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First Time To Canada: RO 733, KL M11, Porter DH4  
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13640 times:

First time to Canada: RO 733, KL M11, Porter DH4

Hello all, and welcome to my new trip report, detailing my trip to Canada in mid-September.

RO 361, OTP-AMS, 733, YR-BGA “Alba Iulia” (1992 vintage)
KL 671, AMS-YUL, M11, PH-KCE “Audrey Hepburn”
PD 420, YUL-PD's fleet)

As you might know, and will undoubtedly be detailed in future trip reports on A.net, the MD-11 is approaching the end of its life with KLM. Thus, any reason is a good reason to take a trip on the ancient trijet which is certainly a treat for aviation enthusiasts. The MD-11 has a reputation of being less safe than it could've been. Its predecessor, the DC-10, was also known to cause problems every once in a while. Nevertheless, any modern airliner is certifiably safe—after all, it wouldn't pass flight tests otherwise.

There aren't many destinations in North America that would allow me to sample (once more) the MD-11. I found ATL and YUL as two airports where the MD-11 would operate during the summer season. Never having been to Canada, I chose the latter. Being in Canada, I couldn't pass up Porter and Westjet, two airlines having a positive reputation among aviation fans. Unfortunately, the latter would not happen—my flight got cancelled the day of, and I had to rebook on DL. As such, the later part of my journey will not be covered here.

Regarding the RO flight, I certainly preferred a 9:00am flight to one at 6 or 7, like KLM offered, even though the service on KLM is superior.

Porter would take me from Montreal to Toronto, ready to connect to my WS flight the next day (on a 736, no less—too bad it got cancelled the day of, due to weather).

The day of my departure I was very very tired. This would come back to bite me... Anyway, the apartment building where I live while in Romania got a makeover. The “maintenance” works started at 7 am and went on til 7 pm, every day except Sunday. As such, I was robbed of about 3 hours of sleep per day—never mind the pre-departure preparations.

I took a taxi to the airport, as is the case when I leave Romania for a long-haul, or early morning journey. Again, no problems, and soon enough I got to the airport.

Mrs. Bici from my earlier RO report was still womanning desk 13. As a result I went to desk 12. Not that that helped. This one wasn't very helpful either. Well, at least she didn't start an argument by her demeanor, and after asking twice or thrice I finally got my itinerary for the journey, in case I'd need it at Canada immigration. My bag was tagged to Montreal and I wouldn't see it until then.

Next step—going through security—as always, not a big problem in Europe. I was through in a couple of minutes or so. Then, immigration... Well, they don't like my Romanian ID from 2005. Well, female agents don't, and only on exit—never had a problem on entry or with a male agent. Maybe they want to keep me there for themselves? I doubt it. I'm not tall or tanned and I don't have a lot of money. Neither am I a footballer.

Hmmm... I should stay away from these women in Romania. Men in customer service or “relatii cu publicul” (translated directly as “relations with the public”) positions are generally nicer and more helpful. This, I find, is the same as in Italy. Of course, this is a generalization. In fact, I think, as with all things regarding “niceness”, it applies mostly/only in Bucharest, where such a concept (niceness) is, uhm, shall we say... “less familiar”. You find people as nice as in other countries when you leave the capital...

OK, well, next step—going to the lounge. RO's lounge (which is also the SkyTeam lounge) isn't all that. It features free wi-fi, drinks and snacks. Surprisingly, they hadn't changed the password in months. Hmmm... I watched whatever I could see on the apron, before proceeding to my gate. I think it was gate 36, downstairs... A bus gate. I boarded the bus when the time came. When it arrived in front of the 20-year old 733, I was the last to step off, strategically so I could take some pictures—luckily enough in the past few years I haven't had any trouble in doing so at OTP. They even release spotting ID cards and hold “open-gate days”, when people can visit the airport perimeter.

Well, enough talking—here are some pictures:

RO 737 middle section:


YR-BGA and an A318 in the background:


Alba-Iulia is its name:


Air Bucharest B733:


Yes, this is the Air Bucharest 733 which appeared in sultanils' report “Flying Blue and Nonstop You”, which I'll add a link to, provided I'll remember to do so   This airline is owned by someone with a very ancient mentality—there's a “hate group” dedicated to him on a Romanian spotting/airline news forum. Well, not really—but he's not very popular.

Well, I boarded and took my seat 09F. The airplane's age can be seen in the state of the windows... As luck would have it, AMS is one of the destinations operated with older 733's which do not feature IFE.

Flight: TAROM 361
Aircraft: Boeing 737-300
Registration: YR-BGA
STD/STA: 0900-1100
ATD/ATA: roughly on time
Seat: 09F

Window view through the scratched window:


Well, I took my leave and fell asleep for a little bit... I woke up upon hearing (smelling?) the food service coming my way. Well, it's breakfast—not my most favorite meal of the day.

What does RO offer? Well, unlike LH on my flight to FRA earlier in 2012—they offer breakfast. Hmm, I see some omelet, some bacon, a piece of a tomato (again—why?), a red apple, some jam, butter and bread. Not bad for 2012. The quality is decent. Certainly eatable. And the apple is a nice surprise. Also, you get some Lipton tea upon request. I believe you can choose between two or three types of black tea (lemon and forest fruits; maybe also plain) and green tea with mint. I chose the latter, pictured below. Overall, good service by TAROM. I can't complain about the quality of this service at all. 2 drink runs and an actual meal is more than you come to expect... coming from America, it's even more impressive.

Food:


Some bread, butter, bacon and omelette, apricot jam and an apple:


Green Tea with Mint—they have 3 flavors of tea to choose from:


Well, the flight was nearing its end, after about 2 and a half hours. Soon we were on the ground at AMS, ready to taxi to our parking position at the D pier... well, right at the end of the D Pier.

