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Terranova Transatlantic: AC A319 To St John's  
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
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Regular transatlantic flyers between North America and Europe will undoubtedly be familiar with the most northerly and eastern provinces of Canada: towns and cities like St John’s, Gander and Goose Bay are all well known, particularly in aviation circles, but usually for most people, it’s because these names appear on the inflight map from an altitude of at least 30,000 ft and usually because they are enroute to New York, or Boston, or Toronto, or eastbound to London, Paris or Amsterdam, blissfully unaware of the amazing beauty below that Newfoundland and Labrador behold.

I’ve always dreamed of visiting this part of the world, ever since I saw some pictures of the colourful rows of houses in St John’s in an old encyclopedia we had at home in Australia and the fact that St John’s claims to be one of the oldest city in North America. I was always fascinated by places and different lands, and vowed that one day, I would touch down in this part of Canada and see these places, especially St John’s, for myself. Now being based in London, that goal is so much more easily achievable.

“Terranova”, or to use its English name, Newfoundland, has a rich history and I knew I would be interested in exploring more, starting with St John’s. That’s how this trip all started. But you know what happens though sometimes, particularly if you have an addiction to flying - you start planning a simple trans atlantic trip and the next thing you know, you’re adding a flight here, a flight there, a multi stop flight here, a hop to Montreal, and day trip to Toronto... and then you realise that you’ve spent nearly all your holiday money on the flights alone. Well, that’s what happened to me and I wasn’t even feeling feverish at the time of booking!

This is the first part of my 2012 trip to Canada. By co-incidence there have been a few reports from the land of the maple leaf (and its airlines) this year from regular A.net contributors, particularly abrelosojos, MSS658 and FlyingFinn which certainly provided me with lots of inspiration. I ended up booking a number of flights while I was in Canada - covering a number of cities and towns in Newfoundland, Labrador and Quebec. This part of the report will cover the transatlantic sector and St John’s.

TRANSATLANTIC A319s

Air Canada’s seasonal A319 service to St John’s is unique – it’s the only Airbus narrowbody transatlantic flight from Heathrow and it’s the only Air Canada A319 flight to anywhere in Europe. Anyone who has seen the babybus parked over at Terminal 3 on their travels through Heathrow will have to admit that it still seems bizarre to see one of Air Canada’s A319s here, even though the flights to St John’s have been operating for a number of years now.

Although that may be the case, it’s still weird seeing Air Canada A319s at Heathrow. It’s like seeing United 767-300s in Continental colours. It just doesn’t look right.

This would be today’s route.



I was very excited to experience this flight, given its unique status and so very soon, the departure day arrived. Two weeks away from London loomed and I was more than ready to leave this manic city for new pastures on the other side of the Atlantic.

Sadly, no OLCI was possible for me even though I had received an email from Air Canada the day before advising me I could do so. I had a sneaky suspicion that Canada still views someone with my name as a potential terrorist on their “no fly list” – something the USA seems to have (thankfully) abandoned. That will teach me to have a common sounding name. Bugger.

I turn up at T3 about 3 hours before departure. Why? I just like to be early. Straight over to join a growing queue of people for the line “check in assistance”. A number of Air Canada flights were due to leave in the next few hours to ports all over Canada so the Air Canada check in areas were a hive of activity. Thankfully the line moved quickly and I sound found myself chatting to a very friendly young female agent, who explained to me that yes, my suspicions about their suspicions were correct and she needed to validate my personal details to ensure I was not involved in any kind of terrorist activities, financing or otherwise. I had pre-selected my seats online at the time of booking (and which could be changed by managing my booking) so I was pleased to see these were in the system when the BP spat out my requested seat for AC823. Wishing me a great holiday, I thanked the agent, and I was soon heading upstairs to departures.

You never know what you are going to see at LHR – that’s what makes it such an interesting airport for us spotters. Sadly today was pretty run of the mill – although if you’d never been to LHR before, you would have been agog at all of the gorgeous aircraft on their stands and around the place.

Might as well get into the Air Canada mood. One of 4 Air Canada aircraft on the ground at Heathrow when I was there.

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No, this is not DFW

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LEAVING LONDON

Unfortunately, I am unable to spot my little babybus anywhere so I wander around the zoo that is T3 airside and head to one of the (few) proper windows to see whether I can find her. Thankfully I see her parked – with her rear end to me on a remote stand, not far from where my BA 767 was parked when I flew to Larnaca back in May. Unfortunately for me, there was absolutely no way of getting a decent (or any kind of) photo of my chariot so I’d have to wait until we were bussed to the aircraft... or so I thought.

Hanging around airports is not usually a problem for me and today was no different. I love people watching, the aircraft coming and going, and all the activity of an airport. I could sit around for hours quite happily, which definitely makes me a sad individual in many ways. Perhaps I look suspicious, perhaps Air Canada was right to add me to their suspicious list? Who knows.

I get quite comfy but before too long, I see we have a gate for AC823 and I start heading in that general direction.

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Being one of the first there, I am surprised to see our A319 has been dragged to a proper jetway gate so in contrast to her rear end, I was now face to face with the aircraft that would fly me across the ocean to St John’s.

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And closer up – so I could check the registration later. Thanks Marc for confirming the correct registration.

Date: September 2012
Flight: Air Canada AC823
From: London Heathrow (LHR) – St John’s Newfoundland (YYT)
Aircraft: A319-112: C-GITR (delivered new to Air Canada in 2001)
Seat: 22F, Economy Class

A passport and BP check is done at the gate and then I get to sit down and wait for the boarding call to be made. The waiting area soon started to fill up although not uncomfortably so. It was interesting to see who was flying to St John’s this Sat afternoon – quite a mix of people really. Looks like some tourists, some locals going home, some younger travellers such as me (although not so young these days in my case).

Boarding is a relaxed affair – no scramble to be first on the aircraft. This would set the tone for much of my travels in Eastern Canada – everyone was relaxed and so very polite and chilled out. It made for a remarkable contrast to the hurried and selfish “me me me (and me first)” attitude that pervades much of London life these days. Sigh.

I am greeted at the door by a petite female Asian flight attendant who is on welcoming duty at the door. I then find myself at my allocated seat, just behind the wing on the starboard side. Getting settled, I soon discover that the flight is actually quite busy. By the time I get seated, I spot one of the other flight attendants working in Economy, and my first question to myself is: “When did Air Canada go ghetto?” This young guy (you can tell I am getting old) had a sparkly earring in both ears, a shifty looking expression, and looked like he would be quite at home in a dodgy club somewhere. He wasn’t particularly friendly to any of the passengers, simply going through the motions of preparing the cabin, and I am “pleased” to say that he managed to work that flight for the full 5 plus hours without once even cracking a proper smile.

The other 2 crew members however, seemed a lot more friendly, and less likely to want to stab me.

