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Comparing LH And LX In Business Class: ARN-LIS-FCO  
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7661 times:

Comparing LH and LX in C
ARN-FRA-LIS-ZRH-FCO


Hello folks, welcome to my latest trip report, covering a roundtrip to Lisbon in Business Class. The outbound trip would be operated by Lufthansa, and the inbound trip by Swiss, so this trip was an excellent opportunity to compare both carries in C intra-Europe. Please refer to my previous trip report Mission Bromma And Saab 2000 (BRU-BMA-MMX-BMA-SDL) (by roberts87 Nov 16 2012 in Trip Reports) for a more thorough introduction to this trip. It basically tells you how I ended up in Stockholm Arlanda (ARN) from where I needed to ‘burn’ some Miles&More frequent flier miles on an intra-Europe roundtrip. To make full use of the Business Class experience I chose one of the further destinations and longer flights; Lisbon (LIS), via Frankfurt on LH. Since I didn’t necessarily had to return to Stockholm and the conditions of the award flights also allows you to return to a different destination I decided to fly back to Rome (FCO), via Zurich on LX. Although this airport is covered quite a bit here on A.net it would be a new airport for me. From Rome I would return back home on AF and KL via Bordeaux, as part of an open jaw ticket from another trip. Since I have already reported on a number of AF and KL flights I took in 2012, I will focus this report on the Lufthansa and Swiss flights. Please allow the wonderful Great Circle Mapper to illustrate the flights covered in this report:

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Saturday August 25th 2012
Lufthansa Flight LH801
Stockholm Arlanda Airport (ARN) – Frankfurt Airport (FRA)
Airbus A321
Seat 2F


174th overall flight
11th flight on Lufthansa
6th flight on an Airbus A321 (45th flight on an Airbus A320 Series)
4th visit to ARN and 10th visit to FRA
1st time flying the ARN-FRA route

Departure Time (Scheduled/Actual): 10.15 / 10.12
Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 12.30 / 12.29
Block time (Scheduled / Actual): 2.15/ 2.17
Flight duration: 1 hour, 55 minutes
Mileage: 762 nm

So I spent the night at Stockholm Arlanda Airport, in the famous Jumbo Hostel. It was a neat experience. Although once your inside your room you don’t really notice anymore you’re in an old 747, the operators of the hostel did do their best to enhance the entire experience. So it was interesting none the less. Added benefit of staying in the Jumbo Hostel was that I didn’t need to get up all that early to go to the airport. With plenty of time to spare, I took a shuttle bus towards Arlanda’s Terminal 5 at at around 8 in the morning and made my way towards the Scandinavian Airlines check-in area, who also handle their Star Alliance buddy Lufthansa here at ARN.

Lufthansa allows Business Class passengers within Europe to pre-select their seat in the Manage My Booking module. I was able to secure a window seat well in advance for all sectors, except FRA-LIS, where I selected 2D in the end. When I performed online check-in – via the Scandinavian Airlines website - the night before I noticed that 1A had become available, but I could not select that seat. The next morning, when checking in online again, the seat was still available but I still couldn’t select it. The same also happened when using the Self Service check-in machines. So I approached an empty Business Class check-in counter, to ask if they could select the seat. Also here the agent was not able to select the seat, and he suggested that I should ask at a transfer desk in Frankfurt. He suspected, that row 1 (which only have an A and C seat) was held by Lufthansa for their frequent flyers.
There was hardly a queue for security, but in the regular line as in the priority line. I of course used the latter, I don’t get to fly Business Class all that much, so I might as well enjoy the little perks. As it had been a few years since I last visited ARN I first took a little stroll around, did some aircraft- and operations watching before I made my way to the lounges. Scandinavian Airlines operated two lounge here, which are located adjacent to each other and use the same service desk. First there is the Business Lounge, for Business Class passengers of SK and affiliated carriers, and secondly there is the Scandinavian lounges which is only available for top tier passengers in SK’s own program. I had a light breakfast in the lounge – a decently stocked buffet – and did some people watching in the not all too busy lounge. After a little while I decided to try my luck and see if I could have a visit to the Scandinavian Lounge as well, which was granted, probably because it was also rather quiet there. Not much differences between the two lounges to be honest, except for some extra choice in booze perhaps.

Scandinavian and Star Alliance check-in area.


No lines for security


Also not so busy on the apron.


