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Air Creebec Dash 8 Multistop: Montreal-Chisasibi  
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
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I had actually never expected to fly with Air Creebec on this trip to Canada. It came about due to an unfortunate turn of events far away from Montreal, where I had recently arrived on WestJet.

See: In The East With WestJet: St John's To Montreal (by palmjet Nov 7 2012 in Trip Reports).

PLANNING IS HALF THE FUN

Much earlier this year, while planning flights in Canada, I had researched into Dash 8 operators in this part of the world. It made perfect sense. When in Rome, or should I say, Canada, flying a Dash 8 seemed to go hand in hand together, just like mounties and horses and I really wanted to check off a Dash 8 flight in Canada for my log. I continue to love flying the Dash 8 and remain a big fan of this rugged little Canadian aircraft that remains a popular type for many airlines in all parts of the world.

For months, I had been debating about a possible Dash 8 multi-stop day trip, while I was in Montreal, with either Air Creebec (www.aircreebec.ca) or Air Inuit (www.airinuit.com). Both have Dash 8 fleets and seem to fly to some pretty far flung places in Quebec.

In the summer I emailed Air Inuit Reservations, explained that I wanted to fly with them on a Dash 8 as I was a fan of the aircraft and had a few queries because I was having trouble putting a schedule together that worked, and was not likely to see me stranded somewhere indefinitely in the far north of Quebec. My first impressions of Air Inuit were disappointing - I never heard back from them, so that was my cue to give them the flick. At this point I felt like Julia Roberts in “Pretty Woman” where she walks past the snooty shop assistant carrying armfuls of shopping containing expensive items and mouths to the shop assistant something like “BIG mistake!” while holding up all her shopping from another store, before casually walking on. I therefore focused my efforts on Air Creebec whose schedule seemed to be better suited to what I wanted to do.

Even before I had written to Air Inuit about Dash 8 flights, my original plan was to fly a multi stop Air Creebec flight to La Grande in Quebec, where I would spend an hour or so on the ground before connecting with an Air Inuit 732 Combi for a non stop flight back to Montreal. This was my ideal plan – as I’ve never been on a 737-200 Combi before and they are now so rare. Alex (abrelosojos)was lucky enough to experience a Combi though in Canada earlier this year.

This plan came to a grinding halt when Air Creebec suddenly announced earlier this year that they were ceasing all flights to La Grande so there went my planned Air Creebec/Air Inuit combo flights in any case. Back to square 1.

Further investigations however of the Air Creebec website revealed that it would be possible to do a day trip from Montreal (YUL) up to the small community of Chisasibi on the east coast of James Bay in northern Quebec and return, with a myriad of stops on the way there and back.

Flight YN927 would leave Montreal in the morning, before stopping at Chibougamau, Nemaska, Waskaganish, Eastmain and Wemindji and arriving at Chisasibi in the early afternoon. I would then be on the ground there for an hour before making the return trip via the same stops. I did look at seeing whether I could route myself via Val d’Or on the return, but in the end settled for looking at booking Flight 928 on the way back as the route via Val d’Or had fewer stops and I wanted to maximise my Dash 8 time.

Crazy? Oh most definitely.

I also looked into whether it was possible to include the even further northern airport of Whapmagoostui but schedules did not allow for this on the date I wanted to fly.

Here’s how it looks on the map, thanks to great circle mapper



And my flights within Canada so far-

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I tried a dummy booking to see what the price of a daytrip return was and let’s just say, the damage was not pretty. The airfare was outrageously high – over CAD$1500. I suspected therefore that Air Creebec did not receive any subsidy to operate these flights which is why the fares were so high because I can’t imagine loads would be high all the time. Certainly the fare was quite a contrast to the cost of my Skytrans Dash 8 flight in Australia last year (which are operated in conjunction with a State Government subsidy). Just feeling curious, I then took a look at Air Inuit again and their fares to some of the most northerly destinations were higher than it would cost me to fly back to Australia from London in Y !

Yikes and no thanks. That’s what I thought at the time. I’ll just stick to my much more reasonably priced Twin Otter flights. Or so I thought.

Then this happened:

To Twotter Or Not? Air Labrador & Air Canada (by palmjet Oct 31 2012 in Trip Reports)

So by way of consolation for missing the Twin Otter flights, while I was still in Goose Bay feeling very depressed, I returned to thinking about trying to fly with Air Creebec again even though I know my credit card was going to pleading for mercy. Let’s just say the credit card pleas went unnoticed and before I knew it, I had received an email confirmation after a seamless online booking experience for Flight 927 and 928. I was all set.

Welcome to Part 4 of my Canada series of reports.

AIR CREEBEC – THE NORTHERN CONNECTOR



No it’s not a typo - the airline is not called “Air Quebec”. Little seems to have been written about this Val d’Or based airline on this forum and I haven’t read any other Air Creebec trip reports in the past. From the airline’s website:

“Air Creebec Inc.'s beginnings date back to 1979. Following ratification of the James Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement, the Cree Regional Authority was faced with a unique opportunity to extend its activities to the field of transportation. The Cree Nation was a promising market and needed an air carrier whose main objective would be to meet its expectations. In the spring of 1979, the Grand Chief of the Cree Nation of Quebec and Austin Airways held their first of several meetings, which eventually led to the creation of an airline belonging to the Cree and called "Air Creebec Inc.". At the beginning of the new airline's operations in 1982, 51% was Cree-owned and 49% was owned by Austin Airways.

In 1988, the Cree bought out their partner's share of the business and has wholly owned Air Creebec ever since. This was the largest commercial transaction ever completed by Canada's aboriginals. Increasing from 30 employees in 1986 to 165 in 2000, Air Creebec is earning a reputation as a serious, reliable airline.

Air Creebec is also carving out an enviable name for itself in the field of charter flights, where it is respected for its ability to quickly and efficiently react, not only for routine services but also for emergencies, such as forest fires and floods. Our airline offers a VIP charter program for businesses, whereby a certain type of aircraft may be selected for a long-term contract.”


While I was in Montreal, and on its 30th anniversary, Air Creebec opened a brand new $10m hangar and terminal at YUL.

The once-fledgling airline now carries 60,000 passengers a year, about evenly divided between charters for companies like Goldcorp Inc. and Hydro-Québec, and scheduled flights.