I had thought that as this was getting toward the end of the season, the flight may not have been quite so full, but by the time the door was closed, we were pretty much full in Economy and Business looked fairly well represented too. Good for Air Canada’s bean counters for sure. I end up having the middle seat free, with a lady who I guess is in her 60s, sitting in the aisle seat. Unusually for me, I strike up a conversation with her – and comment that it looks like we’re going to have seat in between us spare so we can spread out.

Hey big brother

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My seatmate and I then end up having a really nice chat during push back and taxi to the runway, which today, was 27L for take offs. Announcements were being made in English and then French by the petite Asian flight attendant. In between nattering away I did manage to get a few snaps without appearing rude (and she never asked me why I was taking so many pictures ). I wonder whether the crews of these aircraft were thinking “How the heck did that little babybus get here?” “What are Air Canada thinking sending an A319 to London?” “Gosh, loads from Toronto must be so poor if they are using an A319”!

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Not long in the queue and we are powering up, and commencing our take off run –passing the new Heathrow East/T2 structure, which has gone up remarkably fast (fast by British standards in any case).

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Lifting off for our 5 and a bit hour flight, and passing all the BA family down below at T5

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We then pass Windsor and it looks like Eaton Dorney, where the Olympic rowing events were held

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Before climbing higher and settling into our cruise, which today, would mostly be at 36,000 ft.

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INFLIGHT

Most readers will be familiar with Air Canada’s IFE and “EnRoute” so I won’t cover any of that, other than to say that I do like the Airshow map which I was able to watch for most of the journey. Air Canada are allowing passengers to keep their earphones on for take off and landing so long as they are plugged into the Air Canada system. In other words, you could start watching TV from the minute the IFE was switched on, right up to the minute the aircraft pulled into the gate at the other end. This policy is quite different to any other airline I’ve flown with of late, who usually have a blanket ban on any earphones for take off and landing.

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Seat pitch was good. I did not feel cramped in the seat at all.

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Yep, it’s definitely an A319


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FOOD AND DRINK

An hour or so after take off and there seems to be some action from the crew as lunch is being prepared. No menu on Air Canada in Y so it was just pot luck what would turn up on our tray tables. My new friend and I briefly chatted as lunch was handed over to me. The contents consisted of thus: roasted chicken and vegetables, along with a side of brown and white rice, a small pasta salad, a moderately fresh but cold bread roll, and a cookie for dessert.

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The drinks cart comes alongside soon after and I choose some white wine to go with lunch. All in all, quite a small little picnic – and having read jwhite’s recent report on his Virgin flights to JFK, it seems that someone has pressed the “shrink transatlantic meals in Y” button, because the portions being served on my flight very much reflect what fellow tripreporter, jwhite recently received on VS. At least we were being fed I guess. Having said that, the quality was actually quite good. The main course, what there was of it, is tasty and I pretty much finished the whole tray.

Dedicated to lychemsa, whose tireless critique of transatlantic carriers’ dessert choices remains steadfast.

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After the food service is complete, the crew then come down again offering tea and coffee. Given airline coffee tends to fluctuate between awful and revolting, I steer clear and ask for some tea instead. The tea is nice.

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We leave the old world over Southern Ireland and commence our transatlantic journey. The crew then come down the aisle with duty free items for sale, although I did not see many purchases being made.

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After finishing our meals, my seatmate and I resume our chat, and she tells me she has lived in St John’s for over 40 years, having migrated there from the UK with her husband. She then tells me she had been flying Air Canada frequently between the UK and Canada for several decades and had noticed a steady decline in the way in which Air Canada operates today, compared to those heady days of the 1970s and 80s. I am thinking that you could say the same thing about most legacy airlines these days but I choose not to interrupt her, and it was interesting to hear about how transatlantic flying has changed over the years. We then resume our solitary seated positions and I turn to the IFE and alternate with my music and reading.

AIR CANADA - 75 YEARS OF INNOVATION

As many already know, Air Canada are celebrating their 75th anniversary this year. Everything is branded accordingly and I am lucky to discover that September’s edition of EnRoute is full of lots of juicy historical details and information about Air Canada over the years. A very nice addition to my collection. I just love the inflight route maps from days past – how yummily retro and note how Air Canada did not have a single flight to Asia in 1971. Quite remarkable how the world has changed since then.



The bigger surprise is that I find out that Air Canada has also included this amazing wall chart showing the historical evolution, by airline and aircraft type and the years these were operated. Very nice and thank you Air Canada for going to such an effort. It does make me realise however just how old airlines like KLM and Qantas are. I remember when Qantas was celebrating its 75th anniversary, but that was way back in 1995. I subsequently then spend much of my time when flying internally with Air Canada trying to locate additional wall charts for friends and a.netters alike but they proved to be as elusive as an Air Labrador Twin Otter despite my checking multiple seat pockets on numerous flights!



The poster contains the website www.designparavion.com so if anyone was interested, I am sure they could reach out and contact these folks to see whether they have any more posters available.

Not much to see above the Atlantic today and our path was too far south to pass any landmasses enroute. Just a deep blue sky above. Pretty smooth flying, apart from a brief patch of turbulence.

Throughout the flight, I count at least 3 water runs being carried out by one of the flight attendants. Here’s a cabin view after lunch.

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And the odd contrail of a fellow transatlantic flight – we would however be turning off the beaten path much earlier than them, as it wasn’t long before the map shows us getting close to Newfoundland.

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Getting near to our destination.

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I spot the “hand behind the seat” exercise in a row far ahead of me and automatically think of WideBodyRoga - this one’s dedicated to you!



About an hour before landing, I hear activity going on with the crew and soon discover that a tea and coffee and drinks run is being undertaken, along with the handing out of a cinnamon muffin for afternoon tea. Nothing too glamorous but it hits the spot and the muffin was not as dry and tastless as it looked on first glance. I have a 7UP to go with it.

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Now getting closer to our destination, to remain glued to the window, to try and catch my first glimpse of Newfoundland.

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ARRIVAL INTO ST JOHN’S

Mentally revisiting a map of St John’s I had studied before leaving, I placed the airport and the runways and sat there trying to work out which direction we would land from. The crew spend time then getting the cabin ready for our arrival while fellow passengers continue to doze or read. The middle aged English couple in the row in front of me are getting chatty with the guy on the aisle seat next to them, who is from St John’s and is giving them all kinds of tips on what to do and places they should not miss while in Newfoundland.

Now I get to see land for the first time in just over 5 hours. This is where Canada begins (or ends)!

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Our approach takes us to the south of St John’s itself where we then head out over water again because we end up approaching the airport from the west. I don’t see anything of the City of St John’s sadly even though I am on the right side of the aircraft.

We make a couple of steep right turns over water - looks like a nice day down there

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before lining up for runway 11, which I believe is the longest of the runways at YYT.

