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Meeting Of MAN On BM & SQ: ANR-MAN-MUC  
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 10682 times:
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Introduction

About half a year ago, a proposal was made by fellow a.net member MSS68 to hold a meeting at MAN airport. Boasting a pretty nice viewing park next to the runways, an aviation shop and some plane oldtimers - with a Concorde amongst those - made this venue and event quite an interesting one to attend. Not in the least supported by the fact that I would be able to see some (many) friends again after the meeting in TXL in June 2012.
Thus my name was on the ‘attendees’ list pretty soon and the one and important thing remaining was of course figuring out a nice and circuitous itinerary to get there as well as booking a place to spend the night.

Many of you probably know that Singapore Airlines has a SIN-MUC-MAN flight for sale, with full traffic rights for the MUC-MAN or vice versa sector. This 5th freedom flight is quite popular with us a.netters and is a good way of sampling Singapore Airlines’ very fine onboard service. A no brainer really and MAN-MUC was booked for € 122 one way. Not cheap, I know, but totally worth it imho! Further on I connected the dots with a MUC-STR flight on Augsburg Airways or Lufthansa Regional if you will for
€ 59. I might as well try that airline before it gets dumped by Lufthansa in Oct 2013, sadly enough. Finally, a seat on STR-BRU was secured by another member of the Lufthansa group, namely Germanwings. Price: € 49. It looked as if these flights were there for each other, complementing perfectly with good timings and connection times   

So I was able to get home, but how to get in MAN then? Well, since some 8 months now, BMI regional has filled the gap that Cityjet left when ending its ANR-MAN flights about 1,5 years ago. It’s really good to see this route back in ANR as the airport is really close to where I live thus making it very convenient. I initially booked a Sat morning flight to MAN on BMI regional for € 59 but a few weeks after the booking I received an email informing me that the Sat flight was cancelled for good leaving me with a rebooking or refunding option. A rebooking it was, for Fri evening, of course at no extra cost.

At last I booked a bed in the Holiday Inn Manchester Airport and another one in the Radisson Blu Manchester airport for the next night. The Radisson is in fact situated in the airport itself, making it an ideal place to stay for the early departure on Sunday morning with Singapore Airlines.

In this report I will only cover the ANR-MAN-MUC flights. I think this is also the 1st report on the ANR-MAN flight operated by BMI regional.

To sum it up here’s the overall itinerary::

ANR-MAN on BMI regional Embraer 135
MAN-MUC on Singapore Airlines B77W
MUC-STR on Augsburgs Airways Q8/400
STR-BRU on Germanwings A319

And the flights featured in this report on a map (thanks to the excellent Great Circle Mapper, copyright Karl L Schwartz):


After a full day at work and a bite to eat at home, I leave for the airport by the local bus. 20 minutes later

Antwerp International Airport - ANR

I enter the terminal building only to see that checkin hasn’t opened yet (BMI regional has no OLCI possibility at this moment).



These are all of todays flights. On a normal weekday - it is Easter holiday week now - there’s one more Cityjet flight to LCY at 7:50am.


At 6:10pm, the checkin is declared ‘open for business’ and I’m the 1st passenger to be served by a friendly young woman. I ask for a left side window seat as far forward as possible. She says the best best she can give me is 8A, the exit row. Weight and balance purposes you know   So 8A it is. I do like exit rows but I also like an obstructed view down so I’m in dubio here   

Luckily I have ample time for a beer so I had to the adjacent café annex restaurant called Belair to start the weekend off on the right foot. This place has nice apron views but unfortunately the apron action in ANR is very, very limited with only a few movements per day.

All of a sudden, my plane taxies in and I didn’t even hear or see it land  Wow! It’s just what I was after: an Embraer 135   


Taxiing in...


...and parking right in front of the café window:


I finish the beer and head airside. I overhear the gate agent saying that the load is 21 pax (out of 37 seats), so that makes a 56% load factor.


At 19:20pm sharp, the doors are opened and we are allowed to walk our way to our vessel.


ANR to MAN
BM1508
Embraer ERJ-135 G-RJXL
STD-STA 19h40-20h00
Y class
seat 8F + 3F


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She’a a beauty and one of the not so many ERJ-135’ers flying around in Europe.


This way, she looks like an MD-80. Well, at least a little bit  


Type designation on the fuselage:


One male steward on this service to MAN greeting the incoming pax at the door. First impressions are really good, the cabin is small - as expected - but the leather seats are quite comfortable and more importantly, the windows are very large:








The overhead panel from a different angle:


The legroom in the exit row is good as well, too bad about the wing obstructing my view down.


In the seat pocket is an ‘exit row safety instruction briefing’, the FA also passes by me to make sure I know what to do. Yes, I do!

Some more paperwork and then we’re good to go. The captain is over the mic with a warm welcome and mentions the flight time as 1h05 mins with smooth conditions all the way.


Here we go:






Takeoff is from 11. As opposed to my flight CPH-RNN last week, I can’t help noticing how quiet this little baby is.

There are some familiar down, we even fly over my house but I’m at the wring side for that to see. This road we overfly is about to be tunneled to allow for the contruction of a longer runway and safety perimeter. Lot’s of discussions going on over that topic  




As the seat belt sign is extinguished, I get up for a lavatory visit which is located in the rear of the cabin.
The exit row seats have a brown headrest as can be seen here:


I decide to switch places and take seat 3A iso 8A. Much better viewing, but the space is less as well of course (still acceptable though). Next to me is the luggage compartment. The overhead bins are not able to accomodate large trolleys and apparently they’re not put in the hold either?


Service is next: a free cheese of bacon sandwich, hot and cold drinks, spirits, sweet or salty snacks,... it’s all there. I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich. The tray table is too small to accomodate it all   


Some reminiscents of the past:


Although I’ve already eaten @ home I’m able to finish the sandwich. It’s a tight squeeze!

Here’s what’s in the seat pocket:


I don’t bother to look in the magazine and listen to some soothing tunes on my tablet.
Outside it is overcast:


Not before long, the descent towards MAN is initiated. The front office comes on again explaining we will be a while later due to having to circle around a few times as a consequence of busy arrival traffic this
evening. We do are guaranteed an early arrival on stand though.

During the turns the sun plays some games and this gives some nice effects:






Some traffic going up whilst we are winding down:


There also appear to be some snow leftovers down there:


The UK landscape unfolds as we come under the clouds:


Preparations for a party of some sorts?


An impressive 25 mins ahead of schedule, we pass the perimeter of MAN and land on 05L after flying for 1h05. A short ride later, we make a halt at a seemingly strange parking spot. Now I’m not familiar with MAN but a look on Google Maps afterwards revealed that this indeed was a designated parking area for 1 (small) aircraft.




We have to wait a while because the cars block the way for the bus to come through  


Taken from the bus:



Manchester Ringway Airport - MAN

After disembarkation, we drive to the T3 arrivals area and after a quick visit to the immigration folks, I’m out in the public and meet up with some other participants who dripple in from all over Europe. Definitely very nice to see some familiar and some new faces again! We have some drinks in the bar area of the Radisson Blu Manchester Airport where you have excellent apron views. After that, it is to Holiday Inn Manchester Hotel for a good nights sleep!

