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Kyoto, The KE A300-600, And Seoul  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 21070 times:

Kyoto, the KE A300-600, and Seoul

Thanks for reading the continuation to my long-ago started series on East Asia!

First, as usual, let me do the overall itinerary:

0B 111, OTP-BGY, 734, 29DEC
AZ 786, MXP-NRT, 772, 30 DEC
KE 2726, KIX-GMP, AB6, 04JAN
KE 1, ICN-NRT, 332, 06JAN
MH 92, NRT-LAX, 772, 06JAN
DL 2168, LAX-MSP, 752, 07JAN
DL 5778, MSP-MDW, E70, 07JAN

Part 1: Blue Err... To Bergamo And Milano (by dc9northwest Jan 8 2013 in Trip Reports)
Part 2: Going To Tokyo... Alitalia 777-200ER, MXP-NRT (by dc9northwest Jan 13 2013 in Trip Reports)

After the few nice days spent in Tokyo, it was time to take the most interesting train in the world to Kyoto. A 6:30 am wake up call was in order and, a short and not very filling breakfast later, we were off to Tokyo station via the Yamanote line. This being Japan, a few effortless minutes later we were in Tokyo Station. M proceeded to buy a Bento box filled with all sorts of delicacies I didn't touch. We had a bit of trouble with the system for entering the Shinkansen section of the line from the Suburban Railway part. You need to first tap your local ticket, and then the Shinkansen ticket (or was it the other way around?). A nice female agent helped us with this process in the typical Japanese courteous way after seeing we were struggling.

A bit later, we reached the platform from which our 8:00am Nozomi to Kyoto (and onwards) would depart. After the first train we caught on that track, a 7:40 departure, left, we found the right place to wait for our car, no. 5, to arrive. The duck-billed Shinkansen didn't leave us waiting for long and we boarded and waited for our departure—on-time. Of course it's on-time... It is Japan after all. A common joke is that in Japan, when a train is 10 minutes late, the Minister of Transportation automatically resigns. After two brief stops at Shinagawa and Shin-Yokohama, it was time for this train to really show what it was capable of. A stop at Nagoya later, we were on approach to Kyoto, travelling a 500-km distance in well under 3 hours. I remember calculating an average speed of about 230 km/h for the Nozomi while on-board. Not at all bad for ground transportation, I'd say.

Duck-billed Shinkansen:


Nozomi to Shin-Osaka:

The train:


Cabin views:






Pretty decent legroom:


Stopped in Nagoya:




Off in Kyoto it was. The price for this segment of our journey was approximately 13,700 JPY—more expensive than the cheapest flights offered by JAL and ANA, which started at under 10,000, but those had horrible timings (departures around 6 or 7 am from Haneda to Osaka Itami, ITM). Again, we exited the station with our tickets, to ensure everyone gets off at the correct station. Don't lose them on the way!

We proceeded to our hotel, the newly opened Almont Hotel Kyoto, about 10 minutes away by walking (with luggage) from Kyoto Station—a massive construction by any standards. Of course, this was around 11:00 am, so we couldn't check-in just yet (check-in in Japan generally starts at precisely the stated time, and not a minute sooner). Nevertheless, we left our luggage at the hotel and proceeded back to Kyoto Station, to take the bus towards Kiyomizu-dera.

Just in front of Kyoto Station:


As luck would have it, this being Hatsumode period, it was pretty full. In fact, after purchasing tickets from a tourist office type of building in front the train station, we had to wait in a long queue, which in any other country would have likely resulted in elbowing to the front... but the Japanese people just do it so well... I've never seen such an organized queue. About 15 minutes later, we succeeded boarding the 3rd bus on the route to leave Kyoto Station. Full to the brim, in fact... The 10 or 15-minute ride wasn't exactly comfortable, to say the least. However, we disembarked the bus (#101 I believe), and managed to walk up to the temple, having a green tea ice cream on the way (Kyoto specialty which you must try—well, green tea (matcha/maccha) anything, really). The temple was quite impressive and very well populated during this time of year. Nevertheless, we managed to enjoy it quite a bit. The pictures present the temple somewhat, but it's really something that must be experienced first-hand, particularly in Hatsumode season.... But if you don't like crowds, maybe you should try some other time of year  

Towards Kiyomizu:


Shops:


Up the stairs we go:


Main Entrance:


Another angle:


The processional queue:


Towards the city:


Temple details:


More views (are you bored yet):


Kyoto might not be Tokyo, but it is still enormous:


Small shrine:


Anyway, after a short while spent at the temple, we descended towards multiple other sights along the way to Ginkaku-ji. We sampled some rice-desserts made with green tea and black sesame, got some street food, and wandered to Kodai-ji temple, and the temple with the large statue of Buddha nearby. As time was short, we then proceeded further, along the narrow streets of Gion neighborhood...

