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Off To Oman 1: Positioning Commute LH CCS-FRA-HAM  
User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9641 times:

First and foremost let me apologize for the rather poor quality of the pictures. I realize that I will probably have to take one less trip and buy a better camera instead. The point-and-shoot disappoints…

Background

A couple of years ago a school buddy of mine moved to Oman to take up a position at a company in Muscat and since then he repeatedly suggested that I should come visit some time. You don’t get presented with the opportunity to go to such an exotic place every day, so, after postponing the trip several times for different reasons I finally made travel plans and bookings for this October.

Making such a long trip only to visit even the best of school buddies for just a few days didn’t make much sense to me. I wanted to scratch a bit deeper under the surface and get to know the country and people more closely. Now, Oman isn’t exactly the brightest blip on Venezuela’s tourist radar, so I had to find a tour elsewhere since that’s how I reckoned I could get the most out of this trip. Europe or the United States seemed to be the best places to look for tour operators and in the end I settled for a highly regarded one in Germany. The story behind it is that relatives of mine live there and O could take the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone by catching up with them and going to Oman too.

Since the tour started in Germany I had to get there first, taking what our eye-opening fellow a.netter Alex/abrelosojos has come to call the CCS-FRA ‘shuttle’ with LH. A domestic flight to HAM was tagged on to get me to my relatives’.

The positioning route would look like this:
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Map by GreatCircle Mapper – copyright © Karl L. Swartz

The trip

Once the dates for the Oman trip were set the flights to HAM and back needed to be booked. That’s where one of LH’s ‘This weekend only-Internet only’-specials came in handy. The fare was approx. USD 650 return at the official exchange rate or USD 325 at the exchange rate that ‘doesn’t exist’, i.e. the unofficial rate. Now throw in all the taxes and surcharges and the total bill added up to USD 1327 or USD 670, depending on the rate you use. The latter may seem reasonable; the former is, in my opinion, still hefty for a weekend only-internet only special deal.

Anyways, the summer holidays, the election weekend and even Columbus Day weekend were over and I was definitely traveling in low season. The terminal, landside:
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I had done OLCI for the transatlantic flight (not possible for the domestic sector) and so check-in was a swift affair - were it not for thy friend and helper, the National Guard officer. He had posted himself at the entrance of the check-in area and questioned every traveler very thoroughly: Where to? What for? How long? How much (cash) do you carry? What do you do for a living? Where do you live? What do you have in there? I mean: some immigration officers ask you such questions when entering a country, but when leaving it? Even before check-in? Come on.

Check-in desks and the guy we all had to give interviews to, after most pax had checked in and he could revert to his pastime, working his smartphone:
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Shortly thereafter I went through security control and then immigration. Although the queues were not very long, I spotted one of those self-service machines fellow a.netter Miguel/mvecchi4 mentioned in the report about his trip to Peru. That I had to try out for myself! I was the only one daring to use the system at that moment and the immigration officer even took his time to go through the process with me step by step. Despite all the sophisticated machinery, an immigration person still has to punch some keys on their computer before one is released to go.

Duly stamped-out, I was now free to roam airside:
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FIDS:
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Gate 25 it is today (instead of the usual 12):
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LH’s A340-600 ‘Mainz’ arrived on time and is now being readied for the return to FRA:
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October 2012
Airline: Lufthansa
Flight: LH535
STD/ATD: 17:45/17:30 (pushback)
STA/ATA: 10:20+1/09:35+1
Route: CCS-FRA
Registration: D-AIHK
Aircraft: A340-642
Seat: 47A

At 16:55 boarding was called. Although it was low season, these flights are usually quite full and today’s was no exception. A cabin crew member later told me the passenger load was 230/260. I grabbed some magazines from the rack placed on the jetway near door 2L and went aboard. A male F/A was greeting the passengers at the door, checking boarding passes and showing the right way to the seats. As I went straight to the first aisle on the right he remarked: “Oh, you know your way around!” I noticed flight attendants throughout the cabin greeting the passengers as they worked their way along the aisles to find their seats. Here is mine (taken upon disembarking because when I arrived at my seat the neighbor in B was already there):
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Legroom was only so-so, mainly because of the IFE-box placed right where you would stretch out your legs. Placing my backpack on the side later solved the issue (overhead bins were full):
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It wasn’t cloudy only outside…
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…but inside the cabin as well:
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In spite of the healthy pax load, the boarding procedure was completed surprisingly quickly and after the ‘flight attendants: all doors in flight’ call we pushed back 15 minutes ahead of schedule. This allowed for a take-off bang on time at 17:45.

