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Flybe E175, Helvetic F100 & The Beauty Of Scotland  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15220 times:



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Intro
Where to go on honeymoon? In early 2012, my future wife and I took several destinations into consideration, but finally decided to make a tour around Scotland where we had always wanted to go on holiday. Finding a comprehensive one-week guided tour in June wasn't a problem, but flight options weren't overly attractive - and rather pricey. Well, the focus was on the destination this time, but the PlaneHunter can never rest entirely...  Wink

Finally, after searching for a while, I found a decent combo offered by Lufthansa: Munich-London-Edinburgh on Lufthansa and bmi and Birmingham-Zurich-Munich on Swiss (operated by Helvetic Airways) and Swiss European. What attracted me most was the flight on Helvetic Airways, an airline which was still missing in my log. Flybe offered a well-timed and decently priced "connecting flight" from Edinburgh to Birmingham, so it was time for action. While I booked the Lufthansa combo on Ebookers, I bought the Flybe tickets on that carrier's website.

Interestingly, the Flybe flight would be operated by an Embraer 175 - a type which I was planning to get for the first time six weeks before the Scotland trip. However, after that plan had failed (more details can be found here), the Scotland trip would suddenly bring a new type into my log as well.



Beautiful Scotland
After an eventless journey from Munich to Heathrow and onwards to Edinburgh on Lufthansa A319-112 D-AKNJ and bmi A319-131 G-DBCJ (two new registrations for my log), we checked in at the Hilton Airport and then took a public bus to the city to get some first impressions:





On the next morning, our guided tour started with an extended city tour. The majestic Edinburgh Castle atop the volcanic Castle Rock:

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From the castle you can enjoy great views over the city:







The temporary stands for the annual Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo:



What would Scotland be without tartan and bagpipe players?



In the afternoon, we continued to Glasgow where we took a city tour and visited the Glasgow Cathedral:





On the next day, we headed north in lovely weather and made a stop at Loch Lomond, the largest inland stretch of water in Great Britain (by surface area). What a great place to relax:



"...on the bonnie, bonnie banks o' Loch Lomond..."







Further up into the Highlands:





Welcome to Inveraray, a nice small town on the western shore of Loch Fyne:







This is the splendid Inveraray Castle, the seat of the Duke of Argyll, chief of Clan Campbell:



Later in the afternoon, we continued the picturesque journey through the Highlands:







This is my favorite picture taken during the tour - what a scenery:



After spending the night at a hotel in Fort William, a town near Ben Nevis which is the highest mountain in the British Isles, we made a day trip to the Isle of Skye. On the way to the port, we stopped at the Glenfinnan Monument, located at the head of Loch Shiel:


The monument was built to mark the place where Prince Charles Edward Stuart ("Bonnie Prince Charlie") raised his standard at the beginning of the 1745 Jacobite Rising, a series of rebellions and wars.

Loch Shiel:





The Glenfinnan Viaduct has been used as a location in several movies, including three films of the Harry Potter series:



Nice view over Loch Ailort:



Welcome to Mallaig, a port on the west coast of the Highlands:



Our ferry arriving from Armadale:





View from the highest deck:





"Over the Sea to Skye..."



The austere beauty of Skye:







This is the "harbor" of Portree, the largest town on Skye:







Back on the road...



Stunning scenery and a nice herd of Highland cattle:







After returning to the mainland via the Skye Bridge, we made a stop at the famous Eilean Donan Castle which is familiar from many photographs and appearances in film and television:





On the next morning, our first destination was Fort Augustus. The Caledonian Canal connecting Fort William to Inverness passes through Fort Augustus in a series of locks stepping down to Loch Ness:



How about a kayak tour?



The other side:



This is Urquhart Castle on the north shore of Loch Ness:









We tried hard, but couldn't see Nessie anywhere...





