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USA 2013 Pt 2: BA A320/744 WTP CDG-LHR-IAD  
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14355 times:


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Hello all, welcome to the second part of a five part series covering my trip to the USA in April 2013. This part will cover my journey back from Paris to London Heathrow, and then onwards to Washington. For those that might have missed it, the first part of the series can be found here:

USA 2013 Pt 1: The Beginning BA LHR-ORY (by jwhite9185 Apr 20 2013 in Trip Reports)

And the related videos for this part:

Departure from CDG: http://youtu.be/k2nsqp0cQZk
Arrival at LHR: http://youtu.be/QKUSwLRG3pQ

Departure from LHR: http://youtu.be/fa0DM_nAeBM
Arrival into IAD: http://youtu.be/EMevnDwUdL4

A few days before departure, the seat map for the first sector opened right up and I managed to bag seat 5A, therefore having the middle seat free.

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However a day later I was unexpectedly moved back to 7A, and the middle seat was no longer blocked, despite being the first row behind Club. Oh well. Of interest, the BA website said the aircraft type was the scheduled A319, despite it being a seatmap for an A320.

The onward sector to Washington remained pretty full throughout:

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My morning started at 5am. I checked out of the hotel and headed over to the CDGVAL to terminal 2, arriving a few moments later.


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Upon arrival, it was a pretty long walk over to the BA check in desks that were hidden in a basement.



When I got there, I was met with a pretty long queue however my BA status meant I could bypass this and head for the Club Europe check in where there wasn't anybody waiting at all. There were a few problems upon checking in - first off, they said my API hadn't been completed - which it had, and then when presenting my visa card for verification, they said this wasn't the card used for payment... Yeah because the card I had used for payment had expired. Eventually everything was sorted, although I was a little upset I didn't get given one of those transferring at T5 booklets!

After this it was through security. Reasonably busy, but not too slow. Basically the opposite experience of T5! As usual it was then straight into a duty free shop.



I wanted to buy a couple of bits, however I was told it was closed. In fact pretty much the whole terminal seemed closed.


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That’ll explain why this place is deserted!


The only place I could really find to grab anything to drink was a vending machine... So that had to do.

It was then a case of waiting around at gate A47 for boarding to commence. A few moments later the crew of four cabin and two flight turned up, but as there were no ground staff around, they were forced to wait too.

Unfortunately, the views weren't brilliant, so couldn't really see much of the movements outside.

Boarding eventually started at 07:00.



As I was heading down the jetway, I finally found a small window to see the landing gear doors – ‘YL meant I would be on one of the more recent additions to the BA fleet having joined just a few days over 22 months ago. Turned out this flight had been subbed for an A320 rather than the A319.




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CDG-LHR
4th April 2013
A320-232 / G-EUYL
Seat: 7A / Euro Traveller
Scheduled: 07:30/07:40
Off Stand: 07:28
On Stand: 08:05


Once on board, I was welcomed back by name and I noticed I did actually have the first row behind club, however I did have two seat mates - so I guess on the odd occasion all three seats behind club are sold? Either way, the legroom in this row was very good – better than I had experienced in Club/Business on both BA and other airlines in fact.


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Albino El-Al next door


Shortly after the captain was on the PA saying boarding was complete well ahead of schedule and thanking everybody for arriving on time. It was now just a case of waiting for our slot to come around so we could push back. He also mentioned we would have to be de iced - a new experience for me! A flight time of 44 minutes was given so he was still hopeful of an on time arrival.

Push back was a couple of minutes ahead of schedule, however having to taxi to the furthest runway and then be de iced, despite being ready well ahead of schedule we didn't actually lift off until 08:00 – a thirty minute delay.

This one followed us pretty much all the way – despite being on tow.



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After ten or fifteen minutes or so, we entered the pit box to be de iced.


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And a further ten minutes or so later, we pulled away, the flaps were extended, flight controls tested and made our way to the runway. Luckily we were allowed an intersection departure rather than having to taxi right to the threshold, which would no doubt take even more time.


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Once we had departed, it was a few turns in the direction of the UK.


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Once through the cloud layer the breakfast service started. Quite a tasty salami and cheese roll and a cup of tea. I didn't actually ask for the OJ, but was handed it anyway. Nice and pro-active there.


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Not often you get two windows in economy on an A32X!


While breakfast was going down, descent started. The crew made the round clearing the cabin – one guy being very cheerful indeed – whistling away and humming to himself for pretty much the whole flight! This was handy as I knew when to hide my camera as I could hear him coming from a few rows back! Once over the UK there was quite a few cloud layers.


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This aircraft didn't seem to have any drop down screens, so no way of tracking our progress. The flight was your typical short Euro hop really – takeoff, thrown a meal and a drink, have the rubbish snatched away shortly after and then land. As the skies were overcast throughout, there weren’t even any decent views to be had. Pretty non descript flight really – much like my sector over to MUC last year.

