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11 Hours To Barra  
User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

Hello fellow Anet'ters. Hope you're all well. It’s been a while since I’ve written a report so here goes...

Background for this trip.

Finally the much awaited Barra – landing in the beach trip arrives with gusto and the thought of three days away from work is the icing in the cake. We had planned for this trip way back in January and were looking forward to breaking the fast paced life in London.

The below trip report comprises of the entire trip – 2 BA flights LGW-GLA-LHR and 2 FlyBe flights from GLA-BRR-GLA

Gcmap route map - thanks once again the excellent gcmap, just love It.!




1. British Airways BA: LGW (Terminal North) - GLA
BA 2968
Flight reg: G-DOCH
Boeing 737-436
Seat 4C
Load : 90%
Departure time 21:15 (21:05)
Arrival 22:30 (22:20)
03rd May 2013


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Already checked in the day before, exactly 24 hours before departure at 21:15 GMT. I could see that the plane was a 737 domestic config one. The first 6 rows had a 2-3 layout, hence chose 4C and D – both aisle seats, but hoping it may be slightly wider than the normal 3-3 layout. Not sure as I’ve not been on a UK domestic BA service. So let’s see what happens tomorrow.

As a side note, my other flight from GLABRR, on FlyBe, I had pre-selected seats 1A and 2A so that we both get window seats and can view the landing at Barra. But upon check in see that my seat has been changed to 7A! Grr.! That too after paying extra for the seat selection. Need to speak to them first thing tomorrow morning to have this issue resolved.

Fantastic- next day, called up FlyBe, they not only amended my current booking to my previous booked seats, since they moved my seats without informing me, the lady even pre-assigned my return flight seats to my preferred choice- free of charge.! Kudos to FlyBe so far.

Next step online check in on FlyBe, our seats changed again! From 1A and 2A to 2A and 3A. Nevertheless, Barra, here we come!

It was a quick trip from home to the airport. A train, tram and another train hop away. At the airport, inside an hour despite a small fire scares at Gatwick.

The north terminal was unusually quiet for a bank holiday weekend. Check in was within few seconds. The self check in working brilliantly. Past the security and into cafe rouge for a quick dinner with plenty of time to spare.

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Gate 55F was displayed at 20:35 and boarding commenced soon after. The flight was full, 100 % load. The flight was quickly loaded for a full load and we were ready to taxi by 21:10, 5 minutes before schedule.

The seats. Great for a domestic service. Especially the front 6 rows that are a 2-3 arrangement. We were in row 4. Although Mrs VR wasn't a fan of sitting in the aisle seat. I personally enjoyed the extra space.

The plane itself was one of the ancient 737-436 that BA use at Gatwick, but as always very well maintained, neat and tidy seats and the aircraft didn't look like a 22 year old bird. Well done BA. One thing funny was Aircraft registration was a pencil scribbled mark on the door. !  

The pilot seemed to be in a hurry and would've put Michael Schumacher to shame at the speed at which we hit the run way and took off. We were airborne at 21:17. Exactly 7 minutes after embarking from the gates! Never seen a quicker exit. A true Italian job!

G-DOCH - To GLA
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The speed just didn't stop there. It followed across the in-flight service too. The 4 cabin crew on board were swiftly parading down the galley with the drinks and snacks cart.

The in-flight magazine proved to be n excellent read for the hour long flight. Some great articles and they also had a special plane spotter section on the BA A380. !

A tiger beer and excellent sea salt crisp later, we landed at GLA at exactly 22:20, 10 minutes behind schedule

An excellent way to reach Glasgow from London. Highly recommend it. Smooth, hassle free, efficient way to travel. Kudos to BA for a flawless service.

Baggage was received within 10 minutes and was out and into our hotel for the night in 5 min - the holiday inn just adjacent to the international arrival. A quick hop, step and a jump and lovely welcome from the reception and glad to know that we got upgraded to an executive suite.

Rooms very good and ideal for an overnight at GLA. Next stop Barra.!

