dc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1735 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4985 times:
Hi, everyone, and welcome to my short report on OS to Vienna, Bratislava, detailing the Do&Co meal available on OS flights.
Well, my mother had spent her summers as a kid in Vienna. Years later, she wanted to visit again; the last visit having been in 2008. Well, I don't refuse travel (often or ever). But, since it wouldn't be a new country or airport or aircraft... I “negociated” a few hours in Bratislava as well.
Austrian had just launched the possibility of ordering 15 EUR meals (even on their short-hauls). That's good; makes the choice rather easy. Even booking the flight a few weeks before the flight, the fares were quite decent. I forgot how much, exactly, but I believe around 175 EUR per person. The competition on the route is quite intense, between RO, OS and HG. The “low-cost” airline HG, however, had the biggest fares. Which is why I laugh at people who buy low-cost tickets without looking at the “legacy” airlines and considering all the extra costs. But I digress.
Anyway, a few weeks later, it was about time to leave for Vienna. We got to the airport, and used the self-service check-in kiosks at OTP (the fewer people you interact with, the better... especially at OTP). No hold luggage for us (for a couple of days trip... of course not), so off to security. Soon enough, we passed this hurdle as well. We headed to gate 12, where the Austrian flight (operated by Tyrolean—aren't they all?) would board in some time. Well, first we stopped by a cafe which offered internet access with purchase. Some pictures of the new OTP below. I can't stress enough how nice it is to have glass walls which permit picture-taking. Luckily OTP is waking up and cruising past CDG and Italian or Spanish airports (though personally I haven't had problems!), for instance, at photography-friendliness. Now if only we'd get rid of the old mentality at TAROM check-in desks as well.
OTP's new terminal:
FIDS:
Gate 10:
Across from Gate 9:
Well, at the gate, we didn't have long to wait. 10 minutes after we sat down, boarding started. This time, we waited until the boarding queue got shorter before lining up.
Boarding went well, and Weinviertel was ready to depart back to homebase. The flight path was typical, overflying Deva, Arad and Szekesfehervar (?) on the way to Vienna. There's not much to say about this flight; please enjoy the pictures below.
OE-LBV:
Arrivals Hall, Control Tower, New Terminal:
Wizz and RO:
Snack service was another half-sandwich, like on my OSL-VIE-OTP flights earlier this year. This is likely the typical OS service—however, the sandwich was better—salami and pickles instead of mystery sauce. Drinks were served later than snacks. Much later. Thumbs down for this procedure.
This is OS's half-snack I've written about before (salami and pickle is better than red and yellow cremes though):
Romanian mountains:
Not sure what city this is:
On descent:
Schwechat and Vienna:
We arrived at VIE basically on-time. We disembarked via airstairs and were taken to the terminal for an ID check. We were through eventually. Land-side, we decided to take the CAT train to Wien-Mitte and walk to our hotel from there; Hotel Domizil is but a couple of blocks from Stephansdom. It cost 230 Euros for 2 nights. Overall, a good experience. Pleasant welcome and good breakfast. Maybe, the best hotel I've stayed at. Usually, I stay at cheaper hotels, but this was the best deal in Central Vienna with just a few weeks left before the trip.
Welcome (thanks!):
Neue Terminal:
Well, hey there, old friend:
Disembarkation:
Quite modern-looking inside:
CAT seats:
Afterwards, we decided to walk around Vienna. Here are some the sights seen on the first day.
Stephansdom:
Vienna Center:
Sights from around the city:
Group of tourists (probably came on one of those big tourist buses )
Nice architecture:
Opera House:
On the second day, we went to Bratislava. There are two hourly trains, one to Hlavna Stanica and one to Petrzalka (the latter is quicker but leaves you in a less interesting area). We chose the latter for the way there, and the former for the way back. Since I don't think there are many reports of Bratislava, I added some pictures I took walking around this city.
Train from Sudbahnhof to Bratislava-Petrzalka:
Petrzalka:
Follow the yellow-brick road... Err, red-brick road?