After departure the captain came on the PA to inform that the flight time today would be 9:45 h and to give details about the route and the weather forecast at destination.

Soon afterwards it would get dark:
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When I arrived at my seat upon boarding there were no headphones placed there. I let a flight attendant know and she asked me to wait until after take-off. When I reminded her of this later, she brought me a set – but it came without ear pads… Yet another request later I was finally set to also enjoy the audio part of the IFE system. By the way, the cover feature on Darjeeling in the magazine was quite a good read.
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Before the aperitif and dinner service ‘hot towels’ were distributed. These felt and looked much rather like warm napkins to me, very flimsy, but they fulfilled their purpose.

Then a G&T was a very welcome sundowner:
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At 1:45 hours into the flight carts with dinner trays and beverages were pushed up the aisles. In a very U.S.-like fashion the choices were simply ‘beef or pasta’. I opted for the former:
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Here’s the beef – and some wine to go with it:
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It was actually a very tasty meal, with the meat neither overcooked nor burnt and well seasoned, the salad and also the apple tart being fresh and crisp.

After the dinner service the cabin lights were dimmed and the crew retreated to the galleys, although they would pass through the cabin at approx. hourly intervals offering water or OJ. I watched a movie and a TV show or two and then got up to stretch my legs and take this cabin shot before settling in for a several hours long sit-up nap. I quite like the reflections around the cabin.
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Almost halfway there:
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Around the time dawn was breaking outside the cabin lights were turned on again in preparation for the breakfast service. As the carts were pushed past the seat rows the promising aroma of coffee filled the cabin. First we got this:
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And then the coffee (or tea) and juice to go with it:
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The omelet and the cinnamon roll were quite good, the vegetable bed beneath the omelet was a bit odd.

Solid overcast above the Bay of Biscay:
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Eventually somewhere over France we start our descent and the clouds dissipate mostly, although the River Mosel remains hidden beneath a layer of fog:
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As does the Middle Rhine:
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I’m always fascinated by the land usage in Europe: (nearly) every bit of land that is not populated or forested is cultivated.

Soon we overfly Mainz, the namesake and sponsor city of this very bird, with Wiesbaden on the right bank of the Rhine. Even the confluence of the Main and Rhine rivers can be seen (right above the first bridge from right to left):
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Being this low at this point can only mean that we will land from the West. At 9:35 local time – well ahead of schedule – we touch down on runway 07C on a bright and sunny autumn morning. To my delight we do not park at a remote stand – as happened in 3 out of my 4 last arrivals – but dock at gate C14 instead. This section of the C concourse has been renovated, has gates and jetways fit for the A380 and from what I saw is being used for some ‘exotic’ LH destinations such as Bogotá, Caracas and Sao Paulo.
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‘Cabin attendants: all doors in park’ – this flight is over:
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Since my connecting flight would only depart in 3 hours’ time I was in no hurry to get off board. In fact I was among the last passengers to bid the cabin crew farewell. By the time I arrived at the immigration booths most of the people from my flight had already passed through and there were only 4 people left before me in the queue. The process would have been even quicker had there not been a change of guard with the border police officers between the passenger ahead of me and myself.

I had to make my way to concourse A but decided to go landside just to circumnavigate that dreadful tunnel passage. Besides, a bit of fresh air wouldn’t do me harm after the long confinement close to the blunt end of that looong pencil that is the A346 – well, the rear end looks actually pointier than the ‘sharp’ end up front…

(Continued below)

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User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9633 times:

No J or F ticket, no flashy precious metal status = no lounge access. I had to make do with any of the numerous food options one stumbles upon on the long trek from C to A. This interlude between flights was by no means boring, mind you. In these few hours the departure gate of my flight got changed 3 times – fortunately all in the same direction, so no back- and forth tracking.
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A36 ends up being the gate to be at:
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D-AISG ‘Dormagen’, the scheduled A321-231, will finalize my positioning commute to HAM today. In the background you can see concourse A+ (or Z, as it is also called) already in operation with an A380, a B748 and a couple of A340s being prepared for their flights to places far away.
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October 2012
Airline: Lufthansa
Flight: LH014
STD/ATD: 13:25/13:25 (pushback)
STA/ATA: !4:30/14:15
Route: FRA-HAM
Registration: D-AISG
Aircraft: A321-231
Seat: 30A

Boarding was called at 12:55 and despite this being an early afternoon on a Sunday the healthy passenger load took me by surprise. Upon boarding, the female F/A greeting us at the door also handed out an Oreo-type cookie to each passenger.
Another surprise, a pleasant one, was the great seat pitch as can be seen on this legroom shot:
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Although this wasn’t an exit row, it was marked as being for disabled people, which explains the more generous space between the row in front and this one.