Narrow and crowded streets:


More traditional shops:


The Big Buddha:


Again, the Big Buddha:


Kodai-ji:


Kodai-ji 2:


Entrance/Exit to Kodai-ji:


Other big reference points on our journey were Yasaka Shrine, Chion-in Temple and Heian Shrine. We visited each of these–a longer or shorter visit, keeping ourselves warm with some warm tea or other non-alcoholic drink from the ubiquitous dispenser machines. At Heian Shrine we realized we'd need to take the 102 bus to Ginkaku-ji (The Silver Temple) in order to be able to actually visit it, as it would close at around 5 pm. Luckily, we made it in time, and saw the Philosopher's Path before proceeding in to see this important attraction. Of course, it was very nice—although it was getting dark so the pictures aren't the best and don't really do it justice.

Yasaka Shrine:


Lanterns:


Nicely paved street towards Chion-in:


Large entrance to Chion-in:


On the way to Heian:


Heian Shrine:


We decided to rush to Kinkaku-ji (The Golden Temple) to see if we could reach it before closing time. While waiting for the bus, we saw some flakes falling from the twilit sky. Hmmm, cold but nice. We caught the last bus towards the Golden Pavilion. When we arrived, we saw that it was closed and the officer guarding the temple didn't allow us to go in—oh well. Between the bus directly to Kyoto Station and the bus to the subway, the latter won, in part due to the queue for the first bus. This means I'd also put another subway system on my list. Good. We reached the subway station, got tickets and proceeded to Kyoto station and our hotel.

Philosopher's Path and 'the Ditch':




In Ginkaku-ji complex:


Traditional Japanese Garden:


Again, raked rocks/sand:


I assure you, I didn't change the colors on this picture:


The main pavilion in the background:


Silver Pavilion:


View of Kyoto:


I then decided to check-in for our A300 ride from KIX to GMP the next day. No seats were taken and apparently we were the 7th and 8th passengers to check-in... well after the 24-hour deadline. Not many people seem to use on-line check-in... Not that it's surprising considering Korean Air's website is the most useless website I've seen from a major carrier. Generally speaking, it's optimized for Internet Explorer (as everything else in ROK, very weird), and you can't do anything without a Skypass account. Even the purchasing part of the website is not to my liking, but that may be personal preference. Anyway, I got us seats in row 50, a few rows behind door 3R on the A300.

That's the check-in process. It worked without hiccups, luckily. We needed to insert some passport details, but all went well.

Classy Hotel Lobby:


After a bit of rest, I realized that Fushimi Inari was open 24 hours a day. Or, in any case, it would still be open for a while. Back to the train station, and on the first local train in that direction after purchasing tickets. Luckily there's one train every 12 minutes or so. 5 minutes later, we were at Fushimi Inari station, just outside the temple. Inside a marvelous thing was waiting for us—the thousand of torii on multiple paths up the mountain nearby. The rather empty place, and cold weather, and darkness, made for a very atmospheric experience. The moon sometimes shone through the clouds. It was almost surreal... “Does this city actually exist?” Well, I'm not sure. Still not sure. We'll need to go back to make sure it does exist and that it wasn't just a fever dream. Definitely, Fushimi Inari is the nicest experience I've had travelling, so far at least. What a wonderful place... Kyoto (and Japan in general) is first on my “places to go back to list”.

Fushimi Inari entrance:


The Thousand Torii:


Inscriptions on the torii:


Left or right?


Some more views:


On our return we stopped at a small bar/restaurant in Kyoto-Station. Entranced or famished, I didn't even recognize the little bits of fish in the potatoes until we'd almost finished them—these Japanese people really do put fish in everything, don't they?

Off to a wonderful sleep in Kyoto's at that time newest hotel.

Groggy, a 7:00 am wake-up was waiting for us. Where and who are we? The world then rematerialized around us.

Wait, we have to leave now, don't we? What a shame! To save some money in this somewhat expensive country, we bought Kansai Rail Passes. We had to pick them up at the rail station. Getting there, we exchanged our vouchers for the rail-passes. The reservation agent serving us was confused about the different number of digits in our Passport numbers. Mine is an older version and has 8, while M's had 9. I offered information to the agent as to why they're different, and she just added a 0 in front of my passport number. Off the the Haruka-Express to Kansai Airport, one I wanted to sample ever since I was 7 and I had this booklet regarding the “Seven Wonders of the Modern World”, which featured the airport on the artificial island, Kansai. We rushed to the train, and made it in time. Car no. 6 would take us to KIX today.

Haruka Express:

Interior view:


Upon arrival to KIX, we proceeded to the Korean Air check-in desks, and used the designated SkyPriority lanes. Soon, our boarding passes were printed and we were told where the Korean Air Lounge was located—unfortunately, before security. Something of which I am not a big fan. Nevertheless, we spent about half an hour in the nicely designed lounge—however, this location lacked any views, which can only be a negative. After a few snacks, we headed through security—very professional process, of course.

Kansai landside:


Again:


And again:


Corner of the Lounge:


747:


Then, we took a train to the northern part of the concourse at KIX, for our departure to Seoul-Gimpo. After a bit of spotting and waiting, we were ready to board our wonderful and not-so-new machine, the A300-600R HL-7240. Ah, I thought I'd never get to fly on one!