Unsurprisingly, we were placed into a hold for around ten minutes or so. The flight crew also mentioned that it was pretty chilly down there.


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VS A330 also flying around in circles above us.


After a good few minutes in the hold above my house, we were ushered onto finals, although there wasn’t a huge amount to be seen. The cabin crew didn’t get the ‘seats for landing’ instruction until quite late into finals – pretty much as we passed Windsor actually.


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We landed on to 09L at around 08:00, arriving on to stand a few moments later.


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The AA 77W is a pretty common sight at LHR.




We then arrived on to stand and the normal stampede to exit began.

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Once into the terminal, it was a case of following the signs to flight connections.

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I had my boarding pass scanned, welcomed back by name and asked how I was doing. I love how a little bit of status makes people so much nicer!

I was fine at that point, but then it was up to security. Now I'm not totally sure of the logic of making transfer passengers clear security again, but it was very slow, despite not being very busy. Very poor planning. Having spoken to my auntie who spent many years working for BAA over at T4 a week or so later, she said it was the same deal there too. Yet pretty much every other place I’ve transferred at I could just go straight to my next gate. I’m led to believe that even coming from another terminal at LHR avoids this extra security check. Very strange.

Soon after clearing security I paid another visit to the South end of the terminal

The problems getting out of Paris meant the aircrafts next mission had a 30 minute delay




Before long though, it was time to head over to gate B33 via the transit. I was glad about this as I’d not visited T5B before – at least while it was in operation!


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Nice choice of location for this one!


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Once at the gate I would either be on G-BYGA or G-BNLM.


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As it turned out, it would be G-BYGA operating today's flight, one of the newer 747's in British Airways fleet, although I use that term loosely as the aircraft in question was delivered in 1998 wearing the Chelsea Rose world tail scheme.

Pre boarding was announced at 09:10, but that didn't stop a huge group trying their luck anyway.


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They were promptly told to sit back down again though. Boarding proper started at 09:20, although there wasn't any pre boarding for World Traveller Plus - one major difference from VS. It was finally my turn at 09:30 for my first BA longhaul flight for sixteen years.


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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14590 times:


BA217
LHR-IAD
4th April 2013
747-436 / G-BYGA
Seat: 30K / World Traveller Plus
Scheduled: 09:55/12:50
Off Stand: 09:58
On Stand: 12:47



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The legroom was good, however the IFE boxes were awkwardly placed.


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The load in World Traveller Plus was pretty good. In fact I'm not sure I saw a spare seat.

The entertainment system was switched in from boarding, a new experience for me.


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During boarding, the menus were handed out. Neither option really jumped out at me.


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Safety demo in progress


Pushback was more or less on schedule, however upon reaching 09R there was a bit of a hold up.




Around ten minutes later, the flight deck were on the PA stating the hold up was due to the runway being inspected, and that we should be underway shortly although there was nothing to worry about as this is standard procedure. Around 10:25, we took to the air, making an immediate right turn and then into cloud. The captain had previously mentioned our route and it seemed we would be taking quite a northerly track.


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Around twenty minutes after departure the drinks service began. This was a much better option than experienced with VS last year, as I'm not a fan of eating lunch at 11am! Doubles were dished out without asking.


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Cabin overview shortly after departure


Once things outside had clouded over, I took a proper look at the IFE system. It was either touch screen or operated using the controller.


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We had company over Ireland.



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Around 12:00 London time the lunch service began. As I'd previously mentioned, neither option really jumped out at me, but I decided on the beef. It was very good actually, along with the starter and desert. In fact I'm pretty sure this was one of the only occasions I'd given a tray back with nothing left on it – including the cutlery!! I had a sneak peak at my seatmate’s fish, and although it smelled decent enough I'd didn’t look as appealing. I was led to believe that Word Traveller Plus has the same meal service as Club World, however the trolleys were dragged from the back of the cabin and carried on into World Traveller (economy) once we had been served. Although the food and presentation did seem of a high-ish quality. Certainly higher than what I’d expect of your standard economy meal service anyway.


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After this I settled down to watch a couple of films - This Is 40 and I'll Give It A Year. Typical plane movies really. Neither brilliant, but good enough to waste a few hours, along with a few glances outside.


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Throughout the flight, the crew were pretty good with distributing drinks - about every thirty minutes or so.


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Once the films had finished I'd, noticed we were passing a pretty cold area of Canada. The layout of the WTP cabin is a little awkward as the seats are set back from the windows, therefore making photography a little difficult. The fact row 30 is misaligned too didn’t help matters either.


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Once the live IFE had finished, due to it clouding over, I went for a walk, and had a chat to the crew.

Pretty small economy cabin


Confirmation of the reg.





After I'd felt I'd outstayed my welcome in the galley, I returned to my seat. Luckily by this point the clouds had cleared and the views had returned. Just a shame I had a fairly important lump of metal blocking most of the view.



The final two hours of the flight were spent listening to music and watching the distance drop on the skymap. Final cruising altitude was 38,000ft


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These had seen better days


With around 90 minutes of the flight remaining, afternoon tea was served. Very good also.


