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Saying Goodbye To Hochelaga: YUL-LHR With AC  
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13578 times:

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Hi all, welcome to the last instalment of my Canada series of reports.

The other instalments can be found at:

Dashing To Toronto City (YTZ) With Porter (by palmjet Jan 6 2013 in Trip Reports)
A Daytrip With Pascan Aviation: King Air, AT4, J32 (by palmjet Dec 31 2012 in Trip Reports)
Air Creebec Dash 8 Multistop: Montreal-Chisasibi (by palmjet Dec 15 2012 in Trip Reports)
In The East With WestJet: St John's To Montreal (by palmjet Nov 7 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Twotter Or Not? Air Labrador & Air Canada (by palmjet Oct 31 2012 in Trip Reports)
Goose'n'Gander: To Goose Bay With AC Express (by palmjet Oct 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
Terranova Transatlantic: AC A319 To St John's (by palmjet Oct 7 2012 in Trip Reports)

From my perspective, this last flight home was the least interesting of all the flights I did in Canada, and it was also the most depressing as it signalled the end of a great two week holiday. In the previous two weeks, I’d managed to tick off St John’s from my list of must visit cities, set foot in Labrador, fly into a number of airports in Quebec and sample some interesting aircraft types, including my favourite Dash 8. I had also visited Montreal for the first time so I was able to add another of Canada’s large cities to my log along with Toronto and Vancouver. Of course, I had failed in my quest to fly the Twotter in Canada, but on the whole, the flying parts of the trip had been a success.

Now it was time to return home to London, and go back to work. But before that, here is the report about the return Air Canada A330-300 flight from Montreal to London Heathrow.

MONTREAL FINALE

My last couple of days are spent on the ground in Montreal.

I came across this interesting and incomplete map of Australia on one of my walks. Clearly Tasmania is incognito according to this Montreal travel agency. Good thing I’m not from Tasmania! Seeing this also reminded just how far Montreal is from Sydney. I felt tired and jetlagged just imagining how long that flight would be. I was glad that I was only heading back to London which, in comparison, is a very short flight. It always amuses me to hear people talking about transatlantic flights as “long haul flights”. Try flying from Europe to Oceania regularly and your definition of longhaul soon changes!

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I also did a fair amount of walking, which included a couple of great walks up to the top of Mont Royal. I went in the day time to get some exercise as the pathway up to the top is very popular with joggers, walkers and tourists alike. It’s also gorgeously green at this time of year.

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At the top is the Chalet du Mont Royal, inaugurated in 1932.

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And on my last night in Canada, I headed up there at sunset to get one last glimpse of this place that was once called Hochelaga, before the arrival of Europeans.

The views from here at night are stunning on clear nights like this Friday evening. I get to the lookout just as the sun is going down.

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One of my favourite pictures from that evening.

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I say good bye to my hotel room the following afternoon, after doing a bit of last minute shopping in the morning. It was very comfortable and I enjoyed my stay very much.

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And again, I find myself at Air Canada’s check in desks at YUL. I had already pre-reserved my window “hublot” seat in the rear cabin of the A330 and got to the front of the short queue where the friendly agent processed me and tagged my bag to LHR. She then looked at her watch and told me that I was too early and that she could not accept the bag yet. I needed to come back in 45 minutes time but she told me not to line up again, and just to use the Business Class line and explain that my bag had already been tagged but that I had arrived too early. Bugger but at least no lining up again for me.

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Like many airports, there aren’t a great deal of seats for passengers landside but I managed to find somewhere to plonk down where I commenced a spot of people watching while pretending to be reading. Needless to say it was very interesting. An Air Algerie flight was due to depart in a few hours and passengers for that flight back to Algiers were starting to gather in the terminal.

The time ticks by and I am finally able to get rid of my bag – not before being quizzed rather passionately by another ground agent who was wondering why I was trying to check my Y class bag in the J class line. I explained to her and she let me through, although I don’t think she was too happy about it. Tough luck.

Now bag-free, I head through security and into the international part of the terminal complex – my first time here as all other flights out of YUL were domestic.

It’s pretty busy on this Saturday afternoon but lots of floor to ceiling glass means it’s not too cramped or dingy. I decide to go for a snack but not before seeing this whale at the gate, getting ready to swallow some 300+ passengers for Paris CDG.

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Right next to it is an Air France B777-300ER. Clearly you cannot have enough flights to Paris from here. This flight would actually be leaving before the A380.

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Completing the Euro presence this afternoon is a Swiss A330-300 and KLM MD11. Especially nice to see the MD11 close up and personal, given that they are all very quickly leaving KLM’s fleet.