Holiday Inn GLA Airport
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With Compliments at GLA Holiday Inn
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GLA

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2. FlyBe BE: GLA - BRR
BE 6851
Flight Reg : supposed to be G-BVVK
Rescheduled service via Coach and Ferry
De Havilland Canada DHC-6-310 Twin Otter
Seat: free seating
Load: nearly empty
Departure: 08:50 (12:00)
Arrival 10:05 (20:30)
04th may 2013


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Next day woke up on time and reached the airport with and hour and half to spare only to be greeted with travellers worst nightmare - Barra: flight cancelled!!! No, this cannot be happening. But within 5 minutes the disaster set on me. The aircraft had suffered some fuel leak and both flights to Barra for the day had been cancelled. Our option was a 3 hour coach trip to Oban followed by a 5 hour ferry ride to Barra.

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A flight to Benbeculla was an option but FlyBe said they took no responsibility after Benbeculla. Didn't want to risk it and hence decided to stick with FlyBe option. Which meant a wait of around 3 hours for the coach.

Headed back to holiday inn to find out that they were willing to give us our room for the next 2 hours. Yaay to holiday inn! Watched a couple of episodes of everybody loves Raymond and then headed to the FlyBE counter.

We were given a £16 voucher for light refreshments which was well used at Starbucks and the local Tesco express. Reached the customer service counter at 11:00 and they were few other passengers already waiting at the desk. We were finally told to go over to the waiting coach outside. We departed GLA at around 12:00 noon. The coach journey was comfortable and didn’t have any issues, reaching the Oban ferry terminal by 3:00 PM.

Coach to Oban
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Having reached the terminal we were told that we would have to buy the tickets on our own and would be reimbursed at a later date. I shall update this thread as and when I hear anything back from FlyBE. So far all I have heard is that they will contact me soon.

Tickets bought, we boarded the MV Clansman Ferry at 16:30 for a 16:40 departure. Departure was on time and it was going to be 5 hours before we reached CastleBay, Barra.

Ferry to Barra
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At first glance, the Ferry looked well equipped for the 5 hour ride – good sized restaurant, a bar and souvenir shop, children’s play area, pets area, couple of TV’s with different channels on them and good seating areas.

The views are apparently very good on this route with the Isle of Mull on the Port side and Fort Williams on the Port. But due to poor weather, we could hardly see anything beyond a few 100 meters. It was a very cloudy and windy evening with intermittent rains.

The sea started getting choppy as we approached the sea of Herbedies. 5 hours after a couple of beers (great local beers on board), some food, and rolling about in the cabin we finally reached our destination – some 11 hours after our scheduled arrival!

But nevertheless our car hire was at the port, waiting for us (Barra Car hire - Excellent service), and we were up beat of our trip.

We were warmly welcomed by our hosts at NorthBay House. A great place to stay at the Island. The rest of Sunday was spent lazily driving around the island and trekking a bit around Vatersey. A great little island with loads of outdoor activities. Bike hires, car hires, good accommodation and food. Great for a weekend break.

Some pictures of the island below.

Sights and sounds of Barra
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3. FlyBe BE: BRR - GLA
BE 6852
Flight Reg : supposed to be G-BVVK
Rescheduled service via Ferry coach and Flight [url= http://www.airframes.org/reg/glgnn] G-LGNN [/url]
Saab-Scania 340B
Seat: 11C
Load: 14 out of 34 passengers
Departure: 10:25 (13:30)
Arrival 11:30 (14:30)
06th may 2013


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The following morning, after a sumptuous breakfast, made our way to the airport, where we dropped the car off (great service one way pick and drop for no extra charge!).

Quite excited when the lady behind the check in counter handed in our boarding passes. She did warn that the flight was delayed by a bit. Nevertheless, not wanting to miss this opportunity of filming the plane land on the beach headed right out the car park as soon as we checked in.

Barra Airport:
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Check in counter at Barra Airport
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20 minutes turned to an hour, when we were finally hit by the bad news – flight cancelled! Again! The gods of Barra were not very happy with us being there it looked like.