It's easy to get from Petrzalka station to Bratislava's old town. Just follow the red bricks all the way to the bridge, and then cross the bridge. Once you've crossed the bridge... There you are. We headed east towards the theater before entering the proper old-town, which is seemingly a quite typical Austro-Hungarian town center, and very clean as well. Also, it's not completely chock full of restaurants and tables stretching all across every pedestrian street, leaving a 1-meter space for pedestrians, like in other places (Bucharest). It's quite pleasant for a stroll. After a while, we headed to St. Martin's Cathedral, and, then, up the hill to Bratislava's castle. Well, we ended up surrounding the castle before we found an entrance, but we finally succeeded. The view from up there was quite scenic, as could be seen below. Afterwards, we headed towards the main station via the Old Town, the Hodzovo Namestie (where I think the Presidential Palace(?) is) and the Summer Archbishop's Palace. Finally we arrived at the Hlavna Stanica and soon it was time to board the train to Vienna Sudbahnhof.
Yup, it's still Eastern Europe:
Crossing the Danube:
Nice:
Sights from around Bratislava:
Main pedestrian street:
Theater in the background:
Central streets:
Nice little building:
Typical Bratislava:
The Cathedral from before:
View towards the Old Town:
Bratislava Castle:
“the UFO”:
Castle:
Presidential Residence(?):
You can't be so close to Vienna without learning something!
Hlavna Stanica:
Err.... am I missing something?
After about 70 minutes, we were finally back in Vienna. We stopped by the Belvedere, visited the Palace and its gardens, although it was rainy, and was getting rainier and rainier. Exiting the Belvedere gates, we even saw a guy aiding the rain in wetting the pavement by taking a leisurely piss in the middle of the city. Great. Afterwards, we headed towards the hotel. Regarding food... we stopped at the WienerWald restaurant for some schnitzels. Another choice for me was a Rostbraten mit Zweibeln, IIRC, somewhere near the hotel.
Back in Vienna:
Belvedere:
That night, we went to a Mozart concert at the Musikverein Golden Saal. A nice concert, overall. The next day, it was time to leave. We didn't take much of a detour and headed towards the CAT at Wien/Mitte. We checked-in, and headed downstairs to catch the train. 16 minutes later we were at Schwechat Airport.
In a park:
Unsere Garten:
CAT:
Back to VIE:
It was time to pass through security and immigration-all went fast and without a hitch. I bought a present for my grade school math teacher whom I'd get to see after a few years. Afterwards, we went to the top level, which is reserved for non-Schengen destinations—finally, no more basements! A fair number of spotting opportunities at VIE...
Qatar A321:
LH A340 operating for OS:
New terminal:
Enfidha? Doesn't quite fit...
Little Fokkers:
OS retrojet:
Active:
Well, soon-ish, the F100 we were waiting for arrived. It looked like a more-or-less on-time departure. Well, in the end, we'd have about a 20-minute delay... no big deal. Also, according to FlightAware, this would be the longest VIE-OTP flight for OS791 (1h 25 minutes, compared to 1h 13 minutes average) during that time period.
I must mention the 50 second long safety briefings. I'll just assume they don't care at Tyrolean HQ. Never heard such short safety briefings at any other airline. In fact, it's confusing me.
Hello, F100:
Boarded:
F100 engine:
Taxi out:
For this flight, I'd ordered myself the Chicken Schnitzel from Do&Co's menu, to see just how it is. Well, after takeoff, I waited and waited—nothing. Finally, the F/As arrived to my row—I gave them the confirmation e-mail (I should NOT have to carry this around—in fact, I showed the e-version), and they brought me my pre-bought meal. I think that they should improve the system, and know for whom and for what seat the meal is for. On the positive side, quite a few choices to choose from. Good. This is unlike KL, from which 4 out of 5 feature some sort of seafood (thumbs down to KL for that). I won't pay 15EUR if I can't eat the whole thing. Again, there was a disparity between meal-service and snack/food service at OS. Another negative here... They should review their process... Luckily, the Do&Co set comes with a bottle of water.
And, yes, I do consider myself demanding—but I don't make a scandal out of it unless I'm treated like shit. Impolitely. And all things considered, I find that very rare. The F/A played no role in the Tyrolean/Austrian policy, so I did not complain to her at all. However, OS can do a fair bit to improve the service.
