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KLM, Business Class - E-190: Amsterdam To Heathrow  
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22740 times:

INTRODUCTION

It’s 07h30 in the morning on Maundy Thursday. I’ve just arrived in Amsterdam on a KLM MD-11 from Montreal. I’ve decided to make the most of the long Easter weekend and visit Toledo in Spain. Of course the easiest thing to do would have been to catch a direct flight from Amsterdam to Madrid either by Iberia, Air Europa or KLM. But I’ve decided to go for something a bit more substantial, shall we say.

My first stop will be London’s Heathrow airport. The flight to Heathrow will not be leaving until later on in the afternoon. So I make my way to the luggage deposit area in the basement of Schiphol airport. Access to the area is via a lift or stairs located between arrivals halls 2 and 3. For one day of storage the charge is EUR 7.- for a mid-sized locker and EUR 9.- for a large sized locker.

With my luggage safely stored I head into town for breakfast at De Bakerswinkel. It’s a lovely bakery on the fringe of the seedier part of town, but don’t let that put you off. After breakfast I head for the botanical gardens. I need to walk and move a bit after spending 7 hours on the plane from Montreal.

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It’s a nice day here in Amsterdam. But it’s much colder than it was in Montreal.

Airline: KLM City Hopper
Aircraft: Embraer E-190
From: Amsterdam
To: London Heathrow T4
Cabin Class: Business
Seat: 2F, window on the right side of the aircraft
Date: 28 March 2013


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GETTING TO THE AIRPORT

Just after 13h00 I decide to head back to the airport – I’m feeling cold. My next connection is by Fyra train. The Fyra is the fastest way to get to the airport because these trains don’t stop anywhere on the way between Amsterdam Central station and Schiphol. Subsequently the Fyra trains is subject to a fare supplement.

The airport has calmed down since the morning. As the United Kingdom is outside the Schengen area, I’ll have to go through passport control. In Amsterdam security for the non-Schengen flights is not centralised and instead there is a checkpoint at every gate.

From passport control I head for the KLM Crown Lounge. On my way there I pass Audrey Hepburn, the MD-11 that gently carried me away from Montreal and safely brought me across the Atlantic to Amsterdam. She’s standing where I left her this morning at gate E2.

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I presume she’ll be heading back across the Atlantic later on in the afternoon. As I stand there admiring her classic good looks, it suddenly hits me with a stab of regret that in all likelihood I will not get another chance to fly the MD-11 again. I know I’ve said so before, but this time I think it may actually be true. And so I bid my farewell. I think back for a moment on the fond memories I have of flying on the MD-11. And then I move on.

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THE LOUNGE

The lounge is still quite busy when I arrive, so I resist the urge to take any pictures for the benefit of my fellow trip reporters. I manage to find myself a nice quiet corner, settle down and give my mum a call to let her know I’m back in Europe.

A cappuccino and some tasty spicy biscuits later and it’s time for me to make my way to the lounge for boarding. My flight will be leaving from gate D6. To reach D6 you have to take the stairs down from the main concourse level to ground level, which is also where the security check takes place. Behind that there is a whole series of gates that together make up D6 and which are designated with the letters of the alphabet. My flight will be boarding from gate D6-D. The designation evidently is a bit confusing and while the boarding process is going on, a whole bunch of people rush up to the counter for our gate, only to be informed by the gate agent that they still have loads of time and their flight will not be boarding from here anyway.

Here's the view from D6:

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THE CABIN

Eventually the packed bus whisks us away to our awaiting chariot. From the D gates it takes about 5 minutes by bus to reach the Fokker farm where our bird is parked. We pull up next to a lone Embraer E-190. I take my time getting off the bus as I want to take some pictures and I’m sitting in the front section of the plane anyway.

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There are three rows of Business Class. Initially I’m on 3D, an aisle seat. The window seat is occupied. I’m a bit surprised. I’m not quite sure whether KLM has recently made some changes to its seating policy in European Business Class or if perhaps I’ve just been very lucky so far. As far as I know, KLM normally keeps the neighbouring seat in Business Class free to give you more space. This no longer seems to be the case. As it turns out though, by the time the door is closed row two remains empty and so I quickly change seats and move to 2F.

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The cabin of the Embraer is certainly more modern and attractive than that of the Fokker 70, which really is getting a bit long in the tooth. In particular, I like the very elegant and simple shapes and lines in the cabin. I’m not really much of a fan of the seats on the Embraer though. As far as that's concerned, the Fokker 70 definitely takes the biscuit. The pitch is fine, but it always feels like the seats are a bit too low above the ground to make for a comfortable ride. But today’s flight will only be 45 minutes, plus the fifteen minutes trek to the threshold of the departing runway 36L. I’ll survive.