There was no 5 hour ferry this time around, as they asked to board one of the airport vans and dropped us off to the nearest ferry.

40 minutes in the ferry later we were at the next island – Benbeculla. An hour in the coach later we were outside Benbeculla airport, ready to board the 13:30 chartered flight to Glasgow. It looks like they had boarded the Barra passengers from Glasgow in it and we returned back on that aircraft.

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Nevertheless a new aircraft for me to try our, the Saab 340. Benbeculla airport is once again a really small airport. But they did have a proper security check with your shoes and belts off!

The Saab that we were flying seemed to have an interesting history as per airframes.org. It was for a period of time serving Wells Fargo Bank. And another interesting point for me was that this was the smallest aircraft I was flying, the previous smallest one being a South African AirLink Avro RJ85

BE to GLA - Saab 340
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View over Benbecula
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There were snacks and drinks served on this short hop flight and we landed into Glasgow in little less than an hour.

G-BVVK - supposedly our flight from BRR
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While waling towards baggage collection we could see the twin otter that was supposed to have flown us in from Barra, but not to be  

Baggage's arrived very quickly; in fact ours was the first two to arrive amongst 15 other baggages.

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Next stop BA check in desks.

4. British Airways BA: GLA - LHR
BE 1489
Flight Reg: [url= http://www.airframes.org/reg/gbnwz]G-BNWZ[/url]
Boeing 767-336ER
Seat: 20E
Load: 100%
Departure: 16:20(16:15)
Arrival 17:30 (17:30)
06th may 2013


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It was a short hop to the BA check in. Used the check in machines and noticed that the 767 was full. Got two adjacent seats, but not to our liking, but hey, it’s a one hour hop, so not a problem at all.

Baggage’s dropped, and then a quick jaunt to the Lounge. It was serviced by Servisair. Nothing noteworthy, in a good way maybe. Good views and some nibbles to eat. Loads of booze though... So +1 from my side on that aspect. 

plane spotting at GLA
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GLA Lounge
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Boarding commenced at exactly 16:00 and had already started by the time we had reached the check in area. Boarding commenced the usual way – parents with children, gold silver members, last rows first and then the front rows. Orderly and timely.

G-BNWZ
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Once on board it was a quick turnaround. We were off within a few minutes after the doors were shut.

The aircraft looked like it had a refurbished. It looked brand new. Excellent seats and great for a short hop. On board service was also great. A Normal BA service then – efficient and not over done. Snacks and drinks on this flight.

Funny incident during landing – a bunch of team USA rugby players on board and were not used to ‘Not listening to music’ during landing and take off and found it amusing that they were asked to remove their headphones during landing and take off.

All in all, a good flight into Heathrow. Baggage’s arrived in 10 minutes and into Heathrow express within 20 minutes of landing.

Hope you enjoyed reading this. We did have a good trip on the whole, but the entire purpose of this trip was never met, unfortunately. hopefully sometime in the neat future..

Until next time, adios, and happy flying..  Previous trip reports:

LHR - KWI - BA 747 - Part 1 - Middle East - China
Part 5 : PVG-LHR - BA - Economy - B777
Part 2:KWI-DXB - FlyDubai - Economy - B737
Part 4A&B - SHA-SJW-SHA - FM : Eco : B737
Part 3A&B : DXB-HKG-PVG: CX & KA :Eco: A333
Morocco Trip - LGW-RAK-TNG-LHR - EasyJet & Iberia
Dusseldorf Calling - BA & EZY - Club/Eco - A321


Update from FlyBe:

After few email and phone conversations with a representative directly from LoganAir, they have now agreed to refund the entire amount for the GLA-BRR-GLA sector, including the ferry costs and any costs incurred on the ferry. +1 for LoganAir. Very good and prompt reply from them each time I contacted them


 

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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

Excellent trip report! I've always been fascinated by Barra and it's runway that is open and closed with the tides! Too bad Loganair didn't pan out on the both times you tried to fly to/from there!