I did order a meal... the Schnitzel; what else?
The meal came with a salad, lots of bread, water and a dessert (chocolate mousse):
The Schnitzel was quite good, even though you may not expect perfection from such a dish at 30,000 feet. I can't complain about anything else from the tray either—the bread seemed quite fresh, and the dessert was acceptable—even if chocolate mousse isn't my favorite.
Afterwards, I visited the bathroom (not related to the above, I promise), since I'd missed the opportunity the last 2 flights I took on a F100 AFAIK.
F100 bathroom:
Soon, we were on descent, taking the typical path over Romania: Petrosani-Ramnicu Valcea-Pitesti-Otopeni.
Above Romania:
Petrosani/Petrila:
Transalpina:
Ranca winter resort:
Green interior of the F100:
Descending:
Ramnicu Valcea:
Pitesti:
Almost there:
Brakes:
RO and Wizz:
Retrojet:
OE-LVL:
We were now ready to land at OTP. We landed on runway 08L, and used the high-speed exit. A few minutes later we arrived at gate 13 (aka parking stand 7). Disembarkation was slow-ish as usual, and we were off to immigration. During the long walk, I pictured the desks that let us know that, no, Romania was not yet in the Schengen Area (pictured below). Immigration was quick as usual, even though my mother forgot where we'd been when asked by the officer. No baggage means we were through, and we took the 783 bus downtown.
They introduced a ticket-checker on these routes to the airport to reduce/eliminate fraudulent journeys. He validated the “e-tickets” (that electronic-card thing, that is) for everybody, to ensure everything was alright. On the order of 40 minutes later, we arrived in the center, and soon after, home.
Empty desks Sultanils was referring to in his “Flying Blue and Nonstop You” report:
gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
Nice report! I'm visiting VIE again in early Feb to check out the new pier and lounge. Looking forward to spending some time back in Bratislava too. The special meal looked ok, but I think i'd rather spend the EUR 15 on a better meal on the ground (or just raid the lounge!).
roberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 657 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4314 times:
Nice report there! Interesting to read about OS new BOB service, looks okay, but a bit on the pricey side on a short flight. Also thanks for sharing the destination pictures of Bratislava!
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5336 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4243 times:
Thanks for the report.
In general, I liked the Fokkers. But when you put up that lavatory pic... is that standard OS practice? Paper towels all on the floor to soak up liquid?
I was planning on booking USA-EUR on OS for next summer, but after your trip report, I'm considering booking elsewhere. Perhaps dull LH would be the way to go, or LX.
dc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1735 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4199 times:
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1): Nice report! I'm visiting VIE again in early Feb to check out the new pier and lounge. Looking forward to spending some time back in Bratislava too. The special meal looked ok, but I think i'd rather spend the EUR 15 on a better meal on the ground (or just raid the lounge!).
Hey Gabriel! Thanks!
Good to know about your plans--Bratislava's quite nice for a day or two. I like the new pier at VIE, maybe it's not perfect but it's a big improvement.
I agree it's a bit much for a short flight, but should be great for long-hauls...
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
Nice report there! Interesting to read about OS new BOB service, looks okay, but a bit on the pricey side on a short flight. Also thanks for sharing the destination pictures of Bratislava!
Hey Robert!
Thanks for reading! Yeah, I agree with your conclusions regarding the BOB.
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3): Thanks for the report.
In general, I liked the Fokkers. But when you put up that lavatory pic... is that standard OS practice? Paper towels all on the floor to soak up liquid?
I was planning on booking USA-EUR on OS for next summer, but after your trip report, I'm considering booking elsewhere. Perhaps dull LH would be the way to go, or LX.
Hi AA737-823!
I can't say much about OS, really. I know they went through a tough time in 2012, however. Maybe it was a passenger who dropped the napkins there; can't be sure about that.
Well, I'd go for LX since I've never tried them. LH is ok, but I'm not a big fan of FRA. Maybe you want to try KL! That'd be better IMO (but I guess you want to use Star Alliance).
