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Toronto, Niagara And A Delayed YYZ-CDG!  
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
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Toronto, Niagara and a delayed YYZ-CDG!!


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Past reports in this trip report series:
1. To Canada? On Air Canada If Course! (by MSS658 Aug 31 2012 in Trip Reports)
2. Toronto City Centre? But Not On Porter! (by MSS658 Sep 23 2012 in Trip Reports)

Background:
January 2012, I was opting for a job with the Belgian railways but my French level needed to be opped quite a bit. If course they where many domestic courses or in France? But Canada has been a place high on my to visit list. So why not combine the 2. I looked for several different options in February and I could choose out of the following options..:

1. Air France: Brussels-Paris-Montreal/Toronto-Paris-Brussels A380-800/A340-300 and TGV train.
While the A380 is a new type on my list, I’m not fond of Air France at all. As matter in fact. I had some previous experiences in the past where I had mediocre to bad flights with them. So A No-ruler, Actually I wrote a report about them in 2010 from Boston to Paris CDG
A Short Hop On A Big Bird! (by MSS658 Feb 27 2011 in Trip Reports)


2. Jet Airways: Brussels-Toronto-Brussels A330-200.
This option somehow impressed me a bit, Jet Airways is a decent carrier and this was the only option leaving from Brussels Airport. However after a good search I found that Canadian domestic options where pretty steep. In addition I just deboarded an A330-200 a e few weeks prior on US Airways from Charlotte. You can read these here.
US Airways A332s, A Step Forward In The Fleet? (by MSS658 Apr 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)


3. Air Canada: Paris-Toronto-Montreal Boeing 767-300 on the longhaul.

I would like to go a little bit more in detail on this one here. Back in 2010 I was in Canada for 18 hours when I was trying to log the KLM MD11. Too get back to Florida I had the opportunity to fly on Air Canada from Montreal to Ft Lauderdale via Toronto. I was very impressed by the service. In addition to this the Montreal-Toronto leg got upgraded to a long haul Boeing 767-300 so I had the chance to try out their long haul hardware product. After this trip I was very much willing to try Air Canada on a real-long haul flight. You can read these past reports here
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)

I could have flown directly to Montreal on the Boeing 777-300ER, but the option with a change in Toronto was 50 Euros cheaper. The long haul sector was due to be operated by a Boeing 767-300ER. Up to know my most flown on aircraft type, however the Boeing 767 belongs to my favorite type as well and it was since 2009 that I flew the -300 version long haul I did not mind at all flying it again. The Toronto to Montreal sector would be operated by the A319 (see part I).

My next sector that was needed to be booked was my flight from Montreal to Toronto, there where multiple options available between both cities.

1. Air Canada/Rapidair’s hourly shuttle to Toronto Pearson equipment varies between the EMB 170 up to the Boeing 767-300ER.
2. One of Westjet’s 4-daily services to Toronto Pearson operated by the Boeing 737-600

Beside the lagoom of services to Toronto Pearson you can always opt to fly to the Billy Bishop city centre airport. One can compare it against the London city of North America. As we all know Porter operates an hourly schedule as well between both airports operating it’s Dash 8-Q400. Not long ago Air Canada responded to the growing competition and started flying an hourly schedule as well between both airports using the same equipment. The flights are operated by regional carrier Sky Regional. At the day and time of travel Air Canada’s fare was a bit under Porters I decided to catch the former one. However a 14 EUR fee was added to select my seat in advance. hmmm.... wasn’t expecting this from Air Canada. (See Part II)

After 3 weeks in Canada I needed to get home again, logically using the same portion of my outbound ticket. Unlike United, US Airways or Continental which gives you numerous options trough the European gateways in Star Alliance such as London, Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, Brussels.... Air Canada only gives you the choice between the direct Boeing 767-300 flight or a flight via Montreal (combination of the Boeing 767-300/Boeing 777-300ER). I personally prefer later departures going eastbound and since the direct flight only leaves Toronto at 20:15 (while the Montreal-Paris sector leaves at 19:55 arriving much earlier in Paris) I opted to chose for Air Canada 880.

Pre-departure:
Just a few hours after arriving from Montreal on my Sky Regional flight I was ready to explore the city of Toronto, the first stop was scheduled to be at the CN-tower. Some facts



“The Real Thing”



Billy Bishop City Centre airport, where I landed just a few hours prior. A Porter Airlines Q400 is taxing for take-off.


Another Dash cleared to go:



The Terminal



The Ferry in between the airport and the city



A bit of the Toronto Skyline:







Looking down



Close-up



Last sunlight to be seen just over lake Ontario



CN-tower by night



The next day I participated into a guided daytrip of the Niagara falls, a must see while in the Toronto Area. As matter in fact, last-minute I got to log another flight. Most probably the shortest flight in the log. Here she is C-GSZZ



Jumpseat for me today!  .



Niagara Dam:



The Falls from above



Over the US.Side, my only moments above the USA on this trip.



After a wonderful helicopter ride it was time to visit Niagara on the lake, an old but nice village near the falls.



Back at the falls, USA side seen in the distance.


Niagara-falls has it’s own modern town as well, you could easily call it Las Vegas of Ontario, I remained at the falls for the majority of the afternoon.



Close-up



As close as you can get:



After a wonderful day at the falls I decided to spend my last evening in Canada at a Korean restuarant! Interesting way of dining!



Times square in New York?? nah, Dundas square in Toronto it is!



Once I returned back to my hotel I already recieved an email from Air Canada inviting me to check in online for tomorrow’s AC0880 to Paris CDG. I checked and selected my assigned seat 32A.
The next morning I woke up at 5:30 and started to clear the backlog of trip reports: Quite funny to write about summer T-storms when sitting in the winter cold. At 8:00, a full 24-hours before arriving at home I decided to attack the breakfast buffet.

Breakfast Buffet



Getting used to the European food again



Or Enjoying the Canadian way of dining one more time.