Pushback was at 13:25 and after a relatively short taxi we were off runway 07C bound for HAM at 13:35, right on schedule. The new concourse A+ or Z can be seen on the upper left:
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During the flight the F/As did a beverage run so as to have something to wash down the ‘lunch’ we were handed out upon entering the plane:
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Soon enough we begun our approach into HAM on this beautiful autumn day:
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Almost there:
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Touchdown in balmy HAM (19°C) was at 14:15 on runway 15 and the parking position (a gate for a change!) reached in no time. A small but colorful selection of gate neighbors:
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Maybe a hint of things to come?

One last glance at D-AISG and I was ready to pick up my baggage and go.
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Thanks for reading. Comments and feedback will always be appreciated and, if you wish, stay tuned for the upcoming report on the real deal as this was just the positioning commute – although admittedly a long one at 10:30 hours total flying time.

Cheers
C.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9507 times:

Guten Abend!

wow really nice to see this report here - may I ask if you are german located in CCS?

Really love to see this report - well in 4 weeks I am booked on the same flight but connecting to MUC - well used the flight already times before but nothgin better than to travel for vacations to good old Germany!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
The latter may seem reasonable; the former is, in my opinion, still hefty for a weekend only-internet only special deal.

well now the exchange rate is even better --- but well for most of the people living here they are earning in VEF hence I have to say the tickets are very expensive out of VE

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Check-in desks and the guy we all had to give interviews to, after most pax had checked in and he could revert to his pastime, working his smartphone:

oh my friends...

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Gate 25 it is today (instead of the usual 12):

well looks like they changed recently - well not as good as 12 as 12 is right near of the lounge and after some rhums quite hard to walk all the way to 25  
Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
This allowed for a take-off bang on time at 17:45.
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looks like they improved the on time performance a lot (and not only LH) out of CCS the last years.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Then a G&T was a very welcome sundowner:

well on an LH airplane my first drink is always a german beer!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
And then the coffee (or tea) and juice to go with it:

looks not bad at all!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Soon we overfly Mainz, the namesake and sponsor city of this very bird, with Wiesbaden on the right bank of the Rhine. Even the confluence of the Main and Rhine rivers can be seen (right above the first bridge from right to lef

love the approach to FRA - well I lived near FRA for several years - but I love still even more the approach to MUC.
I am looking so forward to my flight - 2 years since my last escape to germany.


Thanks a lot for your great report and cheers
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlinefshplns From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9256 times:

Fantastic TR. Photo quality was great, in my eyes. Looking forward the next TR continuing on to Oman.

Chris


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8494 times:
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Nice TR, thanks for sharing. LH seems to have done a good job here, food looks acceptable!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Legroom was only so-so, mainly because of the IFE-box placed right where you would stretch out your legs.

Really hate those IFE boxes, especially on overnight flights!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
By the way, the cover feature on Darjeeling in the magazine was quite a good read.

That indeed was a great article!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8375 times:

Hey, good to see some comments already!

Hi Avianca:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
may I ask if you are german located in CCS?

No, I am what we call here 'made in Venezuela with imported raw materials' - but you are right in guessing that those raw materials came originally from Germany.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
in 4 weeks I am booked on the same flight but connecting to MUC

I've just returned from a trip so I will be staying. Some body has to vote, you know...

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
well looks like they changed recently

My return flight docked again at gate 12. Which would you prefer, the long trek from the lounge (with a few rhums between your chest and back) or the long trek to immigration upon arrival?

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
looks like they improved the on time performance a lot (and not only LH) out of CCS the last years

It always depends on your special friends the NG. If they hold a lottery and you draw the lucky number to have your baggage inspected, then the flight will not depart so much on time.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
I am looking so forward to my flight - 2 years since my last escape to germany

Have lots of fun and get lots of beer!


Hi Chris:

Quoting fshplns (Reply 3):
Fantastic TR. Photo quality was great, in my eyes. Looking forward the next TR continuing on to Oman.

Thanks for the remark. Next installment is in the works, due out soon.