Things certainly seem rosy for Air Creebec at present.

AIR CREEBEC ROUTES

The airline operates a number of routes radiating from Montreal in Quebec (which as Brilondon correctly reminded me, is NOT the capital of Quebec) and Timmins in Ontario. This is the map displayed on the airline’s website. Notice the error when compared to the earlier map of my flight?

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AIR CREEBEC FLEET

Currently Air Creebec operate two aircraft types – the Dash 8 – 100 (for all Quebec and some Ontario flights) and the EMB110 Banderante (for some flights in Ontario). This is music to my ears as there’s no chance of an aircraft substitution for the flight I am booked on.

I love the Dash 8 – I always have done, ever since my first flight on one twenty years ago in 1992 in Brisbane. I discovered the joys of flying to remote communities with Skytrans in March 2011 and again with Wideroe in Northern Norway in May of the same year. What better way to continue my Dash 8 love affair than by flying with Air Creebec on a multi stop to Chisasibi. But before that, I still had plenty to explore in Montreal.

MONTREAL SIGHTSEEING

The weekend before I was scheduled to fly, I spent much of it on foot, exploring my new surroundings. I was really enjoying Montreal so far. Montreal is unlike anywhere I’ve been before – it’s not Europe, but parts of it don’t feel North American either, hearing French being spoken but then turning a corner, and hearing everyone speak English, or another language, before switching back to French again. Montrealers seemed pretty comfortable in many languages – at least that was my experience. The old part of Montreal had a distinct European feel to it, but at the same time, it was also uniquely “Montreal”. So many comparisons get made with France and of course, Quebec, Montreal and France share a long and complex connection, but Montreal I felt, was truly unique – not French, not North American. The day before my Dash 8 flight, I walked up to the Chalet du Mont Royal on top of Mont Royal which provided a super view over the city and St Lawrence River in the background.

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The Jacques Cartier Bridge over the St Lawrence in the distance

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I had also spent quite a bit of time walking around Vieux Montreal (Old Montreal) and the Vieux Port both during the day and later one evening, headed out for some low light photography.

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Lots of public art in the city

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Heading for Old Montreal on foot. I could have taken the Metro but walking was much more interesting.


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I end up spending quite a bit of time in the Old Port area - now renovated with lots of places to eat, as well as small shops and museums.



Later, I get some dusk views of the Old Port and St Lawrence River - the fading light was very beautiful and the pink sky was gorgeous.

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The Montreal Clocktower (Tour de l'Horloge) in the Old Port, also called the Sailor’s Memorial Clock, which was completed in 1919.

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Like Paris, Montreal has its own city “plage” on the banks of the river during the summer months.

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Slowly the light is fading and the lights of Montreal start appearing

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The Bonsecours Market lit up at night - it’s a really beautiful autumn evening.

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On the way back to the hotel for an early night, I then head via the Basilica Notre-Dame again - with the Place d’Armes and statue of Paul de Chomedey, sieur de Maisonneuve, founder of Montreal.

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DASH 8 DEPARTURE DAY ARRIVES

Yet another early start, as my flight was due to depart from YUL at 7:50am. I am in a taxi this morning – not feeling motivated to catch the Airport Shuttle Bus and in just over 15 minutes after speeding through the dark streets and roads, I am at YUL and heading inside to find the Air Creebec check in counters.

No OLCI is available for Air Creebec flights.

FIDS this morning – yes, my flight is due to operate. Great to see the Air Creebec logo appearing proudly against all of the more well known airline brands. The FIDS says the flight is only going as far as Waskaganish but it’s actually going further north.

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I head in the direction of the Air Creebec check in counters – this handy sign spotted just inside the landside part of the terminal.

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The inside of YUL isn’t especially attractive –functional, if not a little cramped in parts, it feels a little dated and perhaps in need of a bit of a facelift. However, everything seems to work OK and I am soon at the Air Creebec desk handing over my passport. Two very friendly agents process me and as it’s open seating on the flight, there is no seat allocated. “You can sit wherever you like” and “If you get close to the gate, you can get out to the aircraft first when the boarding calls is made!” says one.

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With no luggage to check in, I am directed to the security/gate area and wished a good flight. First impressions are excellent and the experience is pain free.

Being a Monday morning, there are lots of serious, but tired looking business flyers so the queue for security looks moderately insane. I have my boarding pass checked as I join the queue, which thankfully actually moves quickly. My boarding pass is then checked again as I go through the machines –what’s with the multiple checking going on here? I am not on an international or even a cross border US flight. However, the security agent I engaged with was friendly and chirpy for a Monday morning.

At this point, I recall Marc (MSS658) experiencing something similar flying through YUL earlier this year with all the multiple checking of boarding passes.

After collecting my stuff, and entering the airside area, I decide to take a small walk to see what’s to be seen here. Firstly I pass another very long queue – for Starbucks, and then another even longer queue – for Tim Hortons. Clearly Canadian travellers are in dire need of caffeine at this time of the morning. I am with them but there is no way I am joining a long line for coffee. Instead I head for the newsagency which is selling cold drinks and snacks and opt for some juice instead. Coffee will have to wait.

Thankfully it’s a dry morning here in Montreal today and I am able to get a few pictures of the ramp action.

An Air Canada A321 getting ready to head West.

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A gaggle of Dash 8s – am I in heaven?

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Two of the baby Dash 8s are now in the new Air Canada Express colours.

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Hmmm - looks familiar

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Also looks familiar...

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I also see an Air Canada Express Dash 8 – 400 at the very same gate from where Marc flew out of earlier this year. This one’s for you!

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I then stumble across not one but two Air Creebec baby Dash 8s. Not knowing which one will be mine, I take pictures of both of them in various angles – so cute! To spice things up a bit, they are both in different liveries – the older and current colours are side by side, although they seem to use both logos/liveries interchangeably.

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I really like both versions.

Our departure gate is downstairs (Gate 8) so I eventually make my way down there. For some reason our flight is showing as terminating in Waskaganish (same as the FIDS earlier) - which is one of the stops on my journey today. I assume the flight has not be re-routed and check with the ground crew to make sure all is well.



The flight next to ours is making its first stop in Val d’Or and it will also go on to Chisasibi, albeit via a slightly different routing to YN927. It boards first – and it looks like a full load on that Dash 8 for its first flight of the day.