MAS A333:


AY A333, dedicated to AYA333:


739 and Thai retrojet:


Flight info screens:


HL-7240 (sorry for the contre-jour):


Just to make sure:


Bridge, with some reflections (grrr...):


KE 777:


Soon, gate agents came through the waiting area, calling for pre-boarding and Sky Priority. Huh? Call me invited! We were soon boarding, and I noticed on the screen that the LF today would be around a 50%. Not too great for KE, not too bad for us. Well, it makes no difference anyway, we had a 2-side in the wonderful 2-4-2 configuration of the A300.

Cabin view:


Overheads:




Legroom (good):


Wingshot:


Seats:


Safety card:


Wake up!


A300.... aka 747 with 2-engines... Oh, Korean...


AstroBoy (whoever that is...):


Lots of KAL aircraft:


Ah, that new plane smell.

Well, this A300 delivered in 1992 was showing its age, and it's approaching retirement very soon.

Kansai:


Tower:


ANA Cargo 767:


Off to the runway it is, for a departure to the North, a 90-degree left turn, an overview of Kobe airport, and a disappearance in a broken cloudy sky. After a half an hour or so, we were served a meal, which is, I would say, at about at a TAROM level, but perhaps a bit better in quality—a cold snack for the 1h 50 minute flight. An okay offering... The drinks exhibited on the cart brought by the F/As were very few—coke and orange juice, along with water... Hmm? Is this all? Kinda poverty-stricken-looking by KE here, I have to say. I don't know why. Since you can generally barely hear anything on a plane, you'd expect them to have all the options on top of the cart...

Lift-off:


Clouds:


Kobe airport:


A (very) light meal:


Korean coastline:


Mountains:


And lakes:


Racing circuit:


Approach to GMP:


Well, if the flight was good, the approach was even better. The mountains of the Korean peninsula were gradually replaced with the grey buildings of the megalopolis Seoul. The grey murky air coming from China was ever-present in a haze above the city. Descending further and further, we passed close to a couple of mountains... And then we had a nice view over the entire central part of Seoul. The touchdown was good, and a few minutes later we were disembarking in the empty halls of Gimpo airport. Immigration was fast and our baggage arrived soon thereafter at the carousel.

Seoul:


Seoul:


and more Seoul:


Seoully for you:


Braaaakes:


Gimpo:


Jeju Air:


GMP arrivals hall:


Arrivals, from ???, Osaka, Nagoya, Osaka, Beijing,...:


GMP landside:


To the subway:


Next, off to the subway for a very confusing experience... The subway system here is not very user-friendly. When I entered the subway (on the wrong side of the station—their maps are always pointing the direction you're facing rather than North, which doesn't help—in fact it's extremely confusing when you don't know about it!) a red light appeared so I put my card there by reflex. Bad move... Once we realized we were on the wrong side we had to go out again, and that was a problem, which only the guys manning the station could solve—they let me out and in on the other side, to get to the correct platform... Soon, we were on the train to Seoul center, on the way to our hotel/motel by Donhwamun-ro in Jongno. Disembarkation at our station was confusing too, and of course the subway card didn't work here either.... Error 44, my ass. Luckily a nice older gentleman seeing we were in distress, resorted to allowing us to proceed without tapping our tickets via the baggage/handicap gate at the station—very nice of him!

After a few minutes we arrived at the City Park Hotel (it goes by different names in different places as far as I could tell). Overall, a good and cheap place to stay. Apparently it is a “love-hotel” for Korean couples but, while low-cost, it's neither tacky nor dirty, so I'd have no qualms in staying there again when in Seoul.

The question was, what to do for 1.5 days in Seoul? Well, one of my best friends at University is from Incheon, so we decided to meet up while I was in his country's capital. By “coincidence”, one of our other Asian friends was also in town, so the four of us went to dinner at Hanmiri Restaurant, where we served a full-course meal of Korean food—mostly seafood for them, but none for me, because I'm lame. Overall, it was a good meal and a good introduction to real Korean food.

However, before this, we walked around the city, took advantage of the cheap subway system, and visited some of the five palaces Seoul is known for. The first stop was the free Gyeonghuigung. The smallest and least interesting of the five, it was a nice oasis in a hectic city. In fact, the one thing that struck me about Seoul was how well they combine tradition with modernity in the city center. Well done. Afterwards we headed to Deoksugung, purchased a Four Palaces+Jongmyo Shrine ticket for a reasonable price, and visited Deoksugung Palace, a more interesting and better kept palace. The bitter cold prohibited us from spending much time there. Well, that and the fact we had a meeting at 7pm somewhere close to the city center. We saw the City Hall, and then proceeded to meet up with my friends and head out to eat. After the meal and a bit of walking around, at -10C, M and I headed back to the hotel.

Gyeonghuigung:


Another view:


Inside (musta been cold):


Another view:


Sunset in the Big City:


Street View:


Mixed styles:


Modernity:


Deoksugung:


Detail:


Close-up:


5 mountains (Korean peninsula), Sun and Moon:


Russian-influenced style:


Central Seoul:


City Hall:


Winter decorations:


Han Mi Ri restaurant:


The next day, it was still bitterly cold, as Seoul is likely to be if you're crazy enough to venture there in winter. After all, Siberia is practically next door.

