jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4 Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14780 times:
I’ve decided to do things a little out of order here – Despite this trip taking place before my trip to Warsaw ( Poland On The Dream)liner - LOT LHR-WAW-LHR In C/Y (by jwhite9185 Jan 1 2013 in Trip Reports)
), I figured that one would be of more interest so I put more effort into getting that one finished first.
This trip came about after reading a report by PalmJet ( Going Retro, Chasing The Sun: BA B763 To Cyprus (by palmjet May 21 2012 in Trip Reports) ) earlier in the year. I had a basic plan of where I wanted to go throughout the year – roughly one trip a month, but I was struggling to think of somewhere to go in December. I considered Manchester but considering the month the proposed trip was due to take place, this wasn’t the most attractive option. Also the fact I had already made my annual trip ( A Day Trip To MAN (by jwhite9185 Jun 21 2012 in Trip Reports) ) made this only an option if I was really stuck. Luckily, PalmJet’s report provided the inspiration I needed and my December schedule was set. I would later add another trip for December, but that’s a story for another time.
There were quite a few options to get my to Cyprus. EasyJet was the cheapest, however spending in the region of five hours on one didn’t appeal too much. Same goes for Monarch, although the A300 was attractive. The third option was Aegean, however their prices were ridiculous! The timings weren’t great either.
So the final option was the tried and tested British Airways. The widebody appealed, but more attractive was the fact if I flew in Club Europe I'd reach the Bronze tier of their executive club. After coming so close to trying out the BA 767 on my trip to Madrid in October, I was later glad I selected this option. I was also close to booking a 767 flight to Frankfurt earlier in the year until I realized that particular flight left Heathrow earlier than the first coach could get me there.
When the time came to book, I decided to use the British Airways App on my phone, as it seemed a pretty novel way of booking a flight. The process went much better than expected – My PNR wasn’t immediately available, however in the bookings section of the app, everything was there and in the end I received the eticket receipt a few hours later.
Job done – with ease.
Next up was a hotel. I saw explored a few options, but once again I turned to PalmJets report for inspiration and booked the Flamingo Beach Hotel, just a few minutes from the airport for a bargain price of £23 a night.
Upon arriving at work the morning before departure, I was pretty glad that I would soon be somewhere a bit warmer!
Transfer to LHR was the usual National Express coach from my local station. I had actually booked the 06:20 coach, but I later realised that there was one at 05:50. I decided to try my luck with the earlier one and after a bit of a triple take at my ticket I was let on to the earlier one without any questions.
Arrival at the central station was at 06:30, and I headed off to the BA check in area in T3, which was a new experience for me. Not anywhere near as Bling as the VS check in area, but that was to be expected really.
As I'd had a good look round T3 back in September, I made my way straight to the lounge. The fast track security was a little busy, bust as one of the operators saw me with liquids/iPad etc. in hand they signaled me to go to the front and I was through in seconds – see people that’s how its done - Prepare before you get to the x-ray machine and its quicker for everybody! And the advantage of using fast track was that I wasn’t directed through the duty free shop straight after – just through some non descript corridor between shops.
Pretty much where the non VS fast track comes out
The lounge wasn't too bad - and had some good views too although it was still a bit dark outside. The breakfast offerings were better than at Gatwick too.
Pretty good business centre
Eventually I found a comfortable sofa where I could watch TV....
Keep a check on my flight...
And follow what was going on outside, without moving. Perfect!
At 07:50 it was time to head down to gate 24B - via Dixons to look for a new lens cap as mine had decided to wedge itself into my UV filter, rendering both useless.
Once into the holding pen, it looked like G-BZHB would be doing the honours. I'd sat on this one before, but didn't actually get to fly on it ( Cancellations, Widebodies And Iberia LHR-MAD-LHR (by jwhite9185 Oct 17 2012 in Trip Reports) ). At least now there was no grey areas in the flight log!
G-BZHB with a fresh dose of de icer.
As per usual, as soon as the bus turned up, everybody decided they would get to their destination just that bit quicker if they formed a nice long queue at the exit door.
Boarding was called at 08:15, and as usual everybody was travelling in Club Europe. One guy shoved his way past me - "Erm excuse me?!" He came back with "I'm in business class" - to which I replied, "yeah, so am I!" He then backed off and let me go ahead - a little annoying that he just assumed I was in economy, however if the ground crew enforced the boarding rules, it wouldn't have been an issue. There was a brief wait on the bus while the driver checked with the crew if we were ok to board, but a few moments later he re appeared and said he had bribed them with newspapers and we were all let on.