Actually, a five hour ferry and a coach seems like a fitting way to reach some of the most remote parts of England. It probably added considerably to the island's magic and mystique. I had a similar experience going to MVY. Flying was fun since you're on a small turboprop, but there's nothing quite like arriving at some remote outpost of humanity after spending some considerable time on a boat.

The people there seem friendly and the island itself looks absolutely fascinating!

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
And another interesting point for me was that this was the smallest aircraft I was flying, the previous smallest one being a South African AirLink Avro RJ85

Incredible! Well over 65% of my flights here in the USA are on 50 (or fewer) seat American Eagle regional jets!

I've always wanted to try the BA 767 before those go the way of the 757. I think its need they use them on such a short hop to GLA. Maybe a route I will put on my wishlist for the future...

Again, excellent report - thanks for sharing and keep writing!


User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Great report - my heart sank too when I saw the photo of the FIDS screen at GLA: and I was hoping it wouldn't affect your return - but alas!

My other half is not at all outdoorsy - how on earth to cajole into going to Barra   



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User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

Thanks mhkansan and LHRBSTrident

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 2):
and I was hoping it wouldn't affect your return - but alas!

Ah, well, hopefully next time then  
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 2):
how on earth to cajole into going to Barra

the only beach landing in the world, show some YouTube videos, should do the trick. Or else just book the tickets and surprisetrick her into going, like how did.. :P

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):
Actually, a five hour ferry and a coach seems like a fitting way to reach some of the most remote parts of England

Agree, but given a choice between ferry and beach landing...hmm..tough one. Although the ferry ride was interesting, I think I shall still take the beach landing any day. 
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):
I've always wanted to try the BA 767

The refurbished ones are fantastic. only missing personal screens, but for an hour flight, its perfect.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4703 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6058 times:

Thanks for the TR!

I saw about your bad news in the Polls/Prefs threads, and I felt so sorry for you!

What is it with the made made plans going pearshape at the moment? I've just read about IrishAyers bad luck missing out on the coral hopper as well.

I'm hoping to be in Scotland next year, so maybe you've just given me something to consider   

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
a quick jaunt to the Lounge. It was serviced by Servisair

Is this new? When I was in GLA last July BA had a dedicated Executive Club. It obviously wasn't as nice as the Galleries at LHR, but had some pretty decent food options and copious amount of the good stuff. Looking at the pictures I was definitely in a different lounge. Does anyone know if BA have closed the other one?



Worked Hard, Flew Right
User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
I'm hoping to be in Scotland next year, so maybe you've just given me something to consider

Sure thing. Worth it if the plane does eventually take off and land. Barra in itself is a great place to wind down.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
I saw about your bad news in the Polls/Prefs threads, and I felt so sorry for you

In the end I am quite happy with the outcome and the way LoganAir dealt with it. They accepted it was their mistake and agreed for a full refund of the ticket, in spite of meeting their obligation of reaching me to my destination, albeit horribly delayed.!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
Is this new? When I was in GLA last July BA had a dedicated Executive Club

I am pretty sure they still have the BA one. It was just that I am not a BA top tier member so no access to it. I used my Airport Angel card for the ServisAir lounge. not sure if it is new. First time to GLA. proves that I am a Newbie Flyer..  


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4703 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 5):
I am pretty sure they still have the BA one. It was just that I am not a BA top tier member so no access to it.

Ahhh OK, that makes sense!

Sorry for the confusion

Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 5):
In the end I am quite happy with the outcome and the way LoganAir dealt with it. They accepted it was their mistake and agreed for a full refund of the ticket

That's really great to hear, perhaps you can put the refund towards another attempt  
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 2):
My other half is not at all outdoorsy - how on earth to cajole into going to Barra

I won't be going with the over half in tow, so that won't be a problem, thankfully. (I can't believe I've just turned travelling without her into a positive!!!)



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User currently offlinenef From UK - Scotland, joined Jul 2011, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5400 times:

Thanks for the TR, I really enjoyed it! So sorry to hear it you never managed to actually make onto the BRR beach and the Twin Otter though. One flight cancelled is always possible, but to have both cancelled is such bad luck!