This one’s dedicated to Hannah/infodesk!

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Not to be outdone, this Air Canada B777-300ER is heading to Paris as well. Interesting that I was unable to find any flights from Montreal direct to Asia. Everything vaguely longhaul only seems to go to Europe.

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Also soon to be on the move is the elusive Air St Pierre ATR42 which I finally get to see. Maybe next time I will try to make a booking with them.

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GOING HOME

September 2012

Montreal (YUL) – London Heathrow (LHR)
Air Canada AC864
A330-300 C-GFAF (f/n 931)
Seat: 37K

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I decide to head into one of the few lounges that exists airside at the international concourse at YUL courtesy of Priority Pass membership.

This is the VIP lounge offered by Servisair and I am not expecting much.

However, I am pleasantly surprised by the layout and offerings, and the general ambience. The lounge is not too busy and the food and beverage options are of an acceptable standard.

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I plonk myself down with a snack and the newspaper.

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Before coming across Mr Porter again, doing a dance!

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I spend an hour or so in the lounge before heading out to see whether I can get a picture of my A330 at the gate before it starts to get too dark. Thankfully, the aircraft for my short hop across the Atlantic is being readied when I get there. Some rain has fallen in the time I have been in the lounge. It’s looking quite bleak outside now.

This is C-GFAF, one of the 8 A330s in Air Canada’s fleet and which was delivered new to Air Canada in January 2000. The aircraft looks to be in need of a repaint on one side at least. The colours have faded quite considerably.

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Gate gourmet? Sounds a lot nicer than what’s actually being served I bet... unless you’re in F or J!

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The gate area gets pretty busy by the time the boarding call is made and when I checked online, the flight was showing as pretty busy, if not full. The flight is called and I eventually make my way to my seat, in the aft cabin, just behind the emergency door. Cabin condition looks pretty good, considering the aircraft’s age – I remember when Air Canada first got their A330s in 1999 and seeing their first one take off over the top of me near LHR in November that year.

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Legroom is also pretty good. Marginally better than the AC A319 that brought me to Canada. I brought a bottle of water with me from the lounge.

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Yes, it’s an A330-300.



EnRoute is switched on from the moment of boarding so the map is available right from the outset. Yay.

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The cabin around me slowly fills up as people get settled. I have a seat neighbour but she is a very small Chinese lady who takes up barely any space. Thankfully and perhaps for the only time in history, I am not inflicted with “screaming child in close proximity” condition that WideBodyRoga has been diagnosed with!

The crew in this part of the cabin are two very friendly middle aged ladies and are helping a couple of passengers who are trying to re-arrange to sit together. One of the flight attendants is particularly jovial and shares a joke or two with the passengers which engages the passenger sitting in the next seat. Lots of laughter ensues and they then retreat to the back of the cabin to assist other passengers and secure the cabin. A very nice first impression for this A330 flight. In fact, this flight turns out to be the friendliest of the Air Canada flights I took – other than the B1900Ds and the Dash 8-100 flights.

As expected all announcements are made in French and English.

We also get a nice welcome from the cockpit crew this time with some flying information. Expected flying time to London is a short 6 or so hours. Barely enough time to stretch out or relax and not much time for sleep either.

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Departure is more or less on time, by the time the wheels leave the ground. The weather has deteriorated though so not only is it dark, my window is covered with water droplets. I am unable to get any pictures of our departure. It’s quite powerful and those two RR engines are soon powering us up into the sky. I say a quiet good bye to Canada as the lights of Montreal quickly fade away and we start tracking north easterly for London.

Some Quebec cities I’ve now flown into and out of appearing on the map!

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Less than an hour after takeoff, the dinner service begins, and it’s a pleasant and efficient experience. The crew move through quickly in order to maximise the time that passengers might want to rest. Dinner consists of a beef stroganoff thing with pasta, some salad, bread, chocolate cake, and wine is also offered. The main meal is hot, but largely tasteless. I wouldn’t regard Air Canada as being on the top of culinary tables when it comes to transatlantic food in Y – then again, I can’t really think of any European or North American transatlantic carrier offering food of an amazing quality in Y in the past few years. I had an excellent meal on Virgin Atlantic to MCO but that was back in 1999 when the world was a very different place. Despite all the cuts the airlines have had to make, some people’s expectations about the quality of food in Y on TATL flights and whether they were offered a “proper” salad, main course or dessert seem to remain disproportionately high.

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By the time dinner is finished and cleaned up, we’re over Newfoundland and I am wishing I was still down there in St John’s rather than up here at 38,000ft heading back to London.