We visited Changdeokgung Palace and the Secret Garden, then Changgyeonggung, and Jongmyo Shrine, before proceeding to Gyeongbokgung, where we witnessed a changing of the guard, Korean-style. After, we headed to Jogye Temple. The Secret Garden and Gyeongbokgung were the highlights. I have not much to say aside from the fact that the colors and styles used in all these attractions became boring not long after first seeing them. Always the same... An interesting remark, the small “animals” you can see on top of some buildings in the palaces indicate the relative importance of the building in the complex and protect the inhabitants of the aforementioned buildings from the forces of evil.

Changdeokgung:


Changdeokgung:


Same sort of interior:


Lounging area:


Details:

Secret Garden:


More stuff:


Secret Garden and the Korea-shaped lake:


Ensemble view over Changgyeonggung:


Changgyeonggung 2:


Some more views:


Again:


Shrine:


Main entrance/exit:


Jongmyo Shrine:


Winter pathways:


Sacrificial Table:


Typical Korea:


The 'main' palace, Gyeongbokgung:


Changing of the guards, Korean-style:


The King's pathway?


More views:


Important building:


Urn:


Ceiling details:


Sundial:


Protector-creatures:


Summer Pavilion:


Mountain and people playing:


Pavilion:


Nice sunset:


Winter in the Big City:


Entrance to Jogyesa Temple:


Main Hall:


Main Hall, opposite angle:


Door frame details:


One of the main shopping streets, Insadong:


Changdeokgung entrance at night:


Overall, Seoul was rather picturesque, but for a city of 20 million, did not have that many sights to keep the tourist occupied. The fact that almost no one cleared the ice and snow from the sidewalk/pavement gave the impression of an uncared-for city... This reminded me of Bucharest. It's hard for me to draw many conclusions about Seoul or its inhabitants. It's a megalopolis of 20 million people, so any generalization is very difficult. Koreans have a rivalry with the Japanese—and they should be happy when I say you can't confuse the two nations... However, I'm not sure that's a good thing for Korea from my perspective. Japan is the clear winner here.

I think that South Korea is a country of many contrasts, and therefore I'd rank it in the middle of the pack in my preference list. Nevertheless, for us aviation enthusiasts—their airports are great—both GMP and ICN rank very highly in my view.

Korean Air is good, but that doesn't mean it can't improve—for example, they should bring their website up to international standards and understand that as a global carrier you can't adhere to Korean internet conventions, which seem to be outdated anywhere else on the globe! Where I live, Internet Explorer is for “noobs” and people who don't know with what (tool) you can eat the internet. (The latter is a Romanian expression and I don't expect it to make sense to many people. Don't worry if you missed it!) The conclusion is that I really don't like the Korean Air website.

Next up, I'll detail my return to Chicago... and it will be a mostly aviation-focused report, as I've finished most of the sightseeing on this journey!

Thanks for reading! Comments are always appreciated!

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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1698 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 19654 times:
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Hi Alex,

Impressed by this nice picturesque report of your journey. Awesome aerial pics, the weather was on your side! And how cool as well to have been able to sample that old piece of engineering called the AB6!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
MAS A333

Looking splendid. In contrast to others, I do like those white-ish colour schemes (I’m the minimalistic type lol!)

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Just to make sure

Sure enough! I’ve flown the same type on KU about 1,5 year ago.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Legroom (good)

Better say (excellent)  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A (very) light meal

Quite disappointing and packed in a very environmental unfriendly way too.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Racing circuit:

It’s not Suzuka F1 but I can’t tell which one it is.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offline9w748capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 580 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 19528 times:

An excellent report and very thorough - quite the adventure!

Absolutely love your Kyoto pics - boy I miss that place! Truly one of the great cities in the world. How did I miss the Big Buddha temple? Reason enough to go back there for sure. And I didn't know Inari was open at night - I remember rushing there around 3 PM on one of my last days there to see it - if only I'd have known!

Enjoyed your Seoul pics too - as frequently as ICN is covered here I don't remember seeing many pics of Seoul proper. Certainly looks "nice" but I agree Japan looks like it's in another league entirely!

Thanks again - looking forward to more TRs!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 19186 times:

Hey, great report! Congrats on logging the rare AB6. Awesome destination pictures as well, and a wonderful approacj and views into GMP indeed!

User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 18974 times:
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Hi Alex,

Great to see the continuation to the series you were in! Another great report with many nice pictures   Congrats on catching the AB6, a type I'm afraid I will never be able to catch unfortunately.
Love your destination pictures of both Kyoto and Seoul, beautiful and stunning!
KEs service doesn't look all to impressive here, nevertheless flying such a classic makes up for it a lot!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Of course it's on-time... It is Japan after all. A common joke is that in Japan, when a train is 10 minutes late, the Minister of Transportation automatically resigns

Haha, a lot of countries can take an example to that!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Cabin views

Doesn't look like it was very full

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Kobe airport:

Nice catch!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A (very) light meal:

Not that impressive IMHO

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
mostly seafood for them, but none for me, because I'm lame

Haha, then I guess I'm also lame  

Thanks for putting this up and looking forward to your next report

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18521 times:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 1):
Hi Alex,

Hi Nils,

Quoting sultanils (Reply 1):
Impressed by this nice picturesque report of your journey. Awesome aerial pics, the weather was on your side! And how cool as well to have been able to sample that old piece of engineering called the AB6!