10:00, a full 10 more hours until Air Canada 880’s departure to Paris I decided to make another quick walk in town. My last meal in Toronto I would opt for pasta in the Spaghetti factory.
Salad:



my last “Main”



A visit to the old port:







Soon 14:00 approached and was ready to go towards the Super 8 hotel to collect my bags. At 14:30 the trip to Europe commenced. First of all the tram to York Street, I really love those trams btw  


After my arrival I bought a bus ticket to go the the airport. Would love to go to City-Centre again, but I don’t know how it would cope with a Boeing 767 (or opposite)



It’s the big Yellow bus to Pearson today.



Light load today!



Bus equipped with decent legroom, plugs and wifi. What more can you want!



In the meanwhile fellow member Nils (Sultanis) messaged me (via FB) that C-FMWP would most possible be my registration for tonight’s flight. It arrived earlier as AC 869 from London LHR. What both of us did not knew was that C-FMWP was taking off at this moment again towards Lima, Peru as Air Canada 880. Which possible 767 could be taking me to Paris tonight? Worries for later. In the meanwhile it was 16:00 and we were pulling into the Pearson International airport, first stop was Terminal 3. Soon the 2 sisters from France and The Netherlands where in sight. While the KLM Boeing 747 was being prepared as KL 692 to Amsterdam at 18:25, The Air France Airbus A340-300 was being prepared for AF351 to Paris CDG at 18:50. Normally we would land about an hour behind the Air France A340 in Paris tomorrow morning.



By 16:10 the Bus dropped me off at Terminal 1

Leaving Toronto Pearson International airport
When arriving in the huge modern departure hall of terminal 1 I immediately went for the display to search my row for check in. Terminal 1 is mainly used by Air Canada and it’s Star Alliance partners, However some other airlines like Emirates, Jet Airways and Sunwing are located here as well.



Air Canada has separate lanes for Montreal/Ottawa, Canada, USA,International travel and a Priority lane. All International flights use check-in E with an exception of the flights to Brussels and Geneva which is handled by the Rapidair desk.



All Air Canada’s International flights of the day. So far so good for AC 880, for now at least!



When printing my boarding pass I noticed I was going to have a seatmate and there were no more 2-seaters available, bummer but no can do! Soon I received my boarding pass and baggage tag without any hassles this time. A quick view of terminal 1 before entering security at 16:20



The airport and the security check where very calm, the majority of the passengers were heading on to New Delhi with a stopover in Brussels on Jet Airways 229. The only flight that looked like it was going to be full tonight.By 16:30 I cleared all the formalities and I started the walk towards the International pier of Toronto’s Terminal 1. The fast or slow way?



United, Air Canada and Turkish Airlines



N432UA (Airbus A320-200) pushing back as United 578 to Chicago ORD.


Soon I was in the International concourse, just before the Jet Airways crew arrived. Traffic consisted mainly of Air Canada flights heading towards London, Frankfurt, Zurich, Munich, Sao Paulo, Santiago and my Paris flight. Tonights traffic mix would be operated by Boeing 777-300ER’s, Airbus A330-300s and Boeing 767-300ERs. Austrian Airlines (Boeing 767-300ER), Jet Airways (Airbus A330-200), Lufthansa (Airbus A340-300), Emirates (Airbus A380-800) and Turkish Airlines (Boeing 777-300ER) where on stand as well. I found the International pier a bit poor for taking pictures due to angled gate positions, etc...

The first stop was at gate E81 where C-FPCA, an Air Canada Boeing 767-300ER was being prepared for AC856 to London Heathrow at 18:15. This plane is dedicated to Planehunter who flew this bird between Frankfurt and Calgary a few years back. Btw you can read this report here.
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763 (by PlaneHunter Oct 11 2009 in Trip Reports)



The US terminal with Air Canada, United Airlines and US Airways



C-FIVQ (Boeing 777-300ER) being prepared for Air Canada 872 to Frankfurt



Lufthansa’s daily visitor, today D-AIGF (Airbus A340-300) would be operating Lufthansa 471 to Frankfurt tonight. A few weeks later fellow member Brendan (adamspotter) took the same flight back after a weekend in Canada.
To Toronto For The Weekend Pt. 2: YYZ-FRA-AMS (by adamspotter Apr 19 2012 in Trip Reports)



Austrian’s daily visitor almost ready for departure.



My first A380 up front! Emirates 242 resting at gate E73 before commencing it’s long flight to Dubai at 21:45.



Air Canada 880 is scheduled to depart from gate E72 tonight, there were quite a few people in the gate area already despite our scheduled departure time being more than 3 hours away. Soon I noticed a particular Boeing 767-300 being towed our way. C-FCAB, the exact airframe that brought me from Paris to Toronto 3 weeks ago. For a moment it looked like it was going to be docked at gate E72, but thankfully it went to a few gates further. It would depart later as Air Canada 846 to Munich at 19:55
Here is a link to my story on C-FCAB
To Canada? On Air Canada If Course! (by MSS658 Aug 31 2012 in Trip Reports)


Soon it would become clear that we would not see any plane for the next few hours. Still 2hrs45mins before departure and a delay was posted for 1hr15mins.



While others are leaving:
OS 71 to Vienna



AC 872 to Frankfurt



Or Arriving. Air Canada 16 from Hong Kong, C-FNND a Boeing 777-200LR had the honours to to this route.



Soon Jet Airways 229 was ready to depart towards Delhi, India with a stop in Brussels. Today VT-JWD, an Airbus A330-200 operated the flight.




