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A 767 Affair: The Classic Aussie Route  
User currently offlinepilotschnitzel From Australia, joined Jun 2011, 143 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9647 times:



Well what can I say? Both legs of Melbourne to Sydney on a QF 767 is a much appreciated change than DJ's 73's. I know it's a route covered many times before but it probably be the last time I'm on Qantas for a while so hope you enjoy my report, plus it had a few interesting turns I wasn't expecting, please read on to read what happened! Sorry about the photo quality!

BACKGROUND

Saturday night, a call to the grandparents and it was decided that we would go to Sydney for a few days for family reasons. This meant we were definitely flying Qantas as one of the 3 travelers is a platinum frequent flyer. Not long after, the searching for suitable flights begun. As we live quite a drive from Melbourne, 1100 was roughly the time we wanted to leave. The cheapest was scheduled for 1100 on Tuesday so it we booked. Originally we wanted to come back Thursday but there were no red-e-deal options available for the afternoon and no way did we want to drive at night so we looked at Friday morning, and the cheapest was a 0745 departure which was decided on. In all the rush I almost forgot to check the aircraft operating it. I was over the moon that both were 767 sectors, not the 73's aircraft I'm always on. Being a platinum booking we could chose seats and no way did I want to be stuck at the back. Outbound, the available seats forward of the wing were limited but I was lucky enough together a window seat. On the way back the plane looked empty so I got us as far forward as possible. As time went on, some seats opened up (for the inbound flight) right behind business and on this configuration they are separate from main economy, I jumped on them moving all 3 of us up. A quick check of the layouts on Qantas website confirmed my suspicion that wed be on the ZX series. I'd flown on ZXE for MEL to SYD in July so I was hoping I got anyone else but ZXE.

TUESDAY

Despite my objections to leaving later than 0600, we left at 0623 which would bite us in about 3 hours time. The weather was not great at all and I wanted some driving practice.


Yours truly driving.

As we approached our normal break location everything seemed to be on time and we would still have time to go into the Qantas club. Getting about 10km from the turn off to the airport we get stuck in traffic, none of us have ever seen anything like it.


About 10mins from the worse traffic.

We eventually decide 15mins before OLCI closed I checked us all in (the joys of having an iPad) so at least they knew we were coming.


I think we all know what happened......


Getting closer to the airport, still packed!

Plenty of advertising on the drive in.



We arrived at 1025 (35mins before our flight departs) but due to the location of free parks (5 levels up) we got out of the car at 1032.



We sprinted (as much as you can with carry-on) and printed our tickets. It was then when I saw our flight was delayed! I love delays (outbound) and this one was most welcome. We got through security fine, I chose the empty line. Once through we headed straight to the gate. I was most interested in who we were flying.


Quick shot of the FIDS

O U T B O U N D

Route: MEL-SYD

Flight: QF426

Aircraft: 767-338(ER)

Registration: VH-OGG

Seat: 26K

Depature Time (Scheduled/Actual): 1100/1134

Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 1225/1255

Fare: Red-E-deal + FF points

LOGBOOK

1st Flight on VH-OGG
3rd Flight on the 767
Total Flights: 29


Our ride today.


The interesting tug that wasn't for us today, it pushed back another 767 at the same time as us.


QF811 arrival from CBR, a flight I want to take!

The airport had been closed numerous times that morning so there was a back log. Boarding started around 1105. The agents didn't seem too fussed about who boarded despite the specific boarding call. There seemed to be a steady stream of business people joining the line so after a while I joined the lined too. There was no "How are you today?" or "Thanks Bernard" like other QF flights during anytime of ticket scanning, a bit disappointed in Qantas with that. I experienced the same when boarding. The only thing said to me was "second aisle". I wondered down and since we were sitting near J it wasn't a long walk. The other two traveling with me boarded early so I climbed over the top and settled in.


I'm sure we are...


A slight error...If you can't see it, apparently the time is close to 2am.....


It's enough for a 6ft 2 person like me...


Clearing the ground.

We pushed back at 1134 and did not have to hold very long for take off from RWY 25.


Vortex, something I don't get to see very often!


Lining up.


Rolling!


Take off with the wing vapour!


Nice IFE!


Above the clouds!

