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Russian Triangle ARN-TXL-LED-TLL-ARN On AB And OV  
User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 196 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

End of August it was again time for some flying ... and who doesn't like that? I had to events to attend. One in Magdeburg in Germany running until Sunday and starting on Monday morning there was another event scheduled in Saint Petersburg in Russia. So a nice triangle was on the plan for me. The middle flight was set quite early as AirBerlin was offering a late evening flight from Berlin to Pulkovo on Airbus A320. That would give me a new airline and two new airports as at that time the flight was scheduled for the new Berlin-Brandenburg airport. OK ... we all know the story so in the end that flight left from Tegel again - an airport I had been at before and of which I thought I would never use again.

For the way down to Germany I booked myself on flights with EstonianAir Stockholm-Tallinn-Hannover. Also giving me two new airports, a new airline and the Saab 340 I was hoping for since some time. Well ... this flight was not under good circumstances. First my ARN-TLL segment got cancelled and I got rebooked on a later flight. Leaving me with the situation that my TLL-HAJ flight left Tallinn before I even started the first segment ... dont those guys check for connections when they rebook you? I wrote an email to Estonian and got moved to an earlier flight out of ARN so I could make my connection. Some days later the TLL-HAJ got cancelled and I got moved to the flight one day later which would have made me miss the first day of the event I was going to. So I cancelled the whole connection (which got completely refunded by the airline) and booked myself another simple flight on AirBerlin ARN-TXL which was the only other cheap option at that point.

For the way back I could have taken some direct flight LED-ARN but of course that would have been to simple. I started looking in flights involving the Antonov 148 via Kiev but they had a horrible timing so I again looked into EstonianAir to catch the Saab. They offered a nice connection via Tallinn on Saab340 and E170 with good times so I went for this way. Aaaaand again the timechange came down on me ... the TLL-ARN flight got moved one hour ahead. Luckily I had enough buffer between the flights so the connection still worked. I was just hoping to finally catch the 340. That left me in the end with the following setup:

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map by GCMap

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After getting up way to early for my liking (3:30 AM) I went to Arlanda by bus and train to arrive there quite well on time. But you never know so I was happy to have a bit of buffer. I walked over to Terminal 2 where AirBerlin is operating from ... not giving me a new airport but at least a new terminal.



There was some construction going on inside but its not looking to bad



only two desks were open for checkin but the line was not very long so it was completed quite fast - no problem here



As T2 at Arlanda has not much to do landside I went directly to security in the hope to catch some other traffic going on.



airside of the terminal is even smaller than landside. Some shops ...



... and snackcorners are available.



Here the construction work was more obvious ... and also more needed ... lets have a look at my (still empty) gate.



The gate area has very limited seating but there was a sign in a corner that there would be more seating upstairs ... so why not have a look. My plane was still not there so plenty of time to explore the terminal a bit. Up the stairs ... and I ended in front of an empty reception desk.



A lot of empty seats up here ... not the typical gate-benches but more old-fashined lounge seating.



hmmm ... reception desk + lounge seating ... yes, this had been a lounge in former days. A Finnair lounge apparantly as this left-over sign told me.



Time to go back to the gate ... urgh ... whats that ... I know that bird ... you once replaced the ATP I booked ... seems they are still operating for NextJet.



And there is my ship for today ... D-AHXH will bring me to Berlin today ... my second flight on a B737-700 (first one was on KLM earlier this year).



They made a quick turnaround and boarding started only some minutes late (because the plane was also slightly delayed on the inbound leg).



Entering the plane I made the first contact with one of the best flight attendants I ever had. He was standing at the door greeting everyone with a broaaaaad smile. As soon as he saw my camera (big DSLR, you know) ... "that's some serious camera you have there!" ... smiled at me and welcomed me onboard. I settled down in 5A and was quite surprised about the legroom ... I have quite long legs but my knees were not even touching the seat in front of me ... WOW!



737-700 ... yes



let's look closer ... hmmm ... operated by TUIfly ... that kinda explains the non D-ABxx registration of the plane ... but then I am even more surprised about the legroom for being a tourist shuttle.