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We have a smooth touchdown and rollout and then commence a relatively swift taxi to our gate. My first glimpse of the modern terminal at St John’s. Looks pretty quiet here this afternoon though. Few other flights at this time of day. We pull into Gate 1 and soon enough following the “ding”, passengers are on their feet and collecting their belongings. The couple in front are still being talked at by the local guy, but they don’t seem to be too bothered.

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Good afternoon St John’s



The petite friendly Asian flight attendant was on hand to bid everyone farewell, and thanked us, along with the cockpit crew, who had also joined her. A nice touch. My ghetto friend was nowhere to be seen.

Here she is, at the end of her transatlantic journey – thank you C-GITR!

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Being the only flight of any kind to have recently arrived our passage through Canadian Immigration was pretty swift. Entering Canada on my Australian passport was met with the “You’re a long way from home” comment from the friendly immigration officer, which led to a series of questions of why I was in Canada, where I was going to be and why, and whether I knew anyone in any of the places I was visiting. While not overly intrusive, I did feel like I had to have a convincing story. I made sure not to mention the number of local flights I had planned, for fear of raising suspicion – you never know these days. With that, he was convinced I wasn’t a threat to Canada, and so I was welcomed officially onto Newfoundland soil for the first time.

St John’s has a lovely terminal building – ultra modern and spacious and it seems to be right size for the volume of passengers using it. I ended up flying through St John’s 3 times at different times of the day and can confirm that it never felt crowded or cramped. My bag comes off pretty quickly and I am all set to head out and find a ride into town into my hotel in Duckworth Street, in downtown St John’s.

In mid stride, I am accosted by seatmate and chatty neighbour from the flight who then asks me where I was staying. On giving my response, she tells me that her husband was here to pick her up and they would be happy to drop me off at the hotel on their way home. Not being used to such acts of random kindness, I wasn’t sure what to say other than stumble out with the “thank you very much but it’s OK I am happy to catch a taxi” but she would not hear of it. Next thing I know, me and my stuff were in the car and she had introduced me to her husband who had no problems dropping me off at my hotel.

Being profusely thankful, we made our way into town for the short less than 10 minute ride. The previous week, I am told, St John’s was hit by a mini hurricane which brought down some power lines and lots of trees in the area. That was evident during the drive as there were clumps of tree branches and bits of debris still lying around. No trouble finding the hotel, I am soon saying my farewells and thank you to the friendly couple before checking in to the hotel. Kindness from strangers still does exist in small quantities in 2012 and I am reminded of it in St John’s.

I am staying at the Courtyard Marriott which is nothing to look out outside, but seemed to have everything I needed on the inside, and the welcome was indeed friendly and genuine – “ah so you’re from London, I’ve always wanted to visit.... Did you have any problems during the Olympics?” and “Welcome to St John’s – please let me know if there’s anything else we can do for you”.

Pretty good so far I think and I head upstairs to my room and the enormous bed – how I love decent sized rooms and beds in North American hotels. I was here - finally!

AIR CANADA ASSESSMENT

Air Canada provided a good flight across the Atlantic. Although it was an A319, it felt no less comfortable or cramped across the pond than if it had been a widebody, although the flight was a lot shorter than a standard west bound transatlantic flight. It was great to tick this unique flight off my list. I had a nice comfy, seat, a friendly seat neighbour, no screaming children around me (which is usually the norm these days for me), and we arrived into St John’s more or less on time. The quality of the food served on this short crossing was good, my only criticism was the small portion sizes. The flight attendants were a mixed bag, but that’s what you get with a large legacy airline these days. Air Canada offer a good product across the pond, and I’d certainly not hesitate to fly with them at any time. Even though there is no competition on the Heathrow - St John’s route, on balance, Air Canada offer a good product across the pond, and I’d certainly not hesitate to fly with them at any time. It was great to be part of Air Canada’s 75th anniversary year - and I still had more flights with AC on this trip.

END OF PART ONE


Eastern - Number One To The Sun
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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
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PART TWO

ST JOHN’S AND SURROUNDS

A quick review of the hotel’s facilities and after a bit of unpacking, I decide to head out for a walk. It’s only 4pm local time and still light outside, although the day is turning progressively hazy and slightly overcast.



St John’s maintains the title of the oldest English speaking city in all of North America. When discovering some of its history, it’s not surprising why. For centuries, it has been visited by seafarers from all parts of Europe but was claimed as a English colony in the name of Lizzie I in 1583. It was then captured by the Dutch in 1665, attacked 3 times by the French but retaken by the British each time. It played a strategic role in the American Revolutionary War in the 1700s by being used as a base for British forces, as well as again when the US invaded Canada in 1812 and more latterly, provided an airbase for the US during World War II.

One of the most accessible, but not the easiest of walks in St John’s is up to Battery Rd/Signal Hill which rewards you with panoramic views over the city and its important harbour. Some of the walk is relatively flat, and then it suddenly gets quite steep. An older gentlemen enjoying the afternoon light sitting in a chair in front of his house calls out good afternoon and mentions to me as I pass by that I still have a steep climb ahead. No joke!

I start to think this is better than a gym workout or a run as the road and pathway ahead does get a lot steeper, but I figure it’s got to be worth the pain in my legs to keep going.

Not long after I find myself outside the Geocentre (for more information about this place see: http://www.geocentre.ca/) and I spot two large-ish statues of dogs so headed off for a quick look.

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It all makes sense now. The dog statues are “en homage” to the origins of the Labrador and Newfoundland breed of dogs – which is I am betting what most people outside of Canada associate with the word “Labrador” these days – not the large tract of land north of Newfoundland, but the floppy eared, friendly dog who will eat anything!

Before making my way across the road and through a short path to the first of the lookout vistas -



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and during the following day, I go further up to the Cabot Tower which marks the highest point, overlooking “the Narrows” which is the entrance into St John’s harbour. The tower was started in 1898 to commemorate the 400th anniversary of Cabot’s discovery of Newfoundland. It was also convenient that Queen Victoria was celebrating her diamond jubilee at the time! In 1901, Guglielmo Marconi received the first trans-Atlantic wireless message at a position near the tower, the letter "S" in Morse Code sent from Poldhu, Cornwall, United Kingdom. Needless to say is that it get quite blustery up here - hold on to your hat!

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which provides some great views. I end up coming up here a few more times before leaving St John’s, including on my last night - watching the twinkling lights as the sun slowly disappears after a gorgeous day.

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I spend the next three days exploring St John’s as well as doing a couple of short trips outside of the city.

I see where Canada begins (or ends) at Cape Spear which is the most north easterly point in North America where I have a nice chat with a couple from the other London in Ontario about how much we’re all enjoying Newfoundland and end up taking a snap for them in front of this sign.



There is also this lighthouse here.



Some distances from this spot

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Gorgeous coastal Newfoundland scenery everywhere

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St John’s also gets a lot of fog at this time of the year. One evening, it was particularly moody

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I also get to wander around St John’s on the Monday I was there. It is bliss that I don’t have to go work and can just meander about without any particular agenda or schedule. I start the day with some coffee at “Coffee Matters” just up the road from me.

