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Two New Aircraft Types For Me: HEL-ARN-HEL  
User currently offlinefinnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

Introduction

This trip includes my first flights with Boeing 717 and Boeing 737. This was just a trip to test these planes that are new to me, so it was a quick trip to Stockholm and back.

The route:



HEL-ARN
DY4280
Boeing B737 (LN-DYL)

This morning flight should depart at 7:00. Boarding was very fast, but I was rather annoyed.

I was happy to get a window seat and this was waiting for me when I found my seat.



I haven't seen this before. No window and it was just a normal row of seats. On the other side of the aircraft there was a window.

I knew that I wouldn't be able to take many pictures on this flight, because I didn't have a window so I decided to take a couple of shots from inside of the plane. At least I had all three seats on my side of the plane.

This is the seat next to me.



What is that square on that tray table?



It was very foggy in Helsinki.



But it cleared out as we climbed.



B737 was a bit different experience from the A320 that I usually fly with. B737 felt much more spacious than A320, but the Boeing Sky Interior may have something to do with that. I was surprised that DY has quite much legroom. I may not be the tallest man, but there was more legroom that I would need on a short flight like that.

ARN-HEL
SK708
Boeing 717 (OH-BLJ)
11:15-12:53

This flight is something that I had waited for a long time. I wanted to hear that famous noise of the engine and I decided to get near it.

Here is the mighty Rolls-Royce engine. It was much bigger than I thought it would be.



Novair next to us.



There was a elderly couple sitting behind of me, but they didn't like the noise. Immediately after the engines had been turned on, they moved to the middle part of the plane.

Seems like the rear part of the plane isn't so popular.



The seat in front of me.



Climbing.



The city of Mariehamn, Åland.



Mariehamn Airport.



Guess the airport (this is tough).



Back at HEL.



This has become a tradition for me in these trip reports, so I end this report to a terminal picture as well as my previous trip reports.



B717 was a very different experience for me. I haven't really flown much with aircraft that has engines somewhere else than under the wings and it was a nice experience. I know there is a lot of fans of these noisy aircraft, but I still prefer A320 instead of any Boeing narrowbody aircraft. I don't have anything against Boeing, but that noise is fun for 10 minutes and then it gets annoying. I can stand that for an hour, but after that I would also change my seat if possible. In my opinion A320 is just more silent.
I couln't hear a thing from the speakers of the B717.

Conclusions

Two new aircraft types for me, but I won't probably start to fly with them very often. I know a lot of you may disagree with me, but I would prefer more silent aircraft. Even as an aviation enthusiast I would choose maybe more boring A320 in stead of B717 or MD80. I would fly with those to Stockholm and back, but flying with them to London would be too much for me. I would even pay more to get to fly with Airbus. That sound from the engines was just a roaring noise, that is not meant for me.

Thanks for reading!

My previous trip reports

First Time Longhaul & USA With Long Delay (by finnishway Jan 15 2013 in Trip Reports)
First TR! Summer Holiday: HEL-MUC-BCN (by finnishway Jul 16 2012 in Trip Reports)

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 week ago) and read 3739 times:

Quoting finnishway (Thread starter):
but the Boeing Sky Interior may have something to do with that.

Indeed it did; as much as I love my venerable, dependable 737s, the A320 is a roomier plane.

Quoting finnishway (Thread starter):
I was happy to get a window seat and this was waiting for me when I found my seat.

The air conditioning duct passes from what we call the "snake-pit" in the belly to the ceiling through a rectangular area where your window would otherwise have been. It's irritating, but the A320 also prominently features this annoying design, as do many other Boeing and Airbus aircraft types. The Douglas aircraft didn't, because their A/C packs are in the tail, and the air is ducted directly to the ceiling distribution from the tail compartment.

Quoting finnishway (Thread starter):
I know a lot of you may disagree with me, but I would prefer more silent aircraft. Even as an aviation enthusiast I would choose maybe more boring A320 in stead of B717 or MD80.

You're a bit silly! Had you considered the quietest option of all? The FORWARD portion of the 717? Quieter than anywhere on an A320 or 737. And you're raising my eyebrow, calling yourself an "enthusiast" when you prefer the two most mundane airliners ever produced to, well, ANYthing else!


