747 and a Condor 763.

Just like at KIN, there's a lot of walking to be done at MBJ but they do have some travelators. On arrival at immigration, there were only 5 desks opened for foreign nationals, inspite of the arrival of the three flights.

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This airport seems to make a great fuss about immigration forms. They check it before you enter the queue and so causing a queue before a queue. Maybe they should print it in dual language but either way a lot of people seemed to be having issues.

Baggage retrival was comparatively quick and customs was painless, then it was on to collect my hire car.

Hassle free arrivals area
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Montego Bay
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Somerset Falls

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Ken Jones Aerodrome near Port Antonio
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The famous Blue lagoon
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Negril beach
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May Pen
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Flight AA412 and BA206
MBJ-MIA-LHR
31 Aug 12
Boeing 737-800 and 747-400
Seat 3B and 20K

Arrived at MBJ via the city centre as it is known, I had never driven to MBJ before but I knew that if I headed in a certain direction I would get there.

Handed in the hire car and walked the short distance to check-in. There is a marked business class desk but staffed by non AA staff. I should really have apologised to the check-in agent for disrupting her day as she did not seem too pleased. She checked me in with the minimum of fuss and then gave me my boarding pass, marked, priority.

Arrivals area at MBJ
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Departures MBJ
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I wasted no time to get to immigration (you have to clear immigration before leaving Jamaica) and made my way through the ViP security line. Once I got to the immigration desk I was turned away because I needed a ViP pass, so I returned to the ViP desk in the departures area. It was then that I was told that, the MBJ ViP lounge has no relationship with AA so I would have to join the ordinary line and so I did. Clearing immigration and then security.

My lack of ViP status, meant I was able to savour the shopping mecca that Montego Bay is. Lots of Black, Gold and Green and almost all, made in China. I then moved to gate 17 to wait for my flight and take advantage of the free WIFI, that is available at MBJ.

Shops
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Food court
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Free WIFI is available at MBJ, not too sure whats available in KIN but don't think it is free. Both airports are quite modern with jet bridges and all the mod cons. They both have a lot of over priced shops but Montego Bay is definately catering for a foreign pallette as it does not have as many Jamaican eateries. KIN handles about half as many passengers as MBJ.

I had checked-in on line but only on the morning of my flights so my seat choice on two very full flights was pretty much already decided for me. On my AA flight to MIA I had the choice of aisle, aisle or aisle so I choosed seat 3B. The check-in sysetm should allow you to move from AA's system to BA's but it would not let me do that so I had to visit each site individually. BA already knows I want a window seat so I was downstairs in seat 20K.

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Camera issues meant I was not able to take any photos during the short 82 minutes flight from MBJ to MIA. Boarding was pretty straight forward and whilst this was going on an Air Tran 737 departed and a Caribbean Airlines 737 arrived. A Jet blue Embrarer 190, Delta 757 and US Airways A320 were the other aircraft on the stands.

During the boarding the pilot allowed an inquisitive young boy to take photos with him in the cabin, which I thought was a sweet touch. Overhearing the stewardess (as you do) and she said their next rotation from MIA was to BGI, where she would overnite till 1pm the following day. Though it was not her choice as she was called in off standby due to people calling in sick.

Flight to MIA was uneventful at least I think so, because I slept for most of it only waking to eat the warmed nuts and orange juice that I was served. The curtain was drawn on this occasion but Coach customers were still allowed to use the bathroom upfront.

Arriving in MIA and the queue for immigration was considerably larger that the last time I was there, which lead one customer to exclaim "it is like being in Jamaica, all over again". The wait was actually only 34 minutes and I even had a conversation with the immigration officer, albeit a short one but goes to show that they are humans after all.

Unlike when I arrived from the UK, I had to collect my baggage on this occasion and then go through customs as before but thankfully there was no real queues. I then left my bags in a specified place and went through security to concourse E.

Concourse E has a BA lounge, which is shared with other One World partners. This was a much better lounge experience than the Admirals Club. Of course WIFI, fruits, tea coffee but wine and lots of wine and alcohol that you helped yourself to. Food that you did not have to pay for and lots of contemporary seats, that I did not take any pictures of because I was too busy making up for what I had not being able to eat in the MBJ lounge, lol.

Pre flight snack
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Dutch Antilles Express pushing back and I am pretty sure she returned to the gates 30 minutes later
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Unusually our flight departure was announced and we made the short walk down to gate E10 and boarded the plane. As usual, two passengers did not turn up so we had to wait for their baggage to be removed from the flight.

Whilst the boarding process was ongoing we were offered the choice of orange juice, wine or champage and again I chosed the orange juice.