7th December 2012
Seat: 8F / Club Europe
Off Stand: 08:51
On Stand: 15:12
At the door, I was welcomed by name and took my assigned seat of 8K.
First time I've had an amenity kit on an intra Europe flight.
Not much of a view to be had thanks to all the de icing.
During boarding, I asked if I had a seatmate and they said there were only 20 passengers booked into club, so even if there was there would be an opportunity to move. He also mentioned that this aircraft had just come out of maintenance that morning as it was getting a cabin refurb - hmm not too sure about that as it had the new cabin on my previous encounter with this jet back in October.
The captain announced a bit of a delay due to a passenger not showing up, but due to a reasonable flying time of 4 hours, we should still arrive on time. He also said we had a long ish "drive" out to the runway. Love how the BA flight crew use non-technical terms, after the crew on my previous flight mentioned the "Southwesty" runway!
I was having a slight feeling of déjà vu at this point... G-BZHB - check. Club Europe - check. Specifically chosen flight for the 767 - check. Hopefully the pitot heater (and all the other parts for that matter) stay fully functioning this time.
During boarding, the cabin crew came around offering magazines, and then menus and hot towels.
The Menu consisted of:
Once everybody was on board, pushback commenced and we made our way out to runway 27L. There was a bit of a wait outside the new T2 area for around 10 minutes or so, but once we got underway again, we didn't stop and were straight up into the air at 09:15.
Once again a friend of mine tracked my progress on FlightRadar24
Shortly after takeoff the entertainment service began
Followed shortly after by quite a few rounds of breakfast, dished up by the once again friendly and attentive crew. Whilst the main course was cooking, one of the crewmembers came around offering refills of drinks - very pro active. I opted for another tea, and a few moments later he returned with a fresh cup. There was a bit too much milk in it for my liking, but can't fault the personalized service one bit.
More bread sir? Sure!
How about another cup of tea?
Although that final cup of tea had to go down pretty fast as the ride got slightly rough after!
Not too much spilt
Once the many rounds of breakfast had finished, and the bumps had stopped, it was time to watch the world go by for a bit. It looked pretty cold over most of Europe.
Just after the movie started, there was a slight heart in mouth moment. The crew came over the PA and started off with "unfortunately there's been a slight problem..." Uh oh, not again. Luckily the slight problem was that the wrong movie had been loaded and it now wouldn't be the advertised selection. Phew!
the views over the Alps weren't quite as good as on my MXP-ZRH trip
Unfortunately there wasn't an awful lot to be seen outside during the latter stages of the flight.
Around an hour or so before landing, the rolling bar was brought round. Thought I'd try some champagne as it was on the house!
After all the liquids I had taken on during the flight, I headed down the back to use the washroom, taking a couple of pics of the new economy cabin. And unusually for me, I grabbed a pic of the refurbished washroom too.
Not too busy today
The next land we would see would be Cyprus
Around 20 minutes before landing the first officer came over the PA giving in update, stating that "he could see a few potholes out the windscreen", and that he expected arrival pretty much on time. Descent was made to the North of the airport then a pretty sharp right turn over the sea just passing Larnaca and on to finals.
Touchdown was at just before 15:10 local and a few minutes later we were on stand alongside an Austrian A321. Due to the dual jet bridge, Club Europe disembarked within a couple of minutes, and then it was off to passport control.
Once the formalities had been completed, it was out to the shambles that was a taxi rank, with drivers pretty much fighting over my custom... Until they found out I was only going about a mile or so. I eventually found a driver willing to take me on the 10 minute or so journey for €15. Pricey, but the only option available.
A few moments later I was at the Flamingo Beach Hotel. I had previously asked PalmJet what his opinions were on the place - he said good but basic. I have to say I'm in agreement, but I did like the fact I was in my room within 30 minutes of landing!
So do I go left or right?
Not bad for the price I guess.
The next couple of hours were spent relaxing on the balcony. Despite my numerous trips this year, they've all been pretty rushed affairs so I was treating this as my holiday.
Eventually I did venture down into Larnaca to grab some dinner. It was around a 30 minute walk along a dark road that was undergoing maintenance. Not the best of experiences but at least it was flat and straight.
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14921 times:
The following morning I made my way back into Larnaca along the sea to catch a bus to Nicosia.
Along the way I spotted a couple of arrivals into LCA.
And once I arrived in Larnaca, I saw a couple of photo opportunities.
Whist waiting for the (hour late) bus I received the following message.
Oh. Interesting. So once again it would seem a planned trip on a Speedbird 767 had gone out the window.