Pushback was more or less on time



We followed this America bound A330 to the active runway 01L



He was gone soon and so we could also perform our takeof in northerly direction ... of course me now sitting on the wrong side to take photos of the airport.



but ... lucky me ... we did a tight enough turn back south towards Berlin so I got a good overview of Arlanda



The flight was more or less following the Swedish coastline giving me some nice views ... clouds permitting of couse (whcih was not the case for most of the time).



The crew soon started their service ... and here we have him ... he really made this flight special. A great guy ... thanks a lot for all the smiles ... *thumbs up*



I opted for some salty snacks and a coke.



The monitors were down all the time (inkl. takeof and landing) and showing flight data and some Goofy cartoons ... A mix I was quite pleased with  

Passing by the Danish island of Bornholm ... sadly hidden behind many clouds



red and blue ... nice contrast ...



already well in the descend towards Berlin we passed the Polish coastline



Ehhhmmmm ... flight deck? ... we are flying AWAY from Berlin????



Well ... it seems they have some strange approach pattern these days and soon we turned back towards our destination and I got the typical view for the westerly approach into Tegel.



yup ... strange approach



Hello Berlin!



and hello Tegel ... thought I would never be back here again.



Well ... Tegel should work better on their ground service. We stopped about 30meters short of our gate as no marshaller was there to guide us into the parking position. Finally someone came ... we reached out position ... just to be informed by the flight deck that there is no one there to move the bridge ... Tegel!!!! You should do better than this!!!
During deboarding the typical chocolate hearts were distributed (oops ... I "accidentally" took two). Then we had to share a baggage belt with an Iberia flight from Madrid making the arrival area quite crowded.



I moved on to the bus bringing me to the train station and to my train to Magdeburg.

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On Sunday afternoon it was time for travelling again ... train and bus brought me back from Magdeburg to Tegel where I arrived some comfortable time ahead of my departure.



despite all the extra checks our lines at checkin for Russia (on left left) were a lot shorter than for the flights to Scandinavia (on the right). There were two flights to Russia leaving at about the same time (to Moscow and mine to St.Petersburg).



there was a check of the passport and visa before lining up for checkin. Then another check during checkin (including that I had to show the ticket for my flight back). After security there was another passport control. Aaaand another one at boarding ... thats a lot of controls before they even let you on a plane to Russia.
After passport control we had to wait in a small holding pen from which both Russia flight were departing. Thats where I felt the most that Tegel is on its limits and not really built for the amount of traffic they have to handle right now.



boarding started some minutes late but it would be fast as the plane was waiting on the apron directly outside of the door (no bus needed this time).



"Passengers with in rows please use the raer stairs" ... umpf ... who translated that ... at least the german text showed me that with my seat 20F I was allowed to board using the rear stairs ... nice  

some more red and white in the night



under the wing ... of course ...



... and up the raer ... sorry ... rear stairs



not everyone got the announcement about the backdoor so I had to fight my way against people boarding in front for seats at the far back.



also here the monitors would be down all the time including take off and landing



everyone in? ... OK ... lights off and here we go



There was a serious lineup for departure. I counted six planes waiting on the taxiway in front of us ... is this JFK now? ... takeoff was in westerly direction so I first only had some suburbs on my side



But the we turned north and finally northeast to St.Petersburg and I got really great views down on the illuminated German capital



passing by Tegel again (the bright spot down there)



and here's Berlin in full nighttime glory



Seating on this AirBerlin A320 was a bit tighter than on the TUIfly Boeing but still good for the flight time we had. The cabin crew was not as good as on the previous flight but still of the nice kind ... nothing to complain about. Shortly after leaving Berlin sandwiches and drinks were served ... no problem to get two drinks.



ETA looked somehow strange until I found out that apparantly they had programmed St.Petersburg in the wrong timezone so it always showed our arrival an hour early on local time.



