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No A380, But Still Great: ICN-DXB, EK 77W J Class  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:




Map generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz



Intro
In early 2012 my brother and I decided to go on another Asia tour. Our focus was on Dubai and Bangkok, but later we also decided to include a short stay in Taipei in order to visit the Taipei 101. We had planned to combine one-way flights from the beginning to the end, but it turned out to be much cheaper to return to Dubai again before going home. As usual, I tried to include as many new carriers as possible.

First of all, we booked a very cheap Munich-Doha-Dubai roundtrip on Qatar Airways, an airline which I had wanted to try for a long time. What was more important was an attractive Taipei-Seoul-Dubai connection in Business Class on Korean Air (another new airline for me) and Emirates - sold by Korean Air. The proposed 10-hour experience on the Emirates A380 upper deck was a major reason for our choice, but unfortunately, due to the wing crack issue, the A380 was replaced by a Boeing 777-300ER (at least with the latest interior) some weeks after booking. Since we had already completed the itinerary, a rebooking wouldn't have made any sense. And I guess it wouldn't have been possible anyway due to the fare rules. I sent a letter of complaint about the aircraft downgrade to Emirates, but I have never received an answer. Being a Korean Air customer in this case probably didn't help.

In order to get from Dubai to Bangkok, I would have preferred Gulf Air as it would have been another new carrier, but there was no service to Bangkok on the desired day of travel. So we chose SriLankan Airlines which had impressed me back in 2006. Finally, we decided to fly China Airlines, another new airline for me, from Bangkok to Taipei. This is what the final itinerary looked like:

Munich-Doha
Doha-Dubai
Dubai-Colombo
Colombo-Bangkok
Bangkok-Taipei
Taipei-Seoul
Seoul-Dubai
Dubai-Doha
Doha-Munich


Map:


Map generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz

The fourth and last part of my current series will feature the flight from Seoul to Dubai in Emirates' Business Class. Parts I, II & III can be found here:
5* Carrier, Hilton Suite & Dubai's Epic Landmarks (by PlaneHunter Aug 10 2012 in Trip Reports)
Double Letdown To BKK & TPE: UL A330/A340, CI 744 (by PlaneHunter Sep 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
Taipei 101 & Flawed Prestige Class On Korean A330 (by PlaneHunter Oct 7 2012 in Trip Reports)

[Edited 2012-11-21 08:30:32]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Seat Reservation Odyssey
Before I start writing about the ICN-DXB journey itself, I want to go into detail about the difficulty to reserve seats in advance on that Emirates flight. First of all, it hadn't been possible to do so when I booked the Taipei-Seoul-Dubai connection on Orbitz. All I could do was requesting a window seat. After receiving a (Korean Air) reservation code, I tried my luck on KE's website. However, I soon found out that reserving seats on Korean Air wasn't possible earlier than 30 days before departure. Of course I was fearing that passengers with an Emirates code would in the meantime occupy the best seats on the A380. So I tried my luck on Emirates' website, but the Korean Air code was rejected.

Well, then came the day when I noticed the equipment change from A380 to 777-300ER. Now it was even more important to reserve seats in advance due to the 2-3-2 Business Class configuration on the 777. I called Korean Air again and told them about the aircraft change, but they still couldn't help me as there were still more than 30 days until departure day. Then I called Emirates - and the agent shocked me by telling that she couldn't see any reservation on the Seoul-Dubai flight! She advised me to contact Korean Air in this matter and that's what I did, but Korean Air couldn't tell me such a code. So I started exchanging e-mails with Orbitz to make sure that the reservation was valid. Orbitz quickly replied in each case and ensured that everything was fine with the reservation. However, Orbitz still couldn't tell me an Emirates booking code.  Embarrassment

Finally, 30 days before departure, I called Korean Air again and I was finally able to reserve seats...it wasn't a problem on the Korean Air A330 flight, but the system still showed an A380 on the Emirates flight - and assigned window seats in rows 15 and 16 (staggered layout). Well, Business Class on the latest 777-300ER version ends in row 11, but the agent couldn't help us for the time being. He told me to call again 10 days before departure because, according to him, the system would be up to date then. Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us...  relieved 


Short Visit to Seoul
After our arrival from Taipei (report can be found here), there were more than 8 hours left until the connecting flight to Dubai. Unfortunately, it was already too late to take part in one of various sightseeing tours for transit passengers. So we decided to make a short visit to Seoul. Passing immigration was a matter of a view minutes, but the officer was wondering that we wanted to enter the country for a few hours only.

We went straight to the airport's futuristic train station which was rather deserted on that late Thursday afternoon:





In order to get to Seoul Station, passengers can choose between a nonstop service (journey time 43 minutes) which departs every half-hour and a multi-stop service (journey time 53 minutes) which departs every 6 minutes. The modern train AREX (Airport Railroad Express) train was comfortable and clean, but there wasn't much to see on the way:



Welcome to Seoul Station in the heart of the city:







As expected, it was very busy there:










It was very cold outside, so we returned to the station quickly, checked out a few shops and finally took the train back to the airport.




Thursday, March 2012
Seoul (ICN) - Dubai (DXB)
Emirates EK323, also operating as KE5951
Scheduled times: 23:55-05:05
Actual times: 23:47-04:51
Flight duration: 09:35 (hrs)
Distance: 4189 miles
Business Class, seat 10K

Boeing 777-31HER
A6-ECI (s/n 728)
Delivered in 07/2008


1st flight on A6-ECI
8th 777-300ER flight
32nd 777 flight



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Since we had already received our boarding passes at Taipei, we could go airside immediately. Before heading to Korean Air's Concourse Lounge, we decided to make a quick visit to our gate to find out which aircraft would fly us to Dubai later in the evening. Unfortunately, taking decent pictures through the windows wasn't possible. Emirates had sent A6-ECI, built in mid-2008:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323gate1.jpg


A6-ECI is one of 80 (!) frames in the airline's ever growing Boeing 777-300ER fleet:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323gate2.jpg

There are different 77W versions in the fleet and A6-ECI belongs to those designated by Emirates as "Ultra Long Range 777-300ERs" which means they are equipped with private suites in First Class and lie-flat seats in Business Class. Of course I was glad that it was indeed a plane with the latest product as scheduled - after losing the A380 it would have been very bad to end up on a bird with the old Business Class seats due to a last minute aircraft change.

If you want to find out more about the different product versions and if you want to know which one is available on a particular flight, check out this link:
http://www.emirates.com/english/flying/seating/seating.aspx

Then it was time to spend a few hours in the Concourse Lounge, located on the 4th floor of Concourse A:



Very nice aircraft model in the entrance area:



That huge lounge was rather deserted on that evening:







There was a decent range of cold and hot snacks available - freshly made and well presented:











Well, I wasn't entirely satisfied with the drinks selection - ginger ale was missing!  Wink







Numerous newspapers and magazines:



I was expecting to get lots of delicious food on the flight, so I just had some light snacks, e.g. vegetarian sushi with wasabi sauce:


While hanging around in the lounge, an Emirates ground staff member showed up who had been looking for us. Since there were only few people around, she must have guessed quickly that we were the guys she was trying to find. She kindly asked for our passports and then handed out two "real" Emirates boarding passes, replacing the ones issued by Korean Air at Taipei. However, she didn't explain why she had been doing so. At least our seat assignments hadn't changed - that's what I had been fearing for a moment.

Then the lady asked if we were Skywards members and offered to enter the numbers into the system. I confirmed, but I told her that I didn't have my membership card with me and that I would claim my miles afterwards. However, when I returned home some days later, the miles had already been added to my account. So the ground agent must have searched for my number and added it to the reservation. Very nice service!  thumbsup 

Btw - even though our reservation showed a Korean Air flight number on the ICN-DXB sector, it was not possible to earn Flying Blue miles...that's what I had already found out before the trip.  thumbsdown 

[Edited 2012-11-21 08:35:50]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Less than an hour before departure, we went to the gate and we only had to wait shortly until priority boarding commenced. We were among the first passengers to step on board and received a friendly welcome. Interestingly, most of the flight attendants working in Business Class were Asian females, most likely Koreans - and even though they were friendly and helpful, they were reserved and I missed a personal touch throughout the whole flight, just like on Korean Air.

Taking pictures wasn't easy due to the continuous passenger flow. I was more or less forced to place all my stuff on my seat and quickly took pictures of the seats in row 11 (which is missing a window):


The majority of the 777-300ERs is equipped with lie-flat Business Class seats. They are 20.5 inches wide and 78 inches long, almost 2m, when reclined (Business Class seats on the company's A380s are only 18.5 inches wide). Seat features include a privacy divider, power supply, dual port USB and a large table. I found the seat very comfortable in all positions. This is my seat (photographed after the flight):



We really liked the abundance of storage space...