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I don’t really feel like watching anything on En:Route so spend most of the flight dozing or reading. I manage a short nap-ette before waking up somewhere not too far from the Irish coast. It’s of course still pitch black outside. I have that groggy and tired feeling which stays with me, even after the cabin lights are turned on and the crew start preparing to serve a pre-landing snack. Prior to that, a water and juice run was done for those who are awake. It would be hard pressed to call it anything else, and certainly not “breakfast”. The muffin is fresh however and the tea is passable. To be honest, I am not that hungry – having only eaten a couple of hours prior, and my body clock is telling me it’s around 2am!

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This “breakfast” is almost identical to the one I received on BA in Y last year on an overnight JFKLHR flight.

Getting closer to the UK

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We are cruising at 40,000ft before we eventually start out descent into London.

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I love the way US airlines always seem to talk about descending into the London area rather than just saying “London” or “Los Angeles”. Is it because they like adding extra words when they aren’t required or are they worried that the aircraft may at the last minute be diverted to another airport in the Los Angeles area other than the one they are scheduled to fly into? Who knows.

Of course, when we get to the UK mainland, there are lots of clouds. That figures. It’s starting to get light outside though so I am able to peer out at the sexy wing of the A330 with greater clarity than on departure.

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A few gentle turns as we approach London.

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Being London Heathrow as our final destination, it is not surprising to feel that we start doing a few holding turns. Clearly it means things are busy down there. The cockpit crew make a morning announcement and let us know that we’re going to have to circle for a bit due to congestion. Typical. However, on the positive side, it means we get some amazing views of the sunrise outside not once, or twice, but three times!

Good morning United Kingdom

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The map confirms our little air-detour as we hold over the London area. There’s Brighton – or as it’s sometimes known “London-by-Sea”!

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Soon, parts of the Thames that I recognise come into view

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London City Airport is on the left hand side with its runway running parallel to the Thames

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And Canary Wharf nearby



The Thames looks pretty quiet and still in the early morning

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Our path takes us right over central London which gives me a great view of the City and surrounds

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All the usual tourist sights are then featured


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A smooth touchdown follows.

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We don’t have a long taxi to our gate, and before long, we’re pulling into T3, being greeted by the usual flotilla of AA jets that seem to always be at LHR these days. Hopefully we’ll see an AA aircraft in the new scheme (launched this week) in the not too distant future at LHR.

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We pass the Queen of the Skies at her gate before arriving at ours –one of the BA longhauls still operating from T3. I suspect this could have been one of the early morning arrivals from SYD.

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And back to where it all pretty much started two weeks before.

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CANADA REFLECTIONS

The two weeks I spent in Canada consisted of a lot of flying. Having said that, I was doing my own thing and there were a number of flights and airlines I wanted to try out – it’s not like I get to Canada every year and it’s a place I enjoyed visiting back in 2003. I needed to try and balance sightseeing with flights, but on reflection, I think the flights won out. I could never have done this trip with anyone who didn’t like flying and had I gone on a “normal” holiday, the flights would have been mostly direct. Now where’s the fun in that? Ultimately my goal was to visit two places – Newfoundland and Montreal, and the rest of the trip and the flights were arranged around that.

Missing the Twin Otter out of Goose Bay was a real disappointment. Sometimes, mother nature wins. There’s always next time.

In terms of flights, highlights for me were the Pascan Beech King Air 100 sectors – a type and airline which was extremely rare for me. I also enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere and friendliness of this airline. They seem to have a great operation out of Montreal St Hubert.

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I also enjoyed the Air Canada B1900D flights within Newfoundland and Labrador – again very friendly and relaxed, and some amazing views of the landscape down below.

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Air Canada was a mixed bag. Some flights were better than others, although all of them were above average, when compared with other North American carriers I have flown with. The last sector from YULLHR was perhaps the friendliest of all the mainline Air Canada sectors, and the crew on that flight should be recognised for their great job.

On the other hand, the two airlines which really stood out were Porter and WestJet. Both offered a high standard of service and all of the crews operating my flights were exceptionally welcoming and friendly. I would definitely fly with them again.

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Air Creebec was an interesting experience. Comparing this Dash 8 milk run with the other 2 Dash 8 multistops I have done in Australia and Norway, I’d have to rate this as # 3 of 3. The flights were generally on time, the aircraft was clean and ground service was relaxed and generally friendly. However, I wasn’t overly impressed with the lack of warmth onboard and the absolutely no contact from the cockpit crew at all at any time of the day. I guess everyone has a bad day and each airline has its own procedures. However, it’s the little things that count. I would have rather no food served onboard but a higher standard of service. A drink served with a smile? A safety demonstration delivered with a bit of energy? In any case, Air Creebec provide an essential service for the communities they serve and I had a great day flying to Chisisabi.

