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Rushing Thru Romania: Carpatair S20 & Tarom A318  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 13839 times:




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Intro
Back in May 2012, I missed a Wizz Air flight from London/Luton to Gdansk because I had been stranded in Singapore (more details can be found here). After explaining the situation and sending some documents, the low-cost carrier transferred the amount paid for that flight as a credit for future travels to my Wizz Air account. However, the credit was only valid until yearend, so I decided to use it on a trip to Romania in September.

The main targets were Carpatair and its Saab 2000 on the Munich-Timisoara route, though. And I tried to include a flight on Tarom as well so that I would get three new airlines. The Romanian national carrier offers late evening flights from Bucharest to numerous domestic destinations, mostly operated by ATRs, but also 737s and A318s, so there were many options to choose from. Finally, I decided to fly Munich-Timisoara-Bucharest on Carpatair and Bucharest-Cluj/Napoca on Tarom. I had picked CLJ for the night stop because I could book a well-timed onward flight to Dortmund on Wizz Air on the next day, plus a Dortmund-Munich flight on Germanwings. Surprisingly, the equipment on the short Tarom flight turned out to be an A318 - not a new type for me, but definitely more interesting than an ATR.

I booked all flights on the carriers' websites which was easy and convenient in any case. After the itinerary had been completed, I was looking forward to three new airlines and four new airports.  thumbsup 



Saturday, September 2012
Munich (MUC) - Timisoara (TSR)
Carpatair V3 322
Scheduled times: 11:50-14:40
Actual times: 11:56-14:37
Flight duration: 01:21 (hrs)
Distance: 483 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 16A

Saab 2000
YR-SBE (MSN 041)
First delivered to Crossair in 11/1996 as HB-IZX


1st flight on YR-SBE
1st Saab 2000 flight
141st airline



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Checking in online wasn't possible for flights from Munich, but I had been able to select my seats during the booking process (free of charge, btw). When I arrived at the check-in area, there was no need to queue up and I quickly got my boarding passes.

My plane arrived on time - it turned out to be YR-SBE, built in 1996:



Boarding commenced as planned and a bus brought us to the long desired Saab 2000 which is a nice looking aircraft in my opinion. Powered by Rolls Royce:



YR-SBE has recently been retired (fleet down to four frames) and is intended for Darwin Airlines:



Interesting perspective:





The cabin was equipped with dark blue leather seats and seemed to be in good shape:





I found the seat rather comfortable...



...and legroom was absolutely sufficient, too:





Just behind the wing, perfect location:



I found the noise level on the Saab 2000 more pleasant than on modern ATRs or Dashs - both on the ground and in the air. That's what I had already noticed on the Saab 340.

5B-DCG is the newest A320 in the Cyprus Airways fleet:



British Airways A319 in "Dove" colors plus a regular frame:



Rossiya A319 and Etihad A330:


Unfortunately, the flight attendant noticed that I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.  Wink

Airborne:



Thick clouds ahead...





That looked much better:



A Romanian English-language newspaper was offered shortly after takeoff:



Safety card:



Inflight magazine and shopping guide:



The former's most interesting page - no complaints this time:


Since September 2012, two Saabs have been retired, all Fokker 70s have left the fleet and two ATR 72-500s have joined the fleet. One of the latter made a crash landing at Rome in February, unfortunately, while operating for Alitalia.

Cool stuff on offer in the shopping magazine:



Carpatair serves drinks and snacks free of charge, except for alcoholic beverages:



The friendly flight attendant soon distributed tasty sandwiches (ham, cheese & lettuce on tomato bread) and offered various drinks:


After I had ordered a (tasty) black tea, she asked whether I'd also like a cold drink. So I ordered an orange juice and then she asked: "Do you need anything else? One more meal?" Very attentive!  thumbsup 

Very nice scenery:





Quite healthy load:



You don't need to fly First Class on certain carriers to get a loo with a view:



Only a few more minutes to go:



It soon started raining, so it was impossible to take decent pictures during landing. Welcome to Timisoara Airport:



Can you imagine that these airlines are partners?





Saturday, September 2012
Timisoara (TSR) - Bucharest (OTP)
Carpatair V3 204
Scheduled times: 16:30-17:30
Actual times: 16:16-17:17
Flight duration: 00:54 (hrs)
Distance: 248 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 16A

Saab 2000
YR-SBJ (MSN 018)
First delivered to Crossair in 06/1995 as HB-IZK


1st flight on YR-SBJ
2nd Saab 2000 flight



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After arriving in the small terminal building, I quickly realized that there wasn't much to do in the crowded central airside area. So I went straight to the domestic departure gate area - where you can only find a limited number of seats and only one bathroom (one cabin!) for each gender:



At least I could follow the aircraft movements:



Carpatair's one and only 737-300:



Boarding commenced rather early, but I certainly didn't mind. YR-SBE had left a while ago, so I was looking forward to a new registration. It turned out to be YR-SBJ:



Once again, I received a friendly welcome at the door. The interior of the plane was identical, but there were less passengers on board this time. Interestingly, I was surrounded by a few Carpatair pilots and cabin crew members.

The apron was rather deserted now:



Climbout over large fields:



Carpatair also serves free drinks and snacks on domestic hops:



Nice scenery:



Large industrial park:



Outskirts of Bucharest:



And here's the airport:



We made a wide left turn and approached the airport from the East - but now I was facing the sun and couldn't take decent pictures. On the way to the parking position:



One of Tarom's A310s which is leased out to the government:



Nice line-up of Tarom 737s:



We came to a stop next to Air Bucharest's one and only aircraft:



Goodbye, YR-SBJ:



After arriving in the terminal, I quickly found out that it wasn't possible to stay in transit. I had already checked in online and printed the boarding pass for my Tarom flight, but the domestic departure area was in a separate section and I had to leave the airside zone.

When I tried to pass security at the domestic concourse, an unfriendly female officer refused entry after checking my boarding pass. I insisted that I was having a valid boarding pass, but it was pointless. Her English was very limited and I started assuming that it simply wasn't possible yet to go to the domestic gates. A police officer finally confirmed exactly that and explained that access would be possible two hours or so before departure. Since the few domestic evening departures leave within a period of about an hour, this policy makes sense, I guess.

The main terminal building:


Spotting wasn't possible in the public area and there wasn't much else to do either. I was glad when I could finally pass security and head to my gate.

[Edited 2013-04-30 11:22:27]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 13949 times:

Saturday, September 2012
Bucharest (OTP) - Cluj/Napoca (CLJ)
Tarom RO649
Scheduled times: 21:30-22:25
Actual times: 21:29-22:15
Flight duration: 00:33 (hrs)
Distance: 192 miles
Economy Class, seat 20F

Airbus A318-111
YR-ASC (MSN 3220), named "Henri Coandă"
Delivered in 11/2007


1st flight on YR-ASC
3rd A318 flight
142nd airline



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The dated domestic concourse with its basic interior wasn't a great place to be either. The area with four gates was getting crowded and I couldn't believe that - once again - there was only one run-down and unkempt bathroom (one cabin!) for each gender.  thumbsdown 

Fortunately, boarding commenced early. I was glad that the bus stopped next to an A318 - no last minute aircraft change. YR-ASC is one of four frames in the fleet:



All the flight attendants I had to pass appeared unfriendly, no smiles anywhere. My seat was rock hard...





...but legroom was acceptable for this short hop:


The cabin remained half empty and I had the whole row to myself. Announcements were hard to understand due to the cabin crew member's voice speed and strong accent. At least I could understand that the flying time would be 35 minutes. Oh, and one flight attendant told me to stop taking pictures. Of course I stopped doing so...for a while.  Wink

We left the parking position early and turned onto the runway a few minutes later. However, the safety video (black and white only on the nearest screen) was still running and some flight attendants were still moving around in the cabin. That was rather interesting, hadn't seen that before. Finally, the A318 powerfully accelerated and climbed out into the night sky.