The seat belt sign was off at 1154 and the service started. Both a snack and juice were offered and I accepted both. The juice was tasty and cookie was good but a tad crumbly but the juice washed it down nicely.


The cookie.


And the juice joined us shortly afterwards.


Cruising above the worries of normal life...


The aftermath....


After the rubbish was collected I noticed the cup dent was dirty...hmmm not appealing.


The cabin.


The magazine, which I never read.


The safety card.


My ticket.

After all this it was time to return to the ground. The F/O addressed us at 1219, the ETA provided was 1245 and to be at the gate by 1255, this proved to be spot on! We were also told earlier that the cabin would be prepared for landing earlier as the wx was meant to be bad, although it turned out quite smooth for me it's good to be cautious.


Descending through the those white non fluffy clouds.....


A SQ A380 on climb...


Between the layers.


Sydney....such a familiar sight for me.


The city in the distance.

From the description provided by the captain we would be landing on RWY 25, a first for me.


The apron with some nice toys.....


We landed at 1245 and took a little while to slow.


A couple of Virgin birds.....


Exiting the active.


The British on stand with the old tower in the background.


Crossing RWY 16R.


The QF terminal...


Gate number 5 for us today, you can see our reflection!

As always I'm in no rush to get off, although my companions get up straight away. They say they'll wait for me at the gate. After most people have gotten off I head up and ask if I can have a look up front. The Cabin Supervisor checked and they said come on through!



Thanks to the Crew!

I was there for a while and then for a change I said I'd leave them be as I thought they'd be boarding soon and the First officer let me out of the "airside" area. I thank him again and the gate area is empty.


Since it was empty I thought a photo was in order.

Once land side again we went to get the car but this took forever as they didnt have the car ready. Finally they gave us a different one.


Our car for the short stay.


The east apron from the ground.


The tower!


Hmm I guess the traffic followed us and they were kind enough to tell us (not really)!


A NAVY helicopter.

Once we had arrived at our accommodation the rest of the day was quiet.

WEDNESDAY

Between the "family" reasons of visiting I managed to squeeze in 20mins of spotting at YSBK. No movements except for a helicopter doing VLL (Very low level) CCT's.


Nice!


Yak-52


An old dakota I'm guessing...


A civil DC-3.

THURSDAY

Today wasn't orginally for spotting but as it turned out it opened up so I decided on a marathon spot from the deck, because, what kind of trip to Sydney is without a spotting day? I took over 1000 photos so I'll only post the interesting ones from my point of view. The point of today was rego collecting but that could just be an excuse for my poor photography skills...all of these are taken from the deck.

When I got to the airport train line the ticket machine wouldn't take my $50 note and the "customer service" booth was "OUT OF ORDER". I then proceeded to use my card which wasn't ideal but it worked. I caught the 0900 train in and arrived at 0923, I thought I missed both JAL and KE departures but I was wrong!


My first time seeing a Japan registered aircraft!


Also my first photo of a Korean registered aircraft!


Beautiful! (minus the APU exhaust)


My first dual departure shot from the ground!


The first time I've seen a BA departure.

FRIDAY

My alarm attempted to wake me up at 0400 but I was winning until about 0410 when it was time to get up. We planned to leave early so we'd have plenty of time, we didn't want to repeat Tuesday's ordeal.

We left at 0445 for the ~20min drive assuming traffic was light. The traffic was light (thankfully) and we arrived at 0510.


Airport overview during curfew.


It was weird not hearing a horn blaring every 5 seconds!

I N B O U N D

Route: SYD-MEL

Flight: QF413

Aircraft: 767-338(ER)

Registration: VH-ZXE

Seat (Original): 9K

Seat (Upgrade): 3J (Swapped for 3K)

Depature Time (Scheduled/Actual): 0745/0748

Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 0920/0925

Fare: Red-E-deal + FF points

UPGRADED TO BUSINESS

LOGBOOK

2nd Flight on VH-ZXE
4th Flight on the 767
Total Flights: 30

With the car returned we walked into the terminal, already fairly busy. Tickets in hand we headed to the main security point and 2 of us passed through with no issues. The last one through got pulled up. We had collected a few christmas presents and something caught the screeners eye. We had no idea what was in them, since we had carry on we hoped we could keep them. There were a few interesting words exchanged, nothing negative but if someone "higher up" heard it could have been very bad. With the present unwrapped and re-wrapped by the officer and cleared through we headed for the Qantas Business Club.