Onwards to Nicosia however. After the 11am bus hadn’t shown up by 11:30 I was starting to think of other options. I went for a brief wonder around Larnaca and by pure chance I happened to be passing the bus stop again at around 12:00 and spotted a bus heading for Nicosia. What an interesting place – glad I made it now! Pretty much the moment I stepped off the bus I had somebody trying to flog me a 2 hour guided tour of the city for just €20. Hmmm no thanks sounds a little too good to be true. I prefer exploring places on my terms anyway. In the southern part of the city, it could have been any town in the UK really. All the usual shops etc. and an observation deck at the top of Debenhams, which cost just €2 to enter.
Ledra Palace Hotel – although no longer a hotel.
After which I made my way down to the border crossing to the Northern part.
What a difference a few metres make. From being in relatively modern surroundings 10 seconds or so earlier, to being in a pretty run down area was a bit of an eye opener to say the least. I spent an interesting couple of hours or so looking around though.
This used to be a cathedral until the takeover. Now it’s a mosque.
Abandoned shopping centre
You don’t have to tell me twice…
On the way out, I asked for one last stamp in my soon to be retired passport.
And I got to keep my visa
It was then a bit of a rushed walk for the bus. As much as I found Nicosia an interesting place, I'm not sure I could have spent another three hours there until the next bus back to Larnaca.
More oranges in winter
During the bus ride back, I tried to check in online for my flight, however somewhat unsurprisingly this was a no go.
I received a phone call from the local British Airways office a few moments later, confirming the aircraft change and that they didn't know the reason. I did however – a BA 767 had gone tech in EDI the previous day so they were one short. They did however state that I would receive the full Club service, just in an economy seat - so the standard Club Europe service? This was also confirmed via twitter after I'd mentioned it earlier in the day. Although they said a similar thing when I was shoved on to Iberia a couple of months back... more on that later though.
After the bus arrived back in Larnaca (and not a moment too soon - the guy sat opposite threw up everywhere and it stunk), I went for a brief wonder but nothing much took my fancy. Despite my internal clock telling me it was only just past 3pm the local time was 5pm and it was dark and starting to get a little chilly. So I reluctantly made the 30 minute or so walk back to the hotel.
When I arrived, I sat out on the balcony and watched a few of the arrivals, ate the dinner I had leftover from last night and read a magazine.
Olympic casting a lot of light on the sea.
Feast for one!
Sunday morning was spent wondering the beach and catching the very few arrivals into LCA. A couple of Cyprus Airways A320’s, an Olympic A319, one Aegean A320 and the token Emirates A340 were pretty much it for the morning bar from a couple of private Cessna’s. No doubt this was the quiet season!
That’s what we like to hear!
First time I'd seen this livery in the flesh – quite like it actually.
This was the one I was waiting for.
After which I wondered round to the salt lake, before heading back to the hotel again.
Hotel from the beach
Once back at the hotel, I checked the inbound status of my flight to try and see what type it would be, although all I could really find out was that it was delayed and due to arrive into LCA approx. 5 mins before my flight was due to due to depart.
After checking out of the hotel, I sat on the beach for a while before the hotel arranged to take me back to the airport at 13:00, again for €15 although I’m not totally sure this was above board – I suspect that money went straight into the drivers pocket as no mention was made of this at reception.
Updating the TR on the beach!
Whilst on the beach, I decided to do another check on my flight, and a delayed departure now seemed inevitable
Upon arriving at the airport, I found that check in was yet to open, so I took the opportunity to have a look at the departure area, used the free Wi-Fi to check what type was operating my flight and watched an Aeroflot A321 arrive. Shame it wasn’t the IL96.
G-POWD it is then.
When check in finally did open, it was quite a drawn out process - 25 minutes in total - due to the fact I was the first person booked into club Europe to be checked in. I guess the hold up was understandable though. They were doing their best, although unfortunately not everybody saw it that way. Personally I don't see the point in shouting at screaming at somebody when they're doing everything within their control. In the end, I was treated far better as I was understanding about the situation, and they blocked the seat next to me. And the reason for the delay - all passengers booked into Club Europe got a rather fancy BA branded cash card pre loaded with £50/€60 as a gesture of good will. Also included was a letter with instructions on how to claim back the difference in price between an economy and Club fare. Worth waiting 25 minutes for in my opinion. The ground crew were very helpful throughout the process and even told me to draw the cash out from the card in one go as I'd be charged after that. Although as I mentioned, as I was one of the few people who weren’t giving them issues, I'd imagine they would want to be kept busy with me rather then being given abuse by the others. I left with a bit of a haul of paperwork.