After the boat tour, we continued further north and visited Inverness:





Some miles east of Inverness, you find the field where the Battle of Culloden took place:


The battle was the final confrontation of the 1745 Jacobite Rising and the last battle fought on British soil. The devastating defeat of the Jacobites, led by Bonnie Prince Charlie, by the government forces led to wide-reaching consequences for highland life. The people weren't allowed to wear their tartans, playing bagpipe was prohibited by law and the clan system was destroyed…a dark chapter in Scotland's history.

Nice historic structure near Grantown on Spey:



The Craiglynne Hotel, our accommodation for one night, is located in a beautiful historic building close to Grantown on Spey:



On the next morning, we went to Aviemore...





...and enjoyed a short ride on a historic train:



Nice Business Class seating...  Wink



Place settings for the tea and shortbread service during the ride:



The steam locomotive after the ride:



I was told that these hard working guys are true train enthusiasts:



This is Cawdor Castle...



...which is known for its nice gardens:



Later in the afternoon, we visited a sheep farm and watched a herding dog show:



Cute, isn't it?



On the next morning, we headed south again. Some of our last impressions of the Highlands:





Lunch brake in a nice cafe in the small Victorian town of Pitlochry:



We had black tea and cake in style:



Then we visited the Edradour single malt whisky distillery, reputed to be the smallest legal distillery in Scotland:









The distillery's treasure hall:





1400 pounds for a bottle of whisky from 1968 - anyone?



Our excellent tour came to an end in the late afternoon when we arrived back in Edinburgh. This is the Forth Road Bridge...



...and this is the Forth Bridge which is often called the Forth Rail Bridge to distinguish it from the Forth Road Bridge:


After checking in online for our return flights on the next day, we went to a nice pub near our hotel and enjoyed the last evening in Scotland.

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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15399 times:

Saturday, June 2012
Edinburgh (EDI) - Birmingham (BHX)
Flybe BE842
Scheduled times: 08:55-10:10
Actual times: 08:59-09:59
Flight duration: 00:48 (hrs)
Distance: 251 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 21B

Embraer 175 (ERJ-170-200STD)
G-FBJC (MSN 17000328)
Delivered in 11/2011


1st flight on G-FBJC
1st Embraer 175 flight
10th E-Jet flight



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Early in the morning, we took a public bus to the airport and quickly checked in, using a kiosk. We selected seats in the second last row, printed our boarding passes and dropped our luggage off at a desk. 10 minutes later I could finally take a seat in the gate area and start spotting.

Loganair Saab 340 in Flybe colors - I definitely preferred the British Airways scheme on these aircraft:



Our plane arrived on time - it was G-FBJC, delivered in late 2011:



G-FBJC, one of nine frames in the fleet, looks really good from this perspective:



Finally it was time to walk to the aircraft. Interesting neighbor on the left:











Friendly welcome at the door and comfortable seats - definitely a good start:



Legroom was sufficient for this short sector:



We left the parking position slightly behind schedule...



...but took off without any further waiting time. Goodbye, Scotland!



Seat pocket contents:



Interesting magazines provided by "Europe's local airline" as Flybe calls itself:



Where's the Embraer 175?



Buy on board menu:



Since we had had breakfast at the airport, we weren't interested in Flybe's offerings:



The cabin was packed on this morning flight:



After a bumpy approach...



...we touched down hard after a flying time of 48 minutes and arrived at the gate 11 minutes ahead of schedule:



During disembarking, I quickly took a picture of this sign:


Landside spotting is not possible at Birmingham Airport, so we had to hang around in a restaurant until we could finally check in our luggage and go airside.

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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15387 times:

Saturday, June 2012
Birmingham (BHX) - Zurich (ZRH)
Swiss Int'l Air Lines LX423, operated by Helvetic Airways
Scheduled times: 13:40-16:25
Actual times: 13:50-16:37
Flight duration: 01:29 (hrs)
Distance: 573 miles
Economy Class, seat 18A

Fokker 100
HB-JVC (MSN 11501)
First delivered to American Airlines in 03/1994 as N1468A


1st flight on HB-JVC
5th Fokker 100 flight
6th Fokker 70/100 flight
139th airline



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Once airside, we went to the front end of the international pier where I enjoyed spotting for about two hours. Boeing 737-36N G-TOYL of no more existing bmi baby...