The next morning features an English brekkie, and a nice walk in the sun to the Runway Visitor Park which is an excellently laid out facility to watch planes come and go. Luckily the weather is all good and we have a great few hours of talking and photographing.

Here are a few shots taken with my pocket camera:

Jet2:




Virgin Atlantic aka ‘Little Red’:


Virgin Atlantic aka ‘Big Red’  


United:


Monarch:


BA’s dove, how I like this scheme!


FlyBE:




Turkish Airlines:


The Titan!


And the last but not least, here’s the KLM, loaded with another bunch of a.netters who’ll be joining the meet:


In the late afternoon yet again, we head for some more drinks in the bar of the


and go the city of Manchester for a nice meal at the Zinc restaurant. All in all, a day well spent in good company!

The next morning sees me flying ‘the long way’ home again. The first flight today is on Singapore Airlines, going to MUC. Some other a.netters have also booked a seat on this flight, amongst them are makeree, PlaneHunter, luxair747sp and Emek96.
Singapore flies out of T2, which is not overly busy at this time of the day (around 7:00 am):


I like the way how the information is projected onto the screens above the desks:


My class of travel today and I’m quite happy with that:


Terminal area airside:


No gate info yet:


After security we head for the lounge, where makeree kindly guests me in (thanks again!). The others also join after a while and we have a nice morning chat with coffee and a bite to eat.
The view from the lounge:


Then it’s time to head for the gate. The inbound is being serviced. Good to see that Singapore sent in a B77W version today by the likes of 9V-SWQ:






Judging by the amount of people at the gate, the load will be rather light this morning. Boarding begins well on time and is structurized. Families and children, status holders and then the others. Isn’t this a bit weird:


As I’m seated in the very back of the plane, I can board fairly quick.


MAN to MUC
SQ327
Boeing B777W 9V-SWQ
STD-STA 9h10-12h15
Y class
seat 56K


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A warm welcome at the door and I turn right at the second aisle, through the business class cabin - where PlaneHunter shall reside for the coming 1h30m. Such luxurious seats and the IFE screens are just huge:


The first part of the economy cabin features blue and brown tones:


And large PTV’s in every seatback:




There’s a a change of colours for the second economy cabin, but my seat is a mix of all colours used  


Looking accross from my seat. Note that I’m seated in the last row, in the only pair of 2-seaters in the house (in Y), and that the recline of these seats is limited. However I was aware of that because during the OLCI this was clearly indicated on the seatmap. Also windowless seats are indicated on the seatmap   


The legroom is really good and footrests are present although I find this feature not of much use.


During boarding some soothing classical musical is played, luxair747sp, who is seated just in front of me, even knows the composer  Wow! Here’s the PTV up close and personal; it can be tilted horizontally to a large extent. There are 3 buttons just below the screen, the left one activates a led light that illuminates the tray table, how clever is that!


Lots of power and other sockets are present:




And a mirror on the back side of the foldable tray table:


I’m sat no longer than 2 minutes and I’m impressed already. I’ve never seen a cabin and seat with so many useful and clever features.

Looking outside, there’s some interesting activity as well. This Privilege Style B752 operates a flight to BCN this morning:


And this Swiss bus has fellow a.netter SloAir on board if I’m not mistaken:


Carpets anyone?


Now let’s get back to the order of the day. The usual welcome and other annoucements are made and let’s not forget the (very) hot towel service which is greatly appreciated:


Headphones and menus are handed out as well:


And last but not least, the seat pocket holds a library of magazines to satisfy ones reading hunger:


First impressions of the crew are very good as well, they are friendly and courteous. I also notice throughout the flight that all onboard procedures, going from the boarding and safety demo to the meal service and disembarkation, are carefully minutiously executed. It gives a bit of an ‘automated process’ feeling. Luckily the crew also takes the time to interact with the passengers and make them feel at home.

An extended welcome from the cockpit crew this morning. Also during the flight they manage to take the time to talk to us passengers and keep us updated on the flight progress   

We leave the gate before schedule and taxi to the runway. Etihad has sent a logojet into MAN today and quite an appropriate one:


And the Titan is also on its way out:


There’s no shortage of Thomson planes...




23R for us this morning:


I would rate the takeoff as ‘moderate’ for a T7, but afterwards the PlaneHunter assured me that ‘it wasn’t that bad!’. As he’s a lot more experienced than I am in that matter, I give him the benefit of the doubt. The opinion of The777Man would’ve come in very handy now    Well, at least we got off the ground and that’s what counts.

There’s the viewing park (where that cutoff nose section is)!


For our viewing pleasure, the pilot makes a nice turn over the airport. Good views galore!




We fly again over the area where the BMI regional flight passed over and the snow is still there:


Meanwhile, the cabin crew is released and the carts come out with the brekkie. I get the IFE in working order and switch it to the ‘inflight map’ status. I didn’t fancy looking at all the other items. Besides, there are more than enough extensive reviews on the KrisWorld system here on the board.

It is difficuly to take a decent pic without a mirror effect. I didn’t succeed, so that’s yours truly behind the Lumix:


Breakfast is a choice between a chicken sandwich and something else - can’t quite remember. My question for a morning ‘Singapore Sling’ is met with a friendly “Certainly sir, I will get that for you”.


Metal cutlery in economy class? And no, I didn’t liberate any of those!


Enjoying my breakfast over the Channel, the sandwich is really good and filling and goes well with the Singapore Sling  


The trays are cleared and I spend the remaining time listening to some music and gazing out the window...


CGN airport:


The weather at destination is not really good, overcast. This becomes quite evident when we enter the last stage of the flight on descent into MUC.








Eventually we touchdown on 26R (I believe, PlaneHunter, correct me if I’m wrong  ). After taxi we hold a while on the taxiway for our parking position to become vacant. Also here, the cockpit crew keeps us well informed as to why we have stopped   


It’s my first visit to MUC and due to an almost symmetrical (well, sort of) layout I’m having difficulties orientating myself   






Finally, we turn into the gate, next to a Lufty and a Qatari:




I disembark and thank the crew for the most excellent flight. And with that, my maiden voyage on Singapore Airlines has come to an end 


Munich Franz Josef Strauss airport - MUC

Out in the terminal, I rejoin my fellow travellers and we all agree that this flight was top notch in every aspect. Once in the arrivals zone, I say goodbye to luxair747sp and Emek96 who will continue their journey by car.

Holy water:




I have 3h in MUC and as a bonus, PlaneHunter proposes to take makeree and me for an airport tour in his own ‘777’. That’s an offer too good to refuse so we gladly say yes!

We visit the 2 main spotting places around the airport, here are a few pics:








The grassy hill to the other side is a spotter’s place, and a quite nice one too!


After the tour, PlaneHunter kindly drops us of at the terminal again as it’s time for me to continue my journey home on Augsburgs Airways and Germanwings. I will not got into detail on these flights anymore, I just leave you with a few impressions:

A sight soon no more... 