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6080 posts, RR: 56 Reply 7, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3116 times:
Hi Alex !
Thanks for a nice report with nice pictures !
Good to see you take your mother on a short flight to Vienna!
Vienna looks nice and so does Bratislava.
Flights seem okay and the Wiernerschnitzel look great but I prefer it with french fries. Bad to get the meal separate from the drink service.
Looking forward to your next report!
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
dc9northwest From Romania, joined Feb 2007, 1735 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2861 times:
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 5):
The meal looks delicious. I love Wienerschnizel.
Fantastic one can order a meal.
Haha, yes, it's good to be order a meal... particularly on long-hauls.
Quoting CARST (Reply 6):
Hey nice report there with great photos from Vienna, too. The Fokker seems to be a funny aircraft, the flap- and spoiler-system looks very special.
Thanks Carst!
Yes, it's a nice and special-looking aircraft indeed
Quoting The777Man (Reply 7): Flights seem okay and the Wiernerschnitzel look great but I prefer it with french fries. Bad to get the meal separate from the drink service.
Yes, I agree--though fries might be a taller order than the potato salad. Harder for them to be reheated I think. Yeah, OS could improve how they deliver the snack/meal and drink.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 7): Good to see you take your mother on a short flight to Vienna!
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): The Schnitzel was quite good, even though you may not expect perfection from such a dish at 30,000 feet.
That meal looks great - but well, a warmed up Schnitzel can never compete with a freshly made one. Btw - the regular snacks on today's Austrian are indeed disappointing. Have a look at the nice snack I got on that VIE-MUC sector two years ago.
sultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1173 posts, RR: 29 Reply 10, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2238 times:
Hello Alex,
Another nice report of yours. Good to see you trying a different airline ex-OTP If ever RO pissed you off, this was right in their face. But one question: was OS really the better choice?
Nice destination pics as well from Vienna.
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): Now if only we'd get rid of the old mentality at TAROM check-in desks as well.
I hear you. I believe I experienced that as well. Still, if it's common practice in your country, why bother with it?
very nice report about your OS experience. You also took nice pictures in Vienna, I have always enjoyed my stays there.
Hi PlaneHunter,
THank you very much for reading! Vienna is a nice city--no wonder it's always in the top few for best quality-of-life.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9): Yes, unfortunately...I guess I won't get the chance again to add OS with its Austrian AOC to my log.
Luckily I managed to do so in 2000...
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9): Ha, now guess which aircraft I flew on and which seat I had two years ago...here are the answers:
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100 (by PlaneHunter Dec 25 2010 in Trip Reports)
Interesting--yes, I remember reading your 380 report a while ago. Interesting to see it's the same bird--although somehow the same seat doesn't strike me as odd--after all, what A.netter would not choose 20A if available?
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9): That meal looks great - but well, a warmed up Schnitzel can never compete with a freshly made one. Btw - the regular snacks on today's Austrian are indeed disappointing. Have a look at the nice snack I got on that VIE-MUC sector two years ago.
Indeed. Schnitzels should always be fresh! It's so much better when fresh I wonder if the decrease in snack quality has anything to do with OS' problems this year...
Another nice report of yours. Good to see you trying a different airline ex-OTP If ever RO pissed you off, this was right in their face. But one question: was OS really the better choice?
Hello, Nils:
Well, I don't only fly RO, that's for sure... My January reports will vouch for that
Was OS the better choice? Well, the F100 made it a good choice. I can't say for sure which airline is better... But you'll struggle more to see the good sides if you fly RO.
I haven't flown OS enough to have a definite idea on them, but they don't seem all that great in my limited experience. Being unused to balkan-style customer service means Westerners might prefer OS...
Quoting sultanils (Reply 10): Seriously? I've seen and eaten much better sandwiches on flights. Last time on LH I got a very nice duo. This is disappointing...
Yeah, and this is better than the previous times I've flown OS.
Just because I'm not sure why the disparity between other airlines and Tyrolean exists. Nothing more.
Quoting sultanils (Reply 10): Oh, this is the reference to the report title, no? What a strange looking tray...