A short delay is announced to our flight as the crew had not arrived – we’re not expecting to be delayed beyond 15 minutes though so no need to worry. Finally, at 5 minutes past our STD, we are invited to board. The same gate agents I spoke to at check in are now here to dispatch everyone and I get another friendly “have a good flight” and a smile before heading out to the ramp. Thumbs up for the Air Creebec ground experience here in Montreal. Passengers are permitted to walk out to the aircraft and I am in the first batch of people heading out so I get a chance to capture the scene.

Today I will be flying on C-GAIS, which made its first flight in 1989 when it was delivered to Air Atlantic who eventually had a fleet of some 22 Dash 8s – making it a veteran commuter aircraft. The aircraft has spent its entire life in Canada, and was acquired by Air Creebec in 2006.

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I enter the cabin, and am greeted with a low muttered “bonjour” by a less than business friendly young female flight attendant and thankfully, I have a pretty good choice of seats being one of the first on. The cabin of “GAIS” looks clean and fresh and I plonk myself down in 4A.

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Leg room is good as it’s the emergency exit. I end up moving my camera bag when the door is closed.

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Seems like our flight attendant would rather be somewhere else – first impressions are pretty average. She doesn’t look overly impressed as other passengers gradually trundle aboard and perhaps the early start does not agree with her?

The view from my window while boarding is in progress.

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We end up departing 20 minutes late, and the aircraft is about 90% full for the first (and longest) sector up to Chibougamau. A short safety demonstration is carried out as we taxi out but I can hardly understand the flight attendant’s words – in either English or French. Good thing I am familiar with the baby Dash 8 and its emergency exits! Our cockpit crew consists of a fairly senior looking captain and a young lady as our first officer. Sadly there are no welcome messages from the cockpit crew, and in fact, no messages or flight information for the entire flight which I find very disappointing. As WideBodyRoga says – it’s a small thing and it costs nothing. We’re not all jaded flyers and a lot of people like to know about where we’re going and hearing from the cockpit crew is a good thing. Thumbs down for Air Creebec on this.

During pushback, I get a glimpse of an Air Canada Airbus with “Jetz” titles

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We pass a couple of Air Inuit aircraft getting ready for their flights north – both are in their newest colours, which are very eye catching.

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Sector 1: Montreal Trudeau (YUL) - Chibougamau Chapais Airport (YMT)

The first sector is to be the longest of the day’s flying, scheduled for 1 hour 25 mins. Take off is always fun on the Dash 8 – we have a short wait behind an Air Canada EM190 before quite a powerful take off into the morning Montreal sky.

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YUL’s main terminal area is off to our left

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The climb out is over the sprawl of the city.

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Not long after departure, and while still climbing, we pass by what I assume is Mirabel Airport. Doesn’t look like much action is taking place down there.

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The weather in Montreal seems sunny enough and there are some nice views of the landscape below where pockets of green are now turning orange and red with the change of season. We soon leave the urban sprawl of Montreal behind.

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The further north we head, the more cloudy it gets though.

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Once we’re cruising, our flight attendant starts some action in the galley and heads down the aisle with some food boxes. Seems like Air Creebec is providing breakfast. This is what everyone gets.

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It turns out to be a cold chorizo like omlette, with a bagel and cream cheese, plus orange juice and some fruit. Coffee is also offered separately. The omelette is tasteless and disgusting but the coffee was actually quite drinkable and the bagel was edible.

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I use the time between peering out of the window to flick through Air Creebec’s substantial inflight magazine “Destinations” which contains a few interesting articles. The look and feel is more like a community newsletter which is great, because you really get an insight into the communities that the airline serves and is such a vital part of.

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There is also a big article about the opening of Air Creebec’s new Montreal “terminal” for its charter flights. Accompanying this is another copy of EnRoute. Air Creebec codeshares with Air Canada on its flights to Chibougamau.

Safety card is well used - in Cree, English and French


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Time seems to fly by and soon I feel the aircraft starting to pitch down. A garbled announcement is made about our impending arrival at Chibougamau.

We land just after 9:30am, about 15 minutes later than the STA.

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Instructions from our flight attendant for passengers continuing on are not clear but as I see everyone getting off, I decide to just follow them. Thankfully there is a much more friendly member of the Air Creebec ground crew who proactively speaks to me after I responded to her “bonjour” with a “Bonjour/Hello” as I wander toward the small terminal building.

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She explains to me that it is a very short stop; that I am invited to stretch my legs and use the facilities and she will call us all in about 10 minutes or so for reboarding. Merci!

The weather here is overcast rainy, and a little chilly. Thankfully the walk to the terminal is short. The terminal building itself is tiny but well provisioned. A handful of people look like they are continuing on, but there are quite a few who are leaving us here too.

Landside

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Inside

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I loiter for a short time and find this interesting notice on one of the walls. Operating an illegal air taxi service? How do you do this with aircraft – it’s not like you could conceal from the world that you are operating flights? I guess it must be a problem though otherwise why the need for the notice?

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Sure enough, we’re soon being called back to the aircraft for the next sector to Nemaska.

Re-boarding the aircraft.

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In the meantime, a RR Dart powered aircraft arrives and parks near us – but head on so I don’t get a good view of who owns it. I am able to see enough of it to rule it out of being a HS748 – it looks more like an Executive Grumman Gulfstream aircraft? I later do some research and wonder whether it could have been the sole aircraft operated by Propair – a charter and medivac operation based in Quebec. A nice little surprise – especially as the whine of the Darts is like music to my ears, and takes me back to my first flight ever on a F27 back in 1986.

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The nose section of the Dash 8 while boarding

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The aircraft is now only approximately half full by the time the front door is pulled up and closed. The seat next to me remains free.

Sector 2: Chibougamau Chapais (YMT) – Nemaska (YNS)

My guidebook tells me that Chibougamau means "Crossed by a river" in the Cree language and the area has long been part of the Cree traditional hunting grounds. It was in the early 17th century that French explorers and traders came to the Lake Chibougamau area. No permanent European settlements were established at that time and it was not until the late 19th Century did the area attract the interest of miners. When gold was discovered in 1903, there were periods of intense exploration.

