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Delta To São Paulo: Y Class (pics)  
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13634 times:

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Disclaimer: This TR is a bit more haphazard/less organized than some of my other ones, but is primarily designed to provide some insight on the Y experience (comfort/amenities/processing, etc) that one can expect when flying on a US carrier to deep South America. Noticeably, there is a large absence of trip reports on such sectors.

Also, the added bonus is indeed some spotting pictures taken around GRU, an absolute playground to the delight of a-netters.

Background
In January, I had to travel to São Paulo, originating in Chicago. Ordinarily, I would prefer to fly Star Alliance for travel since I have elite status, but my options were fairly limited since the ticket was booked relatively close to departure date. The most competitive fare, with the best scheduling times, was on a Delta itinerary. Lately, I have been flying Delta and noticed their Y product has improved, so I decided to give them a try, long-haul.

Currently, Delta operates a daily flight each to its hubs in Atlanta, Detroit and New York (JFK). While the ATL/JFK-GRU flights have been established for some time, the Detroit to Sao Paulo route is relatively new. Without going into the hairy details of the drama that seemed to surround the DL LAX-GRU upstart, I believe that the slot was eventually transferred to launch DL DTW-GRU a few months later. Circa November 2010, it began with a less-than-daily frequency, although now it has gone up to daily service.

In the back of my head, I was aware that the DL flight from DTW to GRU uses an older 767-300 model, without the new interior enhancements. Unfortunately, the catch was, in order to secure the decent fare I found, I had to fly outbound through DTW on one of the sectors. A round-trip itinerary via ATL and JFK, both of which fly to GRU on the 767-400 (which DOES have the new interiors, including a PTV) priced out way higher. PTV’s are generally the deal-breaker for me on long-haul flights, if I am in Y. I was willing to settle forgoing the option for half the journey.

Nevertheless, I managed to get “creative” with the booking engine and secured a return flight via ATL for the same price, knowing the 767-400 series aircraft used on the return route would have the better in-flight product offering. Any routing through JFK was completely out of the question.

Outbound Journey from ORD and connection in DTW
Day of departure soon arrived, and luckily no issues with weather getting out of Chicago. Delta uses terminal two at ORD, which is both a blessing and a curse. The beauty of it is that security is generally much quicker when compared to using T1 or T3 with UA or AA. The downside is that the walk to the gate at Terminal 2 is generally long.

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Each time I fly on a CRJ, the more I realize I just cannot stand them. Anyhow, the flight from ORD to DTW is luckily very short and was uneventful. For me, it also brings back memories of summer visits to Michigan from my youth days, when I first flew on a Fokker F-100 on AA from Chicago to Michigan and was marveled by the views of the lake and flying over downtown Chicago. The landing at DTW was rough and the pilot must have braked hard, because it sent my water bottle flying a few rows ahead of me from underneath the seat.

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Anyways, after deplaning at the B concourse, I strolled through the beautiful McNamara terminal in Detroit. Funny, I had literally just walked through it less than 14 days prior coming back from SJU haha (hence my newfound awareness that Delta has upped its game). I had forgotten how pristine it still is. By far, the trendsetter for modern airport renovations. I still have impressions of the NWA brandings from my prior visits in 2005 and 2008. Amongst them, painful memories of tight connections resulting in missed flights to SBN back from my college days. So nightmarish  

I met with a friend in the Delta lounge in the ‘A’ concourse and proceeded to watch the Giants-Packers game (more like slaughter). He was very kind to bring me in as a guest since he has access privileges to the lounge. The one we went to, which is in the center of the concourse near A38, is very sizable. From a glance, lots of room in the TV lounge and separate areas for those who prefer to work/read or remain in quiet zones. Also, a bar area where you could prepare your own beverages and small snack items. In reality, very few differences from the United Club lounges (same catering and self-service options).