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Slowly edging towards our destination



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The flight was then winding down. The crew were tidying the cabin and at just before midday local, I felt us heading back towards solid ground so the iPod was switched off as things were going to get interesting again. We initially descended to 26,000ft and then around twenty minutes later descent started properly.


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Touchdown was at around 12:45


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We taxied over to the stand, pulling in alongside A KE 77W.



Disembarkation was pretty quick due to the dual airbridges I disembarked through L1 and it was on to one of the famous IAD moon buggies. There was a bit of a wait while it filled up, but then it was a pretty good tour of IAD, passing pretty close by a VX A320 just starting up – so close that it was actually too close to get a picture.


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Immigration took around 30 minutes - not brilliant but still better than JFK by a long way.




Once through it was on to a bus for the thirty minute or so drive to Rosslyn station. The official bus was well signposted but there wasn’t a mention of any others. I eventually asked and was sent in the right direction


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Once at Rosslyn, it was on to the metro to my hotel, the Doubletree at Pentagon City. Upon checking in, I was informed that I'd been upgraded to a suite and given two free cookies! Result!


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The view from the living area of my room.


And the view from the bedroom.


After a couple of hours, I headed back out to the local mall to grab a bite to eat.

Looks good doesn't it Philip!


Wow, they’re accurate!


By the time I was done I was feeling pretty tired, so headed back, watched some awful American TV, watched a couple of arrivals into DCA and then went to bed.




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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14431 times:

The following morning, I headed out to see what Washington had to offer. Quite a bit actually – very nice city and everything was within a reasonable walking distance.


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Shame this was closed off due to the earthquake a couple of years back.



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Washington is also a good city for watching planes!



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One of the locals



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One of the many war memorials



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After going to the American History museum, it was off to the one place I was looking forward to visiting the most on this trip. Well worth a visit it was too!


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Wish BA (or at least the franchise) still had these.


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Overview


One for William! (GlobalFlyer)



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I never knew this one was here.



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Replica of the Hubble telescope.


After an enjoyable couple of hours, I headed out in the direction of the capital building and back towards Crystal City.


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Once back at Crystal City I headed off in the direction of DCA. I had done a bit of research before hand and saw there was a park that could be within walking distance at the end of the runway. It was a 20 minute or so walk, but worth it. Wish I’d had a drink with me though!


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After this I headed off to get some dinner at Buffalo Wild Wings – fast becoming a new favorite of mine, and then back to the hotel for the evening.

The next day, I took a walk down to the long bridge park and watched a few of the departures from DCA.


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This was about as close as I would get to the Pentagon


Once I was done I headed over to the pentagon city mall to grab a bite to eat and had a bit of a wonder. Oh and having a very attractive young lady trying to sell me some moisturizer for just $150. As a bonus she said she would throw her phone number and email in, but unfortunately for her I wasn’t born yesterday.



After this, I jumped on the Metro to the Arlington cemetery and had a relaxing walk around for the next couple of hours.


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And on that note, I'll leave this part of the report. Look out for part 3 that will cover a frustrating experience at DCA and my flight over to Chicago that almost didn’t happen – for me at least.


Previous trip reports

USA 2013 Pt 1: The Beginning BA LHR-ORY (by jwhite9185 Apr 20 2013 in Trip Reports)
Comparing The Competition: BA/VS Inaugural MAN-LHR (by jwhite9185 Mar 31 2013 in Trip Reports)
Taking TAP To Portugal: LGW-OPO-LIS-LHR Feb. 2013 (by jwhite9185 Mar 10 2013 in Trip Reports)
Poland On The Dream)liner - LOT LHR-WAW-LHR In C/Y (by jwhite9185 Jan 1 2013 in Trip Reports)
A Speedbird & Titan 767 – LHR-LCA-LHR In C…ish (by jwhite9185 Feb 1 2013 in Trip Reports)
British Airways LGW-AGP-LCY 737/E190 Nov. 2012 (by jwhite9185 Dec 1 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part 2: 5 Flights 3 Airlines MXP-ZRH-DUS-LHR LX/LH (by jwhite9185 Nov 14 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part 1: 5 Flights 3 Airlines LHR-BRU-MXP In Theory (by jwhite9185 Oct 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Cancellations, Widebodies And Iberia LHR-MAD-LHR (by jwhite9185 Oct 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
Virgin Atlantic's New A330 LHR-JFK-LHR (by jwhite9185 Sep 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Night In Amsterdam - KLM F70/738 LHR-AMS-LHR (by jwhite9185 Aug 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
Trying Out Flybe - LGW-BHD-GLA-BHD-LGW (by jwhite9185 Jul 11 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Day Trip To MAN (by jwhite9185 Jun 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Nice, Monaco And The Great British Lounge With BMI (by jwhite9185 May 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
EI237/182 LGW-DUB-LHR And 2 Lounges (by jwhite9185 Apr 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
LGW-FRA-BRU-LHR With LH And SN (by jwhite9185 Mar 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
BA906/8735 LHR-FRA-LCY (by jwhite9185 Mar 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
VS015/016 LGW-MCO-LGW June 2010 (by jwhite9185 Jan 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
VS006 MIA-LHR A340-642 June 2008 (by jwhite9185 Feb 10 2012 in Trip Reports)
Virgin Atlantic 747 To BGI - October 2007 (by jwhite9185 Aug 3 2012 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14028 times:

Hi J, great report! Seems like WT+ is a great product, sure seems like a good Economy plus experience. Love the pictures of Washington as well, looks like you enjoyed yourself there. I was pleasently surprised by how much I enjoyed Washington when I visited two years ago. Looking forward to the next parts!

User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5153 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13734 times:

Hi, J.,

really well done pictures and also story.
Looks like a positive experience on BA this time. And it seems Washington is also worth a visit to me.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 504 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13680 times:

Hi,

Great Report about WTP. Seems like a great way to fly, although they could serve the drinks in real glasses IMO.
Also stunning pictures from Washington!

Thanks a lot for sharing.
Cheers,
Johannes


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1925 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13228 times:
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Great report, and stunning photos from Washington, DC! I was there last year visiting - and we loved it! What a great place.

Thanks for sharing - BA Y+ looks pretty good!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1298 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13161 times:

Hey,

Thx for another interesting report from your US trip. BA Y+ service looks very good. Y cabin is so small for a 747, takes away all the fun of been able to talk a lot during the flight if you are in Y. Meal looked very nice for Y+.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Oh and having a very attractive young lady trying to sell me some moisturizer for just $150. As a bonus she said she would throw her phone number and email in, but unfortunately for her I wasn’t born yesterday.

I Bet she was an Israeli!

I was in DC in 2001, I must say that I do not remember this city to be that attractive, maybe I should give it another chance.

Thx for shearing,
Jonathan



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13071 times:

Great report - love your photo-tour around DC with aircraft flying overhead in-between the more traditional sights!

I always liked the configuration of the BA 747 fleet with each zone sectioned off into individual cabins - of course, the last time I flew BA was before WT+ existed...

My in-laws are in DC: next time I'll have to twist some arms to see more places of interest - the Udvar-Hazy at Dulles, perhaps!



Next up: LAX-LHR NZ002 Y SkyCouch! LHR-LAX NZ001 Y
User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 12723 times:

Thanks so much for taking the time to write this!

I was very interested to see what improvements BA have made to WTP. It now looks like a very good product, they just need the glass of bubbly on boarding to finish it off! (do VS do that?)

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
This was a much better option than experienced with VS last year, as I'm not a fan of eating lunch at 11am!

It's good to see that BA have figured this one out! On my flight to MIA about 15 months ago they served lunch at 10:30 LHR time. Having just had breakfast at T5 Starbucks I wasn't hungry, and ate very little, but was RAVENOUS by the time they brought the sandwiches around 8 hours later!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Doubles were dished out without asking.

That's great to see  

And thanks for the photos of Washington! I love that city.

Regards,
Alex



Worked Hard, Flew Right
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 12300 times:

Wow, quite a few comments already.

Robert,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 3):
Hi J, great report!

Thanks,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 3):
Seems like WT+ is a great product, sure seems like a good Economy plus experience.

It was pretty good, although tough to try and choose a clear winner between BA and VS.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 3):
I was pleasently surprised by how much I enjoyed Washington

Same here!

Markus,

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
really well done pictures and also story.

Thank you!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Looks like a positive experience on BA this time.

It was, although having now flown Emirates, that experience has now been slightly tainted!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
And it seems Washington is also worth a visit to me.

I'd recommend it.

Johannes,

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 5):
Seems like a great way to fly, although they could serve the drinks in real glasses

True, although to be honest I didn't even realise.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 5):
Also stunning pictures from Washington!

Thanks,

767747

Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
Great report, and stunning photos from Washington, DC!

Thank you,

Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
BA Y+ looks pretty good!

Yeah it wasn't too bad actually. As mentioned previously, I've since flown Emirates and my impression of BA has been tainted slightly!

EL-AL

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
Thx for another interesting report from your US trip.

No problem,

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
Y cabin is so small for a 747

You should see the 777 I flew home on!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
Meal looked very nice for Y+.

Very good indeed - as mentioned, first time I had given an empty tray back I think!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
I Bet she was an Israeli!

Funnily enough, she was!!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
I must say that I do not remember this city to be that attractive, maybe I should give it another chance.

I'd say so.

LHRBFSTrident,

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 8):
Great report

Thanks,

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 8):
love your photo-tour around DC with aircraft flying overhead in-between the more traditional sights!

As I had my camera out anyway, seemed a waste not to grab a few shots as they were flying over.

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 8):
I always liked the configuration of the BA 747 fleet with each zone sectioned off into individual cabins

Would have been better to fly on the config where WTP is between Club and First though - as it was scheduled to be right up until a week before departure.

