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Algarve Holiday With TAP (and FR): FKB-FAO-LIS-FRA  
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

Bom dia, fellow a.netters,

welcome to a short report about our family holiday to the Algarve last year, hope it brings a little sunshine into our current dull winter weather.

Introduction and Planning

Now with a child that has to go school one is quite limited when it comes to family holiday planning. I don't really want to go in the high summer season with its high prices and huge crowds of tourists everywhere. Fortunately there are other school holidays around the year, like the one-week autumn break at the end of October. Of course this time of the year a more southernly destination is preferred, so we decided to head to the Algarve in Southern Portugal, a region I always wanted to visit. Some options to Faro were available, by far the cheapest and with the best schedule was the Ryanair flight from FKB. But since this was the last flight of the season on this route we had to find an other option to return. Not that I mind, since flying the same way back is something I usually don't like   . After looking around a little I found a reasonable priced flight with TAP from FAO to FRA via LIS and booked that.

So in the end our route looked like this, three legs to go:


Map generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz.

Flight 1 (28.10.2012)
FKB-FAO (FR 5148)
Boeing 737-800 (EI-ENP)
Seat 27E
scheduled 12:30 – 14:20
actual 12:50 – 14:34
flight-time: 13:00 – 14:31 (2 hours 31 minutes)

My dad took us to the airport on this Sunday, where we arrived around 1 and a half hour before departure time. It was a complete mess in the check-in hall, oh dear, looks like we weren't the only ones to take advantage of this school holiday week  Wow! :

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_000.jpg

Well, what do you expect with three FR flights to popular holiday destinations departing within an hour. And since I couldn't convince my wife to travel only with carry-on this time we didn't have a choice than to join the long queue. Eventually we were also able to drop off our luggage and headed through security. This was surprisingly quick, despite all the families and only-once-in-a-year-flying tourists.

The inbound flight from FAO was delayed a few minutes, and even before it arrived boarding was called for our flight. As usual we had priority, so no need to play the crazy queuing game and we were out on the apron among the first passengers. My wife complained since we had to wait a few minutes there with a rather cold wind blowing, but I explained her that this is all part of the Ryanair experience. Our plane in the foreground, the one in the background was heading to one of the Canarias islands (oh my, 5 hours on board with FR, that would be too much even for me):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_001.jpg

EI-ENP would take us down to FAO today, less than two years old, and fortunately a new registration for me:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_002.jpg

We secured a three-seater for us, with me on the middle seat (No chance to get a window seat when my son flies with me   ).

“Now please take you seats as quickly as possible”:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_003.jpg

With the late arrival of the plane and the slow boarding (flight was completely full) departure was about 20 minutes late. The captain was on the speakers with a cheerful welcome (“Hello boys and girls!”) and an apology for the delay. He told us that they had to struggle with strong headwinds on the way here. Take-off then from runway 03 after the landing of an Air Berlin 737:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_004.jpg

This gave us a nice overview of the apron of FKB:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_005.jpg

The flight itself was just your usual Ryanair flight with the on-board commercial and sales show. The crew however was rather friendly this time, three young males and a cute red-haired female. We bought us a pack of M&Ms (the chocolate stuff, not the miles) to have something to nibble during the flight. The route took us over the Vosges mountains in France with already some snow on it:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_006.jpg

Even more snow over the Pyrenees mountains after crossing the whole of France on FL370:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_007.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_009.jpg

Cruising over Spain then and a little later this airport came into view:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_010.jpg

It was of course Madrid Barajas, the main airport of the Spanish capital:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_011.jpg

Descending then towards FAO already over the sea with great views over the Spanish and then the Portuguese coastline:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_012.jpg

The town of Faro:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_013.jpg

Faro airport seen from downwind towards runway 10:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_014.jpg

On short final:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_015.jpg

And touching down after a flight time of two and a half hours. We parked on the apron next to a Primera bird from Denmark (OY-PSC):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_016.jpg

Lufty was here as well with an A321 (D-AISD):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_017.jpg

Deboarding in the sunshine, more than 20 degrees around here and a slight breeze, good enough to get you into the holiday mood:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_018.jpg

But hey, let's not forget to get our luggage, it will arrive at “tapete 2”:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_019.jpg

