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SFO-JFK On AA, 762, And LGA-MDW On WN, 738  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15268 times:

I'd never flown in the month of October. Ever. That seemed pretty odd to me, and was a pretty good reason to fly out somewhere during that time. The question was, “where to?”.

Well, it's about the destination but also about the aircraft type. After all, I'm pretty crazy! So, after a bit of searching, I reached my conclusion. I'd go to San Francisco. This offered me the perfect chance to fly Virgin America, supposedly the best airline in the US, service-wise and image-wise. Also, I got another perfect chance: to fly the 762 before they're retired. American to JFK was the second segment I chose. That was easy. What to fly from New York back to Chicago? A tough choice... There was Southwest's new 738... Delta, since they're my frequent-flyer airline as a FB member... JetBlue since they're a good airline in my view. The 738 with Sky Interior offered by WN won out; the competitive fare also helped. Then again, NYC-CHI flights have prices that are massively reduced, given the massive competition on the route.

Full itinerary:
05OCT, VX201, ORD-SFO, A320 (Part 1)
06OCT, AA18, SFO-JFK, B762 (Part 2)
07OCT, WN2272, LGA-MDW, B738 (Part 2)

OK, so I'd left off taking the BART to the Airport. Well, soon we got to the Airport Station and took the AirTrain to T2. I even saw an A346 at the airport on our way to T2. We arrived and went to the AA check-in desks to get our boarding passes to JFK. I gotta say, AA boarding passes actually look rather nice. Anyway, afterwards I took a couple of pictures of the departures landside area.

While waiting around, I saw (or should I say, heard, then saw) a puppy waiting to be loaded on an aircraft. Poor thing was barking very loudly and the agent couldn't do much to calm it down. It seemed to be in distress...

View from AA check-in area:


T2 view (lighting was quite bad, sorry):


Afterwards, we joined the nearly inexistent security line. I presented my boarding pass to the TSA agent. “What's your name?” “Alex H.” “OK, thank you”.

That was weird. I mean, seriously, what do you think they're gonna catch doing that? Someone who can't spell? I don't get it. Anyway, even though the queue was short, it wasn't that fast to be honest. We waited for a little bit, but then we were scanned and admitted to the airside part of T2... Which looks modern yet a bit uninspiring. Well, at least it's not a bad and confusing place.

Airside:


M decided to get a frozen yogurt... While I don't remember getting anything, and just took pictures. Hey, they even had a bottle-refilling station. I like that. Everyone should have that... and it even tasted good for water. Not bad! The terminal looks a bit too much like a mall. That's the modern way, it seems, but I can't give it a definite thumbs up. That said, it's much much better than many airports in the US, so it gets a “relative thumbs-up”.

Food court... More like a mall than an airport:


Bottle refilling station—Nice:


Airside... quite empty, but with a lot of eateries:


There weren't very many passengers here at this hour. It seemed like a sleepy airport in a medium-size town, not part of a massive terminal complex in a bustling metropolis. Take that with good and bad, as did I. Well, soon we went to gate 58 and got ready to board the flight—which, in fact, was already in progress.

Ah, good, we'd board soon, right? WRONG.

So, with first-class boarded, we soon heard the agent suspending the boarding process. Soon, we got an explanation. Some sort of circuit breaker wasn't working. They're working on fixing it, but we'd have to wait a little bit longer... First class passengers were already on board. Buuut... they didn't stay onboard for long. They were de-boarded. Some took their belongings, some didn't.

Which ones were right? The first group.

A few minutes later, the problem seemed more serious than it had seemed at any point before. The passengers who'd left their bags on board were escorted to the aircraft to retrieve them. Uh-oh.

The agents announced a 1-hr delay.

The flight also disappeared from FlightAware. Bigger uh-oh. It seemed we wouldn't be flying this 762 tonight.

Two bags were left on board anyway. The agents retrieved them. Sometime later, a 2-hr delay was announced.

The agent, to his credit, kept us informed.

The solution was to have a part from a different plane replace our broken circuit-breaker. But they “had to get the OK from Tulsa”, as that meant that other plane would be out of service next morning. Anyway, it seemed that worked. After a while when the aircraft lights were turned off, they turned back on. Oh, a good sign... Finally.