Must have a 717 in a report. Oh no, wait that’s for trip reports about HEL.


Visitor from the US in the far back


Finally a shot with some more aircraft in it, including a Boeing 737-600, of which SK is one of the few operators in Europe.


View of the Business Lounge



And the Scandinavian Lounge



And the Lufthansa Airbus A321 that will take me to Frankfurt



Boarding was already well underway when I arrived at the gate. At the entrance of the aircraft I was greeted by a friendly purser and I took my seat 2F, which is the bulkhead seat. Row 1 is only on the left side aircraft, as there is cloak room located at the area where seats 1D and 1F would have been. Already a little before ten o’clock a ‘boarding complete’ announcement was made, so that was quite early for our 10.15 departure. A look towards the back of the cabin revealed an average load of about 75%. 8 rows were dedicated to Business Class, of which only three had more than 2 passengers in them. Most of the passengers, including myself had three seats for themselves. It appeared that two members of the Cabin Crew would be working on the Business Class section today, the female purser and a younger male FA. The latter distributed Newsweeks and/or Time Magazines after the boarding was completed and he also performed the manual safety demo which a large smile and grin on his face. As he was standing right in front of me I had to pay attention. Just before pushback there was a small word for the cockpit announcing an ontime departure and an expected flight time of 1 hour and 55 minutes. Pushback was indeed a few minutes early, and with only a short taxi my first intra-Europe Business Class flight had begun a few minutes later.

The obligatory leg room shot.


The blocked middle seat and the unoccupied aisle seat.


Taxiing out and entering the runway.




Take-off over the beautiful Swedish landscape until we headed into the clouds.






Shortly after we headed into the clouds the younger FA came around asking if I wanted breakfast. Well of course. As the load in business was light, all passengers were served individually from the galley which was a nice personal touch. On the Stockholm route a warm breakfast is served, and this time it was a German dish of which I didn’t quite get the name but it was some sort of warm coockie-crumble and tasted pretty good. Additionally there was some fruit, some cold slices of meat and the usual breads. I had an orange juice and a coffee with it. Service during the flight was excellent with many refills being offered.

Breakfast in the sky.



Somewhere over Denmark.


Huge amount of legroom in seat 2D, where I was so far seated in for the FRA-LIS flight



When we were heading into German airspace the amount of clouds increased which made for some great scenery outside. In spite of the clouds, flying conditions were good and during descent the usual connecting flights information was given. For some shorter connections the gates were announced, and a gate change was announced for the flight to Mexico, which was repeated in Spanish – well done. Our arrival gate would be A15 – not a busgate, a welcome surprise as this would give me some extra time in Frankfurt.

Descending towards Frankfurt







It soon become clear that we would be landing on the new runway, which was a first for me. The views of downtown Frankfurt are pretty amazing when landing on this runway




Touchdown and exiting runway quite rapidly.



Nice viewing hill next to the runway, with some spotters present.


Nice collection of Lufthansa long haul aircraft.



Frankfurt Airport, here we are.


Saturday August 25th 2012
Lufthansa Flight LH1810
Frankfurt Airport (FRA) – Lisbon Airport (LIS)
Airbus A321
Seat 1A


175th overall flight
12th flight on Lufthansa
7th flight on an Airbus A321 (46th flight on an Airbus A320 Series)
11th visit to FRA and 1st visit to LIS
1st time flying the FRA-LIS route

Departure Time (Scheduled/Actual): 13.55 / 13.52
Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 15.55 / 16.01
Block time (Scheduled / Actual): 3.00 / 3.09
Flight duration: 2 hour, 55 minutes
Mileage: 1165 nm

Right, so the first stop in Frankfurt would be a transfer desk. There was one conveniently located in the vicinity of our arrival gate to where I quickly proceeded. A few passengers ahead of me in line, but it was quickly my turn and I explained to the agent that I currently had an aisle seat but preferred a window seat and I inquired if 1A was still available. Indeed it was, and the agent issued a new boarding without hesitation. Great!

The next stop: the Business Lounge. Lufthansa has quite a few lounges throughout the Frankfurt Airport, but since I was flying in and out of the Schengen A terminal I had only had one lounge at my disposal. It turned to be a pretty nice lounge. Quite a few food options on offer including soup, salads, breads, yoghurts, snacks, etc. and a well-stocked bar as well. And as a bonus some great views of the apron as well! A nice addition in the back of the lounge was a Sportsbar.