And indeed, our bags arrived rather quickly, just hurry up if you need a baggage cart, there might not be enough for everyone   :

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_020.jpg

Algarve holiday

Out of the airport we picked up our rental car (after declining all the offers for extra insurance, navigation-systems, dishwasher, and so on) and after about 45 minutes on the road we arrived in the small village of Pera, where we would stay for the next 5 days. We had booked an apartment in a holiday resort named “Villas Barrocal”:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_033.jpg

One of our two bedrooms:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_021.jpg

Quite a nice place to stay, comfortable, big and clean apartment with everything you need. And excellent value for money, especially in the off-season, we paid less then 30,- Euro per night. First thing I did was to go out to the pool bar and had one of these    :



The next days we explored the coast of the Algarve with its beautiful beaches and sometimes spectacular rock formations:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_023.jpg



http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_049.jpg

Interesting flora as well:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_048.jpg

There was also time to do some cultural sightseeing, like the Moorish castle of Silves a little inland, quite an impressive building:



We were mostly lucky with the weather, just one day it was cloudy and raining a lot. So on this day we went to visit Faro. The cathedral was quite interesting:



Especially since you could climb up the bell-tower, from where you have really nice views over the city and can get pretty close to the bells (I don't want to be there at the full hour   ) :



http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_100.jpg

There are also views like this, U2 on final for runway 28:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_031.jpg

A quiet corner in the old town of Faro, count the cats:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_029.jpg

You also have good views towards the airport:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_027.jpg

A nice 757 from Icelandair departing, most likely back to Keflavik:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_028.jpg

Fortunately the next day the weather had improved again. A must visit in this area is the Cabo de Sagres and the Cabo de São Vicente, two promontory points which together form the South-Western tip of mainland Europe. There is a big fortress from the 16th century there:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_102.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_035.jpg

The lighthouse at the Cabo de São Vicente:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_036.jpg

These birds have found a nice spot to enjoy the breeze from the sea:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_037.jpg

The shoe rock:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_039.jpg

In case you want to start swimming over the big pond you must have a bratwurst here before:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_040.jpg

Yes, it's the last sausage before America! A couple of German expats had a good business idea here. And of course we had to try a wurst, it tasted great. Only the bread they served wasn't really up to German standards   . You even get a certificate if you eat there:



The west coast of the Algarve in general is much rougher then the South coast with the Atlantic waves hitting the shore with full force. But that means that there are some wonderful bays with nice beaches, far away from the tourist hot spots, only frequented by the surfer crowd and by some old hippies and new-age-people:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_103.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_042.jpg

Just beautiful:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_043.jpg

Our trusty little Peugeot 208:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_044.jpg

The five days of holiday were over way too fast. One last moody picture of “our” village of Pera on our last evening there:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_104.jpg

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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7952 times:

Flight 2 (02.11.2012)
FAO-LIS (TP 1908)
Airbus A319 (CS-TTR)
Seat 11B
scheduled 11:05 – 11:50
actual 11:04 – 11:50
flight-time: 11:13 – 11:46 (33 minutes)

Back to the airport then and as usual let's have a look at the FIDS at first, no problem for our flight. Interesting to see that there are 3 flights to different London airports at the same time:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_050.jpg

Online check-in was only possible for the LIS-FRA leg, but not for the FAO-LIS leg so we had to go to a check-in counter first. Our bags were checked through to Frankfurt and we were handed our boarding passes:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_052.jpg

Off-season shows, not that many people here in the landside area:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_051.jpg

Really quiet airside as well, especially after the departure of the London flights:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_053.jpg

Only some very limited views outside, so let's head to our gate, Porta 53 today for Lisboa:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_055.jpg

Boarding started and we were let into a holding pen from where I finally had a first view on our ride:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_056.jpg

It was CS-TTR, built in 2002 and flying for Air Canada until 2008, before it started service for TAP. Thick blue-grey leather seats on board:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_061.jpg

Our view outside from row 11 towards the tower of FAO:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_060.jpg

Alright, now let's explore the contents of the seat pocket. There was a security card of course, note the registrations on it (wonder if CS-TTR and CS-TTS are somewhat special):



The inflight magazine Up:



And a rather thick shopping on-board magazine:



Boarding completed, load factor was close to 100%:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_062.jpg

The Captain was on the speakers then, but it was so quiet that I couldn't understand one word. Anyway push-back was on time, followed shortly by a take-off from runway 10 towards the east:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_063.jpg

Climbing out over the coast:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_064.jpg

And over the clouds:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_065.jpg

The short flight passed quickly, there was no service at all, after the safety demo the crew was never to be seen again during the flight. Already on approach:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_066.jpg

Views during approach towards runway 21 were quite nice, though not as good as when coming in from the other direction. The Vasco da Gama bridge over the Tejo river:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_068.jpg

Once again, together with the eastern suburbs of Lisbon:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_069.jpg

Touch-down after a flight time of just a little more than half an hour and at the gate shortly thereafter:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_070.jpg


Lisbon airport

Lisbon is one of these airport with the annoying black dots on the windows that makes taking pictures nearly impossible. This was the last view of our ride:



After having something to eat we checked out the gate for our next flight, turned out it be the lucky gate 13:



Another TAP airbus at the adjacent gate bound for Amsterdam:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_073.jpg

It was delayed quite a bit, obviously for some technical reasons, work was going on at the stabilizer:



At least in this part of the terminal the windows were clear and we had good views on the apron. Two easyjet birds are parked in front of the low-cost-terminal:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_074.jpg

A classic A310 from SATA (CS-TGV):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_077.jpg

And an A340 blasting of:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_078.jpg


Flight 3 (02.11.2012)
LIS-FRA (TP 576)
Airbus A319 (CS-TTG)
Seat 17B
scheduled 13:55 – 18:05
actual 14:10 – 17:59
flight-time: 14:20 – 17:46 (2 hours 26 minutes)

Boarding was then called for our flight right on time, however it was bus-boarding and we had to wait quite a long time in the crowded bus before we were finally pulling of towards a parking position quite far out on the apron. CS-TTG would take us to Frankfurt this afternoon:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_079.jpg

The plane was built in 1998 and flying for TAP all the time. It once had a little smell-of-smoke-incident, coincidently also on a LIS-FRA flight.

Once onboard we settled down, with me again on the middle seat. The aircondition was blowing with full steam:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_081.jpg

Seat pitch was ok as well:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_082.jpg

The Captain was on the mike then with a nice welcome, he was apologizing for the short delay but announced that because of the tailwind we would still arrive on time in FRA. Well, about 15 minutes too late we departed for a take-off from runway 21:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_083.jpg

Great views over the city center after departure:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_084.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_085.jpg

The airshow was turned on, however it was quite often interrupted by commercials and the TAP logo:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_086.jpg

Cabin view during cruise, the load factor was again very good, only a few empty seats:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_087.jpg

Not the very best views outside today:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_088.jpg

After a while in flight it was service time. The crew (3 females, 2 black-haired and one red-haired female and one more senior male) were quite friendly. They distributed a snack box with some fruits and a chocolate bar:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_089.jpg

Now let's have a look inside this box, there were two slices of dry bread, one slice of cheese, a little bit of cold cut and exactly one small leave of salad:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_090.jpg

All in all a little disappointing, especially considering that they served a pretty nice breakfast on my much shorter flight from LIS to MAD last year on TAP. But well, at least the fruits were nice (pieces of pear). The drink cart came around and I had one last Portuguese cerveja:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_091.jpg

After the trash got collected one of the flight attendants came to our row again and gave another Twix to my son, a nice touch.

Another welcome-on-board and more information about our flight from the front office then. Route of flight took us from Lisbon over Salamanca and Santander in Spain, then over the Gulf of Biscay towards La Rochelle in France, from there via Paris and Luxembourg direct to Frankfurt. All on flight level 380. Weather in FRA was forecast to be quite bad, with strong winds, rain and only around 10 degrees (just your typical autumn in Germany).

At least during the flight we had a great view over Paris, if you look closely at the bottom part of the picture you can see the Eiffel Tower:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_092.jpg

One last picture of the wing during descent:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/algarve/tr1208_093.jpg

Descent and approach to FRA was quite turbulent then, and we touched down at the new runway 25R after a flight time of about 2 and a half hours, followed by quite some hard braking. After a relatively short taxi-time (at least for FRA) we arrived at a gate at the A pier. And indeed arrival was even a bit earlier than scheduled, so well done here.