Hi Brendan:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Nice TR, thanks for sharing. LH seems to have done a good job here, food looks acceptable!

Thanks to you, my pleasure. They usually do a good job but it depends to where they get the catering from.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Really hate those IFE boxes, especially on overnight flights!

Me too, but I seem to always get one...

Cheers
C.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6715 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7564 times:

Hi capicua,

very nice report - is that your first one? LH offers a decent product, but legroom on the long-haul fleet is not sufficient.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
First and foremost let me apologize for the rather poor quality of the pictures. I realize that I will probably have to take one less trip and buy a better camera instead. The point-and-shoot disappoints…

Your pictures are okay, no reason to worry about.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Legroom was only so-so, mainly because of the IFE-box placed right where you would stretch out your legs. Placing my backpack on the side later solved the issue (overhead bins were full):

One inch more plus a smaller IFE box and it would be fine.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
By the way, the cover feature on Darjeeling in the magazine was quite a good read.

Yes, I read that article, too. LH's inflight magazine belongs to the best ones.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
It was actually a very tasty meal, with the meat neither overcooked nor burnt and well seasoned, the salad and also the apple tart being fresh and crisp.

That looks indeed good.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Another surprise, a pleasant one, was the great seat pitch as can be seen on this legroom shot:

That's just one reason why I like the new slimline seats.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Maybe a hint of things to come?

EK?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

Hi Planehunter:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):
very nice report - is that your first one?

Good to hear that. No, it's not my first one; there are a few others.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):
EK?

By now you know it was not EK. But good that you took up the track.

Cheers
C.


User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

Hi everyone,

Great trip report. I truly enjoyed it. I can't wait for the one you have on the works!

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
I realize that I will probably have to take one less trip and buy a better camera instead. The point-and-shoot disappoints…

Hey, my last couple of reports have pictures taken with my phone. Pherhaps investing in a new phone (Samsung Galaxy) and kill two birds in one shot would be the way to go  .

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
I mean: some immigration officers ask you such questions when entering a country, but when leaving it? Even before check-in? Come on.

Idiotic, I would be impressed to see some kind of metric of the amount of people they've actually "caught" doing funny business with that particular "pre-checkin" interview.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Although the queues were not very long, I spotted one of those self-service machines fellow a.netter Miguel/mvecchi4 mentioned in the report about his trip to Peru.

Glad I could be of service! jajaja

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
Legroom was only so-so, mainly because of the IFE-box placed right where you would stretch out your legs. Placing my backpack on the side later solved the issue (overhead bins were full):

That looks uncomfortable. I've read about it in other reports. Is that box in all the seats or only in the window seat?. I usually take the aisle seat.

Quoting capicua (Thread starter):
looks like they improved the on time performance a lot (and not only LH) out of CCS the last years.

I guess INAC and the NG are the ones responsible for improving on time performance right? They're the ones holding the planes most of the times.

Keep them coming!

Best regards,

Miguel.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6878 times:

Hey

Great report, thanks for sharing! The pics aren't bad at all!
Surprised to see the A346 on the route, i always tought that LH uses 744's on the route!
CCS departure hall looks more like a storage building than an airport

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6795 times:

Quoting capicua (Reply 5):
No, I am what we call here 'made in Venezuela with imported raw materials' - but you are right in guessing that those raw materials came originally from Germany.

that sounds good!  
Quoting capicua (Reply 5):
Some body has to vote, you know...

yes - hopefully this time with a better result....

Quoting capicua (Reply 5):
Which would you prefer, the long trek from the lounge (with a few rhums between your chest and back) or the long trek to immigration upon arrival?

hmmm good question - would say the long trek from the lounge.

Quoting capicua (Reply 5):
get lots of beer!

for sure!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
Idiotic, I would be impressed to see some kind of metric of the amount of people they've actually "caught" doing funny business with that particular "pre-checkin" interview.

funny is the bs they are asking . years ago on a IB flight I was booked.

NG: so you are traveling to spain "chamo" me: to germany,
NG: why are you taking IB insteasd of LH - me: well its cheaper!
NG: why its cheaper? - me: ask the airline
NG: how did you paid for the ticket? - me: with my credit card
NG: why do you have a credit card? - me: well I am working and its normal to have a credit card

etc. etc. etc...

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
I guess INAC and the NG are the ones responsible for improving on time performance right? They're the ones holding the planes most of the times.

would say in most part NG - or in case of IB - well its within the booked service  
Well I really think that this has improved a lot during the last years but if I am not wrong the actual turn around times are also longer than before.