Lunch in the lounge. I absolutely loved the soup. Pretty good wine as well.


Great views from the lounge.



Interior of the lounge



And the – empty - sports bar.


The aircraft that would take me to Lisbon, another A321. Now I don’t usually keep track of registrations, but this one is hard to miss: it’s D-AIRY



After spending an enjoyable hour in the lounge it was time to go flying again. Again a jet bridge for this flight, so once again a small walk. Again, boarding was well underway and I was among the last to be on board. 4 Rows of business class this time, with most seats taken. Not the usual business class crowd though on this Saturday afternoon: 2 passengers in their mid-twenties (including myself), a gentleman in his forties but very leisurely dressed, a family with two kids probably around 10 years and one gentleman in a suit. I overheard of the FA’s mentioning that Y was fully booked for this flight. When boarding was completed the captain on the FA apologizing for the delay, which was interested as we pushed back early. Flight time was announced as 2 hours and 50 minutes with a routing Luxembourg-Paris-Brittany-Bay of Biscay-North Spain-Portugal. Manual safety demo was presented during the long taxi towards the Southerly runway.

Yeah, looks like I’ll be flying Business Class today on the city of Flensburg



Goodbye Frankfurt



Take off!





Great service again by the crew on this flight. First a drinks run accompanied with some nuts. I opted for a champagne / sparkling wine. Afterwards, menus were distributed, with two options for the hot main course. During the meal service two drinks runs and/or drinks were offered. And after that coffee and tea. In the last hour of the flight yet another drunk run was made.

Champagne above the clouds…



Todays menu.


I chose the braised beef with polenta, which tasted excellent. Especially the beef was very well braised and was delicious. The other items were also good, except for the fennel and olive salad, but that’s more of a personal taste – not such a big fan of olives. And the bread was a bit dry


Cruising over France



And reaching the Bay of Biscay, followed by the Spanish coast




The clouds started to clear as we reached Portugal



And when we approach Lisbon, an amazing view over the city was offered with a great final descent into the airport. I’ll just let the pictures do the talking.












Touchdown after 2 hours and 55 minutes of flying


Great looking Air France retrojet


And into the gate…



And so this part of the journey concluded. Time to spent an afternoon in Lisbon!

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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7659 times:

Sunday August 26th 2012
Swiss Flight LX2085
Lisbon Airport (LIS) – Zurich Airport (ZRH)
Airbus A320
Seat 2F


176th overall flight
11th flight on Swiss
20th flight on an Airbus A320 (47th flight on an Airbus A320 Series)
2nd visit to LIS and 13th visit to ZRH
1st time flying the LIS-ZRH route

Departure Time (Scheduled/Actual): 14.45 / 15.27
Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 18.25 / 19.01
Block time (Scheduled / Actual): 2.40 / 2.34
Flight duration: 2 hours, 19 minutes
Mileage: 1073 nm

So I had a nice Saturday afternoon exploring the streets of Lisbon, and with my mid-day depature on Sunday I still had quite some time to spend in Lisbon on Sunday. I ended spending some time in the Parque Eduardo VII, a nice park overlooking parts of Lisbon. Added bonus from an A.netter point of view was the fact that aircraft on approach to LIS come straight over the park at already quite a low altitude. Afterwards I took the metro towards the airport, where the metro stations is conveniently located next to the terminal.
Interestingly enough, before you can could to the check-in desk there was a security fellow who wanted to see your tickets. Something that’s not quite common in Europe. No selfservice machines here for Swiss, so one had to go to the counter to check-in. Only one other passengers ahead of me, so I received my boarding passes quite quickly. There was a rather long queue for security, but fortunately I could of course the priority lane and I was through in no-time.

For Swiss passengers there are two lounges available in LIS. Firstly, there is the Lisbon Lounge which is operated by Portway, a Portugese handling company. Secondly there is the TAP Premium Lounge, from Star Alliance partner TAP. The latter has a very good reputation, so that’s where I went. And the lounge lived up to its reputation. It looked very modern and trendy, there was many different and interesting food options and a great wine and champagne selection. But the place was absolutely packed to the brim and it was very hard to find a seat. I also could not take many pictures of the lounge because of that too. After enjoying some time in the lounge, I decided to pay the other lounge a visit too. Although not as fancy as the TAP, quite enjoyable none the less with comfortable seating, a decent selection and a full bar too.