A bit later, about 1.5 hr after STD, the agent announced boarding... to everyone's joy. We boarded and headed to our seats in row 33, passing by the 2-1-2 first class and 2-2-2 business class.

Well, I'd gotten a bit tired with all the waiting, I have to say. So, I was looking forward to a nice long sleep in the airplane.

Flight: AA18
AAircraft: Boeing 767-200
Standard Times: 2230-0700
Takeoff/Landing: 0041-0812
Registration: N319AA (1985 vintage)
Seats: 33H and 33J



Well, before I'd try to go off to dreamland I took a few pictures of the cabin and things nearby...

Very old-fashioned seat back:


Wing view:


Window (and pattern, sort of):


Seats before they got filled:


Safety card at 33J:


At roughly 2h delay, we departed our parking position towards the runway. Unfortunately, not being familiar with SFO and not catching the red runway indicators, I'm not sure what runway we took off from at SFO. Well, sooner or later, I proceeded to fall asleep. On and off, I slept until we were on descent to JFK... Thus, I can't really comment on the service aboard AA18 that night. Though, I'm sure, I didn't miss much. It was an airline that isn't exactly known for its service options.

Well, a new day had dawned... Not sure if a nice day... And we'll find that out later. I was still a bit groggy from the short sleep I had.

On descent:


Though, there were some very nice views out the window.

Brooklyn, Lower Manhattan, Midtown:


Again:


JFK:


JFK and Manhattan in the distance:


What a sight—the “capital of the world”:


We landed at JFK about 1h 12' later than scheduled, which is not too bad considering, at some point, we didn't expect to take-off that evening! Well, we got to T8 at JFK, and this leaves just two terminals which I didn't see at JFK: T1 and T7 (and SU operates from T1, and I've booked an award ticket on that flight for next summer).

Bad cabin view:


T8 at JFK (got T1 and T7 to go... and T1 is on track):


Inside view at T8, take 1:


Take 2:


Afterwards, we headed towards the exit to take an airporter van to Midtown (decided not to waste any time with subways...), for 16$ each. Well, we didn't see it at first (I expected a sign, rather than an agent), but soon we had paid and we were ready to board. Afterwards, we passed by T1, T2-3 and T4, before proceeding to Grand Central Terminal in Manhattan. I could get close to a couple of planes, and underneath T3 (in a very strange pattern IMO). The quintessential JFK experience, some would say. It's almost as dark underneath T3 as it is inside T3! After a while, we reached the tunnel and entered Midtown. Just a few minutes later we were by Grand Central. We got some breakfast at one of the eateries there and proceeded towards 5th Ave. and then towards Central Park. 5th Ave. was getting ready to be closed for some parade, but more on that later! Some sights on 5th are below...

Church on 5th Avenue:


5th Avenue:


Again:


At 5th and 59th:


View from Central Park:


NY Skyline gets renewed:


In Central Park:


Large lawn at Central Park:


We entered Central Park, and a few minutes later... It started raining. Greaaat. Well, we still were in the park for about an hour or so, going up to a fountain M wanted to revisit. Afterwards, we proceeded towards Columbus Circle. And we continued down Broadway, via Times Square, to the Flatiron Building at 5th and 23rd IIRC. We passed through a couple of different districts, each with a distinct atmosphere (I could do without the Times Square atmosphere myself). For some reason I like the area around the Flatiron Building, but from the mid 20s to the mid 30s, it's not so nice (particularly on Broadway, I mean). Your results may vary on other Avenues.

Down to Flatiron Building:


We decided to go up 5th Avenue, up to about 34th Street or so, where 5th was closed for the afore-mentioned parade. Well, what was it, I started wondering, until we reached another Avenue (I forget which one unfortunately—was it Lexington? Nope, Madison... just checked). It's confusing when they don't use numbering. I thought Americans were unimaginative at first, but now I appreciate this way of numbering streets and avenues found throughout America. This reminds me of where I first stayed in NY back when I was 8, around 3rd and 39th. The other places I've stayed were around 10th and 44th in 2008 and around Central Park West/8th and 103rd. Each one felt very different—almost like a different city. And that's what I find true about NY in general.