Cabin view:


Prop view (for fellow a.netter palmjet):


Landing gear view:


A reminder of my previous report:
A Bit Of This And DAT: CPH-RNN-CPH (by sultanils Apr 4 2013 in Trip Reports)


Luckily I got one in the old livery!




Sans mots...


Conclusion

BMI regional has very well filled the gap that Cityjet has left. The service to MAN is a very good alternative to the SN one from BRU. Free catering, attractive fares and ANR is as convenient as it gets. On top of that you get to fly in a rather exclusive plane type - probably most pax don’t care about that - which makes it in total an excellent value for money deal. Yours to take while it lasts   

Singapore Airlines, a great way to fly? It certainly is, if not one of the best! The cabin comfort is top notch, the Y seat has more amenities than a standard C class seat on any other airline (or nearly  ), the catering is very good and the flight attendants are very (perhaps a bit too?) professional and friendly as well. If I ever get the opportunity to fly them on longhaul, I certainly will, even if that means paying more. 2   !

As for the MAN meet, thanks to all for attending, there’s too many names to mention and I don’t want to offend anyone that I might forget   See you hopefully all again sometime, somewhere (else)?

I’ll leave you all here, if you got this far, I thank you for reading and feel free to leave me a comment  

Sultanils


In thrust we trust.
29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26951 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10386 times:

Hey Nils  

Gret report. Your really shunting them out these days good to see  

Glad you enjoyed the meet. Nice spotting pics. The highlight of the return trip with SQ was very nice and glad you enjoyed it. I remember my first SQ flight too ATH-IST. Something always very special and exciting about your first SQ flight. They really do have a nice product.

Anyway looking forward to the next one . Next week maybe ? lol...


Chat soon

Philip  


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10365 times:
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Hi Nils!

Nice to see the second report on the MAN meet. Another entertaining report you made here with many nice pictures! Both BMI Regional and SQ look quite impressive here. I must get to booking that 5th freedom route!
I sure had a great time in MAN and it was very nice to finally meet you!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This road we overfly is about to be tunneled to allow for the contruction of a longer runway and safety perimeter. Lot’s of discussions going on over that topic

Those discussions happen way to often when it gets to runway/airport expansions!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The overhead bins are not able to accomodate large trolleys and apparently they’re not put in the hold either?

Is that even allowed?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich

Very impressive service here!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
During the turns the sun plays some games and this gives some nice effects

Stunning pictures!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
BA’s dove, how I like this scheme!

Same here, shame they will disappear soon

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
the pilot makes a nice turn over the airport. Good views galore!

Great overview, these kind of shots sure are my favorite  

Once again it was nice to meet you and hope to see you again soon!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10191 times:

Hi Nils!

Great report once again, Bmi Regional seems like a nice little carrier. Hope that they survive. I always knew SQ were good and your flight just proves that.  

I saw in your MUC pics that you got one of the FI 757 operating FI532/533. Last time you had TF-FIX in KEF... is that a new habit of yours to include FI 757s in your reports?  

Regards!
Sveinn  



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9554 times:
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@ OA260:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Hey Nils

Hi Philip mate, how are you!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Gret report. Your really shunting them out these days good to see

Thanks, glad you liked it. Backlog cleared as well lol!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
The highlight of the return trip with SQ was very nice and glad you enjoyed it. I remember my first SQ flight too ATH-IST.

SQ is a league of their own, really a top notch airline. What eqpt did you have on ATH-IST? Is/was that a 5th freedom route as well?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
They really do have a nice product.

They do, with a lot of attention to detail.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Next week maybe ?

Guess not 

@adamspotter:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
Hi Nils!

Hello Brendan, thanks for your comment!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
Nice to see the second report on the MAN meet.
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
Another entertaining report you made here with many nice pictures!

Thank you very much. I used to publish 1st but not anymore, busy busy busy  

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
I must get to booking that 5th freedom route!

Do so, I promise a 100% satisfaction or money back guarantee!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
and it was very nice to finally meet you!

Likewise. We might meet again on a next meet somewhere, sometime!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
Is that even allowed?

I can't tell. Other airlines label these with 'delivery at aircraft' or so. Is the hold too small? Don't know...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 2):
Great overview, these kind of shots sure are my favorite

Mine as well, usually views are obscured at these low alts but that day we were lucky.

@ SRQKEF:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Hi Nils!

Hello Sveinn!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Great report once again

Many thanks for that!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Bmi Regional seems like a nice little carrier. Hope that they survive.

They were a really nice surprise. Another carrier operating a more premium product (catering I mean) into ANR (which is mainly a business airport). BMI will survive I guess but I hope this route will last.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
I always knew SQ were good and your flight just proves that.

SQ is not good, it is excellent   Too bad they don't do Iceland...

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 3):
Last time you had TF-FIX in KEF... is that a new habit of yours to include FI 757s in your reports?

I didn't mind the regs but now you say so   Pure coincidence. It happens to be that every time I want to take a pic, there's an Icelandair B757 in the way. Not that I mind though...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1290 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9209 times:

Hi there Nils, great to read your impression of the meet.

Good choice of flights with the BMI regional and the SQ from MAN. Not seen one from the new BMI, and they look pretty good actually. Just a shame they don't fly from anywhere near me! SQ also look very good - they're an airline in the to do list.



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9062 times:

Hello Nils

Great report and thanks for sharing! It was a pleasure seeing you again in Manchester.
The BM flight from ANR looks to be a very comfortable one, service even a bit better than my BCY flight to LCY earlier that day. I have only great words to say as well about SQ, I did the same flight last summer (report to follow very soon).

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
These are all of todays flights. On a normal weekday - it is Easter holiday week now - there’s one more Cityjet flight to LCY at 7:50am.

Hah... My Cityjet to LCY is on that same list, nice too see the FIDS after my departure.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8926 times:

Hey Nils!

Very nice report of your trip to the meeting!
SQ is just so great, I can only agree after that flight

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
my maiden voyage on Singapore Airlines has come to an end

The flight could have been some hours longer I can only agree, but maybe next time...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I have 3h in MUC and as a bonus, PlaneHunter proposes to take makeree and me for an airport tour in his own ‘777’. That’s an offer too good to refuse so we gladly say yes!

I think thats quite popular in last time, I also have the Planehunter 777 in my log  

But again SQ is so great, I think they are even THE BEST...

Thanks again for this report
and I think Johannes will post our trip to the meet soon as well

Regards

Elias


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1454 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8407 times:

Hi Nils,

This was a nice surprise to find your report of the MAN here so quickly. It was indeed a super weekend and it was good to see you again.

You certainly chose some interesting flights, that SQ MAN-MUC service is something I really should do one day. The ERJ-135 is a good catch too.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are some familiar down, we even fly over my house but I’m at the wring side for that to see.

That’s one of the most frustrating things when flying: you know you house is down there but you’re on the wrong side!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The overhead bins are not able to accomodate large trolleys and apparently they’re not put in the hold either?