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I really enjoyed St John’s – one of the friendliest and most relaxed places I’ve visited.

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Montreal was also great in its own right – unique. Not French, not North American – but simply “Montreal”.

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Thanks for reading and your comments on the other Canada reports have been very much appreciated.

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32 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineplaniac787 From India, joined May 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13135 times:

Good trip report!
Lovely photos of montreal city!
Also Ac is a good carrier but it s highly inconsistent from the reports one finds here.Its really hit and miss with them
And wow at the number of flights to Paris..
I feel AC has much more potential than what it is..
Hopefully they become a bit more consistent

Cheers

Pradat



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8467 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12962 times:
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Hi James,

Great read, lovely pictures too, especially like evening views from the Hochelaga, very nice!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
this last flight home was the least interesting of all the flights I did in Canada, and it was also the most depressing as it signalled the end of a great two week holiday

- I know exactly what you mean, many years back I shed a few tear or two as the wheels left the ground @ MIA bound for LHR, so sad to leave.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I find myself at Air Canada’s check in desks at YUL. I had already pre-reserved my window “hublot” seat in the rear cabin of the A330 and got to the front of the short queue where the friendly agent processed me and tagged my bag to LHR. She then looked at her watch and told me that I was too early and that she could not accept the bag yet. I needed to come back in 45 minutes time but she told me not to line up again, and just to use the Business Class line and explain that my bag had already been tagged but that I had arrived too early. Bugger but at least no lining up again for me.

- Nice touch from the ground crew there.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Less than an hour after takeoff, the dinner service begins, and it’s a pleasant and efficient experience. The crew move through quickly in order to maximise the time that passengers might want to rest. Dinner consists of a beef stroganoff thing with pasta, some salad, bread, chocolate cake, and wine is also offered. The main meal is hot, but largely tasteless

- Not bad presentation and a perfectly adequate meal for this short flight.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Despite all the cuts the airlines have had to make, some people’s expectations about the quality of food in Y on TATL flights and whether they were offered a “proper” salad, main course or dessert seem to remain disproportionately high.

- The trouble is many of us still remember the good old days when Y had great meals, we seem to forget ticket prices have barely risen in real terms in 20 years yet everything else keeps going up.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This “breakfast” is almost identical to the one I received on BA in Y last year on an overnight JFKLHR flight.

- Again totally adequate for such a short flight, heck, you only ate a few hours ago  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
before long, we’re pulling into T3, being greeted by the usual flotilla of AA jets that seem to always be at LHR these days. Hopefully we’ll see an AA aircraft in the new scheme (launched this week) in the not too distant future at LHR.

- I hope not, what a ghastly new scheme they have created, I doubt this will last as long as the previous livery did!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12813 times:

Hi planiac787

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Good trip report!
Lovely photos of montreal city!
Also Ac is a good carrier but it s highly inconsistent from the reports one finds here.Its really hit and miss with them
And wow at the number of flights to Paris..
I feel AC has much more potential than what it is..
Hopefully they become a bit more consistent

Thanks for your comments. Yes, AC seems to be inconsistent. I don't think that's unique to AC though - most large airlines are pretty inconsistent these days with their service delivery. The same goes for any large corporate in most industries. Having said that, I'd certainly be happy to fly with AC transatlantic. Glad you enjoyed the report and the pics of Montreal.

Hi Mark

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Great read, lovely pictures too, especially like evening views from the Hochelaga, very nice!

Thanks! The views from the top of Mt Royal are great if the weather is clear. Far from being grey, I found Montreal had lots of colour, and at night, from that location, it sparkled!

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I know exactly what you mean, many years back I shed a few tear or two as the wheels left the ground @ MIA bound for LHR, so sad to leave.

It's a bad feeling - but before long, you end up planning another trip.... so the depression doesnt last!  
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Not bad presentation and a perfectly adequate meal for this short flight.

Yep no complaints about portions considering flight time was short. The main meal was completely tasteless unfortunately.

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The trouble is many of us still remember the good old days when Y had great meals, we seem to forget ticket prices have barely risen in real terms in 20 years yet everything else keeps going up.

Yes, agreed. Me too. I remember those days well too. I think some people still live in a timelapse bubble though and expect things to be the way they were 20 years ago. Those days at not going to be repeated any time soon unfortunately. I found the Y service and offers on AC to be fine.

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Again totally adequate for such a short flight, heck, you only ate a few hours ago

Agreed - it's only about 3 am local time when they serve this and I am usually not even vaguely hungry.