Are you shure Tallinn is in the middle of the sea? Would I even get an aircraft carrier landing on my flights back home???



flying at night  

approaching LED



aaaand touch down ... my first time on russian soil



As we landed on the southern runway in westerly direction we had to cross the complete airport diagonally to get to the international terminal 2. At one point we had to stop and the captain made an announcement about the long taxi time and that we should keep seated. But maybe due to the bad english language skills a couple of passengers got up and started unloading the overhead bins as they apparantly thought we were already parked at the terminal. Only after some loud "SIT DOWN!!!!!!" announcements from the flight deck they finally did so ... we just had to continue taxiing with open bins ... luckily nothing fell out.
passing by the domestic T1



We got a remote stand in front of T2 and were unloaded into a bus and brought to the terminal.



After immigration by some rude russian officers and after picking up my suitcase I found the prebooked hotel shuttle waiting for me. I finally arrived at the hotel shortly after 3AM for a short nights sleep and a start of my working day at 9AM.

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After some busy days in Saint Petersburg and one day of sightseeing (beautiful city with horrible traffic) I again got a shared hotel shuttle back to the airport. Russia has some strange security as they do a first rough security check with XRay and metal detectors right when entering the terminal. Finally inside I had some time left as you are only allowed to proceed through customs and by that into the check in area (yes, that is after a customs barrier) when the desk opens.



That was scheduled for my flight to happen two hours before departure ... we were let through and lined up at the desk given on the info screens - the display at the check in desk was not showing any info at this point despite advertising for the new terminal they are buliding at LED (its about time).



about five minutes after the scheduled opening the screen showed a Czech flight to Prague ... ehhmmmm ... Prague is a nice city but not really where all of us wanted to go that afternoon. So one man out of the line cought one of the airport personell and we were told to line up at another desk as there apparantly had been a change. And there we waited ... and waited ... until about 40min late someone from the EstonianAir ground handling arrived and checked us in ... in a very slooooow speed (if you can call it speed).
After that I made my way through immigration and through the final security into a holding pen for four bus gates ... a pen that got pretty crowded soon as three flights were leaving from there at around the same time ... and its not especially large.



"Gate open" ... without any personell????



Well at some point the ground handling came and one of the airport security opened the doors as the bus for us arrived ... one bus was well enough for a not even full Saab 340. We got dropped off at our small prop ...



passing by another security officer counting that all uf us really were boarding the plane we climbed up the stairs ... of course with a nice view on the prop



on our (this time short) taxi to the closest runway we came by two Lufthansa planes stored here due to the strikes of the Lufthansa personell which caused quite a lot of cancellations during that day.



that flat brownish "thing" down there is the complete international terminal ... most likely the worst airport terminal I have ever used.



but at least they have some interesting traffic around ... UTAir



Rossiya ... the airlines with its homebase here at LED



During takeoff I got some nice view of some Rossiya and Transaero longhauls stored on the domestic apron. You can also see the construction site of the new terminal on the left beside the old domestic T1.



Props rule  

after appearing a bit rude in the beginning the lady in the cabin turned to be really nice. We got freshly heated muffins (yummy) and drinks like coffee, tea or juices. Some minutes later she even came around with some more muffins for those who wanted as she had more than needed it seems ... I gladly accepted as they were really good.



speaking about "good" ... the legroom isn't ... I was not even able to sit with my legs straigt ahead ... the space on these Saabs is shurely limited ... limited a lot.



hmmm ... I am not flying enough props ... love to see the engines



view of our small, worn out but otherwise clean cabin



during descent we got some hard candy



my first view on Estonia ... somewhere down there between the clouds



and touchdown in Tallinn



interesting stuff here on the apron



we got our parking position somewhere far away from the terminal between the cargo planes and some other small props.



now it gets really strange ... no idea what that is ...



during our busride to the terminal I also found Estonians albino-Saab ...