TR Proper: Detroit to São Paulo



Roughly 45 mins prior to departure, I proceeded to the gate area to make a few phone calls and grab a few snacks for the flight. I had heard that the route is still in its development phase, as most Brasilians are not familiar with DTW, but that seemed debatable when I observed that it seemed like 80% of the flight was speaking Portuguese, based on the passenger makeup and languages spoke.

It didn’t really appear to be a full load on today’s flight, but granted, this was before MLK day, so the holiday situation may have had some impact. In the gate area, announcements were made in English and likely a memorized recitation of Brasilian Portuguese made by the gate agents. The few American passengers on-board were called up for Passport/Visa checks and then the process began.

The good aspect of the McNamara terminal is that the plethora of space in the boarding area somewhat minimizes the effects of “gate lice” standing by the podium. Being a lowly mere SkyMiles frequent flier “member,” I waited until Zone 4 was called before heading down the jetway, fearful that the bin space for my carry-on was likely forgone, since I was one of the last ones to board (the older 763 does not have the refurbished bins that can accommodate extra carry-ons, and so space is indeed limited prime real estate). I ran into this issue back in 2008 when I flew Air Canada from Toronto to Santiago, Chile on a 767-300, and wound up having to gate-check.


At any rate, the crew was primarily (in fact entirely) US-based with the exception of one flight attendant who you could tell was Brasilian. More on him later. The flight was approximately 80% full, and I, seated in 23A, watched as the safety demo began on the overhead monitors as “Deltalina” appeared to make her safety announcements. The Brasilian passengers seemed enthralled by the safety video on both the outbound and return journeys, laughing at the funny moments, applauding at the end of the demo, etc. “Eu ligo para voce mais tarde!”

Now, back to the crew: as I mentioned, entirely all American-based except for one. At first, some what of a rough beginning impression. One elderly male crew member was barking at a young Brasilian teenager, who likely understood little English, that his bag was too large to fit in the overhead bin space. The banter ensued for a few more moments, but what was puzzling is that clearly, you have a cultural miscommunication going on here, but this particular gentleman was overly bullish in his approach and, I don’t know, it just seemed to come off as very “ugly American” in its demeanor. Situations such as these can be handled with a bit more professionalism - to avoid coming off as crass.

Now, the one Brasilian flight attendant serving my section was particularly exceptional. From the get-go, you could clearly tell he wanted to establish some sort of rapport with the rest of the customers, initially asking (whilst we were parked at the gate) for all the “PASSAGEIROS BRASILEIROS” to identify themselves as he cracked a few jokes and made some comments that seemed to get them all to laugh. Later on, during the flight, he was taking photos on his SLR and getting them to sing a chant just before our final descent into Guarulhos. I didn’t catch why exactly he was photographing, perhaps it was a commemorative flight for him, but overall he seemed to exude some sort of “above and beyond” characteristics that really identified him as a example of superior customer service, particularly in a coach cabin. I made sure to thank him for doing a good job as I deplaned, something I always feel that is important when I deplane.

At any rate, our taxi to the runway was uneventful, and fortunately free of a de-icing process, which (as I discovered at DTW a few weeks earlier) can amount to a painful extra 15-20 mins of sitting on the tarmac.

Once we were airborne, we glided over lake Erie and our flight path had us heading Southeast, over the Appalachia region and off the coast of North Carolina, trickling straight over the Atlantic in the Bermuda triangle region, then making landfall around the Guianas.

Once we reached our cruising altitude, the first feature film came on, “Moneyball,” and the flight attendants began the first round of beverages. Alongside a snack of pretzels and peanuts, I did pop a Dramamine and ventured to explore Delta’s free Beer and Wine selections, ultimately choosing to start with sampling the wine.

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For starters, the wine came out of a boxed carton. Not to sound judgmental, but in my opinion, that is particularly tacky. Secondly (and I was asking in Portuguese, so perhaps this could have been also lost in translation) but it seemed like the wine was classified as “French” or “American” almost as though I was ordering coffee? So without really asking for clarification, I went along with the “French” option, which turned out to be a pretty mediocre Merlot, but hey, beggars can’t be choosers. I noticed the guy seated across from me ordered two Heineken's at once, so I don’t think the “one drink only” rule was really applicable here.