...taxied to a nearby gate and was prepared for a flight to Palma de Mallorca. A never-ending queue indicated that the flight was packed - and there were numerous, well, weird passengers, including a noisy bunch of people in the 20s and 30s heading to a bachelor party according to various slogans on their t-shirts...I would have loved to try bmi baby before its demise, but I guess I wouldn't have enjoyed this particular flight.  Wink

Not surprisingly, Emirates Boeing 777-31HER A6-EBH was by far the largest aircraft showing up:



Thomas Cook Boeing 757-25F G-FCLD:



KLM Cityhopper Embraer 190 PH-EZX in Skyteam colors:



Star Alliance stroke back with bmi A320-232 G-MIDX:


Good old G-MIDX flew me from Heathrow to Vienna when it still wore the classic Star Alliance scheme:
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100 (by PlaneHunter Dec 25 2010 in Trip Reports)

Rivals side by side:



And here's our plane, Helvetic's HB-JVC, the youngest frame in the six-strong Fokker 100 fleet:







Boarding commenced on time and I was surprised to see that the captain - a remarkably tanned man in the late 50s with white hair - had joined a female flight attendant in order to welcome the passengers. "Grüezi!", he replied after I had greeted them in German.

The cabin was in immaculate condition, the old-style seats were comfortable enough...



...and there was an impressive amount of legroom:



Right in between the engine and the wing - the enthusiast's most preferred seat location on the Fokker 100:



It's not a GE90, but better than nothing:  Wink



We left the gate 10 minutes behind schedule and the captain made a nice welcome announcement during taxi. He was quite talkative and gave lots of details about the flight. Later during the flight, he also gave some updates. That guy appeared to be a truly enthusiastic pilot!  thumbsup 

Nice line-up, with the 77W sticking out:



Turning onto runway 15:



Goodbye, Birmingham!









Can you see Coventry Airport?



Let's start the seat pocket exploration:



Inflight magazine and shopping guide:



The most interesting page...



...with obvious mistakes:


Swiss operates just six A321-100s and one A321-200 - and some range figures aren't correct either. Let's just have a look at the A330-300 - it can certainly fly much farther with full payload! Otherwise the airline's Miami operations alone would cause some headaches...  Wink

Channel crossing:



The friendly flight attendants served cold and hot drinks and distributed fresh and tasty baguette sandwiches with high-quality ham:



Healthy load on this afternoon flight:



Just before descent commenced, the flight attendants passed through the cabin with Swiss' famous chocolate bites. I liked the old red packaging better, though:



The weather was still lovely on approach to Zurich:







We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 29 minutes and arrived at the gate slightly late:



As soon as the plane had reached its final parking position, a maintenance car showed up and a mechanic started working on the wingtip:


Our connecting flight to Munich was scheduled to depart at 19:20, but an intense thunderstorm brought all operations to a halt and we finally left the gate almost 40 minutes late. The flight on Swiss European Avro RJ100 HB-IYR (new registration for me) was very bumpy, but we were able to avoid spilling our drinks.  Wink

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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15362 times:

Conclusion
The flight on Helvetic Airways was the most enjoyable one on that journey. A Fokker 100 in immaculate condition, good seating comfort, friendly flight attendants, an enthusiastic captain and Swiss' good catering - what else can you ask for on a 1.5 hour flight? I also liked the short hop on Flybe - decent seating comfort and friendly staff are not granted on low-cost carriers in these days. As for Scotland - it's a fascinating country with fantastic landscapes and friendly people - I can only recommend to spend a vacation there.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15068 times:

After this I want to go to Scotland.

You seem to have had good weather.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15048 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
After this I want to go to Scotland.