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I hope not, what a ghastly new scheme they have created, I doubt this will last as long as the previous livery did!

Ha! so you fall into the "hate it" category then? Personally, I love it !   Thanks again Mark for your comments.



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12621 times:

A very nice conclusion to your Canadian saga palmjet (after all those prop flights you can now start re-using your old name). AC service seemed pretty decent for this "short" TATL crossing.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
where I commenced a spot of people watching while pretending to be reading.

Applying the art of "lookering" on Canadian soil? Why not, I guess.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Also soon to be on the move is the elusive Air St Pierre ATR42 which I finally get to see. Maybe next time I will try to make a booking with them.

Nice catch! How fortunate that you got to see it.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
EnRoute is switched on from the moment of boarding so the map is available right from the outset. Yay.

I hate it when airlines DON'T do that. Well done, AC.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The cabin around me slowly fills up as people get settled. I have a seat neighbour but she is a very small Chinese lady who takes up barely any space. Thankfully and perhaps for the only time in history, I am not inflicted with “screaming child in close proximity” condition that WideBodyRoga has been diagnosed with!

Yeah, I think tiny old ladies are the optimal isle seatmate to have on TATLs. They take up hardly any space and they don't tend to travel with any kids!

Thanks for these lovely series of reports. I'm glad that you had such a good time in Canada and I'm sorry again about the missed opportunity to fly the Twotter. Your reports re-ignited my desire to visit Canada at some point!

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12558 times:

Hello WBR!

Quote:
A very nice conclusion to your Canadian saga palmjet (after all those prop flights you can now start re-using your old name). AC service seemed pretty decent for this "short" TATL crossing.

Thanks! Glad I have now earned my palmjet wings back! I've really enjoyed doing these reports- it's been a lot of fun, although they do take a lot of time.

Quote:
Applying the art of "lookering" on Canadian soil? Why not, I guess.

I am now an expert, and I have learnt from the best!

Quote:
Nice catch! How fortunate that you got to see it.

Quite lucky and yes, glad I at least saw the ATR42. It would have been good to fly with them but not on this trip sadly.

Quote:
Yeah, I think tiny old ladies are the optimal isle seatmate to have on TATLs. They take up hardly any space and they don't tend to travel with any kids!

Exactly!

Quote:
Thanks for these lovely series of reports. I'm glad that you had such a good time in Canada and I'm sorry again about the missed opportunity to fly the Twotter. Your reports re-ignited my desire to visit Canada at some point!

Pleasure - hope you get back to Canada soon. Perhaps we can arrange to do the Twotter flight?!



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11927 times:

Great report on your last part of the Canada holiday. And some stunning pictures too: from the Montreal tower, but also that hold and approach into LHR is stunning! Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11743 times:

Hi roberts87

Quote:
Great report on your last part of the Canada holiday. And some stunning pictures too: from the Montreal tower, but also that hold and approach into LHR is stunning! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for your comments. Glad you liked the Montreal pics too and the LHR approach. It can be great if you're on the correct side of the aircraft and the air is cloud free!



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1646 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11626 times:
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Hi palmjet,

With great interest and pleasure have I devoured your Canada series. All good things come to an end unfortunately... Air Canada got you home safe and sound as they say but the experience wasn't overwhelming. And maybe there was no need to since you had quite some thrilling flight experiences in the 2 weeks prior  

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I explained to her and she let me through, although I don’t think she was too happy about it. Tough luck.

Maybe they should organise this better? How long were you there prior? I would say 3h would do to get rid of your bag, no?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Thankfully and perhaps for the only time in history, I am not inflicted with “screaming child in close proximity” condition that WideBodyRoga has been diagnosed with!

And no case of 'swollen testicle syndrome' either lol!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Some Quebec cities I’ve now flown into and out of appearing on the map!

Ha, this area will for sure have no more secrets for you?

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11388 times:

Hi Nils

Quote:
With great interest and pleasure have I devoured your Canada series. All good things come to an end unfortunately... Air Canada got you home safe and sound as they say but the experience wasn't overwhelming. And maybe there was no need to since you had quite some thrilling flight experiences in the 2 weeks prior

Thank you for posting your comments - really appreciated. Glad you enjoyed the Canada series. I know - the 2 weeks went very quickly, as most holidays do. I wish work would go that quickly.....

Quote:
Maybe they should organise this better? How long were you there prior? I would say 3h would do to get rid of your bag, no?

I was there just under 4 hours earlier. Yes, at T-3 hrs, I got rid of my bag.