Anyways, like all semi-bad wine, things started to taste better as I “forced” it down, and not really in the mood to switch to beer, I ventured to go for a refill once the dinner drinks cart came down. The Brasilian flight attendant seemed quite happy to booze the cabin up, as there were definitely multiple rounds of the classy wine served to both myself and the two Brasilian men seated in front of me. Three (or was it four?) glasses later, I was jammin along to some tunes and enjoying my meals and alcohol. I was having a good time! The cabin atmosphere seemed lively and the FA’s were working hard and cracking jokes. Party on Delta!

Our dinner service options consisted of the standard, “Chicken or Pasta.” Normally a high-protein eater, I decided to opt for carbs to help me sleep easier, so I selected the pasta. Examining the contents of my tray, I saw that we received an iceberg lettuce salad starter, single tomato wedge, a quasi-stiff role, and an interesting looking, “Cream brownie” for desert, alongside accompaniments such as a stick of Tillamook cheese, crackers, butter etc. The main course had some pesto and alfredo bake to it.

I know I say this often, but the main dish was essentially like a microwaved TV dinner, but really it tasted just fine. The whole meal was quite satisfactory. Not the best airline meal I have every had, but reasonably filling and did the trick. The brownie, in particular, was quite sumptuous. It had an oreo base to it, unlike anything I’ve ever tried before. Dieting, for me, goes out the window on flights...I’m desperate to make sure I don’t go hungry and I get sleep, that is all I care about.

There was also a coffee and tea service after the trays were distributed. Again, all done in a professional manner. For whatever revenue Delta misses out on by serving free beer and wine in Y (which truly cannot be very much, considering I’ve had plenty of boxed wine in my college days which costs pennies in places like Spain), they make up in Duty free revenue. The gentlemen seated in front of me spent at least 15 minutes making purchases, something that marveled me.

By now, we were into the second film, “Crazy, Stupid Love,” a movie that I had previously watched on a SFO-ORD flight roughly a month prior, so I figured it was time to attempt sleep. The cabin lights were dimmed as the meal and duty free services had concluded, so I plugged in my headphones and did the best I could to get some shut-eye.

I did not get the most comfortable sleep, but the hours certainly seemed to pass by quickly and I woke up seldom to re-shift. I recall once waking up to see us passing over Guinea on the flight map, but everything was fine.

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Southbound flights tend to arrive later in the morning during the southern summer, so it was well into daylight once the cabin lights had been turned on, and opened up my window shade to see that it was indeed already light outside. The sitcom ”Glee” was playing on the overhead monitor, which I stared at in a post-sleep daze awaiting the breakfast cart. Based on my predicted timings, we couldn’t have been more than an hour and a half from initial descent.

The pre-arrival “light breakfast” service consisted of strawberry yogurt, a dixie-cup serving of minute maid juice, and a warm “egg mcmuffin” style sandwich, which had egg and a layer of gravy on an english muffin. I must confess, it was quite delicious haha. Probably a microwaved Jimmy Deans. Coffee, tea and water beverage service also followed.

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As a nice bonus, the captain came on the PA system to announce that, thanks to headwinds, our arrival into GRU would actually take place an hour earlier than scheduled. With that said, the crew scurried down the aisle to prepare the cabin for arrival, and as we descended beneath the clouds, the massive, urban sprawl of São Paulo came into view.

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Once on the ground, we had a relatively quick taxi to Terminal D departure zone, where all Delta flights arrive. Seeing that we arrived at the same time as the JFK flight, I knew customs would probably be somewhat of a nightmare. Not only that, but every major international flight from the EU had touched down as well, also thanks to the strong tailwind.