Safety card:



Inflight magazine:



Unbelievable, but true - I couldn't find any mistakes here either:



Another magazine:



Shortly after takeoff, I was surprised to get peanuts and a refreshing towel:



Drinks followed shortly afterwards - I ordered orange juice:



Of course I was glad that Tarom even provided a moving map:



The flight was even shorter than estimated and we touched down hard after a flying time of 33 minutes. Cabin shot during disembarking:



Not even five minutes after leaving the plane, I stepped outside and was met by an older man with a "Hotel Verona Airport" sign. It is the closest hotel to the airport - rated well and rather cheap, just 35 Euro per night. For an additional 5 Euro per sector, I had ordered a shuttle transfer.

The man didn't speak English (but French and Italian), so it was rather difficult to communicate. During check-in, he didn't accept my credit card for whatever reason, but asked me to pay cash. After a few moments, he called someone and handed the phone to me. The nice lady on the phone turned out to be the owner of the small hotel and she explained in English that the man was her father. She even apologized for his lack of English skills. Of course I would be able to pay with credit card on the next morning, she promised and asked me when I would like to have breakfast.

Then her father showed me the room which was big and really nice, just like the lobby. I was impressed by the choice of colors and design elements:





Views from the room on the next morning:





Lobby and breakfast room:



The owner welcomed me, turned on an English news channel and freshly made a big breakfast - what else can you ask for?


In the late morning, she drove me to the airport and I expressed my satisfaction with the hotel and the service.

[Edited 2013-04-30 11:24:52]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14014 times:

Sunday, September 2012
Cluj/Napoca (CLJ) - Dortmund (DTM)
Wizz Air W6 3361
Scheduled times: 13:20-14:35
Actual times: 15:14-16:12
Flight duration: 01:49 (hrs)
Distance: 796 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 1F

Airbus A320-232
HA-LWQ (MSN 5196)
Delivered in 06/2012


1st flight on HA-LWQ
46th A320-200 flight
47th A320 flight
143rd airline



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I had already checked in online at home, so I could have gone airside immediately, but I decided to explore the modern terminal building for a while. Main entrance:



Check-in hall:



To my surprise, I discovered numerous spotter pictures taken at the airport...





...as well as creative plane models, obviously made by children:



About one hour before departure, I passed security and went to the small airside section of the terminal building. My plane arrived almost on time from London/Luton - it turned out to be HA-LWQ which used to be the newest plane in the Wizz Air fleet until recently. It wasn't even three months old back then:



Lufthansa CityLine Embraer 195 D-AEBI was being prepared for its return flight to Munich:



Boarding commenced early and - since I had paid extra for priority boarding - I was among the first passengers to step onto the bus. Interestingly, a ground agent even set up a cordon with a "priority boarding" sign in the bus to make sure that normal passengers and "priority boarding" passengers would remain segregated. While there was plenty of space in my section, the normal passengers must have felt really crowded.

After 15 minutes or so, the bus doors were opened again and a ground agent told us to return to the gate. Not good at all, I thought.  alert  Of course I immediately tried to find out what was going on and I was told by a ground agent that the flight would be delayed by half an hour or so due to a technical problem.  thumbsdown 

After 30 minutes had passed, I went to the group of ground agents again and asked for an update. But they said there weren't any news and that I should just wait. I wasn't concerned about a delay of one hour, two hours or even more because my DTM-MUC flight wouldn't leave before 19:05 in the evening. However, I was starting to think about options in case of a cancelation - and it was obvious that those would be rather limited.

About an hour after the scheduled departure time, I asked for an update again and even asked for the "worst case procedure". Rebooking to a flight on another day? Flight on a replacement aircraft due to the high load? The agents looked rather clueless and told me again that I should just wait.

Of course I kept watching the happenings on the tarmac with my binoculars, but I couldn't see much. At one point, almost 1.5 hours after the scheduled departure time, the captain showed up on the stairs and the expression on his face didn't look good in my opinion, so my concerns were growing.  irked 

Only five minutes later, an announcement was made and I was prepared for the worst - but, fortunately, the agent said that boarding would commence shortly.  thumbsup 

This time, we really made it to the aircraft. Priority passengers could leave the bus first, so I was able to take some pictures in an undisturbed manner:



I really like Wizz Air's colors:



The two female brunette flight attendants in the front section could have qualified for a model contest, but they weren't overly friendly. Since I had also paid extra for a "preferred seat", I could choose between rows 1 and 2 which are blocked for all other passengers. Unfortunately, the window seats in row 2 were already occupied, so I chose 1F. Seat comfort was okay...



...and there was a reasonable amount of legroom:

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Deserted apron:





The plane was packed, but the middle seat in my row remained empty, fortunately. After boarding had been completed, the English captain made a welcome announcement and apologized for the delay. He referred to a "small technical issue" which had to be fixed.

Exactly 1 hour and 54 minutes behind the scheduled departure time, we left the parking position and taxied to the runway which wasn't in good condition:



Goodbye, CLJ!



Liftoff after a powerful and rattling takeoff roll:







Seat pocket exploration:



Inflight magazine:





Network:


There wasn't a dedicated fleet information section - so just in case you are interested, Wizz Air currently operates 39 A320s, Wizz Air Ukraine has another three frames in service. The carrier used to have a small Bulgarian subsidiary as well and was also planning to start a Romanian subsidiary, but those projects were axed.

Buy-on-board options:



I decided to order a beer for 3 Euro and an average sandwich (chicken breast, cheese, taco sauce) for 4 Euro:



The clouds were soon gone and I could enjoy great views on this late summer day:



No doubts, this flight was packed:



Approach over a nice rural landscape:



I'd prefer to see them in the sea, far away from homes...



Large industrial facilities like those need a reliable and affordable power supply at any time...


...but that's it, I won't continue to talk about German energy issues.  ill 

Unfortunately, I was soon facing the sun and couldn't take any more decent pictures. We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 49 minutes and taxied to the deserted terminal...



Spotless HA-LWQ shining in the September sun:



I wasn't surprised to see that only one passport control counter was staffed...a shortage of officers is not just a problem at MUC. After the officer had checked some people, a young guy at the front suddenly started running and passed the counter. "Halt!", the officer shouted, quickly jumped up and started chasing the young man, followed by a colleague. Well, I don't know whether they were able to catch him, but the counter remained deserted for 5 minutes...10 minutes...15 minutes...and I was wondering how long I and some 150 other passengers would have to wait in queue. After 20 minutes, I was considering to call the airport and express a complaint, but then an older officer showed up and...now guess what: He told us that everybody could pass! No more controls, nothing. Sure, why not expand the Schengen zone for a minute?  Yeah sure That's definitely not the right approach!  redflag 

DTM's modern terminal was quite deserted on this Sunday afternoon:





Of course I made a visit to the nice observation deck...



...just in time to watch my plane leaving again:


Some hours later, Germanwings A319-112 D-AKNU (new registration) smoothly flew me back to Munich.