After this departure it got too dark to make some decent pictures. When checking the FIDS again the departure time was delayed until 21:45. This started to worry me a bit as I only had 2 hours to make my connection in CDG to my TGV towards Lille. Now I would only have 40 minutes between AC 880’s arrival and my TGV departure. Soon I looked up on flightradar which plane could possibly be the one that would take me to France. As all inbound 767’s from International destinations had already arrived well in time I started to look around. Soon I noticed an Air Canada Boeing 767 registred C-FTCA approaching Toronto and due to arrive at 20:07 just in time to ensure a 21:45 departure to Paris CDG. Soon I noticed the gate was equipped I asked the gate agent if there were any 2-seaters left with the aisle unoccupied. After a negative response I asked if the plane was coming from Los Angeles. I received the response that the inbound was coming from Montreal. C-FTCA would leave at 22:00 to Frankfurt as AC876. I suppose they really wanted that flight to go out on time due to a bit more connecting passengers on AC880

Not long after I noticed a Boeing 767-300 taking off back in Montreal. Like C-FCAB on my flight towards Toronto it would be an ex-Canadian plane as well. Today C-FCAE was operating Air Canada 831 from Geneva to Toronto with an intermediate stop in Montreal normally scheduled to arrive at 17:20. Due to a Technical error in Montreal it was running 3,5 hours late and was due to arrive at 20:40, which meant that AC 880’s departure was now pushed to 21:55. At this time I decided to cancel my TGV ticket as I would get a 98% refund if I cancelled it before 11:30 the next morning. I wanted to rebook myself on the 13:06 service but the French railways did not want to accept my credit card. Later on I would be thankful I did not book this TGV. With the number of departures reducing things started to get a bit quiet in the International concourse.





By now it was 20:45 and C-FCAE has arrived at the domestic concourse and will be turned around there before being towed to gate E72 to operate Air Canada 880. In the meanwhile our crew was arriving and held their briefing just a few metres away from where I was sitting. Among the crew I noticed a familiar face. The inflight service director working AC880 is the same person who was featured in the Boeing 777-200LR in the World Air Routes DVD series. For the ones who aren’t familiar to the World Air Routes series, you follow this link (partial of the Purser interview can be seen at 7:47).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unYKJgUYmi8

By now it was 21:15 and an announcement was made telling us that they could not find a tug to tow our aircraft from the Domestic to the International concourse, not long after our departure got pushed to 22:30. One more pic of our bigger neighbour just before it’s departure to Dubai as EK 242



Soon I met a classmate of mine who was travelling onboard Air Canada flight 90 to Sao Paulo and we settled in for a conversation. Finally at 21:50 an announcement was made that our plane has finally arrived and the crew has just boarded. A few minutes later I checked the FIDS again and with boarding still not underway I was really starting to doubt if we could make a 22:30 departure. My classmates flight to GRU has been delayed as well until 23:15, she would eventually be delayed until 23:45.



At 22:10 in Toronto or 4:10 in Paris, 1hr55min after our scheduled departure time the wonderful announcement finally came that boarding for Star Alliance Gold members and Executive passengers. My classmate and I quickly exchanged our goodbyes and made a B-line towards gate E72. 5 minutes later general boarding commenced for:

6. Air Canada flight AC 0880 from Toronto Pearson to Paris Charles De Gaulle
Monday, February 27 2012
Toronto YYZ (YYZ/CYYZ) - Paris CDG (CDG/LFPG)
Air Canada AC 0880 (United Airlines 8252, Lufthansa 5511, Continental Airlines 8252)
Boeing 767-375ER C-FCAE Economy 32A.
Built and delivered to Canadian Airlines on 3 May 1988, delivered to Air Canada on 29 March 2001
20.15-22.54 (Gate E72, Terminal 1; wheels up on runway 33R at 23.05)
09.45-12.27 (Gate A45; Terminal 2A; wheels down on runway 27R at 12.16)
Announced flying time: 7Hrs
Cruising Altitude: FL 350
Load factor: 60% in Y
Routing: YYZ-YYT-NAT W-APE-LFPGCDG.jpg" border="0"/>
Personal statistics
161th registered flight
6th flight in 2012
5th flight on Air Canada (Incl Rapidair)
44th flight on the Boeing 767 series
37th flight on the Boeing 767-300ER
1st flight on C-FCAE

Reccomended song for this long-haul journey: Jason Derulo - Don’t wanna go home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGF_Z3yZAo


Videos related to AC 0880 from Toronto Pearson to Paris Charles De Gaulle.
Safety video (taken onboard C-GLHU between Montreal and Toronto YYZ in Jul. 2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53xaknvGRjc

Takeoff in Toronto YYZ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3F1HfTdGLQ

Climbout in Toronto YYZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie47p4RRScA

Inflight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKfoqDLPfA0

Approach in Paris Charles De Gaulle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyMYCsgAduc

Landing in Paris Charles De Gaulle::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQxCUTsUoM

On the way to the plane I could finally see C-FCAE for the first and only time.



Once onboard I was greeted by the service director and continued to seat 32A, my neighbour had not arrived yet but I soon noticed his screen was not working at all. Would this be a good sign for me. A quick visit to the galley and the chocolate box appeared again. After some talk and thank you’s I returned to my seat. Next door was TC-JJE, a Turkish Airlines Boeing 777-300ER preparing for flight TK16 towards Istanbul. This route is well known by Philip (OA260) who took this flight a few months prior.
Türk Hava Yolları-B77W New J Class +New IST Lounge (by OA260 Jan 11 2012 in Trip Reports)



Despite the delay there were no mad or complaining pax, everybody was in a rush to board and take their seats as soon as possible that we could start our journey over to Paris.



I got an announcement that boarding was complete and was relieved that the seat next to me remained empty. Shortly afterwards the Flight Attendant that I gifted the chocolate box was in the aisle with something in her hands. Interesting it was a thank you gift for me straight out of the J-cabin.



Our departure was delayed even further due to cargo that still needed to be loaded. Finally at 22:55 Toronto time 4:55 the next morning in Paris. The final checks were made, the safety video commenced and the pushback finally commenced 2 hrs 40 mins after our scheduled departure time. It was great to be finally on our way.


Since runway 33R was in use it was a very short taxi, traffic was limited as well at this hour. Soonly at 23:10 Eastern Time, 5:10 European central time; C-FCAE spooled up it’s engines and we were off into the Canadian skies commencing our 7 hour flight over the pond. A last picture of the Toronto metropolitan area.



There was not too much to see anymore at this time of day. Soon after reaching our cruising altitude of 35 000 feet the crew were in the aisles with dinner. Nice to see Air Canada opts to serve dinner as quick as possible on these shorter crossings, they even managed to break Delta’s record of 35 minutes after takeoff. It seems like the American carriers get this concept better than the European carriers IMO. Today’s choice was Chicken or Beef, I opted for the former. While the taste was good the portion was once again a bit on the small side. 23:30 in Toronto, 5:30 in Paris; I received my meal.