It took roughly an hour, but we processed through immigration control and made our way into the messy, chaotic Guarulhos airport terminal. We hailed a cab and were on our way into Villa Olympia.


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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13577 times:

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RETURN JOURNEY: GRU to ORD (via ATL)

Driving from the city back to Guarulhos was a mess. It took over two hours with bumper-to-bumper traffic, but we were braced for this anyway and left with plenty of time to spare.

Two of us in the shared cab were on Delta flights, and the other on American, so we all were dropped off at a single location in the American check-in center.

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Of course, on my inbound journey I had only observed the diversity of GRU from a quick glance observation, but I wanted to get a better feel for what the operational scene was like. It appeared that most of the European flag carriers leave GRU at an early evening point (such as between 5-8 PM) and the TAM-serviced flights to Europe left at later hours, such as post 10PM. Similarly, US carriers did the same. Interspersed amongst them were domestic flights on GOL and TAM as well as inter-South American flights on either one.

Needless to say, the interiors at GRU leave much to be desired. It reminds me quite a bit of IGIA in Delhi from way back in the day. Yet, I suppose people prefer it in this manner. It almost has an archaic yet historical component to it that makes it worthy of admiration.

My colleague had warned me about the awful check-in lines at the Delta counters, but somehow, they allowed me into the priority access line and the whole procedure took no more than 5 minutes. I was able to change my seat from the middle section to a window without any issue, which was a nice bonus  

Interestingly, Delta promotes their nonstop services to three US gateways like so:

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Afterward, we proceeded to the lovely buffet-style restaurant (forgot the name, pre-security) which afforded some nice views of the tarmac.

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Security and Immigration ex-Sao Paulo was fortunately a fairly painless process. Now, the terminal conditions airside are a different story. Immediately upon clearing security, you must pass through a Duty Free store in T2 which is an absolute zoo.

I made sure to snag some Brasilian coffee at Duty Free to bring back with me to the States. The Delta boarding gates at GRU are a complete disaster - and the DL ground staff at GRU were fairly helpless at attempting to maintain order and civility during the process. Per usual, passengers were subjected to “additional security screening” inside the jetway - typical protocol for US-bound flights from other continents.

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Once on-board, I relaxed in my window seat, grateful for the 2-seat configuration and the PTV in front of me. Just as before, the Brazilian passengers all seemed delighted by the Delta safety video. A large portion of this flight were definitely made up of Brasilian pax heading to points all over the US for summer holidays.

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The taxi time was bearable and we soon lifted off, affording some decent views of GRU. Since this was a fairly late departure, the crew wasted no time in getting the catering out of the way.

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Unfortunately, this correlated to a rather unimpressive display for PAX seated in Y. For starters, the first meal service was very harried. There was no first round of drink services, which actually became quite a nuisance. Most people had finished their entire entrees before the beverage cart made its way down to the aisle. The cabin crew seemed disengaged. Perhaps I had encountered a PMNW crew on the outbound leg from DTW, and that had spelled the difference?

I waited until I could have some terrible white wine with my main dinner, and went for the chicken. It was pretty ghastly. It wasn’t very warm, and came with the nastiest spinach. The rest of the items were nothing to write home about, either.

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Breakfast was even worse. We received a “sandwich” with two starchy loaves containing a (likely) artificial egg scramble, a slice of American cheese, and spinach (likely scraped leftovers from the dinner trays). I’ve had a similar disgusting “breakfast sandwich” on Continental previously. Word to the wise: stick with the McMuffin, Delta!

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Fortunately, time passed quickly on this flight and the value of the PTV came in handy. I was also exhausted from my week in GRU, so that definitely helped the sleeping component.

We landed in a chilly ATL and I geared up for a very wintry birthday celebration in Chicago. A very, very early arrival in ATL was luckily translated into beating a queue as flights soon began appearing from many points: EZE, SCL, LIM, GIG, JNB, DXB among many others.