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And no case of 'swollen testicle syndrome' either lol!

No! That's right.

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Ha, this area will for sure have no more secrets for you?

Ha! I am sure there are still a few more... I am sure Pascan could take me there...

Thanks again -Palmjet



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11202 times:
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Great photos, Palmjet!

It looks like you had a great trip - love the photos from Montreal and of your flight back!

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineallrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 1975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11103 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Great series which I am sorry to see coming to an end. That said, those morning shots of London brought back a few memories. Where to next? I cannot wait!



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1237 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10791 times:

Hey there PJ - good to finally read the conclusion of your Canadian adventure. As usual great pictures. Montreal still remains somewhere I want to visit. Maybe I'll actually get there one day when other places stop cropping up!

Looking forward to your next report too - from the same aircraft I flew on just a few days earlier if I remember correctly.



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10618 times:

Very nice final part James! AC "longhual" looks quite good.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of my favourite pictures from that evening.

Great photo

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This is the VIP lounge offered by Servisair and I am not expecting much.

I think Servisair have spent quite some time updating their terribly boring lounges to something a bit more cutting edge, such as those operated by airlines. I'm flying out of BHX in a few weeks, and the "Aspire by Servisair" lounge looks great. I hope the LHR T1 loune i'll be using before that is less grubby than I remember it to be.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

Less than an hour after takeoff, the dinner service begins, and it’s a pleasant and efficient experience.

Look ok

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Good morning United Kingdom

Great shots!



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1145 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 10530 times:

At least the AC salads are tasty unlike the US and Swiss carriers who serve "lettuce."

Amazing that AC still serve a cake instead of the chocolate brownies on SWISS, Aer Lingus and all US carriers.


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4098 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10441 times:

Really good report, nice photography. I enjoyed your whole Canadian trip series. I hope you can come out west sometime. I find that most airline food ghastly at best, and it doesn't seem to matter which class you fly. It was a shame that you only had two weeks in Canada. Such a huge country and so little time. Wonderful report, I really like your pictures of Montreal.


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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10394 times:

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 1):
Also Ac is a good carrier but it s highly inconsistent from the reports one finds here.Its really hit and miss with them

I've flown 4 times on AC in the past 3 years, domestic, trans-border (to and from the US) and international (YYZ-LHR).....all the flights were consistently good and I had no reason to complain about anything (inspite of being an a.nutter ).....


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10230 times:

Hi Matthew

Quote:
It looks like you had a great trip - love the photos from Montreal and of your flight back!

Thanks! I really enjoyed my two weeks away. Of course, I would have liked it to have been longer! Glad you liked the pics of Montreal too.

Hi allrite

Quote:
Great series which I am sorry to see coming to an end. That said, those morning shots of London brought back a few memories. Where to next? I cannot wait!

Thanks for your comments. Yes, that's it. No more from me on Canada for a while. Yes, I recall your flights into LHR a couple of years back. It can be a great approach when the weather is clear (unlike today where it's low fog and ice!) I am planning to be back in Australia in March so hopefully another trip report after then. Also trying to get an Aussie domestic flight in somewhere too!

Hi James

Quote:
Hey there PJ - good to finally read the conclusion of your Canadian adventure. As usual great pictures. Montreal still remains somewhere I want to visit. Maybe I'll actually get there one day when other places stop cropping up!

Looking forward to your next report too - from the same aircraft I flew on just a few days earlier if I remember correctly.

Hi ! Thanks for your comments - I know Montreal remains on your list - hopefully you'll get a chance to include it in your plans but I recall that you've got lots of flights coming up in 2013!? Yes, it was the same aircraft that took me to DEL as your JFK flight methinks.

Hi Gab

Quote:
I think Servisair have spent quite some time updating their terribly boring lounges to something a bit more cutting edge, such as those operated by airlines. I'm flying out of BHX in a few weeks, and the "Aspire by Servisair" lounge looks great. I hope the LHR T1 loune i'll be using before that is less grubby than I remember it to be.

Completely agree - I was quite surprised at the standard of the lounge. I remember going into some of their operated lounges 5 - 6 years ago and they were pretty awful. There was one at LGW which was particularly nasty   Look forward to hearing about the BHX one.

Quote:
Great shots!

Thanks! Look forward to catching up again soon - perhaps when the snow all melts and it's safe to walk on the pavements again!!?

Hi brilondon

Quote:
Really good report, nice photography. I enjoyed your whole Canadian trip series. I hope you can come out west sometime. I find that most airline food ghastly at best, and it doesn't seem to matter which class you fly. It was a shame that you only had two weeks in Canada. Such a huge country and so little time. Wonderful report, I really like your pictures of Montreal.