On descent into AMS:


Urban view:


747:


An interesting visitor—IR's A300:


777:


Alba-Iulia at the gate in AMS:


I proceeded to the non-Schengen KLM Crown Lounge (aka Lounge 52). I relaxed, answered some comments on my trip reports, and looked forward to my journey on the MD-11... I also found out the aircraft that will operate my flight would be PH-KCE (which I believe would also take adamspotter to Chicago a couple of months later—looking forward to your report, Brendan). I had about 3 hours to lose in the Crown Lounge... I grabbed myself some snacks, some red tea with spices, and continued to relax.

MD-11:


KLM tails:


When time was about done, I headed to the gate... Um... well, it was a bit of a clusterfuck here, I must say. There was a looooooooooooooooong line with people heading to Montreal... and I couldn't see a queue for “SkyPriority”. Well, I asked the guy manning the line where SkyPriority was... apparently, there was a line behind the massive queue—I missed the sign because I didn't realize it was halfway through the queue, and not at any end. Well, I made my way through and after a couple of questions I was through to the security check—this wasn't too fast, but not too slow either. I had a bit of time to take a few pictures of Ms. Hepburn, sitting right outside the window, at the gate.

Heading towards the gate:


Audrey Hepburn taking us to YUL:


Flight: KLM 671
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas MD-11
Registration: PH-KCE
STD/STA: 1525-1645
ATD/ATA: 1558-1653
Flight time: 6h 55'
Seat: 14J

Route EHAM-CYUL:


Finally, some excitement, getting on an MD-11, for my first true memories of flying this aircraft type! My last journey on it was unplanned—a DL MD-11 on ATL-CDG after I'd missed my planned flight on a 777. Was stuck in the middle seat, so I couldn't really enjoy that journey. Now I could.

MD-11: Huge windows, trijet... everything airlines hate nowadays. Excellent aircraft. Also, while it is 3-X-3, it was at least designed to be 9 seats across. Though 2-5-2 is undoubtedly superior (don't reply just to angrily say “no! 3-3-3 is da best ever!!!11!”, I don't care about your opinion if this is the case... and you won't change mine!), this will have to do.

Here's the MD-11 interior, pictured while everyone else was still stuck in the security queue.

Seat view:


B773 at the gate next door:


Legroom view:


Seat back view (quite plain):


Welkom on board:


Huge MD-11 window:


Engine right next to me:


Safety card:


Pillow and blanket:


Well, I hope you've enjoyed the pictures above, even though I can't say cabin pics are my specialty. Well, a few tens of minutes later, everyone was onboard and we were ready to go, with a bit of a delay. No problem, more time for me to enjoy my beast. Not to mention the KL 773 next door—not very excited about that one, mind you--with its 3-4-3 config and all! That's what aviation's heading to... Gotta travel more while it's still pleasant.

Everyone cares about IFE and price, no one cares that every good long-haul configuration is going away... Well, there's always Premium Economy and Business Class I guess (the latter of which is going to herring-bone soon, no doubt... can you say “yeech”?).

Well, I was still excited about this trip. Yes, sir (or madam), M11, DH4, 736, Porter, Westjet... Sounds good so far.

Pushback:


KLM retro 738:


AMS is a 2-level airport—look at that F100 boarding on the top level  

E-190 first:


EK A380:


Departure occurred from runway 24/06, although I forget from which end. No Polderbaan, this time. Perhaps it was being used for arrivals.

After a while, the snack and a drink were served. I got the Coca-Cola product pictured below.

Almonds and coke:


After another half-hour or so, the meal trolley made its appearance in the aisle. I got the pasta meal. I was contemplating getting a special Italian meal, but in the end I decided against that for the reason that KL's choices are really not choices for me at all. I could choose between the Italian meal and the Italian meal... Otherwise I wouldn't eat it all.

Speaking about meals... I should've taken the upgrade to C for 250 Euros the machine at AMS offered me when I checked my reservation. I was 50-50 on it, but in the end I chose to not do so... Possibly because the 2-3-2 config in business class (I forget the actual reason). Well, we all make mistakes  

The meal was decent, though thoroughly unspectacular, unlike other TATL flights I've taken on KLM—out of AMS, though, the meal is usually much better than the meal out of North America. Still, the presentation was good, and the portion was generous for an airline meal. I certainly give it a passing grade.

Meal presentation and coke:


Some pasta, cheese, bread, butter, salad, and creampuffs for desert:


I also decided to get some tea later on, when asked if I'd like a hot drink.

Hot drink:


Over the atlantic:


Well, a few hours later I'd get an amazing view (it's no mistake I got a seat on this side of the aircraft!). Greenland in all its glory and majesty. Well, words can barely start describing the view below, so I'm going to let the pictures do all the talking (again).

Greenland:


Greenland again:






Magnificent:








Well, the flight was not over yet, for certain. I got up to investigate the cabin—looks pretty modern, probably since KLM switched from a 2-4-3 to a 3-3-3 a few years back, and updated the cabins. Well, I don't know about you, but I'd rather take a 2-4-3 without PTV's than a 3-3-3 with PTV's. I also don't mind older looking cabins, even though I may comment on it for others' information.

Cabin view (sorry about the blurriness):


I also got a mid-/late-flight snack... Generally I like this kind of cherry-cake, but this one was pretty bad in all honesty. I don't remember if I finished it or not, but either way, it could've been better.

Late-flight snack:


Soon, we were nearing Montreal. The first hint: The St. Lawrence river.