We pushed back only a few minutes behind schedule and then waited behind what seemed like a procession of AA 757s, that were either taking off or landing.

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Once airborne I recieved the menu and amenities kit, this was swiftly followed by nuts and some red wine. I decided to try the French Châteauneuf du Pape 2009, Domaine des Sénéchaux but did not find it to my liking so returned to the tried and tested Hahn Winery Pinot Noir 2010, Monterey, California.
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Our planned route
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My starter - Long Island duckling with pine nuts, fig and quinoa salad. The other option was grilled artichoke, blanched asparagus and tomato petals.
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Main course - Breast of Guinea hen with pommes dauphinoise and broccolini. The other options were Parmesan and rosemary-crusted fillet of beef or Provençale vegetable lasagne.
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Dessert - Dulce de leche. Other options were a selection of fruits and Morbier and Camembert cheese with wet walnuts.
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The food was enjoyable and so with a full stomach and lashings of alcohol I was out for the count till 90 minutes before arrival. I then decided to wake myself up and review the in-flight entertainment, so I watched Veep and family guy and listened to the Radio 4 comedy highlights and I can report that I am contented with the inflight entertainment because they obviously keep them updated.

Breakfast - fruit juice, smoothie and fruits. A bacon roll was also available but it was too early for me to be consuming anything like that.
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Route in to LHR
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London calling
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Disembraked the aircraft and then took the short ride on the shuttle train from concourse B and then walked in to a very large immigration queue.
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After 28 minutes in immigration, I collected my bags cleared customs (which only entailed walking through the green lane) and decided I was going to use the arrivals lounge. So it was quickly upstairs and in to the lounge. Showed my ticket, handed in my bag and went for a shower. If I wanted to I could have had some clothes pressed but not this time.
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After my shower I had some breakfast and with time on my hands till my Air France flight to Paris, I decided to take advantage of the Elemis spa and so sat down in their superb massage chair and had a beautiful lady massage creams in to my face for 15 minutes, whilst the machine pounded my back.
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After 4 hours of idling in the lounge I was now ready to head to Paris so I left the BA lounge and headed to terminal 4.
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Heathrow Express
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So LHR is most definately a better Club World experience than LGW but the onboard product is the same. AA's Admiral Club, atleast the one's in MIA are nothing special, whilst MBJ and KIN are two modern airports that Jamaica can be proud of, I actually prefer KIN. The staff are more friendly and it is also a damn sight easier to get to, i.e on a highway.

Just a quick note on my Air France flight to Paris. It was on one of their brand new A318s. The eccentric pilot greeted everyone outside the aircraft and then did the welcoming address from the front of the aircraft before continuing on to fly us to our destination - how cool was that.

[Edited 2012-09-02 04:53:43]

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User currently offlinebowdej01 From UK - England, joined Jul 2011, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14495 times:

It looks like you had a good experience with Club World. Do BA plan to refresh the Club World cabin along side the First?

Thanks for the great report, i really enjoyed reading it.


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14365 times:

Nice insight into BA and AA.

Back in 2004 when i was at MIA, both BA and VS used the Club America lounge - pretty poor showing and only spent about 15 minutes there in the the end. Looks like things have improved since.



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User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14181 times:

Quoting bowdej01 (Reply 1):
Do BA plan to refresh the Club World cabin along side the First?

It looks unlikely that BA will be updating the Club World product any time soon, even though it is still over 5 years old, there are still many competitors who don't offer lie flat beds. I guess any further improvements and Club World would start to impinge on the First product. The seats are very comfortable and my only suggestions would be improvements in the IFE screen and possible cosmetic seat shell changes.

I prefer sitting upstairs on the 747 as you get a lot more personal space. My only two major gripes is having to stare in to someone's face (for the 20 or so minutes prior to landing or take off and when food is being served) when you have to have the privacy screen down or stepping across someone's feet to get aisle access but you can avoid this by selecting a seat next to the bulkhead.


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1925 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 14029 times:
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Good report! Thanks for sharing. Looks like you had some good flights with BA/AA! BA J food looks pretty good - the beef looks tasty!

Glad you had a fun time in Jamaica!

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
The partition curtain was not drawn and so this allowed customers in coach to come to the front and sit and chat with their buddies (only briefly) or wander through and use the toilet.

This is one of my pet-peeves of airline travel, and it seems to only be the case with US airlines. I have been on flights when flight attendants seem to not care if people from Coach go into First, but other times when they have been stickler's to prevent people from going into the premium cabin. I don't think on Emirates or Cathay people would just walk up into First or Business from Coach!