The airport of Chibougamau is located about half way to the settlement of Chapais, hence the dual naming. Chapais was first settled in 1929, when a prospector discovered deposits of copper, silver and gold in the area, and was incorporated as a city in 1955. It was named for Thomas Chapais.

Random factoid I discover later is that a crater on Mars is named after Chapais!

The leg to Nemaska is scheduled to be almost 45 minutes long but it turns out to be no more than 30 minutes in the air. As part of the pre-departure disclosures from our flight attendant, I pick up a faint murmur that we would be flying at 14,000 ft.

There’s no other traffic around and we make a fast exit. Good bye Chibougamau – see you this evening.

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Some water down below

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For this sector, there is a beverage service. I opt for a diet coke. It is robotically handed to me.

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The views are still stunning, although the patches of lower cloud is making things tricky for photos. I am still sitting here grinning from ear to ear – this is my favourite type of flying. We soon climb above the clouds completely.

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We manage to pick up some time enroute and arrive into Nemaska a little after 1025am, which is only 5 minutes later than our STA. This is a special landing for me – the first time I have landed on a gravel runway.

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The gear is now down

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Diving for the runway

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The landing is smooth though – and it did not feel different to any other landing on a concrete/asphalt runway. Very cool though. How many people get to land on a gravel runway on a scheduled airline route these days?

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I am then surprised to see another Dash 8 on the ground with a blue tail. This is no ordinary Dash 8 though – it’s operated by Hydro Quebec. I believe the airport at Nemaska is actually also owned by Hydro Quebec. I later note that it’s C-GJNL - a -300 model.

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Unfortunately the weather has deteriorated further and before I get a good look at the other Dash, it pulls off stand and heads for departure. Bugger.

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The terminal here in Nemaska is smaller than at Chibougamau and passengers continuing on are not permitted to leave the aircraft. 4 passengers leave us here and 1 new one joins us. The load is still fairly light. We end up being just under 10 minutes on the ground which reminds me of the quick turns on my Skytrans Dash 8 in Australia.

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In the Cree language, I read that Nemaska means “Where the fish abound” and currently has a population of just under 750 people. I also later read that it was officially known as “Nemiscau” by the Quebec Government until 2010 until the name was changed to “Nemaska”.

The region has its own website which provides an interesting array of tourist information about the area and what to do:www.nemaska.com. Sadly I am not stopping here today but will be continuing on to the next airport at Waskaganish.

Sector 3: Nemaska (YNS) – Waskaganish (YKQ) (ᐐᔅᑳᐦᐄᑲᓂᔥ)

We make a fast departure from Nemaska where it is starting to rain for the short 30 minute hop over to Waskaganish, which lies at the mouth of the Rupert River, on the south east shore of James Bay.

There’s the terminal and ramp area down below where we were sitting a few moments ago.

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Unfortunately it’s cloudy the whole way, with a few bumps just for good measure along the way.

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There’s a snack service on this short sector.

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When we get closer to our destination, there are a few views down below. Pretty sparsely populated now.

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A smooth landing later and quick taxi to the gravel ramp, I am joyed by the sight of another Air Creebec Dash 8 on the ground ahead of us. This is YN921 which had left Montreal before us and had routed via Val d’Or. I love it – a mini Air Creebec hub at Waskaganish! There are no other aircraft on the ground and we are all given the opportunity to deboard here to stretch our legs.

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It’s still spitting with rain as most passengers shuffle quickly into the modern looking terminal.

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The terminal itself is bright and spacious and I have a chance to take a couple of pictures. Nobody pays me any attention although I observe that the further away from Montreal we get, the greater the concentration of Cree people who are travelling (compared to us non Crees). Everyone looks very relaxed and people are just waiting patiently or chatting to family and friends.

Air Creebec check in area: they are the sole commercial operator into Waskaganish.

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Waskaganish means “Little House” in Cree, and as a settlement, is bigger than Nemaska, with nearly 2000 people. My guide book tells me that it was once called Fort Rupert, and is one of the three original Hudson’s Bay Company posts on James Bay.

Passengers on YN921 are called out first. I watch their aircraft depart.

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For us, a short time later, the ground staff start walking out toward the aircraft and a couple of passengers I recognise begin to follow them to my Dash 8. There are only 7 passengers now for the next leg up to Eastmain. Assuming the call for boarding has been made, I simply follow the crowd. An elderly French speaking gentlemen asks me a question just as people are starting to head outside toward the aircraft, but I have no idea what he is saying. I suspect he isn’t clear about the instructions any more than I am – it was all very informal.

Another view of the terminal building while walking back to our aircraft in the rain

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Next stop - Eastmain



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13441 times:

PART TWO

Sector 4: Waskaganish (YKQ) (ᐐᔅᑳᐦᐄᑲᓂᔥ)- Eastmain(ZEM)

Entering a nice dry warm Dash 8 cabin is welcome. Our flight attendant “welcomes” everyone back onboard - well she kind of looks at people and mutters a vague acknowledgement as they climb the steps. But I feel a little special – as I get a faint glimmer of recognition when I board - she’s now seen me on the aircraft since Montreal and sees a familiar face!

Once we are strapped in, the starboard prop fires up first and then the port one next to me. The sound inside the cabin is not overwhelmingly loud or uncomfortable. Sure it’s a prop, but I don’t find prop noise on modern commuters to be noticeably unpleasant. I find the sound quite comforting – sad person that I am.

We depart as the rain gets heavier – streams of water fly across the window as launch into the sky. Goodbye Waskaganish!

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The flight up to Eastmain is scheduled to take just 15 minutes, so hardly any time to blink. There is no service on this sector at all and our flight attendant spends the time up front behind the small galley curtain - we can still see you !

The forward cabin is now mostly empty.



Bouncing into Eastmain - on final approach. The crew seem to be really fighting to keep the aircraft flying as smooth as possible but the approach is pretty rough at times.

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Another gravel runway.

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Sloshing along to the terminal building in the rain.

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“Eastmain in the Rain” is how I would describe the next stopover. The weather has deteriorated and as the stop is very brief, nobody is allowed off. I am allowed to poke my head outside the door though and take a couple of pictures. I think the flight attendant has me certified as crazy by this point when I ask for permission to take some photos!