Following this was security - where unfortunately I did get a little angry. My bag was singled out for a search where the frankly quite rude security officer proceeded to unpack my entire bag, literally throwing my stuff into a tray - camera and iPad included then shoving it back at me because they couldn't be bothered to repack everything. Thanks. I did try and ask them to be a little more careful but they conveniently didn't speak any English and wondered off once they had finished.
After this it was a brief look airside before heading for the lounge.
It was a little disappointing but pretty much as expected from a third party lounge. But still better than the one in Nice.
The only English newspaper available… I didn’t bother.
LH to MUC
And the finale.
This would be where I'd spend the next few hours until my flight was ready for boarding.
Around the time my plane was due to arrive, I headed outside on to the terrace to grab a few pics.
Pretty noisy little jet
Look what just flew overhead…
And then touchdown.
Then once inside, I grabbed a coffee and surfed the net. Then upon glancing up at the fid, I got a bit of a shock.
Luckily this was a false alarm, as a few moments later a porter arrived to take another passenger down to the gate. I asked him what was going on and he said I had plenty of time - I didn't take any chances though I made my way down.
Boarding was announced at 17:00 and as usual it was chaos. Myself and another older guy who had been at check in and the lounge with me stood near the front of the queue. He told me to make sure I got on before that lot - yeah-fat chance I replied! By this time another few people from the lounge had appeared and formed a bit of a blockade! Although that still didn't stop many people from shoving their way through, claiming they were entitled to preboarding due to medical conditions. They looked fine to me though.
This was one of the very few times I was heading down a jet bridge and had almost no idea what to expect when I got to the other end.
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14954 times:
9th December 2012
767-36NER / G-POWD
Seat: 4G / Economy
Once onboard, the cabin seemed pretty modern and clean although a little cramped. Basically your typical charter jet. The width of the seat wasn't brilliant, but as I had no seatmate this wasn't a problem as I could put the armrest up - after departure of course! And the legroom was quite poor - I'm not the tallest person by a long shot, yet when I put the seat into recline my knees were touching the seat in front. Wouldn't want to go trans Atlantic on this one.
Reclined legroom (later in the flight)
One major advantage of this jet over the BA machine though
At 17:25 the captain introduced himself and Titan airways, giving a brief history of the airline and saying that our flight time will 4 hours and 50 minutes and that due to a headwind the first hour and a half of the flight would be a bit on the bumpy side. He also mentioned a further delay due to missing our slot so we now wouldn't be leaving until 52 minutes past the hour. A couple of minutes later he was back on saying that he had forgotten to mention a slightly different startup procedure - due to the APU not working one engine would have to be started on the stand. That would explain why it was uncomfortably hot onboard.
Not much happening this evening
I noticed quite a few BA crew on board - I'm assuming they were due to operate the original planned aircraft back to LHR tonight.
Pushback came at 17:45 and we made our way out to the runway, departing at 17:55. Unfortunately there wasn't much to be seen due to the darkness and the low cloud cover. Shortly after takeoff the IFE was switched on. Although due to BA not providing Titan with any headsets only those with their own could use it. I chose the skymap.
About the only thing BA related so far were the nuts.
The only other source of entertainment at this point was watching a thunderstorm over Greece.
Then it was the meal service - to be honest this was a little disappointing. Even in Economy I'd have expected a little more on a nearly 5-hour sector. So much for getting the full Club Europe service onboard.
A duck wrap
And a cup of...well nothing.
Luckily I still had some crisps that I'd borrowed from the lounge in LHR - so I didn't starve.
Around halfway through the flight, I decided to go for a walk down the back. Only for the seatbelt sign to be switched in the moment I reach the rear galley - typical! The load seemed around 50%.
Taken on my way back to my seat.
As I returned to my seat, we passed Zagreb.
Interesting how this one has rounder windows than the BA example.
The seatbelt signs were then switched on again a few moments later - the captain made an announcement about the turbulence but as I was in the front galley talking Titan with one of the cabin crew I didn't really get to hear it, although I think the gist was that we were climbing above the bad weather. Annoying because we were having a good chat and I was finding the seat a bit uncomfortable by now.
At 20:05, after an uncomfortable few hours it was time to descend into London. Seemed as if we had left it a little late as the speedbrakes were deployed for much of the descent. We approached over London and as it was a clear night I had a pretty good view.
Unusually there was no holding this evening and we were straight in on runway 27L, touching down just after 20:35. Then it was a pretty speedy taxi over to T3, although at first we appeared to be heading for T5 – I wondered for a second if the flight deck had realized this flight was a T3 flight – or that we would even park at a remote T5 stand and be bussed to T3 so that the aircraft can be in the right place for its next mission. But we bypassed T5 and parked on one of the remote T3 stands.