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 8):
My in-laws are in DC: next time I'll have to twist some arms to see more places of interest

Yeah, I'd recommend a visit there. Lots to see and do.

RyanairGuru,

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):
Thanks so much for taking the time to write this!

Thats no problem,

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):
I was very interested to see what improvements BA have made to WTP.

Look out for part 5 then to see the very latest product...

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):
It now looks like a very good product, they just need the glass of bubbly on boarding to finish it off! (do VS do that?)

Yes, VS dish out OJ, water and faux champagne during boarding.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):
It's good to see that BA have figured this one out! On my flight to MIA about 15 months ago they served lunch at 10:30 LHR time. Having just had breakfast at T5 Starbucks I wasn't hungry, and ate very little, but was RAVENOUS by the time they brought the sandwiches around 8 hours later!

Strange why they feel the need to dish up lunch so early.



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Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 11993 times:
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Hi James,

Fantastic part 2 of your trip to the US with many nice pictures included!
BA WTP looks quite nice here, the food looks delicious.
Great pictures of Washington, one of my favorite cities in the US  
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
That’ll explain why this place is deserted!

Didn't know AA had so many flights out of CDG!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
This one followed us pretty much all the way – despite being on tow.

What a beautiful livery  
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
and a cup of tea

No coffee fan?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
I love how a little bit of status makes people so much nicer!

Very true!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
however the IFE boxes were awkwardly placed.

Don't you just hate that?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
We had company over Ireland.

There was probably much more company around 
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Upon checking in, I was informed that I'd been upgraded to a suite and given two free cookies! Result!

Nice, congrats! Dont you just live hotels in the US, nice and big!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
watched some awful American TV

Haha, what did you watch?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
The following morning, I headed out to see what Washington had to offer. Quite a bit actually – very nice city and everything was within a reasonable walking distance.

Couldn't agree with you more!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
I had done a bit of research before hand and saw there was a park that could be within walking distance at the end of the runway. It was a 20 minute or so walk, but worth it. Wish I’d had a drink with me
though!

Very nice spotting pictures! Always wanted to head to that spotting place but never got too it (yet)

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Oh and having a very attractive young lady trying to sell me some moisturizer for just $150. As a bonus she said she would throw her phone number and email in, but unfortunately for her I wasn’t born yesterday.

Oh come on, its just $150 :P

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to part 3!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11717 times:

Hi James,

great report with many nice pictures from Washington! The weather was beautiful. BA's product looks decent, too.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Quite a tasty salami and cheese roll and a cup of tea. I didn't actually ask for the OJ, but was handed it anyway. Nice and pro-active there.

I can only wonder about BA's catering concept...sandwiches on such short flights, chocolate bars on longer ones, e.g. MUC-LHR.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
During boarding, the menus were handed out. Neither option really jumped out at me.

Not bad at all!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
As I'd previously mentioned, neither option really jumped out at me, but I decided on the beef. It was very good actually, along with the starter and desert. In fact I'm pretty sure this was one of the only occasions I'd given a tray back with nothing left on it – including the cutlery!! I had a sneak peak at my seatmate’s fish, and although it smelled decent enough I'd didn’t look as appealing. I was led to believe that Word Traveller Plus has the same meal service as Club World, however the trolleys were dragged from the back of the cabin and carried on into World Traveller (economy) once we had been served. Although the food and presentation did seem of a high-ish quality. Certainly higher than what I’d expect of your standard economy meal service anyway.

Wow, that's a nice meal!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
With around 90 minutes of the flight remaining, afternoon tea was served. Very good also.

These sandwiches look good, too.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Wrong!

Yes, so wrong! Can't they ask us before putting things on display?  


PH



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26905 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week ago) and read 11620 times:

Hey James  

Nice report. BA WTP look good. Certainly a nice upgrade from WT . Meals ok no complaints there. Afternoon tea , no scones? Shame as I used to like that. I think its only for Prem Classes now C/F .

Nice pics of US.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11353 times:

Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Fantastic part 2 of your trip to the US with many nice pictures included!

Thanks,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
BA WTP looks quite nice here, the food looks delicious.

It really was good - probably tastier than what I had on EK last week - although nowhere near the quantity.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
What a beautiful livery

Have to say I'm in agreement.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
No coffee fan?

I'm very fussy when it comes to coffee, where as you can never go far wrong with tea... or so I thought. Thats a story for another time though.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Don't you just hate that?

Mad how some can get it right yet others get it wrong. Yet they use the same system pretty much.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
There was probably much more company around

True, but not often you see it.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Dont you just live hotels in the US, nice and big!

In general yes, although the one I had in NYC last year wasn't that big.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Haha, what did you watch?

Cant remember now. It was more background noise really as I spent most of the evening chatting to a friend online!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Always wanted to head to that spotting place but never got too it (yet)

Pretty easy to get to, although a bit of a walk.

PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
great report with many nice pictures from Washington!