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THE CREW

The crew is an interesting mix. The two ladies in the cabin are both Dutch and very friendly. Actually I think I recognise one of them from a previous flight. The cockpit crew is one Englishman and a Scotsman with rather a pronounced accent. I’m not so sure how comprehensible his accent is to the international aviation community, but it certainly sounds cool.

DEPARTURE


Once all the passengers are seated, the crew come round offering newspaper. Their English selection is a choice of either the Herald Tribune or the Financial Times, both of which I’m not really keen on. Besides, the view outside is far more interesting I think. You know that song by the Talking Head? 'We're on a road to nowhere...' always comes to mind when I'm sitting on a plane making the long trek to the Polderbahn.

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THE MEAL

Once we get airborne the meal service begins quickly.

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The meal consists of:

  • An amuse bouche of potato and shrimp salad with creamy Reypenaar cheese.

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  • A mixed salad with honeyed Goat’s cheese, beetroot and pumpkin seed, served with organic balsamic dressing.

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  • Assorted hot rolls.

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  • A vanilla mousse with green apple compote.


With that I have a still water to drink. In contrast to Economy Class, in Business Class you get the whole bottle to drink.

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As usual with KLM, the meal is very tasty and sufficient for such a short hop. It certainly beats Lufthansa’s ‘special moments’ offerings in terms of quantity, quality and presentation.

Coffee and tea are also offered – but I forget to take a picture.

ARRIVAL

By the time the meal is cleared away, we’ve already started out descent. We’re early today and fortunately traffic is not too busy. So we only have to make one holding circuit before we are vectored for the approach.

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We land on runway 09R. T4 is deserted at this time of day, with only a handful of aircraft parked at the gates. As we round the corner, KLM’s previous flight from Amsterdam comes in to view.

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TRANSFER IN HEATHROW

We deplane and I follow the signs for flight connections and T5.

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I’m rather surprised to find that I appear to be the only passenger on the flight who does not have London as their final destination. I walk straight ahead, turn left, down another corridor, turn right, then left again, then right again, then down the escalators until finally I am standing – all by myself – at the bus stop for the shuttle from T4 to T5. I wait for about 10 minutes for the bus to arrive. I am the only passenger making the journey, the bus driver seems surprised even to see just one person!

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The transfer takes 13 minutes to complete and offers some interesting views of the ramp and the extensive tunnel system under Heathrow. The whole ride has a bit of a ‘behind the scenes’ feel to it. It’s really quite fascinating.

CONCLUSION

I like KLM. I have yet to have a bad experience with a KLM crew! My impression of the Dutch has always been that they are very pragmatic people, particularly when it comes to business. And I think a lot of that shows in the KLM product. Of course there are more polished offerings out there. Just to use the Amsterdam to London route as an example, BA will offer you a meal on a tray with metal cutlery and a proper plate – rather than presenting you with a meal in a box like KLM do. Nonetheless, the KLM approach somehow seems more sensible – to me at least – and I like that.

Thanks for taking the time to read this report. Your comments are always welcome. If you're interested, you can find more trip reports here: http://knightofmalta.wordpress.com/

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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1177 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 22507 times:
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Hi William,

Nice to see a report on KLMs business class again. Like always, the crew and service look nice!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
From passport control I head for the KLM Crown Lounge. On my way there I pass Audrey Hepburn, the MD-11 that gently carried me away from Montreal and safely brought me across the Atlantic to Amsterdam. She’s standing where I left her this morning at gate E2.

What a beauty! Also flew PH-KCE between AMS-ORD last November  
Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As far as I know, KLM normally keeps the neighbouring seat in Business Class free to give you more space

Not on the Embraers unfortunately..

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Coffee and tea are also offered – but I forget to take a picture.

How dare you 

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1969 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 21992 times:
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Thanks for sharing!

An impressive meal by any standard; well done, KLM! On a flight of this length in the USA you'd be lucky to get some mixed nuts in F.

It really seems KLM has stepped up their game the last few years. It's great to see!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 21893 times:

Hi William,

thank you for this brief overview on KLM's E190. I personally am a fan of these aircraft series, though I do not like the seats KLM is using, and so far I only disliked one E190 flight (I made over 20), and the one I disliked was on KLM.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The Fyra is the fastest way to get to the airport because these trains don’t stop anywhere on the way between Amsterdam Central station and Schiphol. Subsequently the Fyra trains is subject to a fare supplement.

That's incorrect. Fyra trains are not subject to a fare supplement between Amsterdam and the airport (Schiphol) station.
Aside from that, the intercity service is just taking 2 or 3 minutes more time in schedule due to the 2 stops but there still applies speed restriction on the track which is valid for any train.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
From the D gates it takes about 5 minutes by bus to reach the Fokker farm where our bird is parked.