Perhaps because of the light load? Surely they’d have to be put in the hold on a full flight?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Service is next: a free cheese of bacon sandwich, hot and cold drinks, spirits, sweet or salty snacks,... it’s all there. I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich. The tray table is too small to accomodate it all


Nice to see BMI Regional have kept up the same level of service. Those sandwiches are always very tasty!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There also appear to be some snow leftovers down there:

Yeah, Northern England had quite some snow and those hills are the Pennines, where it lasts a bit longer.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Now I’m not familiar with MAN but a look on Google Maps afterwards revealed that this indeed was a designated parking area for 1 (small) aircraft.

Very observant of you! They seem to park the ERJ-135s there plus some private jets.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And the last but not least, here’s the KLM, loaded with another bunch of a.netters who’ll be joining the meet:

  

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There’s a a change of colours for the second economy cabin, but my seat is a mix of all colours used

I think I ended up with a multi-coloured seat on one of my flights too.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And a mirror on the back side of the foldable tray table

Well done, it took me 3 flights to discover it!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And this Swiss bus has fellow a.netter SloAir on board if I’m not mistaken:

I think he took the lunchtime flight?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Breakfast is a choice between a chicken sandwich and something else - can’t quite remember.

Not a bad spread for such a short flight, but then again, nothing else expected of SQ.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Metal cutlery in economy class? And no, I didn’t liberate any of those!

Tempting though, isn’t it?!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Luckily I got one in the old livery!

Let’s see what I get with them tomorrow, I’m hoping for the new livery.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
If I ever get the opportunity to fly them on longhaul, I certainly will, even if that means paying more. 2 !

I’m sure you won’t be disappointed  

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8241 times:

Hey Nils,

Nice to see another report of yours. It’s great that you managed to combine an a.net meeting with registering the SQ 5th Freedom between MAN and MUC. I’m also glad you guys had fun in MAN.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Boasting a pretty nice viewing park next to the runways, an aviation shop and some plane oldtimers - with a Concorde amongst those - made this venue and event quite an interesting one to attend.

MAN surely caters well to the aviation enthusiast. Too bad I wasn’t (even remotely) into aviation when MAN was my home airport.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
adjacent café annex restaurant called Belair

Is it owned by Albanian ex-pats? Oh, wait that’s Belle Air…

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All of a sudden, my plane taxies in and I didn’t even hear or see it land

Well, the E135 did grow up in the jungle after all. It knows well how to be stealthy and sneak up on you…

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Next to me is the luggage compartment. The overhead bins are not able to accomodate large trolleys and apparently they’re not put in the hold either?

Do safety regulations allow this? What if there is severe turbulence and those bags start flying around people's heads?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The legroom is really good and footrests are present although I find this feature not of much use.

I think footrests of this kind are stupid. As if legroom wasn’t tight enough, they put those metal rests right in the middle of where your knees touch the front seat. For us that are of slightly above average height those footrests (especially the ones that fold upwards) are a nightmare. Footrests that lay down below the seat (and can be folded down there) are OK though.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And a mirror on the back side of the foldable tray table:

That is actually a pretty cool idea. Nice!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And no, I didn’t liberate any of those!

George W Bush would be very disappointed in you.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
It’s my first visit to MUC and due to an almost symmetrical (well, sort of) layout I’m having difficulties orientating myself

I’m shocked that you’d never been to MUC before (being a frequent flier living in Europe). How is this even statistically possible?  .

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Holy water:

Never seen such a thing before. Pardon my ignorance, but I'm guessing this is some sort of water hauled from Mecca or something?

Thanks for the nice read, Nils. I wish I could have been there to join you guys.

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1660 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8152 times:

Dear Nils,

An excellent report with simple detail and very nice pictures. Congratulations on your first SQ experience!

I haven't been too big of an SQ fan, but after a few flights with them last year and this year, all that has changed. I am also a very big fan of SQ's Economy Class product, and it could easily be the best of its kind out there! Catering, service, hardware, the works; all of it is simply excellent.

Unfortunately, my favorite airline (CX) has cut back on a lot of things in Economy Class, but it all seems to still be around on SQ!

The same can be said about your flight!

Many thanks for sharing this with us.

Cheers,
Roni



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8144 times:
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@ jwhite9185:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 5):
Hi there Nils, great to read your impression of the meet.

Hi there as well James-ie, thanks for your comments!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 5):
Not seen one from the new BMI, and they look pretty good actually.

I belive I have myself a premiere here, at least for the ANR-MAN route  

@ MSS658:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
Hello Nils

Hi Marc.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
Great report and thanks for sharing! It was a pleasure seeing you again in Manchester

Thank you. Isn’t it funny although we live relatively close together we get to meet each other in a far off place?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
The BM flight from ANR looks to be a very comfortable one, service even a bit better than my BCY flight to LCY earlier that day.

The main difference in my opinion is the better cabin comfort on the ERJ135, the windows are larger and better positiioned and THAT is a very important aspect for an a.netter 

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
I have only great words to say as well about SQ

You told me I would be excited out them, yes!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
My Cityjet to LCY is on that same list, nice too see the FIDS after my departure.


Now you say so, indeed I didn’t notice that yet! You left well on time it seems  

@ Emek96:

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
Hey Nils!

Hey Elias!

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
Very nice report of your trip to the meeting!

Thanks, I’m glad you liked it.

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
SQ is just so great, I can only agree after that flight

That makes 2 of us  

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
I think thats quite popular in last time, I also have the Planehunter 777 in my log

Have you? Well, it is a nice and exclusive ‘jet’ for the log, isn’t it?

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
But again SQ is so great, I think they are even THE BEST...

I dare not say it’s ‘the best’ but they definitely play in a higher league  

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 7):
I think Johannes will post our trip to the meet soon as well

Looking forward to that one then!

@ infodesk:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Hi Nils,

Hi Hannah, how are you?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
This was a nice surprise to find your report of the MAN here so quickly.

Thanks, I must admit though that my writing speed has drastically declined. I used to publish the next day lol!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
It was indeed a super weekend and it was good to see you again.

Likewise!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
You certainly chose some interesting flights

I did my best. ANR is the ultimate in ‘convenient airports’ for me, so that was an obvious choice. I do hope that BM maintain the route. As for SQ, no explanation needed why one should use that carrier   

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
That’s one of the most frustrating things when flying: you know you house is down there but you’re on the wrong side!

Rightly so. But I wanted a seat in the 1-seaters on the left side although I knew I should’ve take a right side seat. Oh well...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Perhaps because of the light load? Surely they’d have to be put in the hold on a full flight?

I think so, yes. But they could cause a safety issue here methinks///

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
those hills are the Pennines

Thanks for clarifying, I didn’t know. The ‘A’pennines exist as well, but that couldn’t be possible  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Very observant of you! They seem to park the ERJ-135s there plus some private jets.

OK, you as a regular MAN visitor seem to have the inside information!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Well done, it took me 3 flights to discover it!

Lol, and I thought that women were so attentive to details  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
I think he took the lunchtime flight?