...and had no reason to complain about a lack of legroom:



17-inch screens provide an excellent viewing experience:



I used to dislike Emirates' omnipresent wooden elements, but now I find them rather classy:



Large and nice table:



Classic (high-quality) IFE handset and funky wireless control pad for IFE and seat functions:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323controller1w.jpg


High-quality noise-cancelling headphones...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323headphonesw.jpg

...which were so effective that I switched to normal mode when I started to miss the gorgeous GE90 engine sound later during the flight.  Wink

The flight attendants were soon offering pre-departure drinks, including champagne. We sat back and enjoyed some Moët & Chandon Brut Impérial:



Time had passed quickly and we were soon ready to go. Parked next to us was Cathay Pacific 777-300 B-HNH - our engines were larger than theirs…  Wink

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323enginew.jpg


We left the gate 8 minutes ahead of schedule and I could soon enjoy the lovely GE90 start-up music. During taxi, I switched to front camera view - which is certainly not half as nice as the A380's tail camera view. One minute after midnight, A6-ECI turned onto the runway...



...and rocketed into the sky after a powerful takeoff roll:



I kept watching the moving map for the next 30 minutes:



As far as I know, Emirates is still the one and only carrier showing the aircraft's registration in the flight info section:





Nuts and drinks were offered and I enjoyed some ginger ale in style:



Then it was time to have a closer look at various stuff, e.g. this Economy Class style plastic-packed amenity set:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323amenityset1.jpg


http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323amenityset2.jpg


Shocked? No worries, here's the real amenity kit...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323amenitykit1.jpg


...full of high-quality items:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323amenitykit2.jpg


Regular inflight magazine and First & Business Class magazine:



Mistakes anywhere?


So let's see...Emirates doesn't distinguish between the three 777-200s and the six 777-200ERs (what about the significant range difference?) and the A330-200 image lacks an RR engine. But everything else looks fine.  Wink


Shopping guides...



...and a very thick IFE guide for the excellent ice digital widescreen entertainment system:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323ifeguide.jpg


As dinner service was about to commence, it was high time to have a closer look at the menu:





Interesting introduction which raises expectations:



Rather impressive beverage list...



...and this appetizing selection of food did not make my decision an easy one:



And here are some more treats:



Let's switch to the wine list:













Now everything was set for the feast...



…and I decided to start with crabmeat avocado tian, peppered scallops, water melon and herb salad. The tray looked really pretty:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner1w.jpg

Even though I'm not a big fan of scallops, everything tasted fine. Then I continued with Korean beef fillet, served with barley rice, spinach and white radish. Once again, the presentation was faultless:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner2.jpg


That looked really good...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner3.jpg

...and the beef was indeed excellent, the whole main course tasted delicious. I also liked the garlic bread:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner4.jpg


Meanwhile we were cruising near Hohhot...note the curve around Beijing:



While I was having a break before dessert, my brother ordered cheese and fruit, served on a nice wooden board:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner5.jpg


While all other items had been served by the friendly, but reserved female Asians, dessert was offered by a very cheerful male flight attendant (from South Africa, as I would find out later) who - unlike the ladies - also engaged in small talk. I asked him whether he could recommend the cheesecake and he thoroughly confirmed. I also ordered a decaf espresso and he smiled and said: "Yes, of course!" It was obvious that he really likes his job.  thumbsup 

Here's what I got - very tasty blueberry cheesecake with vanilla and strawberry sauce and good decaf espresso:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323dinner6.jpg

There was not a single reason to complain about the meal itself, but we weren't entirely satisfied with the drink service. On my previous flights in Emirates' Economy Class, drinks had been served quite late in most cases - and the same had now happened in Business Class as well. My brother had been planning to try a different wine with each course, but the flight attendants always showed up too late.

After the filling meal, I played around with the wireless controller for a while:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323controller2.jpg


Which position would you like?

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323controller3.jpg

I tested the lie-flat position for a while and found it quite comfortable, but I wasn't sleepy at all.

What I kept enjoying for the next few hours were different massage modes:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323controller4.jpg


I don't think it's necessary any more to go into detail about Emirates' excellent ice IFE system - it offers countless entertainment options and navigation is very easy. The latest version - ice digital widescreen - is the world's best IFE system in my opinion. Main menu:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323ife1.jpg


Information Central:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323ife2.jpg


When flying, I usually I listen to music on my MP3 player, but this time it remained switched off. The combination of high-quality headphones and the IFE system's amazing range of songs was unbeatable...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323ife3w.jpg

All those who want to read more about ice just need to click here:
http://www.emirates.com/english/flyi...inment/inflight_entertainment.aspx

In the middle of the night, I went for a walk and also made an excursion into the Economy Class cabin which was totally packed. Moving through the narrow aisle in the dark cabin wasn't easy. Even though I was careful, I permanently hit someone's leg. Back in the Business Class section:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323cabin2.jpg


Classy wooden elements can also be found in the Business Class lavatories:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323lavatory1.jpg


http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323lavatory2.jpg


Amenities:



Back in my seat - what would an Emirates cabin be without starry sky?

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323cabin1.jpg


Time was flying by - less than 3 hours left:



Red mood light was flooding the well-filled Business Class cabin about 90 minutes before arrival...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323cabin3.jpg


...and it was time to have a look at the breakfast options:



The South African flight attendant showed up again and cheerfully asked: "How are you? Did you get some good sleep?" Then he took our breakfast orders and soon brought nice trays:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323breakfast1w.jpg


Here's my main course of choice:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323breakfast2.jpg

Preparation and presentation were different from my expectations - but I found the dish really interesting. Everything tasted good except for the shredded veal sausage. The flight attendants kept offering tasty croissants and pastries, breakfast service left nothing to be desired.

Unfortunately, the flight was nearing its end...11 minutes left:



We made a turn over the Persian Gulf and went into final approach. Burj Khalifa stands out:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323approach.jpg


However, the GE90s suddenly roared and the plane started climbing again - go-around!  thumbsup  It wasn't as spectacular as on the Jet Airways 77W in November 2011 (report can be found here), but still a nice experience.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323goaround1.jpg


Spectacular view of the giant terminal buildings:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323goaround2.jpg

While climbing out again, the captain made an announcement, but it was hard to understand due to the engine noise. He mentioned "Sharjah", but I have no idea what exactly had happened.

We flew an extended pattern over the Persian Gulf before going into final approach again. Some 20 minutes after the go-around, we finally touched down after a flying time of 9 hours and 35 minutes. Even though it wasn't very busy at the airport, it took 15 minutes to reach the final parking position - which was a remote stand. Parked next to us was 777-200LR A6-EWB:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323arrival.jpg


Of course I took the chance to take some pictures on the way to the bus, but I had to be discrete. What a massive beast the GE90-115B is:



Goodbye A6-ECI, it was a great ride!



We were hoping that we wouldn't be stuck at immigration again, but the Terminal 3 arrival hall was rather deserted. Actually I had never been at the Terminal 3 arrival hall which looks so much better than its counterpart at Terminal 1:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo169/Planehunter/Asia2012ISeoul/EK323arrivalhall.jpg

Passing immigration was just a matter of a few minutes. But I guess waiting times in that exclusive Emirates facility never reach the same levels as in Terminal 1, not even during peak times. After grabbing our luggage, we took a taxi and returned to the Hilton Dubai Creek. Just a few hours later, it was time to head to the Burj Al Arab where I had reserved a table for the famous Friday Brunch at the Al Muntaha restaurant. That visit and the journey back to MUC were already featured in Part I of my series:
5* Carrier, Hilton Suite & Dubai's Epic Landmarks (by PlaneHunter Aug 10 2012 in Trip Reports)

[Edited 2012-11-21 08:49:20]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Conclusion
Even though we didn't have the pleasure to travel on the A380's upper deck, it was a very enjoyable ride in Emirates' Business Class. The latest J Class product on the 777 impressed me with comfortable lie-flats seats, plenty of personal space, superb IFE, high-quality amenities and excellent food. Service was good in general and flight attendants were friendly - it was just a personal touch which I missed in most cases. However, the South African flight attendant belonged to those crew members who can turn a nice flight into a great one.
Well, there's no bar/lounge area and no in-seat minibar on the 777s, but that's a minor issue - you can still drink and eat as much as you want.

The 2-3-2 configuration is certainly a weak point, so it's recommended to reserve a seat as soon as possible. Unfortunately, numerous 777 aren't equipped yet with the latest lie-flat seats, but you can check on the website which particular product can be expected on which particular flight (see above). I would certainly choose Emirates' Business Class again.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
Taipei 101 & Flawed Prestige Class On Korean A330
Double Letdown To BKK & TPE: UL A330/A340, CI 744
5* Carrier, Hilton Suite & Dubai's Epic Landmarks
India's Finest? BKK-BOM-LHR, Jet Airways 738 & 77W
3x Asian Quality: CGK-SIN-HKT-BKK On GA, FD & PG
Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739
Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340
Type Downgrade, Class Upgrade: EgyptAir Business
Long-Haul Cabin On A 737: MUC-CAI On PrivatAir
1 Day, 2 Highlights: Big A.net Meeting & LAN A340
Imperfect Giant: CPT-JNB-FRA On SA A332 & LH A380
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Africa's Best Airline? FRA-JNB On SAA A340-600
Fuel Dump & Return To CDG: Enroute To LAX On 9/11
Greek Quality: Aegean, Olympic & Istanbul Spotting
Exploring A Virgin: VS A343/A346 & Dubai Delights
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Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2158 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

WOWOWOWOWOWOW.