That's nice to hear. I can only recommend to do so!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
You seem to have had good weather.

Yes, we had lovely weather on some days, but also experienced all different kinds of rain. It's unpredictable, luck is what you need.

Thanks for commenting.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1682 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15029 times:

Normally I would comment on the flight, but this is one remarkable trip! Except for the train tour and the hotel you stayed, I have been at ALL the places in Scotland you've shown in this report. It was a very awkward read for me. It makes me feel like going back to this wonderful country instantly!
From the city of Edinburgh to Skye, and from Culloden Moor Battlefield to the very nice distillery of Edradour, one of 2 places in the world where they sell 'House of Lords' whisky, it is all simply stunning! The pictures of Protree, the CalMac ferries who serve almost if not all the connections to all the islands, I love it!
You really hit my weak spot with this report!

Thank you very very much for this!
Now i'm off to convince my GF that Scotland is the way to go 

I'll grab a nice Single Malt Scottish Whisky tonight!



flown on : F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,E75,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,753,744,319,320,321,333,AB6.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14995 times:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
Normally I would comment on the flight, but this is one remarkable trip! Except for the train tour and the hotel you stayed, I have been at ALL the places in Scotland you've shown in this report. It was a very awkward read for me. It makes me feel like going back to this wonderful country instantly!

That's great to hear! It's indeed a wonderful country.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
From the city of Edinburgh to Skye, and from Culloden Moor Battlefield to the very nice distillery of Edradour, one of 2 places in the world where they sell 'House of Lords' whisky, it is all simply stunning! The pictures of Protree, the CalMac ferries who serve almost if not all the connections to all the islands, I love it!
You really hit my weak spot with this report!

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
Thank you very very much for this!

My pleasure. Thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
Now i'm off to convince my GF that Scotland is the way to go

Sure! I can tell you it's a great honeymoon destination.  

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
I'll grab a nice Single Malt Scottish Whisky tonight!

Cheers!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14960 times:

Hola PH!

Great report with lovely pictures from your honeymoon in Scotland! Really crisp, you were as well really lucky with the weather. I have been twice to Scotland and both times rain was present at most of the places you visited, I remember Mallaig and the Isle of Skye as very rainy, nonetheless a great place to visit.

As you mentioned in the introduction it is more about the Scottish scenery, which I find astonishing and magic, than flying.

I have found a great coincidence:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
The flight on Swiss European Avro RJ100 HB-IYR (new registration for me)

That very plane was my first Avro flight BCN-BSL some years ago.

I love as well the old-looking cabin of those Fokkers, and yes! the amount of legroom is impressive... I had this same feeling when fling them ZRH-BUD.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14940 times:

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
Great report with lovely pictures from your honeymoon in Scotland!

Hola Roger! Many thanks for your comments! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
Really crisp, you were as well really lucky with the weather.

Oh yes, we were prepared for the worst, but it turned out great.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
I have been twice to Scotland and both times rain was present at most of the places you visited, I remember Mallaig and the Isle of Skye as very rainy, nonetheless a great place to visit.

Sometimes I really enjoyed the rainy weather, e.g. when we visited the mystic Loch Ness.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
As you mentioned in the introduction it is more about the Scottish scenery, which I find astonishing and magic, than flying.

  

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
That very plane was my first Avro flight BCN-BSL some years ago.

Nice!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
I love as well the old-looking cabin of those Fokkers, and yes! the amount of legroom is impressive... I had this same feeling when fling them ZRH-BUD.

I hope that those Fokkers will continue to operate for Swiss for a while.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14812 times:

Hi PlaneHunter!

Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Your pictures from Scotland and the highlands are fantastic! Really makes me want to go there, probably some day I will. Very, very scenic! I have been to Edinburgh and that was a great place to visit.