Some of you might know this building:


But I prefer this one:


Ah, the parade... Apparently it was a huge deal. It was celebrating Polish (National?) Day. There was a huge turnout, all wearing the patriotic White and Red in some combination. Don't think Romanians would ever all dress in Yellow, Red and Blue. Maybe if the National Team wins the World Cup in football (aka soccer). For the National Day? Swearing against the President, at best. Which won't happen, since we haven't qualified since '98. Anyway, the whole of 5th Avenue from mid 30s to about 50th (or so) was closed to traffic. Pretty big deal, it seems.

Soon we reached Grand Central again, walked around a bit more, and took the $13 airporter to LGA. We arrived at the Southwest terminal and descended... It was still early, so we printed our boarding passes at Southwest's machines, and proceeded to the food court downstairs. Luckily this provided good views to the apron... we had Frontier and AA Eagle to keep us entertained. I didn't get anything since my stomach wasn't feeling awesomely and food court food is not that healthy.

Anyway, looking to my left I saw someone jotting down something in a notebook... and using binoculars. A spotter!

M was asking me how I identify different subtypes (as Widebodyroga would say), and I quizzed her about what we could see on the apron. Good enough performance on that test.

Frontier A320 (I didn't know they had any, honestly):


Embraer 135(?) (want me to count the windows, do you?):


Soon, we proceeded through security. For some reason, I got through much faster than M. They asked for my name again... Whatever for? Anyway, we entered the small, cramped, horrible, horrible, horrible terminal. I'd used it before when I flew Midwest... wasn't much better then, but it seemed less crowded. And, with Southwest, you can't arrive at the gate “whenever you want”. You have to be there, since there's no assigned seating. You have to sit there in that queue so as to not lose your spot. Even if there's a delay of an hour... Well, there was an one-hour delay. Fine, we didn't sit in that queue for an hour, but it was a pretty long half-hour. Before that we'd gotten a couple of pretzels from Auntie Anne's (or as I call it, NTN's—the pronunciation is no different :P)

Flight: WN2272
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Standard Times: 1820-1950
Takeoff/Landing: 1924-2019
Registration: N8603F
Seats: 09A and 09B (free seating)

Well, as you can see from the above times, we had a bit of a delay upon landing. WN hadn't finished boarding the previous flight from that gate, so we had to wait. We took our place in the queue, A44/A45 due to early bird check-in instead of the B30 I usually get if not getting the early-bird check-in. After everybody got settled, it was still a while before we boarded. Anyway, later than I hoped, we finally began to board the new B737-800 (with Sky Interior, no less!). It was an exciting time for me. Well, as much as can be... Anyway, we got onboard and found some good seats in 9A/B. The F/A was standing in that row and asked me why I chose this side and not the other. Well, I thought I had a better chance of seeing Manhattan from this side, was the answer. But the clouds rendered this useless... The rain had intensified (as you can see looking at the below picture—there was a storm cell in the area!).



Southwest B738 seat:


Sky Interior Window:


Cabin View:


Outside:


Spirit Magazine... Hmm, isn't that their competition?:


Mood lighting:


NY Skyline:


By the time we departed from the gate I felt quite tired. Still, while on the taxiway, I took the above picture of the NY Skyline in the darkness and in rain... Oh well, what can I say. The Southwest F/A was “playing” with the new fancy-schmancy lighting system in the “brand-new airplane”, as she said. Well, we took off, and... that's about it. I don't remember much else until about when the landing lights were turned on. Hmmm... Yeah, that was it, really, for this flight. I'd flown Southwest a couple of weeks earlier, and, in that case, they brought drinks on a tray rather than on a cart (after ordering). I believe it was the same on this flight (standard procedure), but can't be absolutely certain. A few weeks back, I'd also been served a snack bag. I believe that was the standard WN service.