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Before heading out to see some of the historical parts of the city, including a park named after a gentlemen with the same surname as my great grandfather. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen the name with such a high profile!

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The park from another angle in the crisp autumn sunshine



The old Colonial Building is currently being restored – by all accounts, lots has happened here over the years as it was the seat of the Newfoundland government from 1850 to 1959.

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It’s hard to miss the Basilica of St John the Baptist which overlooks most of the city and you can see it from almost any vantage point around the city.

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St John’s is very hilly away from the harbour front, and there are rows of colourful houses all around the city, with one part known as Jellybean Row. These are perhaps the iconic images of St John’s that most visitors take away with them.

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Plus quite a few examples of public art - including this huge mural reflecting Newfoundland history and local life

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St John’s is definitely worth a visit, if you’re in this neck of the woods - people here are proud of their heritage and more importantly, are incredibly friendly and welcoming. Part 2 sees me saying farewell to the City of St John’s for flights north to Goose Bay in the Big Land - Labrador, via Gander, again with Air Canada.



Thanks very much for reading and please feel free to leave a comment.

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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6824 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25530 times:

Hi Palmjet,

great report with many nice pictures! Very good idea to try that A319 transatlantic service - I wouldn't mind doing so either, but I have already flown on an AC A319. Almost 5 hours as well, but almost entirely over land - SFO-YUL. But the map didn't work back then...

I have always been fascinated by that part of Canada, I don't know why. I really need to go there one day.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Although that may be the case, it’s still weird seeing Air Canada A319s at Heathrow. It’s like seeing United 767-300s in Continental colours. It just doesn’t look right.

Well said.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
“When did Air Canada go ghetto?” This young guy (you can tell I am getting old) had a sparkly earring in both ears, a shifty looking expression, and looked like he would be quite at home in a dodgy club somewhere. He wasn’t particularly friendly to any of the passengers, simply going through the motions of preparing the cabin, and I am “pleased” to say that he managed to work that flight for the full 5 plus hours without once even cracking a proper smile.

Ah, that's bad.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I wonder whether the crews of these aircraft were thinking “How the heck did that little babybus get here?” “What are Air Canada thinking sending an A319 to London?” “Gosh, loads from Toronto must be so poor if they are using an A319”!

Well, some might also say: "Wow, AC sends all-Business Class aircraft to LHR!"  

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The drinks cart comes alongside soon after and I choose some white wine to go with lunch. All in all, quite a small little picnic – and having read jwhite’s recent report on his Virgin flights to JFK, it seems that someone has pressed the “shrink transatlantic meals in Y” button, because the portions being served on my flight very much reflect what fellow tripreporter, jwhite recently received on VS. At least we were being fed I guess. Having said that, the quality was actually quite good. The main course, what there was of it, is tasty and I pretty much finished the whole tray.

The meal looks okay, but it's nothing special.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Dedicated to lychemsa, whose tireless critique of transatlantic carriers’ dessert choices remains steadfast.

Totally justified, a cookie's not a dessert!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The bigger surprise is that I find out that Air Canada has also included this amazing wall chart showing the historical evolution, by airline and aircraft type and the years these were operated. V

Very cool stuff!


PH



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User currently offlinevsmike From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 318 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 24989 times:

Neat report from an easily forgotten corner of the planet. Like you, I had only thought of these isolated land masses as way markers for TATL crossings - as well as large breed types of dogs. But I guess people actually live there as well, only God knows why. Point-of-fact: I think the area was settled by Bulgarians, during the Bulgo-Labradorian wars of 1982? But I could be wrong about that.

Interestingly, my father has kept breeder-grade Newfoundland ("Newfy") dogs for years. They are quite enjoyable and relatively docile dogs despite their girth. Same could be said about my father... but he's just an a-hole. Anyways... thanks for sharing this tale. I sincerely hope you didn't manage to fly any 737-600s intra-Canada...

Best,
VSM

[Edited 2012-10-07 14:26:33]


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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24678 times:
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Hello, Palmjet! What an awesome report!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I turn up at T3 about 3 hours before departure. Why? I just like to be early.

Me too! I always like showing up early, it gives me more time to plane spot!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I ended up booking a number of flights while I was in Canada - covering a number of cities and towns in Newfoundland, Labrador and Quebec.

Sounds like a great trip!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The drinks cart comes alongside soon after and I choose some white wine to go with lunch. All in all, quite a small little picnic – and having read jwhite’s recent report on his Virgin flights to JFK, it seems that someone has pressed the “shrink transatlantic meals in Y” button, because the portions being served on my flight very much reflect what fellow tripreporter, jwhite recently received on VS. At least we were being fed I guess. Having said that, the quality was actually quite good. The main course, what there was of it, is tasty and I pretty much finished the whole tray.

Yes, what is going on with the shrinking Y meals?! They're getting smaller and smaller! I think Emirates is the only airline that still seems to serve really plentiful, appealing meals that fill you up. With that small meal, I'd be hungry for more than just a muffin before landing!  

Great photos from St. Johns! It looks like a really nice town, and an interesting place to visit. I'm looking forward to the next part!

Best,

Matthew


User currently onlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1030 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 24633 times:

Thanks for the report. Really interesting... I had no idea AC sent A319 to anywhere in Europe.

Every time I happen to be in a window seat in a daylight trans-con to BOS, I am amazed looking at that part of Canada. Have you visited St. Pierre et Miquelon? It must be a funny place... the only remaining French territory in North America.... not far from St. John's.

Which other transcontinental Europe-America routes are served with A319/32X or B737? I am thinking of the famous A318 LCY-JFK and PrivatAir for LH/LX.


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 24427 times:

Hey palmjet!

How nice to finally get to read about your Canadian adventure. Personally I've been waiting for this trip to happen for a long time now, ever since you told me about it several months ago.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Air Canada’s seasonal A319 service to St John’s is unique – it’s the only Airbus narrowbody transatlantic flight from Heathrow and it’s the only Air Canada A319 flight to anywhere in Europe. Anyone who has seen the babybus parked over at Terminal 3 on their travels through Heathrow will have to admit that it still seems bizarre to see one of Air Canada’s A319s here, even though the flights to St John’s have been operating for a number of years now.

Even after you told me about this, and even after reading your TR, if I saw an AC A319 at LHR, my first reaction would be "WTF?". You just can't help it.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Why? I just like to be early.

I hear ya. I'm just like that too. I do this even if my hotel is inside the freaking airport.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
No, this is not DFW

Hard to believe!


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I love people watching, the aircraft coming and going, and all the activity of an airport. I could sit around for hours quite happily, which definitely makes me a sad individual in many ways. Perhaps I look suspicious, perhaps Air Canada was right to add me to their suspicious list? Who knows.