Thanks,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
The weather was beautiful.

Looked good, but not overly warm.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
I can only wonder about BA's catering concept...sandwiches on such short flights, chocolate bars on longer ones, e.g. MUC-LHR.

I think all flights pre 9 AM get a breakfast service. I was given something similar on my flight to FRA last year, yet on the return I had the birdseed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Wow, that's a nice meal!

I was surprised actually. As I mentioned neither option really excited me but the beef was very good.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
These sandwiches look good, too.

They were.

Philip,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Nice report.

Cheers!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
BA WTP look good. Certainly a nice upgrade from WT .

Yeah, although I couldn't help compare them to VS after many years of flying with them. Cant comment on BA WT, as I mentioned it has been 16 years since my last longhaul BA flights.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Afternoon tea , no scones?

Nope. Even got them in Y on EK last week.



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11325 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 7):
I was in DC in 2001, I must say that I do not remember this city to be that attractive, maybe I should give it another chance.

A lot has changed since 2001--the city has gotten a lot more gentrified. I've been here for almost three years, and it is amazing how much new development there is.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):

The following morning, I headed out to see what Washington had to offer. Quite a bit actually – very nice city and everything was within a reasonable walking distance


There are also some gorgeous residential neighborhoods that are worth walking around and exploring within the city itself.


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11199 times:

Quoting us330 (Reply 15):
There are also some gorgeous residential neighborhoods that are worth walking around and exploring within the city itself.

I did see there was a bit more slightly out of town before I left, but with only 2 days didn't really have much time to see the less touristy parts.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6545 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10856 times:

Hi James !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

The meal on BA looks really, really good! Makes me hungry and I just ate.... 

Great pictures from Washington as well. Lots of things to see there and especially at the Air & Space Museum. Nice to see the original Wright Flyer and also the Boeing 247 from United Air Lines.

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlineTheAviator380 From UK - England, joined Feb 2013, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10610 times:

Food on Y+ does look good but cabin, seating and IFE is so so average for BA. Correct me if I am wrong, Y+ ticket is usually appreciably high than Y class and comparatively service looks okish to me. When will BA will balance both, that day I will like their product.

Good pictures !! I am sure you had fantastic time...cheers.


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10315 times:

Hi Lars,

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

No problem,

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
The meal on BA looks really, really good!

It was very good - quality wise it was one of the best I've had I think, however quantity was lacking slightly. Thats just how it seems to be trans atlantic these days though.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Lots of things to see there and especially at the Air & Space Museum.

Well worth a visit, I really enjoyed it.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Nice to see the original Wright Flyer

I had no idea thats where it was, so big surprise to see it there.

The Aviator380,

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 18):
Food on Y+ does look good but cabin, seating and IFE is so so average for BA.

Yeah the old Y+ cabin on the 744 was a bit average really, however I got one of the 772's with the refreshed cabin and ife on the way back (coming up in part 5), and that was a huge improvement. BA need to roll this out pretty quickly to stay in the game.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 18):
Correct me if I am wrong, Y+ ticket is usually appreciably high than Y class and comparatively service looks okish to me.

It would have been pretty high if I had started the journey from LHR - as I started from CDG though, it was only around £100 more which was better value. Same can be said for VS though.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 18):
Good pictures !!

Thanks,

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 18):
I am sure you had fantastic time...cheers.

Washington is the part I look back on that trip and have the best memories from!



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9792 times:

Hello James

Thanks for sharing your WTP report, they look to have a nice product! Especially the catering is superb, knowing that this is what Y gets! The only downside is that the seats look well used compared to VS.

Nice Washington pics as well!

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2452 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9777 times:

Hello James,

What a superb report! Washington looks like a great place to visit! I really like how you show us around the city sights.  


Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
There were a few problems upon checking in - first off, they said my API hadn't been completed - which it had,

Odd! I thought that as Executive Club member, once you have updated your API, it would be automatically retained with every booking.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
and then when presenting my visa card for verification, they said this wasn't the card used for payment... Yeah because the card I had used for payment had expired.

Hmm, should we bring along the expired card then just for the sake of verification?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Either way, the legroom in this row was very good –

34 inch pitch is just awesome!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Quite a tasty salami and cheese roll and a cup of tea. I didn't actually ask for the OJ, but was handed it anyway.

Nice! Good to know BA serves something more substantial during breakfast time!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 1):
Neither option really jumped out at me.

Well, the classic dish would be something for me!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 1):
I was led to believe that Word Traveller Plus has the same meal service as Club World,

I can imagine it! Just look at the meal presentation! What a different crockery to the World Traveller ones!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 1):
The final two hours of the flight were spent listening to music

Jolly! Which music does BA have on offer?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):
One of the locals

How cute!


Next week I will be on my first TATL flight ever. Thank you for sharing the experience and getting me in the mood!  


Best wishes,
Suryo  



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9667 times:

Hi Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
Thanks for sharing your WTP report

No problem,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
they look to have a nice product!