Waiting for our presents to be cleared.


Entrance.

With the platinum FF card shown we entered and I shall document this as this was be first time to go to the Sydney lounge.


Our ride to Sydney in the background.


Our flight on the right screen.


I chose a smaller than normal breakfast but I felt quite full after this, and I thought this would be the better breakfast for the morning, but I was wrong!

Views from the lounge, no views of the RWY's though:



I left once I was satisfied. I walked through the terminal to the end so I could take my first photo of an EK A380.


This is the new feature of the terminal, very interesting!


My first time seeing an EK A380.

I walked back towards the gate when it was time.


The outside.


Revised titles?

Once at the gate we lined up early. Throughout the morning we heard two flights cancelled to Melbourne so we assumed that everyone would be piled onto our flight. When the flight was called we presented our tickets. The first one didnt work, neither did the second one. The agent directed us to a man holding some new tickets but he ended up coming over to us. As he flicked through some others our name came up and we had BUSINESS! What an awesome surprise! We worked out since we were on a platinum booking and they needed more economy seats they bumped us up. Now I was wasn't too fussed whether I had a window or not, because this was the first time I have ever flown in J.


The excitement is building!


Almost there!

"Good Morning Mr Schiffl, your seat is on the other side, 3 rows down, we are currently getting some more headsets."

"Cheers!"


My seat for today!


Nice leg room!

Pre flight drinks were served but they ran out of juice early. I asked for juice and this request was carried through. Something I noticed was that they put the younger flight attendants in J and the old ones in Y. Funnily enough one of the F/A's from our flight up was on this flight as well.



Yummy!


No 738 for me today!

We pushed back at 0748. The captain mentioned a "long" taxi and I knew we were off to RWY 34L.


Passing traffic.


My second ever Korean registered aircraft!


The windsock.

We taxied onto the runway just after a NZ A320 landed.


Lining up


Starting our 500ft AGL turn as by the SID, these are the Helipads I've never properly seen.


Climbing out to sea.

Once the seat belt sign was off they started the service. I chose the hot breakfast and I was still feeling full from my breakfast on the ground.



Once the breakfast tray was taken away I was offered another juice and I accepted it.


Some rubbish I found, even though it's out of sight it's still not nice to see, especially in J.



The dreaded brief from the flight deck that we were descending was sad. The service did end after my last juice was taken away, which was a little disappointing but it was a short flight. Then another message states we have been slowed down by ATC. YES! But it's only an extra 5mins and our ETA was 0920 which was spot on again.


The church, I need to go spotting here again!


Seconds from touch down!


Can someone tell me what happened here?


Not today.....

Once we were on stand I waited until most pax were off so I could say hi to an old friend (the plane not the crew). I asked the captain directly and he said come on up.


ZXE my old friend. Thanks to the crew!

Once my visit was finished I proceeded to leave but the door was locked. I was tempted to try my card but I wasn't sure whether it would work. Some workers walked towards the door and unlocked it. He had a suspicious look on his face but I thank him and head to meet my companions. We head out to the car.

The drive home was long but at least it was during the day!


Next year! Should be an awesome show.

Well my fellow anetters my report comes to an end. This was quite a trip for me and I hope you've enjoyed the detail.

Thanks for reading.

[Edited 2012-12-06 04:30:24]

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User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2595 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9294 times:
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Hi Bernard, thanks for sharing your trip report.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
Both legs of Melbourne to Sydney on a QF 767 is a much appreciated change than DJ's 73's

Indeed. I would always choose to fly on a widebody over a narrowbody any day. I have flown DJ's 737s in economy and they're not all that comfortable, although for a 1 hour flight to SYD they should be bearable. I was on one for more than five hours flying SYD-PER.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
There was no "How are you today?" or "Thanks Bernard" like other QF flights during anytime of ticket scanning, a bit disappointed in Qantas with that. I experienced the same when boarding. The only thing said to me was "second aisle". I wondered down and since we were sitting near J it wasn't a long walk. The other two traveling with me boarded early so I climbed over the top and settled in.

Do you get addressed by name normally? I've never flown in anything other than economy, and have never been addressed by name on any flight.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
what kind of trip to Sydney is without a spotting day?