Sounds like *cough* someone I know . We a.netters are very similar after all...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Boarding is a relaxed affair – no scramble to be first on the aircraft. This would set the tone for much of my travels in Eastern Canada – everyone was relaxed and so very polite and chilled out. It made for a remarkable contrast to the hurried and selfish “me me me (and me first)” attitude that pervades much of London life these days. Sigh.

Ah, Canadians. You gotta love them.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This young guy (you can tell I am getting old) had a sparkly earring in both ears, a shifty looking expression, and looked like he would be quite at home in a dodgy club somewhere.

It seems like chavs have made their way over the pond and even into the aviation industry... The world is doomed.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I spot the “hand behind the seat” exercise in a row far ahead of me and automatically think of WideBodyRoga - this one’s dedicated to you!

Argh! At least his arm is not reaching far back enough. I particularly hate it when a person's hand occupies the space immediately in front of my face. On a different note, I like the fact that there is now an entire class of photos dedicated to me, just like lavatory photos are dedicated to Jonas and under-the-wing photos dedicated to Markus. I feel quite honored! 
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
In mid stride, I am accosted by seatmate and chatty neighbour from the flight who then asks me where I was staying. On giving my response, she tells me that her husband was here to pick her up and they would be happy to drop me off at the hotel on their way home. Not being used to such acts of random kindness, I wasn’t sure what to say other than stumble out with the “thank you very much but it’s OK I am happy to catch a taxi” but she would not hear of it. Next thing I know, me and my stuff were in the car and she had introduced me to her husband who had no problems dropping me off at my hotel.

Wow, that's so nice. There is no way I would have accepted this anywhere else in the world, but this being Canada, it's a whole different story.


Thanks for the very entertaining report palmjet! St. John's looks fantastic! Looking forward to the rest!

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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 24143 times:

Nice report Palmjet, and a nice insgith into Terranova! Looks like the AC flights are quite nice...lunch looks good.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
“When did Air Canada go ghetto?”

Ha, maybe it's just the guys from small town Newfoundland trying to pretend they're from the big city?!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The contents consisted of thus: roasted chicken and vegetables, along with a side of brown and white rice, a small pasta salad, a moderately fresh but cold bread roll, and a cookie for dessert.

Tasty



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 23920 times:

Hi PH

Thanks very much for your comments.

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great report with many nice pictures! Very good idea to try that A319 transatlantic service - I wouldn't mind doing so either, but I have already flown on an AC A319. Almost 5 hours as well, but almost entirely over land - SFO-YUL. But the map didn't work back then...

It's not often that you think of the A319 operating these long-er flights but it's worth remembering they do have the range are able to do these type of sectors comfortably. Nice!

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I have always been fascinated by that part of Canada, I don't know why. I really need to go there one day.

Me too! There is lots to see and do. Interestingly, one of the tour guides told me in St John's they do get a number of German tourists visiting so Newfoundland seems to be well on the map in Germany at least!

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Well, some might also say: "Wow, AC sends all-Business Class aircraft to LHR!"

Good point - let's hope that's what they were thinking!

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The meal looks okay, but it's nothing special.

Pretty standard fare but not fatty or greasy at all. I guess that was a plus.

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Totally justified, a cookie's not a dessert!

Fewer airlines these days across the Atlantic are offering the type of desserts that were common in days gone by. I think this is not going to change.

Thanks again!

Hola VSMike -

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Neat report from an easily forgotten corner of the planet. Like you, I had only thought of these isolated land masses as way markers for TATL crossings - as well as large breed types of dogs. But I guess people actually live there as well, only God knows why. Point-of-fact: I think the area was settled by Bulgarians, during the Bulgo-Labradorian wars of 1982? But I could be wrong about that.

I was so surprised about the strong Bulgarian influence in Newfoundland. I will be mentioning that in Part II!

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Interestingly, my father has kept breeder-grade Newfoundland ("Newfy") dogs for years. They are quite enjoyable and relatively docile dogs despite their girth. Same could be said about my father... but he's just an a-hole. Anyways... thanks for sharing this tale. I sincerely hope you didn't manage to fly any 737-600s intra-Canada...

I had no idea that was the case. Those dogs are huge for sure - must cost a fortune to feed! 737-60s in Canada? Me? Never!

Hi M

Thanks for your comments - hope you are well

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Me too! I always like showing up early, it gives me more time to plane spot!

Agreed - I hate being late to an airport although I cant recall whether I have ever been late to an airport. There are just too many things to see and do!

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Sounds like a great trip!

Overall, it was a brilliant trip. Hopefully I will be able to cover some additional flights I took in Canada.

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Yes, what is going on with the shrinking Y meals?! They're getting smaller and smaller! I think Emirates is the only airline that still seems to serve really plentiful, appealing meals that fill you up. With that small meal, I'd be hungry for more than just a muffin before landing!

Seems like a sign of the times, in Y at least. Thankfully I had eaten before flying so I wasn't that hungry throughout the flight. I think some airlines count on this....

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Great photos from St. Johns! It looks like a really nice town, and an interesting place to visit. I'm looking forward to the next part!

I can only recommend a visit to St John's - one of the friendliest places I have visited in a long time.

Hi SCQ83

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Thanks for the report. Really interesting... I had no idea AC sent A319 to anywhere in Europe.

Every time I happen to be in a window seat in a daylight trans-con to BOS, I am amazed looking at that part of Canada. Have you visited St. Pierre et Miquelon? It must be a funny place... the only remaining French territory in North America.... not far from St. John's.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, the AC 319 is a rarity at LHR for sure. I understood it was originally a year round flight but then got reduced to summer season only. The numbers must have worked because AC has been operating the seasonal service for a number of years. My seatmate told me it was such a godsend - as she ordinarily has to go via Halifax (backtracking) to get to Europe so the non stop flight to London was very popular (with her at least!)

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Which other transcontinental Europe-America routes are served with A319/32X or B737? I am thinking of the famous A318 LCY-JFK and PrivatAir for LH/LX.

There's only a handful and they are all premium flights - Air Canada is unique in that the A319 operates with normal J and Y seats!

Hi WBR

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How nice to finally get to read about your Canadian adventure. Personally I've been waiting for this trip to happen for a long time now, ever since you told me about it several months ago.

Thanks! You need to go - that's all I can say!

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Even after you told me about this, and even after reading your TR, if I saw an AC A319 at LHR, my first reaction would be "WTF?". You just can't help it.

Very true indeed.

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I hear ya. I'm just like that too. I do this even if my hotel is inside the freaking airport.

hmmmm that sounds familiar....

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Argh! At least his arm is not reaching far back enough. I particularly hate it when a person's hand occupies the space immediately in front of my face. On a different note, I like the fact that there is now an entire class of photos dedicated to me, just like lavatory photos are dedicated to Jonas and under-the-wing photos dedicated to Markus. I feel quite honored!

I know - it was only a partial hand. I know the position you mean....! Yes, all my subsequent hand behind the seat pics will be dedicated to you.