I’m just passing on the info that luxair747sp gave me   To be confirmed!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Not a bad spread for such a short flight, but then again, nothing else expected of SQ.

And you oughta know, having had your fair share of longhauls with them!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Tempting though, isn’t it?!

I’m not the collector’s type, ask my wife   

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Let’s see what I get with them tomorrow, I’m hoping for the new livery

Flying 4U, are U? Good luck on the livery then!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
I’m sure you won’t be disappointed

I’m quite sure now.

@ widebodyroga:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Hey Nils,

Hey Stojan!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Nice to see another report of yours.

Thanks, the pleasure is all mine.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Too bad I wasn’t (even remotely) into aviation when MAN was my home airport.

Have you had the honours of calling MAN your home airport? You’re a real man of the world my friend!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Oh, wait that’s Belle Air…

Pun intended?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
It knows well how to be stealthy and sneak up on you…

Just like a praying mantis...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Do safety regulations allow this? What if there is severe turbulence and those bags start flying around people's heads?

I was asking myself the same question. I think it was mostly a question of convenience for the involved passengers.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
I think footrests of this kind are stupid.

We share the same height and opinion on this one 

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
George W Bush would be very disappointed in you.

Why would he?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
I’m shocked that you’d never been to MUC before (being a frequent flier living in Europe). How is this even statistically possible?

I’m not the frequent flyer you think I am. MUC is an expensive destination (LH territory!) and given the fact that I mostly do daytrips and oneway fares I’ve never had the possibilty to go there until now.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm guessing this is some sort of water hauled from Mecca or something?

It is.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
I wish I could have been there to join you guys.

Some day I’m sure and I hope you will!

Sultanils



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

Hi, N.,

good work here with text and story, well done.
Sure a nice combination Tripreporter style to go for MAN and beyond.
These BMI regional service is sure an interesting one.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):

As for the MAN meet, thanks to all for attending, there’s too many names to mention and I don’t want to offend anyone that I might forget   See you hopefully all again sometime, somewhere (else)?

Perfectly good to meet you there, nice talking and hope to do this again maybe soon at ZRH?.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Have you had the honours of calling MAN your home airport? You’re a real man of the world my friend!

Yeah, it was my home airport when I lived in Northern Wales back in the early 2000s. I used to fly in and out of MAN constantly. Spent quite a few nights there too waiting for really early departures... For me, MAN means nostalgia.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Pun intended?

Most definitely  .

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Why would he?

As a "liberator" of many things (Iraq, Afghanistan, the US budget surplus, etc) he is probably expecting others to follow his lead... Lame, I know.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
I’m not the frequent flyer you think I am. MUC is an expensive destination (LH territory!) and given the fact that I mostly do daytrips and oneway fares I’ve never had the possibilty to go there until now.

Gotcha. Next time you're there try some of the weisswurst that the various airside MUC restaurants serve. They are splendid!



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User currently offlineconrad From Germany, joined Feb 2009, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7751 times:
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The BMI may be the Past or the Future as bmi regional thinks to drop the regional as they bought the whole name rights of BMI.
At least news from CH Aviation says this.


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7534 times:
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@ ronerone:

Quoting ronerone (Reply 10):
Dear Nils

Dear Roni, thanks for your reply.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 10):
An excellent report with simple detail and very nice pictures.

Thanks again, I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 10):
Congratulations on your first SQ experience!

Ha ha, there must be a first for all and I'm glad I was able to do this route to have a small taste of SQ's fine servive. It definitely asks for more!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 10):
and it could easily be the best of its kind out there! Catering, service, hardware, the works; all of it is simply excellent.

I can only agree, top rated in every aspect.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 10):
but it all seems to still be around on SQ!

Good to hear. I've a had a few flights on CX back in 2007, going to SGN, and have only good memories on those. But still, I would rate SQ higher in Y  

@ widebodyroga:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
Yeah, it was my home airport when I lived in Northern Wales back in the early 2000s. I used to fly in and out of MAN constantly. Spent quite a few nights there too waiting for really early departures... For me, MAN means nostalgia.

Good to know!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
As a "liberator" of many things (Iraq, Afghanistan, the US budget surplus, etc) he is probably expecting others to follow his lead... Lame, I know.

In that aspect, I can only agree. I would rate president Obama a tad better then  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 13):
They are splendid!

I'll remember that for next time although I'm not a fan of that kind of food...

@ conrad:

Quoting conrad (Reply 14):
The BMI may be the Past or the Future as bmi regional thinks to drop the regional as they bought the whole name rights of BMI.
At least news from CH Aviation says this.

  

@ FLIEGER67:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
Hi, N.,

Hello Markus!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
good work here with text and story, well done.

Thank you.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
Sure a nice combination Tripreporter style to go for MAN and beyond.
These BMI regional service is sure an interesting one.

I knew you would approve, but I'm sorry for no 'under the wing' shots  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
Perfectly good to meet you there, nice talking and hope to do this again maybe soon at ZRH?

Likewise and count me in for ZRH, anytime!

Sultanils

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User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1660 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7249 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 15):
I've a had a few flights on CX back in 2007, going to SGN, and have only good memories on those. But still, I would rate SQ higher in Y  

I agree!

But i think J class may have its ups and downs on both airlines, and that is debatable and dependent on who prefers what  

Cheers,
Roni



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7214 times:

Hi Nils

Great to read about your flights to MAN. Nice to see the EM135 feature as well. I really like the BMI colours and although the mainline carrier is gone, I hope the BMI regional colours, as they are, remain for some time.

Nice that you also got to enjoy your first SQ experience - and what better way than on the 773ER! I remember my first SQ experience from Taipei back to Singapore in January 1991 on a Big Top 743, and it was also a very positive first experience. There's such a high standard with SQ that after a while, you almost come to just expect everything to be tip top. I've had a couple of average flights with SQ in Y since 1991, and that just serves to remind me that every airline, even the illustrious SQ, has good and bad days!

Great to catch up with you in MAN - albeit briefly. It was a great weekend overall.

Cheers and thanks again, Palmjet



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User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6952 times:

Hi Nils,

It is a real treat to read about your maiden voyage with Singapore Airlines. As you know, SQ has limited 5th freedom flights (especially shorthaul ones!) and it's very nice to experience SQ from your detailed perspective, especially as a first-time flyer with them!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
a proposal was made by fellow a.net member MSS68 to hold a meeting at MAN airport.

I think MAN has to be one of the best airports in Europe for spotting!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Many of you probably know that Singapore Airlines has a SIN-MUC-MAN flight for sale, with full traffic rights for the MUC-MAN or vice versa sector. This 5th freedom flight is quite popular with us a.netters and is a good way of sampling Singapore Airlines’ very fine onboard service.
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A no brainer really

Ditto!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
So 8A it is. I do like exit rows but I also like an obstructed view down so I’m in dubio here

haha, I know that feeling! I have the same problem with a comfortable seat in the middle aisle or trapped by the window to enjoy the views outside.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The overhead bins are not able to accomodate large trolleys and apparently they’re not put in the hold either?