Phenomenal TRs per usual, PH. Thank you for setting the bar for the rest of us, this was really a pleasure to read as always.

The cabin shots of J class illuminated at night gave me the chills....it almost looks like too much fun! Amazing.

Best,

IrishAyes



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 4):
WOWOWOWOWOWOW.

Phenomenal TRs per usual, PH. Thank you for setting the bar for the rest of us, this was really a pleasure to read as always.

Hi IrishAyes,

many thanks for your nice comments!    Great to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 4):
The cabin shots of J class illuminated at night gave me the chills....it almost looks like too much fun! Amazing.

I'm glad these night shots came out well, you never know with a compact camera.


Cheers!

PH

[Edited 2012-11-21 09:20:31]


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User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 504 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

As usual very nice TR.
The product on EK looks excellent, even if you didn't get the A380.
The food seems to be way ahead of european airlines.
And ICE for sure is one of the best IFEs around.
I never thought DXB arrivals could actually be so empty!

Thanks a lot for sharing this great report!
Cheers
Johannes


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
As usual very nice TR.
Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
Thanks a lot for sharing this great report!

Servus Johannes, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
The food seems to be way ahead of european airlines.

EK's catering is indeed excellent, apparently in all classes.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
And ICE for sure is one of the best IFEs around.

ice digital widescreen is unmatched IMO.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
I never thought DXB arrivals could actually be so empty!

I can only agree!


PH



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User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

Great report once again! EK biz product looks very nice, seems like a 16hr DXB-LAX would be no problem in it! The 3-4-3 Y class is a didferent animal of course.

Btw, the CX 773 at the gate beside you in ICN (B-HNH) is the 1st 777-300 ever built. I flew on it Narita-Hong Kong in my RTW trip.  

Regards,
Sveinn



Flights flown: 277 - Airlines: 40 - Airports: 64 - Next flights: LHR-KEF-BOS-EWR-PBI-TPA/SFB-KEF
User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2181 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Great Report!

Its too bad you didnt get the A380 as originally planned, but im glad you still enjoyed your trip with their 77Ws. Also your quite right about the wood finish in the interior, its classy, but I think the kinda overdid it a bit or maybe its just me (never flown EK so what do I know).

Thanks for sharing your report!



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
Great report once again!

Hi Sveinn, thanks for your comments!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
EK biz product looks very nice, seems like a 16hr DXB-LAX would be no problem in it!

Great seat, great IFE, great food, definitely no problem at all.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
The 3-4-3 Y class is a didferent animal of course.

No doubt about that...I wouldn't want to spend 16 hours in a full EK 777 Y Class cabin.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
Btw, the CX 773 at the gate beside you in ICN (B-HNH) is the 1st 777-300 ever built. I flew on it Narita-Hong Kong in my RTW trip.

You were lucky to get that nice bird!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 9):
Great Report!

Hi 817Dreamliiner, thanks for leaving a reply! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 9):
Its too bad you didnt get the A380 as originally planned, but im glad you still enjoyed your trip with their 77Ws.

I was quite disappointed initially, but the 77W flight did indeed turn out great. I have flown on EK's A380 in Y, though.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 9):
Also your quite right about the wood finish in the interior, its classy, but I think the kinda overdid it a bit or maybe its just me (never flown EK so what do I know).

I once thought that, too, but I found it really nice once on board.


PH



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Hey PH!!

Great to see this segment of your trip!! With a few starting bumps it seems to have ended well. Glad you could even go out into Seoul for a bit.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The proposed 10-hour experience on the Emirates A380 upper deck was a major reason for our choice, but unfortunately, due to the wing crack issue, the A380 was replaced by a Boeing 777-300ER

While it is disappointing you did not get the A380 (which was the very reason for booking this sector), I am sure you were not disappointed to be on board the gorgeous B777-300ER!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us...

Reminds me of my ordeal to get a window seat on Etihad on my last flight with them in Dec last year.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In order to get to Seoul Station, passengers can choose between a nonstop service (journey time 43 minutes) which departs every half-hour and a multi-stop service (journey time 53 minutes) which departs every 6 minutes.

So even if one misses the train every half hour with the slightly shorter travel time, they still make it only a little later if they took the train that departs every six minutes.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
A6-ECI (s/n 728)

There is a gorgeous (although with incorrect engines) of the diecast 1:200 A6-ECS which I flew on from JFK-DXB!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Interestingly, most of the flight attendants working in Business Class were Asian females, most likely Koreans - and even though they were friendly and helpful, they were reserved and I missed a personal touch throughout the whole flight, just like on Korean Air.

I might be a cultural thing to be a bit reserved, yet at the same time providing excellent service. Who knows.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
This is my seat (photographed after the flight):

Looks like you did not use your blanket lol. The headrest and the pillow though seem crumpled (due to the almost 10 hour use when compared to the pic on boarding lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I started to miss the gorgeous GE90 engine sound later during the flight.

More than the sound, just looking out the window and seeing those amazingly huge GE90s just hanging from the wings is spell binding!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Parked next to us was Cathay Pacific 777-300 B-HNH - our engines were larger than theirs…

And let's not forget the 773ER has the raked wingtips too lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
As far as I know, Emirates is still the one and only carrier showing the aircraft's registration in the flight info section:

That is good to know in case one misses noting the registration before boarding. Or with no opportunity of noting it on deplaning.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So let's see...Emirates doesn't distinguish between the three 777-200s and the six 777-200ERs (what about the significant range difference?) and the A330-200 image lacks an RR engine. But everything else looks fine.

Only you would be able to catch these PH lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While all other items had been served by the friendly, but reserved female Asians, dessert was offered by a very cheerful male flight attendant (from South Africa, as I would find out later) who - unlike the ladies - also engaged in small talk. I asked him whether he could recommend the cheesecake and he thoroughly confirmed. I also ordered a decaf espresso and he smiled and said: "Yes, of course!" It was obvious that he really likes his job.

South African FAs really do get good reviews here on the EK reports.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
. The combination of high-quality headphones and the IFE system's amazing range of songs was unbeatable...

Nice to see some ABBA there!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Preparation and presentation were different from my expectations - but I found the dish really interesting. Everything tasted good except for the shredded veal sausage. The flight attendants kept offering tasty croissants and pastries, breakfast service left nothing to be desired.

I am not sure if it the lighting at the time of taking the pics (for all meals) was not bright enough, but the colours of the food seem very bland, not at all appetising and the presentation seems very basic for EK. Maybe Homer3152 has spoiled us with his photos and videos lol. (Sorry PH was no way comparing your photos to Homer's just a generalisation)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We made a turn over the Persian Gulf and went into final approach. Burj Khalifa stands out:

What an amazing view that is when landing at DXB!!! That mighty Burj Khalifa towering and blinking high above everything else. I'd say landing at night in DXB is best, the daytime views can be quite depressing if too dusty and murky!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the GE90s suddenly roared and the plane started climbing again - go-around!

Never ever experienced a go-around till today and this seems to be your second on a B773ER!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Parked next to us was 777-200LR A6-EWB:

If I recall I flew A6-EWD back to JFK!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Actually I had never been at the Terminal 3 arrival hall which looks so much better than its counterpart at Terminal 1:

That terminal though bigger, spacious and brighter, seems to lack the warmth and colours that the old Sheikh Rashid terminal had. This Terminal 3 seems so cold and unfriendly.


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1651 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Hello PH,

Thanks for putting together this very nice piece. Boy you certainly had a very nice flight. The excellence in flight certainly made up for missing out on the A380, you'll get that one sooner or later I'm sure  The lounge in ICN looks quite good as well, I like the fact that they use the Korean Air cabin colours all throughout.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us

What a hassle to get your desired seat. Sometimes these things get overcomplicated. I mean: it's just a click or 2 on a seat map and it's done (figure of speaking  ). Still, your persistence paid off but I don't want to pay your phone bill   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A6-ECI is one of 80 (!) frames in the airline's ever growing Boeing 777-300ER fleet

That's a really massive amount. I wasn't aware of that. Now I wonder where they all fly to...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
ginger ale was missing!

Red alert!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...which were so effective that I switched to normal mode when I started to miss the gorgeous GE90 engine sound later during the flight.

Ha ha, that's really funny.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
But everything else looks fine.

I knew there would be some mistakes in there, I'm glad you didn't ask us to find them. I wouldn't have, for sure  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the GE90s suddenly roared and the plane started climbing again - go-around!

How cool. I've never experienced one. According to your narrative it wasn't last minute but some time in advance to the landing, correct?