The second best livery out there – after Germanwings
After which it was on to a bus and through the corridors of a quiet Terminal 3.
After being bussed to the terminal, I figured if I got a move on I might just be able to catch the 21:15 coach, so all thoughts then turned to making a speedy transition through immigration, T3 arrivals and the tunnel over to the Central bus station. And I made it with just a few moments to spare!
And so brings to an end my penultimate trip of 2012. Despite the trip on the rare bird home, I think I would still rather had flown BA club. I don’t ever remember being so uncomfortable on a plane before. The plus side was that BA were very accommodating regarding the change of the aircraft. The €60 voucher was a decent gesture of goodwill although despite the letter stating I should visit ba.com to claim the refund I ended up having to phone them as the website only really related to either cancelled or delayed flights, of which mine was neither.
theobcman From UK - England, joined Nov 2010, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 13992 times:
Brilliant report - really enjoyed it. I've got this same w/end trip booked for later this year using some avios & staying at Flamingo Beach hotel. But LCA flight times are changing - LHR-LCA is going to 2230-0500 returning at 1000.
New seats replaced the old fabric Y seats, the convertible club seats were recovered and had new cushions fitted.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): Then it was the meal service - to be honest this was a little disappointing. Even in Economy I'd have expected a little more on a nearly 5-hour sector. So much for getting the full Club Europe service onboard.
Normally a full three course hot meal is offered. The wraps are offered on Band 3 flights (about 1:30 to 2:30 flying time). I'm guessing that there were some issues in loading the catering on the Titan aircraft. BA 767s have a double galley at doors 2, which isn't fitted on the Titan aircraft, so I'm guessing they didn't have enough room to load the meal trays.
It was clean and due to the new interior seemed spacious enough. I found the seat pitch was just too little though. Towards the end of the flight I was getting quite uncomfortable - and hungry due to the poor excuse for the onboard catering. Thank god for the kebab shop on the walk home from the station!!
Quoting theobcman (Reply 4): I've got this same w/end trip booked for later this year using some avios & staying at Flamingo Beach hotel.
Its good for spotting, but a bit of a walk out of town. Hopefully the roadworks are complete by the time you go as the walk was a little awkward at night. Also hope you didn't pay too much for it - Although I'd say it was decent enough for the price I paid, I'd be a little disappointed if I'd paid the £100+ they wanted if I'd booked through their own website.
Quoting theobcman (Reply 4): LCA flight times are changing - LHR-LCA is going to 2230-0500 returning at 1000.
I'd heard the times and terminal were changing, but didn't know the timings. Those times sound awful to me. Guess its all to do with fleet rotation. Another reason why I went for the BA flight were that it was the only one that got in at a decent hour - seems thats no longer the case.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6944 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13173 times:
very nice report about your trip to Cyprus. What a great destination it is - I really need to go there for spotting one day. BA's C Class product looks good on the 767 and you got a great fare.
I would have been happy about the aircraft change especially after already flying on a BA 767 in C Class. That Titan 767 is really rare and you got the fare difference back. And legroom on that bird seems to be quite generous - just look where your knees were.
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12819 times:
Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 5): Normally a full three course hot meal is offered.
Yeah thats the least I was expecting, considering I was told twice that I would get the full Club service - even though I still had my doubts about that, I was still expecting to get the hot meal from economy at the very least.
Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 5): I'm guessing that there were some issues in loading the catering on the Titan aircraft. BA 767s have a double galley at doors 2, which isn't fitted on the Titan aircraft, so I'm guessing they didn't have enough room to load the meal trays.
Could of been, but when this bird is on a trans Atlantic mission, I doubt they would serve just sandwiches then.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7): What a great destination it is - I really need to go there for spotting one day.
Its not a bad place - the problem is though in the summer season when the airport is busy, the fares are high. And as I experienced when the fares are low in the winter, the airport is quiet. Also found there wasn't a huge amount in Larnaca itself - there were quite a few places to eat, but Nicosia seemed to be where most of the action was.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7): BA's C Class product looks good on the 767 and you got a great fare.
In hindsight, nearly two months later I think that catching that rare example was pretty good as I doubt many of us will get the chance to sample it. At the time however, I was a little disappointed as, like you say, the BA C class product was very good.
roberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11599 times:
Nice report James! Of course I already followed your story about the equipment in the Facebook group, but nice to read about it in more detail now. Of course thanks for the excellent tour of the island and the beach. LCA is a little bit like the SXM of Europe isn't it?
palmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 11546 times:
Great report and thanks for the mention !
