icanfly From Australia, joined Aug 2011, 76 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12502 times:
It had been a while since my last vacation and, while it was busy at work, I figured I should be able to slip away for a short week-long trip to Los Angeles, one of my favourite cities in the world. This time I decided to treat myself to United's BusinessFirst service across the Pacific and I was also interested to see how things have changed since the merger with Continental, as my last business class flight on United was back in 2010. I was able to get a return MEL-SYD-LAX flight for AUD 6,300, which seemed like good value.
My flight routings were as follows:
November 2nd, 2012 - UA 840 - MEL-SYD-LAX - B747-400 - Depart 11.55am, arrive 9.50am the same day.
November 8th, 2012 - UA 839 - LAX-SYD-MEL - B747-400 - Depart 10.10pm, arrive 11.20am two days later.
In this trip report, I'll let the photos do most of the talking.
I arrived at the international departures hall at MEL at about 10am, just under two hours prior to departure. I love the old-style moving flight information boards.
triple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 678 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12258 times:
Quoting icanfly (Thread starter): The window shades were lowered in the upper deck for take-off, so I couldn't take any photos of our departure from SYD.
Why? I fly AA between Tokyo and the US a lot, and they usually lower the window shades after lunch, so people can sleep. But I would object if I couldn't watch takeoff! That's the best part of the flight.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11128 times:
Quoting triple7man (Reply 1): Why? I fly AA between Tokyo and the US a lot, and they usually lower the window shades after lunch, so people can sleep. But I would object if I couldn't watch takeoff! That's the best part of the flight.
Sometimes the F/As lower the shades to try and keep the cabin temp down if its hot outside. UA doesn't require the shades to be up or down in any stage of flight so if he had wanted I'm sure he could have opened them.
brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3167 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10314 times:
Quoting triple7man (Reply 1): Quoting icanfly (Thread starter):
The window shades were lowered in the upper deck for take-off, so I couldn't take any photos of our departure from SYD.
Why? I fly AA between Tokyo and the US a lot, and they usually lower the window shades after lunch, so people can sleep. But I would object if I couldn't watch takeoff! That's the best part of the flight.
I am surprised they closed the shades before take off, the crews usually want the shades up so that in the event of an incident your sense of direction is not thrown off and allows you to see where, if any fire is, so that you can egress safely and depending on the damaged to the aircraft the shades won't be jammed in the down position.
Quoting United1 (Reply 2): Sometimes the F/As lower the shades to try and keep the cabin temp down if its hot outside. UA doesn't require the shades to be up or down in any stage of flight so if he had wanted I'm sure he could have opened them.
They often have the shades lowered at DFW to keep the sun out of the cabin, but after the plane is moved away from the terminal the engines with the air conditioning running will keep the plane cool.
AirAfreak From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9901 times:
First of all, thank you for your contribution! It's actually quite helpful when you get to see the U.S.-based carriers reports on these transoceanic flights for last-resort comparison. I always look for options when flying overseas via foreign carriers first and U.S. carriers last. I won't fly United because I don't like the set up of the seats where you are facing someone, (e.g. BA Club World), but I'm glad you were able to have several hours of sleep (definitely helps) and had some eye-appealing meals on the inbound to Melbourne!
I hope you earned some valuable miles for your flight and again, thank you for your trip report!!!
SYDSpotter From Australia, joined Oct 2012, 112 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9890 times:
Quoting icanfly (Thread starter): I was able to get a return MEL-SYD-LAX flight for AUD 6,300, which seemed like good value.
Thanks for the TR, yes $6300 seems like a good deal. Out of interest, do you know was the split of passengers ex MEL vs Ex SYD on the flight? Surprised UA can't fill a MEL-LAX service on it's own.
Quoting icanfly (Thread starter): I had not previously flown in the upper deck of a 747-400. It really is a special place. It's true how people say it has the feel of a private jet - on today's flight it felt tranquil, cosy and intimate.