Overhead Montreal where I had an enjoyable three weeks




The good fact about red-eye flights is that you could see the light effects caused by the mood lightning, for example this light blue one.



Replaced from time to time by an Orange/Red colour, note the different colors in the executive cabin.



My playlist for tonight’s crossing over the atlantic



Not so long after the meal trays were cleared I quickly made a lavatory visit, Before returning back to my seat I had a nice conversation with a couple of Flight Attendants, including the Service Director. I found it quite professional how he kept the passengers and fellow crew members motivated despite our delay. Our crew consisted of a nice variety of Male, Female, junior and senior Flight Attendants. 1:00 in Toronto, 7:00 in France; Just about 2hours in the 7hour flight over the Atlantic I opted to get some shuteye. But first the obligatory PTV shot.



9:00 in Paris, 3:00 in Toronto. 4 hours since taking of in Toronto and about 3 hours to go before touching down in Paris Charles de Gaulle I was suddenly awoken by some turbulence. I tried going back to sleep but that did not work. 45 minutes later I gave up and soon stretched my legs again.
In the meanwhile the sun was starting to rise again above the Atlantic.



Just before stretching out:



Some more time was spent on stretching and talking with some of the flight attendants until the preparations started for the Breakfast service. When I returned to my seat we were making landfall over Europe.



Cabin lights adjusted again:


It looks like it’s a cloudy day over Ireland today! A quick wave down to Philip (OA260)



10:50 European time, 4:50 back on the Eastern coastline the carts were in the aisle again and the breakfast service began. Unlike my US Airways flight from Charlotte to Paris in december the breakfast was served in well time for our descent in Paris. However I was a bit disappointed by the rather small portion which consisted a muffin and a drink. Direct competitors like Delta and Continental do have a bigger portion. Nevertheless it was still better than US Airways’s breakfast.



Over the Irish sea, still not so much to see of Europe yet



Nearing the end of our transatlantic journey from Toronto to Paris



11:45 Paris time, 5:45 in Toronto; 6hrs 35mins since leaving the ground the engines of C-FCAE where idled and our descent into the Paris area started.


Above the English channel



Not long after the seatbelt sign was turned on and preparations for the descent started. Interesting enough there were announcements made where the exits on our Boeing 767 were located. The Weather has not improved yet. Still cloudy above France



Breaking through the clouds above the typical Northern French countryside, the flaps had already been lowered.


Soon we were on finals



12:16 in Paris, 6:16 in Toronto. A little over 7hours since takeoff C-FCAE’s wheels hit runway 27R in Charles De Gaulle. Since we landed on the North side of the airport this meant that there was quite a taxi ahead for us. First stop, the Terminal 1 rutunda


Thai Airways Boeing 777-300 (HS-TKJ) as TG931 to Bangkok



No terminal 1 for us today.



N283AY (Airbus A330-200) being prepared for US Airways flight 755 to Philadelphia



Air Transat A330-300, C-GTSD.



The must-have-a-concorde in a CDG report



As we neared terminal 2A another Air Canada Boeing 777-300ER could be seen. C-FIVR was being prepared as AC871 to Montreal.



Cathay Pacific Boeing 747-400 registred B-HKF being prepared for it’s flight back to Hong Kong as CX 260 (Dedicated to airbuseric and Akhmad)



Approaching gate A45, the exact same gate we left from to Canada!



At 12:27 the engines we came to a halt and the engines were shut down about 2hrs45mins after schedule, unfortunately we didn’t make up any time in the air. Preparations were already made for the return flight to Toronto, quite logically since C-FCAE should have been back in the air operating AC 881 to Toronto.


While deboarding the mood was set again.



When passing the front section the purser asked me if I was interested in seeing the front office which I accepted.



Any idea what this is for?



At 12:35 Paris time or 6:35 in Toronto I thanked the crew and deboarded the plane. Less than an hour later this plane would be pushing back again with a new load of passengers bound for Toronto as AC 881. Quite impressive turnaround speed for a 767, If it only went like that in the home base as well.

Arrival in Paris Charles De Gaulle International Airport

Once off board I proceeded to passport control which was under construction, due to the construction works only a few lanes where available. Not such a big deal since we were the only arriving flight at the moment, however I do understand that it would be quite an annoying story if it was busier. I was through immigration in no time and went towards Baggage claim. Interesting to see a TIDS in the arrivals hall since I should have been in Lille by this time. Thankfully, plenty of options to head on to Lille!



Baggage claim 8 is to be used for handling Air Canada 880 from Toronto.



FIAS, the majority of the traffic at terminal 2A has already arrived. Looks a bit dead.



by 12:55 I claimed my luggage and proceeded towards the exit. Soon I started my walk towards the train station. Underway I passed the Emirates crew for their flight to Dubai. Before leaving terminal 2C I was able to catch a pic of a Boeing 777-300ER of Air France at gate C91



The infamous FIDS at the TGV station



By the time I was in the station it was already 13:15, I managed to get a walk-up fare for 35 EUR. However I was told there were no upper deck seats available anymore hmm... At 13:30 the TGV rolled into the station and found out there was nobody sitting on the upper deck. Hmmm... looks like there was a glitch in the system. We departed on time at 13:36, well on-time?? I should have already left 2 hours ago. An advantage is that I got a double decker TGV instead of the single deck older TGV and that this service runs the High speed line until Lille-Europe unlike my scheduled service making up some more time.
Croque Monsieur and Tiramisu for lunch



No more available seats on the upper deck? hmmmm...



The rest of the ride passed by uneventfully arriving in the Lille-Europe on time at 14:30, 85 minutes after the scheduled arrival! Not bad knowing that I was running almost 3 hours late when I landed at Paris CDG.



Soon I was met by my dad and after a small drive I arrived back at home at 15:30, 19 hours after leaving the Super 8 hotel in Toronto.