Yes-that's the reference indeed
Quoting sultanils (Reply 10): Yes, those were the ones, thanks for the ref. Still empty I see
No problem...
Your neighbors to the North are blocking us, at least according to Romanian media. The elderly and the left-wingers just hate "Holland" now... not that they'd have any money to travel in the first place. The young ones still love it, because it has weed and that's more important than Schengen for them, I guess.
FLIEGER67 From Georgia, joined Sep 2003, 4387 posts, RR: 57 Reply 12, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2124 times:
Hi, A.,
one more good read.
Nice pictures from Vienna and also, more to my interest, Bratislava.
I will be there if it´s possible to fly out of BTS on a interesting airline!.
one more good read.
Nice pictures from Vienna and also, more to my interest, Bratislava.
I will be there if it´s possible to fly out of BTS on a interesting airline!.
Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)
Thank you very much, Markus.
BTS doesn't seem that active. If wikipedia is right only Danube Wings is interesting. Aside from them, just Norwegian and Ryanair. Unless you want to go to Russia with UTair...
Bratislava is poorly served by its own airport due to its proximity to VIE.
akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2331 posts, RR: 53 Reply 14, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1805 times:
Hi Alex,
Thank you so much for giving the insight review of OS. Herman went on business trip last month flying OS F100 and bought DO&CO meal as well. Guess what he ordered? The Schnitzel!
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): Well, after takeoff, I waited and waited—nothing. Finally, the F/As arrived to my row—I gave them the confirmation e-mail (I should NOT have to carry this around—in fact, I showed the e-version), and they brought me my pre-bought meal.
Odd! In case of Herman, the F/A even confirmed his order beforehand and brought the meal immediately after Business Class passengers were served.
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): (the fewer people you interact with, the better... especially at OTP).
Shame it has to be that way.
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): Luckily OTP is waking up and cruising past CDG and Italian or Spanish airports (though personally I haven't had problems!), for instance, at photography-friendliness
Kudos to OTP! I never had any problems at Spanish airports though, only on board of a Spanish airline…
I have looked up the accommodation. It looks decent indeed.
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): Since I don't think there are many reports of Bratislava, I added some pictures I took walking around this city.
Surely well-appreciated!
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter): It's easy to get from Petrzalka station to Bratislava's old town. Just follow the red bricks all the way to the bridge, and then cross the bridge. Once you've crossed the bridge... There you are.
I wonder how many people are aware of it. At least, I am, thanks to you.
Thank you so much for giving the insight review of OS. Herman went on business trip last month flying OS F100 and bought DO&CO meal as well. Guess what he ordered? The Schnitzel!
Hi Suryo,
Thank you for reading--and good to know about Herman's experience. The Schnitzel is definitely the way to go--although there was another good option, Hungarian style Chicken "Paprikas", although I forget what they call it.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 14): Odd! In case of Herman, the F/A even confirmed his order beforehand and brought the meal immediately after Business Class passengers were served.
Perhaps this is an indication that they're improving--as such, it's good to know.
CaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 578 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
Hi Alex,
nice report, some things are looking quite familiar for me having just done some flights on Austrian (or Tyrolean) as well just recently. Nice that you got both the Airbus and the Fokker. Also thanks for the nice pictures of Vienna, certainly an interesting city, and a good idea that you have fitted a visit to Bratislava in your trip as well.
Also that Schnitzel looks definitely nice, just sorry to hear that the service left a little bit to be desired.
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17): nice report, some things are looking quite familiar for me having just done some flights on Austrian (or Tyrolean) as well just recently.
Thank you very much!
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17): Nice that you got both the Airbus and the Fokker. Also thanks for the nice pictures of Vienna, certainly an interesting city, and a good idea that you have fitted a visit to Bratislava in your trip as well.
Yes, it is nice to vary, being my first OS A320. Still, I prefer the Fokker.
Vienna and Bratislava both get a thumbs-up from me. I never refuse a new country!
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17): Also that Schnitzel looks definitely nice, just sorry to hear that the service left a little bit to be desired.
Yes, I agree--however, according to Suryo's comments above, the service is improving