Yup, totally agree. Flew J on the upperdeck of a SQ jumbo a number of years ago. Was a very serene/quiet flight, didn't even feel like a commercial flight.
Quoting icanfly (Thread starter): I had ordered a vegetarian meal, but to my disappointment, the flight attendant informed me that no special meals had been loaded in BusinessFirst for the flight. I had called United twice prior to my flight to ensure my special meal was recorded on their system (as the online booking wouldn't let me select a special meal), so this was clearly some sort of system glitch or problem with catering providers in MEL. Fortunately, there was a vegetarian main course option on the regular menu and the flight attendant said he's guarantee that to me.
That's a little sloppy from UA, good thing you only needed a vegetarian meal. What would happen if a passenger required a gluten free meal or similar and they didn't load the meal. Go hungry for 14 hours
FlyFromMEL From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9854 times:
It seems that when you arrived in Sydney from Melbourne you boarded another aircraft for the continuation on to Los Angeles. Is that correct? Where did the aircraft originating in Melbourne continue on to? San Francisco?
IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2403 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9219 times:
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 6): Thanks for the TR, yes $6300 seems like a good deal. Out of interest, do you know was the split of passengers ex MEL vs Ex SYD on the flight? Surprised UA can't fill a MEL-LAX service on it's own.
They probably could but don't have the aircraft for it.
UA were actually the first to announce MEL-LAX non-stop and then QF jumped in on the act too, but the latter had the 747-400ER which gave them a competitive edge. UA pulled back and moved back to a MEL-SYD-LAX op but with a scisor hub for SFO flights at SYD.
Since then though, VA flies MEL-LAX a few times a week, and would likely expand flights but do not have more aircraft to do this. Could be interesting to see if DL commence or move their flights to MEL at some point as they have the 77L which suits the MEL-LAX route perfectly,
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5336 posts, RR: 11 Reply 10, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8694 times:
Regarding tail numbers, you KNOW you can get aircraft number from United's website? Starting three days before, in fact. It often changes before flight, though, so if registrations are something you log, then you'll want to check back.
You can also get your aircraft number from the United app.
It's easy to figure out the N-number once you've got the fleet number.
Anyhow, the service looks like it was pretty nice.
As much as I'd like UA to remain a three-class carrier, they've pushed themselves out of the market, by charging first-class fares, while only offering business-class service, plus one entree choice. They claim that the wine and spirits menu is fancier in F; okay, if you say so, but any glass of wine they serve me onboard is NOT going to be worth an extra $6000.
gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7796 times:
Nice report! UA seems acceptable in the air. Nothing special.
Quoting icanfly (Thread starter): As mentioned, I was given the vegetarian main course, spinach cannelloni with four-cheese sauce and roasted tomatoes with parmesan cheese. It was soggy, tasteless and disappointing. To drink I chose a nice Sonoma Valley Chardonnay recommended by the FA.
IrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1727 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7644 times:
Hi,
Nice TR. Your're lucky you had the IPTE-configured BusinessFirst. I flew on the non-configured version the other week in BF and the IFE was such a joke.
Unacceptable that UA failed to load your vegetarian meal. Yet, not surprising.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7271 times:
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12): Nice TR. Your're lucky you had the IPTE-configured BusinessFirst. I flew on the non-configured version the other week in BF and the IFE was such a joke.
Apparently you hit the jackpot as there are only 6 non IPTE aircraft left in the overseas fleet....all of the 744s have been converted for several years.
BNEFlyer From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6019 times:
Thanks for writing such a detailed report. Not that I'm a C class aficionado, but nothing about UA would encourage me to fly them. Mediocre lounges, plastic cups for pre departure drinks, unappealing and poorly presented food, tacky serviettes, the glasswear and crockery, that seat configuration, no thanks.
fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93 Reply 15, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
About a hundred pics too many but I'm glad it was nice for you. Upgraded 747 looked nice. Typical UA international LH food. How as the vacation?