Overall verdict

Once again I was satisfied about Air Canada, another comfortable flight, with a very friendly crew. I was very surprised about the condition of this 767! No person could tell that the plane was 24 year old. The only thing that could improve is the quantity of the breakfast which could have been a bit bigger. Concerning the delay, things can happen on any airline and I had the impression that the Toronto staff did a good job informing us about the delay. However I still don’t understand how it possibly takes more than 2 hours to turn a Boeing 767 at Air Canada’s hub airport during an off-peak moment. The International concourse of Terminal 1 was great but nothing special neither and not always so good for spotting neither. I was glad to get such a great deal on my TGV ticket for my walk-up fare, eventually my old ticket was refunded leaving the cost impact to a small 10 Euro’s. Not bad at all given the situation.

Overall Remarks.

Air Canada 0880 from Toronto YYZ to Paris CDG (Total score is 80%):

Departure: 80% (We were kept well informed about the delay, enough facilities)
Aircraft cleanliness : 90% (Appeared clean and maintained )
Seat Comfort: 90% (Great leg room, comfortable seating)
Crew: 90% (Nice and friendly, very quick dinner service after takeoff)
IFE: 80% (Identical to my Paris-Toronto leg)
Catering: 70% (While the quality was good the portion could be a bit bigger.)
Arrival: 70% (Easy since we were the only flight arriving.)


As a bonus I would like to give a list of regs I spotted in Toronto YYZ and Paris CDG

Toronto YYZ
C-FFWI
C-FYXC
N432UA
C-GITY
C-FJJZ
C-FJNZ
C-FFWN
TC-JJE
C-FEJY
C-FEXI
C-FPCA
C-FIVQ
C-FNZB
C-FCAB
C-FTUA
VT-JWD
D-AIGF
C-FCAE

Paris CDG
C-FCAE
HS-TKJ
C-GTSD
F-HAXL
LX-LGA
N283AY
F-GSEU
C-FIVR
B-HKF

Total facts in this trip report
1 New registration (C-FCAE)

Facts in the trip report series:
1 New Airline (Air Canada Express/Sky Regional)
1 New Airport (Toronto YTZ)
1 New Type (Dash 8-Q400)
4 New registrations (C-FCAB, C-GITP,C-FSRJ and C-FCAE)


Thanks for reading and viewing this trip report, I hope you enjoyed reading it. As usual, comments and feedback are always welcome

Stay tuned for my next trip report:
Avrojetting up to Copenhagen!!

Past trip reports:
Toronto City Centre? But Not On Porter! (by MSS658 Sep 23 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Canada? On Air Canada If Course! (by MSS658 Aug 31 2012 in Trip Reports)
SAS, Stockholm And The A.net Meeting! (by MSS658 Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A332s, A Step Forward In The Fleet? (by MSS658 Apr 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Going Home, The Star Alliance Way! (by MSS658 Mar 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Jetting The Blue Way To New York! (by MSS658 F


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
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User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 746 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11945 times:

Superb report Marc,

with all the essential facts given, the beautiful views over the Toronto downtown and the Niagara Falls i really like it.
It just sucks to arrive 4 h prior the flight and having to wait a further 2h15... c'est la vie!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Jumpseat for me today!

The best seat for sure

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The fast or slow way?

knowing the your spare time, my bet goes for the slow way...

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
At this time I decided to cancel my TGV ticket as I would get a 98% refund if I cancelled it before 11:30 the next morning.

You did very well indeed

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
was relieved that the seat next to me remained empty.

excellent surprise for you!


Thanks for sharing the inbound journey and looking forward to reading more form you

Léo



Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Air Uganda, Kenya Airways and Rwandair...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11908 times:

Looks like a part got deleted: you can find it here
Past trip reports:
Toronto City Centre? But Not On Porter! (by MSS658 Sep 23 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Canada? On Air Canada If Course! (by MSS658 Aug 31 2012 in Trip Reports)
SAS, Stockholm And The A.net Meeting! (by MSS658 Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Spectacular Southeastern Sunset Takeoff With US! (by MSS658 Jun 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A332s, A Step Forward In The Fleet? (by MSS658 Apr 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Going Home, The Star Alliance Way! (by MSS658 Mar 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Jetting The Blue Way To New York! (by MSS658 Feb 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Chasing The Storm On US Airways! (by MSS658 Jan 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Trip On A Classic Silverjet And Some Trains! (by MSS658 Jan 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Losing My Southwest Virginity! (by MSS658 Dec 18 2011 in Trip Reports)
Au-revoir Continental! (by MSS658 Dec 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
SATA, The Azores And The A310 Part II (by MSS658 Nov 13 2011 in Trip Reports)
SATA, The Azores And The A310! Part I (by MSS658 Oct 16 2011 in Trip Reports)
Sun, Snow, Rain And ... Lufthansa! (by MSS658 Sep 4 2011 in Trip Reports)
Propping Around The Upstate! (by MSS658 Aug 7 2011 in Trip Reports)
US Airways And Irregular Operations! (by MSS658 Jul 17 2011 in Trip Reports)
Lufthansa, There Is No Better Way To Fly! (by MSS658 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
A Short Hop On A Big Bird! (by MSS658 Feb 27 2011 in Trip Reports)
A West Side Flight On The East Side! (by MSS658 Jan 9 2011 in Trip Reports)
Wifi And Condensation On US Airways! (by MSS658 Dec 10 2010 in Trip Reports)
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A333's.Are They Really That Bad? Part 2 (by MSS658 Oct 23 2010 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A330-300's. Are They Really That Bad? (by MSS658 Oct 16 2010 in Trip Reports)


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11892 times:
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Hi Marc,

Nice report my friend! I hope your level of French has improved substantially by now. If not, this trip was not in vain because you were able to do some nice flight and include the Toronto City Centre airport to your log.
AC seems like a nice way to cross the Atlantic, if only the meal portions were a bit bigger and I have seen no brekkie?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Jumpseat for me today!

Wow, cool, a helicopter ride.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Light load today!

Those seats look really comfy!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
In the meanwhile fellow member Nils (Sultanis) messaged me (via FB) that C-FMWP would most possible be my registration for tonight’s flight.