Sultanils

ps I somehow seem to recall your opening picture  




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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
Great to see this segment of your trip!!

Hi flightsimboy, thank you very much for your feedback!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
With a few starting bumps it seems to have ended well.

Yes, absolutely. It was about time.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
While it is disappointing you did not get the A380 (which was the very reason for booking this sector), I am sure you were not disappointed to be on board the gorgeous B777-300ER!!

I was disappointed initially, but I didn't think of the A380 any more when I stepped on board.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
Reminds me of my ordeal to get a window seat on Etihad on my last flight with them in Dec last year.

Ah, I hate it when such things get complicated.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
There is a gorgeous (although with incorrect engines) of the diecast 1:200 A6-ECS which I flew on from JFK-DXB!!

Why oh why don't they make proper checks?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
Looks like you did not use your blanket lol. The headrest and the pillow though seem crumpled (due to the almost 10 hour use when compared to the pic on boarding lol

True, I didn't use the blanket.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
More than the sound, just looking out the window and seeing those amazingly huge GE90s just hanging from the wings is spell binding!!

So true, so true...

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
And let's not forget the 773ER has the raked wingtips too lol

Oh yes - so our wings were longer than theirs.  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):

That is good to know in case one misses noting the registration before boarding. Or with no opportunity of noting it on deplaning.

   Other airlines should learn a lesson from EK.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):

Only you would be able to catch these PH lol

Well, who knows.  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
South African FAs really do get good reviews here on the EK reports.

That's what I have read several times as well.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
Nice to see some ABBA there!!

And so much other stuff, amazing.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
I am not sure if it the lighting at the time of taking the pics (for all meals) was not bright enough, but the colours of the food seem very bland, not at all appetising and the presentation seems very basic for EK.

I checked the pictures again and don't think they came out so bad. The flash may be a part of the problem. But I can ensure the food looked absolutely delicious.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
What an amazing view that is when landing at DXB!!! That mighty Burj Khalifa towering and blinking high above everything else.

True, absolutely amazing.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
I'd say landing at night in DXB is best, the daytime views can be quite depressing if too dusty and murky!

Yes, I agree. But last time I enjoyed a great morning departure in good conditions on A6-EDA - and we flew straight over Burj Khalifa. That was amazing.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
Never ever experienced a go-around till today and this seems to be your second on a B773ER!!

Yes indeed, I experienced two go-arounds, both of them on the 77W.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):

If I recall I flew A6-EWD back to JFK!!

Nice! I still need to get on EK's 77L. 16 hours in a private suite would be cool...  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
That terminal though bigger, spacious and brighter, seems to lack the warmth and colours that the old Sheikh Rashid terminal had. This Terminal 3 seems so cold and unfriendly.

Well, it was my first arrival there. I'll keep in mind what you said and check during my next visit.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Thanks for putting together this very nice piece.

Hi Nils, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Boy you certainly had a very nice flight. The excellence in flight certainly made up for missing out on the A380, you'll get that one sooner or later I'm sure

It was a great experience indeed. I may try again to travel on the EK A380 upper deck, let's see. At least I already enjoyed flights in Y Class on A6-EDA and A6-EDB.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
The lounge in ICN looks quite good as well, I like the fact that they use the Korean Air cabin colours all throughout.

Cool design indeed, wouldn't mind to stay there again.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
What a hassle to get your desired seat. Sometimes these things get overcomplicated. I mean: it's just a click or 2 on a seat map and it's done (figure of speaking

Yes, why can't it be so easy?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Still, your persistence paid off but I don't want to pay your phone bill

It wasn't too bad...fortunately.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
That's a really massive amount. I wasn't aware of that. Now I wonder where they all fly to...

In addition to the 80 77Ws, there are also 36 older/smaller 777s. They fly everywhere...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Red alert!

  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Ha ha, that's really funny.

 
Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
I knew there would be some mistakes in there, I'm glad you didn't ask us to find them. I wouldn't have, for sure

I'll try to include a quiz again next time...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
How cool. I've never experienced one. According to your narrative it wasn't last minute but some time in advance to the landing, correct?

No, we were still quite high.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
ps I somehow seem to recall your opening picture

Your memory serves you right.  Smile


PH

[Edited 2012-11-21 12:22:56]


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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Oh my! What a great report, and EK looks like a great experience!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Well, Business Class on the latest 777-300ER version ends in row 11, but the agent couldn't help us for the time being. He told me to call again 10 days before departure because, according to him, the system would be up to date then. Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us...   

What a debacle... seat assignments should not be that difficult for J class passengers, although I'm glad to see it worked out.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
She kindly asked for our passports and then handed out two "real" Emirates boarding passes, replacing the ones issued by Korean Air at Taipei. However, she didn't explain why she had been doing so. At least our seat assignments hadn't changed - that's what I had been fearing for a moment.

This seems to be norm when connecting between two airlines. It has gotten to the point where I just actively get a new boarding pass even if I'm checked through.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, the GE90s suddenly roared and the plane started climbing again - go-around!    It wasn't as spectacular as on the Jet Airways 77W in November 2011 (report can be found here), but still a nice experience.

Yeah! What a nice "treat" to end your flight.

From nice planes, good food, and friendly crew members; EK seems to be top notch! I hope to fly them soon in the near future. Thanks for sharing, PH!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
Oh my! What a great report, and EK looks like a great experience!
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
Thanks for sharing, PH!

Hi MHTripple7, thanks a lot for your reply! Good to hear you enjoyed reading.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
What a debacle... seat assignments should not be that difficult for J class passengers, although I'm glad to see it worked out.

KE was the problem in this case - they should learn a lesson from EK in terms of seat selection.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
This seems to be norm when connecting between two airlines. It has gotten to the point where I just actively get a new boarding pass even if I'm checked through.

No doubt, it which makes things more complicated.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
Yeah! What a nice "treat" to end your flight.

Absolutely.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 14):
From nice planes, good food, and friendly crew members; EK seems to be top notch! I hope to fly them soon in the near future.

Yes, you should give EK a try. But don't forget to check the cabin equipment on the desired flights in advance.


PH



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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32589 times:

Hi PH,
As a person who enjoys flying with Emirates I could not miss reading your report. It is good to see that the meals and service were of a high standard, even if some of the cheerful friendliness was missing. I always like it when you get a crew with whom you can have a good joke and a laugh. But some problems as well, I see.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but I have never received an answer.

Shame as it never harms to at least send some anodyne response. TC has said previously that EK were compensating some passengers who were down-gauged but as a KE customer it seems you miss out. But still, a response to your letter from EK should have been forthcoming.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
So I tried my luck on Emirates' website, but the Korean Air code was rejected.

Ah, the perils of code-sharing. I had the same with flights that were codeshares between CX and AY booked through a third party.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
That huge lounge was rather deserted on that evening:

It seems airy enough and it would be quiet without the crowds. But it does look a bit stark. The addition of some (real) plants would make it more cheerful.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
then handed out two "real" Emirates boarding passes

EK has done that every time that I have printed an online boarding pass. At PER they still put them through one of the old-style readers at the gate.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
seats in row 11 (which is missing a window):

Good to know. Some of the 777s do and some don't. Fortunately when I flew in seat 11K on Whiskey India (a 77L) this wasn't a problem.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I used to dislike Emirates' omnipresent wooden elements, but now I find them rather classy:

It depends. On some aircraft the trim around the windows is narrow and is simply a highlight. But on others it is quite wide and dominates. Sometimes less is more.
Thanks for sharing your experience and photos.
Happy travels.
Roy / Quokka


User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 32369 times:

Hi PH,

Another great report with many fantastic pictures. Nice to see you flying EK J, looks like a nice quality product as I expected. I'm most impressed by the catering & the amenity kit.

It's a shame that you weren't able to fly on the EK A380, though some may consider the 77W an upgrade considering how big the J cabin is on the EK A380...

Thanks for sharing

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1911 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 32266 times:
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Another excellent report you have shared with us PlaneHunter!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Well, then came the day when I noticed the equipment change from A380 to 777-300ER. Now it was even more important to reserve seats in advance due to the 2-3-2 Business Class configuration on the 777. I called Korean Air again and told them about the aircraft change, but they still couldn't help me as there were still more than 30 days until departure day. Then I called Emirates - and the agent shocked me by telling that she couldn't see any reservation on the Seoul-Dubai flight! She advised me to contact Korean Air in this matter and that's what I did, but Korean Air couldn't tell me such a code. So I started exchanging e-mails with Orbitz to make sure that the reservation was valid. Orbitz quickly replied in each case and ensured that everything was fine with the reservation. However, Orbitz still couldn't tell me an Emirates booking code. Embarrassment

How frustrating! I remember finding it annoying when I booked a trip with CO/UA before the websites has been fully merged but my experience paled in comparison to your experience! Glad it finally worked out in the end.

Emirates J looks good - food looks tasty, and I'm glad you had a great flight with them.

Looking forward to your next trip!

Best,
Matthew


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 32136 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
As a person who enjoys flying with Emirates I could not miss reading your report.
Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
Thanks for sharing your experience and photos.