Thanks very much--yeah, all in all a good journey!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 1):
Looking splendid. In contrast to others, I do like those white-ish colour schemes (I’m the minimalistic type lol!)

Hah. Well, it's not that I mind white, it's that all airlines going to white is boring  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 1):
Better say (excellent)  

Sure. But I haven't had problems with legroom... except on Wizzair, maybe.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 1):
It’s not Suzuka F1 but I can’t tell which one it is.

It's apparently Everland Speedway in Yongin, Korea! Though it looks different than on google maps...

Thanks for reading, Nils  
Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 2):
An excellent report and very thorough - quite the adventure!

Absolutely love your Kyoto pics - boy I miss that place! Truly one of the great cities in the world. How did I miss the Big Buddha temple? Reason enough to go back there for sure. And I didn't know Inari was open at night - I remember rushing there around 3 PM on one of my last days there to see it - if only I'd have known!

Enjoyed your Seoul pics too - as frequently as ICN is covered here I don't remember seeing many pics of Seoul proper. Certainly looks "nice" but I agree Japan looks like it's in another league entirely!

Thanks again - looking forward to more TRs!

Hi there, thanks very much for reading!

It's not hard to miss a temple in the multitude that Kyoto has to offer   Yeah, next time you should go back to Inari at night--it improves the atmosphere tremendously, most likely  

Yeah, that's pretty much what I think regarding Japan vs Korea!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 3):
Hey, great report! Congrats on logging the rare AB6. Awesome destination pictures as well, and a wonderful approacj and views into GMP indeed!

Hey Robert, thanks very much for reading! Glad you enjoyed  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Great to see the continuation to the series you were in! Another great report with many nice pictures   Congrats on catching the AB6, a type I'm afraid I will never be able to catch unfortunately.
Love your destination pictures of both Kyoto and Seoul, beautiful and stunning!
KEs service doesn't look all to impressive here, nevertheless flying such a classic makes up for it a lot!

Thanks very much for reading, Brendan!  

Keep trying for the AB6, there're a few in Europe left, like Monarch  

Eh, Korean is good... maybe I expected more, but it was quality. But the A300 was indeed better 
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Doesn't look like it was very full

50% or thereabout, but those were during boarding so not everyone had gotten on...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 4):
Haha, then I guess I'm also lame  

Thanks for putting this up and looking forward to your next report

Birds of a feather stick together. We non-seafoodies gotta stick together!  

Thanks, Brendan! Hopefully this weekend, though I'm not sure...


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18436 times:

Hi Alex !

Nice to see so many pictures from Japan again! Kyoto looks especially beautiful.

Great that you were able to add to your types flown with the A300 since there are not that many left. I've had my shares of A300 flights including AF (B4) , LH and TG.

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 17775 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Hi Alex !

Nice to see so many pictures from Japan again! Kyoto looks especially beautiful.

Great that you were able to add to your types flown with the A300 since there are not that many left. I've had my shares of A300 flights including AF (B4) , LH and TG.

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man

Hi there, L.!

Thanks for reading and commenting!

You have it right--Kyoto is beautiful  

Good to know you've also had A300 flights, even if the T7 is your specialty  

Thanks again, L.!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 17534 times:

After a long-ish hiatus it's time to resume reading some trip reports. It was nice reading your latest installment Alex, it certainly brought back a ton of memories. As you know I'm a big fan of Japan, just like yourself.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
M proceeded to buy a Bento box filled with all sorts of delicacies I didn't touch.

How could you turn down a bento box? I'm drooling just thinking about it.  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The temple was quite impressive and very well populated during this time of year. Nevertheless, we managed to enjoy it quite a bit.

It's a great place no doubt. It seems to be busy all the time but there are certain parts of it (closer to the hills at the back) that are much quieter. I guess you were fortunate that the skies were clear when you went up there. When I was there a cloud of fog covered the city so we could hardly see anything.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Soon, our boarding passes were printed and we were told where the Korean Air Lounge was located—unfortunately, before security.

Who came up with that? The purpose of a lounge is to chill before your flight. If you have to worry about going through security then that ruins it all.

(...says the person who has never been in a lounge ).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
After a half an hour or so, we were served a meal, which is, I would say, at about at a TAROM level, but perhaps a bit better in quality—a cold snack for the 1h 50 minute flight. An okay offering...

Hm, Korean Air's catering seems to be inferior to the other Korean flag-carrier's (OZ), at least regarding these short hops. I recall my HIJ-ICN flight on OZ (an even shorter hop that yours) and the food we got there was far superior. Not sure you would have appreciated it though as it was a bento box .

I loved the photos from Seoul. It looked really cold and grey but what could one expect when it's -10C? Did you try any kimchi while there? I'm assuming it's practically impossible NOT to eat kimchi while in Korea.


Looking forward to read more about your most recent endeavors  

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 17079 times:

Cheers, Mr. Widebody Bodiroga,

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
After a long-ish hiatus it's time to resume reading some trip reports. It was nice reading your latest installment Alex, it certainly brought back a ton of memories. As you know I'm a big fan of Japan, just like yourself.

Thanks a lot, man, and I guess it's always nice to see photos from places you've enjoyed, no?  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
How could you turn down a bento box? I'm drooling just thinking about it.