... and the blue sistership to our plane



Tallinn has a funny looking terminal ... it seems someone was a fan of triangles



We got dropped off at one of gates and went up to to arrival floor



as I was transferring into Schengen I had to go through security ... just that the doors to transfer-security were closed and that there was just a sign to take the closest house telephone and call security to come up ... luckily someone else had already started that so we soon had some security upstairs to control our handful of passengers. After getting controlled (the metal detector was hypersensitive and beeped for everyone) I was allowed to go downstairs again to the departure gates.
I settled down at one of the gates to check out the free wifi ... working well btw.
Finncomm ... ehhmmm ... Flybe coming in



no ... this photo is not doubled ... a second Finncomm ... ehhmmmm ... Flybe coming in



After being assigned to Gate 9 in the beginning we at some point got assigned gates 8 and 9 ... which are on oppsite sides of the building ... ???? ... In the end we were moved to gate 8 ... I think due to the incoming flight being a bit late.



Due to the delay I had some more time to look around the terminal.



I went to ask someone at the transfer desk to change my seat as I only got an aisle during checkin at LED ... no problem and I was moved to the windowseat directly beside me (as it turned out the aisle seat then stayed free during the flight)



lots of Estonian here ... surprisingly ...  

our new gate 8 for our flight to Arlanda



our bird to ARN coming in ... getting ready for a quick turn around and a crew change (the new crew was already sitting between the passengers and waiting)



hmmm ... here in Tallinn Lufthansa is still operating



After they finished the turnaround we were finally allowed to board the plane



The seat pitch was a lot better than on the Saab (but still not as good as on the AirBerlin flights)



our (now empty) gate at the triangle-terminal



more interesting planes seen during taxi (seems to be some show-planes)



another interesting plane of the Estonian Boarder Guard



... leaving Estonia again ... after a short stay



niiiiiiice wing  

it seems to be a very new plane ... clean and well maintained



Service consisted of a small biscuit and either tea, coffee or water (no juices or muffins this time)



looove those winglets ...



It seems there are some rainfalls going on over the Swedish coastline



passing over all those islands I realized that this is not the typical approach from the east



we were much farther south than normal more or less directly passing by Stockholm



Then we turned north and lined up for the new runway 01R (my first time oprating on that runway)



Welcome back in Arlanda



Some A.netters will remember those planes from our meeting



also here some Lufthansa planes were in storage due to the strike



longhauler getting ready



We again had to wait on the apron as our gate was still occupied ... by this guy



deboarding was quit fast ...



... and soon I was again connected with my suitcase



After that a short dinner at McDonalds followed and then a train ride back home.

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Conclusion:

Air Berlin: I was positively surprised. Much better service and seatpitch than what I had expected. For that price really good. I would just avoid any transfer at TXL (see below)

Estonian Air: Old and worn Saab, new and nice E170. Good service on the Saab, mediocre on the flight to ARN. Ground handling at TLL was good whereas the handling at LED was horrible. Also problems with a lot of cancellations and schedule changes. Over all not bad but I will maybe fly different airlines in future.

Berlin Tegel: Never expected to fly to/from that airport again. Overly crowded now with bad ground handling. I think I will wait for BBI to open before I fly to Berlin again.

Pulkovo: To keep is short ... the worst airport I have ever been to. A real shame for that otherwise beatiful city. I hope they finish the new terminal soon and improve things.

Tallinn: Nice airport (for transfers at least) ... maybe a bit understaffed if you have to call out for security.


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User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 965 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6266 times:

Hej, thanks for the TR!


I was especially curious to learn more about LED and doesn't sound too good, hopefully the new terminal change things.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Pulkovo: To keep is short ... the worst airport I have ever been to. A real shame for that otherwise beatiful city. I hope they finish the new terminal soon and improve things.
Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Russia has some strange security as they do a first rough security check with XRay and metal detectors right when entering the terminal.

I have experienced the same in Asia, HKT comes to my mind, also there you get checked when entering the terminal. It goes very smoothly though.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
it seems to be a very new plane ... clean and well maintained

This E170 is leased from Finnair, the seats still have the old AY colors. Estonian Air has four E170's from AY, around seven years old each.


User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5761 times:

Hi Phil,
An interesting trip report. Shame that there were cancellations and changes to deal with but it seems the flights themselves were OK.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
A Finnair lounge apparently as this left-over sign told me.

Not a sign that our friend Jonas would want to see.  
Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Russia has some strange security as they do a first rough security check with XRay and metal detectors right when entering the terminal.