Conclusion
Both flights on Carpatair were enjoyable due to comfortable seating, friendly crews and good service. The Saab 2000 is a great aircraft, I can only recommend to try it. Transferring at Timisoara is easy, but the airport is not overly attractive and I wouldn't want to stay there for several hours. Despite the disappointing crew, I was positively surprised by Tarom. Moving map, snack and drink on a 33 minute flight - that's more than I had expected. Wizz Air offers a classic LCC product which is nothing to write home about, but I'm still impressed by the carrier's customer service (credit for missed flight). No doubts, I would fly on all these carriers again - but most preferably on Carpatair.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



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2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ) +Pics (by PlaneHunter Oct 18 2006 in Trip Reports)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400 (by PlaneHunter Oct 5 2006 in Trip Reports)
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332) (by PlaneHunter Oct 4 2006 in Trip Reports)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345 (by PlaneHunter Sep 29 2006 in Trip Reports)
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB (by PlaneHunter Jul 15 2006 in Trip Reports)
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels (by PlaneHunter Jun 4 2006 in Trip Reports)
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro +pix (by PlaneHunter May 6 2006 in Trip Reports)
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762 +Pix (by PlaneHunter Mar 26 2006 in Trip Reports)
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US +Pix (by PlaneHunter Mar 13 2006 in Trip Reports)

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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 13643 times:

Hi PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I wasn't surprised to see that only one passport control counter was staffed...a shortage of officers is not just a problem at MUC. After the officer had checked some people, a young guy at the front suddenly started running and passed the counter. "Halt!", the officer shouted, quickly jumped up and started chasing the young man, followed by a colleague. Well, I don't know whether they were able to catch him, but the counter remained deserted for 5 minutes...10 minutes...15 minutes...and I was wondering how long I and some 150 other passengers would have to wait in queue. After 20 minutes, I was considering to call the airport and express a complaint, but then an older officer showed up and...now guess what: He told us that everybody could pass! No more controls, nothing. Sure, why not expand the Schengen zone for a minute?   That's definitely not the right approach!   

What the hell! I wouldn't imagine German border guards doing this! Guess they arrested the runner?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the flight attendant noticed that I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.  

Yes, you need to learn to be stealthy with these sorts of things. Just like in the States.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had ordered a (tasty) black tea, she asked whether I'd also like a cold drink. So I ordered an orange juice and then she asked: "Do you need anything else? One more meal?" Very attentive!   

Interesting. That looks exactly like Air Moldova's (not Moldavian's, mind you) meal--right down to the tea brand... Hmmm.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Spotting wasn't possible in the public area and there wasn't much else to do either. I was glad when I could finally pass security and head to my gate.

Well, not in that part of the terminal.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
The dated domestic concourse with its basic interior wasn't a great place to be either. The area with four gates was getting crowded and I couldn't believe that - once again - there was only one run-down and unkempt bathroom (one cabin!) for each gender.   

Well, it was supposed to become "phased out" in 2011. So you better believe no one's taking care of it  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had to pass appeared unfriendly, no smiles anywhere.

Well, they're supposed to be business-professional. No smiles upon embarkation. Weird if you're not used to it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Announcements were hard to understand due to the cabin crew member's voice speed and strong accent.

LOL. Yes, they tend to "eat sounds" when speaking. "The fli(ght) to Cluj toni(ght) will [...]"

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unbelievable, but true - I couldn't find any mistakes here either:

Well, using the old color scheme is a mistake in my view  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
To my surprise, I discovered numerous spotter pictures taken at the airport...

Yes, they're quite active in Cluj with that sort of thing...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Exactly 1 hour and 54 minutes behind the scheduled departure time, we left the parking position and taxied to the runway which wasn't in good condition:

One joke is that every new LH pilot (subsidiaries of LH, I guess) which flies to Cluj for the first time has a freaked-out look on their face after seeing the condition of the runway!

Thanks for your report, PH!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 13536 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

thanks a lot for your feedback! I was curious to hear your opinion.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
What the hell! I wouldn't imagine German border guards doing this! Guess they arrested the runner?

I don't know, but it's very likely. Yeah, I was very surprised by all that.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
Yes, you need to learn to be stealthy with these sorts of things. Just like in the States.

Usually I use the camera discretely.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
Interesting. That looks exactly like Air Moldova's (not Moldavian's, mind you) meal--right down to the tea brand... Hmmm.

Interesting indeed.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
Well, it was supposed to become "phased out" in 2011.

Ah, okay. Well, just recently I was surprised to find a locked toilet at Berlin Tegel in the late evening...which is not better!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
Well, they're supposed to be business-professional. No smiles upon embarkation. Weird if you're not used to it.

They should learn a lesson from Carpatair!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
Well, using the old color scheme is a mistake in my view

Ha, good observation!    I agree.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
One joke is that every new LH pilot (subsidiaries of LH, I guess) which flies to Cluj for the first time has a freaked-out look on their face after seeing the condition of the runway!

That's a good one!


PH



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 13492 times:

Hey PH

Nice report! Was a good read, instead of uni work... Im taking a break from the revision so I can leave a short comment   Thanks for sharing this, looking forward to the next!



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User currently onlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13319 times:

Hey, PH,

sure a great idea to use you´re Wizz voucher this way.
A nice combination of airlines and aircraft and also airports, well done scheduling and also story.
These Carpat Saab 2000 looks like nice.
Something also for me twice next week, at least like on schedule and nothing turns wrong, as usual!

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12960 times:
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PH I will comment on this later. Glad to see you back

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 12820 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 5):
Nice report!

Many thanks, Yvan!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 5):
Was a good read, instead of uni work... Im taking a break from the revision so I can leave a short comment

Good to hear!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 5):
Thanks for sharing this, looking forward to the next!

More widebody action included in the next one...but it will take some time.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
A nice combination of airlines and aircraft and also airports, well done scheduling and also story.

Servus Markus, thanks a lot!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
sure a great idea to use you´re Wizz voucher this way.

Yes, I'm glad I could find a good way to use it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
These Carpat Saab 2000 looks like nice.

Absolutely. But there are only four frames left. I fear they will be replaced by ATRs sooner or later.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
Something also for me twice next week, at least like on schedule and nothing turns wrong, as usual!

That sounds interesting! I'm looking forward to your story.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 7):
PH I will comment on this later. Glad to see you back

Thank you, flightsimboy! I'm looking forward to your comments. Yes, I have been quite busy...but chances are good that I will be able to accelerate my TR output rate soon.


PH



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Hi dc9northwest,

thanks a lot for your feedback! I was curious to hear your opinion.

No worries   I think you were pretty objective in your analysis. Luckily most of TAROM's medium-haul fleet features the moving map... although for the last 3 flights with them I've been stuck on the 2 planes which don't feature it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Usually I use the camera discretely.

Well, in that part of the world--you better.   Although, they've made huge leaps in the past 5 years... OTP, CLJ now permit spotting, no longer do they ban photography in the airport (at least OTP). More civilized than CDG, hehe.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Ah, okay. Well, just recently I was surprised to find a locked toilet at Berlin Tegel in the late evening...which is not better!

Well, the new terminal extension was supposed to be used for all flights... but considering there's no Schengen admission yet, we have to wait.... There should be a new domestic wing opening soon in the new part of the departures terminal which although completed, was empty the last time I was there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
That's a good one!

I read it on the Romanian spotters' forum. I think CLJ has the worst runway in Romania.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 12802 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 9):
I think you were pretty objective in your analysis.

That's what I always try.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 9):
Luckily most of TAROM's medium-haul fleet features the moving map... although for the last 3 flights with them I've been stuck on the 2 planes which don't feature it.

I guess those are 733s?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 9):
Although, they've made huge leaps in the past 5 years... OTP, CLJ now permit spotting, no longer do they ban photography in the airport (at least OTP).

It was officially banned until recently?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 9):
Well, the new terminal extension was supposed to be used for all flights... but considering there's no Schengen admission yet, we have to wait.... There should be a new domestic wing opening soon in the new part of the departures terminal which although completed, was empty the last time I was there.

Interesting.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 9):
I read it on the Romanian spotters' forum. I think CLJ has the worst runway in Romania.

That's odd considering that the terminal building looks quite new.