Ah, but, you know, it contained fish   Careful, don't drool on the politicians, hehe...  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
It's a great place no doubt. It seems to be busy all the time but there are certain parts of it (closer to the hills at the back) that are much quieter. I guess you were fortunate that the skies were clear when you went up there. When I was there a cloud of fog covered the city so we could hardly see anything.

Seems like I'm rather lucky in general, I've had good weather (though sometimes very cold) on my trips this "winter"...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
Who came up with that? The purpose of a lounge is to chill before your flight. If you have to worry about going through security then that ruins it all.

(...says the person who has never been in a lounge&nbsp Wink.

Yes, well, that's the purpose, so I don't understand what's up with that. You gotta get going on that being in lounges thing, man  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
Hm, Korean Air's catering seems to be inferior to the other Korean flag-carrier's (OZ), at least regarding these short hops. I recall my HIJ-ICN flight on OZ (an even shorter hop that yours) and the food we got there was far superior. Not sure you would have appreciated it though as it was a bento box .

Well, the thing is, that was a while ago. You know airline service is decreasing exponentially nowadays. In a few years, you'll get an olive and a toothpick.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
I loved the photos from Seoul. It looked really cold and grey but what could one expect when it's -10C? Did you try any kimchi while there? I'm assuming it's practically impossible NOT to eat kimchi while in Korea.

I think it's rather grey in general. Think a mixture of Bulgaria in 30 years and Japan.

Yeah, definitely had kimchi   One of their small free appetizers usually is the kimchi.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8):
Looking forward to read more about your most recent endeavors  

Haha, yes, I know... but it will still be a while, my good sir.

Thanks for reading, S.!


User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3009 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 16968 times:
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Great report and pics!

You're lucky you got the KE A300 as it appears that they have been removed from scheduled service a couple of weeks ago. KE was the first non-European airline along with Thai to purchase the A300 and has flown the type for 38 years.

I agree wtih you that Japan is a lot more fun to visit and has more to see. However, Korea does have quite a few hidden gems that are off the beaten path. Of course, Korea still has a long way to go before it has the tourist appeal that Japan does.

Regarding your pic with the arrivals board at GMP, the origin you weren't sure about would be Songshan (TSA).



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16588 times:
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Nice report and pictures, thanks for sharing.

The images from Japan and Korea are great, once day I must visit some of these sights rather than just spotting at the airports  

Despite your age comment, the images of the A300 interior made it look in pretty good shape, nice to have flown one, rare beasts these days  

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15902 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 10):

Great report and pics!

You're lucky you got the KE A300 as it appears that they have been removed from scheduled service a couple of weeks ago. KE was the first non-European airline along with Thai to purchase the A300 and has flown the type for 38 years.

I agree wtih you that Japan is a lot more fun to visit and has more to see. However, Korea does have quite a few hidden gems that are off the beaten path. Of course, Korea still has a long way to go before it has the tourist appeal that Japan does.

Regarding your pic with the arrivals board at GMP, the origin you weren't sure about would be Songshan (TSA).

Hi there HOONS90,

Thanks very much for reading and commenting!

Ah, they've been removed already? Yes, they were saying at the end of winter schedule they'd be removed... What a shame, nice little aircraft. Indeed I've read about KE's long history with Airbus, AFAIK they helped Airbus establish trust outside of Europe...

I'm sure Korea has hidden gems. Unfortunately I was only there for two days, in Seoul, so I didn't have much time to go out and about.

Songshan, yes, of course... I thought they'd say Taipei on the board, which is why I was confused as that's clearly not what it says.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
Nice report and pictures, thanks for sharing.

The images from Japan and Korea are great, once day I must visit some of these sights rather than just spotting at the airports  

Despite your age comment, the images of the A300 interior made it look in pretty good shape, nice to have flown one, rare beasts these days  

Hi Mark,

Thanks very much for reading and commenting  

Yes, I'd recommend giving these places an in-depth visit  

Don't get me wrong with the age comment, Mark, as I like older aircraft. Plus, they're not *that* old. Sure, KE maintains them well. However, it seems as though they're gone now  

Thanks again, guys


Alex


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15770 times:

Thanks for sharing. Always a treat to fly such an old aircraft. I remember not so long ago LH was using them to Berlin, Munich and Hamburg as well to other destinations like BCN... Loved them

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Soon, our boarding passes were printed and we were told where the Korean Air Lounge was located—unfortunately, before security. Something of which I am not a big fan. Nevertheless, we spent about half an hour in the nicely designed lounge—however, this location lacked any views, which can only be a negative. After a few snacks, we headed through security—very professional process, of course.

I went in that same lounge before flying AZ to FCO and found it quite bad... And so unconveniently located. That said, staff in Japan generally is sooo incredible friendly, so security and passport control was a breeze


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 15329 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 13):

Thanks for sharing. Always a treat to fly such an old aircraft. I remember not so long ago LH was using them to Berlin, Munich and Hamburg as well to other destinations like BCN... Loved them

Thanks for reading!