User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 6):
hat's really great to hear, perhaps you can put the refund towards another attempt

if i can convince my better half, then yes :P

Quoting nef (Reply 7):
Thanks for the TR, I really enjoyed it! So sorry to hear it you never managed to actually make onto the BRR beach and the Twin Otter though

Thanks nef. It was a good experience though - coach, ferry, new type of aircraft, all adds up  


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

Hey newbief1yer,

Thanks for the very interesting report. I'm really sorry that you missed the Twin Otter twice (!) on this trip. At least what you went through will stay with you as a very memorable experience. What happened to you reminds me of IrishAyes' ordeal (who missed the opportunity to fly on the Pacific Island Hopper due to a cancellation - not sure if you've read his report posted a few days ago).

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
It was a quick trip from home to the airport. A train, tram and another train hop away. At the airport, inside an hour despite a small fire scares at Gatwick.

It's funny how "a train, a tram and another train" is considered a "quick trip" in London. I guess you did get there under 1 hour so yeah that's pretty fast  .

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
said they took no responsibility after Benbeculla

I wonder why they didn't offer to fly you to Benbeculla and then ferry you to Barra like they did the following day. That could have saved you so much time compared to the long drive+ferry option from Oban.

Thanks again for putting this together. It's always fun to read reports about Scotland (a land very close to my heart).

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24815 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):

Actually, a five hour ferry and a coach seems like a fitting way to reach some of the most remote parts of England

You might want to refresh your geography....



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4562 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Thanks for the very interesting report. I'm really sorry that you missed the

Thanks and no worries. Always an excuse to go another time, hopefully luckier the second time.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
me of IrishAyes' ordeal

not read it yet, ill check it soon.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
I guess you did get there under 1

it was quick for that day as there seemed to be a fire scare at LGW. my mates took left their house at central London at 14:00 to catch a 18:30 flight - they missed it.!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
That could have saved you so much time compared to the long

not too much to be honest, around 3.5 hours in total. but yes, more stress free and convenient, and less tiring for sure. Luckily none of us suffered from being sea sick, as the ferry was more like a roller coaster on sea.!


User currently offlineinvaders From Norway, joined May 2012, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Hey newbief1yer,

Your TR was very enjoyable, it reminded me of the time I used to travel between BGO and KRS on the old SK F50 where it more then once happened that I had to go via OSL instead.

I am planning to do a vacation in Scotland again at one time, do you recommend a trip to Barra as part of the entire journey?


User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Quoting invaders (Reply 12):
Your TR was very enjoyable

Cheers invaders

Quoting invaders (Reply 12):
do you recommend a trip to Barra as part of the entire journey

Apart from the beach landing, I doubt it. it is a good place to relax, but I am sure there are areas around the highlands in Scotland that you could do a lot more.
But in case you do decide to go, let me know if you would need details - accommodation, car hire, places to eat, etc.


User currently offlineinvaders From Norway, joined May 2012, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 13):
But in case you do decide to go, let me know if you would need details - accommodation, car hire, places to eat, etc.

I will keep that in mind, I hope I get the chance next summer. DY have two weekly between BGO and EDI + Logan Air have a seasonal summer route between BGO and LSI wednesday and saturdays. Its all about getting my better half to join me and she is more keen on the sun, and from past experience I cant guarantee sun..

The main reason I want to go to Barra is that I really want to fly the Twin Otter. WF retired it before my interest for flying kicked off. My mum always tells me stories about how bad it was with the Twin Otter in northern parts of Norway.


User currently offlinenewbief1yer From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Quoting invaders (Reply 14):
Its all about getting my better half to join me and she is more keen on the sun, and from past experience I cant guarantee sun..
The main reason I want to go to Barra is that I really want to fly the Twin Otter.

Sun, is going to be a problem in Scotland, but if you do get Sun, it is one of the most picturesque places over and there would be no other place I would want to be. but from my experience in Scotland, 1 in 4 days will be amazing, and it would make up for the trip  
Happy flying.!


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