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Conclusions

Overall, Delta’s US-Latin America services are just a tad below satisfactory. For the price points, definitely would not dismiss them in the future, but they were certainly hit or miss in too many areas to truly give them a solid rating. The crew members were either exceptional or completely blah. The catering, while obviously starting from lowered expectations, was pretty measly. IFE was good in situations when it was available; otherwise the best form of IFE is watching other passengers load up on duty-free after a lot of boozing.

Would I give Delta another try? Perhaps. Decent value and you get what you pay for. In spite of my particular standards on long-haul flights, I deplaned feeling neither jubilant nor excessively pissed-off, so I’d give Delta a 6.5 rating out of 10 for these flights.

Also, apologies for the gritty photos. An iPhone camera is not a DSLR haha.

Feedback and comments are appreciated. Thanks!

IrishAyes.



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User currently offlinexaapb From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 434 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 13374 times:

Great trip report!! Looks like DL is a nice airline, the last time I flew with them was in 2001 MEX-ATL-MEX on the 757 and I recall it was a great trip. I hope to fly with them from MEX to JFK next year.

Greetings.



Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5052 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13194 times:

Thanks for the report. Rather underwhelming, but then again, this is US-Latin America, and DL can get away with a lot more than its other competitive routings  .

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1217 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13128 times:
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Hi IrishAyes,

Nice to read another Delta report however to South America. I seemed quite impressed with the service on Brendan's flight however the food does seem terrible on this sector.

Quoting IrishAyes (Thread starter):
Now, the one Brasilian flight attendant serving my section was particularly exceptional. From the get-go, you could clearly tell he wanted to establish some sort of rapport with the rest of the customers, initially asking (whilst we were parked at the gate) for all the “PASSAGEIROS BRASILEIROS” to identify themselves as he cracked a few jokes and made some comments that seemed to get them all to laugh. Later on, during the flight, he was taking photos on his SLR and getting them to sing a chant just before our final descent into Guarulhos. I didn’t catch why exactly he was photographing, perhaps it was a commemorative flight for him, but overall he seemed to exude some sort of “above and beyond” characteristics that really identified him as a example of superior customer service, particularly in a coach cabin. I made sure to thank him for doing a good job as I deplaned, something I always feel that is important when I deplane.

Nice of you to compliment the dedicated FA on deplaning.

Quoting IrishAyes (Thread starter):
Nevertheless, I managed to get “creative” with the booking engine and secured a return flight via ATL for the same price, knowing the 767-400 series aircraft used on the return route would have the better in-flight product offering. Any routing through JFK was completely out of the question.

Glad you could experience the service with the seat back videos and still get the better price.

No pics of Sao Paulo itself?


User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12857 times:

Quoting xaapb (Reply 2):
Great trip report!! Looks like DL is a nice airline, the last time I flew with them was in 2001 MEX-ATL-MEX on the 757 and I recall it was a great trip. I hope to fly with them from MEX to JFK next year.

Thanks! Yes, DL domestic is quite nice. I flew them SJU-JFK in Y last winter and again JFK-DTW in domestic F. They do a great job on the short-haul sectors and I still think they are a very respectable airline otherwise.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 3):

Thanks for the report. Rather underwhelming, but then again, this is US-Latin America, and DL can get away with a lot more than its other competitive routings  .

Yup, unfortunately   Hope you enjoyed the pics of your favorite airport!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
Nice to read another Delta report however to South America. I seemed quite impressed with the service on Brendan's flight however the food does seem terrible on this sector.

Thanks man! You always set the bar high in writing TRs   I agree, the YCL catering on Brendan's flight looked much tastier. I'm inclined to take what Alex suggested in the comments above in believing that DL can get away with more on these routes since they aren't up against anybody. Whereas, on the TATL flights, DL has to standardize its products a little more with JV partners AF-KL and AZ?

Catering on my AF flight and KL flight can be assessed here:

SkyTeam To Europe: AF ORD-CDG-ARN (Pics) (by IrishAyes Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)

SkyTeam From Europe: LHR-AMS-ORD (Pics + Surprise (by IrishAyes Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
Nice of you to compliment the dedicated FA on deplaning.