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Wow, that's so nice. There is no way I would have accepted this anywhere else in the world, but this being Canada, it's a whole different story.

Me either - being the suspicious and cyncial Londoner that I have become....

Hi Gabe

Thanks for your comments - I am getting around to commenting your recent Asia series. Thanks in advance for posting these so quickly!

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Ha, maybe it's just the guys from small town Newfoundland trying to pretend they're from the big city?!

  I don't believe the crew were YYT based - not sure where the aircraft then went on to - perhaps either to Halifax, Montreal or Toronto. I wasn't aware that AC had any cabin crew based in St John's.

Cheers - and safe travels!



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1221 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 23697 times:

The meals on AC are slightly better than US carriers; no lettuce as a starter.

I love BONTE cookies but it is not a proper desert. Interesting that AC now operate to St Johns. I knew about Halifax as I see it as a connecting option from NYC.

AC also offer decent legroom. However they lost my suitcase and never found it again. So it is an airline that caused me considerable trauma.

[Edited 2012-10-08 03:17:40]

User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 22979 times:

Interesting read there PJ. I noticed that the winglets and flap fairings have a green outline round them? Never seen this on any other jets before. Maybe something to do with this one going transatlantic?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, I am unable to spot my little babybus anywhere

I caught a glimpse of it landing around 06:45 that morning when I was on the coach in. Too slow to get my camera out though and like you, I couldn't see it anywhere from the terminal!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I am surprised to see our A319 has been dragged to a proper jetway gate

Seemed there was a lot of shifting round that morning - my VS jet was towed round from gate 21 to gate 1 about 45 mins or so before boarding. No idea why...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The other 2 crew members however, seemed a lot more friendly, and less likely to want to stab me.

Always a plus point.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
having read jwhite’s recent report on his Virgin flights to JFK, it seems that someone has pressed the “shrink transatlantic meals in Y” button,

So it would seem. Be interesting to see BA's offerings next year. Although that will be in Y+ I'm let to believe VS' Y+ offerings have had a similar treatment.

Looking forward to the next instalment!



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 22760 times:
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Hi Palmjet,

Great report and pictures, did enjoy your documented journey on this summer service.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This is the first part of my 2012 trip to Canada. By co-incidence there have been a few reports from the land of the maple leaf (and its airlines) this year from regular A.net contributors

- Indeed, there have been a few trips there this year, more so than usual it seems to me.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Air Canada’s seasonal A319 service to St John’s is unique – it’s the only Airbus narrowbody transatlantic flight from Heathrow and it’s the only Air Canada A319 flight to anywhere in Europe. Anyone who has seen the babybus parked over at Terminal 3 on their travels through Heathrow will have to admit that it still seems bizarre to see one of Air Canada’s A319s here, even though the flights to St John’s have been operating for a number of years now.

- Agreed, it still seemd odd seeing them sat next to their larger AC workmates, the 77W and 763's.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
It’s like seeing United 767-300s in Continental colours. It just doesn’t look right.

- Agreed!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
You never know what you are going to see at LHR – that’s what makes it such an interesting airport for us spotters. Sadly today was pretty run of the mill – although if you’d never been to LHR before, you would have been agog at all of the gorgeous aircraft on their stands and around the place.

- A the spotters mecca, except for us locals, it becomes a bit slow at times, at least for us reg spotters.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
No, this is not DFW

- It looks like it at times though!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I spot one of the other flight attendants working in Economy, and my first question to myself is: “When did Air Canada go ghetto?” This young guy (you can tell I am getting old) had a sparkly earring in both ears, a shifty looking expression, and looked like he would be quite at home in a dodgy club somewhere. He wasn’t particularly friendly to any of the passengers, simply going through the motions of preparing the cabin, and I am “pleased” to say that he managed to work that flight for the full 5 plus hours without once even cracking a proper smile.

- Makes you wonder what kind of system the airline has in place to monitor staff performance and customer service.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
we were pretty much full in Economy and Business looked fairly well represented too. Good for Air Canada’s bean counters for sure. I end up having the middle seat free, with a lady who I guess is in her 60s, sitting in the aisle seat.

- Result, an empty seat next to you on a longhaul makes the difference!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Unusually for me, I strike up a conversation with her

- Your a better man than me, I tend not to.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The contents consisted of thus: roasted chicken and vegetables, along with a side of brown and white rice, a small pasta salad, a moderately fresh but cold bread roll, and a cookie for dessert.

- Small but reasonable looking, one of the better looking Y dishes I've seen from AC of late.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
After the food service is complete, the crew then come down again offering tea and coffee. Given airline coffee tends to fluctuate between awful and revolting, I steer clear and ask for some tea instead. The tea is nice.

- Indeed, you can't do that much damage to tea.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I find out that Air Canada has also included this amazing wall chart showing the historical evolution, by airline and aircraft type and the years these were operated

- Nice touch AC!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 22706 times:

Great report mate! I really enjoyed it. That's something I'm looking forward to in the future, is to fly with ACs A319 to LHR. I've been to a lot of places in this fine country of ours, but I shamefully admit I haven't been to the Maritime provinces yet.

Thanks for the great report, well written text and great photos. Looking forward to your other reports



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User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 22656 times:
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This is fast becoming a great year for Canada in regards to trip reports.

Excellent report on a fascinating flight. Its odd to think of an A319 crossing the Atlantic but YYT is certainly a short hop. The on board product however does look more than suitable for a flight of this length.

I look forward to the next part.

Kev.



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 22334 times:

Every year there seems to be one country that has lots o trip reports - and 2012 seems to belong to Canada! Thanks for adding to the collection this year with this unique flight. It is indeed special doing these routings, and the 319 is quite the flight on TATL. Seems like your experience mirrors mine - overall above average product on AC mired by inconsistent crew. I have not been to YYT, but have it on my agenda. Perhaps, one day?

Thanks for sharing, and look forward to the next installment. Simply love the pictures of the locale!

Saludos,
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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27122 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 22162 times:

Great report James  

Lovely photos and great to go TATL on the A319 ! Would love to do that someday. Canada is great and after my trip back in December last I intend to go again soon .

Love the retro 75 years maps too ! They used to fly LHR-NCE with an L10-11 !

Regards

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Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 21900 times:
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Hi James,

Fantastic trip report with many great pictures!
Knowing that AC fly this seasonal route to YYT with an A319 its great to see a report on it! Its been a while since I have flown AC and they still seem to be doing a good job, although I agree that the food portion looks a bit small but that seems to happen with many other carriers.
Love your pictures of St Johns and its surroundings, Canada is such a beautiful country!


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I made sure not to mention the number of local flights I had planned, for fear of raising suspicion

Cant they allready see that in the system?

Looking forward to part 2!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21441 times:

Hi J

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Interesting read there PJ. I noticed that the winglets and flap fairings have a green outline round them? Never seen this on any other jets before. Maybe something to do with this one going transatlantic?