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Our Dash 8 rests in the rain during the short turnaround.

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Like Waskaganish, Eastmain is also located on James Bay at the mouth of the Eastmain River and has a population of about 800 people. Its alternate Cree name is "Wapanoutauw", meaning “Lands East of James Bay”. Also like the other coastal villages on Hudson and James Bay, Eastmain also started out as a Hudson's Bay Company trading post, originally called East Main House.

The airport is relatively unique by Canadian standards because its three letter IATA Code does not start with “Y”!

3 passengers leave us and 1 new passenger joins. It’s quite a tiny little band of travellers now still left on YN927. I don’t recognise anyone from Montreal, so perhaps I am the only one making the trip all the way to Chisasibi?

The terminal at Eastmain and our port prop.



While being turned around here, I can feel the wind pummelling the aircraft as we rock gently from side to side. Quite a strange feeling.

The captain decides there is something he needs to do here on the ground so he steps outside into the inclement weather and heads into the small terminal for 5 minutes or so.

Sector 5: Eastmain (ZEM) – Wemindji(YNC)

We are expecting a 20 minute flight to our next stop – Wemindji, further north of Eastmain. The sector is very short and very bumpy. Thankfully there is no catering or beverage service otherwise people may have ended up wearing what they were eating or drinking. Views are obstructed by low cloud for a large part of the journey.

The waters of James Bay now start to appear after we commence our descent

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Brrr looks cold down there!

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On final approach into Wemindji - it’s quite scenic but very bumpy as the wind is strong.

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More gravel runways!

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We drop into Wemindji and are the only ones on the ground. The airport terminal is very small – not unlike Eastmain with a similar design. The weather is not improving and it’s getting progressively colder (not surprisingly considering that we’re heading increasingly north).

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The stop here is again very short so nobody is allowed off the aircraft. At this point, there are only 3 passengers left onboard including me. One of the passengers turns out to be the first officer’s husband whom I end up having a chat to briefly in Chisasibi after we arrive.

Wemindji is also a small Cree community, located on Paint Hills Bay off James Bay at the mouth of the Maquatua River. The community has a population of approximately 1300 people. It means "red ochre mountain" and I read that it gets its name from the red pigment found in the hills surrounding it.

Waiting to leave Wemindji

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Sector 6: Wemindji (YNC) – Chisasibi(YKU)

We have made up sufficient time since the delay in Montreal, and we are now due to arrive at our final destination with only a relatively minor delay. Another very short sector is to follow – no more than 15 minutes in the air. I decide to change sides for a slightly different view for this last sector.

Where I’ve spent the last few hours!

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We say goodbye to Wemindji with a hasty take off in the rain.

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The last sector is almost identical to the previous one – short and very bumpy but the Dash 8 handles the bumps well. There is no food or beverage service on this short leg either.

We make a couple of sharp turns which, combined with the bumps, adds to the fun. The main landing gear then pops out, signalling that our arrival into Chisasibi is only a few minutes away.

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The landing gear is still wet from our earlier departure and the flight is so short, it has not even had a chance to dry off.

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By the time we coast into Chisasibi, there is no rain – although it never looks far away. When the props are shut down and we’re getting ready to leave the aircraft, I tell the flight attendant that I am coming back on the flight to Montreal today and she looks at me like I’ve completely lost the plot, and her only response was, “For real??” Perhaps I’d started to develop a bit of a rapport with her by now, or probably what is more likely is that she feels sorry for me and thinks I’m nuts. I don’t see her running off to notify Air Creebec operations that there is a mad avia fan on the flight so I assume she’s OK with it all.

The gravel ramp, with a concrete slab for our parking position.

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I am due to be on the ground for just over 45 minutes before YN927 becomes YN928 for the run back south to Montreal. There are a handful of people inside the terminal and some activity behind the single Air Creebec check in counter.

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I stretch my legs by taking a pic from the comfort of the inside of the terminal after the aircraft is closed up for a short, but well earned rest.

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I check in for the return flight manually – the guys here are super friendly and there’s not even an ID check. They wish me a good flight to Montreal – although thankfully I don’t get into detailed discussions with them about why I’ve just arrived and am leaving again.... that kind of behaviour these days sadly invokes all kinds of suspicions. Here though, the atmosphere is one of total relaxation, although I chuckle when I see a sign on the wall to customers about NOT delaying flights by turning up less than 30 minutes before departure and expecting to board. Air Creebec says that it will close all flights 30 minutes before departure and there are no exceptions!

I head outside to stretch my legs and for some fresh cool semi Arctic air – while the rain has stopped.

Chisasibi’s terminal building - compact and functional

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The landscape around the airport.

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CHISASIBI (ᒋᓴᓯᐱ)

Meaning “Great River”, Chisasibi is a village on the eastern shore of James Bay in northern Quebec. It is situated on the south shore of La Grande River, less than 10 km (6.2 miles) from the river's mouth. Chisasibi is one of nine Cree villages in the region, and is a member of the Grand Council of the Crees of Quebec. I really wish I was now going to spend more time here on the ground. It looks like a fascinating part of the world to visit if you love wide open spaces and wildlife.

Having said that, today, it’s particularly chilly, so I retreat back inside after 10 minutes or so and take a seat next to two elderly women who are chatting away.

This is the view from my seat as I contemplate the journey I have just made.

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Although it’s only just after lunch time, I feel like I have been travelling for days! It’s been a very interesting day so far. I don’t have to wait very long before there is increasingly more activity in the terminal as more passengers arrive for the flight back south. It’s not raining when I head back out to the aircraft to begin the long journey back to Montreal.

END OF PART TWO



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13439 times:

PART THREE

RETURNING SOUTH TO MONTREAL

The return journey mirrors the outbound flight, so I am not proposing to cover this in detail. However, I include a few highlights.

On the way back to Wemindji.

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The clouds break up for a short time.

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But then it’s very wet again when we land. It’s a short stop here - and nobody who is continuing on is allowed off. The ground stop must have been less than 10 minutes.

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Heading for Eastmain

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Pulling onto stand in Eastmain

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Descending into Waskaganish

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Back in Waskaganish, we run into an old friend, who arrives a few minutes after we do.

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Before we’re allowed off for a short rest in the terminal. The weather has not improved.