This is probably due to the suicide bombing attack at DME last January, which killed 37 and injured 172 people. This pre-entry security is also seen in places like IST and other airports in the MENA region.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
now it gets really strange ... no idea what that is ...

One of the Let 410 family or a Let 420? The Estonian Border Guard operates the Let L-410UVP , if I am not mistaken.
Thanks for sharing.

Roy / Quokka


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Hi Philip!

Nice report, glad to see you enjoyed your flights and found a suitable itinerary in the end!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
we all know the story so in the end that flight left from Tegel again - an airport I had been at before and of which I thought I would never use again.

Haha yes, I was in that situation as well!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
airside of the terminal is even smaller than landside. Some shops ...

Yes, airside of T2 isn't very nice at all. Good thing they are renovating it.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
one bus was well enough for a not even full Saab 340. We got dropped off at our small prop ...

Glad to see you logged a Saab, and even one I have flown twice, ES-ASN. It was also the plane for the famous A.Net ARN-TLL flight in January.  
Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
We got freshly heated muffins (yummy) and drinks like coffee, tea or juices.

Same service I have received on my 3 OV flights.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
now it gets really strange ... no idea what that is ...

Like Roy pointed out, a LET of some kind. I flew one last year.  England And An Isle ARN-CPH-MAN/BKL-IOM-MAN-ARN (by deltamartin Aug 18 2011 in Trip Reports)

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):

After being assigned to Gate 9 in the beginning we at some point got assigned gates 8 and 9 ... which are on oppsite sides of the building ... ???? ... In the end we were moved to gate 8 ... I think due to the incoming flight being a bit late.

Funny, on 2 separate occasions in TLL, I have had some sort of gate trouble as well.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):

Some A.netters will remember those planes from our meeting

Oh yes.  

Martin


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

Hi photophil


Great trip report, thanks for sharing it with us!
I flew AB from STR to TXL back in the Berlin meeting in june and was very impressed as well!
TXL is indeed not one of the best places to transfer in!
Nice to see you managed to get ES-ASN on the LED-TLL sector, the famous A.net plane!

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5475 times:

Hiya Phil,

Are you trying to break some speed records here or something?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Estonian Air rescheduling! Now get used to it!

Air Berlin looks the same as always, although shame about the downgrade of the service on the ARN-TXL leg. For various reasons it's been over a year since I last flew with them, but now I've got some bookings for February.

Good that you got out of Russia alive.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
an airport I had been at before and of which I thought I would never use again.

Never say never. Especially considering the latest news about Tegel...

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
dont those guys check for connections when they rebook you?

Well they probably do it automatically.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
I wrote an email to Estonian and got moved to an earlier flight out of ARN so I could make my connection.

They actually answered and reacted to your email?! Stop the press! These days they ignore my (numerous) rebooking requests, forcing me to call their call centre which is okay but I still hate calling in.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
which was the only other cheap option at that point.

Now I'm confused - you were traveling for work, weren't you? So what does cheapness have to do it with then? Simply book whatever tickles your fancy since you're not paying for it yourself - this is what I always did!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
hmmm ... reception desk + lounge seating ... yes, this had been a lounge in former days. A Finnair lounge apparantly as this left-over sign told me.

Yes, lots of memories from lots of hours spent in that lounge. You even see the door (open!) to the "inner sanctum" in your photo. That used to be a separate room for serious status metal holders who were given a special access code to open the door. Apparently the only difference to the hoi polloi side was the availability of hard liquor and better quality wines instead of the horrible generic tap piss.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Time to go back to the gate ... urgh ... whats that ... I know that bird ... you once replaced the ATP I booked ... seems they are still operating for NextJet.

Hmm, maybe I should really try to catch a flight with it. Too bad I've been to GEV already.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
The monitors were down all the time (inkl. takeof and landing) and showing flight data and some Goofy cartoons ... A mix I was quite pleased with

Well I'd prefer the airshow instead of watching those tired Disney pieces over and over.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
thats a lot of controls before they even let you on a plane to Russia.