Flights look okay; nice for you to get two new airlines and especially Helvetic looks very good. Great legroom!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Emirates Boeing 777-31HER A6-EBH was by far the largest aircraft showing up:

Gotta-have-a-777-in-a-trip-report  

Very much looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14792 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Hi Lars, thank you very much for your comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Your pictures from Scotland and the highlands are fantastic!

Many thanks! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Really makes me want to go there, probably some day I will. Very, very scenic!

Yes, I can only recommend to visit the Highlands.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
I have been to Edinburgh and that was a great place to visit.

True, it's a very nice city.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Flights look okay; nice for you to get two new airlines and especially Helvetic looks very good. Great legroom!

Only Helvetic was a new airline for me - but the E175 was a new type for my log.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Gotta-have-a-777-in-a-trip-report

I fear there won't be one in the next report.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Very much looking forward to your next report!

That will be about my weekend trip to Romania.


PH



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14783 times:
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Hi PH,

Great report, loved the pictures of Scotland, some truly stunning pictures taken, superb!

I travel to Scotland loads for work, love the scenery, especially the driver from Inverness to Edinburgh, wonderful views - I need to take a holiday there and enjoy it for real like you did.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Landside spotting is not possible at Birmingham Airport, so we had to hang around in a restaurant until we could finally check in our luggage and go airside.

- There used to be a big glassed area by the car rental counter area, had great views of the aprons and runway, guess that is gone?



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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14658 times:
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Hi Planehunter

Thanks for the detailed trip report. Working in the tourism industry in Scotland it's great to see the country from a 'customers' perspective  

Out of interest which tour guide did you tour with in Scotland or did you go solo?

Sandyb123



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14626 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 12):
Great report, loved the pictures of Scotland, some truly stunning pictures taken, superb!

Hi Mark, thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 12):
I travel to Scotland loads for work, love the scenery, especially the driver from Inverness to Edinburgh, wonderful views - I need to take a holiday there and enjoy it for real like you did.

Yes, that would be worth it. And there are many more nice places in Scotland.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 12):
- There used to be a big glassed area by the car rental counter area, had great views of the aprons and runway, guess that is gone?

I didn't see such a place, probably it's really gone.

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 13):
Thanks for the detailed trip report. Working in the tourism industry in Scotland it's great to see the country from a 'customers' perspective

Thank you for your comments, good to hear!

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 13):
Out of interest which tour guide did you tour with in Scotland or did you go solo?

It was a guided tour called "Beautiful Scotland" offered by Dertour.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineflyboy22 From Canada, joined Nov 2012, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14507 times:

Wow, great trip report! Stunning photography and a nice documentation overall. Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14394 times:

Hi PH!

Nice trip report as usual, and good to see some pictures from Scotland, which I'd like to visit some day, and also good to see some of BHX, I've been eyeing a flight there for a while, let's see if I'll end up booking it now.  
The F100 did indeed look very nice, I should get around flying an F70 or F100 before it's too late.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We tried hard, but couldn't see Nessie anywhere...

Would have been cool if you did!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During disembarking, I quickly took a picture of this sign:

Nice touch, I'd guess they will have ads there at some point of time when the E75 isn't "new" anymore.

Martin


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14390 times:

Hi PH, glad to see the long-awaited Scotland TR out! Your lovely photos of Scotland brought tears of nostalgia in my eyes. So many good memories from this great country. I'm pleased to hear that you enjoyed your time there (it seems like you were lucky as far as the weather is concerned). My only objection is that you didn't visit St.Andrews. I would have loved to see some photos from my home of several years. Maybe next time  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Early in the morning, we took a public bus to the airport and quickly checked in, using a kiosk. We selected seats in the second last row, printed our boarding passes and dropped our luggage off at a desk. 10 minutes later I could finally take a seat in the gate area and start spotting.

Ah, the famous Airport Bus. You have no idea how much money I spent on that thing over the years. I was a very regular costumer back in the day,  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
And here's our plane, Helvetic's HB-JVC, the youngest frame in the six-strong Fokker 100 fleet:

I've never been to Birmingham Airport (only the one in Alabama, ) but my sister was based there for a couple of years and she was flying with Helvetic all the time (back when they had the pink/fuxia color scheme). She was very pleased with the service which is why she kept flying with them.