Arriving at Lisbon Portela Airport


Todays Partidas


One of the check-in areas, LX is located to left


A quick view of the apron…


… before heading to the TAP Lounge…


Slide show in the TAP lounge, featuring pictures from our beloved A.net!


And also wanted to feel so special, so a visit to the Lisbon Lounge was also in order



At 30 minutes before scheduled departure I figured it would be time to head to the gate. When I arrived there, to my surprise, the aircraft wasn’t there yet even though boarding should have begun. No delays were announced on the FIDS yet. I asked the two agents at the gate and they informed that the aircraft was underway, and that a delay of about 20 minutes was expected. I decided to return to the lounge, and told this to the agent. Keeping in mind a 20 minute delayed, I wanted to leave the lounge at 25 minutes before the new STD. As I headed towards the exit, the lounge agent asked me “You are going to Zurich right? The gate has just called me that boarding will probably start at 3 o’clock and they will call me when they start boarding. So just sit tight”. Great service here.

And after about 10 minutes I was called, and the lounge agent informed me that boarding had begun. I made my way to the lounge and noticed that the gate area was almost empty already. The gate recognized me, smiled and gave me a thumps up, and then scanned my boarding pass. Only a few people were left in the jetbridge, and I was the last to board. Boarding was completed at 15.13, almost 30 minutes after the scheduled departure time.
The captain came on the PA with a detailed apology for the delay: there were some strong winds at Zurich, which caused the runways to be changed just when the flight to Lisbon was going to depart. And it was extra busy at ZRH because of the end of the holiday season. We would now have to wait another 5 to 10 minutes for our new slot, but because of expected tailwinds the delay would in the end be about 30 minutes. Meanwhile, newspapers, bottles of waters and refreshing towels distributed in the business class cabin.

There was no aircraft yet the first I went to the gate


That’s better!


Some fuel, please


Bottle of water and refreshing towel


Nice reflection


A beautiful day in Lisbon made for some great views after departure






Quickly after departure the service began. The business class cabin was served by the Maitre de Cabin and an additional FA. Service was from the back to the front this time. No menus, but there were two choices here which was individually explained to all passengers by the Maitre de Cabin. Choice a chicken dish or a tortellini with cheese cream sauce, which came highly recommended by the Maitre de Cabin. Although I am usually not a big fan of cheese sauces I decided to follow his recommendation and I was not disappointed. Although the amount was less than on the Lufthansa flights, the presentation here with Swiss was superb and it tasted absolutely delicious. Great job Siwss! With the meal service came to drinks rounds – where I opted for champagne – and afterwards coffee and tea were offered. Just before landing a glasses of water were distributed.

The meal service


Nice detail on the cutlery


Cruising over Spain and heading towards the Pyrenees







Over France the moon is already making its appearance. In the first picture Toulouse Airport (TLS) is also visible



As we got closer to Switzerland and Zurich some great views of the Alps and the lush Swiss landscape was offered







And things got a bit bumpy as we descended towards Zurich Airport. Some angry looking clouds were visible, and the earlier mentioned strong winds also didn’t help







Touchdown with a view of the E Dock, the remote gates at ZRH


Passing by the new B terminal, with two Air Berlin aircraft


And KLM and BA are also present, and a nice view of the iconic ZRH terminal building


Sunday August 26th 2012
Swiss Flight LX1734
Zurich Airport (ZRH) – Rome Fiumicino Airport (ZRH)
Airbus A320
Seat 1F


177th overall flight
12th flight on Swiss
21st flight on an Airbus A320 (48th flight on an Airbus A320 Series)
14th visit to ZRH and 1st visit to FCO
1st time flying the LIS-ZRH route

Departure Time (Scheduled/Actual): 20.40 / 21.12
Arrival Time (Scheduled/Actual): 22.10 / 22.29
Block time (Scheduled / Actual): 1.30 / 1.17
Flight duration: 59 minutes
Mileage: 413 nm

In the arrived at Zurich Airport with a delay just over 35 minutes. As I had been to Zurich many times before and I was quite eager to visit the Swiss lounge I immediately headed there. And although I was not disappointed I did expect a little bit more of it. Sure, it was very nicely decorated, many choices of dranks (and ice cream!) the food was a bit disappointing, especially compared to the offers in the LH lounge. And the supposedly world’s longest bar? I bet that’s just an advertisement, I think I’ve seen longer ones. Anyway, I still enjoyed my time in the lounge and even had a some extra time there as I noticed that my flight to Rome was showing a 30 minute delay. In fact, most Swiss flights that evening were delayed between 30 to 60 minutes, I guess the weather issues earlier that took its toll on Swiss’ operation that day.

