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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8521 times:

Hello
and welcome to my first trip report here on airliners.net. Even this is my first report here in this forum, I'm not a newcomer in this scene. I read nearly all the trip reports for about 3 years and I did many trips in the past 2 years. Some of them I did together with my brother, who also is in this forum (luxair747sp). My dream was it for a long time to reach a gold frequent flyer status. After searching the FFP with the lowest qualification for Gold, my adventure begun. My focus was on Star Alliance, but I firstly wanted to do BA silver (oneworld sapphire), but after I red that executive club isn't allowed for people under 18 I had to search for new option, and I found one rather quickely: Spanair Star gold with only 30 segments!
But this time there were speculations about the critical financiell situation of JK. So I finally decided for Aegean Gold. Than, I had to search options how to earn the miles the cheapest way: I was in Athens on LX Business Saver and in PHL on LH business (special offer). Luckily, they introduced their new business booking class P (saver, no miles on A3) after booking my special deal (this time it still was Z (normal mileage). So after reaching my tier in July 2012 I was happy  
Some of you could know me because I joined my brother for the a.net meeting in FRA in 2011 and a small meeting in MUC in august this year. I already did some trips since I reached my status, espacially to enjoy the Star Gold lounges.
So, now to the trip coverd in this report: FRA-ZRH-CDG on SWISS in business, the retur leg on LH economy will not be shown now because there are hundreds of reports with LH eco intraeurope.

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Booking
For both parts I booked return that means that I will do the very same trip in January again. I do this always because its much easier and cheaper booking this way on LH group airlines on intra europe flights. As well, I had to book my 'connection' on the Deutsch Bahn which means a totally overpriced ticked price of just 25 € o/w with the BahnCard 25.

November 2nd
The day started rather early I had to wake up at 3 am because I had to get my rgional express at 3.48 am. Luckily my father drove me at the station of SCN.

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After a ride of next to 3 hours, I finally arrived at FRA regio-station. I made my way to the LH FCL/ Star Gold check in, but first some impressions of FRA:

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The 'bouncer' lady in the red area wasn't unknown to me. I think it was already the 3rd that she was on this place when I checked in there and it seemed that she knowed me already becaus normally you have to show your ticket or your card but she smiled and said 'its OK'. Very different it was the first time I checked in there: the lady there was very unfriendly and surprised to see somebody in my age using this counters without adults with Gold etc. I was really impressed this time about the friendliness of the agents. Maybe its becaus A+ opend only a few weeks before  
After taking my boarding passes, I made my way to security, the fast lane is only about 50 meters away from the priority desks. It took about 2 mins with nobody in front of me. I was quite surprised about this because even in fastlane there are sometimes about 40 people in front of you but not so this day. It was the 2nd time for travelling the new A+ pier. I was with my parents in Vienna only one week ago. But now a few impressions of the new Pier:

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Now its time to go to Senator Lounge near Gate A 50. I have to say this loung is really amazing, I like the LH Seantor lounges a lot but compared to the A26 one this is like in heaven. I think its 4-times bigger than the old one. Huge buffet,relaxing areas, WORLDSHOP etc. , let pictures tell the story:

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After a good breakfast including hot items as well (the first time Ive seen this in a SEN lounge) I headed for the new gate A13 LH business lounge. The agent was surprised why I woulden't go for the SEN one but I explained that I want to see the new Business lounge as well. Inside, it was totally crowded, I think this lounge isnt bigger at all compared to the old A26 one. Not good LH, there were about 50 people without a seat. I think for a seat you have to wait for 20 min in average in the busy mornings. The SEN lounge is twice bigger I think.

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Now, I made my way for gate A02 for boarding my LX flight. They announced priority boarding even we had a busgate. Strange...After a busride of 5 mins we arrived at our A321 HB-IOF.

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On board, they had reserved 11 rows for business class that means the curtain was behind the first door. The most interesting fact is that there were only 9 people in business and economy was completely full. Very good service here. The 8 others were in row 1,2 and 3 and I was in row 7 that means 4 rows behind and 4 in front of me there was nobody. Thats business class! It should be like this every time!

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After the standard welcome speach, we made our way for runway 18 for take off.

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After take off the purser came and asked every passenger what he would like to drink and he brought it on a small tablett not on the trolley. Very personal service her again! The same with food, he brought it to the passengers by hand and he was super friendly.

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After 20 min the captain announced that we already descended, and after 30 mins we already touched down in ZRH. But I never had a better Service on such a short flight. Its the secound time for me flying this flight LX 1069 in Business, last time on an Avro, but this time it was much better.

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ZRH isnt a new airport for me, so I walked a bit around and finally made my way for the SWISS Senator Lounge.

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Not much traffic here now but after half an hour the lounge begun to fill up because the long haul rush hour is about to begin. The offers are next to the same as in the Business Lounge, sadly, and the interieur is the same as well as in the BCL. In general, I can't see a difference between the Business and the Senator Lounge. I think in the SEN there were several hot dishes, when I was in the Business Lounge a year ago, they offered only one hot dish (the famous standard pasta). Here the impressions.