Haha, more Embraers these days me thinks.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
'We're on a road to nowhere...' always comes to mind when I'm sitting on a plane making the long trek to the Polderbahn.

Hey, we're not in Germany, it's Polderbaan  
Seems to nowhere indeed, though taxi time in serveral other airports is longer then the one in AMS to runway 36L me thinks.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The transfer takes 13 minutes to complete and offers some interesting views of the ramp and the extensive tunnel system under Heathrow. The whole ride has a bit of a ‘behind the scenes’ feel to it. It’s really quite fascinating.

It is indeed. Also CDG (and MUC, but it's smaller) has these transfer buses at airside which show a lot of the airside road system. A nice (free) apron tour for people like us.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 21114 times:

Hi William,

Perfect timing. My next KL flights are coming up this weekend (ok, not C-Class, but never mind) so I'm all excited now!

That meal looks just super. And on a 45 minute flight! It just proves the point that food can be nicely presented even if it is in a box.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As the United Kingdom is outside the Schengen area, I’ll have to go through passport control. In Amsterdam security for the non-Schengen flights is not centralised and instead there is a checkpoint at every gate.

This is the only thing about AMS that I don't like.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As I stand there admiring her classic good looks, it suddenly hits me with a stab of regret that in all likelihood I will not get another chance to fly the MD-11 again. I know I’ve said so before, but this time I think it may actually be true. And so I bid my farewell.

How very poetic. Sure you don't want to book another hop over the pond to Montreal?

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1791 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 21102 times:

Hi William,

Thank you for another one of your KLM travel stories. My first encounter with KLM last year also left me with a very good feeling. It's however sad to see there's downward spiral of service level, noticeable in the little things. But many airlines have that of course.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
For one day of storage the charge is EUR 7.- for a mid-sized locker and EUR 9.- for a large sized locker.

That's quite OK, BRU charges by the hour and by the end of the day, I end up paying around € 15!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
My next connection is by Fyra train.

Oh, the much plagued Fyra train   It has been all over the news for weeks and weeks. I'm not really with that all but it is riding again then?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
On my way there I pass Audrey Hepburn, the MD-11 that gently carried me away from Montreal and safely brought me across the Atlantic to Amsterdam.

Still an amazing sight!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
And then I move on.

  

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As far as I know, KLM normally keeps the neighbouring seat in Business Class free to give you more space. This no longer seems to be the case.

Hmm, not a good move methinks but they'll have their reasons?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
But today’s flight will only be 45 minutes, plus the fifteen minutes trek to the threshold of the departing runway 36L.

And don't forget the holding loop above central London!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Coffee and tea are also offered – but I forget to take a picture.

No worries, we know what they look like lol!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
I’m rather surprised to find that I appear to be the only passenger on the flight who does not have London as their final destination.

I'm not that surprised. I guess most connecting traffic goes the other way, to AMS iso from AMS.

Sultanils



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 20898 times:

Hi William


Great report about KLs intra-europe J.
Doens't look bad and the catering looks a plus as well. However with seating that's exactly the same I would not be paying extra for a J class ticket.
I only can agree on your comment about KL's crew. IMO one of Europe's best.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 20692 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
Oh, the much plagued Fyra train   It has been all over the news for weeks and weeks. I'm not really with that all but it is riding again then?

Nils, Fyra train run as usual internally on the Dutch network with final stop Breda, using the original engine/6-carriage combination. Only the new designed trains (V250 type) are taken out of service and subject to partial reconstruction due to safety issues, design glimpses and onboard systems.

2x per hour a Fyra train leaves from Amsterdam Central to Breda at the moment.



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User currently offlineLCYFlyer From Germany, joined Oct 2007, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 20195 times:

Hey,

a good presentation of KLM's european business class product. They menu service is superb and definitely adds to their overall service.

I also just recently took 'Amy Johnson' (PH-KCA) across the pond to Montreal. McDonnell Douglas sure know how to build aircraft back then.

Thanks for posting!
Cheers from ZHAW,
Pierre



Cheers, Pierre
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20048 times:

Hi Brendan!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 1):
What a beauty! Also flew PH-KCE between AMS-ORD last November

Don't get me started, I may just get another lump in my throat...But seriously, I'm really impressed by what good care KLM takes of these planes.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 1):
Not on the Embraers unfortunately..

I did some research, I was on the Amsterdam to Basel flight earlier this week, which has switched back to a F. 70 with the change of the timetable. By the looks of it they only keep the seat next to you empty on the Fokker but not on the Embraer.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 1):
How dare you

Well, you know how it is Brendan. Sometimes you feel the devil inside and do something outrageous...

Hi Matthew

Quoting 767747 (Reply 2):
Thanks for sharing!