Hi Roy, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
I always like it when you get a crew with whom you can have a good joke and a laugh.

  

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
Shame as it never harms to at least send some anodyne response. TC has said previously that EK were compensating some passengers who were down-gauged but as a KE customer it seems you miss out. But still, a response to your letter from EK should have been forthcoming.

Just two lines would have been okay.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
Ah, the perils of code-sharing. I had the same with flights that were codeshares between CX and AY booked through a third party.

I guess that's the price to pay when third parties offer flights cheaper than the operators...

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
It seems airy enough and it would be quiet without the crowds. But it does look a bit stark. The addition of some (real) plants would make it more cheerful.

Some plants would be nice indeed.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 16):
But on others it is quite wide and dominates. Sometimes less is more.

  

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
Another great report with many fantastic pictures.

Many thanks for your reply, aflyingkiwi!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
Nice to see you flying EK J, looks like a nice quality product as I expected. I'm most impressed by the catering & the amenity kit.

EK's J class product was indeed impressive on this flight.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
It's a shame that you weren't able to fly on the EK A380, though some may consider the 77W an upgrade considering how big the J cabin is on the EK A380...

I have heard about these complaints. It definitely feels more private in a small cabin.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):
Another excellent report you have shared with us PlaneHunter!

Hi Matthew, thanks a lot for leaving a reply! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):
Emirates J looks good - food looks tasty, and I'm glad you had a great flight with them.

Yes, I cannot find anything serious to complain.


PH



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31417 times:
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Hi PH!

Another fantastic report and great conclusion to your series here!  
Shame you missed out on the EK A380, but nevertheless it looks like you had a great flight on this 77W. J class really looks fantastic here, great food and some nice FAs!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Seat Reservation Odyssey

Wow, what a pain just to try to get the right seat!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Then the lady asked if we were Skywards members and offered to enter the numbers into the system. I confirmed, but I told her that I didn't have my membership card with me and that I would claim my miles afterwards. However, when I returned home some days later, the miles had already been added to my account. So the ground agent must have searched for my number and added it to the reservation. Very nice service!

Great job there!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
As far as I know, Emirates is still the one and only carrier showing the aircraft's registration in the flight info section

A very nice touch IMHO

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Shocked? No worries, here's the real amenity kit...

Wow, what a fantastic amenity kit. Good job EK!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31384 times:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Another fantastic report and great conclusion to your series here!

Hi Brendan, many thanks for your nice comments! Good to hear you enjoyed reading.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Shame you missed out on the EK A380, but nevertheless it looks like you had a great flight on this 77W. J class really looks fantastic here, great food and some nice FAs!

  

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Wow, what a pain just to try to get the right seat!

Yes, it was really annoying.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Great job there!

  

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Wow, what a fantastic amenity kit.

Absolutely, I was very surprised.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2596 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31349 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
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Hi PlaneHunter, thank you for another wonderful instalment of your trip report. Sorry to hear you had difficulties with your seating allocations. I think booking with the airline directly would be much quicker and easier  

Many years ago I also went to ICN for a stopover, although I didn't have as many hours as you did, so I never got the chance to explore the city. The airport is very nice, though!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
...and had no reason to complain about a lack of legroom:

Were you able to get out into the aisle without disturbing the aisle seat passenger (your brother?)? I prefer having direct aisle access. I think a 2-3-2 business class configuration is somewhat antiquated.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
...which were so effective that I switched to normal mode when I started to miss the gorgeous GE90 engine sound later during the flight.

Noise cancelling headphones are overrated  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
We left the gate 8 minutes ahead of schedule and I could soon enjoy the lovely GE90 start-up music.

You and I think alike  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
So let's see...Emirates doesn't distinguish between the three 777-200s and the six 777-200ERs (what about the significant range difference?) and the A330-200 image lacks an RR engine. But everything else looks fine.

Perhaps you should consider writing to Emirates so they can change it?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
crabmeat avocado tian, peppered scallops, water melon and herb salad.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Korean beef fillet, served with barley rice, spinach and white radish.

Going on a health kick? Both those meals are the "healthy meal" options that they had on the menu  
Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
Btw, the CX 773 at the gate beside you in ICN (B-HNH) is the 1st 777-300 ever built. I flew on it Narita-Hong Kong in my RTW trip.

It's not actually, although it was the first one delivered. B-HNE was the prototype.



Boeing 777 fanboy
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31329 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Hi PlaneHunter, thank you for another wonderful instalment of your trip report.

Hi Sam, thanks a lot for leaving a reply! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Sorry to hear you had difficulties with your seating allocations. I think booking with the airline directly would be much quicker and easier

Yes, but sometimes you don't find the same fare there.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
The airport is very nice, though!

Absolutely. I'm still planning to go there again for spotting.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Were you able to get out into the aisle without disturbing the aisle seat passenger (your brother?)? I prefer having direct aisle access.

Yes, I was able to, but it wasn't easy. I also prefer direct aisle access.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
I think a 2-3-2 business class configuration is somewhat antiquated.

That's true.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Noise cancelling headphones are overrated

I can only agree!

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
You and I think alike

  

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Perhaps you should consider writing to Emirates so they can change it?

Probably they have already seen my report?  

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
Going on a health kick? Both those meals are the "healthy meal" options that they had on the menu

I know, but that wasn't the reason for my choice. I simply found those options most appealing.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31319 times:

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 22):
It's not actually, although it was the first one delivered. B-HNE was the prototype.

Ah ok, thanks! Good to know. I only saw it was the 1st 773 ever delivered and thought 1st delivered = 1st built. Of course, when you think it through, it isn't so.  



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 30953 times:

Hello PH,

great report, thanks a lot for taking us with you on this great flight. Good to read that EK lived up to their reputation. The food looks absolutely delicious. Sorry to hear about the equipment change, but I am sure more opportunities will come up for you to fly that type once more. And the 777 is also a great plane.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us...

What a hassle, good that you got a window two-seater at the end.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, I wasn't entirely satisfied with the drinks selection - ginger ale was missing!

What a shame   ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So let's see...Emirates doesn't distinguish between the three 777-200s and the six 777-200ERs (what about the significant range difference?) and the A330-200 image lacks an RR engine.

I guess a fleet listing where you won't find an error had yet to be printed   ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Classy wooden elements can also be found in the Business Class lavatories:

Hmm, ok, it might look very nice and classy in the cabin, but a toilet seat, I don't know...

CaptainRed


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 26, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 30903 times:

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
great report, thanks a lot for taking us with you on this great flight.

Hi CaptainRed, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
Sorry to hear about the equipment change, but I am sure more opportunities will come up for you to fly that type once more.

The fleet keeps growing and they even send it to MUC, so yes, good chances for an upper deck ride in the future.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
And the 777 is also a great plane.

  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
What a hassle, good that you got a window two-seater at the end.

  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
What a shame

So true!  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
I guess a fleet listing where you won't find an error had yet to be printed

Lufthansa's fleet listings have always been correct...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
Hmm, ok, it might look very nice and classy in the cabin, but a toilet seat, I don't know...

Better than grey plastic IMO.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3200 posts, RR: 12
Reply 27, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 30692 times:

Very nice report PH! Shame you missed out on the A380 though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us... relieved

Phew, sounds like you got a good run around. It's not just EK that does this though. I had a nightmare getting seats on the LH A380.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
most likely Koreans - and even though they were friendly and helpful, they were reserved and I missed a personal touch throughout the whole flight, just like on Korean Air.

When I flew DOH-ICN with QR in C, the Korean ladies were very friendly and chatty. Quite the opposite to the EK crew it seems.



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 28, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 30299 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 27):
Very nice report PH!

Thanks, Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 27):
Shame you missed out on the A380 though.

  

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 27):
It's not just EK that does this though. I had a nightmare getting seats on the LH A380.

It wasn't EK's fault, I couldn't tell them a code to look it up. KE was the problem.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 27):

When I flew DOH-ICN with QR in C, the Korean ladies were very friendly and chatty. Quite the opposite to the EK crew it seems.

Interesting.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1246 posts, RR: 4
Reply 29, posted (1 year 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 29642 times:

Hi PH,

Good conclusion to your trip there. Looking forward to my upcoming flights with EK now, although I'll be down the back.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
If you want to find out more about the different product versions and if you want to know which one is available on a particular flight, check out this link:

Thanks, very useful!



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 30, posted (1 year 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 29460 times:

Hello Planehunter


Great to see another report from you!
Seoul looks like a nice place to visit, I really should be going to Asia one day!
Too bad about the equipment switch, glad you got the 77W instead.
Actually the Emirates Boeing 77W J looks a bit more comfortable than the 380's J IMO
Emirates did a good job, looks like a very comfortable ride.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 31, posted (1 year 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 29146 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
Good conclusion to your trip there.

Hi James, thanks for your comments!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
Looking forward to my upcoming flights with EK now, although I'll be down the back.

Where are you going to? Which types?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Great to see another report from you!

