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ICN-NRT-LAX-MSP-MDW On KE 332, MH 772 And DL (Y)  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14185 times:

ICN-NRT-LAX-MSP-MDW on KE 332, MH 772 and DL (Y)

Thanks for reading the continuation to my long-ago started series on East Asia, my 28th trip report here!

First, as usual, let me do the overall itinerary:

0B 111, OTP-BGY, 734, 29DEC
AZ 786, MXP-NRT, 772, 30 DEC
KE 2726, KIX-GMP, AB6, 04JAN
KE 1, ICN-NRT, 332, 06JAN
MH 92, NRT-LAX, 772, 06JAN
DL 2168, LAX-MSP, 752, 07JAN
DL 5778, MSP-MDW, E70, 07JAN

Part 1: Blue Err... To Bergamo And Milano (by dc9northwest Jan 8 2013 in Trip Reports)
Part 2: Going To Tokyo... Alitalia 777-200ER, MXP-NRT (by dc9northwest Jan 13 2013 in Trip Reports)
Part 3: Kyoto, The KE A300-600, And Seoul (by dc9northwest Apr 2 2013 in Trip Reports)

I'd left off in Seoul. After a good night's sleep in the City Park Hotel, it was time to depart for ICN to catch our flight to NRT and onwards. As expected, we walked 10 minutes to the subway. We entered the station... and “met” a very strange guy who stared at us for a while. We had yet more problems with the barriers upon exiting the subway station at the Central Station (this time M, but not me)... Then we struggled to find the airport railroad stop, tucked away in a corner; we descended what seemed to be 7 flights of stairs (escalators, though, so no big problem). We decided not to take the AREX train to ICN (as we'd missed our planned one) and to take a regular commuter train there. It was also cheaper... and would get us there faster... So we didn't get to check-in at the train station.

Once we descended 7 more flights of stairs to the pits of hell (I joke)... we took the 2nd train in the direction of the airport (the first one wouldn't go all the way there)... upon embarkation I notice that instead of showing the stops, the in-train monitor was showing a Windows error (the famous BSOD). Hint: As a country, Korea, stop using Windows! If you hate Apple products, there's always Linux.

ICN public area (M):


ICN at 9:47am (M):


Need a help desk? (M):


Some more views (M):


Finally, we reach ICN, and after a good 10 minutes of walking we reached the check-in desks... Luckily the Elite Plus status permitted us to use the nice and quick business class desks. It was getting late (90 min before the flight or so). I expected us to get seats in the middle of the aircraft, potentially split apart, since OLCI didn't bother to work this time. However, to my delight, we received exit row seats, 41A and 41B. Great. What's more, since we would be connecting to MH, I asked whether the baggage can be checked all the way to LAX. The answer was a resounding yes. Gotta love Asian customer service. Soon, we were on our way to the gate... And, yes, I am impressed by KE's ground service.

Incheon Landside:


Airside (M):


KE001
ICN-NRT
A330-200
HL8227
Seats: 41A, 41B (exit-row seating)

After a brief pit stop in the KAL Lounge, and a snack and a facebook check-in (maybe?), we proceeded to our gate, to meet the A330 taking us to Tokyo-Narita. The slight delay of our flight didn't affect us. We waited 10 or 15 minutes, and were then able to board via the priority lane. Soon, we reached our infinite-legroom seats and settled in... Would we be in for a good flight, and a good journey?

A few KE aircraft:


HL8227's tail:


ICN airside:


777 next to us:


A view of our A332 on its long journey to NRT and LAX:


Legroom shot:


A330-200 safety card:


AKA 747 with 2 engines:


Exit row details:


General view between 3L and 3R doors:


Bye-bye 777 (to DFW, maybe?):


Looking out a miniature window:



Not too long after, we pushed-back and the engines started with a wisp of white smoke.

We then proceeded to the active runway and took off to the North. Soon after we did a quick left turn, lest we enter North Korean airspace. That would not be good at all. We all know what can happen in enemy airspace. Then we overflew Seoul allowing a couple of pictures.