Indeed. The observation deck at SYD is magnificent.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
The point of today was rego collecting but that could just be an excuse for my poor photography skills

You're too modest  

Thanks again for sharing. I enjoyed reading it.



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User currently offlinethemit9 From Australia, joined Apr 2012, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Thanks for this interesting report pilotschnitzel, I haven't flown MEL-SYD for a while- I tend to go by road these days.

Let me guess...this flight was on 27 November? I was driving to MEL in the same weather with a 1 hour trip taking nearly 3 hours for my flight (which I may as well shamelessly promote here):

To Asia’s Vegas With MH Business MEL-KUL-HKG (1/3) (by themit9 Dec 5 2012 in Trip Reports)

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
The only thing said to me was "second aisle". I wondered down and since we were sitting near J it wasn't a long walk. The other two traveling with me boarded early so I climbed over the top and settled in.

With DJ snapping at the heels of Qantas in domestic market share QF needs to be on its A game and nail the small touches. Don't lose your place as a premium carrier.

[quote=pilotschnitzel,reply=0] take off from RWY 25.

Runway 27?

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
And the juice joined us shortly afterwards.

Not too bad for a short hop in Y- I believe you don't get anything for free on DJ?

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
I was there for a while and then for a change I said I'd leave them be as I thought they'd be boarding soon and the First officer let me out of the "airside" area. I thank him again and the gate area is empty.

As you said what a refreshing approach from the crew. Good on them.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
My first dual departure shot from the ground!

Great shot

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
because this was the first time I have ever flown in J.

Very nice to get the upgrade, Platinum pays off. After this there's no going back, I say this from experience...

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
The church, I need to go spotting here again!

Definitely gives some of the best views...

Thanks again for an interesting look at RPT Australian aviation.

Regards,

themit9


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8868 times:
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Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me what happened here?

That's a mock up plane for the fire brigade training.
Nice report, thank you



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User currently offlinepilotschnitzel From Australia, joined Jun 2011, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8562 times:

Quoting themit9 (Reply 2):
Runway 27?

Yes 27, obviously mixing late nights and trip report writing is a bad idea...

Quoting themit9 (Reply 2):
Not too bad for a short hop in Y- I believe you don't get anything for free on DJ?

I think it depends on the route, in one of my other trip reports I show that I got a little free snack which was alright, but yes most of the time you have to buy.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 1):
Do you get addressed by name normally? I've never flown in anything other than economy, and have never been addressed by name on any flight.

Yes either by first or last when I get my ticket scanned or boarding, same with DJ but not as consistent with Qantas.

I tried editing my post that contains the report within the 60min limit and it didn't let me, has anyone had the same problem? I plan to send an email to site admin.

Thanks


User currently offlineaussiepomm From Australia, joined Mar 2011, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

Great report Beranrd!!! Love the B763, and have flown a few times in J between SYD and MEL!

Funnily enough, I 'know' you, or at least we have a mate in common... (JL) and my initials are BP, hahaha!!

Next time in SYD, we should do a catch up, or, when we are next in MEL, we'll catch up there, and I need to get JL onto a QF B763, away from his DJ/VA B737's, he's not been on one yet, and I have a load of FF!!



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User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7669 times:
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Great trip report. Looking at your title picture at the top, I immediately figured out the date of your outbound flight. I happened to fly QF415 into MEL on 27 Nov, and due to that big storm and the temporary closure of MEL that morning, my flight from SYD was put into numerous holding patterns bringing the flight time to around 2:10. VH-OGG was originally supposed to operate my flight, but it ended up operating the flight 15 min before mine (I ended up getting VH-OGJ).

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):
Once the breakfast tray was taken away I was offered another juice and I accepted it.

Quite a substantial J breakfast for such a short flight. I'm impressed with the domestic product QF has to offer, especially for such short sectors.


User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7348 times:

Nice report. Been to Sydney and Melbourne on spotting trips many times and the church spot in Melbourne is one of the best locations there.

That is a mockup the airport fire crew use for training.

Quoting pilotschnitzel (Thread starter):

Can someone tell me what happened here?



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User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6132 times:

Great report, but with one annoyance. Stop apologizing for your photos! They look fantastic!

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