Thanks for your comments - yes, I noticed that too as soon as I sat down. Never seen this on an A319 before and I wasn't sure what they were for - perhaps identifying whether or not there was any ice on these parts of the wing during the winter months?

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I caught a glimpse of it landing around 06:45 that morning when I was on the coach in. Too slow to get my camera out though and like you, I couldn't see it anywhere from the terminal!

Yes, it's an early arrival from St John's - my seatmate was telling me that on the way over to London, the flight was packed full.

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Seemed there was a lot of shifting round that morning - my VS jet was towed round from gate 21 to gate 1 about 45 mins or so before boarding. No idea why...

I guess it's more more common than we think at T3.

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Always a plus point.

You said it!

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So it would seem. Be interesting to see BA's offerings next year. Although that will be in Y I'm let to believe VS' Y offerings have had a similar treatment.

Looking forward to hearing about your experiences.

Hi Mark

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Great report and pictures, did enjoy your documented journey on this summer service.

Thanks very much

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Indeed, there have been a few trips there this year, more so than usual it seems to me.

It must be Canada year from an A/net perspective for sure.

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Agreed, it still seemd odd seeing them sat next to their larger AC workmates, the 77W and 763's.

Yes, it felt strange to be boarding such a small aircraft for an overwater flight like this, parked near and around widebodies!

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As the spotters mecca, except for us locals, it becomes a bit slow at times, at least for us reg spotters.

Yes, the repeat BA Airbus fleets now start to drive me crazy!

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Makes you wonder what kind of system the airline has in place to monitor staff performance and customer service.

I am all for freedom of expression but I thought airlines generally were quite strict about their dress codes for their customer facing staff.

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Your a better man than me, I tend not to.

Me either - that flight was an exception. I think it was the joy of knowing I was leaving for 2 weeks away from everything in London and not having to go to work for 2 weeks either.

Thanks Mark

Hi vio

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Great report mate! I really enjoyed it. That's something I'm looking forward to in the future, is to fly with ACs A319 to LHR. I've been to a lot of places in this fine country of ours, but I shamefully admit I haven't been to the Maritime provinces yet.

Thanks for your comments. Pleased you enjoyed! A few of my Canadian buddies have said the same thing - when you live in such a big country, you always think that you can go, but when you actually live there, you don't. I had the same issue when I lived in Australia and now regret it - there are some fantastic places there which I should have visited! Go to Newfoundland if you can - it's great.

Hi FlyKev

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This is fast becoming a great year for Canada in regards to trip reports.

Thanks for your comments - yes! I really enjoyed your Air Transat experience.

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Excellent report on a fascinating flight. Its odd to think of an A319 crossing the Atlantic but YYT is certainly a short hop. The on board product however does look more than suitable for a flight of this length.

The product was indeed more than fine for the relatively short hop. I could have happily spent a few more hours on the A319 without any issues!

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I look forward to the next part.

Hopefully coming soon! Cheers

Hi Alex

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Every year there seems to be one country that has lots o trip reports - and 2012 seems to belong to Canada! Thanks for adding to the collection this year with this unique flight. It is indeed special doing these routings, and the 319 is quite the flight on TATL. Seems like your experience mirrors mine - overall above average product on AC mired by inconsistent crew. I have not been to YYT, but have it on my agenda. Perhaps, one day?

It does - I think there have been some great reports this year from this part of the world   Good on Air Canada for trying something different and it seems that the link, albeit seasonal, to YYT is a godsend for those YYT'ers who want to travel to Europe without having to backtrack to Halifax. Yes, quite a standard AC flight. I had a very nice flight on the return YUL - LHR with a totally different set of crew. Report coming soon!

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Thanks for sharing, and look forward to the next installment. Simply love the pictures of the locale!

It's a gorgeous part of the world! Thanks again



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21421 times:

Hi Philip

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Lovely photos and great to go TATL on the A319 ! Would love to do that someday. Canada is great and after my trip back in December last I intend to go again soon.

Thanks Philip - glad you enjoyed. I really enjoyed Canada as well. I am already planning another trip back again next year.

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Love the retro 75 years maps too ! They used to fly LHR-NCE with an L10-11!

It was quite lucky to be travelling during September when there was so much focus on their 75th birthday. LHR - NCE on an L10-11 would have been super!

Hi Brendan

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Fantastic trip report with many great pictures!
Knowing that AC fly this seasonal route to YYT with an A319 its great to see a report on it! Its been a while since I have flown AC and they still seem to be doing a good job, although I agree that the food portion looks a bit small but that seems to happen with many other carriers.

Thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed. I was really pleased to be able to tick this flight off my list of "musts". Nice to see Air Canada providing a link for folks there to London - which of course, gives them a world of choices for connections.

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Love your pictures of St Johns and its surroundings, Canada is such a beautiful country!

Thank you - agreed. It's a beautiful place.

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Cant they allready see that in the system?

I had flights booked with a number of different airlines and routes - not sure all of these would have been visible in one place!

Thanks again



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1746 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 21224 times:
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Hi PJ('s)  

A lovely read once again, accompanied with your signature crisp clear pics. This way of crossing the pond - in a babybus - doens't look half that bad actually. AC did provide you with all due necessities for an enjoyable flight. And let's just assume that the ear-ringed FA had a bad hair day 

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I could sit around for hours quite happily, which definitely makes me a sad individual in many ways.

No it doesn't make you a sad person - au contraire! (I know the feeling lol!)

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Well, that’s what happened to me and I wasn’t even feeling feverish at the time of booking!

I remember a certain report not too long ago about some special booking circumstances, yes  

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
and less likely to want to stab me

I'm sure he wasn't all that bad?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Lifting off for our 5 and a bit hour flight

That's actually not very long. But indeed YYT is at the very end of the east coast.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Yep, it’s definitely an A319

It says 'M' behind the type, any idea?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Dedicated to lychemsa, whose tireless critique of transatlantic carriers’ dessert choices remains steadfast.

Lol!

Sultanils



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5055 posts, RR: 43
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 20912 times:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Thanks for your comments - yes, I noticed that too as soon as I sat down. Never seen this on an A319 before and I wasn't sure what they were for - perhaps identifying whether or not there was any ice on these parts of the wing during the winter months?

It is reflective tape. You will see it on all "extremities" to avoid being hit by ground equipment. It used to be red, with the new paint scheme, green tape is now used. You may not notice it, but it matches the green of the door outlines and shadow of the logo!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
It says 'M' behind the type, any idea?

M after the aircraft type is in in-house designation for safety cards, it designates that it is an extended "over-water" equipped aircraft ... in a fleet where they were not always "over-water" equipped. Maritime, (but the French maritime, not the English one).

In the past there have been Air Canada safety cards for the B727M, B767M, A319M and A320M. Yes, there was a time when AC had some non extended over-water equipped B767s.