Not something you see everyday.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Service is next: a free cheese of bacon sandwich, hot and cold drinks, spirits, sweet or salty snacks,... it’s all there. I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich.

All for free?! I can't believe this happened on an European flight! Very excellent of BMI!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
During the turns the sun plays some games and this gives some nice effects:

Truely gorgeous.

Now about your Singapore Airlines experience,

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are 3 buttons just below the screen, the left one activates a led light that illuminates the tray table, how clever is that!

I've not seen that before on any other airline.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And a mirror on the back side of the foldable tray table:

Can be pretty useful!  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’ve never seen a cabin and seat with so many useful and clever features.

Neither have I actually. I've never been on the SQ 77W myself before!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The usual welcome and other annoucements are made and let’s not forget the (very) hot towel service which is greatly appreciated:

For such a short flight? I'm impressed.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Headphones and menus are handed out as well:

I'm impressed again.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
First impressions of the crew are very good as well, they are friendly and courteous. I also notice throughout the flight that all onboard procedures, going from the boarding and safety demo to the meal service and disembarkation, are carefully minutiously executed.

Glad you had a first-hand experience of the perfectionist service of Singapore Airlines.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):

It is difficuly to take a decent pic without a mirror effect. I didn’t succeed, so that’s yours truly behind the Lumix:

Hi Nils!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Breakfast is a choice between a chicken sandwich and something else - can’t quite remember. My question for a morning ‘Singapore Sling’ is met with a friendly “Certainly sir, I will get that for you”.

I'm most happy you had a taste of the Singapore Sling! Hope you enjoyed this morning cocktail!  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I disembark and thank the crew for the most excellent flight. And with that, my maiden voyage on Singapore Airlines has come to an end

Very glad that you had a good first impression of Singapore Airlines.

Well, Nils, again, it was very nice to read about your SQ B77W 5th freedom experience! I've not been on the SQ B77W before so I enjoyed your detailed review thoroughly. Frankly, I'm surprised that hot towels, headsets, menus and two choices of hot snack were offered on this very short sector (even though it's Singapore Airlines!). On a 2h20min flight from SIN-BKK, no menus are distributed. Also, I was happy that the crew made the Singapore Sling for you, they could very well said that they don't serve cocktails/alcohol on this morning flight/short sector.

BMI's intra-Europe service looks most excellent as well. I think it has to be one of the better intra-European catering I've seen in recent years. lol...  

Anyway, thanks for the enjoyable read. Take care Nils!

Gavin



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6895 times:

Hi Nils, great report! Looks like BMI Regional has a great product, I hope they will be able to stick around. The SQ flights looks great too, a very nice way to sample the SQ product indeed.

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6760 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6800 times:

Hi Nils,

great report about the MAN trip and our SQ flight. I really enjoyed it, well done! And you posted this one very quickly...mine won't be online before 2015 I guess.  

Congratulations on logging the ERJ-135 - I hadn't realized that during our meeting. I still need to get on that type.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A no brainer really and MAN-MUC was booked for € 122 one way. Not cheap, I know, but totally worth it imho!

The price is not bad considering that you often find similar fares on LH or others.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The Radisson is in fact situated in the airport itself, making it an ideal place to stay for the early departure on Sunday morning with Singapore Airlines.

Perfect hotel, I'm glad I chose it.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
ANR-MAN on BMI regional Embraer 135

Was it an ERJ-135 from the very beginning? I'm wondering if they have routes where you always get them.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All of a sudden, my plane taxies in and I didn’t even hear or see it land Wow! It’s just what I was after: an Embraer 135

I'm glad that bmi's colors continue to exist.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
She’a a beauty and one of the not so many ERJ-135’ers flying around in Europe.

They're quite rare everywhere.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Service is next: a free cheese of bacon sandwich, hot and cold drinks, spirits, sweet or salty snacks,... it’s all there. I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich. The tray table is too small to accomodate it all

That's truly impressive!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Here are a few shots taken with my pocket camera:

Great shots!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):

A warm welcome at the door and I turn right at the second aisle, through the business class cabin - where PlaneHunter shall reside for the coming 1h30m. Such luxurious seats and the IFE screens are just huge:

The seats were excellent, but the flight was so short...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):

I would rate the takeoff as ‘moderate’ for a T7, but afterwards the PlaneHunter assured me that ‘it wasn’t that bad!’. As he’s a lot more experienced than I am in that matter, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

When I flew MUC-MAN on SQ some years ago, I couldn't believe how lame the takeoff was. The same can be said for the takeoff on my recent ANZ LAX-LHR flight. But that plane carried lots of weight.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Eventually we touchdown on 26R (I believe, PlaneHunter, correct me if I’m wrong

Correct!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I have 3h in MUC and as a bonus, PlaneHunter proposes to take makeree and me for an airport tour in his own ‘777’. That’s an offer too good to refuse so we gladly say yes!

I'm glad you enjoyed the tour! I hope to see you at MUC again.


PH



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6730 times:

Hola Nils!

Great report about your flights to / from the MAN meet.

I certainly love the ERJ-135, it looks super in those colors. I have only seen it once on BCN, it is a NI aircraft that flies BCN-OPO regularly... so it is in my to fly list for the coming times. As my other wish, SQ acquiring 5th freedom rights to sell BCN-MXP seems not to become a reality in the near future.

Love the breakfast you were offered on Y class, it looks something amazing these days.

It was great to meet you at MAN and I really enjoyed having a chat with you.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And the last but not least, here’s the KLM, loaded with another bunch of a.netters who’ll be joining the meet:

That is the one, the third window, from the back must have my face on it.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6558 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6535 times:

Hi Nils !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

Very nice to see you get on a EMB-135 which is a very rare type! Service seem to be nice too. I just hope bmi regional can survive on their own.

Great to meet up with the other a.netters at MAN ! It looks like you had a great time. I hope to join you the next time.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
As he’s a lot more experienced than I am in that matter, I give him the benefit of the doubt. The opinion of The777Man would’ve come in very handy now  

Thanks for the word of confidence! It's usually a nice experience but to get the real kick-in-the-butt experience you should try DOH-DXB or vv on QR  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’ve never seen a cabin and seat with so many useful and clever features.

You need to fly more long-haul; what SQ has is standard on many carriers nowadays.

That said, the flight on SQ looks nice but I think I had more legroom on EgyptAir, Thai and Korean Air recently. Perhaps your legroom was less since you were so far back.

Looking forward to your next report !

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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6326 times:
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@ ronerone:

Quoting ronerone (Reply 16):
and that is debatable and dependent on who prefers what

Very true!

@ palmjet:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Hi Nils

Hello mr palmjet!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Great to read about your flights to MAN.

Thanks, I’m glad you liked it!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
I hope the BMI regional colours, as they are, remain for some time.

I really hope so to, I do however have my doubts if they can keep this level of service.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
and what better way than on the 773ER!

By far my most favourite 777: long and powerful 

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
There's such a high standard with SQ that after a while, you almost come to just expect everything to be tip top.