Best,

Matthew


User currently offlinebowdej01 From UK - England, joined Jul 2011, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13577 times:

Quoting JM02 (Reply 3):
It looks unlikely that BA will be updating the Club World product any time soon, even though it is still over 5 years old, there are still many competitors who don't offer lie flat beds. I guess any further improvements and Club World would start to impinge on the First product. The seats are very comfortable and my only suggestions would be improvements in the IFE screen and possible cosmetic seat shell changes.

Thanks JM02 for your response.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13554 times:

Hey jm02

Another great report! Great pics as well. Interesting you took a different routing this time, though to MBJ and not KIN. I guess it was cheaper flying via MIA than direct? Either way, thanks for sharing with us.



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User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13397 times:

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
This is one of my pet-peeves of airline travel, and it seems to only be the case with US airlines.

I can directly compare because I flew on an Air France flight immediately after and there was a great difference. Curtains drawn and no chance of anyone using the toilet upfront. The romance of flying is very much gone state side because it is such a common routine. It is hard to see too many great benefits of paying to sit up front with AA on MBJ-MIA, if you have no lounge access or if the lounge is just a drink and nuts affair. Of course if someone else is paying, then who cares  .

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):
Looks like things have improved since.

The BA lounge in MIA is nice and comparable to the LGW; I remember the lady at reception spotting my french handbook and then settling in to speak French for the rest of the conversation and when she said "tu vas trouver tout les bonnes choses dedans" she was right because I was like a fat kid in a sweetie/bar/fruit shop.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 6):
I guess it was cheaper flying via MIA than direct?

Thanks for the compliments. If it is a last minute booking, as mine was, then it is always more economical to travel via MIA and there are more combination of flights to MBJ because it just gets more flights.

I was surprised to see the Virgin Atlantic jumbo when I landed at MBJ because I never saw her flights come up in any of my search options. It is also funny how many Virgin Atlantic adverts there are in T5, encouraging customers to fly with them next time.


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13182 times:

Quoting JM02 (Reply 3):
Quoting bowdej01 (Reply 1):Do BA plan to refresh the Club World cabin along side the First?
It looks unlikely that BA will be updating the Club World product any time soon, even though it is still over 5 years old, there are still many competitors who don't offer lie flat beds. I guess any further improvements and Club World would start to impinge on the First product. The seats are very comfortable and my only suggestions would be improvements in the IFE screen and possible cosmetic seat shell changes.

.


The latest Club World fitted to the 773's and now being retrofitted to the early 772's as they gain AVOD is slightly different, in that the AVOD has a far larger selection of programmes, and there are now USB ports installed. The seat and its frame are the same though.

The biggest scandal of your entire itinerary is the total lack of scones on the outward flight. Of course you got cream and jam as the scones should have been delivered in a basket suitably warmed by an smiling member of the cabin crew and the question "fruit or plain sir"
No scones = complaint and extra Avios points !!


User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12894 times:

Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 8):
The biggest scandal of your entire itinerary is the total lack of scones on the outward flight.

I did not want to make a big thing out of it but I also received jam/preserve and clotted cream on my outward journey to KIN from LGW in June and there was no scones. London - Jamaica - London In BA Club World (by JM02 Jun 29 2012 in Trip Reports) If I was to mention this to the Daily Mail, I could see this making headline news and somehow, former Prime Minister Gordon Brown could be held to blame for this "fiasco". Instead of notoriety I will happily accept Avios points and a free upgrade.

All joking aside I must compliment BA on the quality of the food and the service but I lived in fear of falling asleep (lots of red wine does that) and not been woken for any of my courses. That is a pet peeve with me about some airlines; I remember once sleeping through Air Jamaica's meal service on a flight from KIN to LHR in 2004 and waking up midway through the flight, very hungry and with nothing available to eat until breakfast was served.


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12837 times:

Quoting JM02 (Reply 9):

All joking aside I must compliment BA on the quality of the food and the service but I lived in fear of falling asleep (lots of red wine does that) and not been woken for any of my courses. That is a pet peeve with me about some airlines; I remember once sleeping through Air Jamaica's meal service on a flight from KIN to LHR in 2004 and waking up midway through the flight, very hungry and with nothing available to eat until breakfast was served.

Aah, the truth now emerges, you were sleeping off the red wine when the scones came round !

Last month I made a trip to the toilet and missed the bacon roll run. My wife didn't think to place an order on my behalf. Just asked a stewardess as she went past and two duly appeared.