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 20902 times:

Thanks for sharing, I would love to do this trip. I travelled a fair bit with AC this past summer and was very impressed with them. Great pictures too.

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Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 20707 times:
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Quoting longhauler (Reply 20):
M after the aircraft type is in in-house designation for safety cards, it designates that it is an extended "over-water" equipped aircraft ... in a fleet where they were not always "over-water" equipped. Maritime, (but the French maritime, not the English one).

In the past there have been Air Canada safety cards for the B727M, B767M, A319M and A320M. Yes, there was a time when AC had some non extended over-water equipped B767s.

Thanks for the info. Now the 'M' makes sense to me  

Sultanils



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1096 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 20480 times:

Hi Palmjet,


A highly interesting TR on a route I think we are all quite intrigued by. Which begs the question whether EZY might try this out one time in the future, since they stretch their aircraft the long distance to Jordan and Israel.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The bigger surprise is that I find out that Air Canada has also included this amazing wall chart showing the historical evolution, by airline and aircraft type and the years these were operated. Very nice and thank you Air Canada for going to such an effort

That is a very nice collectible!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
On giving my response, she tells me that her husband was here to pick her up and they would be happy to drop me off at the hotel on their way home. Not being used to such acts of random kindness,

How lovely, that is a nice welcome!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
ST JOHN’S AND SURROUNDS

Beautiful (and I bet bleak in the Winter) area... many of my friends are based out of there on the offshore oil industry.

AC looked excellent (apart from the yob)! Although it confuses me why they put rice and roast chicken.

Cheers

Luke!



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 20421 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Great report about an unusual route. I had no idea that AC even flew it, let alone with a A319. It must have been quite a strange feeling, was it not, to cross the Atlantic on a narrowbody. I'm not sure I'd like it to be honest!

Love your photos of St. John's, particularly the night time ones from the viewpoint. On some photos it has a distinct Arctic feel to it, the weather contributes to that I'm sure, but also the landscape and the coloured houses.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I’ve always dreamed of visiting this part of the world, ever since I saw some pictures of the colourful rows of houses in St John’s in an old encyclopedia we had at home in Australia and the fact that St John’s claims to be one of the oldest city in North America. I was always fascinated by places and different lands, and vowed that one day, I would touch down in this part of Canada and see these places, especially St John’s, for myself

I take my hat off to you. That's what's travelling is all about, isn't it? My fascination with Greenland that began in my teens and I too have vowed to go there one day, before all the ice melts.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Hanging around airports is not usually a problem for me and today was no different. I love people watching, the aircraft coming and going, and all the activity of an airport. I could sit around for hours quite happily, which definitely makes me a sad individual in many ways.

People watching is just the best past time ever, it can keep me amused for hours  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Given airline coffee tends to fluctuate between awful and revolting, I steer clear and ask for some tea instead. The tea is nice.

I generally find that on board tea is never very hot, particularly on Swiss. I still order it though. easyJet do the best cups!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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25 roberts87 : Great report, thanks for sharing! Great to read about this niche route. Kinda weird to fly Westbound on a transatlantic journey that only takes 5 hour
26 FLIEGER67 : Hi, PJ, now that´s a set of lovely pictures. Been to Canada myself, but these part of the country looks like really welcoming, great. Also the flight
27 longhauler : I have crossed the Atlantic in a B707, DC-8, VC-10, IL-62, TU114, etc ... all narrow-bodies. The Economy experience in this case would be no differen
28 palmjet : Hello Nils! Thank you! It was indeed a very pleasant flight. Bad hair day? I think he had more than that! Good -safety in numbers Hmm yes me too - am
29 Post contains images MSS658 : Hello Palmjet Great trip report and thanks for sharing your first report on the Canada series It must be a strange feeling to fly the 319 longhaul, we
30 AlwaysOnAPlane : Hi PJ. It was great reading your report on this baby-bus transatlantic hopping macine. Indeed, very strange seeing a small bird from a carrier so far
31 longhauler : The Air Canada Public Participation Act requires that Air Canada maintain a pilot base in YWG! It is not really required operationally, so there are
32 Post contains images CaptainRed : Hi palmjet, thanks a lot for this great report. Really something special to do a transatlantic flight on an A319. And again Air Canada lives up to its
33 SR117 : Hey there PJ !! Thanks a lot for this report, and I do hope to see more of your adventures in Canada. Airports are very fun places, the combination of
34 ushermittwoch : Just beautiful. I'd like to go some day.
35 Post contains images aerdingus : Thanks for this, really enjoyed the unusual A319 T/A report & the unusual location. It's a wild part of the world I'd love to see. When I was in O
36 The777Man : Hi Palmjet! Very nice to see a report on this unusual route ! It must be an odd feeling to board a 319 when you know you are crossing the Atlantic. St
37 deltamartin : Hello Palmjet! Great report, I really enjoyed reading about your flight on this very unique route. Glad to see that AC didn't disappoint either. Indee
38 I39OO : Palmjet, thank you! God knows how many times I've seen Air Canada's 319 at Heathrow's T3 and dreamt of flying over the Atlantic on it... I won't proba
39 Post contains images akhmad : Hello Palmjet, Thank you so much for sharing your experience of this special place called Newfoundland (or “Terranova”). What a marvelous array of
40 Post contains images palmjet : Hi Marc Thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed the first part. It was strange to be crossing the Atlantic in such a small aircraft in theory, but
41 CYP353 : Hi palmjet, what a great report covering a flight whose performance I've always wondered about when seeing the plane at LHR! Special thanks also to lo
42 Post contains images longhauler : I fly the B767, so I have seen more than my share of the UK. I love London, very much, and if I could get there without flying into LHR, I would do i
43 Post contains images palmjet : Hi Tis Thanks so much for your comments. Glad you enjoyed. I am in the midst of reading your North Korea "epic" which I am enjoying very much - I will
44 Post contains links imiakhtar : Justplanes have just released their AC 319 DVD covering this flight. The preview is worth a watch. Can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0
45 nipoel123 : Hi Palmjet, Interesting report on an oddball route. Good read, always interesting to read about 'stanger' routes. And in the rest of Canada, particula
46 ghYHZ : Around 2006 when Air Canada split the YHZ-YYT-LHR service into non-stop segments.....the new YYT-LHR A319 route was on a strange schedule for a typica
47 palmjet : Hi imiakhtar Thanks for that - yes, I had seen this advertised recently. How timely! Hi nipoel123/Nick Thanks for your comments. It's certainly a diff
48 Post contains links triple7man : Just Planes has recently put out an excellent DVD/Blu Ray on this route. It is taken in the cockpit and you learn a lot about the pilots work, and wha
49 rampbro : Great trip report! It must be such a trip to see an AC 319 at LHR! I loved your pictures of St. John's; that's my home city and you have captured it b
50 palmjet : Hi guys, thanks for the further replies Hey triple7man By co-incidence, a friend of mine told me about this at the same time! Interesting to see. Than
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