Thanks for your comments and pleased that you enjoyed the series. It's taken ages to put together so your comments are appreciated v much. Perhaps the next series for Canada will be a Western adventure! Of course, it will have to contain a few Dash 8 flights   Like Australia, you definitely need a lot of time to properly see Canada - I figure that I can do it bit by bit!

Hi Gr8Circle

Quote:
I've flown 4 times on AC in the past 3 years, domestic, trans-border (to and from the US) and international (YYZ-LHR).....all the flights were consistently good and I had no reason to complain about anything (inspite of being an a.nutter ).....

Interesting to hear about your AC experiences. I certainly did not find them wildly inconsistent but I don't fly with them that often. My only comparison was the last time I flew AC, and that was back in 2003, from SYD-HNL-YVR-YYZ and that was back in the day when they had A340-300s! I have found them to be OK and certainly above average compared to their transatlantic counterparts. Thanks for your comments.



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1445 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9977 times:

Hi Palmjet,

What a great conclusion to your Canadian series, it’s been very enjoyable. Montreal does indeed look like a very special place to visit. You certainly packed a lot into those two weeks and I’m sure it’ll be a trip you’ll never forget.

Still, it seems as though the UK was pleased to have you back, judging by that glorious sunrise you experienced.

AC seem quite ok, the meals look acceptable food-wise, but all the plastic on the tray cheapens it somewhat.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I say good bye to my hotel room the following afternoon, after doing a bit of last minute shopping in the morning. It was very comfortable and I enjoyed my stay very much.

That bed looks fit for a king.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Like many airports, there aren’t a great deal of seats for passengers landside

Try finding one at MAN T1. Impossible.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I decide to go for a snack but not before seeing this whale at the gate, getting ready to swallow some 300+ passengers for Paris CDG.

That brings back some nice memories of my first A380 flight.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This one’s dedicated to Hannah/infodesk!

Merci beaucoup!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Before coming across Mr Porter again, doing a dance!

What a cute advert. It reminds me of the panda ones AY did a few years back, they were really sweet.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
having only eaten a couple of hours prior, and my body clock is telling me it’s around 2am!

I remember that feeling all too well from my NZ trip…..

Thank you for sharing these reports with us and for all your hard work putting them together.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1090 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9817 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Just wanted to nip on and say what a fantastic series of reports these have been... all consistent and professional. You should be proud!

I am surprised at Air Canada, since their offerings are not really competitive with the Europeans, and seem to be on a par even with Air Transat. I suppose their standard is good for a N.American carrier... Porter provides more of an allure each time I see it too   And what is with airlines filling a third of the tray with a bottle of water these days !!!

Keep up the flying and the excellent reports,

Luke



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1217 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9513 times:
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Hey Palmjet,

Great conclusion to your Canadian travels. And a nice way to end it on the Airbus A330-300....Such graceful birds...always love how gently they touch down at Pearson when I go spotting!!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Right next to it is an Air France B777-300ER. Clearly you cannot have enough flights to Paris from here. This flight would actually be leaving before the A380.

They must have quite a load to Paris on a daily basis to warrant two flights...but then BA and KL both have almost double dailies in summer out of YYZ

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Before coming across Mr Porter again, doing a dance!

I saw the most attractive Porter FA yesterday in her uniform with an amazing winter coat, outside Union Station yesterday. Love their retro uniform look

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I am not inflicted with “screaming child in close proximity” condition that WideBodyRoga has been diagnosed with!

I seem to be diagnosed with that too

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
And Canary Wharf nearby

Gorgeous view

Quoting palmjet (Reply 3):
Yes, AC seems to be inconsistent. I don't think that's unique to AC though - most large airlines are pretty inconsistent these days with their service delivery.

I guess you've never flown with Emirates....a large airline with very inconsistent service!! lol...I won't include Etihad because they've been quite consistent except for one particular sector


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9211 times:

Hello Palmjet,

What a great, yet decent way to conclude your Canadian adventure by flying AC! You just know how to trigger my curiosity about AC’s European mainline service after your exciting niche TATL flight to St. John.  


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
it was also the most depressing as it signalled the end of a great two week holiday.

I know how you felt. I had the same feeling when I was leaving your home country.  


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Good thing I’m not from Tasmania!

Only Tasmanian Devil is! 


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Try flying from Europe to Oceania regularly and your definition of longhaul soon changes!

I second that! YUL-LHR is comparable to AMS-DXB for instance and less than a half of AMS-PER.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
It’s also gorgeously green at this time of year.