My dad picked us up again and after a rather terrible ride (lot's of traffic jams, rainy weather) we arrived back at home and a very nice holiday came to an end.

Conclusion

About the flights, well, first a usual Ryanair flight, cramped full, everything as expected, just a little delay but nothing serious. Our return flights with TAP were quite nice, I was just a little bit disappointed by the service this time, after the good breakfast I got with them last year I have expected a bit more. But well, the crew was friendly, the plane was comfortable and the flights were on time. So not really a reason to complain and I would certainly fly with them again.

We also had a great time in the Algarve, definitely a recommendable holiday region. You have nice beaches, spectacular scenery at the coast and also inland. People are friendly as well, there are nice restaurants and overall just a pleasant and relaxed atmosphere. But I think it was a good idea to go there in the low season. There are a lot of big hotels and holiday resorts at the coast so I guess it can get very crowded in summer.

Alright now, I hope you enjoyed my report and I could bring you a little bit of the holiday atmosphere on your screen. And of course I would be happy if you leave just a short comment here  


CaptainRed


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6816 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

Hi CaptainRed,

very nice report with good pictures from a beautiful region.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
My wife complained since we had to wait a few minutes there with a rather cold wind blowing, but I explained her that this is all part of the Ryanair experience.

Just a matter of time until FR will introduce a "no cold wind" fee.  

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
(oh my, 5 hours on board with FR, that would be too much even for me):

That would be pure torture.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
We bought us a pack of M&Ms (the chocolate stuff, not the miles)

How much did they charge? 5 Euro?

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
First thing I did was to go out to the pool bar and had one of these :

Nice. Was it really strong?

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Yes, it's the last sausage before America! A couple of German expats had a good business idea here. And of course we had to try a wurst, it tasted great. Only the bread they served wasn't really up to German standards . You even get a certificate if you eat there:

Cool idea!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
And an A340 blasting of:

Sorry, a classic A340 cannot "blast".  

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Now let's have a look inside this box, there were two slices of dry bread, one slice of cheese, a little bit of cold cut and exactly one small leave of salad:

Wow, that sandwich looks ridiculous.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

Hi CaptainRed,

Great job! I am glad to see a report on a visit to Algarve and even more glad that you enjoyed my home town of Faro! I understand your fear of going in the Summer and you are indeed right in reckoning that it is full of tourists round that time. But, trust me, it is a tradeoff. The whole of the Algarve just becomes so beautifully lively and cheerful in Summer that it is just so much more especial. Ideally, in my opinion, the best time is late June and/or early July. Hope you choose to visit again one day!

Cheers,

Speedbird741



Boa noite Faro, Air Portugal 257 climbing flight level 340
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1206 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

I find the TAP snack impressive.

We get ZIP here even on a 5 hour flight you have to pay. And that includes flights to the Caribbean.


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7653 times:

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
welcome to a short report about our family holiday to the Algarve last year, hope it brings a little sunshine into our current dull winter weather.

Indeed, I could use some sunshine pictures after spending a day outside in the cold Dutch weather! Nice report, interesting to compare FR with TP and your holiday. I also find it interesting that there was no hot meal served on this flight, LH does on LIS-FRA!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

Aye aye Captain! A very entertaining report about a place I've always wanted to visit. Too bad I didn't take advantage of the cheap fares to Faro from the UK when I lived there. I loved the photos, they make me wanna go there even more.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
After looking around a little I found a reasonable priced flight with TAP from FAO to FRA via LIS and booked that.

For some bizarre reason I've never managed to find a cheap TAP fare to anywhere. I'd love to give them a go but I must be doing something wrong with my chosen destinations and/or dates.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
As usual we had priority, so no need to play the crazy queuing game

That's nice. I've only flown with FR once (back in 2005 or 2006) so I'm not very familiar with what kind of extras they charge now. So for some extra money you can get to board first?

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
And indeed, our bags arrived rather quickly, just hurry up if you need a baggage cart, there might not be enough for everyone :

Wow, that looks pretty organized.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
First thing I did was to go out to the pool bar and had one of these :

Priorities are priorities! How was the local beer??