On landing:


Soon, we were back in Chicago. From MDW, we took the 55 bus, straight back to M's place. While on the bus, somewhere halfway through the journey, a black woman probably in her 30s, wearing an AA uniform, and thus probably working at O'Hare, got on the bus and started talking to the driver. Apparently (either that night or a previous night) a bus didn't stop, not seeing her at one of the stations. After the bus passed, she was robbed of her bag. I was thinking... “wow, I knew Chicago was dangerous, but hadn't heard of a first-hand story about this”. I don't remember details, and whether it was at gunpoint, as expected in the US, but it still sounds pretty bad. She got off at Garfield-Red Line, and probably went north all the way to ORD. We continued further... And that's it for today, folks.

Conclusions:

San Francisco: A really nice city, with good weather. I enjoyed the day and a half I spent there. A lot to do, and I haven't done everything... so i'll probably be back eventually.
New York: Pretty much like I remembered it... and terrible weather this one (like the first time I was there... but still, different; back then it was -15C/5F). See you again in late June...

Virgin America: Best US airline I've sampled. Would I fly them again? Yes, definitely. They have no competition in the US, provided you wanna get to their very few destinations.
American Airlines: They had problems back then. Serious problems. They did OK, and their agent kept us informed about the delay—which I really appreciate. The experience could've been much worse if he said nothing. That said, it seems that these delays are/were very common at AA. Maybe just during that period...
Southwest Airlines: If it wasn't for this unassigned seating thing, I'd fly them more often. Their service is generally good, stable, if uninspiring. Not my favorite airline but one I'd fly again for sure.



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26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5520 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15115 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Southwest Airlines: If it wasn't for this unassigned seating thing, I'd fly them more often. Their service is generally good, stable, if uninspiring. Not my favorite airline but one I'd fly again for sure.

Their unassigned seating is why I love WN. I feel like I'm always guaranteed a great seat as long as I check in online around 24 hrs before the flight. But maybe it's just because I always get so unlucky with the assigned seating on other carriers. Usually 95% of the seats are already occupied even though I buy the ticket 6 months in advance and/or 95% of whatever seats are available cost extra.

Cool report. I agree with your sentiments regarding AA.


User currently onlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 896 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14881 times:

Hi Alex,

Great report on AA and WN! I also read the first part but forgot to leave a reply. AA seems to have some problems, although my 2 flights with AA Eagle back in 2011 (ORD-OKC/TUL-ORD) were quite good actually. WN has always delivered good service when I fly with them and that also seems to be the case with your flight.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
T8 at JFK (got T1 and T7 to go... and T1 is on track):

I've actually nearly only flown from T5 as FI is based there! Also got quite a number of flights from T5 though, and a single T4 flight in 2005.

regards,
Sveinn  



Flights flown: 287 - Airlines: 41 - Airports: 66 - Next flights: KEF-LHR-KEF, RKV-AEY-RKV, KEF-EWR-MCO, SRQ-LGA, JFK-KEF
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2900 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14788 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 2):
I've actually nearly only flown from T5 as FI is based there!

FI is at T7, not T5. T5 was TW before TW was absorbed into AA and T5 was shut down. The original Saarinen buiding still exists, but the gate areas at the end of the tubes were removed to make way for B6's $800m 25-gate terminal that opened in 2008.  

T5:




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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14091 times:

Quoting Continental (Reply 1):
Their unassigned seating is why I love WN. I feel like I'm always guaranteed a great seat as long as I check in online around 24 hrs before the flight. But maybe it's just because I always get so unlucky with the assigned seating on other carriers. Usually 95% of the seats are already occupied even though I buy the ticket 6 months in advance and/or 95% of whatever seats are available cost extra.

Cool report. I agree with your sentiments regarding AA.

Hi there! Well, of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion--I've never had trouble finding a good seat on airlines that offer an assigned seating. OK, sometimes you might have to pay for it, and not everyone likes that.

I usually like to check-in 24h ahead of time... but both times I used WN w/o early-bird I didn't manage to check-in at the 24-hr mark.

As I said, I'd fly them again, they're just not my first choice.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 2):
Hi Alex,

Great report on AA and WN! I also read the first part but forgot to leave a reply. AA seems to have some problems, although my 2 flights with AA Eagle back in 2011 (ORD-OKC/TUL-ORD) were quite good actually. WN has always delivered good service when I fly with them and that also seems to be the case with your flight.