It was interesting to see just how quiet LCA was at the time of year you visited. I had read however that Cyprus was one of the few Med destinations which was good all year round and not as seasonally dependent as other places in that part of the world. LCA was very busy in early May when I was there. Shame the SU IL96s weren't visiting when you were there - they were a highlight for me.
Yep, the Flamingo is pretty basic. I did not pay anything near what they were asking for on on the website either - that would have been way too overpriced for the standard of the hotel.
Great to see your pics of Nicosia as well - and the salt lake.
The arrival shots of London on the way back are magical - great snaps !
Thanks - and no problem. Would of been a bit rude to steal your holiday idea and not give you any credit!
Quoting palmjet (Reply 12): It was interesting to see just how quiet LCA was at the time of year you visited.
Yeah, between looking at yours and Gabriel's reports from there, it was a bit of a ghost town in comparison.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 12): I had read however that Cyprus was one of the few Med destinations which was good all year round and not as seasonally dependent as other places in that part of the world.
The weather was pretty good during the day - T-Shirt weather. Got a bit chilly in the evening though. Hotel seemed pretty full to me. Especially when there was a party on the Saturday night until 2am. Still, least the breakfast hall was empty when I went down the following morning!!
Quoting palmjet (Reply 12): Shame the SU IL96s weren't visiting when you were there - they were a highlight for me.
Guess they only send them during the busy season.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 12): Yep, the Flamingo is pretty basic. I did not pay anything near what they were asking for on on the website either - that would have been way too overpriced for the standard of the hotel.
Exactly - they wanted somewhere around £160 for 2 nights if I remember correctly. Even the likes of laterooms.com and expedia were after £80 for the 2 nights. Luckily I found it so cheap really.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 12): The arrival shots of London on the way back are magical - great snaps !
Yeah I was lucky for once. Normally its either cloudy or I've got jet blast blurring things.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11458 times:
Hi James nice report.
I prefer to go to Cyrpus in the Winter as it is quiet and not over touristy. You can also have a good chance of half decent weather. Good choice. Your pictures of the Turkish side of Nicosia are quite interesting. Some things I recognise that have obviously been shut down or left to age. Like the South the North has been hit hard by the crisis. Still the restored historic quarter funded by international Aid still seems to be ok. I do like the Turkish side of Nicosia despite the run down feel of it. Did you eat there? You should have gone to a local Cypriot cafe and had a selection of very nice grilled meats and salad.
The Swissport lounge looks ok to me judging some of the numerous lounges I have been to over the last three months. Food seems better than a lot I have had the pleasure of gracing my presence with
Nice shot of the OA Airbus
Shame about the switch to Titan but still its rare to bag that so for me it would have been a case of you loose something but gain a new Reg and product even if it was not 100% . As for the wrap served by that was certainly lame. I got that for a 2.5 hour flight to FCO a few weeks back and whilst it was suitable for that length it most certainly is not for LCA !
I didn't no. Actually I don't remember eating anything at all while I was out that day?
Quoting OA260 (Reply 14): The Swissport lounge looks ok to me judging some of the numerous lounges I have been to over the last three months. Food seems better than a lot I have had the pleasure of gracing my presence with
It was ok for a third party lounge - but nowhere near the standard of the BA lounges!
I was thinking of you actually as I was shooting that one...
Quoting OA260 (Reply 14): As for the wrap served by that was certainly lame. I got that for a 2.5 hour flight to FCO a few weeks back and whilst it was suitable for that length it most certainly is not for LCA !
I think that was the most disappointing part for me. Another reason why I chose BA over the likes of EZY etc. was I'd get a full meal. The fact there wasn't even any option to purchase more, and I was given the impression that I'd still get the full Club service just added to the disappointment really.
As I mentioned though, It was still an aircraft I'm unlikely to fly on again though - at least in its Titan life.
I guess there aren't too many Titan reports out there.
To be honest, although I was aware that the overhead bins on the BA 767 had been replaced, I still can't see how they're really like the 777 - especially when you compare them to the cabin on the Titan 767. And the screens were new, as they were CRT before.
Regarding the taxi service - I had looked at pre booking online, but even then prices weren't that much cheaper really so decided against it.
CARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 837 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10217 times:
Hey James, great report there. I am always surprised how much widebody flying is going on intra Europe these days and tempted to follow your steps with booking one of these BA 767s, too. Anything is better than the boring 737-A320-combination on most routes.