St. Lawrence river:




On descent (nice winglets!):


Getting close now:


Touchdown (YUL seems not to have runway edge markings—seems rather rustic):


Well, here I was... Canada. I was there. I should comment that most of the people around me on the plane seemed to be either Romanian or, at the very least, be returning from OTP. Both people in my row, and a few a couple of rows back.

While walking to immigration, I was feeling rather unwell. Apparently the combination of tiredness (not resting on this flight, but rather watching a couple of movies—21 Jump Street and Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows) and caffeine made my body subject to palpitations and general malaise. Well, it wasn't anything too severe, but it made me paranoid for a long time regarding my general health (which seems to be good, knock on wood). Also, it would mean I wouldn't be able to enjoy Toronto as I had planned.

Soon, I was at immigration, got a Canadian stamp in my passport, got my bag, went through customs (a long line, here), found the left luggage station, showed them my e-confirmation for my flight to Toronto the next day, left my luggage, bought a day-pass for the bus and subway system, found the 747 bus, got on, and rode it all the way to Berri-UQAM, whence my hotel was a couple of blocks away. Upon descent, a lady asked me whether I knew where the subway station was. I didn't, of course, being my first time here. Still, it showed me Canadians were in fact, quite friendly. Soon, she found an entrance to the Metro and I headed towards my hotel a few blocks away. I took some pictures, and then proceeded to the Hotel Stay Centre-Ville, which I found for just under 40$ on booking.com for my required stay. What a deal! Strangely enough, hotels in Canada (at least the two I've stayed at) require a debit card to guarantee for incidentals. Maybe hotels in other countries do as well, but I've never had to give my CC to guarantee for something before as far as I remember.

That evening, I got myself something to drink, an aspirin, and I went back to my hotel room. It was already late for me, waking up at 6... It was already 2 am in Romania by the time I reached my hotel. Long day... I'd do some visiting tomorrow.

At Berri-UQAM:


Same place still:


OK, it was about time to see some of Montreal now. I headed to the nearest Metro Station and waited... and waited. There was an announcement that the next train in my direction would be a while (for some reason I didn't catch). The first one would be very full, so I waited for the 2nd one. Not much later I was out and about, ready to see Old Montreal. Here are some of the pictures I've taken on my strolls.

Next morning:


Looking towards the new city:


Fountain:


No swimming! (no shit!):


Lieutenant Vauquelin:




Main street in Vieux-Montreal:


Towards Marche-Bonsecours:


Bonsecours Market:


Rather unique church:


Old Port:


Along the riverside promenade:


Museum:


View from in front of a really nice Cathedral:


Inside:


Detail:


Organ pipes:


Not bad:


Yellowish chapel:


Statue and Cathedral:


A building that's not grey—are we still in Vieux-Montreal??


My opinion about Vieux-Montreal is changed because of several factors—early morning, almost no people, grey weather, and paranoia about health.

My first thoughts were along the lines of “People complain Bucharest is grey? Well, then, what would they think of Vieux-Montreal?” The architectural sights, that is, many old, stone buildings are charming in their way, but coupled with the atmosphere create the idea of a ghost town... dreary. Well, that's my impression, anyway.

Every time I tried communicating in French, people gladly switched to English, so don't be concerned; actually, except at the hotel... But I didn't mind that. If I know the language, why not use it?

The cathedral is beautiful; maybe not the best in the world but definitely a must-see. The bluish tinge was really nice to see live. Hopefully the pictures do it some justice, at least.

Afterwards, I headed back to the hotel, got myself some breakfast, got my backpack, and went to the more modern side of Montreal.

Old(er) and New:


Near the McGill campus looking towards Mont-Royal:


Quite different looking buildings:


Park:


Equestrian Statue:


Monumental building:


Marie-Reine-du-Monde:


A mix of styles:


New Montreal was a nice place for a stroll. I enjoyed my limited time there. It wasn't as dreary-looking as Vieux-Montreal, although the weather had gotten better since that morning... Well, after a couple of hours or so later, I grabbed the 747 bus to the Airport, and retrieved my bag. Then, I went to Porter's check-in area, used a self-service check-in kiosk, got my boarding pass and proceeded to a desk to drop-off my bag. Everything went smoothly. Off to security... Well, the line seemed rather long, but it wasn't too bad.

Once inside, I passed a Starbucks and a Tim Horton's (both of which I remember featured a longish queue), and found another place serving food—but I've forgotten what that was, sorry. While eating my lunch, I saw a Garuda A330 (chartered from Air Transat?), alongside the ubiquitous Dashes and Canadairs. My flight had accumulated a bit of delay coming in from Halifax.

Montreal's Dorval Airport:


Looking for Porter Check-in Desks:


AC Express Dash 8 to AC Jetz and a Garuda (leased) A330:


A Canadair in Canada—who'd've thought?


Dashes—you might've seen them in Palmjet's recent report:


Red jazz:


Flight: Porter 420
Aircraft: Dash 8-400Q
Registration: C-GLQB
STD/S.T.A: 1430-1540
ATD/ATA: 1444-1542
Seat: 16A

Route YUL-YTZ:


Boarded:


Porter, at first, didn't seem to stand out. Nevertheless, once I stepped aboard, why flyers like this airline became clear—the legroom is quite good, as is onboard service. Their stage lengths are still quite small, so don't expect steak. However, it's quite different to most other North American airlines I've sampled. On an one hour flight we received a bottle of water, a cookie and a pack of almonds, served with a smile. Unfortunately, I chose a seat on the wrong side of the airplane that day. The approach was out of the East, which meant the right side saw the Skyline on arrival, and I didn't get to do so. Damn.