Hey Sveinn, thanks for your comments.

I had 1 flight with Eagle before--entirely forgettable aside from being my first ERJ experience. Not bad, however. I give AA credit for keeping us informed. Nowadays, that's so very rare... WN is ok, definitely above-average.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 2):
I've actually nearly only flown from T5 as FI is based there! Also got quite a number of flights from T5 though, and a single T4 flight in 2005.

I assume the T5 for Icelandair was a typo, as discussed by B6JFKH81  

Thanks again, Sveinn. Shame I'm not flying FI to JFK then, haha.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 3):
FI is at T7, not T5. T5 was TW before TW was absorbed into AA and T5 was shut down. The original Saarinen buiding still exists, but the gate areas at the end of the tubes were removed to make way for B6's $800m 25-gate terminal that opened in 2008.

Yeah, I think that was just a typo there. Anyway, T5 is a good terminal. In fact, JFK is definitely moving in the right direction. I think once DL tears down T2 and especially T3 they'll all be at least decent. Big difference from ~10 years ago AFAIK.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13310 times:

Hi Alex !

Thanks for the conclusion of your trip to SFO!

Nice pictures and interesting flights.

AA's 762s are quite old and therefore more likely to have mechanical problems. Good that you got some sleep on that flight.

WN looks okay but the boarding process sounds confusing. I have only flown them twice and and that was a day a apart in 1994 LAX-LAS-LAX.

Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12869 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):

Hi Alex !

Thanks for the conclusion of your trip to SFO!

Hi L.!

Thanks for reading it!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
AA's 762s are quite old and therefore more likely to have mechanical problems. Good that you got some sleep on that flight.

Indeed, this particular airplane was 27... almost 27... years old when we flew it. It's understandable to have some issues. It wasn't that bad, really.

Yes, I really needed that sleep...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
WN looks okay but the boarding process sounds confusing. I have only flown them twice and and that was a day a apart in 1994 LAX-LAS-LAX.

Yeah; they're not too bad. I think they made the boarding process less confusing, and more orderly, in the past few years. Then again... the first time I flew them was late 2009.

By the way, will you be around at LAX on 6/7 January? I will be passing through (with M)...


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12762 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 6):
will you be around at LAX on 6/7 January? I will be passing through (with M)...

Yes, and I'm off the 7th of January so we can meet up if you like.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently onlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 896 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12464 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 4):

Haha yeah, definitely a typo. Have flown KEF-JFK or vv over 20 times so of course I know where they're based. First thing I remember from there was when I was 5 year old and saw all those BA heavies over there...sat glued tot the window.   Born for airplanes!  

Regards,
Sveinn



Flights flown: 287 - Airlines: 41 - Airports: 66 - Next flights: KEF-LHR-KEF, RKV-AEY-RKV, KEF-EWR-MCO, SRQ-LGA, JFK-KEF
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1771 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12380 times:
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Hi Alex,

Another good read you made there. Too bad there's not more coverage from the AA 762 but I understand you being tired and wanted to make the most out of this redeye - sleepwise that is! How long was that flight?
Southwest's B738 looked quite new but no IFE on board?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
taking the BART

How stupid can a name for a mode of public transport be 

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
It seemed to be in distress..

Would you look forward to a flight in the cargo hold, in the cold and stuck between masses of suitcases?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
(lighting was quite bad, sorry)

Lucky it wasn't purple  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
What a sight—the “capital of the world

Say that again, great shots!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
want me to count the windows, do you?

   I do.

Sultanils



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12294 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
Yes, and I'm off the 7th of January so we can meet up if you like.

Cool. We'll be staying at a hotel in the LAX area. My flight on the 7th is at noon or so. Therefore, if you're up for a mid-morning meet somewhere around the airport, please let me know, however is convenient for you.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 8):
Haha yeah, definitely a typo. Have flown KEF-JFK or vv over 20 times so of course I know where they're based. First thing I remember from there was when I was 5 year old and saw all those BA heavies over there...sat glued tot the window.   Born for airplanes!  