My pleasure!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 2):
It really seems KLM has stepped up their game the last few years. It's great to see!

Yes, they have. Now if only they could change the meal selection a bit more often. I always seem to end up having the same thing.

Hi Eric

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
thank you for this brief overview on KLM's E190.

My pleasure.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
Fyra trains are not subject to a fare supplement between Amsterdam and the airport (Schiphol) station.
Aside from that, the intercity service is just taking 2 or 3 minutes more time in schedule due to the 2 stops but there still applies speed restriction on the track which is valid for any train.

In that case, I think I've been ripped off. But thanks for the info. Now I know for next time!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
Hey, we're not in Germany, it's Polderbaan

Of course, I just wanted to see if you notice...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
A nice (free) apron tour for people like us.

That's what I always think. I really don't mind, especially with the nonstop action on the ramp in LHR.

Hi Nils

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
It's however sad to see there's downward spiral of service level, noticeable in the little things. But many airlines have that of course.

As you say, all airlines are cutting costs. But I think with KLM they're less dramatic.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
That's quite OK, BRU charges by the hour and by the end of the day, I end up paying around € 15!

That seems rather steep!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
It has been all over the news for weeks and weeks. I'm not really with that all but it is riding again then?

I heard about that. Aren't they those Italian Pendolino trains? We have those in Switzerland. On routes to Italy they now have a regular train running on exactly the same route shortly behind the Pendolino to pick passengers when they get stranded again.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
I'm not that surprised. I guess most connecting traffic goes the other way, to AMS iso from AMS.

I guess so. It's probably also that the airlines are now more or less segregated by their affiliation to an alliance or other. I don't think there's much connecting traffic between alliances.

Hi Marc

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
Great report about KLs intra-europe J.

Thanks.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
Doens't look bad and the catering looks a plus as well. However with seating that's exactly the same I would not be paying extra for a J class ticket.

Well no, but if it's part of the long-haul package, who am I to refuse?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
I only can agree on your comment about KL's crew. IMO one of Europe's best.

Absolutely, they're great!

Hi Pierre

Quoting LCYFlyer (Reply 8):
a good presentation of KLM's european business class product. They menu service is superb and definitely adds to their overall service.

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

Quoting LCYFlyer (Reply 8):
I also just recently took 'Amy Johnson' (PH-KCA) across the pond to Montreal. McDonnell Douglas sure know how to build aircraft back then.

You can certainly say that again! In a way the MD-11 does look old-fashioned by today's standards but when you're in the plane you really get the impression that it was built to last.

Quoting LCYFlyer (Reply 8):
Cheers from ZHAW,

That's interesting. Are you studying in our degree programme?

Well, lady and gents, thanks for taking the time to comment. It's much appreciated.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6945 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18651 times:

Hi William,

my comments have been overdue...finally found some time. Nice report about this KLM E190 hop. I flew MUC-AMS on one of these birds in mid-March.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The cabin of the Embraer is certainly more modern and attractive than that of the Fokker 70, which really is getting a bit long in the tooth. In particular, I like the very elegant and simple shapes and lines in the cabin. I’m not really much of a fan of the seats on the Embraer though.

I have always been a fan of the E-Jets. But this time I was in 1F and I noticed an unpleasant stream of cold air - originating from the general vents. I also noticed that on Flybe's E175 last year (seated in the back, though). Not a great air conditioning design IMO.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
A vanilla mousse with green apple compote.

Got that one as well.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
I like KLM. I have yet to have a bad experience with a KLM crew! My impression of the Dutch has always been that they are very pragmatic people, particularly when it comes to business.

I can only agree. I have had only good crews on KLM - and the best one on a recent AMS-MEX flight. But the long-haul Business Class hardware needs to be updated soon.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17353 times:

Hi Udo

Thanks for dropping by.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
I have always been a fan of the E-Jets. But this time I was in 1F and I noticed an unpleasant stream of cold air - originating from the general vents. I also noticed that on Flybe's E175 last year (seated in the back, though). Not a great air conditioning design IMO.

I've noticed that as well on some of the flights. it really can be quite unpleasant after a while.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Got that one as well.

I think that's my only complaint about KLM. They don't change their menus very often. If you travel with them regularly it gets a bit monotonous.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
I have had only good crews on KLM - and the best one on a recent AMS-MEX flight.

Have I missed something or haven't you posted that one yet?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
But the long-haul Business Class hardware needs to be updated soon.

I'm rather curious about the new cabin design. From the pictures I've seen so far I think it looks rather nice and spacious.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6945 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 17083 times:

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 11):
Have I missed something or haven't you posted that one yet?

No, it was a recent trip, report to follow...well, hopefully before yearend.  
Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 11):
From the pictures I've seen so far I think it looks rather nice and spacious.

Yes, I can only agree.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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