Yeah, but I don't think this particular one was quite enough to sway me away from VS. The updated product on the other hand...

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
Especially the catering is superb

It was very good

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
The only downside is that the seats look well used compared to VS.

Well yeah, but in no worse state than the ones fitted to the VS LGW fleet until recently.

Suryo,

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
What a superb report!

Thank you!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Washington looks like a great place to visit!

Highly recommended from me - a very nice city.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
I really like how you show us around the city sights.

Well it is a trip report after all, rather than just a flight report!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Odd! I thought that as Executive Club member, once you have updated your API, it would be automatically retained with every booking.

It usually is - not sure what the issue was here.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Hmm, should we bring along the expired card then just for the sake of verification?

Who knows! Again, this was the first time I've been asked to show my payment card. Although have experienced it a couple of times since.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
34 inch pitch is just awesome!

Seemed even more than that to me!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Nice! Good to know BA serves something more substantial during breakfast time!

Yeah, odd how they cant serve a sandwich throughout the day though.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
I can imagine it! Just look at the meal presentation! What a different crockery to the World Traveller ones!

Thats what confused me slightly. If it was truly a Club World meal, then surely it would have come forward from the Club World cabin, rather than dragged back from World Traveller?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Which music does BA have on offer?

No idea! Provided my own.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Next week I will be on my first TATL flight ever.

Much how I felt when I went to Bangkok the other week then!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Thank you for sharing the experience and getting me in the mood!

No problem!



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1678 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 9370 times:
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Hi James,

Good to follow this report on your trip accross the big blue. A fairly standard (= good) BA experience it seems! Great destination pics as well, it seems Washington in an underestimated city?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
‘YL meant I would be on one of the more recent additions to the BA fleet having joined just a few days over 22 months ago.

Did it still have the 'new plane smell'  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
He also mentioned we would have to be de iced - a new experience for me!

Deicing is quite cool indeed, I also like it. I guess for our Nordic friends it is more of a common practice that a joy. Let alone a burden if you need to have your connection!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Not often you get two windows in economy on an A32X!

I'd call that one-and-a-half  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
I love how a little bit of status makes people so much nicer!

It shouldn't be like that but unfortunately it is...

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Now I'm not totally sure of the logic of making transfer passengers clear security again

Isn't that the case in almost every UK airport? Traveling intra-Schengen is really good in that aspect!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
including the cutlery!!

You naughty man!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Pretty small economy cabin

Is that it, only 1 section of Y?

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 9267 times:

Hi Nils,

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
A fairly standard (= good) BA experience it seems!

Pretty much

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Great destination pics as well, it seems Washington in an underestimated city?

Thanks, and I was impressed with the place.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Did it still have the 'new plane smell'

No it didn't!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Deicing is quite cool indeed, I also like it.

Was quite interesting to see.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Let alone a burden if you need to have your connection!

True! I didn't have a very tight connection to make, although I was mindful of the time. Although with 2x more flights to Washington that day on BA alone, no doubt I would have got there if I'd missed the connection.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
It shouldn't be like that but unfortunately it is...

Yeah, although I did get similar treatment when I flew to AGP last year, however I was in Club in that occasion.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Isn't that the case in almost every UK airport?

Not sure - If you transfer between terminals 1,3 and 5 then theres no extra security check. Pretty sure if you go from T5- T3, you get dumped at gate 24 which is then straight up into the lounge pretty much.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Is that it, only 1 section of Y?

Yeah, not too big. Even smaller on the 777.



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7568 posts, RR: 43
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8915 times:

Wow James! Awesome report! I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks a lot for taking the time to write it and for sharing your incredible pictures.


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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8787 times:

EddieDude,

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 25):
Wow James! Awesome report! I enjoyed it a lot.

Thank you very much,

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 25):
Thanks a lot for taking the time to write it and for sharing your incredible pictures.

No Problem!



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7853 times:

Great report, thanks for sharing. The food really looked nice!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):

I was fine at that point, but then it was up to security. Now I'm not totally sure of the logic of making transfer passengers clear security again, but it was very slow, despite not being very busy. Very poor planning. Having spoken to my auntie who spent many years working for BAA over at T4 a week or so later, she said it was the same deal there too. Yet pretty much every other place I’ve transferred at I could just go straight to my next gate. I’m led to believe that even coming from another terminal at LHR avoids this extra security check. Very strange.

I didn't transited at LHR a lot, but i ALWAYS had to reclear security, terminal change or not. In Schengen it's similar. If you arrive from a Schengen flight you do not reclear security (or very seldom, because the airport has a bad layout), but if you arrive from a nonschengen you usually do, depends from the country you're coming in, too. Today I learnt that CPH had gates for non Schengen "safe country" arrivals, which have similar security standards as Schengen does, and that they do not need to reclear security, howvever some airports can only seperate Schengen from Non-Schengen arrivals, and not have an additional "Safe Origin non Schengen arrival". Heck, in Rome after arriving from BEY as an ARRIVING passenger without any connection we were all bussed to a special entry and had to clear security upon entering the terminal building as arriving passengers, however coming from BEY this may make sense...