Quick view of the LX lounge



A nice soup, and a glass of good wine


Ice cream! And some coffee, which was needed, as I have to admit I was started to get a bit tipsy after all the champagne in Lisbon, on board the LIS-ZRH flight and the wine here in the lounge



At 20.40, the originally scheduled departure time I headed toward, only a five minute walk in the older A pier. When I arrived, I heard the gate announcement that boarding would begin shortly. And immediately a mob ensued, one you can only flights to and from Italy. Basically everyone just rushed to the gate area and to the poor agents. And may I remind, boarding hadn’t even begun.

So a few minutes later boarding did begun and first business class passengers and status pax were asked to board. This was enforced quite thoroughly by the agents. Even though the entire aircraft tried to board at this time, many were sent away as there were not boarding Economy. Good job here by the ground staff. I was among the first to enter the aircraft, where a bottle of water and a refreshing towel were once again waiting for me. After boarding was completed the captain on the PA announcing that we should get underway soon for a flight of about 1 hour routing Zurich-Milan-Pisa and then straight into Rome. It would be cloudy above the Alps, but clear skies above the Italy. Because of the short flight time and favorable conditions getting into Rome, the captain hoped to make up some of the delay along the way.

Quick view of the apron, Swiss of course the major player here


My aircraft to Rome, another A320


All aboard! This picture was actually when the announcement was made that boarding would begin in a few minutes. Imagine how the crowd looked when boarding did begin


Quite some legroom for this young gentleman



Pushback was at 21.12 indeed, just a little over 30 minutes. A brief taxi, and no other aircraft in line for departure we were up in the skies quickly. At first views were limited because of the announced clouds, but indeed, once we cleared the Alps most of the clouds disappeared and there was a good view of the dark landscape down below. It was easy to make out the coastline, and in the fair distance even the lights of the island of Corsica could be seen.

Great service again also here by Swiss. A light meal was served, an excellent tasting and very well presented cold rice dish with chicken. Very attentive crew again, including a very friendly Maitre de Cabin who engaged me about the three different red wine choices she had and which one would go best with the meal. I ended up going for a Swiss wine, I mean I am flying Swiss afterall. Also worth noting is that the she spoke English, French and German without an accent in all her announcement – I honestly would not be able to tell which one would have been her native language.

Very tasty and well-presented meal. Great job again by Swiss!



Time flew by – literally. I was still enjoying my glass of wine when the initial descent began. The captain announced that he expected to be at the gate at around 22.30, which was only 20 minutes late. The landing at Rome was extremely smooth, one of the smoothest I had all year I would think. Flying time in the end was 59 minutes, which is a short for a flight that is blocked at 1 hour and 30 minutes. I was among the first to leave the plane, I bid the crew farewell and thanked them for their enjoyable service and headed to my airport hotel.

The routing of the flight. Excuse the lack of further pictures, as it was dark outside and my camera doesn’t do night-pictures all that well


That’s it folks! Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed reading about these flights as much as I enjoyed flying them. Comments and remarks are of course duly appreciated!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7498 times:

Hey Robert  

Great report and nice to see LX still performs well on EU J Class. The meals really set LX from their owners thats for sure although LH seems to have changed into a more LX style with the hot meals.

Anyway great pics of ZRH . Always a pleasant hub to see.  

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Question, what is the pink thing on the LH meal tray?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6872 times:

Hi Robert,

interesting C Class report, the meals look excellent on all sectors IMO.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
It basically tells you how I ended up in Stockholm Arlanda (ARN) from where I needed to ‘burn’ some Miles&More frequent flier miles on an intra-Europe roundtrip.

Were the miles due to expire?

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
He suspected, that row 1 (which only have an A and C seat) was held by Lufthansa for their frequent flyers.

Just recently I booked an award ticket and was able to choose row 1 without having any status.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
The aircraft that would take me to Lisbon, another A321.