PH



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6549 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12569 times:

Hi PlaneHunter !

Thanks for yet another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had ordered a (tasty) black tea, she asked whether I'd also like a cold drink. So I ordered an orange juice and then she asked: "Do you need anything else? One more meal?"

It seem like very nice service in Carpatair. Very impressive especially on such a small plane.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Spotting wasn't possible in the public area and there wasn't much else to do either. I was glad when I could finally pass security and head to my gate.

That is always very frustrating when it happens to me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Of course I was glad that Tarom even provided a moving map:

That's a nice feature that more airlines should provide.

Tarom seems to have great service as well particularly for short flight like that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
After 30 minutes had passed, I went to the group of ground agents again and asked for an update. But they said there weren't any news and that I should just wait. I wasn't concerned about a delay of one hour, two hours or even more because my DTM-MUC flight wouldn't leave before 19:05 in the evening. However, I was starting to think about options in case of a cancelation - and it was obvious that those would be rather limited.

About an hour after the scheduled departure time, I asked for an update again and even asked for the "worst case procedure". Rebooking to a flight on another day? Flight on a replacement aircraft due to the high load? The agents looked rather clueless and told me again that I should just wait.

Of course I kept watching the happenings on the tarmac with my binoculars, but I couldn't see much. At one point, almost 1.5 hours after the scheduled departure time, the captain showed up on the stairs and the expression on his face didn't look good in my opinion, so my concerns were growing.   

They should have explained the situation fully rather then say it's just a technical problem. That is very stressful to wait and see what happens and if you will make connections.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I decided to order a beer for 3 Euro and an average sandwich (chicken breast, cheese, taco sauce) for 4 Euro:

Sandwich and beer looks like good value but I would prefer something else than Heineken.....

All in all, a great short trip with three new airlines and some new airports for you.

I'm very much looking forward very much to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12558 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Thanks for yet another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Hi Lars! Many thanks for your nice comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
It seem like very nice service in Carpatair. Very impressive especially on such a small plane.

Yes, I was very impressed.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
That is always very frustrating when it happens to me.

I hate that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
That's a nice feature that more airlines should provide.

  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Tarom seems to have great service as well particularly for short flight like that.

Sure, wouldn't mind to try it on a longer flight. RO has offered low fares to DXB in the last few months, but I don't want to fly down there on a 737.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
They should have explained the situation fully rather then say it's just a technical problem. That is very stressful to wait and see what happens and if you will make connections.

Yes, absolutely. But I guess they didn't know how long it would take to fix it.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Sandwich and beer looks like good value but I would prefer something else than Heineken.....

I agree, but I still enjoyed it after that frustrating delay.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
All in all, a great short trip with three new airlines and some new airports for you.

Perfect weekend trip.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
I'm very much looking forward very much to your next report !

Well, a 777 was supposed to show up in that one, but the airline decided to make a last minute aircraft change...


PH



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12442 times:

Hi there PH - great work as usual. Good that you could use the travel voucher along with some more interesting types and places. Annoying about the last minute delay on the Wizz Air flight - had a similar thing on AA the other week where everything was on time until the very last minute, and nobody could give a firm answer as to what was happening.

And I wonder why the guy just decided to make a run through passport control? Very odd.



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12423 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 13):
Hi there PH - great work as usual.

Hi James, thanks a lot!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 13):
Good that you could use the travel voucher along with some more interesting types and places.

  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 13):
Annoying about the last minute delay on the Wizz Air flight - had a similar thing on AA the other week where everything was on time until the very last minute, and nobody could give a firm answer as to what was happening.

That's frustrating in any case - and even more annoying if you need to catch a connecting flight. But we all know the risk.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 13):
And I wonder why the guy just decided to make a run through passport control? Very odd.

Probably he was sought by the police? Or maybe he had entered the EU illegally?


PH



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12399 times:

Hello PH

Thanks for the nice read, it was a pleasure as always.
A lot of newbies for me! The 3 airlines looked to be nice
Great to log the SAAB twice, something on my list as well.
Same goes for the A318 and Wizz air!
However I'm quite dissapointed by the immigration in DTM! As German border control isn't usually that easy on me when I'm flying at all.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12395 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):

Thanks for the nice read, it was a pleasure as always.

Hi Marc, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Great to log the SAAB twice, something on my list as well.

It's not just rare, but also comfortable IMO.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Same goes for the A318 and Wizz air!

You should try to get on the A318 first. But on the other hand, who knows how stable Wizz Air is.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
However I'm quite dissapointed by the immigration in DTM! As German border control isn't usually that easy on me when I'm flying at all.

Yes, it was very odd.


PH



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12066 times:

Hey Udo  

Great report. Nice routing . Carpatair seem quite good .

Tarom a bit of a let down with the crew. The crew can make or break a flight experience but lucky you took the good parts and came away positive.

Look forward to the next TR  

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11775 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):

Great report. Nice routing .

Thank you, Philip!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Carpatair seem quite good .

Yes, they are indeed good. I hope all the best for them.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Tarom a bit of a let down with the crew. The crew can make or break a flight experience but lucky you took the good parts and came away positive.

  

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Look forward to the next TR

You'll love the combo of carriers in the next one!


PH



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1681 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11625 times:
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Hello PlaneHunter,

Thanks for this interesting and well pictured TR. A nice routing into the southwestern part of Europe and blimey, you received the A318 that was cancelled on me some months ago. Carpatair look really good, surprisingly better than Tarom imho. I still have to try Wizz though. How would you rate them against their 2 main competitors (LCC product that is): easyJet and Ryanair?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Surprisingly, the equipment on the short Tarom flight turned out to be an A318 - not a new type for me, but definitely more interesting than an ATR.

I would be most happy with an A318. Tarom still schedules it to BRU so maybe something to try out one of these…

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the flight attendant noticed that I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.

I can see by the course of your pics that you indeed obliged 

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The former's most interesting page - no complaints this time:

Do you look up the fleet info before or after the flight or maybe you know it by heart  Wow! Wait a moment… I know the answer already  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The friendly flight attendant soon distributed tasty sandwiches (ham, cheese & lettuce on tomato bread) and offered various drinks:

Impressive and warm welcomed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Can you imagine that these airlines are partners?

I can imagine but are they really?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One of Tarom's A310s which is leased out to the government
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We came to a stop next to Air Bucharest's one and only aircraft:

Some familiar sights when I was in OTP in Nov 2012.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Oh, and one flight attendant told me to stop taking pictures. Of course I stopped doing so...for a while.

Seems to be a common issue with these carriers!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lobby and breakfast room:

Wow, what a nice and homely hotel. It makes a good change from the busy and grand business city hotels.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Seat comfort was okay...

I do like the modern seat design and the colours used.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11434 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):

Thanks for this interesting and well pictured TR.

Hi Nils, thank you very much for your comments!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
A nice routing into the southwestern part of Europe and blimey, you received the A318 that was cancelled on me some months ago.

It's too bad you missed that one.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
Carpatair look really good, surprisingly better than Tarom imho.

  

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
I still have to try Wizz though. How would you rate them against their 2 main competitors (LCC product that is): easyJet and Ryanair?

I'd rate it better than Ryanair, no doubt about that. But I'd say it is behind easyJet.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
I would be most happy with an A318. Tarom still schedules it to BRU so maybe something to try out one of these…

Of course!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
I can see by the course of your pics that you indeed obliged

Just for a moment. I didn't post all pictures taken.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
Do you look up the fleet info before or after the flight or maybe you know it by heart Wow! Wait a moment… I know the answer already

  

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
I can imagine but are they really?

Yes.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
Seems to be a common issue with these carriers!

  

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 19):
Wow, what a nice and homely hotel. It makes a good change from the busy and grand business city hotels.