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Passing our neighbour where the last of the passengers are also heading for the terminal.

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Double Dash reflection!

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Setting off for our penultimate stop - Chibougamau

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Drink service on the way to Chibougamau - I have 7UP.

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The transit experience in Chibougamau is different to the outbound journey: all passengers continuing to YUL had to disembark and then clear the tiny security checkpoint inside the terminal – before being held in an even tinier waiting pen, and then reboarding. I guess with the aircraft flying into a major airport, security procedures are stepped up. The aircraft is almost full for the last leg back. They ask passengers with children to board first, which means I risk losing my favourite 4A as there are a number of kids travelling on this sector. When I board, I see that a mother and her young daughter are in 4A and B - bugger, but before I get too far down the aisle, the flight attendant is telling her that she can’t sit in Row 4 with her child as it’s an emergency exit row, so the lady has to vacate the seat and move somewhere else! Great timing, as I am able to resume my position in 4A.

Leaving Chibougamau

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Dinner is served on the last (longest) sector enroute back to Montreal – cold chicken pieces, some dips/pickles, pita bread, cold rice and some cheese and crackers. A rather strange concoction which, apart from the cheese, is mostly tasteless and far too cold to eat.

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The view outside while dinner is served. The moon is visible.

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Darkness has fallen by the time we arrive back into Montreal and we’re greeted by a carpet of lights outside. The view is beautiful.

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We land and taxi back to our parking position, which is pretty much the same spot we departed from this morning.

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This little Dash has spent nearly 12 hours in total today fly and it was time to say good-bye. Our flight attendant seemed a lot chirpier by the time passengers were disembarking and I had a short chat with her on the way out. I asked her how often she flew this route and how lucky she was. She seemed a little pleased at this – although I still saw that “you’re nuts” look in her eyes as I climb down the front airstairs. Au-revoir to you!

One last look at C-GAIS, now ready for a well earned overnight rest.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

By the time I get back to my hotel after 8pm that night, I’d been on the road for a long time. As the 747 Airport Shuttle bus weaves its way through traffic and enters the outskirts of Montreal’s downtown, I reflect on my Air Creebec experience.

The good:

- I was able to add another Dash 8 multi-stop flight to my log
- Ground service staff were lovely from Montreal all the way through to Chisasibi
- I was fortunate to see more of the amazing landscapes Canada, and in particular, northern Quebec
- No flight sectors were heavily delayed or cancelled
- I was able to see what a vital part Air Creebec plays in serving the communities it flies to

The not so good:

- Air Creebec’s airfares are very high
- Onboard service was less than warm or friendly, and was inconsistent with the other positive experiences on the ground
- No engagement with the cockpit crew - no flying information provided on any sector and no welcome announcements. It’s the little things sometimes.
- Food, while a nice gesture, was largely forgettable. Something simpler may have been tastier and perhaps more cost effective?

Having said that, I still really enjoyed the day’s flying because I was flying with a new airline to places I had never been to before. Air Creebec provide a pretty good standard of reliable air transport to the far flung communities in Quebec who are reliant on fast and regular services to connect them through to Montreal and beyond.

By co-incidence, I recently happened to stumble across an old September/October 1995 edition of “Airliners” Magazine, where an article on Air Creebec featured. It was called “Flying the Great White North with Air Creebec” which was written by Robert Grant. I found the article fascinating because the author travelled with Air Creebec on some of the same sectors that I travelled on, although in addition to the Dash 8, back then, Air Creebec was operating B1900Ds.

Those B1900D days seem to be long gone for Air Creebec today, but that’s OK – I’d had my fill of B1900Ds in Canada on this trip. Mission accomplished this time: I’d added another Dash 8 multi stop – the challenge now is to find the next one!

Thanks for reading - comments are very welcome.



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13265 times:

Hi there,

A very rare and unusual TR this is! I loved the fact that we get a TR of an airline I honestly as a European didn't know it existed.

After having seen the Nemaska website it kindoff tickles inside of me to take a flight to Canada from Brussels and go canoeing for a week or 2 in Nemaska.

It was a bit sad to read that the FA wasn't really paying attention to any passenger, just being indifferent and doing her job without any extra's.

Anyways, thanks for the TR! I really enjoyed reading it, just like your previous TR's.

Greetings,

Tom



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1261 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12741 times:

Very interesting. This is what I always pictured Canada to look like; forests and lakes. Beautiful.

User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5129 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12604 times:

Hey there - sorry it has taken me a while to get back to all the backlog of things to read. As some know, I have been locked up in the Western Hemisphere (ugly city) on a key merger that will soon be announced ... (


Live, and let live.
User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12601 times:

Wow this is a great report!

It is so interesting to read about regional flying in Quebec, and sorry to hear that qualify of the flight is not great, which is unusual for these regional airlines. But I guess the multiple legs are not particularly fun for the crew.

Yes the food is not good at all... cold omelet does not sound good. They should have stick with a basic continental fare with larger pastry, yogurt, and cereals, and then for the return, a simpler protein salad or sandwich with chips will be nice. The food is too complicated.

Thanks again for the report!

Carfield


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12589 times:

Hi there pj,

Good to see another Dash 8 report from you  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
tried a dummy booking to see what the price of a daytrip return was and let’s just say, the damage was not pretty. The airfare was outrageously high – over CAD$1500

Wow. That's "a bit expensive" from my perspective. Surely it's interesting, but I wouldn't pay that for a daytrip.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
So by way of consolation for missing the Twin Otter flights, while I was still in Goose Bay feeling very depressed, I returned to thinking about trying to fly with Air Creebec again even though I know my credit card was going to pleading for mercy. Let’s just say the credit card pleas went unnoticed and before I knew it, I had received an email confirmation after a seamless online booking experience for Flight 927 and 928. I was all set.

Easy online booking. Well done, Air Creebec. Well, aside from the prices for us mere mortals!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I love the Dash 8 – I always have done, ever since my first flight on one twenty years ago in 1992 in Brisbane. I discovered the joys of flying to remote communities with Skytrans in March 2011 and again with Wideroe in Northern Norway in May of the same year.

Yes, and the more segments, the better, isn't it? Great little aircraft. 500 m of runway is more than enough!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I end up spending quite a bit of time in the Old Port area - now renovated with lots of places to eat, as well as small shops and museums.