BA European biz class looks great. I was amazed at the excellent breakfast and the superb Lounge as this is just a short intra-Europe hop. I think I am a little bit jealous now! ^^
Lanarca seems to be a cool airport for spotting at the beach. But you are right, seems rather expensive in the summer, probably the majority of the cheap tickets are sold to tour operators.
A let down to miss on the BA J cabin on the flight back, but very interesting to get on this Charter-767. Very unique. Never heard of Titan before, I assume they have a rather small fleet?
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 15): I think that was the most disappointing part for me. Another reason why I chose BA over the likes of EZY etc. was I'd get a full meal. The fact there wasn't even any option to purchase more, and I was given the impression that I'd still get the full Club service just added to the disappointment really.
Just a guess, but perhaps this charter bird doesn't have enough storage space and so they could not load enough meals/drinks/special J meals at LHR and had to buy some wraps from a caterer at LCA? Could be possible as a lot of airlines just load meals/drinks at their hubs and have them on the plane for both outbound and inbound segments. I think it does not add up to serve you such a great breakfast on the outbound and just a wrap on the inbound. Or someone messed up and they did not load any J meals as they thought this is a all-Y Titan 767?
EL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1358 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10079 times:
Thank you for very interesting report. Cyprus has so much to see on this small island. The difference between both parts of the island is indeed great, and it shows particularly in the capitol.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): The only other source of entertainment at this point was watching a thunderstorm over Greece
I rether this then most stupit programs on airlines nowdays!
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): all passengers booked into Club Europe got a rather fancy BA branded cash card pre loaded with £50/€60 as a gesture of good will. Also included was a letter with instructions on how to claim back the difference in price between an economy and Club fare.
That's it? This is all you got? Not a good way to keep your C passengers in my opinion! In El Al you would get half the price of the ticket back, at least.
Thx for shearing! Jonathan
"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): I am always surprised how much widebody flying is going on intra Europe these days
Theres a fair bit out there if you look hard enough! Although this is one of the longest intra Europe sectors out there - fly any further and you're in the Middle East!
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): tempted to follow your steps with booking one of these BA 767s, too.
Maybe try out the MAD trip I did a few months back - and hope the BA 767 doesn't go tech.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): Anything is better than the boring 737-A320-combination on most routes.
Very true and I not look for the routes that avoid that combo - although I have logged a few A32X series, I've only got the one 737NG in the book so far.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): BA European biz class looks great. I was amazed at the excellent breakfast and the superb Lounge as this is just a short intra-Europe hop.
Wouldn't call over 4 hours a short intra-Europe hop. Maybe 40 minutes or so between LHR-AMS, which also sees a similar product and the BA 767.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): A let down to miss on the BA J cabin on the flight back, but very interesting to get on this Charter-767.
Yeah, disappointing to miss a full BA dinner service, but could of been worse with the choice of substitute aircraft.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): Very unique. Never heard of Titan before, I assume they have a rather small fleet?
They have one 767 a few 757's and a few RJ100's. They're based at STN and one of their biggest selling points is that an airline can lease a plane from them with just an hours notice - as what happened with the plane I was on. The cabin crew I was talking to said she got the call at 6am that morning - and thats why the outbound was delayed. By the time the crew were on board, the aircraft positioned from STN-LHR and was then prepared just and hours delay was quite good considering.
Quoting CARST (Reply 18): Just a guess, but perhaps this charter bird doesn't have enough storage space and so they could not load enough meals/drinks/special J meals at LHR and had to buy some wraps from a caterer at LCA? Could be possible as a lot of airlines just load meals/drinks at their hubs and have them on the plane for both outbound and inbound segments. I think it does not add up to serve you such a great breakfast on the outbound and just a wrap on the inbound. Or someone messed up and they did not load any J meals as they thought this is a all-Y Titan 767?
It wasn't even a Y meal. Reading PalmJets report, he got a full cooked meal.
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19): The difference between both parts of the island is indeed great, and it shows particularly in the capitol.
It was quite eye opening how just a few meters made such a difference.
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19): That's it? This is all you got? Not a good way to keep your C passengers in my opinion! In El Al you would get half the price of the ticket back, at least.
I've now received (in the last week) a refund of the difference in fare between economy and Club, as well as the cash. I still got use of the lounge in LCA, full TP's and Avios so cant complain too much.
Sultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1789 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9954 times:
Good to see this interesting comparison here. While I understand that for many of the paying Club customers it wasn't the best of aircraft subs, I do believe that for an a.netter it couldn't be a better one. You certainly flew an interesting bird with the Titan and by the looks of it, that wasn't a half bad experience at all. Of course not as good as the real thing aka BA Club but still very acceptable. The plane looked good inside out, shame about the meagre meal though. The 'new' BA 763 cabin looks quite nice as well.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): Boarding was called at 08:15, and as usual everybody was travelling in Club Europe.