Quoting capicua (Reply 5):
It always depends on your special friends the NG. If they hold a lottery and you draw the lucky number to have your baggage inspected, then the flight will not depart so much on time.

yes - but finally the flight went out with a delay if they check last minute a passenger in general - and specially in the past these guys loved to check luggage already when all cargo, luggage and passengers were loaded - meaning offload again - check the luggage etc.

Cheers
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6281 times:

Hi Miguel:

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
Great trip report. I truly enjoyed it. I can't wait for the one you have on the works!

Thanks, man, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The second part is already out and part 3 is currently in the works. It will take a while though.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
Pherhaps investing in a new phone (Samsung Galaxy) and kill two birds in one shot would be the way to go

Perhaps. We'll see.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
I would be impressed to see some kind of metric of the amount of people they've actually "caught" doing funny business with that particular "pre-checkin" interview.

From what I hear, more people are caught at the opposite end of the trip.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 8):
That looks uncomfortable. I've read about it in other reports. Is that box in all the seats or only in the window seat?. I usually take the aisle seat.

I think that if you take an aisle seat in the LH A346 you will be spared the IFE box anywhere you choose to sit.


Hi Marc:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 9):
Great report, thanks for sharing! The pics aren't bad at all!

Thank you for reading! I'm glad the pictures didn't turn our that bad after all.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 9):
Surprised to see the A346 on the route, i always tought that LH uses 744's on the route!

Back in the days LH used the DC10, then for some time they sent a 747 Combi but with a stopover in SJU. After that it was the A343 for a long time until approx. 6 years ago when they switched to the A346. I still remember the local LH sales team gulping because they were given the carrot-and-stick treatment. They were told: You wanted the A346 and you got it. Now fill it!
It turned out not to be that much of a problem. With air travel (still) subsidized and lots of Russians, Chinese and Iranians traveling back and forth between their countries and Venezuela the flights usually carry a healthy pax load. I'm being told that up front in J and F it is mostly Venezuelan government people who have come to appreciate the on board service. And to them money is not a factor to ponder...

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 9):
CCS departure hall looks more like a storage building than an airport

Cozy it isn't, that's for sure!


Hi Avianca:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
funny is the bs they are asking

Yes, and they don't get tired of it.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
Well I really think that this has improved a lot during the last years but if I am not wrong the actual turn around times are also longer than before.

They have probably factored this nuisance in.

Cheers,
C.


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6264 times:

Hi There,

Thanks a lot for sharing. I believe you got a pretty nice flight. Food looked quite alright, not sure how catering quality in CCS is, but this looks definitely ok.

Thanks also for the nice pictures, especially of Mainz and Wiesbaden.

By the way, good and cheap food options are down the S-Bahn-Station, near the car rental center. Since it's in the basement obviously no views, but there is a Thai i.e. there.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6222 times:

Quoting capicua (Reply 11):
I'm being told that up front in J and F it is mostly Venezuelan government people who have come to appreciate the on board service. And to them money is not a factor to ponder...

correct - well the switch to the 346 was only allowed with bringing the First Class back into the market, LH is the only carrier with First Class in the market - and as per my understanding doing well - as you mentioned thanks to the government. also some years ago a brother of the president with his family was downgraded from F to J - as LH had a last minute aicraft change... you can imagine the trubbel LH went through...



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User currently offlinecapicua From Venezuela, joined Apr 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5560 times:

Hi Reifel:

Quoting reifel (Reply 12):
Thanks a lot for sharing.

You're most welcome.

Quoting reifel (Reply 12):
I believe you got a pretty nice flight. Food looked quite alright, not sure how catering quality in CCS is, but this looks definitely ok.

It was indeed a nice flight. No complaints about the food either. Catering in CCS can be hit or miss, but I think it also depends on the airline ordering it. Some pay more attention to detail, some others pinch more of a penny.

Quoting reifel (Reply 12):
Thanks also for the nice pictures, especially of Mainz and Wiesbaden.

Believe me, I had at least as much fun watching those cities pass by underneath and taking the pictures.

Quoting reifel (Reply 12):
By the way, good and cheap food options are down the S-Bahn-Station, near the car rental center. Since it's in the basement obviously no views, but there is a Thai i.e. there.

Thanks for the tip. It might come in handy sooner or later.

Cheers
C.


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