Get used to it. It'll get worse in Russia.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Are you shure Tallinn is in the middle of the sea? Would I even get an aircraft carrier landing on my flights back home???

They still haven't updated the airshow I see. This used to be a regular feature on my trip reports featuring AB and HEL.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
But maybe due to the bad english language skills a couple of passengers got up and started unloading the overhead bins as they apparantly thought we were already parked at the terminal.

It has nothing to do with the lack of English skills. Simply SOP in these countries. You see it everywhere.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
"Gate open" ... without any personell????

Hmm, this looks just like the Pulkovo airport I remember from 1987 or so...

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
We got freshly heated muffins (yummy) and drinks like coffee, tea or juices. Some minutes later she even came around with some more muffins for those who wanted as she had more than needed it seems ...

Well in two weeks those muffins will have to be paid for so you should've grabbed a few now!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
now it gets really strange ... no idea what that is ...

Never seen a Turbolet before?

The answer is in the FIDS shot you posted a bit later - this is a Turbolet of the Lithuanian carrier Baltia Avia or something like that which is operating the Kärdla flight in your picture for Avies since most of their Jetstreams are leeching the money off the Swedish taxpayer (hey that's you!) by operating PSO routes in Sweden.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
during our busride to the terminal I also found Estonians albino-Saab ...

Hmm, did you happen to catch the registration? Is this ES-ASO post-Hockeybird livery?

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
it seems to be a very new plane ... clean and well maintained

New it ain't. Well relatively new for OV, but these birds have seen a lot of action with Finnair. That interior is the good old Finnair interior.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Then we turned north and lined up for the new runway 01R (my first time oprating on that runway)

Congrats, this is hands down my favorite approach into Arlanda. Depending on the weather you get some amazing views of downtown STHLM if sitting on the left hand side. I remember one early morning approach there in November (or December?) when the whole city was covered in fog apart from the tops of a couple of tall buildings - a really interesting sight!


User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5135 times:

Quoting HELyes (Reply 1):
This E170 is leased from Finnair, the seats still have the old AY colors. Estonian Air has four E170's from AY, around seven years old each.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
New it ain't. Well relatively new for OV, but these birds have seen a lot of action with Finnair. That interior is the good old Finnair interior.

OK ... not that new ... but then very well taken care of ... immaculate interior

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 2):
One of the Let 410 family or a Let 420? The Estonian Border Guard operates the Let L-410UVP , if I am not mistaken.

Could be ... thanks for the info

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Are you trying to break some speed records here or something?

hmmm ... not really ... I just dont have a backlog like others here  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Welcome to the wonderful world of Estonian Air rescheduling! Now get used to it!

LOL

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
shame about the downgrade of the service on the ARN-TXL leg

Downgrade? I really enjoyed that flight. Great legroom, great crew ... what do you want more

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
They actually answered and reacted to your email?!

not very fast but they did

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Now I'm confused - you were traveling for work, weren't you? So what does cheapness have to do it with then? Simply book whatever tickles your fancy since you're not paying for it yourself - this is what I always did!

Would love to do that ... but we are always working on a tight budget and you get nasty questions if it ends up more expensive that what one of the administration expects it to be.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Well I'd prefer the airshow instead of watching those tired Disney pieces over and over.

They had the airshow on in between some of the clips

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Hmm, this looks just like the Pulkovo airport I remember from 1987 or so...

I think not much has changed since the 80's

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Hmm, did you happen to catch the registration? Is this ES-ASO post-Hockeybird livery?

It is ES-ASO

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Congrats, this is hands down my favorite approach into Arlanda. Depending on the weather you get some amazing views of downtown STHLM if sitting on the left hand side.

I was on the left side and got a great view on Stockholm downtown

PHILIP



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Nice report and an interesting itiniary, thanks for posting!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
So I cancelled the whole connection (which got completely refunded by the airline) and booked myself another simple flight

So how did you get to your event in Hannover?

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
map by GCMap

A triangle indeed!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
not giving me a new airport but at least a new terminal.

Terminal 2 in ARN, only seen in landside. Looks okay from the airside area.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
I settled down in 5A and was quite surprised about the legroom .