Engine start-up:


Did you know some Asian airlines also have narrowbodies? It's amazing!


It's a 747!


Shortly after take-off, during the avoid DPRK airspace maneuver:


A kinda blurry picture of Seoul:


I haven't explored much of KE's IFE, but it looks great.

KE's wonderful PTV with AVOD:


Bid my commands, remote!


Flight path:


Soon after, we were served our meals. Better than on the KIX-GMP segment for sure. We were served beef with rice. A small meal, but at least warm. However, I'm not entirely pleased with Korean's drink service procedure. As I said before, only water, OJ and coke were displayed on top of the carts. Furthermore, when M asked for water, the F/A indicated the miniature cup we were given. Not too good. One shouldn't have to insist to receive (more) water... certainly not on one of the world's best airlines. This never happened to me even on TAROM or Air Moldova.

At some later point we were served green tea. I'm not an expert, but M tells me it wasn't so good.

Meal:


Well, it's beef, I shan't complain:


Caffeine:


I paid a lavatorial visit and liked what I saw. Somehow, the bathroom looked “classy”.

Perhaps the nicest airplane bathroom I've seen:


Soon we were on descent to Tokyo-Narita again, with nice views of the Japanese countryside and beaches... We reached Japan's Eastern coast before landing at NRT from the South.

On descent to NRT:


Japan's Eastern Seaboard:


Mood lighting:


Descending further:


KE use terminal 1 at NRT... Heavily. There were quite a few KAL aircraft on the ground here, though not as many as DL aircraft. We disembarked the A330 and said bye-bye... We even saw a sign for MH92 passengers (that's us! I doubt anyone else was making this connection) to follow... We were debating whether to go to Narita town, but in the end decided against it. We had to show our itinerary when passing through security as we didn't yet have boarding passes (no worries—we had already pre-bought some seats for the MH flight, so no rush here).

air HK at NRT:


One of NRT's satellites:


KE 747 at NRT:


My friend at University would also connect through NRT today, going back to school. While exploring T1 I decided to check my facebook and, sure enough, he had landed as well. We decided to meet near gate 34 (aka where he was sitting to charge some electronic device).

We sat by some windows, talked... some of us ate, some of us looked at planes... Discussed the A380, the 787... Some physics. Soon it was his turn to go catch his flight to SEA. M and I still had hours before our flight to LAX, but NRT was an enjoyable place to spend time.



UA 777 like the one my friend would be arriving in NRT in:


I like NRT's interior a lot:


It's a 787 (hadn't been grounded yet):


Thai's colorful A380:


T1 interior:


T1 interior:


air HK once again:


At some point later we decided to head to T2 as this is where MH (and other oneworld affiliated airlines) departed from. A small shuttle bus running every 15-30 minutes assured connections between the terminals. Only one other person got on the bus this time. It was far from rush hour.

Once we got to T2 a delightful man answered all our questions without us even asking. He told us MH would leave from gate 88... We thanked him and, since we looked a bit unsure, he added--”if you need boarding passes, you can get them at the gate. There is no transfer desk for MH”. Great. We took our time, had some green tea ice cream (IIRC) and walked around. Not much activity... not as much as I expected, anyway. Then, we took the train to the Satellite wing of T2.

787 close-up:


777:


Inter-terminal transfer:


JAL 777:


Another (M):


T2:


I was tired so I sat down while M explored some more areas of the terminal. Not long after, I heard some movement behind me. The airport employees were setting up a “safe zone” for this flight to the USA... I told them I still had to get a boarding pass and was waiting for someone still. No problem, they let me in, and M as well when she arrived back. Then, we were off to the counter to get our boarding passes... We were third in line. One guy was angry for some reason... Well, soon it was our turn. My boarding pass was emitted quickly. M's... took a while. To his credit the agent, in that true Japanese style, always looked like he wanted to appear that he knew what he was doing, but it was obvious that he was a bit confused. Then again, it's a understandable. Who else with a Romanian passport flies from Japan to the US on Malaysia with a not very common visa type which requires some sort of letter from the University? At some point M gets her BP. 5 minutes later, the agent comes back and asks to see the BP and passport again. No problem. 20 minutes later... finally, we're set.