Well, it's a -100 series, not too many of them around in comparison to the -200.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6602 times:

Hey Robert, great report there, well written and photos with excellent quality.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Jumbo Hostel

I am eager to try that one, too!

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Although once your inside your room you don’t really notice anymore you’re in an old 747

Did your room have a window? If yes, is it still a normal airplane window?

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
The blocked middle seat and the unoccupied aisle seat.

Could you remove the table in the middle seat? I think if I had a row for myself I would have preferred to stretch out over all three seats with my long legs.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Slide show in the TAP lounge, featuring pictures from our beloved A.net!

Were only a.net pics shown or from other sites as well?

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Nice detail on the cutlery

Was is branded? With a Swiss Logo or anything? I remember in the old days when even Y class pax were getting real cuttlery. I still have some cuttlery at home from LH, TG and even DE, all branded with their logos. These were the times! And as a kid I was allowed to take it home most of the time. ^^


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6555 times:

Hi Robert - interesting read and routing there. LH look pretty good in business as do LX. Hoping to save up enough air miles to try them out myself. Lisbon looks like a good city too - at least from the air! Hopefully I can get some similar shots myself in a couple of weeks.


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User currently offlineeco From Bulgaria, joined Nov 2010, 84 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Hi Robert,
Nice report including one of my favorite airlines - Swiss.

Thanks for sharing,


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6116 times:

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Great report and nice to see LX still performs well on EU J Class.

Thanks, and ideed - I was duly impressed with Swiss!

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 3):
Question, what is the pink thing on the LH meal tray?

It's a pipette with rose syrup, to sprinkle the cheese with.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Were the miles due to expire?

Yup! Not all of them though, but I realise I wouldn't fly enough * carriers to recollect enough to buy an anward later on

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Just recently I booked an award ticket and was able to choose row 1 without having any status.

Perhaps it is reserved for all LH passengers. I had to check in with SK and via the SK website, and LH might only allow their own staff or systems to select those seats. Or they have changed it by now, it's been 6 months since the trip after all!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
interesting C Class report, the meals look excellent on all sectors IMO

Indeed, everything was very tasty!

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
Hey Robert, great report there, well written and photos with excellent quality.

Thanks Carsten!

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
Did your room have a window? If yes, is it still a normal airplane window?

It sure did! Just google for Jumbo Hostel with Google Images and you'll find some pictures of the interior.

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
Could you remove the table in the middle seat? I think if I had a row for myself I would have preferred to stretch out over all three seats with my long legs.

Didn't try - I had plenty of room anyway.

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
Were only a.net pics shown or from other sites as well?

Only A.net as far as I could tell.

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
Was is branded? With a Swiss Logo or anything?

Yeah, a small Swiss logo. I now realise you can't really see it the smaller sized pictures.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 6):
LH look pretty good in business as do LX. Hoping to save up enough air miles to try them out myself.

'Only' 25.000 miles when using their Promo Awards!

Quoting eco (Reply 7):
Nice report including one of my favorite airlines - Swiss.

Thanks for sharing

Thanks and you are welcome!


User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3219 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

Nice report Robert! Good routing to use up your miles.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Breakfast in the sky.

Looks quite good. The main dish loked quite sweet.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
The views of downtown Frankfurt are pretty amazing when landing on this runway

I'm always amazed how small Frankfurt is, given the size and importance of the airport. I flew into LHR a few hours ago...London just goes on for ever. Frankfurt is like a suburban English town!

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
I chose the braised beef with polenta, which tasted excellent. Especially the beef was very well braised and was delicious. The other items were also good, except for the fennel and olive salad, but that’s more of a personal taste – not such a big fan of olives. And the bread was a bit dry

That is a wierd looking meal. And what's with that rose syrup in the pipette?!!! Bizarre.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
which came highly recommended by the Maitre de Cabin

Ha, I think they usually "highly reccommend" a dish that they know no-one wants to pick!

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
And the supposedly world’s longest bar? I bet that’s just an advertisement, I think I’ve seen longer ones.

The devil is in the detail. I believe its the World's longest manned airport bar. There is a longer bar in HKG, but it's self service. And also probably lots of other longer bars that are not in airports.



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User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5460 times:

ahhh .... good old D-AIRY

dont know if you have seen the cartoon mouse just beside the registration. That plane was once featured on a German children TV series when they followed the production of that particular frame through the Airbus factory ... later it got that mouse mascot painted on it.