Ha ha, did they all of a sudden change the cabin config?
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9606 times:
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 21): While I understand that for many of the paying Club customers it wasn't the best of aircraft subs, I do believe that for an a.netter it couldn't be a better one.
As mentioned, there were a couple of other passengers kicking up a fuss at check in - saying why couldn't BA take a plane off of one of the shuttles. Well, yeah but then the passengers from the shuttle flight would be complaining that their flight had been cancelled.
Interestingly this was the only time BA used this particular aircraft outside the UK. The rest of the week it went on the EDI/GLA run and the LCA flight was operated by an A321.
aerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2862 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9043 times:
Glad ye finally got your BA 767! Although unbelievable on the way back..hey ya win some ya lose some. At least it was an interesting mix! The BA J offering to Cyprus looks very nice. I certainly wouldn´t mind lying on the beach there & seeing A340s sail over...hmm maybe a cheaper alternative to SXM Titan have an interesting livery...pity it was so uncomfortable but at least BA offered some sort of comp.
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adamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1177 posts, RR: 12
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8957 times:
Another good report with many nice pictures as usual.
Looks like you had a great few days in Larnaca at a good price for CE!
BA looks quite good on the outbound, had the same English breakfast during my unexpected LHR-VCE flght a week ago..
Great pictures of Larnaca, really enjoyed them!
Very poor by BA to be put in a Titan 767 being a premium passenger IMHO, nevertheless its interesting to see the interior something we dont see too much here.
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 25): Looks like you had a great few days in Larnaca at a good price for CE!
Yeah having that extra day meant I could relax just that bit more - and being the offseason the prices were good and It wasn't overly crowded either.
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 25): Very poor by BA to be put in a Titan 767 being a premium passenger IMHO
Well as they said in the letter it was either that or cancel the flight. Although to be honest I wouldn't of minded an extra day in the sun at BA's expense as I wasn't due back at work the following day. Although seeing the fuss some of the other Club passengers were making over just an aircraft sub, I'm not sure everybody would of been of the same opinion.
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 25): nevertheless its interesting to see the interior something we dont see too much here.
True. I was aware of Titan before, but wasn't all that clued up about them. I learnt quite a bit on that flight as the crew seemed keen on letting everybody know their story.
infodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8220 times:
Good to read about your latest 767 adventure. You certainly seem to have a special relationship with them!
Firstly I'm really glad that outbound leg went without any hiccups and that you got to enjoy the proper Club service, which looked very good btw.
I'm sure you had mixed feeling about the Titan substitute: sure interesting to log something new but that wrap is a pretty pathetic offering for a 5 hour flight. I was supposed to fly them last year out of Sion, sadly things didn't work out. Kudos to BA though for refunding the fare difference and giving you the cashcard, that seems fare enough.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): Although that final cup of tea had to go down pretty fast as the ride got slightly rough after!
Yep, know all about that feeling!
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): I headed down the back to use the washroom, taking a couple of pics of the new economy cabin. And unusually for me, I grabbed a pic of the refurbished washroom too.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter): Personally I don't see the point in shouting at screaming at somebody when they're doing everything within their control. In the end, I was treated far better as I was understanding about the situation, and they blocked the seat next to me.
Quite right. You'll achieve far more being nice to the staff in a situation like that.
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1405 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8154 times:
Quoting infodesk (Reply 27): Good to read about your latest 767 adventure. You certainly seem to have a special relationship with them!
Its more of a love/hate thing!
Quoting infodesk (Reply 27): Firstly I'm really glad that outbound leg went without any hiccups and that you got to enjoy the proper Club service, which looked very good btw.
Yeah so was I. And the Club service was much better on this leg compared to the one I received from LGW a few weeks earlier. Not that there was anything wrong with the LGW service - just the LHR one was better still.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 27): I'm sure you had mixed feeling about the Titan substitute: sure interesting to log something new but that wrap is a pretty pathetic offering for a 5 hour flight.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 27): I was supposed to fly them last year out of Sion, sadly things didn't work out.
Shame as there one of the exotic ones - and I'm not sure you can actually book one of their flights either. Just pot luck as to weather one of their planes has been scheduled to operate your flight.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 27): Kudos to BA though for refunding the fare difference and giving you the cashcard, that seems fare enough.
Yeah, although despite the letter saying it was £50, with the exchange rate it was actually about £47! So still has £7 on it. Must try to draw the rest out when I'm on the continent again.