User currently offlinefinnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
The air conditioning duct passes from what we call the "snake-pit" in the belly to the ceiling through a rectangular area where your window would otherwise have been.

Thanks, now I know the reason for that.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
You're a bit silly! Had you considered the quietest option of all? The FORWARD portion of the 717?

I wanted to experience that noise. I knew it would be loud and I mentioned I can stand that for a short flight like that, but I wouldn't like sit near the engine for many hours. The forward part of the plane was a business class section, so at least 10 first rows were not possible for me, because I paid for economy.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
And you're raising my eyebrow, calling yourself an "enthusiast" when you prefer the two most mundane airliners ever produced to, well, ANYthing else!

Well, that is your opinion. If I wouldn't be an enthusiast (in my own opinion) I wouldn't be writing here at all. We like different kind of things. Somebody likes B757 and says it is the most beautiful aircraft ever made. I highly disagree. I don't like it at all, it is not the most beautiful aircraft ever made and I would choose A321 instead. This is just my opinion and in my mind it is as "right" as yours.


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3388 times:
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Quoting finnishway (Thread starter):

That can't be on your flight path?? Can't recall any airports that would have two RW's that crosses each other.

[EDIT] I take it back. Quick looking at lentopaikat.net and found it. It must be EFIK  Wink

[Edited 2013-04-12 04:32:24]


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User currently offlinefinnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting teme82 (Reply 3):
It must be EFIK

Correct. I took me for a while to search which airport it is. I used Google Earth.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 days ago) and read 3112 times:

Quoting finnishway (Reply 2):
Thanks, now I know the reason for that.

No problem; if you have any other 737 questions, feel free to ask me. I spend 40+ hours a week working on them! But I don't know everything.

Quoting finnishway (Reply 2):
I wanted to experience that noise. I knew it would be loud and I mentioned I can stand that for a short flight like that, but I wouldn't like sit near the engine for many hours. The forward part of the plane was a business class section, so at least 10 first rows were not possible for me, because I paid for economy.

Well yes, but you can't very well say, "I wanted to experience the noise," and then turn around and say that the plane is so loud you'll fly on something else in the future, when you COULD have sat in the forward section of economy class, and enjoyed one of the quietest rides in the sky.

Quoting finnishway (Reply 2):
Well, that is your opinion. If I wouldn't be an enthusiast (in my own opinion) I wouldn't be writing here at all. We like different kind of things. Somebody likes B757 and says it is the most beautiful aircraft ever made. I highly disagree. I don't like it at all, it is not the most beautiful aircraft ever made and I would choose A321 instead. This is just my opinion and in my mind it is as "right" as yours.

Sure, and I get that. But I still say that we should value the rarer things, as opposed to the mundane 737's and A32X's.
Me, personally, I'd rather a DC-10, a DC-9, a Fokker, an AvroRJ.... any of these fun, weird, or obsolete planes!


User currently offlinefinnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
you COULD have sat in the forward section of economy class, and enjoyed one of the quietest rides in the sky.

That is true, but I just wanted to test the B717. I wouldn't fly with it if I can choose one of the "mundane" planes.

Is there something to prove that B717 is quieter than A320 or B737?

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
But I still say that we should value the rarer things, as opposed to the mundane 737's and A32X's.

Yes, I appreciate rarer things, but I don't have anything against these "mundane" planes. I like them, because they are planes that we often fly with. It is nice to test something rarer, but I can conform to this decade. I like modern things and I don't yearn for planes from decades ago.


User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Great trip report, always nice to see reports that feature B717.

The only plane with tail mounted engines I've been on is Fokker 100, somehow I didn't find it noisy at all although I sat on the second last row.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Me, personally, I'd rather a DC-10, a DC-9, a Fokker, an AvroRJ.... any of these fun, weird, or obsolete planes!

I agree. Thankfully I've already been on MD-11 (though I was so young I don't remember anything about it), Avro RJ & Fokker 100 which are all becoming more and more rare...

[Edited 2013-04-14 08:47:03]


"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlinefinnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 7):
The only plane with tail mounted engines I've been on is Fokker 100, somehow I didn't find it noisy at all although I sat on the second last row.

Fokker 100 has different and smaller engines than B717 which could be one reason for less noise and maybe it has a better soundproofing or something like that.


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