That is a true observation. I can’t relate however to many longhaul experiences on other carriers. But I do feel the overall level of hard- and software is very high.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 17):
Great to catch up with you in MAN - albeit briefly. It was a great weekend overall.

Too many people to have a decent chat with   Next time!

@ RvXKaz:

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
Hi Nils

Hello Gavin, how good to hear from you!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
It is a real treat to read about your maiden voyage with Singapore Airlines.

Thank you for your nice words.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
nd it's very nice to experience SQ from your detailed perspective, especially as a first-time flyer with them!

Perhaps in that aspect my view may not be balanced I realise now.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
I think MAN has to be one of the best airports in Europe for spotting!

It certainly is much better than BRU with that nicely laid out viewing facility. Also AMS is really excellent and some other Euro airports as well.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
haha, I know that feeling! I have the same problem with a comfortable seat in the middle aisle or trapped by the window to enjoy the views outside.

Yeah, I always see you sitting in middle seats on your travel vid’s. But then again, you usually do redeyes and need some shuteye  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
Not something you see everyday.

  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
All for free?!

All for free and unlimited. Really good service here!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
I've not seen that before on any other airline.

No, me neither. At least not on my AZ longhaul in Jan to NRT.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
I've never been on the SQ 77W myself before!

 Wow! I can’t believe that! As a Singapore resident I would believe that you have logged every single reg in the SQ fleet now  Now that would be a hard task!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
For such a short flight? I'm impressed.

Even your home carrier is able to surprise you still  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
Hi Nils!

Hi!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
I'm most happy you had a taste of the Singapore Sling! Hope you enjoyed this morning cocktail!

I was a bit apprehensive about asking for it in the early morning but I’m glad I did. You just have to have one on SQ!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
Frankly, I'm surprised that hot towels, headsets, menus and two choices of hot snack were offered on this very short sector (even though it's Singapore Airlines!). On a 2h20min flight from SIN-BKK, no menus are distributed. Also, I was happy that the crew made the Singapore Sling for you, they could very well said that they don't serve cocktails/alcohol on this morning flight/short sector.

In fact, the menu was more for the next stretch MUC-SIN but featured 1 page for the MAN-MUC sector. And indeed, still impressive to provide a good level of catering on that relatively short flight.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
I think it has to be one of the better intra-European catering I've seen in recent years. lol...

I can only agree.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 18):
Take care Nils!

You too and thank you for your reply!

@ roberts87:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):
Hi Nils, great report!

Hello Robert, thank you for reading!

@ PlaneHunter:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Hi Nils,

Hello PlaneHunter!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
great report about the MAN trip and our SQ flight. I really enjoyed it, well done!

Thank you for your kind words!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
And you posted this one very quickly...mine won't be online before 2015 I guess.

I used to post even quicker but those days are over    And take your time with your writings, it’s quality that counts here  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Congratulations on logging the ERJ-135

Thanks, a very exotic one indeed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
The price is not bad considering that you often find similar fares on LH or others.

True, although I’ve seen it for less than € 100 in the past.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Perfect hotel, I'm glad I chose it.

I’m with you, and the non-refundable early booking rates are rather good as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Was it an ERJ-135 from the very beginning? I'm wondering if they have routes where you always get them.

It was! Not many larger planes are able to land at ANR    It’s a good route to try to catch the type.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
I'm glad that bmi's colors continue to exist.

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
That's truly impressive!

I was very surprised as well!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
The seats were excellent, but the flight was so short...

And you even had an extended photo session lol!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Correct!

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
I'm glad you enjoyed the tour! I hope to see you at MUC again.

It was a nice tour in a nice plane...err car! If the opportunity rises, I’ll gladly come back to MUC.

@ Rogerbcn:

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
Hola Nils!

Hola Roger, good to hear from you!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
Great report about your flights to / from the MAN meet.

Thank you very much!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
I certainly love the ERJ-135, it looks super in those colors.

I agree, a nice small airplane and surprisingly comfy on the inside.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
I have only seen it once on BCN, it is a NI aircraft that flies BCN-OPO regularly... so it is in my to fly list for the coming times.

Indeed, Portugalia does still have some of those in use. Those would be nice to log as wel.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
As my other wish, SQ acquiring 5th freedom rights to sell BCN-MXP seems not to become a reality in the near future.

I wasn’t aware that SQ flies BCN-MXP-SIN and back  Wow! And no 5th freedom rights. I guess the Spanish government doesn’t allow those?

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
Love the breakfast you were offered on Y class, it looks something amazing these days.

It was good and plentiful for sure.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
It was great to meet you at MAN and I really enjoyed having a chat with you.

Likewise and I hope to see you again the near future.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 21):
That is the one, the third window, from the back must have my face on it.

Now that I zoomed in on the photo I see!

@ The777Man:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Hi Nils !

Hello Lars!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

No problem, the pleasure is mine.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Very nice to see you get on a EMB-135 which is a very rare type!

Indeed, an exotic and very welcome addition to the log.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Great to meet up with the other a.netters at MAN ! It looks like you had a great time. I hope to join you the next time.

It was a nice meet with nice people and nice weather, nice food and nice... everything! Do try to join next time but living so far away does make it a bit complicated of course...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Thanks for the word of confidence! It's usually a nice experience but to get the real kick-in-the-butt experience you should try DOH-DXB or vv on QR

No problem, concerning T7’s, your the guiding light lol!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
You need to fly more long-haul; what SQ has is standard on many carriers nowadays.

Hmm, I do think they offer those extra bits and pieces. It’s all in the details.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
I think I had more legroom on EgyptAir, Thai and Korean Air recently. Perhaps your legroom was less since you were so far back.

That could very well be the case. Last rows are quite notorious for that.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2461 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

Haai Nils,

What a great way to fly along with you (virtually) to our MAN meet! I was curious to hear about your side of the story, especially when it involved a rare intra-European fifth freedom flight!  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Not in the least supported by the fact that I would be able to see some (many) friends again after the meeting in TXL in June 2012.

The pleasure was mine as well!   


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A rebooking it was, for Fri evening, of course at no extra cost.

So nice to know that the rebooking turned out well!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I think this is also the 1st report on the ANR-MAN flight operated by BMI regional.

True! Congratulation!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
These are all of todays flights. On a normal weekday - it is Easter holiday week now - there’s one more Cityjet flight to LCY at 7:50am.

Amazing! It is like your own private airport!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Luckily I have ample time for a beer so I had to the adjacent café annex restaurant called Belair to start the weekend off on the right foot.

Very nice establishment! Definitely the way to start the weekend in style!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
First impressions are really good,

Also the male steward?  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Yes, I do!

Now I pronounce you emergency exit row passenger!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Lot’s of discussions going on over that topic   

What’s wrong with the project? Why are some people against the development which they may benefit in the future?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Service is next: a free cheese of bacon sandwich, hot and cold drinks, spirits, sweet or salty snacks,... it’s all there. I take 2 cans of soda, a cup of tea and lemon, salty bites and a bacon sandwich.