Re:porter (haha, get it?):


Seat detail:


Porter service:


Modern-looking Dash 8:


Closer and closer:


We've landed:


What a gate!--This should come in handy in -40 temperatures in winter though:


Dash 7s:


After disembarking, I collected my bag (it was already there IIRC), headed to the ferry—the shortest scheduled ferry trip in the world—crossed the minuscule waterway, and took the free Porter bus to downtown Toronto. I then took the subway to the station closest to my hotel, the Delta Chelsea, where I'd booked a room via Priceline.

Overall:
Porter is a nice little airline, and Toronto City Center Billy Bishop is a very convenient airport going to downtown Toronto. Easy access to public transportation, either the streetcar, or the subway via the free shuttle bus.

Well, that's about it for this report; thanks for reading and, as usual, comments/questions are always appreciated.

Previous Trip Reports:
Austrian To VIE, Plus Bratislava And A Schnitzel (by dc9northwest Dec 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
SFO-JFK On AA, 762, And LGA-MDW On WN, 738 (by dc9northwest Dec 19 2012 in Trip Reports)
California Dreamin': Virgin To SFO (by dc9northwest Dec 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Moldovan Adventure: Chisinau And 9U From VCE To OT (by dc9northwest Aug 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
AZ, MLA-FCO-BLQ, And San Marino (by dc9northwest Aug 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Malta On Emirates' A330-200 (LCA-MLA) (by dc9northwest Aug 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
TAROM, OTP-LCA, B737-300, And Nicosia (by dc9northwest Aug 23 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part V: LYR-OTP, SK/OS, 73G/100 (by dc9northwest Aug 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part IV: Tromsø Og Svalbard (by dc9northwest Aug 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part III: Bodø, And A Widerøe Dash 8 To Tromsø (by dc9northwest Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part II: Bergen/Trondheim (by dc9northwest Jul 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part I: OTP-FRA-OSL, LH, A320 (by dc9northwest Jul 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
Delta's 757-300, FLL-ATL, 22MAY12 (by dc9northwest Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
ORD-JFK-FCO-OTP, B6/DL/AZ, June 2012 (by dc9northwest Jun 16 2012 in Trip Reports)
Bahamasair's 737-200, UP205, 21MAY12 (by dc9northwest May 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, ORD-CDG, Delta, 763 (by dc9northwest Apr 8 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, FCO-JFK-ORD, Delta, 333/CR7 (by dc9northwest Apr 1 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, OTP-FCO, Alitalia, A319 (by dc9northwest Mar 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
MCI-OTP: Three Upgrades And A380 Flight Deck Visit (by dc9northwest Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Baltic States In 6 Easy Flights (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Romanian TR: Bucuresti-Suceava Via Timisoara (by dc9northwest Dec 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Connecting In ATL, Right Before The Snowstorm (by dc9northwest Mar 1 2010 in Trip Reports)
MCI-ATL-AMS-OTP With DL And KL (60+pics And Vids) (by Dc9northwest Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)


[Edited 2012-12-26 05:30:17]

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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6640 posts, RR: 78
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13567 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

another nice report! You chose an interesting routing/airline/type combo. I'm not a fan of KLM's long-haul product, though.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The airplane's age can be seen in the state of the windows...

Which is not possible on LH's 737s, for example...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, unlike LH on my flight to FRA earlier in 2012—they offer breakfast. Hmm, I see some omelet, some bacon, a piece of a tomato (again—why?), a red apple, some jam, butter and bread. Not bad for 2012.

That's not bad at all for such a short flight. What did LH serve?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas MD-11
Registration: PH-KCE

And another well known bird: PH-KCE flew me from MSP to AMS in 2004, what a great ride it was! But I was seated in the last row, window of course.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Huge windows, trijet... everything airlines hate nowadays.

It's rather the fuel costs which they hate...and you find huge windows on the 787.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Also, while it is 3-X-3, it was at least designed to be 9 seats across. Though 2-5-2 is undoubtedly superior

I agree - but 2-4-3 was even better.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
the latter of which is going to herring-bone soon, no doubt...

Oh no...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Speaking about meals... I should've taken the upgrade to C for 250 Euros the machine at AMS offered me when I checked my reservation. I was 50-50 on it, but in the end I chose to not do so... Possibly because the 2-3-2 config in business class

Wow, what a great offer! I cannot believe that you didn't accept it. 2-3-2 isn't bad as long as if you can avoid the middle seat.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13414 times:
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Hi again Alex,

Definitely struggling to keep up with your posting pace but don't mind that   Finally (?) another decent RO flight and how cool to see you on the MD11. I probably won't have the chance anymore to fly on that type but I don't mind. There will be a steady stream of TR's featuring that type before it'll be gone completely.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
and an A318 in the background

Probably the one that I missed out upon...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Yes, this is the Air Bucharest 733 which appeared in sultanils' report “Flying Blue and Nonstop You”

Yes it is! Thanks again for the reference. Ugly and beautiful plane at the same time.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
2 drink runs and an actual meal is more than you come to expect

True and that's how in fact it should be on a flight that lenghty, no?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Some pasta, cheese, bread, butter, salad, and creampuffs for desert

For dessert will be more appropriate I guess  That meal looks good and tasty for sure!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
AC Jetz and a Garuda (leased) A330

Jetz = the new Jazz? Nice to see the Garuda there, wonder who it operated for.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Re:porter (haha, get it?)

No...  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Dash 7s

Nice pic. It looks like the planes stand just beside the water.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13070 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
PD 420, YUL-PD's fleet)

It seems that somehow A.net managed to screw up some formatting even if I left everything as simple as I could. This was supposed to say "PD 420, YUL-YTZ, C-GLQB (the oldest Dash in PD's fleet)". Sorry about that...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Hi dc9northwest,

another nice report! You chose an interesting routing/airline/type combo. I'm not a fan of KLM's long-haul product, though.