Yeah, it's nice to fly on a rarer type...  
Quoting reifel (Reply 13):
I went in that same lounge before flying AZ to FCO and found it quite bad... And so unconveniently located. That said, staff in Japan generally is sooo incredible friendly, so security and passport control was a breeze

Well, I'm not a lounge rating type of person, but it's better than most lounges I've been to. Agreed on security/pass control in Japan  


User currently offlinemoby147 From UK - England, joined Mar 2013, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15260 times:

What a great report, with lots of detail & some great photo's   

I was lucky enough to travel on the same train form Tokyo to Kyoto with lots of legroom & great service from the onboard staff.

I bought a box full of nice pastries to enjoy on the train  

Luckily we have a friend who lived there who was our guide, great weekend.

You done very well to get to do so much, in so little time  

I have never been to Korea, but I love Japan

Regards

Moby147


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7571 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15257 times:

Hello Alex!

How are you doing? I loved your report; it is brilliant! It is great you were able to get an A300 these days! Dunno who else, if any, is flying AB6s and A310s regularly these days. You are definitely one of the best trip reporters in the forum. Thanks a lot for the time and effort, and for sharing the pictures. I really want to go to Japan now, and your report brought back very nice memories from my short, but still productive 14 hour layover in Seoul two years ago.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
AstroBoy (whoever that is...):

Lol. You are too young. I don't remember the storyline very well, but it was a very popular cartoon character when I was a kid (and probably before then too).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Next, off to the subway for a very confusing experience... The subway system here is not very user-friendly. When I entered the subway (on the wrong side of the station—their maps are always pointing the direction you're facing rather than North, which doesn't help—in fact it's extremely confusing when you don't know about it!) a red light appeared so I put my card there by reflex. Bad move... Once we realized we were on the wrong side we had to go out again, and that was a problem, which only the guys manning the station could solve—they let me out and in on the other side, to get to the correct platform...

Sorry to hear that you had a less than optimal subway experience in Seoul. I was fortunate and had no problem finding my way from ICN to downtown Seoul and back (and within Seoul, although I mostly walked). I did however have to change trains at the Gimpo station on my way back to ICN from the city and this was not very clear to me until a kind passenger approached me and explained what was going on. When you come to Mexico City we'll have to get you a clear routemap of the subway system.  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
We visited Changdeokgung Palace and the Secret Garden... An interesting remark, the small “animals” you can see on top of some buildings in the palaces indicate the relative importance of the building in the complex and protect the inhabitants of the aforementioned buildings from the forces of evil.

Wow! Nice man. I loved your pics of Seoul. How did you like Changdeok-gung? Out of the five different temples that were listed on Wikitravel, I chose to visit Changdeok-gung Palace and the Secret Garden during my layover and had a great time (oh, and I also learned the story of the animals that protect the buildings). I was lucky that an English language tour was starting very shortly after I arrived, and the weather was amazing. It was early May and it was sunny, dry and beautiful... people I met said that the days prior to my visit had been grey and rainy.

I just realized iou an e-mail from who knows when. I'll get to that. Again, awesome report and thanks!



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 14859 times:

Quoting moby147 (Reply 15):
What a great report, with lots of detail & some great photo's   


You done very well to get to do so much, in so little time  

I love Japan

Thanks very much for reading and commenting, Moby!

Glad you enjoyed seeing scenes from Japan.

I love Japan as well  
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 16):
Hello Alex!

How are you doing? I loved your report; it is brilliant! It is great you were able to get an A300 these days! Dunno who else, if any, is flying AB6s and A310s regularly these days. You are definitely one of the best trip reporters in the forum. Thanks a lot for the time and effort, and for sharing the pictures. I really want to go to Japan now, and your report brought back very nice memories from my short, but still productive 14 hour layover in Seoul two years ago.

Hi there, Eddie!  

I'm doing well... Busy week at school  

Thanks very much for the appreciation--seems like high praise, as there are many, many good reporters active on the forum!  

Japan is definitely *the* place to go if you like planes (and trains)!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 16):
Sorry to hear that you had a less than optimal subway experience in Seoul. I was fortunate and had no problem finding my way from ICN to downtown Seoul and back (and within Seoul, although I mostly walked). I did however have to change trains at the Gimpo station on my way back to ICN from the city and this was not very clear to me until a kind passenger approached me and explained what was going on. When you come to Mexico City we'll have to get you a clear routemap of the subway system.  

Thins is, I don't usually have a problem navigating subway systems! At least, my sense of direction saved me from getting on the wrong train   However, after coming from the very organized and well signposted subway system(s) in Tokyo, it takes a bit of getting used to.

Haha, so, are there no system maps in the stations in Mexico City? Sounds like Bucharest, if so!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 16):
Wow! Nice man. I loved your pics of Seoul. How did you like Changdeok-gung? Out of the five different temples that were listed on Wikitravel, I chose to visit Changdeok-gung Palace and the Secret Garden during my layover and had a great time (oh, and I also learned the story of the animals that protect the buildings). I was lucky that an English language tour was starting very shortly after I arrived, and the weather was amazing. It was early May and it was sunny, dry and beautiful... people I met said that the days prior to my visit had been grey and rainy.

Thanks again!  