Suprisingly good indeed, would not have expected that from AB.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
just to be informed by the flight deck that there is no one there to move the bridge ... Tegel!!!! You should do better than this!!!

Must be because of all the extra flights that the airlines scheduled thinking BER would have been open!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Tallinn has a funny looking terminal ... it seems someone was a fan of triangles

Looks nice indeed, also from the inside. And you got a triangle terminal on your triangle trip  


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1168 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4833 times:
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Hi photophil!

Nice report with some nice pictures, thanks for sharing!
Estonian Air seem to be quite "famous" for their rescheduling and cancellations. Nice to see you still managed to fly them and the Saab, still need to try them out myself.
LED looks likle an airport I will keep avoiding, and Tegel.. well exactly what I expected to happen once they cancelled the opening of BER, way too overcrowded. As you say correctly it isnt capable of handling so many passengers

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
we did a tight enough turn back south towards Berlin so I got a good overview of Arlanda

Nice overview!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1224 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

I used to fly a lot on the AF, AZ Caravelle's. They were great planes.

User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

Hello photophil

Very nice report, thanks for posting.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
For the way back I could have taken some direct flight LED-ARN but of course that would have been to simple.

Of course that would have been too simple!

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Tegel!!!! You should do better than this!!!

oh well, even before the BBI disaster TXL was not good...

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
egel is on its limits and not really built for the amount of traffic they have to handle right now

...and this was the explanation. Should get even worse with Germanwings moving from SXF to TXL soon.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
After immigration by some rude russian officers

Never had a rude border guard in Russia during my one and a half dozen trips there. Indifferent but not rude. 90% of them never even uttered a word...

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
most likely the worst airport terminal I have ever used

Agree. Fortunately the domestic terminal - while not great - is much nicer. But especially the gate area of the international terminal is a joke.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
our new gate 8 for our flight to Arlanda

Ah, nice....eh.... "gate"....  

Best regards,
LXM83


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 698 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

Hi Phil,

great report here with very nice pictures (really like the night pictures, well done). Sorry to hear about the hassle you had with all the cancellations and reschedulings with Estonian. One hears things like that quite often about them. At least good old AB came to your rescue and on your return flight you finally got the Saab. Cute little airplane, also still missing from my log.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
The gate area has very limited seating but there was a sign in a corner that there would be more seating upstairs ... so why not have a look.

Oh, too bad I missed that on my last visit to this terminal for my Niki flight. The area was very crowded then with very limited seating available.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
D-AHXH will bring me to Berlin today

Hey, I have flown with this one as well to TXL about two years ago, although from STR.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Ehhhmmmm ... flight deck? ... we are flying AWAY from Berlin????

Looks like some vectoring for spacing. TXL seems to get quite busy these days.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
Finally someone came ... we reached out position ... just to be informed by the flight deck that there is no one there to move the bridge

Funny, exact the same thing happened on my last AB flight to TXL. No idea why they are so unorganized.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
"Gate open" ... without any personell????

Nice, they already implemented self-boarding   Interesting to read about your experiences around LED airport.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
looove those winglets ...

  

CaptainRed


User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
So how did you get to your event in Hannover?

The event was in Magdeburg ... connected to Berlin by train both ways ... no problem

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Suprisingly good indeed, would not have expected that from AB.

I was surprised as well

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
LED looks likle an airport I will keep avoiding

I would not go there for the airport ... but the city is worth visiting and then you have to take that airport (or arrive by train or ferry or such)

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 10):
But especially the gate area of the international terminal is a joke.

agreed  

PHILIP



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4275 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

Hi Phil,

good to read your tripreport. You have some high quality pics inside, also good stuff you managed to do during the nighttime   

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
D-AHXH will bring me to Berlin today ... my second flight on a B737-700 (first one was on KLM earlier this year).

Wow, only 2 times so far. Well, good to see the legroom was good for you as well a good-moody F/A.

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
now it gets really strange ... no idea what that is ...

A LET L-410 Turbolet. I flew one very recently. So, since you like props, you might go to the UK and fly one?

Regards
Eric



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