Also FlyBe's service doesn't seem to have changed much in the last few years. I flew them a couple of times (from/to EDI) and had a similar experience to yours.

Let me thank you again for this lovely report. You re-ignited my desire to go back to Scotland.   

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2417 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14358 times:

Sounds great - but unfortunately, I can't see a single picture, always the same error:

While trying to retrieve the requested URL the following error was encountered:
Read Error
The system returned: (104) Connection reset by peer


User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1091 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14146 times:

Hi PH,

What a thrill to read this report. I think I had already mentioned to you that you were in very close vicinity to where I live, especially around Inverness and the Rest-and-Be-Thankful.

I thought it was original (and brave... because of the weather) of you to choose Scotland as your honeymoon destination. How refreshing, and it paid good dividends.

Scotland's tourist board has alot to answer for in it's lackluster promotion of the country - I wish you might go and work for them.

How did you find the food? Did you try deep fried pizza?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What would Scotland be without tartan and bagpipe players?

It is what laderhosen are to the Bavarians I s'pose!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
As for Scotland - it's a fascinating country with fantastic landscapes and friendly people - I can only recommend to spend a vacation there.

 

Aviation-wise, I had really nice flights with Flybe recently, they fit the UK domestic business demand quite well and are a good fit for Scottish operations. I do feel though that aviation is fairly stagnant in north UK... stagnant, or steady. We all hope for a second gulf-link to EDI/ GLA to help boost tourism too...

Anyway U, congrats on a marvelous report and a happy start to a long life of marriage.

Luke



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14035 times:

Quoting flyboy22 (Reply 15):
Wow, great trip report! Stunning photography and a nice documentation overall. Thanks for sharing!

Hi flyboy22, thanks for your comments! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
Nice trip report as usual, and good to see some pictures from Scotland, which I'd like to visit some day, and also good to see some of BHX, I've been eyeing a flight there for a while, let's see if I'll end up booking it now.

Thanks for leaving a reply, Martin! I can only recommend to visit Scotland and the Highlands in particular. BHX was okay, but nothing special.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
The F100 did indeed look very nice, I should get around flying an F70 or F100 before it's too late.

Sure, give it a try. Helvetic's operations for Swiss are quite stable (no frequent changes) and there are KL and OS, of course.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
Would have been cool if you did!

Absolutely!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
Nice touch, I'd guess they will have ads there at some point of time when the E75 isn't "new" anymore.

The question is how they define "new"...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
Hi PH, glad to see the long-awaited Scotland TR out! Your lovely photos of Scotland brought tears of nostalgia in my eyes. So many good memories from this great country.

Hi Widebodyroga, thank you so much for your nice comments! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
I'm pleased to hear that you enjoyed your time there (it seems like you were lucky as far as the weather is concerned).

Yes, we were indeed lucky.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
My only objection is that you didn't visit St.Andrews. I would have loved to see some photos from my home of several years. Maybe next time

Sure, I want to see some new places next time.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
Ah, the famous Airport Bus. You have no idea how much money I spent on that thing over the years. I was a very regular costumer back in the day,

It's a very convenient service.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
I've never been to Birmingham Airport (only the one in Alabama, ) but my sister was based there for a couple of years and she was flying with Helvetic all the time (back when they had the pink/fuxia color scheme). She was very pleased with the service which is why she kept flying with them.

Good to hear - I wish they still had the pink scheme.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
Also FlyBe's service doesn't seem to have changed much in the last few years. I flew them a couple of times (from/to EDI) and had a similar experience to yours.

It's a decent carrier - currently facing some problems, though.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 17):
Let me thank you again for this lovely report. You re-ignited my desire to go back to Scotland.

That's great to hear!