Hi PlaneHunter,

Thanks for reading and replying so quickly!

KL's pretty good in Y in my opinion--I hear it's not the best in Business, though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
That's not bad at all for such a short flight. What did LH serve?

A leek roll. It's the one I talked about here: Norway, Part I: OTP-FRA-OSL, LH, A320 (by dc9northwest Jul 22 2012 in Trip Reports)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
And another well known bird: PH-KCE flew me from MSP to AMS in 2004, what a great ride it was! But I was seated in the last row, window of course.

Ah, I guess it must be the special A.net bird, then  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
It's rather the fuel costs which they hate...and you find huge windows on the 787.

I know, I know. But they do hate trijets due to the fuel costs...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I agree - but 2-4-3 was even better.

2-4-3 is good as well. I believe both KL and AY featured this on their MD-11s at some point. Maybe KL's was 3-4-2, though, not sure.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Oh no...

That's just my guess...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Wow, what a great offer! I cannot believe that you didn't accept it. 2-3-2 isn't bad as long as if you can avoid the middle seat.

No, even with 2-3-2 it was a bad call on my part... Oh well  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
Hi again Alex,

Definitely struggling to keep up with your posting pace but don't mind that   Finally (?) another decent RO flight and how cool to see you on the MD11. I probably won't have the chance anymore to fly on that type but I don't mind. There will be a steady stream of TR's featuring that type before it'll be gone completely.

Hi Nils,

You don't seem to be struggling at all, actually  

Thanks for reading and replying so quickly. Yes, the MD-11 is a special little airplane and, as you say, there will be a number of reports on it popping up every now and then. It seems I won't fly on one again, as the routes become fewer and fewer. But you never know.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
Probably the one that I missed out upon...

Well, you're always welcome to try again   If you try in summer, I'll probably be around.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
True and that's how in fact it should be on a flight that lenghty, no?

Yes, definitely agree here.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
Yes it is! Thanks again for the reference. Ugly and beautiful plane at the same time.

No problem, I liked that report. Yes... Good enough for charters.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
For dessert will be more appropriate I guess  That meal looks good and tasty for sure!

Whoops! You're definitely right  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
Jetz = the new Jazz? Nice to see the Garuda there, wonder who it operated for.

I can't keep track of all the AC brands... Jazz, Jetz, Rouge...

Garuda... probably a bird they leased for Hajj season (?)

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
Nice pic. It looks like the planes stand just beside the water.

Thanks, Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 2):
No...  

Almost seems like something you'd come up with  

Thanks for reading and commenting, guys!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12369 times:

Hi Alex !

Nice report with nice pictures as always !

Good to see that RO has great service with a very nice breakfast!

KL seems to be okay but I'm not a fan of the MD-11. I have one flight on a M11 SR HKG-MNL about 15 years ago and that's good enough for me.

Meal looks okay but nothing special on KL.

Looking forward to your next report!

Porter looks very good; excellent legroom and nice with some snacks even on such a short flight.

The777Man



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12366 times:

Hi Alex,

thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear you had no luck with Westjet. That said, did you know that you could actually book a ticket i.e. BUH-AMS-YUL (Stopover) and then Westjet to YYZ? It doesn't even need to have a KL Codeshare on it. It's a legal KLM through ticketing connection, but usually you need a travel agent to book it, as KLM and Online travel agencies want show these options. However you squeezed Porter in instead, and that's perfectly good as well.

Concerning Credit/Debit Card for incidentials, this is usual in North America. In the US its# the same. Never stayed at any hotel in the US which didn't wanted to have a CC for incidentials, even in the cheapest Motel....


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):

Hi Alex !

Nice report with nice pictures as always !

Hi L.!

Thanks very much for reading!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Good to see that RO has great service with a very nice breakfast!

Indeed--very good, relatively. Though the presentation is quite weak.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
KL seems to be okay but I'm not a fan of the MD-11. I have one flight on a M11 SR HKG-MNL about 15 years ago and that's good enough for me.

Well, we all have our preferences. I like the MD-11 for the simple fact that it's different from anything else in our skies at the moment...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Porter looks very good; excellent legroom and nice with some snacks even on such a short flight.

Yeah, porter was very good--no surprise there, hearing its success story. Great little airline.

Again, thanks for reading and replying!

Quoting reifel (Reply 5):
thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear you had no luck with Westjet. That said, did you know that you could actually book a ticket i.e. BUH-AMS-YUL (Stopover) and then Westjet to YYZ? It doesn't even need to have a KL Codeshare on it. It's a legal KLM through ticketing connection, but usually you need a travel agent to book it, as KLM and Online travel agencies want show these options. However you squeezed Porter in instead, and that's perfectly good as well.

Hi reifel,

Thank you for reading and commenting!

Yeah, it was a bit of a shame to miss the WS 736. Indeed, I considered doing a connection from the KL M11 to WS to Toronto. Two things were not ideal: don't remember if KL showed a 1-night stop in YUL and then, I could only get PD with a self-made connection the same day, which seemed risky. I booked a WS/DL connection on DL's website... which is good cause otherwise I might have missed my flight due to Westjet's cancellation.

Quoting reifel (Reply 5):
Concerning Credit/Debit Card for incidentials, this is usual in North America. In the US its# the same. Never stayed at any hotel in the US which didn't wanted to have a CC for incidentials, even in the cheapest Motel....

Well, I booked online as I always do, so I'm sure they already had my CC. I don't remember the same procedure in San Francisco, for instance. I'm sure they could charge me if I broke something, but there's not that 50$ "hold" on my account... Maybe I was lucky?

Anyway, thanks for your comments, reifel!


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12016 times:
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Great report, dc9northwest!