Absolutely. I can only recommend it.


PH



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11405 times:

Hi again PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
It was officially banned until recently?

Yes, at least at OTP--the official reason was that it's also an air force base.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
I guess those are 733s?

Yes, YR-BGA and -BGB to be precise.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
That's odd considering that the terminal building looks quite new.

They did extend the runway by 250m but I guess that's all they had money for.

FYI, regarding the A310, RO just got it back. It's not operating as presidential aircraft anymore. Apparently they'll use it on charter routes... maybe!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11365 times:

Hello PH, great report as always! Looks like a nice trip with many interesting airlines and airports. Shame about the delay on the way back though. Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11123 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):

Yes, at least at OTP--the official reason was that it's also an air force base.

Alright, thanks!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Yes, YR-BGA and -BGB to be precise.

Good to know.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
FYI, regarding the A310, RO just got it back. It's not operating as presidential aircraft anymore. Apparently they'll use it on charter routes... maybe!

Interesting, thanks!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 22):
Hello PH, great report as always!

Thanks for your comments, Robert!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 22):
Looks like a nice trip with many interesting airlines and airports.

  

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 22):
Shame about the delay on the way back though.

It was annoying, but they still brought me to DTM early enough.


PH



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User currently onlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 881 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11020 times:

Hi PH,

As always from you, a great report! When I see a new TR with the PlaneHunter name next to it I always know I'm in for a treat.  

Carpatair seem to be good (not so much TSR and OTP though). Didn't know there were bathroom windows in the Saab!

I must try a Saab one day (either a 340 or 2000), unfortunately they've never operated over here. This is Fokker-territory with the occasional Dash.  

TAROM seem ok, at least for such a short hop.

Your Wizz experience seems pretty good except for the delay, a carrier I would like to try one day just because of their color scheme!  

regards,
Sveinn  



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10888 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 24):
As always from you, a great report! When I see a new TR with the PlaneHunter name next to it I always know I'm in for a treat.

Hi Sveinn, thanks a lot for your kind words.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 24):

Carpatair seem to be good (not so much TSR and OTP though). Didn't know there were bathroom windows in the Saab!

Nice surprise, isn't it?

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 24):
I must try a Saab one day (either a 340 or 2000), unfortunately they've never operated over here. This is Fokker-territory with the occasional Dash.

Yes, you should try them. I prefer them over other props in terms of comfort.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 24):
TAROM seem ok, at least for such a short hop.

  

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 24):

Your Wizz experience seems pretty good except for the delay, a carrier I would like to try one day just because of their color scheme!

That's a good reason!


PH



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10832 times:

Hi PH,

I knew that a Romanian TR prepared by you was on its way so I'm certainly glad to see it's finally out.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Back in May 2012, I missed a Wizz Air flight from London/Luton to Gdansk because I had been stranded in Singapore (more details can be found here). After explaining the situation and sending some documents, the low-cost carrier transferred the amount paid for that flight as a credit for future travels to my Wizz Air account. However, the credit was only valid until yearend, so I decided to use it on a trip to Romania in September.

This is particularly impressive, especially coming from a low-cost carrier. Well done to them. When I flew Wizz back in 2004 I had some issues with my reservation and I recall how helpful their customer service was. It would have bugged me a lot to miss the opportunity to fly a booked flight with a new carrier because of extraneous reasons. It happened to me once (an Air Canada flight that got cancelled) and it still bugs me that I haven't managed to fly with them on a different occasion.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The former's most interesting page - no complaints this time:

Well done to them (and TAROM) on that front! Here I should also comment on Carpatair's livery and logo. I simply love the simplistic/retro look of it. Normally I don't dig such logos but theirs is particularly appealing to me yet I cannot explain why.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
When I tried to pass security at the domestic concourse, an unfriendly female officer refused entry after checking my boarding pass. I insisted that I was having a valid boarding pass, but it was pointless. Her English was very limited and I started assuming that it simply wasn't possible yet to go to the domestic gates. A police officer finally confirmed exactly that and explained that access would be possible two hours or so before departure. Since the few domestic evening departures leave within a period of about an hour, this policy makes sense, I guess.

One of my pet peeves. I don't care whether the airport is regional or if we're talking about a domestic terminal: My view is that airport staff that interact with passengers should have a rudimentary knowledge of English. How difficult could have been for her to learn to say "the area will open in 30-40 mins" or "in 1 hour" or whatever, in English? I bet you are not the first foreigner to ever attempt to get there...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
He told us that everybody could pass! No more controls, nothing. Sure, why not expand the Schengen zone for a minute? That's definitely not the right approach!

This is no un-German! I'm speechless...

Thanks for the nice read PH. I have flown both Tarom and Wizz in the past and your report brought back a bunch of memories.

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlineluxair747sp From Germany, joined May 2010, 504 posts, RR: 17
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10690 times:

Hi PH,

Nice Report about your Romania trip.
Carpatair looks quite good, but i expected somewhat more of Tarom, especially seat wise, as they fly those A318 to DXB sometimes and its quite a long journey on hard seats...

Thanks a lot for sharing
Cheers
Johannes


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10586 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
I knew that a Romanian TR prepared by you was on its way so I'm certainly glad to see it's finally out.

Hi Widebodyroga! Many thanks for your feedback! Great to hear you liked it.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
This is particularly impressive, especially coming from a low-cost carrier. Well done to them.

Yes, I was very surprised. And the very friendly tone in the e-mails was also nice.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
When I flew Wizz back in 2004 I had some issues with my reservation and I recall how helpful their customer service was.

Great!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
It happened to me once (an Air Canada flight that got cancelled) and it still bugs me that I haven't managed to fly with them on a different occasion.

That's bad. But I'm sure you'll get another chance.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
Here I should also comment on Carpatair's livery and logo. I simply love the simplistic/retro look of it. Normally I don't dig such logos but theirs is particularly appealing to me yet I cannot explain why.

Yes, I also like it.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
I don't care whether the airport is regional or if we're talking about a domestic terminal: My view is that airport staff that interact with passengers should have a rudimentary knowledge of English. How difficult could have been for her to learn to say "the area will open in 30-40 mins" or "in 1 hour" or whatever, in English? I bet you are not the first foreigner to ever attempt to get there...

I can only agree! Some basic English skills would be helpful.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
This is no un-German! I'm speechless...

Absolutely!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):

Thanks for the nice read PH. I have flown both Tarom and Wizz in the past and your report brought back a bunch of memories.

Thanks again!

Quoting luxair747sp (Reply 27):
Nice Report about your Romania trip.

Hi Johannes, thank you for your reply!

Quoting luxair747sp (Reply 27):
Carpatair looks quite good, but i expected somewhat more of Tarom, especially seat wise, as they fly those A318 to DXB sometimes and its quite a long journey on hard seats...

Yes, there are more comfortable ways to fly to Dubai. As far as I know, they also use the 73G to DXB. But they have attractive fares...


PH



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1222 posts, RR: 17
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10550 times:

Hi PH

Very nice to see another report from you. Thanks for this.

Until last year, the Saab2000 was missing from my log. I really enjoyed my flight from IOM to LCY on the leased example to BA Cityflyer. It's a shame it was not commercially more successful.

Lovely pics - as always.

Quote:
Unfortunately, the flight attendant noticed that I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.

Oh no! Always something I am keen to avoid.

Quote:
One of Tarom's A310s which is leased out to the government:

I remember seeing both of them at LHR years ago when they used to operate here regularly. Seemed like a strange choice of aircraft for such a short route, unless there was a) absence of other aircraft or b) lots of cargo to carry!?

Quote:
All the flight attendants I had to pass appeared unfriendly, no smiles anywhere. My seat was rock hard…

Pretty much sums up in a few words the image Tarom have here in Europe...!