Quoting debonair (Reply 18):
Sounds great - but unfortunately, I can't see a single picture, always the same error:

That's very odd - everything looks normal. Did you try with different browsers?

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
What a thrill to read this report. I think I had already mentioned to you that you were in very close vicinity to where I live, especially around Inverness and the Rest-and-Be-Thankful.

Hi Luke, thank you very much for your feedback! I was really curious to hear your opinion.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
I thought it was original (and brave... because of the weather) of you to choose Scotland as your honeymoon destination. How refreshing, and it paid good dividends.

Absolutely, great choice! But I know it was a bit risky.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Scotland's tourist board has alot to answer for in it's lackluster promotion of the country - I wish you might go and work for them.

I'm open to offers...  

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
How did you find the food? Did you try deep fried pizza?

The food was okay, we mostly ate in the hotels. I didn't try Haggis, though.   What is it about that pizza?

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
It is what laderhosen are to the Bavarians I s'pose!

More or less, yes.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Aviation-wise, I had really nice flights with Flybe recently, they fit the UK domestic business demand quite well and are a good fit for Scottish operations.

Yes, they offer lots of flights from Scotland.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
I do feel though that aviation is fairly stagnant in north UK... stagnant, or steady. We all hope for a second gulf-link to EDI/ GLA to help boost tourism too...

Probably just a matter of time.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Anyway U, congrats on a marvelous report and a happy start to a long life of marriage.

Many thanks, Luke! I'm glad that you enjoyed it!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2417 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13933 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
That's very odd - everything looks normal. Did you try with different browsers?

Very strange, now it's up and running...

Congrats to your marriage!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13888 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
Very strange, now it's up and running...

Good to hear!

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
Congrats to your marriage!

Thanks a lot!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2319 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13858 times:

Hi PH,

havent posted in this part of the forum for a while, been busy with assignments (you know how that goes...) great report again! Really enjoyed reading it! Though I did notice that on the Helvetic flight they took off with no flaps extended, quite interesting, didnt know the F100 could take off without them extended, but hey, you learn something new everyday  . Again thanks for sharing this report, looking forward to the next. Not sure when my next one will be, but we'll see...  



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13832 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 23):
havent posted in this part of the forum for a while, been busy with assignments (you know how that goes...) great report again! Really enjoyed reading it!

Hi Yvan, many thanks for leaving a reply! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 23):
Though I did notice that on the Helvetic flight they took off with no flaps extended, quite interesting, didnt know the F100 could take off without them extended, but hey, you learn something new everyday

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that either.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 23):
Again thanks for sharing this report, looking forward to the next.

Just started working on it...it will feature two nice Romanian and airlines and an Hungarian one as well as two rare types.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 23):
Not sure when my next one will be, but we'll see...

Take your time!