Vieux-Montreal is kinda grey. The weather wasn't the best when I was there, and nor was my health...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
On the way back to the hotel for an early night, I then head via the Basilica Notre-Dame again - with the Place d’Armes and statue of Paul de Chomedey, sieur de Maisonneuve, founder of Montreal.

On the other hand, I really enjoyed this church!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I then stumble across not one but two Air Creebec baby Dash 8s. Not knowing which one will be mine, I take pictures of both of them in various angles – so cute! To spice things up a bit, they are both in different liveries – the older and current colours are side by side, although they seem to use both logos/liveries interchangeably.

I like the first one better myself. Even if it's more old-fashioned.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Take off is always fun on the Dash 8 – we have a short wait behind an Air Canada EM190 before quite a powerful take off into the morning Montreal sky.

Ah, yes, takeoff in a Dash 8 is always good.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
It turns out to be a cold chorizo like omlette, with a bagel and cream cheese, plus orange juice and some fruit. Coffee is also offered separately. The omelette is tasteless and disgusting but the coffee was actually quite drinkable and the bagel was edible.

Doesn't look too good. But still better than the breakfast DL offers transatlantically, that's for sure.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I loiter for a short time and find this interesting notice on one of the walls. Operating an illegal air taxi service? How do you do this with aircraft – it’s not like you could conceal from the world that you are operating flights? I guess it must be a problem though otherwise why the need for the notice?

Nevermind that... Why an emu? I get it's a flightless bird, but an emu in Canada? Strange.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Sure it’s a prop, but I don’t find prop noise on modern commuters to be noticeably unpleasant. I find the sound quite comforting – sad person that I am.

Why sad? I guess we're all sad people then, here on this site 
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
although thankfully I don’t get into detailed discussions with them about why I’ve just arrived and am leaving again.... that kind of behaviour these days sadly invokes all kinds of suspicions.

Unfortunately, that does seem to be the case in most places. It's quite sad.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Having said that, I still really enjoyed the day’s flying because I was flying with a new airline to places I had never been to before. Air Creebec provide a pretty good standard of reliable air transport to the far flung communities in Quebec who are reliant on fast and regular services to connect them through to Montreal and beyond.

I agree. Getting to Northern Canada can be a bit of a hassle, and it doesn't come cheap either. The further north you go, the more you pay.

Thanks for the report palmjet, I enjoyed it. Looking forward to more.


User currently offlineazstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12332 times:

Wonderful, informative, interesting report. I loved it. I also love those native names. I was in YUL once listening to Air Creebec flight announcements "Chi-BOUG-a-moo", "Was-KAG-a-nish"... thinking about how exotic those places must be. Now I know, thanks to you!

[Edited 2012-12-16 07:01:33]

User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12216 times:

What a great report! It indeed sounds like you had a great day of flying - these milks runs sure are a treat!
Thanks for sharing and taking the time!


User currently offlinevsmike From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 318 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12193 times:

WTF? I haven't seen so many conjunctive vowels in singluar city names... since... since... Aamsteerdaam! Honestly, I wasn't sure if you were speaking Dutch or some Franco-Inuit dialect.

Very interesting TR to places, frankly, I'm not sure really exist. For that much C$, I'd be expecting First Class seats, lounges, and some Avios?! Really!? Wow!

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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 12087 times:

Hey palmjet, nice to see more of your Canadian adventures. It looks like you treated yourself to another excellent regional fly-athon.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
My first impressions of Air Inuit were disappointing - I never heard back from them, so that was my cue to give them the flick.

That's too bad. It would have been awesome to fly an airline with such a cool name and with such an interesting network. There is an airport in the Hudson bay (Sanikiluaq - YSK) Air Inuit flies to that I have been eyeing for a long time.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
No it’s not a typo - the airline is not called “Air Quebec”. Little seems to have been written about this Val d’Or based airline on this forum and I haven’t read any other Air Creebec trip reports in the past. From the airline’s website:

My first impression was that they combined the words Creepy and Quebec.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Like Paris, Montreal has its own city “plage” on the banks of the river during the summer months.

I read somewhere that this beach was ranked among the 10 best "urban beaches" in the world.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Slowly the light is fading and the lights of Montreal start appearing

These are some excellent photos my friend!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Seems like our flight attendant would rather be somewhere else – first impressions are pretty average. She doesn't look overly impressed as other passengers gradually trundle aboard and perhaps the early start does not agree with her?

Could it be that these FAs were related to the crew of my TK flights last month? If you happened to read my TRs you would find a ton of similarities in their attitude.  .

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Sadly there are no welcome messages from the cockpit crew, and in fact, no messages or flight information for the entire flight which I find very disappointing. As WideBodyRoga says – it’s a small thing and it costs nothing.

Some of my quotes are indeed so incredibly deep.    .

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
How many people get to land on a gravel runway on a scheduled airline route these days?

Now this is awesome! I've always wanted to do that!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Another view of the terminal building while walking back to our aircraft in the rain

I love those cutesy small buildings housing all these regional Canadian airports... They've done a good job making them look welcoming (in the grand scheme of things).

Thanks again for the nice read palmjet. You had so much fun in Canada. The only thing missing was the Twotter. [off-topic]I'm a click away from booking my first Twotter flight as we speak yet I'm not sure I will go ahead with it (long story)[/off-topic]. Looking forward to read what comes next in these series!   .

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User currently offlineont2cgi From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12030 times:

Thanks. I had always wondered about thier name and you cleared it up.

User currently offlineallrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2237 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11997 times:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
I still saw that “you’re nuts” look in her eyes as I climb down the front airstairs.

I, for one, am glad that you're nuts! Wonderful to see all these tiny places that most never visit but undoubtedly have interesting stories to tell. How many times did you feel like getting off the plane and exploring?

Though I suspect it's not a bad time of year for that sort of thing, how much risk was there of you being stuck in one of those tiny airports due to weather conditions?



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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11993 times:

Cool report! I'd like to see more Air Inuit, Air Creebec and even FirstAir trip reports! Unfortunately the prices are VERY high for these flights as they cater to a very specific market. The main demographic that flies to Northern Quebec are medical personnel (doctors/nurse) who work on the remote Aboriginal indian reservations, natural resource personnel (gas, oil, hydro), and of course aboriginal Canadians (coming to Montreal for medical treatment on the government's $$$).