Quote:
Oh, and one flight attendant told me to stop taking pictures. Of course I stopped doing so...for a while.

However, the safety video (black and white only on the nearest screen) was still running and some flight attendants were still moving around in the cabin.

LOL so of course Tarom are concerned about safety because goodness knows what would happen if you use your camera... but heck, let's not bother about being ready or seated for take off. Perhaps Tarom have been taking cabin safety instructions from fellow Skyteam carrier, China Southern? Although in the latter's case, the safety demonstration had always finished and the crew were seated before take off...!

Quote:
The owner welcomed me, turned on an English news channel and freshly made a big breakfast - what else can you ask for?

Very nice! Great stuff.

Glad you managed to get back OK despite the delay on Wizz Air. Nice new A320 as well.

Thanks again, Palmjet



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1150 posts, RR: 3
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10391 times:
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Hi PH!

Like always another fantastic report with many nice pictures! Very nice of Wizz Air to credit those missed flights back and you sure came up with a nice itinerary to go with it!
Carpatair looks quite impressive with nice service. The Saab2000 is indeed a great prop to fly, nice to see you enjoyed it as well  
Tarom also looks quite nice for the short hop, shame about the FAs though..
Not too much to say about Wizz except shame for the delay..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
YR-SBE has recently been retired (fleet down to four frames) and is intended for Darwin Airlines

The pilot is looking straight at you there!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Interesting perspective

Indeed, what a beauty!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Just behind the wing, perfect location

Exactly my opinion  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A Romanian English-language newspaper was offered shortly after takeoff:

A nice touch

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One of Tarom's A310s which is leased out to the government:

Didn't they used to fly those over to the USA a while back?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then her father showed me the room

The room looks quite nice for the price paid. The owner sounds like a very nice woman  

Thanks for sharing!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1926 posts, RR: 24
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10326 times:
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Great report, PH!

It's good to see a report from you. It looks like you had some good flights with Carpatair and Wizz. What interesting airlines!

Thanks for sharing,

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineparton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9995 times:

Hi PH!

Thanks for the great story! Nice to see this Romanian carriers, you don´t see them too often here!

Congratulations to the SAAB2000! It´s a great A/C even if I somewhat partial  It´s been ages since I flew it now, last time with SK in 1999 I think. Hope to try it out one day again.

Nice to see the A318 too, rare A/C for sure, still something I´ve to try.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Saab 2000 more pleasant than on modern ATRs or Dashs

Agree with you on that. The ATR´s especially is really loud I think. Even the -500 is surprisingly loud for being such a new A/C. I flew on the older ATR -200 model for the first time two weeks ago, sat just next to the propeller, that was really LOUD!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.  

You have to be more discrete!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Since September 2012, two Saabs have been retired, all Fokker 70s have left the fleet and two ATR 72-500s have joined the fleet. One of the latter made a crash landing at Rome in February, unfortunately, while operating for Alitalia.

Interesting, they must have reduced their network quit much then?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The friendly flight attendant soon distributed tasty sandwiches (ham, cheese & lettuce on tomato bread) and offered various drinks:

Looks good for such a short flight!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Can you imagine that these airlines are partners

No, I can´t!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
d turned onto the runway a few minutes later. However, the safety video (black and white only on the nearest screen) was still running and some flight attendants

Interesting, on a MA flight once they showed the end of the safety video during take off!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lobby and breakfast room

Looks cozy

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I decided to order a beer for 3 Euro and an average sandwich (chicken breast, cheese, taco sauce) for 4 Euro

That´s OK. Wizz seem to be a quit good LCC. They have some amazing fares on flights from Sweden.

Again PH, thanks for the great story. Nice pictures and read!

Greetings
Robert


User currently offlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1409 posts, RR: 10
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9847 times:

Great report. I have flown on Carpatair quite a few times. I was lucky enough to be offered the jump-seat once while flying from MUC to TSR. Timisoara is a very small airport for its size. I had to spend a few hours there and the only thing they have is a small little cafe. Not very interesting.

OTP is a much better airport, but I can't remember how the domestic departure area is. It has been a while since I flew out of Bucharest to an internal destination. I think it was 2008 when I also flew with Tarom's A318 from OTP to CLJ.

Too bad you didn't spend any time in Timisoara or Cluj. They're pretty nice cities and you can have a good time there. I always enjoy Cluj. As a matter of fact I'm heading there in June. Looking forward to flying with Wizzair as well. Keep an eye out for a report that I'll try to do once I come back.

Nice pictures and good writing. Thanks again.



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User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1298 posts, RR: 5
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

Hey PH,

Thank you for another interesting report. Romania is high on my 'to do' list, and with Wizzair just opened new low-cost route OTP-TLV, few days visit is on the way for sure.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The cabin was equipped with dark blue leather seats and seemed to be in good shape:

Look good indeed. I don't think I ever saw saab airplane in my own eyes.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A Romanian English-language newspaper was offered shortly after takeoff:

Interesting name. Printing hour maybe?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Cool stuff on offer in the shopping magazine:

And good prices too! I would buy the F100.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had ordered a (tasty) black tea, she asked whether I'd also like a cold drink. So I ordered an orange juice and then she asked: "Do you need anything else? One more meal?" Very attentive! thumbsup

Wow, during all my flights I was never asked this question. Need to loose some weight I guess...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
where you can only find a limited number of seats and only one bathroom (one cabin!) for each gender:

Same in Bulgaria's Burgas airport. Horrible, in particular for the ladies.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Views from the room on the next morning:

Very authentic.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Network:

Where is Tel Aviv?! Wizz is flying here both from BUD & OTP.

Very interesting read, thank you for shearing.
Jonathan



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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9539 times:

Hey PH !

Great and very interesting report (as usual) !
Carpatair looks nice, they serve very good food I think much better food than other EU carriers.
Also, the Saab is something really interesting to log, maybe once in the future.
Always good to log an A318, well in europe it isn't that rare than in other parts of the world but interesting nevertheless, I will fly on one of those in august on AF.

Thanks again for the report

Elias


User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 766 posts, RR: 12
Reply 36, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9325 times:

That's a really good report PH, exotic carriers for me and as usual, great pictures with all the details needed to get the perfect insight. Good for you that the LCC Wizzair allowed you to travel again. Also do you consider the Saab2000 more comfortable than the Bae J31 or identical?
Tarom flight seems to be ok for a such short trip. Nothing else!
The brand new cabin is definitely attractive on the wizzair Airbus

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the flight attendant noticed that I was taking pictures during taxi and asked me to turn off my camera. Well, of course I agreed.  

LOL, you are definitely a bad boy  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Carpatair serves drinks and snacks free of charge, except for alcoholic beverages:

Very nice, much better than some other carriers

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You don't need to fly First Class on certain carriers to get a loo with a view:

Is it Etihad which provides that feature in Y too?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It soon started raining, so it was impossible to take decent pictures during landing.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but now I was facing the sun and couldn't take decent pictures.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Oh, and one flight attendant told me to stop taking pictures. Of course I stopped doing so...for a while.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Unfortunately, I was soon facing the sun and couldn't take any more decent pictures.

Too bad.... oh wait... glad to read you complied with the F/As policy  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
1st flight on HA-LWQ
46th A320-200 flight
47th A320 flight
143rd airline

Always impressive stats, do you count also when you were very young?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
At one point, almost 1.5 hours after the scheduled departure time, the captain showed up on the stairs and the expression on his face didn't look good in my opinion,

Oh no, delays with no explanation are even more stressful

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I'd prefer to see them in the sea, far away from homes...

What is the difference? the noise level?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Sure, why not expand the Schengen zone for a minute?