Hah, yes, I think most of us here were born for airplanes  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Hi Alex,

Another good read you made there. Too bad there's not more coverage from the AA 762 but I understand you being tired and wanted to make the most out of this redeye - sleepwise that is! How long was that flight?

Hey Nils, thanks for your comments!

Yes, I was pretty tired. By the time we got on, it was 2 am Chicago time! The flight was 4h 31' long according to FlightAware. So I slept around 4 hours or so...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Southwest's B738 looked quite new but no IFE on board?

Yes, a few months old, and no, no IFE... Southwest didn't want or need to pay for that, I guess.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
How stupid can a name for a mode of public transport be 

Could be worse... T -> F  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Would you look forward to a flight in the cargo hold, in the cold and stuck between masses of suitcases?

Not really! I thought the pet-section was heated though. And separate from suitcases... Maybe I'm wrong. Still sucks, nevertheless.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Lucky it wasn't purple  

Lucky it was still on--silly circuit breaker!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Say that again, great shots!

Thanks again, Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
   I do.

Hah, I did back then. I'm pretty sure it's an ERJ-135  


User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 760 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11902 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
While waiting around, I saw (or should I say, heard, then saw) a puppy waiting to be loaded on an aircraft. Poor thing was barking very loudly and the agent couldn't do much to calm it down. It seemed to be in distress...

It's not as bad as it sounds. From one who flew from DFW-LAX-NRT with 2 cats it is doable. It's not something I would want to do every day, but once my cats got settled into our place in Soka, it was like we just moved across town. I will include the link to my trip report
DFW-LAX-NRT With 2 Cats (by Triple7man Jun 3 2005 in Trip Reports)

And I'm getting ready to fly a transcon on Monday...JFK/SFO



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2426 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11893 times:

Nice TR, and I am glad to see you enjoyed your trip on WN. Out of curiosity what date did you travel on SWA? Glad to see you enjoyed the new -800 too.. You got to fly on it before I did, and I work for WN!  


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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11863 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

another nice report featuring two interesting aircraft! Good to see you got on one of these ageing 767-200ERs. And nice to see a report of WN's new 738. The Sky Interior is great indeed. Airbus cabins look outdated compared to Boeing's in these days.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Anyway, it seemed that worked. After a while when the aircraft lights were turned off, they turned back on. Oh, a good sign... Finally.

Ah, relief!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
What a sight—the “capital of the world”:

Fantastic picture!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

Frontier A320 (I didn't know they had any, honestly):

No less than 16 frames.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

Spirit Magazine... Hmm, isn't that their competition?:

That Spirit Magazine probably already existed before Spirit Airlines started operating.


PH



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11577 times:

Quoting triple7man (Reply 11):
It's not as bad as it sounds. From one who flew from DFW-LAX-NRT with 2 cats it is doable. It's not something I would want to do every day, but once my cats got settled into our place in Soka, it was like we just moved across town. I will include the link to my trip report
DFW-LAX-NRT With 2 Cats (by Triple7man Jun 3 2005 in Trip Reports)

And I'm getting ready to fly a transcon on Monday...JFK/SFO

Hi triple7man!

My mom undertook two transatlantic journeys with cats (in the cabin, not in the hold), and my grandma one (and... well, there's a story... the cat got free for a few minutes). Thanks for the link; I remember reading the report some time ago  

Happy travels!

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 12):

Nice TR, and I am glad to see you enjoyed your trip on WN. Out of curiosity what date did you travel on SWA? Glad to see you enjoyed the new -800 too.. You got to fly on it before I did, and I work for WN!

Thanks SXDFC! Yeah, I really wanted to try it out!

I flew the 738 on October 7th (and a 73G flight on September 29th). Nice aircraft; really cool, the Sky Interior  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):

Hi dc9northwest,

another nice report featuring two interesting aircraft! Good to see you got on one of these ageing 767-200ERs. And nice to see a report of WN's new 738. The Sky Interior is great indeed. Airbus cabins look outdated compared to Boeing's in these days.