Didn't I give you the wrong reg? Perhaps that was because of the delay that they decided to change aircraft in last instance.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Soon I met a classmate of mine who was travelling onboard Air Canada flight 90 to Sao Paulo and we settled in for a conversation.

It's a small world  

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
On the way to the plane I could finally see C-FCAE for the first and only time

Indeed I gave your the wrong reg 

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
At 12:27 the engines we came to a halt and the engines were shut down about 2hrs45mins after schedule

That's quite a lengthy delay. 15 mins more and you could've asked for compensation  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11870 times:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 1):
Superb report Marc,

with all the essential facts given, the beautiful views over the Toronto downtown and the Niagara Falls i really like it.
It just sucks to arrive 4 h prior the flight and having to wait a further 2h15... c'est la vie!

Hello Léo
Thanks for the nice feedback. I'm glad you liked it. The extra wait is indeed the less glamourus part about flying.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 1):
The best seat for sure

No Kidding!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 1):
knowing the your spare time, my bet goes for the slow way...

Correct!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 1):
You did very well indeed

Thankfully I did not decide to rebook immediatly.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 1):
excellent surprise for you!


Thanks for sharing the inbound journey and looking forward to reading more form you

Léo

What more can you want on a longhaul flight  .

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Hi Marc,

Nice report my friend! I hope your level of French has improved substantially by now. If not, this trip was not in vain because you were able to do some nice flight and include the Toronto City Centre airport to your log.
AC seems like a nice way to cross the Atlantic, if only the meal portions were a bit bigger and I have seen no brekkie?

Hi Nils
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed it. What ever my French level is I stil enjoyed the Canada trip.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Wow, cool, a helicopter ride.

last-minute!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Those seats look really comfy!

They where

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):

Didn't I give you the wrong reg? Perhaps that was because of the delay that they decided to change aircraft in last instance.

C-FCAE was the plane, don't know if it was due to the delay. I do know that FMWP left to LIM earlier.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):

That's quite a lengthy delay. 15 mins more and you could've asked for compensation

Sultanils

Should have delayed boarding a bit   maybe it would work.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6503 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11003 times:

Hi Marc !

Nice report with nice pictures !

Great to see pictures from Niagara Falls which looks great. I was there in July 1986 and had a great visit.

AC doesn't look so great here. Too bad with the delay. The dinner does not look to good and the breakfast is not so big.....

Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently onlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10802 times:
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Im confused. Was this in January or recently in Oct? Some of the pics look like dead of winter with snow and other pics look like mid fall with people wearing light clothing.

User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1170 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10232 times:

I like their muffin for breakfast. I prefer it than a croissant on AA / UA.

User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9919 times:

Great report as always Marc, nice to read about AC's product across the Atlantic.
A shame about the delay though, but a good thing you could cancel your train ticket and find a decent walk-up fare.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9693 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Hi Marc !

Nice report with nice pictures !

Great to see pictures from Niagara Falls which looks great. I was there in July 1986 and had a great visit.

Hi Lars,

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
AC doesn't look so great here. Too bad with the delay. The dinner does not look to good and the breakfast is not so big.....

Dinner was actually better than it looked actually!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man

Stay tuned!

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 6):
Im confused. Was this in January or recently in Oct? Some of the pics look like dead of winter with snow and other pics look like mid fall with people wearing light clothing.

The flight was taken on Feb 27th 2012

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 7):
I like their muffin for breakfast. I prefer it than a croissant on AA / UA.

It was good, but just small! Doesn't UA and DL serve a bit more generous?

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 8):
Great report as always Marc, nice to read about AC's product across the Atlantic.
A shame about the delay though, but a good thing you could cancel your train ticket and find a decent walk-up fare.

Hi Robert

Thanks, I'm glad I had the advantage of the youth card indeed! Delays unafortunaly do happen.


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9562 times:

Hi Marc,

nice report on AC, some good city pics from Toronto and really nice to ride that chopper too.
Not sure about AC here, the meal seems indeed small, not to talk about the 'what they call' breakfast. It's just too simple to be a breakfast. Really poor effort.
Thanks for mentioning me in regards to CX's 747 at CDG.
Soon I'll have another departure ex CDG myself also. From T1... it has been a while for me since I last left on a RG MD11 from there  

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6716 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9383 times:

Hi Marc,

interesting report about your latest AC trip. Good to see you got a veteran 763 from 1988. AC's catering still cannot impress me.

You took nice pictures in Toronto, I may visit the city next year.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The first stop was at gate E81 where C-FPCA, an Air Canada Boeing 767-300ER was being prepared for AC856 to London Heathrow at 18:15. This plane is dedicated to Planehunter who flew this bird between Frankfurt and Calgary a few years back. Btw you can read this report here.

Thanks for the link!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9300 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 10):
Hi Marc,

nice report on AC, some good city pics from Toronto and really nice to ride that chopper too.

Hoi Eric!

Thanks! glad you liked it

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 10):
Not sure about AC here, the meal seems indeed small, not to talk about the 'what they call' breakfast. It's just too simple to be a breakfast. Really poor effort.

Breakfast was indeed a bit on the poor side.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 10):
Thanks for mentioning me in regards to CX's 747 at CDG.
Soon I'll have another departure ex CDG myself also. From T1... it has been a while for me since I last left on a RG MD11 from there

Regards
Eric

No problem, have fun in the runtunda

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
Hi Marc,

interesting report about your latest AC trip. Good to see you got a veteran 763 from 1988. AC's catering still cannot impress me.

Hi PH,
Thanks, glad you liked it. Breakfast was indeed to much to be desired.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
You took nice pictures in Toronto, I may visit the city next year.

Thanks! I can only reccomend it, be sure to book a sidetrip to Niagara as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
Thanks for the link!


PH

My pleasure

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9283 times:

Hey Marc,

A TR long overdue! It feels like forever since you were in Canada. I'm glad you found time to put it together. Great photos of Toronto. I wish I had more time to explore the place when I was there in 2010.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The Ferry in between the airport and the city

This simply has to be the shortest ferry crossing in the world...