Thanks for your feedback, Marc!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Seoul looks like a nice place to visit, I really should be going to Asia one day!

Yes, of course! There are so many great places in Asia.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Too bad about the equipment switch, glad you got the 77W instead.

Everything else would have been a big letdown - even a 77W with old cabin would have been very bad.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Actually the Emirates Boeing 77W J looks a bit more comfortable than the 380's J

Some people say it feels cramped in the A380 J Class seat, but I want to make my own judgement. The new 77W seats are 2 inches wider, that's fact.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 28643 times:

Hello PH,

Another great report from your hand, thanks for sharing. Great detail and great pictures usual. Nice to visit Seoul for a few hours as well, and EK does seem to have a fine product!


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 28642 times:

Hi PH,

Great report but nothing else expected. The meals look better than some first class.

I hope soon I stop being the walking version of Greek finances and that shall be celebrated by an EK J trip. Until then it's reduced travel in Y... I just have incredibly bad luck, passport stolen while I was sleeping at FCO (my bag under the seats...), laptop stolen in LH FRA lounge while visiting the toilets, oversleeping my 200 peso DG CEB-MNL and ending up in PR J. It seems nothing in my travels go right these days... I bet I'll miss my 1h20min LH connection at FRA next week.


Regards,

Lari



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 28617 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 32):

Another great report from your hand, thanks for sharing. Great detail and great pictures usual.

Hi Robert, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 32):
Nice to visit Seoul for a few hours as well

Well, rather half an hour.   But I want to go back again to see more.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 32):
and EK does seem to have a fine product!

  

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 33):
Great report but nothing else expected.

Hi Lari, thanks a lot! Good to hear from you.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 33):
The meals look better than some first class.

They look indeed excellent.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 33):
I hope soon I stop being the walking version of Greek finances and that shall be celebrated by an EK J trip.

I'm sure you'll be in that cabin soon.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 33):
. I just have incredibly bad luck, passport stolen while I was sleeping at FCO (my bag under the seats...), laptop stolen in LH FRA lounge while visiting the toilets, oversleeping my 200 peso DG CEB-MNL and ending up in PR J. It seems nothing in my travels go right these days...

Wow, that sounds very bad - well, except for the PR J Class part.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 33):
I bet I'll miss my 1h20min LH connection at FRA next week.

Hopefully not!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 28300 times:

Annyeonghaseyo PH,

Great report with EK Business Class! You just spoil me with your premium travel experiences, making me eager to read more of these from you in the future.  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What was more important was an attractive Taipei-Seoul-Dubai connection in Business Class on Korean Air (another new airline for me)

Wonderful! I did not know KE offered an attractive international one way fare in Business.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Orbitz quickly replied in each case and ensured that everything was fine with the reservation. However, Orbitz still couldn't tell me an Emirates booking code.

I am glad to know that your booking turned out well. I have read some reviews about Orbitz and to be honest, most of them are not too flattering…

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us...

EK must have acknowledged you as the one and only PH.   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
In order to get to Seoul Station, passengers can choose between a nonstop service (journey time 43 minutes) which departs every half-hour and a multi-stop service (journey time 53 minutes) which departs every 6 minutes.

It somehow reminds me of BKK’s Airport Link train system.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
A6-ECI belongs to those designated by Emirates as "Ultra Long Range 777-300ERs" which means they are equipped with private suites in First Class and lie-flat seats in Business Class.

Way to go! My experience with EK 77W is yet limited to A6-EB.. registrations.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
ginger ale was missing!   

What a pity!  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
vegetarian sushi with wasabi sauce:

How was the wasabi sauce? I always ended up being able to sing tenor after devouring it. 


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, when I returned home some days later, the miles had already been added to my account. So the ground agent must have searched for my number and added it to the reservation. Very nice service!   

I love Skywards! Not only because the earned miles will never expire, but also because their redemption and accruable charts are generous.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
even though they were friendly and helpful, they were reserved and I missed a personal touch throughout the whole flight, just like on Korean Air.

That’s too bad. How come? Could it be because of customer attitude in Korea they are used to act upon?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
We really liked the abundance of storage space...

Oh yes! For camera, notebook, everything.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Cathay Pacific 777-300 B-HNH

Well, hello there old friend!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
No worries, here's the real amenity kit...

BVLGARI!  Wow!


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
nd this appetizing selection of food did not make my decision an easy one:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Then I continued with Korean beef fillet, served with barley rice, spinach and white radish

Lovely! It would have been my choice as well!   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
a very cheerful male flight attendant (from South Africa, as I would find out later)

How nice! South African flight attendants I met on board were always cheerful as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
What I kept enjoying for the next few hours were different massage modes:

Really? Somehow, I did not figure it out on our flight to DEL last year. By the way, is there any Thai massage option?   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Here's my main course of choice:

I tend to differ. My choice would have Korean green tea breakfast option.


Thank you for sharing. I am glad to hear that EK premium service was abundantly more satisfying than the KE one. Perhaps, I should fly EK again. It has been one and a half years ago.


Best wishes,
Suryo  



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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 28039 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
I love Skywards! Not only because the earned miles will never expire,

Are you sure? I was sure that they had an expiry date, so I checked on the details.The blurb in the Terms and Conditions on the Skywards FAQ web site reads:

8. Validity of Skywards Miles
8.1
Skywards Miles are valid for a period of three years from the date on which a Member undertakes the relevant flight or enters into the applicable transaction with a Partner.
8.2
Skywards Miles will expire (and be deducted from the Member's Account) at the end of the month of a Member's birthday on/after the third anniversary of the relevant flight or applicable transaction. The precise period of validity of the Skywards Miles will depend on when a Member's birthday occurs but the validity of Skywards Miles shall not be less than three years. Unused, expired Skywards Miles, once deducted from the Member's Account, cannot be re-credited.
8.3
It is the Member's responsibility to be aware of both the Skywards Miles in his or her Account and when the Skywards Miles will expire. This can be monitored at any time online at www.skywards.com

I hope that you don't have too many miles just sitting there. It would be a shame to lose them. Perhaps now you have an excuse to fly once more. 


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 37, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 27043 times:

Hi PlaneHunter !

Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

EK looks very good here as expected or perhaps even a bit better than expected!

Too bad about the plane change and problems with assigning seats. To me, is not that surprising since you booked code share flights and thru a travel agency. When I book flights. I ALWAYS book with the operating carrier and NEVER codeshare flights to avoid problems.

Seat looks great and glad you had some nice sleep in it.

Food looks great and nice to hear that the flight attendants were very active with offering bread in addition to the food on the plate.

Very nice bonus to get a go-around in a 777; something I have yet to experience. I only have one go-around so far and that was in a Varig DC-10 at EZE.

Looks like you had an amazing trip with your brother.

Very much looking forward to your next report whenever it's ready.

The777Man



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8483 posts, RR: 55
Reply 38, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 27008 times:
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Hi PH,

Nice read and pictures, thanks for posting.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I noticed the equipment change from A380 to 777-300ER. Now it was even more important to reserve seats in advance due to the 2-3-2 Business Class configuration on the 777. I called Korean Air again and told them about the aircraft change, but they still couldn't help me as there were still more than 30 days until departure day. Then I called Emirates - and the agent shocked me by telling that she couldn't see any reservation on the Seoul-Dubai flight! She advised me to contact Korean Air in this matter and that's what I did, but Korean Air couldn't tell me such a code. So I started exchanging e-mails with Orbitz to make sure that the reservation was valid. Orbitz quickly replied in each case and ensured that everything was fine with the reservation. However, Orbitz still couldn't tell me an Emirates booking code.  

Finally, 30 days before departure, I called Korean Air again and I was finally able to reserve seats...it wasn't a problem on the Korean Air A330 flight, but the system still showed an A380 on the Emirates flight - and assigned window seats in rows 15 and 16 (staggered layout). Well, Business Class on the latest 777-300ER version ends in row 11, but the agent couldn't help us for the time being. He told me to call again 10 days before departure because, according to him, the system would be up to date then. Well, that's what I finally did and I was very glad to hear that 10J and 10K, a two-seater, had been reserved for us..

- What a mess, a problem with these kind of codeshare deals, not quite in tune.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
here's the real amenity kit...

- EK do have excellent JCL ammeniy kits, put's the competition to shame.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Korean beef fillet, served with barley rice, spinach and white radish. Once again, the presentation was faultless:

- Looks very nice!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
good decaf espresso:

- Decaf!! - no point!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 39, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 26730 times:

Hi PH,

Super report as usual!

Shame to hear about the aircraft change and all the problems you were faced with trying to reserve a seat. I bet it must have been quite unsettling, especially to be told that EK couldn't find your reservation.

The EK C-Class product looks superb. From the seat to the meal service, the super IFE and those wooden elements which I think are so classy. Shame the crew was a little disappointing though, they can really make or break a flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shocked? No worries, here's the real amenity kit...