Tarom looks pretty good, and the food on KLM always looks tasty in Economy. 250 Euros for Business?! That doesn't sound too bad at all, but I guess it could be viewed as a lot if the flight is only 7/8 hours in length ...

I loved your photos of Montreal. Its definitely a city I'd like to get back too. I haven't been in years!

Best,

Matthew (767747)


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11205 times:

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):

Great report, dc9northwest!

Tarom looks pretty good, and the food on KLM always looks tasty in Economy. 250 Euros for Business?! That doesn't sound too bad at all, but I guess it could be viewed as a lot if the flight is only 7/8 hours in length ...

I loved your photos of Montreal. Its definitely a city I'd like to get back too. I haven't been in years!

Best,

Matthew (767747)

Hey Matthew,

Thanks for your comments!

No, 250 Euros is decent, even for that distance... Now, on a night flight... definitely worth it. On a 747, again really worth it. I was just happy to be on the MD-11 at that point!

RO is good once you take-off. KL is my favorite TATL airline (I don't include 5th freedom ones), but I didn't try BA (LHR used to be terrible, not sure now), VS or LH on a long-haul. I hope to see VS moving towards SkyTeam...

The pictures are better evidence of Montreal than what I said--wasn't the best of witnesses back then

Thanks again, Matthew!


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2951 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10989 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
I can't keep track of all the AC brands... Jazz, Jetz, Rouge...

Garuda... probably a bird they leased for Hajj season (?)

TS leases A330s to Garuda for Hajj, that would be the one you saw, probably just returned.

Brands:
Jetz is the "sports charter" division of AC, all J class A319s or 320s
Jazz is not part of AC, it operates as Air Canada Express but is a separate entity owned by Chorus
Rouge is new LCCish

Gone:
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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10710 times:

Hello Alex

Another great read, thanks for sharing it with us!

I've taken that same flight to YUL back in 2010 and we genarally share the same opinion, while not a cuiliairy delight we had great service onboard. Another fact I did not like about KL was it's non user friendly IFE system.
That said, the MD11 is and will stay a great aircraft!

Interesting to see you flew Porter. Service looks a bit similar to my AC flight in Feb. However seating looks better


take care

Marc



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10462 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 9):
TS leases A330s to Garuda for Hajj, that would be the one you saw, probably just returned.

Brands:
Jetz is the "sports charter" division of AC, all J class A319s or 320s
Jazz is not part of AC, it operates as Air Canada Express but is a separate entity owned by Chorus
Rouge is new LCCish

Gone:
Tango... the original all Y division 320, 732
Zip... the original LCC division, 732

Hi NorthStarDC4M!

Thanks very much for the information.

I'm still of the opinion that AC operates under too many different brands, but if it works for them... All's well.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 10):

Hello Alex

Another great read, thanks for sharing it with us!

Hey Marc,

Thanks very much for reading!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 10):
I've taken that same flight to YUL back in 2010 and we genarally share the same opinion, while not a cuiliairy delight we had great service onboard. Another fact I did not like about KL was it's non user friendly IFE system.
That said, the MD11 is and will stay a great aircraft!

Yup, that sums everything up nicely. I don't remember much about the IFE system, but I find it superior to what DL has on the 330s at least. That's a pretty bad one.

MD-11 rules. I wonder if we'd say the same thing if we had 500 in our skies though  
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 10):
Interesting to see you flew Porter. Service looks a bit similar to my AC flight in Feb. However seating looks better

Can't compare it too well to AC, but PD has 34-in pitch according to what I've read.

Definitely wanted to give Porter a try.

Thanks again, guys!


User currently onlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10109 times:

Nice report as always, some great destination pictures there too!

Good choice to fly the MD-11 while you still can, I was glad to fly one 2 years ago. KL meal service does seem a little disappointing this time, not what I am used from them!


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):
Nice report as always, some great destination pictures there too!

Good choice to fly the MD-11 while you still can, I was glad to fly one 2 years ago. KL meal service does seem a little disappointing this time, not what I am used from them!

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your reply!

Yes, needed to do an M11 soon, so thought this was the perfect opportunity. As you say, KL meals are usually a bit better than this... Pasta is a very boring meal.

Thanks again!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8869 times:

Hey Alex. Time to read some of your older reports which I missed while sunbathing in St.Kitts.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Mrs. Bici from my earlier RO report was still womanning desk 13. As a result I went to desk 12.

Ah, Mrs Bici. She has become something of a celebrity. I'd like to meet her (not).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, they don't like my Romanian ID from 2005. Well, female agents don't, and only on exit—never had a problem on entry or with a male agent. Maybe they want to keep me there for themselves? I doubt it. I'm not tall or tanned and I don't have a lot of money. Neither am I a footballer.

I'm guessing Romania now issues a new type of IDs that looks different? Are they THAT different? My Bulgarian ID just expired and I need to get a new one but the new IDs are so ugly I wish I could keep my old one.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
hey even release spotting ID cards and hold “open-gate days”, when people can visit the airport perimeter.

How very nice. Tumbs up to that. Very civilized.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Air Bucharest B733:

My eyes hurt every time I look at this livery. Only in this part of the world...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Overall, good service by TAROM. I can't complain about the quality of this service at all. 2 drink runs and an actual meal is more than you come to expect... coming from America, it's even more impressive.

That's pretty decent I must say. Well done TAROM! I don’t remember being given such a nice meal on my OTP-BRU flight with TAROM a few years back. But then again I don’t remember much from that flight. Spending a sleepless night at OTP would do that to you…

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, a few hours later I'd get an amazing view (it's no mistake I got a seat on this side of the aircraft!). Greenland in all its glory and majesty. Well, words can barely start describing the view below, so I'm going to let the pictures do all the talking (again).