PHILIP



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Hey, R.,

great pictures and also well done story.
Sure intersting to follow these Biz comparison.
LX suits me better, you know!.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6548 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

Hi !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

Flights look very nice and great to see pictures from Sweden in the summertime! (I was just there two weeks ago...)

Very impressive meal on LH and LX for such short flights!

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Hello Robert

Interesting read, thanks for sharing! Meals do look great in all classes.
Great service of the LIS lounge as well. But at the end of the ride? which one was the best LH or LX?

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Hello all, thanks for the comments!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):

Nice report Robert!

Thanks!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
The main dish loked quite sweet.

It was, but very tasty!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
That is a wierd looking meal. And what's with that rose syrup in the pipette?!!! Bizarre.

Yeah, the pipette thing was weird. Didn't taste so good either. The beef was delicious though  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
Ha, I think they usually "highly reccommend" a dish that they know no-one wants to pick!
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
The devil is in the detail. I believe its the World's longest manned airport bar.

I guess I fell for it then!

Quoting photophil (Reply 10):

ahhh .... good old D-AIRY

dont know if you have seen the cartoon mouse just beside the registration. That plane was once featured on a German children TV series when they followed the production of that particular frame through the Airbus factory ... later it got that mouse mascot painted on it.

Yeah, I was wondering what was up with the mouse on the fuselage, so I remember the registration and later Googeled it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
great pictures and also well done story.
Sure intersting to follow these Biz comparison.
LX suits me better, you know!.

Thanks Markus!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

Flights look very nice and great to see pictures from Sweden in the summertime! (I was just there two weeks ago...)

Thanks... and yeah Sweden is lovely in summer!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 13):
Interesting read, thanks for sharing! Meals do look great in all classes.
Great service of the LIS lounge as well. But at the end of the ride? which one was the best LH or LX?

Thanks Marc! And I think I would go with LX in the end. Although LH had better lounges and better food in terms of quantity, I felt more at home at LX. LH was just a little too business friendly for my liking. And the food on LX was much better in terms of quality.


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1150 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4123 times:
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Hi Robert,

Great report with many nice pictures!
Good idea to burn up your miles on some long-ish intra europe flights in Business Class. Both LH and LX look good although I prefer LX a bit more myself, their presentation looks better IMHO
Lounges all look pretty good, although I agree with you that the SWISS lounge doesn't impress me all too much either.
Great approach and take-off pictures from LIS, you definetely got treated to some nice views!

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Finally a shot with some more aircraft in it, including a Boeing 737-600, of which SK is one of the few operators in Europe.

A type I still need to log!

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
When boarding was completed the captain on the FA

The captain was on the FA
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 1):
Slide show in the TAP lounge, featuring pictures from our beloved A.net!

Nice!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1680 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
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Hello Robert,

Very good report you made here on your all business class flights. Both LH and LX have a pretty decent product for short haul, I don't notice too much difference. Great pics with a decent size as well  

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
The blocked middle seat

I didn't know this seat was actually physically blocked or am I wrong?

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Flight time was announced as 2 hours and 50 minutes

That's quite lenghty.

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
In the last hour of the flight yet another drunk run was made.

Oops, everybody ordering alcohol all of a sudden   

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
Quite some legroom for this young gentleman

... with his fancy shoes  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Great report with many nice pictures!

Thanks Brendan!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Good idea to burn up your miles on some long-ish intra europe flights in Business Class. Both LH and LX look good although I prefer LX a bit more myself, their presentation looks better IMHO

Indeed, I would say LX was the better of the two!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
A type I still need to log!

Logged one in 2010, and another booked for this summer! Nice little birds, but pretty darn cramped!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
The captain was on the FA?
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 16):

Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
In the last hour of the flight yet another drunk run was made.

Oops, everybody ordering alcohol all of a sudden
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
Quoting roberts87 (Thread starter):
When boarding was completed the captain on the FA

The captain was on the FA

LOL, thanks for pointing out those funny typo's!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 16):
Very good report you made here on your all business class flights. Both LH and LX have a pretty decent product for short haul, I don't notice too much difference. Great pics with a decent size as well

Thanks Nils! I already thought you would be satisfied with the size of the pictures  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 16):
I didn't know this seat was actually physically blocked or am I wrong?

Not with al carriers, LH does it, BA too I think. KL and LX don't.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 16):

... with his fancy shoes  

  


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