Ah, that looks much better. You had me worried there!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While I was having a break before dessert, my brother ordered cheese and fruit, served on a nice wooden board:

That looks beautiful! So well presented.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the GE90s suddenly roared and the plane started climbing again - go-around!

I bet that was an exciting experience with those powerful engines.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 55
Reply 40, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 26437 times:

Hey, PH,

now that´s finally time for me to follow you´re story with the next one also available.
Well done, really detailed and also the number of pictures from Seoul, interesting.
EK looks like perfect in biz, something for me also, maybe.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 41, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 26419 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Annyeonghaseyo PH,

Great report with EK Business Class!

Hi Suryo, many thanks for your kind words!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
You just spoil me with your premium travel experiences, making me eager to read more of these from you in the future.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! I do indeed have some interesting J Class plans for 2013...so let's wait and see.  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Wonderful! I did not know KE offered an attractive international one way fare in Business.

I was surprised about that - no chance to find something like that offered by EK.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
I am glad to know that your booking turned out well. I have read some reviews about Orbitz and to be honest, most of them are not too flattering…

Really? I have always had a good impression of Orbitz.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
EK must have acknowledged you as the one and only PH.

Well, who knows...  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
My experience with EK 77W is yet limited to A6-EB.. registrations.

While you didn't get the latest hardware, you were still able to enjoy a great service on these birds.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
How was the wasabi sauce? I always ended up being able to sing tenor after devouring it.

Less is more sometimes...  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
I love Skywards! Not only because the earned miles will never expire, but also because their redemption and accruable charts are generous.

I think there have been some changes, as Quokkas pointed out.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
That’s too bad. How come? Could it be because of customer attitude in Korea they are used to act upon?

Probably. On the other hand, Gabriel experienced great Korean crew members on QR.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Oh yes! For camera, notebook, everything.

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Well, hello there old friend!

Really? I didn't see that anywhere.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
BVLGARI!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
By the way, is there any Thai massage option?

No, unfortunately.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Perhaps, I should fly EK again. It has been one and a half years ago.

Sure! A380 from AMS!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 36):
Are you sure? I was sure that they had an expiry date, so I checked on the details.The blurb in the Terms and Conditions on the Skywards FAQ web site reads:

Thanks for the update!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):

Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Hi Lars, thanks so much for your comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
EK looks very good here as expected or perhaps even a bit better than expected!

Better than expected, I must admit.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
When I book flights. I ALWAYS book with the operating carrier and NEVER codeshare flights to avoid problems.

But sometimes you don't find the best deals on the carriers' websites.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
Very nice bonus to get a go-around in a 777; something I have yet to experience.

Really? You should ask for one on UA! You deserve it!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
I only have one go-around so far and that was in a Varig DC-10 at EZE.

That sounds exciting!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
Looks like you had an amazing trip with your brother.

No doubt about that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 37):
Very much looking forward to your next report whenever it's ready.

Already posted!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
Nice read and pictures, thanks for posting.

Hi Mark, thank you for leaving a reply! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
What a mess, a problem with these kind of codeshare deals, not quite in tune.

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
EK do have excellent JCL ammeniy kits, put's the competition to shame.

No doubt about that.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 38):
- Decaf!! - no point!

I beg to disagree!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
Super report as usual!

Servus Hannah, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
Shame to hear about the aircraft change and all the problems you were faced with trying to reserve a seat.

That wasn't fun at all...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
I bet it must have been quite unsettling, especially to be told that EK couldn't find your reservation.

   That's not what you want to hear when asking for a seat reservation.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):

The EK C-Class product looks superb. From the seat to the meal service, the super IFE and those wooden elements which I think are so classy.

I can only agree.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
Shame the crew was a little disappointing though, they can really make or break a flight.

They weren't bad at all - it was just a personal touch which I missed.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
Ah, that looks much better. You had me worried there!

 

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
That looks beautiful! So well presented.

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 39):
I bet that was an exciting experience with those powerful engines.

Yes, but not as exciting as on the Jet Airways 77W last year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 40):

now that´s finally time for me to follow you´re story with the next one also available.

Servus Markus, good to hear from you!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 40):
Well done, really detailed and also the number of pictures from Seoul, interesting.

Thanks for your feedback!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 40):
EK looks like perfect in biz, something for me also, maybe.

Sure, you should give it a try!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1246 posts, RR: 4
Reply 42, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 26207 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 31):

I'll be flying LHR-DXB-BKK-DXB-LHR on a combination of the A388, 77W and 77W.



A300,A319,A320,A321,A333,A343,A346,A388,732,733,734,735,738,741,742,744,752,763,772,77W,788,Q400,DC10,E145,E170,E175,E19
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 43, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 26203 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 42):
I'll be flying LHR-DXB-BKK-DXB-LHR on a combination of the A388, 77W and 77W.

Sounds very good - but I guess you meant 77W and 773?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 44, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 25961 times:

Hi PH!

Great report as always. Been missing EK lately, and i am happy to see that they are more or less the same  

Too bad you missed out on the A380 this time, but i think a new 77W will certainly not disappoint! In fact, i think the J seat on the 77W is a little more comfortable.

I too have gotten used to all the wood trimmings in EKs cabins .. It was a little overkill at one point, but now, EK won't be EK without them   haha

I think i have flown EK enough times to know exactly what to expect. And perhaps this is why flying them gives me the most comfort (with or without any of that over-hyped inconsistency rubbish people go on and on about haha).

Many thanks for sharing, and hope that all is well with you.

Cheers,
Roni



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 45, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 25914 times:

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):

Great report as always.

Hi Roni, many thanks for your reply! Good to hear from you!  

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):
Too bad you missed out on the A380 this time, but i think a new 77W will certainly not disappoint!

No, the flight turned out better than expected.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):
In fact, i think the J seat on the 77W is a little more comfortable.

At least it's wider, that's a fact.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):
I too have gotten used to all the wood trimmings in EKs cabins .. It was a little overkill at one point, but now, EK won't be EK without them

I can only agree.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):
I think i have flown EK enough times to know exactly what to expect. And perhaps this is why flying them gives me the most comfort (with or without any of that over-hyped inconsistency rubbish people go on and on about haha).

Well said, Roni!   

Quoting ronerone (Reply 44):

Many thanks for sharing, and hope that all is well with you.

Yes, absolutely, thanks! I hope to see you here more often again.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 740 posts, RR: 12
Reply 46, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 25136 times:

hey PH,

A very informative report containing all the important details that any traveller should know/learn before booking. Your TRs are always helpful, well done!
Great pictures of Seoul and always nice to have a second (?) go-around on your flying experience.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
ginger ale was missing!

No A380, no ginger ale, humm what a night!  .

Thanks for sharing
Léo



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 47, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 24698 times:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 46):
A very informative report containing all the important details that any traveller should know/learn before booking. Your TRs are always helpful, well done!

Hi Léo, thanks so much for your comments! I'm glad you like my reports.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 46):
Great pictures of Seoul and always nice to have a second (?) go-around on your flying experience.

Yes, the second 77W go-around in less than six months.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 46):
No A380, no ginger ale, humm what a night!

So true...


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineHOONS90 From Malaysia, joined Aug 2001, 2999 posts, RR: 53
Reply 48, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 24685 times:
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Hello PH,

Sorry for the late reply, I was busy with school.

As always, excellent trip report! There's a reason why your trip reports get a lot of replies, and it's because they are such a good read.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, it was already too late to take part in one of various sightseeing tours for transit passengers. So we decided to make a short visit to Seoul.

Hope you are able to stay longer next time!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, taking decent pictures through the windows wasn't possible.

I've never been able to get a good night shot at ICN due to reflections. Could it be because of the slant?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Then the lady asked if we were Skywards members and offered to enter the numbers into the system. I confirmed, but I told her that I didn't have my membership card with me and that I would claim my miles afterwards. However, when I returned home some days later, the miles had already been added to my account. So the ground agent must have searched for my number and added it to the reservation. Very nice service! thumbsup

It's good to hear that there are still people who go the extra mile to help a customer!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
As far as I know, Emirates is still the one and only carrier showing the aircraft's registration in the flight info section:

Awesome! One thing that frustrates me is when I'm on the plane and I have no idea what registration the aircraft is. This usually happens at night, but even during daylight at CLT I couldn't see the registration of my US Airways A321 until I got to SEA.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
That looked really good...

I've always had the impression that EK had decent catering, and that picture exemplifies it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
While climbing out again, the captain made an announcement, but it was hard to understand due to the engine noise. He mentioned "Sharjah", but I have no idea what exactly had happened.

I guess that go arounds will be a lot more common as DXB gets more and more congested.



The biggest mistake made by most human beings: Listening to only half, understanding just a quarter and telling double.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 49, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24470 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
Sorry for the late reply, I was busy with school.

Hi HOONS90, thanks for your comments, no worries!

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
As always, excellent trip report! There's a reason why your trip reports get a lot of replies, and it's because they are such a good read.

That's great to hear, thanks!

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
Hope you are able to stay longer next time!