Hi PlaneHunter!

Thank you very much!

I agree-Boeing's interiors look much better (aka, more modern) than Airbus' these days.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
Fantastic picture!

Thanks again!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
No less than 16 frames.

Am I mistaken, or did they use to only have A319s and A318s? I have to say, I never flew Frontier.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
That Spirit Magazine probably already existed before Spirit Airlines started operating.

Hmm, that's a good point. Hadn't thought of it that way. It seems that Spirit Airlines got that name in 1992. It'd make sense. Any idea when Spirit magazine got launched?

Anyway, thanks for your comments, guys! It's much appreciated  


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10846 times:

Hi Alex

Interesting report, thanks for sharing! I flew the AA 762 in 2011 as well, nice bird.
A Trip On A Classic Silverjet And Some Trains! (by MSS658 Jan 4 2012 in Trip Reports)

Nice to see the new sky interior as well on the LGA-MDW leg


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10527 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Hi Alex

Interesting report, thanks for sharing! I flew the AA 762 in 2011 as well, nice bird.
A Trip On A Classic Silverjet And Some Trains! (by MSS658 Jan 4 2012 in Trip Reports)

Nice to see the new sky interior as well on the LGA-MDW leg


Greetings
Marc

Hi Marc,

Thanks for your reply!

Good to see you got a 762 for the log as well. MIA-JFK was another option but Miami wasn't as interesting as SFO.

Yup, the Sky Interior was really nice.

Thanks again!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10498 times:

Hey, A.,

great second part of you´re story.
That AA 762 sounds really interesting to me.
I hope to catch one of these birds also.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 17):

Hey, A.,

great second part of you´re story.
That AA 762 sounds really interesting to me.
I hope to catch one of these birds also.

Markus, thanks for your reply!

Yes, the 762 is really cool, but hurry--it's going away at AA. The A321s will start coming, and while not bad, they're no 762 (my favorite 767). The ex-CO UA birds are much newer.


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9612 times:

Hey Alex! I see your desire to sample some more subtypes took you all the way from one coast to the other. You're one dedicated a.netter...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The terminal looks a bit too much like a mall. That's the modern way, it seems, but I can't give it a definite thumbs up. That said, it's much much better than many airports in the US, so it gets a “relative thumbs-up”.

Yeah, SFO looks pretty cool. When I flew there in June I was in a rush to catch the train down to Palo Alto so I didn't get to enjoy it as much as I would have liked. From what I saw though it seemed like a very pleasant airport, kinda like MSP.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Bottle refilling station—Nice:

If there was one place in the country for such a place to exist that would be San Francisco (thanks to its environmentally-conscious residents). Thumbs up.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, I'd gotten a bit tired with all the waiting,

I just came off a delay-infested roundtrip so I know what you mean. Good thing you didn't have to wait for more than those 2 extra hours.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
What a sight—the “capital of the world”:

When New Yorkers say this I want to slap them in the face. A little bit of humility wouldn't hurt. .

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
M was asking me how I identify different subtypes (as Widebodyroga would say),

Subtypes are overrated  .

Glad to see that you and M had fun this trip, Alex. Too bad for the delays and the bad whether at the Capital of the Universe. I'm sure the weather would be much better when you return in the summer  .

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9442 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):

Hey Alex! I see your desire to sample some more subtypes took you all the way from one coast to the other. You're one dedicated a.netter...

Hehe, yes, well, what can I say? I love to fly and it shows?  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
Yeah, SFO looks pretty cool. When I flew there in June I was in a rush to catch the train down to Palo Alto so I didn't get to enjoy it as much as I would have liked. From what I saw though it seemed like a very pleasant airport, kinda like MSP.

Well, I can't comment on the other terminals, but this VX/AA one looked really nice. However, it might be a while until you realie that, yes, you've gotten to the airport... Other than that, no complaints.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
If there was one place in the country for such a place to exist that would be San Francisco (thanks to its environmentally-conscious residents). Thumbs up.

Yes, it's really useful, particularly when your money has been spent on flights and hotels! Well, it's still nice in any case. I wonder how the shopkeepers are taking it, though.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
I just came off a delay-infested roundtrip so I know what you mean. Good thing you didn't have to wait for more than those 2 extra hours.