Yes, it's something I always do when a crew member does an extraordinary job. Times are tough these days and the positive feedback is often times far more appreciated and taken to heart than one would expect  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
No pics of Sao Paulo itself?

Hahah, unfortunately, not this time around. Maybe next time!

Thanks for the comments!



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1217 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12706 times:
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Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 5):
Thanks man! You always set the bar high in writing TRs

That's very kind of you, but my reports are simple Y class reports but it's nice to know  


User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11541 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 6):
That's very kind of you, but my reports are simple Y class reports but it's nice to know

Haha, no worries, so are mine but maybe that will change soon for both of us someday, you never know!



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7558 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11500 times:

Hello IrishAyes,

Very nice report as always! I think Alex summed it up very well with his comment in the sense that DL does not need to work too hard in the U.S.-South America market. I wonder how much different (or not) are AA and UA in flights from their U.S. hubs to GRU and if there is any tangible reason other than frequency or O&D hub to prefer one of the big three U.S. carriers for flights to Brazil.

Btw, that cheese and spinach sandwich looks bad!

Anyway, thanks a lot for taking the time to write the report and for uploading it and the pics. I enjoy your reports a lot and look forward to the next one... maybe some insight on your recent LX flights from Asia to ORD?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinechicawgo From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11362 times:

Thanks for the TR. Very detailed. Sounds like you were not super impressed by their service. It's a shame you couldn't fly the UA nonstop. They generally use the completely refurbished 777 with AVOD throughout. Also, I've generally been impressed with UA int'l food and service.

User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11351 times:

Quoting chicawgo (Reply 9):
Thanks for the TR. Very detailed. Sounds like you were not super impressed by their service. It's a shame you couldn't fly the UA nonstop. They generally use the completely refurbished 777 with AVOD throughout. Also, I've generally been impressed with UA int'l food and service.

Thanks. I agree. Except that you know why I couldn't fly on the UA nonstop; you helped me with the booking!!!



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11328 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
Very nice report as always!

Thanks, Eddie.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
I wonder how much different (or not) are AA and UA in flights from their U.S. hubs to GRU and if there is any tangible reason other than frequency or O&D hub to prefer one of the big three U.S. carriers for flights to Brazil.

Interestingly, the AA flights via DFW and MIA were pretty much on-par price wise as DL. However, I've given up on AA completely and didn't think it was worth it.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
Btw, that cheese and spinach sandwich looks bad!

It was horrible.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
Anyway, thanks a lot for taking the time to write the report and for uploading it and the pics. I enjoy your reports a lot and look forward to the next one... maybe some insight on your recent LX flights from Asia to ORD?

Definitely will be writing on those, they are in the pipeline. I encountered an issue with the images on this one, hence the delay.

Thanks again!



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User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11327 times:

Hi!

Werent you supposed to travel the united airlines flight from delhi to newark recently...?
I remember from an earlier comment u made on my tr.
how was ur flight?
no tr? :

Great job on this one though... 

Cheers!



Be the change you want to see in the world- M.K.Gandhi
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11304 times:

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 12):
Hi!

Werent you supposed to travel the united airlines flight from delhi to newark recently...?
I remember from an earlier comment u made on my tr.
how was ur flight?
no tr? :

Great job on this one though... 

Cheers!

Hi Pradat -

Good to hear from you! Yes, I did fly UA 82 last month to DEL and a TR is in the works. Thanks again for answering all of my questions on that one  

Appreciate the kudos and best of luck this semester at Georgia Tech!

-IrishAyes



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User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11264 times:

Thats gr8! 

It s good keeping in touch with like minded people.. I hope you had a great flight..
I am still mastering the secret behind writing the perfect Tr but it is a lot of work so i can understand you taking time on the UA 82 flight!

Check out my latest tr though. Your Comments and Suggestions will be most appreciated!