Such a long wait for that is rather pointless... any reasons for this sudden change?


Many thanks for sharing  
looking forward for more reports



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 37, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8746 times:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):
Very nice to see another report from you. Thanks for this.

Hi Palmjet, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):
Until last year, the Saab2000 was missing from my log. I really enjoyed my flight from IOM to LCY on the leased example to BA Cityflyer.

Excellent choice!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):
It's a shame it was not commercially more successful.

Absolutely, it's such a nice aircraft.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):

Oh no! Always something I am keen to avoid.

  

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):

LOL so of course Tarom are concerned about safety because goodness knows what would happen if you use your camera... but heck, let's not bother about being ready or seated for take off. Perhaps Tarom have been taking cabin safety instructions from fellow Skyteam carrier, China Southern?

  

Quoting palmjet (Reply 29):
Glad you managed to get back OK despite the delay on Wizz Air. Nice new A320 as well.

Always good to get a new aircraft.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Like always another fantastic report with many nice pictures!

Hi Brendan, thanks a lot for your comments! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Very nice of Wizz Air to credit those missed flights back and you sure came up with a nice itinerary to go with it!

   I was very surprised by that move.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Carpatair looks quite impressive with nice service. The Saab2000 is indeed a great prop to fly, nice to see you enjoyed it as well

Nice airline, nice aircraft!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Didn't they used to fly those over to the USA a while back?

I think so, yes. A long time ago!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
The room looks quite nice for the price paid. The owner sounds like a very nice woman

        

Quoting 767747 (Reply 31):
It's good to see a report from you. It looks like you had some good flights with Carpatair and Wizz. What interesting airlines!

Hi Matthew, many thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Thanks for the great story! Nice to see this Romanian carriers, you don´t see them too often here!
Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Again PH, thanks for the great story. Nice pictures and read!

Hi Robert, thank you very much for your feedback!

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Congratulations to the SAAB2000! It´s a great A/C even if I somewhat partial

Great aircraft indeed, just like the Saab 340.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Nice to see the A318 too, rare A/C for sure, still something I´ve to try.

Those should be around for a while.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Agree with you on that. The ATR´s especially is really loud I think. Even the -500 is surprisingly loud for being such a new A/C. I flew on the older ATR -200 model for the first time two weeks ago, sat just next to the propeller, that was really LOUD!

Yes, ATRs are very loud, even the modern versions.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Interesting, they must have reduced their network quit much then?

Unfortunately, yes. It seems the airline is in trouble. I hope all the best for them.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):

Looks good for such a short flight!

  

Quoting parton87 (Reply 32):
Interesting, on a MA flight once they showed the end of the safety video during take off!

That's very late!

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
Great report.
Quoting vio (Reply 33):

Nice pictures and good writing. Thanks again.

Thanks, vio! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
I have flown on Carpatair quite a few times. I was lucky enough to be offered the jump-seat once while flying from MUC to TSR.

That sounds exciting!

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
Timisoara is a very small airport for its size. I had to spend a few hours there and the only thing they have is a small little cafe. Not very interesting.

No doubt about that.

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
I think it was 2008 when I also flew with Tarom's A318 from OTP to CLJ.

Nice short route, isn't it?

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
Too bad you didn't spend any time in Timisoara or Cluj. They're pretty nice cities and you can have a good time there. I always enjoy Cluj.

Well, next time!

Quoting vio (Reply 33):
As a matter of fact I'm heading there in June. Looking forward to flying with Wizzair as well. Keep an eye out for a report that I'll try to do once I come back.

Sounds interesting!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 34):
Thank you for another interesting report.
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 34):
Very interesting read, thank you for shearing.

Hi Jonathan, good to hear from you! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 34):
Romania is high on my 'to do' list, and with Wizzair just opened new low-cost route OTP-TLV, few days visit is on the way for sure.

Good idea!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 34):
Wow, during all my flights I was never asked this question. Need to loose some weight I guess...

 

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 34):
Same in Bulgaria's Burgas airport. Horrible, in particular for the ladies.

Oh, that sounds really bad!

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 35):
Great and very interesting report (as usual) !

Hi Elias, thanks for your comments!

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 35):
Carpatair looks nice, they serve very good food I think much better food than other EU carriers.

They used to have even better catering!

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 35):
Also, the Saab is something really interesting to log, maybe once in the future.

I can only recommend that.

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 35):
Always good to log an A318, well in europe it isn't that rare than in other parts of the world but interesting nevertheless, I will fly on one of those in august on AF.

Good luck! Hopefully there won't be an equipment change.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
That's a really good report PH, exotic carriers for me and as usual, great pictures with all the details needed to get the perfect insight.

Many thanks for your comments, Léo! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Good for you that the LCC Wizzair allowed you to travel again.

That was a nice surprise.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Also do you consider the Saab2000 more comfortable than the Bae J31 or identical?

I haven't flown on the J31, but the Saabs are very comfortable.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
LOL, you are definitely a bad boy

 

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Is it Etihad which provides that feature in Y too?

I don't know, haven't seen that yet.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Too bad.... oh wait... glad to read you complied with the F/As policy

 

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Always impressive stats, do you count also when you were very young?

No, unfortunately. I made some A300B and A310 flights on Hapag Lloyd and Condor back then, that's all I know.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):

Oh no, delays with no explanation are even more stressful

  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
What is the difference? the noise level?

Yes, and not just that.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 36):
Such a long wait for that is rather pointless... any reasons for this sudden change?

I don't know. Very odd happening.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1798 posts, RR: 18
Reply 38, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8623 times:

Hi Udo

Thanks for another interesting report. But you're too quick, somehow I feel I've gone completely out of sequence in reading about your aviatic escapades.

I certainly enjoyed the part of your report on the Saab 2000, which brought back fond memories of the many trips I took on one of those when Crossair still existed and it was considered normal to have a meal served on a real plate with real cutlery.

I've never tried WizzAir myself but from the pictures you posted, they don't look half bad and those magenta(?) coloured seats are very seriously funky. In fact, the only airline in your report that seems a bit iffy is Tarom.

Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7558 times:

Hi PH, what a great read about these 2 airlines. I wonder how much longer Carpetair will be around!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Surprisingly, the equipment on the short Tarom flight turned out to be an A318 - not a new type for me, but definitely more interesting than an ATR.

Sure, the A318 is a rare species!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Checking in online wasn't possible for flights from Munich, but I had been able to select my seats during the booking process (free of charge, btw).

Good things though, free seat selection during booking. I like that option  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A Romanian English-language newspaper was offered shortly after takeoff:

I think it's really interesting to read those 'local' (English) papers, and I tend to take one onboard when abroad

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The friendly flight attendant soon distributed tasty sandwiches (ham, cheese & lettuce on tomato bread) and offered various drinks:

Impressive catering by Carpetair, comes closely to WX service here.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Fortunately, boarding commenced early. I was glad that the bus stopped next to an A318 - no last minute aircraft change. YR-ASC is one of four frames in the fleet:

Nice catch and indeed luckily not an old B733 for you instead. The cabin interior looks not so nice to me though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then her father showed me the room which was big and really nice, just like the lobby. I was impressed by the choice of colors and design elements:

Judging from the pics, I think I would really like this hotel as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I'd prefer to see them in the sea, far away from homes...

Haha, our power of the future. I get a few in vicinity of my neighbourhood, as far as I heard.

Looking forward to your next stories!

Eric



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7097 times:

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 38):
Thanks for another interesting report.

Hi William, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm sorry for my late reply. I hadn' been very active in the last few weeks. Should change again soon.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 38):
But you're too quick, somehow I feel I've gone completely out of sequence in reading about your aviatic escapades.