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Interesting flora as well:

I remember seeing these plants near JSI on Skiathos Island and I was equally intrigued by them. Rather weird looking. Apparently they are some kind of blooming agave.

http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/JCNadal_x/3190280681_3e707d27f6_o_zpsb4c9804a.jpg

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
from where I finally had a first view on our ride:

What a stunning livery! My personal favorite at last as far as Europe is concerned.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
Lisbon is one of these airport with the annoying black dots on the windows that makes taking pictures nearly impossible.

Ah yes, rather annoying especially when you have a point-n-shoot camera and you cannot control the focus manually. I guess the trick to set the camera setting to "landscape" and this should hopefully allow you to focus away from the dots.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
Now let's have a look inside this box, there were two slices of dry bread, one slice of cheese, a little bit of cold cut and exactly one small leave of salad:

Hm, not terribly appetizing but certainly better than nothing!

Glad to see that you and your family had a nice down south. A lovely destination, a nice routing and a very carefree time of the year to get down there.

Stojan



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5171 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7339 times:

Hi, M.,

really nice pictures.
I was also to the Algarve some years ago and it´s indeed a good place to spent some relaxed days,
especially during off season time.
Good to follow also the TAP flights in comparison to my experience in August.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1316 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6895 times:

Hi there - nice report and great to have a little insight into TAP. I'll be travelling with them in a few weeks and know very little about them other than they're Portuguese and been around for a while!


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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1730 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6856 times:
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Hello CR,

Nice report! I've been to this region as well a few years ago, also on FR ex-CRL. Off season it's definitely a recommendable place to go. Good to see you giving TAP another try. They do seem to have rather thick seats in their cabins, definitely comfy I guess. A bit of a disappointment over that lousy sandwich but for the rest indeed quite OK.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
but I explained her that this is all part of the Ryanair experience.

Ha ha, I guess next time she wants you to book a full service carrier. But there's also a chance of bus boarding of course.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Cruising over Spain then and a little later this airport came into view
Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Faro airport seen from downwind towards runway 10:

Excellent views. MAD is such a huge airport.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
In case you want to start swimming over the big pond you must have a bratwurst here before:

Great name for this eating joint. Did you have a bratwurst there?

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
(wonder if CS-TTR and CS-TTS are somewhat special

Perhaps because of a slightly different config in one way or another?

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Lisbon is one of these airport with the annoying black dots on the windows that makes taking pictures nearly impossible.

Comes together in the list with GVA and some others. Looking at the photo makes me dizzy   

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Now let's have a look inside this box, there were two slices of dry bread, one slice of cheese, a little bit of cold cut and exactly one small leave of salad

Looks really terrible, except for the fruits.

Sultanils



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6728 times:

Good to see so many comments already, thanks a lot  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
very nice report with good pictures from a beautiful region.

Hi PH, thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Just a matter of time until FR will introduce a "no cold wind" fee.

Hey, don't give them any ideas   ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
How much did they charge? 5 Euro?

Don't really remember the price, but it was not that expensive, and it was a big package.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Nice. Was it really strong?

No, even though the name of the beer was Super Bock, it has nothing to do with the German Bock beer. It's just a normal lager beer, but actually quite nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Sorry, a classic A340 cannot "blast".

I know, I know, though 'slowly fighting the gravity' just doesn't sound so good   ...

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 3):

Great job! I am glad to see a report on a visit to Algarve and even more glad that you enjoyed my home town of Faro! I understand your fear of going in the Summer and you are indeed right in reckoning that it is full of tourists round that time. But, trust me, it is a tradeoff. The whole of the Algarve just becomes so beautifully lively and cheerful in Summer that it is just so much more especial. Ideally, in my opinion, the best time is late June and/or early July. Hope you choose to visit again one day!

Hi Speedbird, thanks a lot. And yes, I really liked Faro and the whole area, even though with a bit more sunshine in Faro I would have enjoyed it even more. I would certainly like to go back, so maybe then in June, let's see.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
I find the TAP snack impressive.
We get ZIP here even on a 5 hour flight you have to pay. And that includes flights to the Caribbean.

Hi lychesma, yeah, I know about the service with American carriers nowadays. However here in Europe we are still somehow used to get something on most legacy carriers, especially on these longer flights (>2h).