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The next day I participated into a guided daytrip of the Niagara falls, a must see while in the Toronto Area. As matter in fact, last-minute I got to log another flight. Most probably the shortest flight in the log. Here she is C-GSZZ

Now that's cool! I've never been on a chopper so I find the idea of sightseeing in one quite exhilarating.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
at a Korean restaurant! Interesting way of dining!

Man, I love Korean BBQ. The marinated meat that they let you cook yourself is usually insanely good.


Thanks for a nice read Marc,

S.



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9068 times:

Hi Marc,

enjoyable report once again, good to read more about your Canadian trip. Nice pictures of Toronto and the Niagara falls. For sure a great experience to get a helicopter ride over the falls. Been there as well some years ago and while the falls itself are certainly impressive, I didn't really like the Niagara village on the Canadian side, way too crowded and full of tourists traps. The American side is much quieter.

And again a nice flight with AC here. Sorry to hear about the long delay, but at least it seems to be handled well by the crew.

Greetings
CaptainRed


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8583 times:
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Hi Marc,

Nice to see the report of your return journey online. Another nice report with many nice pictures, surely enjoyed it!
Air Canada looks quite nice once again except for the catering. Although a muffin for breakfast with some drinks is sufficient for me during such a TATL flight to be honest. But everybody has their own taste with that. Bad performance on AC and YYZ concerning the delay I must say.
Its quite nice to see those pictures of Niagara, Toronto and YYZ as I have also recently visited those places as you know. You were at YYZ about the same time I was when I was at the same int'l terminal, sure makes me wanna go back again! Such a great city and airport.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The Falls from above

Great pictures!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
After a wonderful helicopter ride it was time to visit Niagara on the lake, an old but nice village near the falls.

visited there last summer too, great little town!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Light load today!

Those look like some very comfortable chairs!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
While the KLM Boeing 747 was being prepared as KL 692 to Amsterdam at 18:25

Quite interesting to see the 747 operated that flight back then.. Any idea what the reg was?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
All Air Canada’s International flights of the day. So far so good for AC 880, for now at least!

And a slight delay to LHR also!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
A few weeks later fellow member Brendan (adamspotter) took the same flight back after a weekend in Canada.

Thanks for the link! That sure was a GREAT weekend   Am glad I caught the wanted A340-600 back then instead of this A343

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Shortly afterwards the Flight Attendant that I gifted the chocolate box was in the aisle with something in her hands. Interesting it was a thank you gift for me straight out of the J-cabin.

Very nice! I think I must start the "chocolate box trick" myself too, any brand you recommend? :P

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
My playlist for tonight’s crossing over the atlantic

After seeing some of your playlist on different reports I have to say you have my taste of music  

Take care!

Brendan


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8485 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Any idea what this is for?

That is the P61 maintenance panel used for troubleshooting. Also there is a audio control panel and O2 mask on this one due to a jumpseat being there.



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8356 times:

Hi Marc

Nice continuation of your recent series to Canada. Good to see some pics of Toronto and Niagara as well.

Shame about the delay on the return flight - I know how frustrating that must have been when you are on your way home.

Everyone seems to have commented on the breakfast served - well although it was not much, I can't think of many transatlantic carriers who serve any kind of big breakfast these days in Y. I remember last year on my JFK - LHR on BA in Y and all we received was a very small muffin and a juice. Wow! I dont think we'll see anything substantive appearing on transatlantic flights anytime soon when it comes to breakfast.

I also think it's worth adding that by the time breakfast is served on many TATL flights, local time (ie your body clock time is usually still on US or Canada time, and as such it's about 3-4am in the morning) so frankly, who needs a huge breakfast at that time of the morning in any case? I can't each that much at that time of the morning!

Thanks for this - I really enjoyed reading.

Palmjet



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8063 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
Hey Marc,

A TR long overdue! It feels like forever since you were in Canada. I'm glad you found time to put it together. Great photos of Toronto. I wish I had more time to explore the place when I was there in 2010.

Hello S.
Thanks, glad you liked it

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
This simply has to be the shortest ferry crossing in the world...

Must be  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
Now that's cool! I've never been on a chopper so I find the idea of sightseeing in one quite exhilarating.

Well, it actually was a last minute choice. But did not regret it.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
Man, I love Korean BBQ. The marinated meat that they let you cook yourself is usually insanely good.


Thanks for a nice read Marc,

S.

It was very good!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 14):
Hi Marc,

enjoyable report once again, good to read more about your Canadian trip. Nice pictures of Toronto and the Niagara falls. For sure a great experience to get a helicopter ride over the falls. Been there as well some years ago and while the falls itself are certainly impressive, I didn't really like the Niagara village on the Canadian side, way too crowded and full of tourists traps. The American side is much quieter.

And again a nice flight with AC here. Sorry to hear about the long delay, but at least it seems to be handled well by the crew.

Greetings
CaptainRed

Hello Captain
Glad you liked the report, I can only agree about the Niagara village. Looked like the Canadian LAS or a big theme park!!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Hi Marc,

Nice to see the report of your return journey online. Another nice report with many nice pictures, surely enjoyed it!
Air Canada looks quite nice once again except for the catering. Although a muffin for breakfast with some drinks is sufficient for me during such a TATL flight to be honest. But everybody has their own taste with that. Bad performance on AC and YYZ concerning the delay I must say.

Hello Brendan
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Didn't really get it why AC needed over 2 hours to turn the A/C around at all.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
visited there last summer too, great little town!

Fact  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Those look like some very comfortable chairs!

Sure where, could easy do longer ride in them!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Quite interesting to see the 747 operated that flight back then.. Any idea what the reg was?

I have no idea about the reg! I believe this flight is always a 747 in the winter.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
And a slight delay to LHR also!

FRA, GRU, SCL and... CDG followed the trend as well .

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Thanks for the link! That sure was a GREAT weekend Am glad I caught the wanted A340-600 back then instead of this A343

Really need to log them one day!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Very nice! I think I must start the "chocolate box trick" myself too, any brand you recommend? :P

How long as there are enough to share any brand is fine!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
After seeing some of your playlist on different reports I have to say you have my taste of music

Take care!