DEL-LHR-DEL Y Class. Many Pics! (by planiac787 Aug 15 2012 in Trip Reports)

And thank you for the wishes!

Cheers!

Pradat



Be the change you want to see in the world- M.K.Gandhi
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1145 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10823 times:

The meals like on all US airlines look "dreadful." I can't stand the standard "lettuce" with those awful cheap deserts. At least DELTA unlike UNITED serve a fairly decent piece of cheese which saves the meal.

User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10434 times:

Hi

Decent TR, thanks for sharing! DL seems to be one of the better carriers however that I find the breakfast offering to be a bit poor.
Good job having the 764 logged as well.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10260 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 15):

The meals like on all US airlines look "dreadful." I can't stand the standard "lettuce" with those awful cheap deserts. At least DELTA unlike UNITED serve a fairly decent piece of cheese which saves the meal.

Yeah, but the cheese loses its value when you realize you can stock up on an unlimited amount at any of the lounges. I agree that it is tacky to see airlines like UA basically putting in things like carrots, Milano cookies and cheese as "courses" in YCL meals when these are really just snack items.

The brownie, however, was delectable (on the outbound). Even you would have liked it!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
Decent TR, thanks for sharing! DL seems to be one of the better carriers however that I find the breakfast offering to be a bit poor.
Good job having the 764 logged as well.

Thanks! Yeah, the breakfast was shabby. AC served a full breakfast meal on YYZSCL when I flew them four years ago instead of just a microwaved McMuffin, yogurt and juice. Oh well.

The 764 was a nice add   Now, I just have to get on to a 762!



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User currently offlineKDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8957 times:

Sweet trip report! I've been waiting to see a good TR of this particular route. Did you catch the tail number? I captured a video of this same flight in 2011 blowing a tire on takeoff from DTW, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66mlsFwB9I

Keep the TRs coming!



NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1090 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8686 times:

Very good TR.

Many thanks... sadly the product looked pretty lacklustre... I wasn't bracing myself for anything extraordinary though.

As in your DEL report - I am a great fan of the view of ORD you seem to get on take-off. I visited last year and loved the city. Must post my report soon...

Rgds

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8487 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 18):
Sweet trip report! I've been waiting to see a good TR of this particular route.

Thanks man! I appreciate the comments!

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 18):
Did you catch the tail number?

Ugh, sadly, did not. Boarding in DTW and GRU at night was not conducive to getting the registration numbers. I need someone to refer me to a website or some alternate source where I can find this info retroactively. Any suggestions?

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 18):
I captured a video of this same flight in 2011 blowing a tire on takeoff from DTW, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66mlsFwB9I

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. That's incredible!!!!!! Loved this video!!!!! What happened next?!? Thanks for sharing!!!

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 18):
Keep the TRs coming!

Will do, mate. I have a few more in the pipeline + some upcoming international "expeditions" that should hopefully be noteworthy and interesting  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Very good TR.

Thanks, man. You and GabrielChew set the bar very high representing the UK with fantastic TRs. Your reports to India are especially unreal. Good goes around. It is an honor getting positive feedback from you.

Many thanks... sadly the product looked pretty lacklustre... I wasn't bracing myself for anything extraordinary though.

It didn't blow me out of the water, either. But, it wasn't miserable nevertheless  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
As in your DEL report - I am a great fan of the view of ORD you seem to get on take-off. I visited last year and loved the city. Must post my report soon...

Aahh, yes, I have so many of these. I added you to my RM list. I'll eventually PM you at some point and I can photo-share more of them. If you're ever back in Chicago, please do hit me up, we'll go out for drinks, get sauced and talk about aviation.



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1145 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 8356 times:

At least DELTA unlike UA serve a piece of cheese which offsets the mediocre main dishes.

The lettuce and titsy witsy deserts offered by all US carriers are awful in my opinion. On TWA at least one used to get a decent starter and a decent normal desert.


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