My favorite part of westward TATL crossings. Unfortunately the last 2-3 times I crossed the pond we flew much more southerly than normal so it's been a while since I last laid eyes on lady Greenland.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The cathedral is beautiful; maybe not the best in the world but definitely a must-see. The bluish tinge was really nice to see live. Hopefully the pictures do it some justice, at least.

I have some very similar photos from this cathedral. It's the Notre Dame Basilica of Montreal. Do they still charge people to let them inside?

How nice that you got to fly one more time the big trijet. Unfortunately I never got to do so. At least I managed to fly the Lockheed Tristar before it went the way of the buffalo.

Thanks for the nice read,

Stojan



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
Hey Alex. Time to read some of your older reports which I missed while sunbathing in St.Kitts.

Hey Stojan, thanks for commenting!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
I'm guessing Romania now issues a new type of IDs that looks different? Are they THAT different? My Bulgarian ID just expired and I need to get a new one but the new IDs are so ugly I wish I could keep my old one.

I don't know what kind of ID Romania issues now. I just don't look much like the guy on my ID! Hmm... I guess they probably do have a new design, though.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
How very nice. Tumbs up to that. Very civilized.

Yeah, RO does that too BTW, every once in a blue moon.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
My eyes hurt every time I look at this livery. Only in this part of the world...
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
That's pretty decent I must say. Well done TAROM! I don’t remember being given such a nice meal on my OTP-BRU flight with TAROM a few years back. But then again I don’t remember much from that flight. Spending a sleepless night at OTP would do that to you…

Yes, well done indeed. The service standard (but not the quality) seems to be closer to Korean Air than to European airlines (sandwich 2h). Well, I'll write about that soon enough   Yeah, not a big fan of (not) sleeping in airports!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
My favorite part of westward TATL crossings. Unfortunately the last 2-3 times I crossed the pond we flew much more southerly than normal so it's been a while since I last laid eyes on lady Greenland.

That's too bad. it's nice to ogle at Greenland's icy bits.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
I have some very similar photos from this cathedral. It's the Notre Dame Basilica of Montreal. Do they still charge people to let them inside?

Yes, that's the one. And they still charge. 5 dollars, I believe.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
How nice that you got to fly one more time the big trijet. Unfortunately I never got to do so. At least I managed to fly the Lockheed Tristar before it went the way of the buffalo.

Yes, the MD-11... Too bad it doesn't have any subtypes, eh?   Well, there's still time, maybe you should try KLM next time you go to Europe.

Tristar is nice too--would be a Bistar if designed today.

Thanks, Stojan!


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8499 times:
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Hello there once again dc9northwest,

As you know I was looking forward to this report so its great I finally found the time to read it  
Great report with many nice pictures, a nice combination of different types and airlines, congrats! Really enjoyed it
TAROM looks quite ok here, always nice to get some breakfast and nice to hear it didn't taste like sh*t either!
KLM also looks quite ok, although I have to say the service (foodwise) was much better on my flight to Chicago last November!
Porter is an airline I have been wanting to fly for a while, great to see you enjoyed them like many others here have 
Great pictures of Montreal too!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
(which I believe would also take adamspotter to Chicago a couple of months later—looking forward to your report, Brendan)

indeed, finally started working on the report  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Audrey Hepburn taking us to YUL:

What a beauty!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Greenland in all its glory and majesty. Well, words can barely start describing the view below, so I'm going to let the pictures do all the talking

Beautiful! The clouds covered most of Greenland during my flight  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Re:porter (haha, get it?):

:D

cheers mate!

Brendan


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 8227 times:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
Hello there once again dc9northwest,

Hi there Mr. Adam Spotter  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
As you know I was looking forward to this report so its great I finally found the time to read it

Good to know. Is January as busy as December?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
Great report with many nice pictures, a nice combination of different types and airlines, congrats! Really enjoyed it

Thanks; I try to plan my journeys thusly  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
TAROM looks quite ok here, always nice to get some breakfast and nice to hear it didn't taste like sh*t either!

Yes, pretty good by them. They're way above average in the air (IMO) but way below on ground services (also IMO)...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
KLM also looks quite ok, although I have to say the service (foodwise) was much better on my flight to Chicago last November!

Yeah, to be honest I was expecting something a bit more special. Like a thai green curry chicken, as I had on my previous TATL with them...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
Porter is an airline I have been wanting to fly for a while, great to see you enjoyed them like many others here have 

Yup, nice little airline, too bad there was no time to try it when you were in Toronto!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
indeed, finally started working on the report  

Good to know!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 16):
Beautiful! The clouds covered most of Greenland during my flight  

Ah, that's a shame--better luck next time--oh wait, you got an MD-11... you wanted Greenland too?  

Thanks a lot for your comments, Brendan!


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2430 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7072 times:

Hi Alex,

What an exciting Thursday evening read! Montreal, Porter and most of all KLM!  


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Mrs. Bici from my earlier RO report was still womanning desk 13

How could one not become superstitious by number ‘13’ after learning your previous experience?..

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I'm not tall or tanned and I don't have a lot of money. Neither am I a footballer.

How about yourself being good looking and muscular?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Hmm, I see some omelet, some bacon, a piece of a tomato (again—why?), a red apple, some jam, butter and bread.

Yummy! Also with the tomato!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
and after a couple of questions I was through to the security check

I didn’t know that you would get questioned as well for Canada. I thought it only applied for passengers of US bound flights.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Though 2-5-2 is undoubtedly superior

I second that! 


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
AMS is a 2-level airport—look at that F100 boarding on the top level

Top tier boarding for Panorama Terrace visitors!  