Back in the days of flying economy I just used to put up with what was served up, flying Club has done wonders for my assertiveness. If you don't ask where your scones have got to they won't be wasted, someone will be eating them. It might be me      


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2514 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12541 times:

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):

Great TR again JM02. Though BA's B744's may be showing age, they do seem to have an excellent meal service.

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
Queue to go through customs clearance

Thought they didn't allow photographs to be taken in this area. I am always very wary of where and when I snap at airports.

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
There is a marked business class desk but staffed by non AA staff. I should really have apologised to the check-in agent for disrupting her day as she did not seem too pleased.

The few '' bad apples '' among the lot are everywhere. Lol. On one occasion in the past I almost gave the AA rep at the counter in KIN a word of advice. She seemed a bit perturbed because I asked her a simple question re the MIA connection to EWR. How daring of me to '' bother '' her with a question...Lol.

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
Free WIFI is available at MBJ, not too sure whats available in KIN but don't think it is free.

It is free at KIN as well as far as I know. At least it was the last time I used that airport.

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
Arriving in MIA and the queue for immigration was considerably larger that the last time I was there, which lead one customer to exclaim "it is like being in Jamaica, all over again". The wait was actually only 34 minutes and I even had a conversation with the immigration officer, albeit a short one but goes to show that they are humans after all.

Took me 2 hrs to clear immigration at MIA one afternoon. Never again !! ( Hopefully )

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
MBJ and KIN are two modern airports that Jamaica can be proud of, I actually prefer KIN. The staff are more friendly and it is also a damn sight easier to get to, i.e on a highway.

More revamp work is pending at MBJ. The Gate 1 to 4 area of the departure lounge is in desperate need of a revamp. Low ceilings and pale lighting. Age has taken its toll on that area. Part of the check in area will be redone as well I assume.

Quoting JM02 (Thread starter):
KIN handles about half as many passengers as MBJ.

Understandably so due to the tourist traffic to MBJ.

Again great TR.



greenheart
User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12181 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 11):
More revamp work is pending at MBJ.

Hey thanks for the compliments. I did see gates 1-4 and yes I can see why they will update them, if only to add more retail space and it is decidedly darker down there, at least when compared to the gates containing Cool Oasis, Jamaica Bobsled team outlets and more.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 11):
I am always very wary of where and when I snap at airports.

The whole Trip Report thing, strikes me of espionage and undercover photography but am sure if they could have seen me through the crowds they would have probably told me off but the queues and the sea of people was just wow. Truth be told they handled it well but MIA really isn't for the faint hearted and I can see why my mother says, never again.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 11):
How daring of me to '' bother '' her with a question...Lol.


I felt like Oliver Twist "could you please, pretty please weigh my bags and put it on your airplane". Once passed the two grumpy ladies at check-in and immigration, everyone else was all smiles and very helpful.

One finally word about Jamaican hospitality. When I landed my bank had put a hold on my credit card and requested I call them before they would authorise the transaction. Only problem was that at the time it was 2am in the UK and there telephone banking service is not 24hrs and does not open till 8am. The staff at the hire car company, found me a hotel with available rooms, then drove me to the hotel and picked me up the next morning. Now that is good service and makes it worth paying their inflated airport prices.

Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 10):
If you don't ask where your scones have got to they won't be wasted, someone will be eating them. It might be me

This is quickly turning in to "scone gate". The renowned British tabloid, The Sun, would have a field day with this story; that is if they were having a particularly slow news day. I can see the headline now "shameless bongodog1964, eat my scones, full story on pages 2, 3, 4, 8 and 12 plus exclusive interview with bongodog's missus, revealing his bacon butty cravings".


User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

Thanks for sharing, I have such a fondness for that BACW seat and find it absolutely brilliant for sleeping. I still cannot believe what they serve for breakfast in Club these days, but then this isn't the 2000s anymore...


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User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11567 times:

Quoting A340600 (Reply 13):
I still cannot believe what they serve for breakfast in Club these days, but then this isn't the 2000s anymore...

I've commented before and I will comment again, it's bizarre that BA serve an inferior breakfast to a Club World passenger on a transatlantic flight, to that served to an economy passenger flying on a UK domestic route.


User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3217 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11099 times:

Hi, thanks for the report. Enjoyed the pics, would have liked to see a menu thou.
The upper deck on a 747 is great but as you say starting to look a bit worn,not as bad as the 767 cabin,awful.  Wow!

Loved the beech pictures,great place to retire to.
On arrival that immigration line is terrible.  
Thanks for sharing.



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11081 times:

BA food even in Y is excellent, unlike American which is really the pits.

However I prefer the 32" legroom on AA vs. BA at 31."