PH



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25 Post contains images OA260 : Hey Udo Very nice report and lovely pictures of Scotland. Id love to do the Islands sometime. Never get around to it despite being just a short flight
26 PlaneHunter : Hi Philip, thanks a lot for your comments! You should really visit the area, it's worth it. Thank you very much! PH
27 CARST : Okay... this is a FANTASTIC report. Just because I love the photos. I love reports which show the destination in all its gloury, because it gives me
28 Post contains links lukeyboy95 : Haha... wel you saw a beautifu slice of the country. The general rule is the further west you go, the more beautiful and remote, so maybe sector in t
29 PlaneHunter : Hi Carsten, thanks for your feedback! Yes, you should indeed add two or three days to visit the Highlands. It's a whole different world up there. Abs
30 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi PH! Another fantastic report with many great pictures! Looks like you enjoyed your honeymoon trip, Scotland is for sure a VERY beautiful country Fl
31 Post contains images Sultanils : Hello PlaneHunter, Once again many thanks for this very nice report! Congrats on your wedding as well and may you both have a wonderful and prosperous
32 Post contains images SloAir : Hi PH, another great report with beautiful pictures from Scotland and as one user pointed out before me: I also got the same feeling, I've also been t
33 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Thank you very much, Brendan! Good to hear you enjoyed it. Absolutely, time flew by during that week. Hi Nils, thanks a lot for your comments! Thank
34 jwhite9185 : Hi there PH - looks like you got a rare bit of sunshine in your trip to Scotland! Very scenic pictures there. I'm planning on doing the BHX-EDI run wi
35 PlaneHunter : Hi James, thanks for your comments! I flew on BE's DH4 some years ago and it was okay, but I definitely prefer the E-Jets. There are still some big o
36 CaptainRed : Hello PH, wonderful report, the pictures of Scotland are truly fascinating, really stunning scenery. I have been to Edinburgh once, but never had the
37 PlaneHunter : Hi CaptainRed, many thanks for your nice comments! Good to hear you liked it. Yes, I can only recommend that. No doubt about that, it's one of the be
38 roberts87 : Excellent report Udo! Some fantastic pictures of Scotland, such a beautiful country indeed. Edinburgh is an amazing city with quite a lot of charme, a
39 FLIEGER67 : Hey, PH, such a number of great location pictures, well done. These tour looks like the perfect way to start a new part of life. Also the Helvetic leg
40 767747 : Thank you, PH for your amazing report! You've once again set the bar for great trip reports! Scotland looks amazing, and while I've been to England se
41 Post contains images Quokkas : Hi PH, Congratulations on your recent marriage. I hope that you and the good lady will enjoy many happy years together. What a beautiful destination f
42 Post contains images infodesk : Hi PH, What a super, super report! Your photos of your time are Scotland are really excellent, I so enjoyed looking at them. How lucky were you both w
43 Eurohub : The first floor of that former area is now the "one terminal" combined departures security area and the ground floor is the "one terminal" exit to la
44 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Robert, thanks for your comments! Good to hear! Absolutely, I hope they will continue to operate for LX for a while. Definitely miles ahead of FR
45 MSS658 : Hello PH First of all it is great reading another report from you. I've been to Scotland once and can only reccomend the great scenery and the interes
46 Knightsofmalta : Hi Udo What lovely pictures you took of Scotland, absolutely stunning. I'm quite surprised to see it being so sunny there. My impression of Sctoland i
47 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Thanks for your feedback, Marc! Well said, I can only agree. Well, the number of E175s continues to grow quickly. In terms of orders, the E175 is sec
48 Post contains images eastafspot : Excellent and very informative trip report, i was waiting for it and i have enjoyed it intensively as it brings back good memories. Scotland is a must
49 Eurohub : As nice as they look, that is a second class carriage and not even first class! The 2+1 seating is commonly assumed to be first class but that is an
50 gabrielchew : Lovely photos of Scotland....you were so lucky! Looks like your flights home to Germany were pretty good too. Thanks for honeymooning in the UK!
51 hoons90 : As always, excellent trip report! It was an enjoyable read and the pictures were very relaxing. Congratulations! Oooh... ex-LH Italia! You have captur
52 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Léonard, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you liked it. When did you go there? Absolutely Yes, it was really enjoyable. It's the E175 whic
53 abrelosojos : PH, Your honeymoon pictures look absolutely stunning. Wow. I was blown away by the sights, and think they did justice to an amazing time I am sure. Th
54 PlaneHunter : Hi Alex, thanks a lot for your comments! Good to hear you liked it. No doubt about that. Good to hear! But be warned, it can become really wet. You n
55 Post contains images akhmad : Dear PH, Snow, snow and another snow! One may think that Northern UK has become new Lapland. Luckily, your honeymoon trip report proves the otherwise!
56 palmjet : Hello PH I read this report some time ago and thought I had left a comment - but clearly not. Apologies for that. What an amazing time you guys must h
57 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Suryo! Thank you very much for your comments. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sorry for my late reply! It's a marvelous country! No, it was a bus tour. Y
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