Brendan

Good to know!

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 16):
That is the P61 maintenance panel used for troubleshooting. Also there is a audio control panel and O2 mask on this one due to a jumpseat being there.

Hey stratosphere,
Thanks for the insight!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Hi Marc

Nice continuation of your recent series to Canada. Good to see some pics of Toronto and Niagara as well.

Shame about the delay on the return flight - I know how frustrating that must have been when you are on your way home.

Hello PJ, thanks! Glad you liked it. Too bad about the delay, but that's life!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Everyone seems to have commented on the breakfast served - well although it was not much, I can't think of many transatlantic carriers who serve any kind of big breakfast these days in Y. I remember last year on my JFK - LHR on BA in Y and all we received was a very small muffin and a juice. Wow! I dont think we'll see anything substantive appearing on transatlantic flights anytime soon when it comes to breakfast.

I also think it's worth adding that by the time breakfast is served on many TATL flights, local time (ie your body clock time is usually still on US or Canada time, and as such it's about 3-4am in the morning) so frankly, who needs a huge breakfast at that time of the morning in any case? I can't each that much at that time of the morning!

Thanks for this - I really enjoyed reading.

Palmjet

I do understand your point, however while not expecting french toast and eggs they could at least give an extra piece of fruit for ex. (like CO, DL, UA, AF,...)


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinewin1290 From Thailand, joined Jan 2012, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Hey Marc,

Very nice trip report from you once again. I enjoyed reading all of them   Cheers!
I agree, its very hard to believe that the plane is actually 24 years old, given the new interior. I particularly like the mood light used on your flight too! Great also you got the empty seat next to you!
Love the photos Niagara falls, stunning! and also the photos of Toronto too.

Thanks,

Win


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26860 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

Hi Marc  

Great report as always . Loved all the pics especially of Toronto . Brought back memories of my trip last Winter as you mentioned.

You certainly made good use of your time there . That Yellow Airport bus I remember well and was a great service complete with the wifi .

Finally the F Class seats on the train are the same we have here on our Belfast to Dublin Express train .  

Looking forward to the next trip .

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

Hello Marc!

Nice report as usual, good to see you had another nice flight with AC, despite the delay.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The Falls from above

Nice pictures! I've long wanted to visit Toronto and the Niagara falls.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Bus equipped with decent legroom, plugs and wifi. What more can you want!

Comfy seats by the look of it as well!

Martin


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

Quoting win1290 (Reply 19):
Hey Marc,

Very nice trip report from you once again. I enjoyed reading all of them Cheers!
I agree, its very hard to believe that the plane is actually 24 years old, given the new interior. I particularly like the mood light used on your flight too! Great also you got the empty seat next to you!
Love the photos Niagara falls, stunning! and also the photos of Toronto too.

Thanks,

Win

Hi Win, Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you like the TR's! Cabin condition on AC was splendid indeed!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
Hi Marc

Great report as always . Loved all the pics especially of Toronto . Brought back memories of my trip last Winter as you mentioned

Hi Philip
Thanks!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
You certainly made good use of your time there . That Yellow Airport bus I remember well and was a great service complete with the wifi .

Definate worth the money!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
Finally the F Class seats on the train are the same we have here on our Belfast to Dublin Express train .

Looking forward to the next trip .

Regards

Philip

Stay tuned  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 21):
Nice pictures! I've long wanted to visit Toronto and the Niagara falls.

Hi Martin
Thanks, I can only reccomend the Toronto area!

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

Hoi Marc,

There’s no better way to get in the mood of upcoming holiday than reading reports of your A.net friends. Yours again! 


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
After a wonderful day at the falls I decided to spend my last evening in Canada at a Korean restuarant! Interesting way of dining!

How did you come up with the idea?  


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Breakfast Buffet

Were there warm options as well like scrambled egg, sausages or the likes?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Would love to go to City-Centre again, but I don’t know how it would cope with a Boeing 767 (or opposite)

It’s worth a try. Boeing 767 has excellent short-field performance.   


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
What both of us did not knew was that C-FMWP was taking off at this moment again towards Lima, Peru as Air Canada 880

Do you probably mean Air Canada 080?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The fast or slow way?

Which one has the better tarmac view?  


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Soon I met a classmate of mine who was travelling onboard Air Canada flight 90 to Sao Paulo

How nice! Was the meet a coincidence?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
the chocolate box appeared again.

Please tell me! Where do you buy the chocolate box? Which brand is it? Godiva?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Interesting it was a thank you gift for me straight out of the J-cabin.

How sweet! A glass of champagne!   


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
My playlist for tonight’s crossing over the atlantic

We’ve got another one in common. Jason Derulo! 


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Cathay Pacific Boeing 747-400 registred B-HKF being prepared for it’s flight back to Hong Kong as CX 260 (Dedicated to airbuseric and Akhmad)

Aww, thank you!   


Once again, I really appreciate your guidelines for YYZ. What a great Sunday afternoon read! Thanks for sharing!  



Groeten,
Suryo  



Friends forever
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

Goedeavond Suryo

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
Hoi Marc,

There’s no better way to get in the mood of upcoming holiday than reading reports of your A.net friends. Yours again!


Now that feeling

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
How did you come up with the idea?

Actually, pure improvisation.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
Were there warm options as well like scrambled egg, sausages or the likes?

Unaftortunaly there weren't any.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
It’s worth a try. Boeing 767 has excellent short-field performance.

Hmmm.... who knows

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
Do you probably mean Air Canada 080?

Thanks!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
Which one has the better tarmac view?

Well the slow way you have a longer view  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
How nice! Was the meet a coincidence?

Half and half

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
How sweet! A glass of champagne!

A nice treat after a 3hour delay!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
We’ve got another one in common. Jason Derulo!

 
Quoting akhmad (Reply 23):
Aww, thank you!


Once again, I really appreciate your guidelines for YYZ. What a great Sunday afternoon read! Thanks for sharing!



Groeten,
Suryo

My pleasure, I'm glad you enjoyed reading this one.

Marc



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