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 5):
Indeed, I could use some sunshine pictures after spending a day outside in the cold Dutch weather! Nice report, interesting to compare FR with TP and your holiday. I also find it interesting that there was no hot meal served on this flight, LH does on LIS-FRA!

Hi Robert, thank you, glad you liked it. And yes, a hot meal would have been nice, but well.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
A very entertaining report about a place I've always wanted to visit. Too bad I didn't take advantage of the cheap fares to Faro from the UK when I lived there.

Hi Stojan, thanks a lot. Well, maybe you have the chance again to visit the Algarve once, it is certainly worth a visit.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
For some bizarre reason I've never managed to find a cheap TAP fare to anywhere.

It seems to be a hit or miss. I was probably just lucky, already the second time I found a decent fare with them.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
So for some extra money you can get to board first?

Yes, exactly. For 5 Euro per Person you can skip the queue and board first. Makes the whole experience much more relaxed. Plus the staff is usually very good in enforcing it. Money well spent I think.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Priorities are priorities! How was the local beer??

The Super Bock was quite good, I liked it more then the 'Sagres' brand.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Rather weird looking. Apparently they are some kind of blooming agave.

Certainly interesting, yes. Nice picture as well btw.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Ah yes, rather annoying especially when you have a point-n-shoot camera and you cannot control the focus manually. I guess the trick to set the camera setting to "landscape" and this should hopefully allow you to focus away from the dots.

I played around a bit with the settings of my camera, but that was the best I could manage.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Hm, not terribly appetizing but certainly better than nothing!

Yep, 'better than nothing' sums it up pretty much   ...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
really nice pictures.
I was also to the Algarve some years ago and it´s indeed a good place to spent some relaxed days,
especially during off season time.
Good to follow also the TAP flights in comparison to my experience in August.

Hi Markus, thank you. Agree with you on the Algarve, definitely a nice region. And yeah, I remember your report.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 8):
Hi there - nice report and great to have a little insight into TAP. I'll be travelling with them in a few weeks and know very little about them other than they're Portuguese and been around for a while!

Hi James, thanks, and about TAP, they are a rather decent airline. Hope you will enjoy your flights as well with them.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Nice report! I've been to this region as well a few years ago, also on FR ex-CRL.

Hi Nils, thank you.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Ha ha, I guess next time she wants you to book a full service carrier. But there's also a chance of bus boarding of course.

Well, we had a rather terrible bus boarding in LIS on this trip, with a long wait in a very crowded bus. So in the end I guess even my wife prefers standing a little in the fresh air rather than in a full bus   ...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Great name for this eating joint. Did you have a bratwurst there?

Of course we had a bratwurst there. That's what that certificate was for.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Perhaps because of a slightly different config in one way or another?

Yeah, I just checked and indeed these two planes are the latest in TAP's fleet, both were flying with AC before, so it might indeed have a different config. It wasn't apparent though.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Looks really terrible, except for the fruits.

Yes, the fruits and the chocolate were much better than this so-called sandwich.


CaptainRed


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2842 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6682 times:

Glad to see you had a good experience (non-stressful!) with FR. -ENP is a bird I haven´t flown yet. Algarve is a beautiful part, those cliffs & beaches. I went there in 2007 on Futura Airlines    but I´m sure I was in a less desirable part, on a "young person´s holiday" in Praia da Rocha...it was a nice touch indeed of the TP cc to give your son a Twix, he must be very well behaved!   I also think it´s funny to fly from FAO to LIS

Thanks for sharing  



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6513 times:

Morning Captain,

Another very enjoyable report of yours, thank you. I've never been to the Algrave so found your pics very interesting, love the rugged coastline.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
welcome to a short report about our family holiday to the Algarve last year, hope it brings a little sunshine into our current dull winter weather.

Oh yes, this is sorely needed!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
And since I couldn't convince my wife to travel only with carry-on this time we didn't have a choice than to join the long queue

Us women don't do hand luggage for stays longer than 1 night  
Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
No chance to get a window seat when my son flies with me ).

Glad to hear he already shares your appreciation of window views.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
We bought us a pack of M&Ms (the chocolate stuff, not the miles) to have something to nibble during the flight.