Actually I'm quite slow with my reports...I still have to clean up my backlog from 2012.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 38):
I certainly enjoyed the part of your report on the Saab 2000, which brought back fond memories of the many trips I took on one of those when Crossair still existed and it was considered normal to have a meal served on a real plate with real cutlery.

Those were the days!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 38):

I've never tried WizzAir myself but from the pictures you posted, they don't look half bad and those magenta(?) coloured seats are very seriously funky.

Yes, Wizz Air isn't bad at all - at least much better than Ryanair. The difference of coloring in the cabins alone says a lot.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 38):
In fact, the only airline in your report that seems a bit iffy is Tarom.

It was better than expected - I hadn't expected to get anything on such a short hop.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Hi PH, what a great read about these 2 airlines.

Hi Eric, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
I wonder how much longer Carpetair will be around!

Things don't look good, unfortunately. All Saabs are gone, only three aircraft left.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Good things though, free seat selection during booking. I like that option

Yes, I was very surprised.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
I think it's really interesting to read those 'local' (English) papers, and I tend to take one onboard when abroad

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Impressive catering by Carpetair, comes closely to WX service here.

Carpatair used to serve even better stuff.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Nice catch and indeed luckily not an old B733 for you instead. The cabin interior looks not so nice to me though.

Well, I logged the A318 before, so it wouldn't have been too bad to get a 733, or the 73G in Skyteam colors...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Judging from the pics, I think I would really like this hotel as well.

I can only recommend it. Should you need a hotel at CLJ once, choose this one.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Haha, our power of the future. I get a few in vicinity of my neighbourhood, as far as I heard.

Well, at least certain people are convinced it's the power of the future. I'm skeptical.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 39):
Looking forward to your next stories!

Next one's in the making.


PH



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6902 times:
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Hi PH!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 7):

PH I will comment on this later. Glad to see you back

Glad I can finally comment on this report of yours! I hope you will continue to post more trip reports.....

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main targets were Carpatair and its Saab 2000 on the Munich-Timisoara route, though.

I imagined you as a mighty eagle hunting it's prey as you swooped down on the Carpatair and it's Saab 2000 lol....You are

after all Plane Hunter.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Saab 2000 which is a nice looking aircraft in my opinion. Powered by Rolls Royce:

Reminds me of one of those slim long bugs with large antlers....a real big bug indeed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Carpatair serves drinks and snacks free of charge

North American carriers are you listening...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The friendly flight attendant soon distributed tasty sandwiches (ham, cheese & lettuce on tomato

bread) and offered various drinks:

And are you listening again...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had ordered a (tasty) black tea, she asked whether I'd also like a cold drink. So I

ordered an orange juice and then she asked: "Do you need anything else? One more meal?" Very attentive!

Now I want to shout out at the airlnes here lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The former's most interesting page - no complaints this time:

Only you PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Can you imagine that these airlines are partners?

Yes they do have similarities, and could be mistaken for each other...more than partners I would say twins, like Hainan and

HongKong airlines...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Carpatair also serves free drinks and snacks on domestic hops:

Speechless!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Carpatair
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Tarom
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Wizz Air

Love the colour co-ordination with the airline colour schemes...Why the different colour for Tarom...a darker blue could

still be read...great attention to detail.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One of Tarom's A310s which is leased out to the government:

Tarom's A310s used to come to Karachi a long time ago...a really long time ago

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, the safety video (black and white only on the nearest screen)

How old is that video if it's in black and white. Apart from planes required to be modern, the rest of the services should be updated.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

To my surprise, I discovered numerous spotter pictures taken at the airport...

A nice dedication to the spotters at the airport.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Inflight magazine:

No fleet pictures for your eagle eyes, PH? lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Spotless HA-LWQ shining in the September sun:

Nice shot...if it was HA-LWA it would be a confectionary delicacy in Pakistan...planes are our little sweet treats are they not.

Now don't disappear again PH...I know you have a long line of reports you still have to post here....let's see you back in full force!!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 42, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6447 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Glad I can finally comment on this report of yours! I hope you will continue to post more trip reports.....

Hi flightsimboy, many thanks for your nice comments! Yes, don't worry, numerous reports to follow...I'm also planning to get them out faster.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
I imagined you as a mighty eagle hunting it's prey as you swooped down on the Carpatair and it's Saab 2000 lol....You are after all Plane Hunter.

        

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Reminds me of one of those slim long bugs with large antlers....a real big bug indeed.

You are right!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
North American carriers are you listening...
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
And are you listening again...
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Now I want to shout out at the airlnes here lol
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Speechless!

The service was impressive, Carpatair as a whole doesn't seem to be a good role model. The airline is down to three aircraft now, things don't look good.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Only you PH!

 

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Love the colour co-ordination with the airline colour schemes...Why the different colour for Tarom...a darker blue could still be read...great attention to detail.

Dark blue is too dark for A.net...I chose the yellow tone because it's in the Romanian flag.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Tarom's A310s used to come to Karachi a long time ago...a really long time ago

Very odd - was that a regular destination?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
How old is that video if it's in black and white. Apart from planes required to be modern, the rest of the services should be updated.

Oh, it was black and white because the screen was broken.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
A nice dedication to the spotters at the airport.

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
No fleet pictures for your eagle eyes, PH? lol

There was a single picture somewhere, but no detailed fleet info page.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Nice shot...if it was HA-LWA it would be a confectionary delicacy in Pakistan...planes are our little sweet treats are they not.

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 41):
Now don't disappear again PH...I know you have a long line of reports you still have to post here....let's see you back in full force!!

Watch out for a new one in the next few days...I'll report about a Middle East(ern) Airline... which hasn't shown up here very often.  


PH

[Edited 2013-06-27 23:22:58]


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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 7
Reply 43, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 42):
Very odd - was that a regular destination?

Regarding Karachi, I know my mother flew OTP-KHI-PEK around 92/93. I'm not sure if she flew that route twice or it was once through Karachi and one directly to PEK.

I also believe one time it was an Il-62 and the other time an A310.


User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 44, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6205 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 43):
Regarding Karachi, I know my mother flew OTP-KHI-PEK around 92/93. I'm not sure if she flew that route twice or it was once through Karachi and one directly to PEK.


I also believe one time it was an Il-62 and the other time an A310.

Yes it was the stop en route to Beijing...and I recall seeing an A310....thanks DC9northwest.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 45, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5849 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 43):
Regarding Karachi, I know my mother flew OTP-KHI-PEK around 92/93. I'm not sure if she flew that route twice or it was once through Karachi and one directly to PEK.

I also believe one time it was an Il-62 and the other time an A310.
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 44):
Yes it was the stop en route to Beijing...and I recall seeing an A310....

Interesting, thanks!


PH



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User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 46, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Hello PlaneHunter

Again a very enjoyable report. Congratulations on catching the Saab 2000. It's one of my favourites and I have flown both aircraft in your report multiple times in their former appearance.

The immigration procedure at DTM was certainly ..... err..... interesting. What about all those poor extra-Schengen people who need a passport stamp. I hope they did not get into trouble when leaving Schengen again due to the missing stamp...

Best regards, LXM83


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 47, posted (1 year 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 46):
Again a very enjoyable report.

Hi LXM83, thanks a lot for your comments! Sorry for my late reply.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 46):
Congratulations on catching the Saab 2000. It's one of my favourites and I have flown both aircraft in your report multiple times in their former appearance.

Thanks, it was about time. Too bad Carpatair has retired these nice planes.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 46):
The immigration procedure at DTM was certainly ..... err..... interesting. What about all those poor extra-Schengen people who need a passport stamp. I hope they did not get into trouble when leaving Schengen again due to the missing stamp...

Yes, good point. It was very odd.


PH



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