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
EK A380:

I hope I can fly with A380 one day.  


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I could choose between the Italian meal and the Italian meal... Otherwise I wouldn't eat it all.

Only one choice? I thought KL offered other cuisines as well. Indonesian for instance.   


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I should've taken the upgrade to C for 250 Euros the machine at AMS offered me when I checked my reservation.

250 Euros? That’s not bad!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, we all make mistakes  

We’re just human beings.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
If I know the language, why not use it?

Do you speak French as well? Cool!   


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
a Garuda (leased) A330:

But why painted in older livery?  


Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
What a gate!-

Impressive! Never seen such gate design before!


Thanks a lot for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo  



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6922 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Hi Alex,

What an exciting Thursday evening read! Montreal, Porter and most of all KLM!  

Dear Suryo,

Thanks for taking the time to comment on my report this Thursday evening--I hope you enjoyed!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
How could one not become superstitious by number ‘13’ after learning your previous experience?..

Indeed, it's a number "dedicated" to bad experiences... However, I am not superstitious by nature!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
How about yourself being good looking and muscular?

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder... But muscular? No way  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Yummy! Also with the tomato!

Warm tomatoes are not any good IMO. Cold tomatoes... now we're talking  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
I didn’t know that you would get questioned as well for Canada. I thought it only applied for passengers of US bound flights.

I thought so too. However, US, Canada and Israel flights have a heightened level of security--though I don't know why Canada too! They've never upset anybody  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Top tier boarding for Panorama Terrace visitors!  

I've been to AMS so many times but never been to the terrace. Goal for this year: remedy this situation.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
I hope I can fly with A380 one day.  

I am sure you shall do so, eventually  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Only one choice? I thought KL offered other cuisines as well. Indonesian for instance.   

Sure, I would like to try Indonesian--however it comes with fish, of which I'm not a big fan  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
250 Euros? That’s not bad!

I'm kicking myself--would've been nice... If it was a 747... would've been right on it. That's the "true" first class experience IMO!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Do you speak French as well? Cool!   

I read to some extent in many languages and speak a few: French and Italian (again, to some extent!).

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
But why painted in older livery?

I do not know, Suryo. I am not sure what was going on with the bird, to be honest  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Impressive! Never seen such gate design before!

Yes--must be useful in -40 temperatures in winter   Canada and all that  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Best wishes,
Suryo  

Thanks for reading on this cold day for you, Suryo!

All the best  


User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6164 times:

Very nice report with amazing pictures, sorry to read you were sick on that trip

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The “maintenance” works started at 7 am and went on til 7 pm, every day except Sunday. As such, I was robbed of about 3 hours of sleep per day

that's suck, are they over now?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Then, immigration... Well, they don't like my Romanian ID from 2005.

Strange why?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Some bread, butter, bacon and omelette, apricot jam and an apple:

looks good but portions are really small

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Rather unique church:

This church reminds me an excellent school trip to Montreal, thank you so much for bringing me back some great memories

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Previous Trip Reports:

2012 seems to have been very exiting for you  


Many thanks for sharing

EAS/ Léonard



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5817 times:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
Very nice report with amazing pictures, sorry to read you were sick on that trip

Thank you very much, Léonard  
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
that's suck, are they over now?

Yes, it took 2-4 months (depending on what you consider working--loud noises took only 2 months) but they're over.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
Strange why?

Maybe because I look very different from back then?  
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
looks good but portions are really small

Yes, small, but at least something more consistent than on other airlines.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
This church reminds me an excellent school trip to Montreal, thank you so much for bringing me back some great memories

I'm glad I managed to bring back good memories for you 
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
2012 seems to have been very exiting for you  

Haha, yes, indeed, and I don't know how 2013 will fare in comparison!

Thanks for your comments, Léonard!


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5014 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5811 times:

I don't understand how I missed the report. But glad it finally surfaced and I got a chance to read. Very cool that you were able to fly the M11. KL keeps dragging them, and it is just great. Thanks again for sharing this.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Mrs. Bici from my earlier RO report was still womanning desk 13. As a result I went to desk 12. Not that that helped.

= Jaja. I had a wonderful Romanian crew lead on my EK flight recently, and she was telling me horror stories of working for RO.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Yes, this is the Air Bucharest 733 which appeared in sultanils' report “Flying Blue and Nonstop You”, which I'll add a link to, provided I'll remember to do so   This airline is owned by someone with a very ancient mentality—there's a “hate group” dedicated to him on a Romanian spotting/airline news forum. Well, not really—but he's not very popular.

= LOL. Explain! BTW, I thought this was an Arik Air plane.

Thanks again for sharing.

Saludos,
Alex



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 22):

I don't understand how I missed the report. But glad it finally surfaced and I got a chance to read. Very cool that you were able to fly the M11. KL keeps dragging them, and it is just great. Thanks again for sharing this.

Thanks for reading, Alex! Don't worry, I understand--I feel like I've missed a lot of reports lately! You have Suryo to thank for the resurfacing  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 22):
= Jaja. I had a wonderful Romanian crew lead on my EK flight recently, and she was telling me horror stories of working for RO.

I can only imagine--I only deal with RO a few times a year... Wonder what it feels like to have to deal with that mentality every day  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 22):
= LOL. Explain! BTW, I thought this was an Arik Air plane.

One of the members there (I think he lives in Germany) sent an e-mail asking questions like what plane they'll be operating, what destinations, etc... The guy apparently answered "what do you care? why do you want to know?". Also, they've been caught stealing pictures made by some members there without permission, including one made especially to test if they'll steal it--and they did (it had some sort of watermark saying "we steal pictures" or something like that) and put it on the website.

Yup, similar livery there.

Muchas gracias, Alex!


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