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After an hour or so, I left the lounge, because my CDG flight was leaving from the new B-Pier of ZRH, well its not new anymore but the first time I experience it. I have to say that it isn't very nice in general. It looks exactely like the Skylink Terminal in Vienna and both are quite flairless and cold. The A-side here in ZRH looks much more inviting with its nice stone-bottom, here is dark plastic everywere. By the way there was something very interesting in the mainhall: they had a piano player here, that was really impressive, and I've never seen something like this before.

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So now it was time for boarding: Priority bording call was done, I was the first one in line, so the first one in the plane also. The female Maître de cabine looked at the bording pass of next to every passenger, and showed them the way to their seats, including me. Again, I have never seen this before on an A319 flight. Again, the crew was super friendly. Every C-class passenger was asked which language he is speaking. Very professionell here again. Three seats for me like on the FRA-ZRH flight.

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SWISS still is the best airline in europe if you ask me. I've never had a bad experience on them. After the safety demo, we made our way for take-off. Flight time 1 hour and 15 mins this time.

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10 mins after take off, the first of 3 drink runs was done (including one with coffee). The food was very good for such a short flight again but it could have been more. This is the one and only point in which I can critisize SWISS.

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The trays were collected and coffee with the famous SWISS chocolates was handed out. After 50 mins or so, the FO announced the descent and informed us about the weather situation in Paris, very bad, rainy and cloudy. After 70 mins in air we finally touched down in CDG and made our way for T1 satellite 6, the most strange airport terminal in the world if you ask me. It's like a, lets call it disabled spider, I don't know, everything full with tunnels and the most strange thing is that everything is in circles and round and can be quite confusing. This is my 3rd experience with CDG T1 and it's impressing me every time.

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So, after 5 mis of taxiing, we standed at the LH satellite number 6. I said goodbye to the crew and made my way to the exit.

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I checked in at FCL desk of LH for my return flight to FRA on LH economy, and went to the Senator Lounge at Satellite 6. This lounge is poor for a SEN lounge and it's under the earth, that means no windows and no natural light, quite depressive. I went upstairs again. About the LH flight there is not much to say. A standard 737-300 europe flight. I had 3 seats for myself in the exit row and the catering was the usual Käsebrot/cheese sandwich and crew was nice.

Conclusion
FRA-ZRH: Very good and personal service on SWISS as usual.
ZRH transit: Good, but not impressive SWISS SEN longe, the LH ones in FRA and MUC are definetely much better. In general, ZRH airport is very nice one, and I will travel via Zurich again for sure.
ZRH-CDG: Again impressive Business Class service for such a short flight and nice crew.
In general, I can only praise SWISS for it's amazing service, in my opinion the best service in europe, if I compare it to other STAR or OW carriers like BA or SAS. And still seems like SWISS would be something like a 'premium' airline of the Lufthansa group.

So, I have to say thank you very much for reading my first report here on anet, and if I could do something better in the future, please only say. Questions or comments are very welcome.

Elias

14 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineomidp From Canada, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7887 times:

Awesome TR, lovely pictures. Thank you  

User currently offlinejoacocifuentes From Argentina, joined Sep 2012, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7017 times:

Hello! Amazing TR and very good pics. Regarding gold status you are very lucky because you got it with segments.- For me is different because in Argentina there are no *A airlines flying, LAN, OW and AR, Skyteam.- Of course there are more little airlines but they do not belong to any alliance.- TAM is now leaving *A.- So, miles is my only option to get status.-

Greetings, Joaquin


User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

Hello omidp!

''Awesome TR, lovely pictures. Thank you''

Thank you very much for your feedback!


Hello Joaquin

''Hello! Amazing TR and very good pics.''

Thanks very much!

''Of course there are more little airlines but they do not belong to any alliance.- TAM is now leaving *A.- So, miles is my only option to get status.- ''

yes, you are right, I think as well that it is too bad that TAM leaves Star Aliiance soon, so lets hope that that *A will get new, bigger, members soon!!

Elias


User currently offlineluxair747sp From Germany, joined May 2010, 504 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6537 times:

Hi Elias,

Very nice report and good on you that you finally uploaded this report
Good pictures and the service on Swiss looked fine although the food could have been a bit more.

Thanks a lot sharing
Cheers
Johannes


User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

Hello Johannes,

thanks for your reply.
Yes, I finally loaded up ,(after 5 months or so  
I have some others wich I will post soon but this trips are even longer ago.

Elias


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6716 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

Hi Elias,

very nice first report here, was a pleasure to read. Good decision to join the writers!

Swiss' Business product is certainly impressive, cannot wait to try it again later this year. I also had wonderful crews on my California trip two years ago. A light load in the cabin doesn't only mean more space, but it can also result in a more personal service.

PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6503 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5743 times:

Hi Elias !

Nice first report with nice pictures!

I agree with you; LX is the best European carrier !

ZRH is also a great place to transit. Much easier and smaller than FRA, CDG and MUC.

Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5387 times:

Hey PH !

thanks for your reply!
yes I think too that it was a good decision to join this forum, it is a really great one !
And yes the service is good, but now after flying SQ again, I see that their are airlines wich are even much better.
But in european comparation they are still the best

Hey 777man !

thanks for your reply as well !
yes, our german airports can be very confusing esp FRA, but in ZRH this isnt the case at all


Elias


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5138 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Hey, E.,

welcome to the biz and good to see you also in MAN last weekend.
Interesting story, well done lounge pictures. That´s the way to go, definitely.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5133 times:
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Hello Emek96,

First of all, welcome to the ‘writer’s side’ of this forum. Good to see that despite your age you’re already on high FF status. Being able to visit the lounges can be a nice bonus at times!

I have had a few Swiss flights as well not so long ago and I can only mirror your experience. Although I was not in C class, the service and cabin on Swiss are really among the better ones out there.

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
welcome to my first trip report here on airliners.net.

Certainly a job well done! One minor remark: the pics are really good but next time maybe try to use another lens as well together with some fisheye shots. These tend to make you feel dizzy   

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
the most strange airport terminal in the world if you ask me.

I wouldn’t say it’s the ‘most strange’ airport but its layout is certainly not cohesive and very confusing and awkward indeed.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Hallo Elias,

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
and welcome to my first trip report here on airliners.net. Even this is my first report here in this forum, I'm not a newcomer in this scene. I read nearly all the trip reports for about 3 years and I did many trips in the past 2 years.

Welcome and we've met several times already when you came along with your big brother. Now it's good to see your reports coming online too.

Nice to follow you're travels around Europe and the several lounges. A lot of detail in pics by extensive use of a fisheye lens. Maybe another lens perspective would be good in some pictures? Try considering it, to get a more natural view.

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
About the LH flight there is not much to say. A standard 737-300 europe flight. I had 3 seats for myself in the exit row and the catering was the usual Käsebrot/cheese sandwich and crew was nice.

Don't worry we would love to see also the Economy Class flights reported of course. Flying is not only about business class and lounges, still the majority travels the normal way which is in Y, so reviews of current Y-class products are more then welcome imho.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4776 times:

Hey Markus !

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 9):

welcome to the biz and good to see you also in MAN last weekend.
Interesting story, well done lounge pictures.

Thanks a lot!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 9):
That´s the way to go, definitely.

Yes, I can only agree !

Hey Nils !

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Hello Emek96,

First of all, welcome to the ‘writer’s side’ of this forum. Good to see that despite your age you’re already on high FF status. Being able to visit the lounges can be a nice bonus at times!

For me, it is like a "personal challange" to reach FF Elite statuses, and I can profit of the miles one day e.g buying an awardticket. And yes I can only agree, lounging before the flight can be great, but in FRA I normally dont stay for a long time because the lounges there are very crowded esp. in the morninghours.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):

Certainly a job well done! One minor remark: the pics are really good but next time maybe try to use another lens as well together with some fisheye shots. These tend to make you feel dizzy

Thanks very much ! Concerning the fisheyepictures, you are right, well I am a big fan of those but I should use "normal" pictures as well. But the next 2 reports I will post will be sadly without normal ones because I didnt take any of them on my last trips, but in the future I will do so definetely !

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
I wouldn’t say it’s the ‘most strange’ airport but its layout is certainly not cohesive and very confusing and awkward indeed.

Yeah, you are right. I exaggerated maybe, but please forgive me because my missing experience  

Hey Eric !

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 11):
Welcome and we've met several times already when you came along with your big brother.

Yes, I hope we will meet us on the next meeting again !

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 11):
Nice to follow you're travels around Europe and the several lounges. A lot of detail in pics by extensive use of a fisheye lens. Maybe another lens perspective would be good in some pictures? Try considering it, to get a more natural view.

Yes as already mentioned in my reply to Nils, I will use other pictures in my reports of my next trips.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 11):
Don't worry we would love to see also the Economy Class flights reported of course. Flying is not only about business class and lounges, still the majority travels the normal way which is in Y, so reviews of current Y-class products are more then welcome imho.

OK, you are right. In this case I just thought that there are so many LH europe reports, but in the future I will post them as well, I still have some of them which I maybe will post soon !

Regards
Elias


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

Hi Elias

Welcome on board, hope you have a great stay with us  
Interesting little TR you have there, LX provided great service.
Just don't understand why the curtain on your FRA-ZRH leg was so far back, given the light load in J and full load in Y.

Glad you had some impressions about CDG T1 as well.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

Hey Marc !

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 13):
Welcome on board, hope you have a great stay with us

Thank you ! Yes, I think I will have a great stay !

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 13):
Just don't understand why the curtain on your FRA-ZRH leg was so far back, given the light load in J and full load in Y.

I didnt understand that as well, maybe that aircraft flew to IST or ATH after my flight with a good load in J-clas, but Im not sure..

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 13):
Glad you had some impressions about CDG T1 as well.

Yeah, its a very strange but interesting place to visit !

Regards
Elias


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