Ah, AA treated you the typical AA way, with delays? That's too bad. Hope you at least made the flight to Chicago the day you meant to and didn't have to spend the night... Well, I'm sure we'll find out soon   (SKN sounds interesting... don't remember any reports from there...)

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
When New Yorkers say this I want to slap them in the face. A little bit of humility wouldn't hurt. 

You think it's not true? Well, I don't care, personally... perhaps you prefer "buricul pamantului"! (bellybutton of the Earth). On the other hand, I dislike the name "big apple". Never got that.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 19):
Glad to see that you and M had fun this trip, Alex. Too bad for the delays and the bad whether at the Capital of the Universe. I'm sure the weather would be much better when you return in the summer  .

Thanks very much, Stojan. It was a nice trip overall. Just re-read your recent Japan reports as preparation for tomorrow.

Ah, you've seen what I've coming up in summer? Hope that "tranzit" experience works well.  


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9425 times:

Thanks for sharing. AA seems to be quite a standard thing, but nice you got the 762. Too bad about the delay.
I found WN excellent,as they have free bags and snack/drinks on board. Much better than legacy carriers. Flew them from RDU to EWR via BWI and even transit in BWI was a breeze.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I gotta say, AA boarding passes actually look rather nice.

Interesting, I remember them using these paper-ticket generic blue/greenish things, which were used by travel agencies before introduction of eticketing as well.


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9404 times:

Nice report again!

I love that new terminal in SFO, flew trough when it was open just a few months. Like you said, like a mall, but in a good way. Shame about the delay though, but what a great views upon arrival in JFK!


User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 760 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9048 times:
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I just finished transiting both JFK and SFO (along with BKK, HND and DFW). The new Terminal 2 is nice. It used to be the international terminal at SFO.
I found the gate agents at SFO very nice and helpful, especially trying to fly as a standby.
The transcon JFK-SFO was very nice, but I spent most of it sleeping, after flying BKK-HND-JFK. And no cats this time!



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8297 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 21):
Thanks for sharing. AA seems to be quite a standard thing, but nice you got the 762. Too bad about the delay.
I found WN excellent,as they have free bags and snack/drinks on board. Much better than legacy carriers. Flew them from RDU to EWR via BWI and even transit in BWI was a breeze.

Hi reifel, yes, AA isn't anything special, but I'd never flown them and never flew the 762. So why not?

WN... as I mentioned, I don't like the free seating. Everything else is very nice for US standards.

Quoting reifel (Reply 21):
Interesting, I remember them using these paper-ticket generic blue/greenish things, which were used by travel agencies before introduction of eticketing as well.

Hmm... I know what you're talking about. But the design of these AA boarding passes I found above average.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 22):
Nice report again!

I love that new terminal in SFO, flew trough when it was open just a few months. Like you said, like a mall, but in a good way. Shame about the delay though, but what a great views upon arrival in JFK!

Hi Robert,

Well, there are not many good things about malls--I hate those things  

Yes, the views just about made up for the delay.

Quoting triple7man (Reply 23):

I just finished transiting both JFK and SFO (along with BKK, HND and DFW). The new Terminal 2 is nice. It used to be the international terminal at SFO.
I found the gate agents at SFO very nice and helpful, especially trying to fly as a standby.
The transcon JFK-SFO was very nice, but I spent most of it sleeping, after flying BKK-HND-JFK. And no cats this time!

Hi triple7man,

T2 at SFO is nice indeed. Airy and spacious. The agents at SFO definitely seem nice, unlike those at LAX. As a sidenote, I just transited in Tokyo Narita and that was a much, much superior experience.

Thanks for your comments, guys, and sorry about the delay!


25 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi Alex! Great continuation to your series, really enjoyed it once again! Such a shame to see AA having all those big problems back when you took this
26 Post contains images dc9northwest : Hey Brendan, Ah, but I did, Brendan. Still had to spend 45' in queue to not lose my seat. No, no... Don't like it. Otherwise I can do what you do and
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