[Edited 2012-12-16 15:20:17]


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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11738 times:

Hello Pamjet

Another intersting part on your Canada trip! It was a very interesting read.
Seeing the pics of Montreal brought me back quite a bit of memories to my February trip. However, it does look more inviting in the fall.
Great to see the milk run with Air Creebec as well, nice scenery and interesting routing. Too bad to hear about the distant F/A.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I also see an Air Canada Express Dash 8 – 400 at the very same gate from where Marc flew out of earlier this year. This one’s for you!

Thanks, most probably this Dash is heading to YTZ as well


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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

Hello palmjet,

Very impressed once again. You certainly go out of your way for these Dash milk runs. Quite a difference though with the the by now famous Wideroe milk run in Finnmark. Lovely scenery here as well, less rugged but equally stunning. Great as well to have experienced some gravel landings! Your opening pic reminded me of the IB livery in an instant   A good thing indeed they serve those rather generously sized meals but a real pity that the quality left some to be desired. You can't have it all I guess?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
but in the end settled for looking at booking Flight 928 on the way back as the route via Val d’Or had fewer stops and I wanted to maximise my Dash 8 time.

Ha ha ha, really crazy! The more the merrier let's say.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The cabin of “GAIS” looks clean and fresh

And oh so white? But that was perhaps the light. More beige it was probably.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The view from my window while boarding is in progress.

I guess it felt a little like a homecoming, no?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
She explains to me that it is a very short stop; that I am invited to stretch my legs and use the facilities and she will call us all in about 10 minutes or so for reboarding. Merci!

The whole experience is so relaxed, just great.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I find the sound quite comforting – sad person that I am.

You're certainly not sad, only just a little 'Dash-crazy' 

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Double Dash reflection!

Great shot!

Sultanils



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1403 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11470 times:

Hi there PJ - great read covering some very uncommon routes and an airline I'd never heard of. Great pics as usual too.

Looking forward to reading about the rest of you're Canadian trip!



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Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11325 times:
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Glad to see you got on Creebec! I flew on them a couple times myself... but HS748 and EMB110...  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
In the meantime, a RR Dart powered aircraft arrives and parks near us – but head on so I don’t get a good view of who owns it. I am able to see enough of it to rule it out of being a HS748 – it looks more like an Executive Grumman Gulfstream aircraft? I later do some research and wonder whether it could have been the sole aircraft operated by Propair – a charter and medivac operation based in Quebec. A nice little surprise – especially as the whine of the Darts is like music to my ears, and takes me back to my first flight ever on a F27 back in 1986.

That is a Gulstream IB (G-159)I would say, probably C-FAWE from Propair as you suspected. It often shows up in the "Nouveau Quebec" areas.

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User currently offlineghYHZ From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 22 hours ago) and read 11174 times:

Hi Palmjet……and I was feeling so sorry for you when you missed that Twotter run up the Labrador Coast!……but not so much now!   What a fascinating adventure on Air Creebec. After seeing their aircraft at YUL numerous times over the years, that is one trip I’ve always wanted to take.

I’ve really enjoyed the reports so far and your photography is excellent!

Gary


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19258 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days ago) and read 10702 times:

Brilliant and thoroughly enjoyable. Well done.  


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User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10587 times:

Hello palmjet

Superb report, enjoyed every moment of it! I simply love your multistop stories!

Best regards, LXM83


User currently offlineLCYFlyer From Germany, joined Oct 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10553 times:

Hey palmjet!
Thanks for posting that multi-leg trip report. Very interesting read. It's really a shame the flights with Air Creebec or Air Inuit only show horrendous prices in their system.

Looking forward to your next report.
Pierre



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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3360 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10391 times:

Another nice Canadian report James! Shame the catering wasn't as good as it looked.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The airport is relatively unique by Canadian standards because its three letter IATA Code does not start with “Y”!

I hate that they pretty much all start with a Y...so boring (and confusing)

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I tell the flight attendant that I am coming back on the flight to Montreal today and she looks at me like I’ve completely lost the plot, and her only response was, “For real??” Perhaps I’d started to develop a bit of a rapport with her by now, or probably what is more likely is that she feels sorry for me and thinks I’m nuts

I'm sorry to have to tell you, but I think you're quite nuts too! You go all that way, to somewhere barely anyone goes, but don't stay the night? Crazy!  



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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3070 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10326 times:
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Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The airport is relatively unique by Canadian standards because its three letter IATA Code does not start with “Y”!

I hate that they pretty much all start with a Y...so boring (and confusing)

There are actually more than a few that start with Z, they just are out of the way airports like Eastmain... or Bathurst NB (ZBF)



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25 palmjet : Hi all - firstly, thanks so much for the time you’ve taken to post your comments. Great to receive these. Hi WBR Let’s just say it was an early Ch
26 palmjet : Sorry, I missed a few comments - thanks also for these everyone. Hi JAGflyer Thanks for your comments. Your description of the demographic seems accur
27 NorthStarDC4M : Unpleasant would be the word I'd have to pick. Cramped and noisy and there was a freezing cold draft at my feet the whole flight. Oh they were... muc
28 dc9northwest : Hi again palmjet, and thanks for your reply! I'd definitely pay 1500$ for some flights... But when you can get to Australia with that kind of money, I
29 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi palmjet, great report with many awesome pictures, well done! Good to see you continued to try smaller Canadian carriers. I wouldn't mind to take so
30 FLIEGER67 : Hey, J., great story and pictures. Simply perfect close to the end of the year and with some more ideas for the next in mind. Classic canadian landsca
31 Post contains images palmjet : Hi NorthStarDC4M Thanks for responding - I've been looking for a Bandit flight to take - interesting to hear about your experiences. I don't doubt it
32 PlaneHunter : But I still need to fly on the -100 series...I find them quite cute. Sure, a row of 777s or 787s would be nice - but not necessarily EK 777s, they ha
33 palmjet : Thanks PH They are indeed very cute! Wideroe seem to be flying theirs for some time to come so at least in Europe there are chances to catch them. For
34 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi Palmjet! What a fantastic continuation to your Canada series! A very informative report with many nice pictures. A perfect read, I really enjoyed i
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