  

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Cruising over Spain then and a little later this airport came into view:

MAD looks quite odd from the air! Good shot you got of FAO on approach too.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
There are also views like this, U2 on final for runway 28:

Well, sightseeing & plane spotting, the best combination.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
In case you want to start swimming over the big pond you must have a bratwurst here before:

Nice idea. Although I would think swimming the pond after eating a Bratwurst may not be the best plan of action!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
The short flight passed quickly, there was no service at all, after the safety demo the crew was never to be seen again during the flight.

I find this kind of behaviour bad, the crew should be about even if there is no meal service.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Now let's have a look inside this box, there were two slices of dry bread, one slice of cheese, a little bit of cold cut and exactly one small leave of salad:

Errgh. What a disgusting looking sandwich.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 11):
Glad to see you had a good experience (non-stressful!) with FR

Hi aerdingus, thanks for your reply.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 11):
Algarve is a beautiful part, those cliffs & beaches. I went there in 2007 on Futura Airlines

Indeed, agree with you on the Algarve, sure beautiful. For sure interesting to fly there with Futura, sad thing that there are no more, never had an opportunity to fly with them.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 11):
it was a nice touch indeed of the TP cc to give your son a Twix, he must be very well behaved!

Of course, he's my son  ...

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 11):
I also think it´s funny to fly from FAO to LIS!

Yeah, just a short hop, but fun indeed.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Another very enjoyable report of yours, thank you.

Guten Morgen Hannah, thanks a lot.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Us women don't do hand luggage for stays longer than 1 night

I know. Actually the first question my wife asked after I told her that I booked our flights was how many baggage allowance do we have   ...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Well, sightseeing & plane spotting, the best combination.

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Nice idea. Although I would think swimming the pond after eating a Bratwurst may not be the best plan of action!

Yeah, for that distance you would need at least two I guess   ...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
I find this kind of behaviour bad, the crew should be about even if there is no meal service.

Yes, indeed, not nice. But on the other hand what should they do with no service, no BOB, no rubbish to collect, there is simply nothing to do during the flight.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Errgh. What a disgusting looking sandwich.

Yep, doesn't look very appetizing. But well, as already said, still better than nothing.

CaptainRed


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Hola Captain

Great trip report, thanks for sharing! I've been to FAO back in 2005 and 2006 and really liked the area

TAP provided me good service as well in 2011, just the tight seatpitch was a big bother.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
A classic A310 from SATA (CS-TGV):

Flew that one from PDL to LIS in 2011


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months ago) and read 4937 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
Great trip report, thanks for sharing! I've been to FAO back in 2005 and 2006 and really liked the area

Hi Marc, thanks a lot for your reply, and good to know that you enjoyed the Algarve as well.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
TAP provided me good service as well in 2011, just the tight seatpitch was a big bother.

Hmm, I didn't find the seatpitch too bad, not too generous, but ok. But then again after flying FR I guess everything feels ok.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
Flew that one from PDL to LIS in 2011

Yeah, I thought about you when I saw that plane, but I wasn't aware that you were on exactly this one.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Nice report CaptainRed. I wonder why FR aren't continueing the flights to FAO for thr winter if they are running full? Nice to get a bit of pre-winter sun!


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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

Bom dia Captain,

It’s always a joy to read the story about your family holiday. This time in the Algarve, a region I yet have to visit.  


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
I hope it brings a little sunshine into our current dull winter weather.

The weather forecast looks promising there. Sunny at 18 Centigrade.  


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
It was a complete mess in the check-in hall, oh dear, looks like we weren't the only ones to take advantage of this school holiday week  Wow!

I don’t blame them for that.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
only-once-in-a-year-flying tourists.

I love this expression!  


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
My wife complained since we had to wait a few minutes there with a rather cold wind blowing, but I explained her that this is all part of the Ryanair experience.

Good on you to share your wisdom as a frequent flyer!   


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
(No chance to get a window seat when my son flies with me    ).

Nevertheless, you managed to take great shots out of the window. Well done!  


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Faro airport seen from downwind towards runway 10:

Great overview photo! Specially for you by FR!   


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
there might not be enough for everyone    :

Oh no! They were not enough yet for a full FR 738. What would happen after arrival of a fully loaded A380?  Wow!