Changdeok-gung was among the more interesting palaces; the Secret Garden was nice as well; in fact the highlight at Changdeokgung. Don't usually go for guided tours myself, but I had no choice this time--and there were a fair number of tourists there, including from places like Venezuela (guess who I thought of, hehe!).

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 16):
I just realized iou an e-mail from who knows when. I'll get to that. Again, awesome report and thanks!

I got your e-mail, and hope to actually have time to answer by tomorrow! It's the 2nd time I'm typing out my reply here... The A.net interface didn't wanna save it the first time around... I should be around on at least one of the days you mentioned; will respond in detail in the e-mail  

Again, thanks for the praise, Eddie!


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14305 times:

Hi Alex

Great to see your latest installment, pics are great as usual.
Would love to see Japan myself one day, it looks interesting to visit.
Interesting you logged the 300 as well, I've logged it twice in the past.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14244 times:

Hi Alex, great report and a fantastic amount of good pictures from the non-aviation part of this trip as well   
Lovely views from Japan, though the South Korean city of Seoul never attracted me, also not when viewing your pics. It seems so different from many other places in Asia.

The KE A300 is sure an interesting catch I guess. A bit old fashioned, but comfortable. I think the meal you got is a bit bland, but sufficient enough for these shorter flights. Many places around the globe where these short flights won't give you anything. Good legroom though!

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14023 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):

Hi Alex

Great to see your latest installment, pics are great as usual.
Would love to see Japan myself one day, it looks interesting to visit.
Interesting you logged the 300 as well, I've logged it twice in the past.

Hi Marc,

Thanks very much for reading and commenting... I really do think you should aim for Japan sometime  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 19):

Hi Alex, great report and a fantastic amount of good pictures from the non-aviation part of this trip as well   

Hi Eric, thanks very much!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 19):
Lovely views from Japan, though the South Korean city of Seoul never attracted me, also not when viewing your pics. It seems so different from many other places in Asia.

Yeah, Japan is something special  

I guess my comparison with Bucharest didn't help your opinion of Seoul  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 19):
The KE A300 is sure an interesting catch I guess. A bit old fashioned, but comfortable. I think the meal you got is a bit bland, but sufficient enough for these shorter flights. Many places around the globe where these short flights won't give you anything. Good legroom though!

Yeah, you're right about the meal--one such place is the USA  

Legroom is good, at least they aren't trying to squeeze every last square meter of space with passengers...

KE A300 is special, so I enjoyed it a lot.

Thanks again, guys!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6757 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 13838 times:

Hi Alex,

nice report about your KE A300 trip. Congratulations on getting the type into your log. KE's product doesn't look overy impressive on this sector, though.


PH



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26941 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13800 times:

Great report Alex  

The AB6 is a great aircraft. There is something very special about it and I had many lovely flights on the OA ones when they were flying LHR-ATH. I love the interior of the cabin and everything about it.

Lovely pics of the train in Japan and Japan itself.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13465 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Hi Alex,

nice report about your KE A300 trip. Congratulations on getting the type into your log. KE's product doesn't look overy impressive on this sector, though.

Hi PH,

First off, thanks!

Second off, I agree with you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Great report Alex  

The AB6 is a great aircraft. There is something very special about it and I had many lovely flights on the OA ones when they were flying LHR-ATH. I love the interior of the cabin and everything about it.

Lovely pics of the train in Japan and Japan itself.

Thanks Philip  

Yeah, it's a nice piece of engineering!

Thanks again  


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5088 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13348 times:

What an awesome report! One of these days, I need to come back to Chicago and you need to give me some photography lessons! Great report as well. I LOVE Japan - and think (like you) there is a no contest with Korea. Seoul really has nothing beyond a long weekend.

I love the 300 though. I think it remains my favorite Airbus aircraft.

Thanks again for the report - though, I am surprised that the meal was so weak.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A nice female agent helped us with this process in the typical Japanese courteous way after seeing we were struggling.

= SOOO JAPAN.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
on-time. Of course it's on-time... It is Japan after all.

= I lived in Japan for a year for a project and NEVER had a delayed train. Impressive stuff.

Thanks again for the write up!

Saludos,
Alex



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2285 posts, RR: 7
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13160 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 24):
What an awesome report! One of these days, I need to come back to Chicago and you need to give me some photography lessons! Great report as well. I LOVE Japan - and think (like you) there is a no contest with Korea. Seoul really has nothing beyond a long weekend.

Thanks very much mr. Abre los ojos!

Well, you're always welcome in Chicago... Though I can't guarantee how much longer I'll be here! Photography lessons... sure... not that I'm that good myself. I just take a lot of photos  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 24):
I love the 300 though. I think it remains my favorite Airbus aircraft.

Thanks again for the report - though, I am surprised that the meal was so weak.

I like the A300 myself... Though I've no clue if I'll get one again for my log!

You're welcome again   Yeah, a bit underwhelming...

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 24):
= SOOO JAPAN.

Indeed, at least in my limited experience.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 24):
= I lived in Japan for a year for a project and NEVER had a delayed train. Impressive stuff.

Thanks again for the write up!

Haha, yeah, maybe they should let others know how it's done. No one does it quite like the Japanese... Impressive indeed.

Thanks for reading, Alex. If you ever get to Chicago, send me a message  


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