User currently offlineGenius12 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 197 posts, RR: 2
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7672 times:

Nice report!

Regarding the meal service in WTP, the main mean service features a choice of main course from the Club World selection, and presented as such. You also get the CW metal cutlery and napkin. CW glasses are also offered for wine, as opposed to plastic glasses.

However, the rest of the main course (starter, bread, dessert) is the standard WT offering, including the plastic cups/glasses.

The second meal service is standard WT.


User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7392 times:

Frederic,

Quoting reifel (Reply 27):
Great report, thanks for sharing.

Thanks, no problem!

Quoting reifel (Reply 27):
The food really looked nice!

It was very good.

Quoting reifel (Reply 27):
I didn't transited at LHR a lot, but i ALWAYS had to reclear security, terminal change or not. In Schengen it's similar. If you arrive from a Schengen flight you do not reclear security (or very seldom, because the airport has a bad layout), but if you arrive from a nonschengen you usually do, depends from the country you're coming in, too. Today I learnt that CPH had gates for non Schengen "safe country" arrivals, which have similar security standards as Schengen does, and that they do not need to reclear security, howvever some airports can only seperate Schengen from Non-Schengen arrivals, and not have an additional "Safe Origin non Schengen arrival". Heck, in Rome after arriving from BEY as an ARRIVING passenger without any connection we were all bussed to a special entry and had to clear security upon entering the terminal building as arriving passengers, however coming from BEY this may make sense...

Ahh right. I always thought once you were airside, that was that. Come to think of it I seem to remember having to clear security at FRA when I transferred there actually.

Genius12,

Quoting Genius12 (Reply 28):
Nice report!

Thanks,

Quoting Genius12 (Reply 28):
Regarding the meal service in WTP, the main mean service features a choice of main course from the Club World selection, and presented as such. You also get the CW metal cutlery and napkin. CW glasses are also offered for wine, as opposed to plastic glasses.

However, the rest of the main course (starter, bread, dessert) is the standard WT offering, including the plastic cups/glasses.

The second meal service is standard WT.

Ah right, so a bit of a mix of both then. Makes sense as the Main seemed better quality than economy, but the rest seemed poor compared to Club.



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User currently onlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6500 times:
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Hi James,

Super read and pictures, excellent!! - Loved the pictures and text from Washington, a city I'd love to visit, only ever changed planes there @ IAD.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
A few days before departure, the seat map for the first sector opened right up and I managed to bag seat 5A, therefore having the middle seat free.

- Indeed, love a free middle seat!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
However a day later I was unexpectedly moved back to 7A, and the middle seat was no longer blocked, despite being the first row behind Club.

- Bummer, these things do happen from time to time.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
That’ll explain why this place is deserted!

- Still, I'm sure I've been in T5 at that time of day and things are open!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
This aircraft didn't seem to have any drop down screens, so no way of tracking our progress

- Suspect the crew never turned them on.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
he entertainment system was switched in from boarding, a new experience for me

- Yes, new CAA approval.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
During boarding, the menus were handed out. Neither option really jumped out at me.

- Hmm, like the look of the beef option myself........

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
I was led to believe that Word Traveller Plus has the same meal service as Club World, however the trolleys were dragged from the back of the cabin and carried on into World Traveller (economy) once we had been served. Although the food and presentation did seem of a high-ish quality. Certainly higher than what I’d expect of your standard economy meal service anyway.

- Indeed, the main meal service has Club World main course, all other catering is Y class.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Immigration took around 30 minutes - not brilliant but still better than JFK by a long way.

- You should try MIA or PHL one day, 30 minutes is good!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6242 times:

Hi Mark,

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Super read and pictures, excellent!!

Thanks,

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Loved the pictures and text from Washington, a city I'd love to visit

Comes highly recommended from me - enjoyed my time there.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Indeed, love a free middle seat!

Who doesn't!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Bummer, these things do happen from time to time.

Yeah, guessing it was a pretty full flight in Club, therefore needed the extra rows at short notice. Still not seen the row behind Club with all 3 seats taken before though?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Still, I'm sure I've been in T5 at that time of day and things are open!

It was an odd situation - the only reason the shutters were up on the duty free was to let people pass from security to the terminal!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Yes, new CAA approval.

I did read that a few weeks after - VS also do the same now.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
Hmm, like the look of the beef option myself........

It was very good - glad I chose that.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
You should try MIA or PHL one day, 30 minutes is good!

Managed to get from plane to curbside in 15 mins on one occasion at MIA - and we both had baggage to collect too! Same at MCO - although only on the one occasion!



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User currently onlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6171 times:
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Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 30):
You should try MIA or PHL one day, 30 minutes is good!

Managed to get from plane to curbside in 15 mins on one occasion at MIA - and we both had baggage to collect too!

- Bugger that's good, always found MIA to be a disaster!



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