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
First thing I did was to go out to the pool bar and had one of these    :

The authentic taste!   


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
The next days we explored the coast of the Algarve with its beautiful beaches and sometimes spectacular rock formations:

Amazing scenery!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
(I don't want to be there at the full hour  &nbsp 

Not even with noise cancelling headset on? 


Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
count the cats:

Six!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
There is a big fortress from the 16th century there:

Awesome! I just hope that the canon could have been better maintained. It looked so rusty.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
In case you want to start swimming over the big pond you must have a bratwurst here before:
Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
You even get a certificate if you eat there:

That’s something different to S-Bahn Currywurst, but yet attractive!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
Interesting to see that there are 3 flights to different London airports at the same time:

Take a pick!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
(wonder if CS-TTR and CS-TTS are somewhat special)

Both from Air Canada perhaps?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
there was no service at all

Not even a water run?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
Lisbon is one of these airport with the annoying black dots on the windows that makes taking pictures nearly impossible

Shame! What about photography on board, on the tarmac and so on? Did you have any problem with it?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 1):
I had one last Portuguese cerveja:

A surely appropriate end to your holiday.  



Muito obrigado! Thanks again for sharing.

Suryo  



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27033 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

Hey very nice report  

Lovely photos from the Algarve and nice to read a TAP report.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4410 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Nice report CaptainRed. I wonder why FR aren't continueing the flights to FAO for thr winter if they are running full? Nice to get a bit of pre-winter sun!

Hi Gabriel, thanks a lot. I think that particular flight was full because of the school holiday this week. Otherwise during the winter there wouldn't be that much demand on this route. FR are discontinuing the other holiday destinations from FKB like Malaga, Calgiari and so on during the winter as well.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
It’s always a joy to read the story about your family holiday. This time in the Algarve, a region I yet have to visit.

Hi Suryo, thank you. And Algarve is certainly worth a visit, I am sure you would like it as well.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Great overview photo! Specially for you by FR!

That was indeed a great view.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
The authentic taste!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Six!

Actually 7   . There is one hiding under the car, you can only see its tail.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Awesome! I just hope that the canon could have been better maintained. It looked so rusty.

Well, these cannons are also pretty old (ca. 1800), and with the aggressive air from the saltwater they actually look still good I think.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Both from Air Canada perhaps?

Indeed, they were both flying for Air Canade before.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Take a pick!

I think Southend would be the most interesting.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Not even a water run?

Nope, absolutely nothing, not even a glass of water.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Shame! What about photography on board, on the tarmac and so on? Did you have any problem with it?

Had no problem at all with taking pictures there. Even on the tarmac it was ok.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Muito obrigado! Thanks again for sharing.

You are very welcome   ...

Quoting OA260 (Reply 18):
Hey very nice report

Lovely photos from the Algarve and nice to read a TAP report.

Hey Philip, thanks a lot, glad you liked my report.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3007 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4212 times:

Nicely done CaptainRed, good report!
FR same as ever...
The Algarve looks very nice to visit, you sure had a good deal on a pleasant looking apartment in a quiet area. How old is your child if I may ask? Was there enough to keep them entertained?
And finally, TP as well did the job. Shame the sandwich was quite bland, on my only TP flight to date the sandwich was hot beef. Still only a minor detracting point.
Thanks
signol



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 690 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
Nicely done CaptainRed, good report!

Hi signol, thanks a lot for your reply.

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
The Algarve looks very nice to visit, you sure had a good deal on a pleasant looking apartment in a quiet area. How old is your child if I may ask? Was there enough to keep them entertained?

That holiday resort where we had this apartment is for sure recommendable, as the whole of the Algarve as well. My son is 8 in the meantime, and it was no problem to keep him entertained. Beaches, a little climbing through the rocks, old castles. Plus there are also water parks and zoos and other things like that in the area, which might be something for children, although we didn't go to this places, since there were so many other interesting things to do.

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
And finally, TP as well did the job. Shame the sandwich was quite bland, on my only TP flight to date the sandwich was hot beef.

Yes, true, that sandwich wasn't very good, but overall TP was quite good. I was hoping to get a warm snack as well on a flight of this length, but seems that they have also cut down in that regard.

CaptainRed


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