The green scenery is so beautifully calming!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The views from here at night are stunning on clear nights

Breathtaking!  Wow!


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I needed to come back in 45 minutes time but she told me not to line up again, and just to use the Business Class line and explain that my bag had already been tagged but that I had arrived too early

Very kind of her not to turn you away and have you wait for those 45 minutes.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
not before being quizzed rather passionately by another ground agent who was wondering why I was trying to check my Y class bag in the J class line.

Oops! I sense a slight miscommunication! Luckily, the agent did not make any fuss further.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
getting ready to swallow some 300+ passengers

I love the expression! 


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Right next to it is an Air France B777-300ER.

If I was the passenger of the 77W, I would have asked whether AF could rebook me into its 380!  


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I remember when Air Canada first got their A330s in 1999 and seeing their first one take off over the top of me near LHR in November that year.

Memories! How long have you been living in The UK, may I ask?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of the flight attendants is particularly jovial and shares a joke or two with the passengers which engages the passenger sitting in the next seat. Lots of laughter ensues and they then retreat to the back of the cabin to assist other passengers and secure the cabin.

That’s the spirit!   


Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
beef stroganoff

Lovely! It has been quite a while that I had it for dinner.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
it means we get some amazing views of the sunrise outside not once, or twice, but three times!

Gorgeous!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I really enjoyed St John’s – one of the friendliest and most relaxed places I’ve visited.

Judging on your experience, I believe you!


Thank you very much for the enjoyable AC experience through your eyes.  


Have a nice weekend,
Suryo  

[Edited 2013-01-26 08:26:56]


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User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9133 times:

Hi Palmjet,

great finale of your Canada series, I have enjoyed it a lot.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The views from here at night are stunning on clear nights like this Friday evening. I get to the lookout just as the sun is going down.

Stunning photos of Montreal all lit up in the evening, great job. Now I regret that I only visited that spot in daytime on my trip to Montreal.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Thankfully and perhaps for the only time in history, I am not inflicted with “screaming child in close proximity” condition that WideBodyRoga has been diagnosed with!

  Good to hear that, I was lucky as well on my last long haul flight without any screaming child around. But the one flight before that was a different story.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Good morning United Kingdom

Nice sunrise!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
All the usual tourist sights are then featured

Great views of Lonfon as usual, I need to fly into Heatrow again soon to get some of this views.

Thanks for sharing,

Blaž



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User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1746 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9109 times:

Hi Palmjet

Thanks for the interesting report. Now I remember what Montreal looks like without all the snow!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I say good bye to my hotel room the following afternoon, after doing a bit of last minute shopping in the morning. It was very comfortable and I enjoyed my stay very much.

Just out of curiosity, if I may, what hotel were you staying at?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Especially nice to see the MD11 close up and personal, given that they are all very quickly leaving KLM’s fleet.

If I'm not mistaken that's the bird that stood me up last week...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
It’s starting to get light outside though so I am able to peer out at the sexy wing of the A330 with greater clarity than on departure.

Now this really made me laugh. I think only a true anetter would describe an aircraft's wing as 'sexy' in public!

I've been following the entire series of your reports and I've enjoyed every single one of them, especially the ones with the more exotic carriers and destinations, so thanks for that!

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26794 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8806 times:

Great final report in the series. Thanks for putting them all together.

Lovely photos and read. Glad you enjoyed your two weeks there and all those different flights.

Regards

Philip  


25 MSS658 : Hello Palmjet Nice to see another review about Air Canada! And welcome home, may I say. Air Canada looks to have a good product comparing to the other
26 Post contains images palmjet : Hi Hannah Thanks for your comments. Am glad you enjoyed the series. It was a busy couple of weeks but I was doing things I love the most - nearly all
27 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi Palmjet! Another great report with many nice pictures, a great way to end this fantastic series you have made. Your pictures of Montreal never bore
28 palmjet : Hi Brendan Thanks for your comments on the last instalment. Am very pleased you enjoyed the Canada series. Glad you enjoyed the Montreal pics as well.
29 FLIEGER67 : Hey, J., finally time for me now to catch up with you´re final Canada story. Well done, also the pictures. AC looks good this way. Especially interes
30 palmjet : Hi Markus Thanks very much for your comments too. Glad you enjoyed - nice to read that you're planning another trip to YUL? I remember your report fro
31 okapi : Hi Palmjet! By reading your Canadian "Affaires", all of them, I had the feeling I was travelling along. Thank you so much for sharing. I love your fin
32 PlaneHunter : Hi Palmjet, nice last part of your series with countless great pictures! AC's product looks okay, but not overly impressive. Legroom seems fine, thoug
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