You’re kidding! All of them for free? BMI Regional really knows how to do business!  Wow!


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And the last but not least, here’s the KLM, loaded with another bunch of a.netters who’ll be joining the meet:

Yay! I was the one sitting next to the last window.   


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
go the city of Manchester for a nice meal at the Zinc restaurant.

What a great evening it was!   


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I like the way how the information is projected onto the screens above the desks:

So clearly signed! Did you notice anyone go the wrong way yet?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
After security we head for the lounge, where makeree kindly guests me in (thanks again!).

How nice of makeree!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Isn’t this a bit weird:

What would tier status mean anyway?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
but my seat is a mix of all colours used  

Tailor-made for you! 


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
et’s not forget the (very) hot towel service which is greatly appreciated:
SQ still provides hot towel service! How lovely!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Here’s the PTV up close and personal; it can be tilted horizontally to a large extent. There are 3 buttons just below the screen, the left one activates a led light that illuminates the tray table, how clever is that!

  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
It gives a bit of an ‘automated process’ feeling. Luckily the crew also takes the time to interact with the passengers and make them feel at home.

5 star service may be great, but human touch is also well appreciated!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I didn’t fancy looking at all the other items.

Well, music would have been an option of mine.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
My question for a morning ‘Singapore Sling’ is met with a friendly “Certainly sir, I will get that for you”.

  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
my maiden voyage on Singapore Airlines has come to an end  

I can imagine your feeling! Hot towel, menu distribution, two meal choices, full bar service, extensive IFE, where else could we have such experience while flying intra-European?


Thank you so much for sharing. Have a nice week ahead!  


Best wishes,
Suryo  

[Edited 2013-04-30 08:42:40]


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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6051 times:
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@ akhmad:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
Haai Nils

Haai Suryo!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
What a great way to fly along with you (virtually) to our MAN meet! I was curious to hear about your side of the story, especially when it involved a rare intra-European fifth freedom flight!

Thanks, I’m glad you liked it  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
So nice to know that the rebooking turned out well!

Well, it’s the least one can expect when the flight you’re booked on is cancelled just like that beforehand, no? I’m glad that it turned out well.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
True! Congratulation!

My 1st premiere   

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
Amazing! It is like your own private airport!

Nearly so. I definitely have a soft spot for ANR, especially now with the BMI service up and running (quite well).

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
Also the male steward?

As far as I can judge that: not really 

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
What’s wrong with the project? Why are some people against the development which they may benefit in the future?

Like many airports, ANR is situated in a densely populated zone. People don’t want the extra noise associated with more and lower altitude aircraft movements  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
You’re kidding! All of them for free? BMI Regional really knows how to do business!

And I really hope they will maintain this ‘kind of business’!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
Did you notice anyone go the wrong way yet?

No I didn’t, but there weren’t many people there and I didn’t really pay attention either.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
What would tier status mean anyway?

According to SQ: not much   But there probably would’ve been a reason for the sign?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
SQ still provides hot towel service! How lovely!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
5 star service may be great, but human touch is also well appreciated!

That is true, we don’t want robots serving us  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
where else could we have such experience while flying intra-European?

Intra-European? I guess this one will be very hard to match!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 24):
Have a nice week ahead!

Have a nice weekend to you too!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Hi Nils,

good report, BMI is doing fine there on the E135, a tiny jet I flew on AF Régional on CFE-AMS. Good fun. Service on level with Cityjet it seems. Do they offer full bar service in Y?

SQ is fine also, just what you can expect from them, nothing more, nothing less. It's a good airline, fullfilling the expectations. I liked them on longhaul, for sure. But they're not good with mileage, and also not always nice to the staff (strict regulations), so one can have doubts if they're really 'nice' as a company. I have some doubts, sometimes.

Good to meet you again. You're logging 777's quickly in 2013  

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5705 times:
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@ airbuseric:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
Hi Nils

Hello Eric, thank you for replying.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
good report

Thanks!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
a tiny jet I flew on AF Régional on CFE-AMS. Good fun.

Have you? That's cool! It's such a sweet jet   

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
Service on level with Cityjet it seems. Do they offer full bar service in Y?

Yes, more or less on level with WX. And yes as well on the full bar service, at least: I saw some bottles of spirits on the cart.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
But they're not good with mileage

I did get a good amount of mileage though, better than the standard SN 125 miles I get in the lowest booking class.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
I have some doubts, sometimes.

I see, same as with QR, EK, ...


Quoting airbuseric (Reply 26):
You're logging 777's quickly in 2013

I might reach the impressive amount of 3 by the end of this year lol!

Sultanils



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User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 778 posts, RR: 12
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

Another great report from Nils, extremely interesting. I really like the quality of the pictures

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Further on I connected the dots with a MUC-STR flight on Augsburg Airways or Lufthansa Regional if you will for € 59. I might as well try that airline before it gets dumped by Lufthansa in Oct 2013, sadly enough. Finally, a seat on STR-BRU was secured by another member of the Lufthansa group, namely Germanwings. Price: € 49.

Amazing deals!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Well, since some 8 months now, BMI regional has filled the gap that Cityjet left when ending its ANR-MAN flights about 1,5 years ago.

Do you think the service will last long then?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I do like exit rows but I also like an obstructed view down so I’m in dubio here   

same for me, i'd rather choose a window than a seat with extra legroom!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
we even fly over my house but I’m at the wring side for that to see.

you must have some fantastic opportunities of spotting!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Judging by the amount of people at the gate, the load will be rather light this morning

for a 777?
looks like half of the pax were a.netters  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
but my seat is a mix of all colours used  

beautiful

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
My question for a morning ‘Singapore Sling’ is met with a friendly “Certainly sir, I will get that for you”.

Very nice, i always (wrongly) thought this cocktail was reserved for business class passengers.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
PlaneHunter proposes to take makeree and me for an airport tour in his own ‘777’

What is it exactly? Is it similar to the Fokker on the terrace in AMS?

Thanks for sharing
Looking forward to the next report

Léonard



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1702 posts, RR: 30
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5113 times:
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@ eastafspot:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
Another great report from Nils, extremely interesting. I really like the quality of the pictures

Hi Léonard, thank you for your kind words...!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
Do you think the service will last long then?

I really hope so. It’s a convenient service from a convenient airport and I gladly choose this one over the SN service ex-BRU.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
same for me, i'd rather choose a window than a seat with extra legroom!

That makes 2 of us  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
you must have some fantastic opportunities of spotting!

Not exactly   Traffic is limited to about 5 F50’s a day. Not very exciting do you think?

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
for a 777?

looks like half of the pax were a.netters

Yes for a 777. But probably the plane would fill up in MUC afterwards? I’ve no idea. And yes, there were quite some a.netters on board!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
Very nice, i always (wrongly) thought this cocktail was reserved for business class passengers.

I had no idea what to expect. I had a ‘non’ so I could always get a ‘oui’  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 28):
What is it exactly? Is it similar to the Fokker on the terrace in AMS?

No, it’s PH’s car featuring ‘777’ somewhere on it lol!

Sultanils



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