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10889 times:

Hey

Great TR thanks for sharing it with us.MBJ looks fantastic, I've been there once but I was still very young.

AA's new F looks splendid as well on the 737.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10887 times:

Quoting A340600 (Reply 13):
I still cannot believe what they serve for breakfast in Club these days, but then this isn't the 2000s anymore..

Breakfast is the one meal where you are not exactly overwhelmed. It is very ordinary, it could do with some pastries (croissants, danish etc) a yogurt and definitely some more fruits.

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 15):
Loved the beech pictures,great place to retire to.

Negril is known as sin city so you may want to retire to somewhere more tranquil, like Ocho Rios or the very refined Mandeville. Normally the sea in Negril is crystal blue and dead calm but the passage of tropical storm Isaacs had led to some large waves when I visited.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 16):
BA food even in Y is excellent

Never flown AA in coach but I have to vouch for the scrumptiousness of BA's food in Y, which has come a long way from the days of boiled chicken. The meals are reflective of the destination unlike say Virgin Atlantic which provides the same meal to all destinations with the exception of Tokyo, and some African destinations.


User currently offlineilanbwoy From Jamaica, joined Feb 2009, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10611 times:

Jm2....nice report. I just came back from London where i went for the Olympics and got 2 things off my bucket list. 1 being the u/d of a 747-400 and also flying a 772. I chose Ba as they had a deal on for the olympics to travel club world. Fyi, the parmesan crusted beef is excellent. Thats what i chose on the way over from Chicago to Lhr. I forgot what i had on the way back to Atl. My beef with the 747 was that my video screen In 61A on Gcivc was unable to stay in the unlocked position so i could watch it during flight. It kept moving so i had to watch it at an angle. The set up BA uses in club is easy to navigate in terms of getting up n not disturbing your seatmate IMO. As long as 1 can navigate stepping diagonally when getting up from the window seat then life is good in club world. I originally thought 2-4-2 was going to be cramped, but was pleasantly surprised when i saw the space. Of course i would not want to be in the middle of the batch of 4...lol. The best part of the window seat to me is experiencing the take off backwards. Its even cooler on the upper deck as you really get a better sense of the take off angle when the plane rotates. Anyways, not intending to hijack your thread. If i had the time and patience, maybe i should do a trip report of my own.

On another note, looks like you had a good trip to yard. You drove from end to end. Long time i haven't seen blue lagoon villas. You make me want to take a trip home now.

Nice report. 1 love bredren.


User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10496 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 17):
Great TR thanks for sharing it with us

Any time

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 19):
The best part of the window seat to me is experiencing the take off backwards.

Yeah this is a weird sensation and not one that I know if I like but the best part of being upstairs is having 4 windows to yourself.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 19):
You drove from end to end. Long time i haven't seen blue lagoon villas. You make me want to take a trip home now.

The Blue Lagoons is awesome and is a place I have always wanted to go and I don't know how often I will go back because it takes some 4hrs to get there from where I was in Mandeville. It is also, like most things in Portland not overly developed. I saw no recognisable tourists there but then it was off season and a lot of places were under renovation.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 19):
My beef with the 747 was that my video screen In 61A on Gcivc was unable to stay in the unlocked position so i could watch it during flight.

The systems 5 years old so it is inevitable that these little creaking problems should come along. As the two window seats are linked, you will feel the effects of your neighbour moving around, stabbing the touchscreen, especially if they are the heavy handed type. Truth be told I don't really take too much advantage of the onboard entertainment. Its eat, drink, sleep. What I enjoy the most about Club World is the personal space and time to oneself.

If I was to suggest some improvements for BA it would be to the headset, the amenities kit and some USB plugs to charge stuff and more Top Gear shows.


User currently offlineklemmi85 From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10344 times:

Do you have the reg of the 207 outbound?

I'm flying to MIA next year in june and I'm not quite sure if it was a good decision to go for the 744 UD because from all kinds of sources I hear the 744s interior seems to almost fall apart?


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10253 times:

Quoting JM02 (Reply 20):
If I was to suggest some improvements for BA it would be to the headset, the amenities kit and some USB plugs to charge stuff and more Top Gear shows.

USB plugs and more programmes are on the way for some. On all the 773's and being gradually fitted to the early 772's. Got them on G-VIIK last month.

Quoting klemmi85 (Reply 21):
I'm flying to MIA next year in june and I'm not quite sure if it was a good decision to go for the 744 UD because from all kinds of sources I hear the 744s interior seems to almost fall apart?

Its just a case of pot luck, if you get a plane which has had a recent D check it all looks sparkling new, close to a D check and its grubby in the recesses to say the least.


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