I hope so. I'm interested in trying some Korean carriers on domestic routes.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
I've never been able to get a good night shot at ICN due to reflections. Could it be because of the slant?

Yes, that could be the reason.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
It's good to hear that there are still people who go the extra mile to help a customer!

  

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
I've always had the impression that EK had decent catering, and that picture exemplifies it!

EK's catering is indeed excellent.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 48):
I guess that go arounds will be a lot more common as DXB gets more and more congested.

Yes, and not just DXB - the whole airspace in that area.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 50, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 24393 times:

Great report Udo  

Two points :

1/ I am still not sure about the fake wood on their trays and windows . Maybe it works in person but it is hard for me to be enthusiastic over it.

2/ The amenity kit should have a choice of Bvlgari contents for Men and Women as the Rouge is very Female orientated IMHO. Maybe Soir for the Men  

Thanks for the nice photos and read.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 51, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 23980 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 50):
Great report Udo

Hi Philip, many thanks for your reply! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 50):
1/ I am still not sure about the fake wood on their trays and windows . Maybe it works in person but it is hard for me to be enthusiastic over it.

Tastes are different!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 50):
2/The amenity kit should have a choice of Bvlgari contents for Men and Women as the Rouge is very Female orientated IMHO. Maybe Soir for the Men

Interesting aspect.


PH



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 52, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 22603 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 36):
Are you sure? I was sure that they had an expiry date, so I checked on the details.The blurb in the Terms and Conditions on the Skywards FAQ web site reads:

8. Validity of Skywards Miles
8.1
Skywards Miles are valid for a period of three years from the date on which a Member undertakes the relevant flight or enters into the applicable transaction with a Partner.
8.2
Skywards Miles will expire (and be deducted from the Member's Account) at the end of the month of a Member's birthday on/after the third anniversary of the relevant flight or applicable transaction. The precise period of validity of the Skywards Miles will depend on when a Member's birthday occurs but the validity of Skywards Miles shall not be less than three years. Unused, expired Skywards Miles, once deducted from the Member's Account, cannot be re-credited.
8.3
It is the Member's responsibility to be aware of both the Skywards Miles in his or her Account and when the Skywards Miles will expire. This can be monitored at any time online at www.skywards.com
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
I think there have been some changes, as Quokkas pointed out.

Yikes!   
Thanks a lot for pointing it out.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 36):
Perhaps now you have an excuse to fly once more.    

Absolutely as PH suggests here.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
Sure! A380 from AMS!

  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
On the other hand, Gabriel experienced great Korean crew members on QR.

Now you mention it, so did I actually   

Bye Asia 2: Private Cabin? DOH-MUC With QR In F (by akhmad Oct 24 2010 in Trip Reports)


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
Really? I didn't see that anywhere.

Do you remember this? Business And Friends: Cathay Pacific HKG-BKK-SIN (by akhmad Apr 29 2012 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 53, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22053 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 52):
Now you mention it, so did I actually

Hi Suryo, thanks for posting the link!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 52):
Do you remember this?

Oh, how could I forget?


PH



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 54, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21405 times:

Hello PH!

Nice report as usual, and EK's Business product sure seems impressive. The amenity kit seems great!
Shame about the equipment change and seat hassle, but it all turned out nice in the end.
Glad to see you had the time to visit Seoul during your connection, always a nice touch and a place I'd like to visit myself one day.

Martin


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 55, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 20943 times:

Thanks for the report. You have good luck with EK service. As we both agree, the best FA"s in EK are from South Africa (and Britain and India) in my experience.

Thanks for sharing.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineKDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 56, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 20330 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
That is good to know in case one misses noting the registration before boarding. Or with no opportunity of noting it on deplaning.

IIRC Delta now shows the registration on their IFE which I remember seeing last September flying from SFO-DTW on a Delta 737; I remember thinking wow that is pretty sweet  Great TR! Hope I can fly on Emirates someday  



NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 57, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 19036 times:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 54):
Nice report as usual, and EK's Business product sure seems impressive.

Hi Martin! Thanks a lot for your comments and sorry for my delayed reply! EK's latest J Class product is certainly impressive.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 54):
The amenity kit seems great!

Yes, it beats some airlines' F Class variant.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 54):
Shame about the equipment change and seat hassle, but it all turned out nice in the end.

Fortunately, yes.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 54):
Glad to see you had the time to visit Seoul during your connection, always a nice touch and a place I'd like to visit myself one day.

We didn't see much, but I'm planning to go to Seoul again.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
Thanks for the report.

Hi Alex, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
You have good luck with EK service.

Yes, I have no reason to complain about EK. It has treated me well in most cases.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
As we both agree, the best FA"s in EK are from South Africa (and Britain and India) in my experience.

No doubt about that!

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 56):
IIRC Delta now shows the registration on their IFE which I remember seeing last September flying from SFO-DTW on a Delta 737; I remember thinking wow that is pretty sweet

That's a nice surprise!

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 56):
Great TR! Hope I can fly on Emirates someday

Thank you! I'm sure you'd enjoy EK.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 19011 times:

Great Great trip report as usual ph.

As Irish Ayes says thanks setting the standards so high.
I am working towards reaching your level. It might take some time though  
EK business class has always impressed me
I flew Ek a lot as a kid but its been a while since I sampled any of there products.
The new business class on there 380 is better i feel.
No 2-3-2 configeration and much more privacy. Do you emirates is planing to retire the 343 , 345 and 346?
What do you think a good replacement is? 333 and 350 series?

Well done once again

Cheers

Pradat.

P.S.

Here are my trip reports. Let me know how I can on them further

DEL-FRA-ATL On J Class With Lufthansa (by planiac787 Jan 11 2013 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 59, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 17957 times:

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
Great Great trip report as usual ph.

Hi Pradat, thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
As Irish Ayes says thanks setting the standards so high.
I am working towards reaching your level. It might take some time though

I'm glad to hear you enjoy my reports! Let me tell you that I also enjoy yours!

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
EK business class has always impressed me

The latest variant is certainly impressive - but they still have some older versions in the fleet.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
The new business class on there 380 is better i feel.

There are certainly some advantages on the A380, e.g. the bar. But some peoople suggest that seats are too narrow.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
No 2-3-2 configeration and much more privacy.

The middle seat is indeed bad - but the two-seaters are perfect when traveling with a partner.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
Do you emirates is planing to retire the 343 , 345 and 346?

The A343s should leave the fleet this year, but I'm not sure about the A345s' retirement. EK once ordered A346s, but never took delivery.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
What do you think a good replacement is? 333 and 350 series?

No chance any more for A333s - EK wants larger planes. 77Ws and A350s will replace older planes.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 58):
Here are my trip reports. Let me know how I can on them further

Thanks for the link! I enjoyed it.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinebps3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 60, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15951 times:

Hi PH,

excellent trip report and am certainly looking forward to my first EK experience coming up in May BNE-DXB-HAM and MUC-DXB- BNE. Glad I booked directly through the QF website so was able to reserve seats at time of booking as I was also afraid of being stuck in the middle seat in EK's business class. Let's hope the only A388 flight from MUC to DXB will not be changed. Also looks like to long haul segments between Oz and Dubai will be with the latest business class version. Perhaps I will finally manage to put a trip report together.

Cheers from Brisbane,

Peter


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 61, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13734 times:

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 60):
excellent trip report and am certainly looking forward to my first EK experience coming up in May BNE-DXB-HAM and MUC-DXB- BNE.

Hi Peter, thanks a lot for your feedback! You made a good choice, you'll like EK.

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 60):
Glad I booked directly through the QF website so was able to reserve seats at time of booking as I was also afraid of being stuck in the middle seat in EK's business class.

You can also do that when booking on EK's website. I booked it on Orbitz, with the EK flight showing up with a KE flight number.

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 60):
Let's hope the only A388 flight from MUC to DXB will not be changed.

You should be fine. A switch to a smaller type is very unlikely. MUC is an important high-yield destination for EK.

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 60):
Also looks like to long haul segments between Oz and Dubai will be with the latest business class version.

Yes, very likely.

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 60):
Perhaps I will finally manage to put a trip report together.

Sure, would be nice!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinebps3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 13546 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 61):
Hi Peter, thanks a lot for your feedback! You made a good choice, you'll like EK.

Hi PH,

glad I apparently made the right choice. Lucky me, need to travel to NZ in 3 weeks and just couldn't resist and booked myself in to EK's business class on the continuation of EK 434 from BNE - AKL and coming back on EK 435 AKL-BNE. This way I can already get an idea which seat is preferable for the long journey to Europe in May/June.

Cheers from Brisbane,

Peter


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 63, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11381 times:

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 62):
Lucky me, need to travel to NZ in 3 weeks and just couldn't resist and booked myself in to EK's business class on the continuation of EK 434 from BNE - AKL and coming back on EK 435 AKL-BNE. This way I can already get an idea which seat is preferable for the long journey to Europe in May/June.

Good choice! How did you like it?


PH



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