Screen (I may be able to read Korean, but not Japanese—much harder!):


MH092
NRT-LAX
B777-200
9M-MRF
Seats: 18A, 18B (overwing)

The aircraft is now in... 9M-MRF would be taking us to LAX tonight. Slowly, the boarding area gets filled with people... Before it gets too full, the agent comes by and tears off the boarding pass stub, checks our ID and returns to the podium after doing so for all of us. Interesting procedure! Then, we find out what's going on—everyone can board... at the same time.

9M-MRF (M):


Boarding, AKA “all aboard” (M):


There was plenty of time to take this pic (M):


Well, we decided to wait until most of the people entered the ramp to the jetway. Among the last, we entered the aircraft and headed to 19A and 19B only to find out they were occupied... By a couple who had 18A and 18B and mistakenly sat on our seats. Well, row 18 had a window as well, so, we took those seats.

You might be wondering... Why the hell did I choose to fly Malaysia on this segment? After all, KE1 was continuing on to LAX, wasn't it?

1) Price. KE is very expensive.
2) MH has a 2-5-2 configuration in their 777s
3) When else would I get the chance to fly Malaysia?
4) KE doesn't offer the option of choosing seats unless you're a Skypass member. Why penalize partner airline members, KE?

In my opinion, only a crazy person would choose KE over MH in this situation :P

OK, so we were all set. MH's seating is rather comfortable... but more on that later.

Malaysian legroom:


Too many liveries, MAS, decide on one!



Well, it had gotten quite dark by the time we were on our way. After a not very short taxi to the active runway, we took off into the night-sky.

Maklumat Keselamatan:


2-5-2 configuration (M):


Footrest:


More cabin view:


Malaysia's IFE wasn't all that great, but definitely worked. As I was quite tired, I wasn't that interested in the offering and stuck to the inflight map, as we are all wont to do. Indeed, it was quite interesting either way. We were at one point flying at 1183 km/h... Not bad for an oldie like this 777, 9M-MRF, which first flew in 1998. I feel old when realizing some 777s are starting to reach old age...

I bought this flight for peanuts (well, technically M did):


Going 735 miles an hour:


Anyway, soon after, we were served a meal. I had beef with mushrooms whereas M had some chicken in red sauce as far as she remembers. Quite good for airline food... I like how the choices were not the ubiquitous chicken or pasta.

Meal (beef w/ mushrooms and rice):


Was good:


That said, the service left a bit to be desired... I don't remember ever seeing a smile from the F/A in charge of our sector and she kept moving pillows around (taking them or putting them in M's hands, for instance), without ever mentioning why. The way she handled this left a impression of brutality rather than anything else (e.g. efficiency, which I assume she was going for). Surely she could ask nicely first! Would've been nice to know what she was doing.

Afterwards, well... There's not much to say since I... uh... Let's say that, uh, proceeded to fall asleep... and sleep for 7 hours or so. I'm told the F/A really wanted to wake me up for breakfast... but I don't remember a thing. I fell asleep, and the next thing I knew we were nearing L.A.

Luckily M so kindly took a picture of her breakfast for you guys.

Breakfast (I slept right through) (M):


Nearing LAX:


Clouds? in LA? Whaaat?


Nice purple seat:


Touchdown:


QF A380:


We're Going Places:


So-cal:


Terima kasih:


KL 747:


New terminal:


Arrival into LAX... We landed from the East, with quite a few sinister-looking clouds around. We landed on one of the North runways and taxied to our gate at the International Terminal (TBIT). We disembarked and proceeded to immigration (which thankfully didn't take that long for me). I went, got our bags, and waited for M to pass through the non-U.S. immigration line... which took a while. Well, here comes the biggie... The line to go through customs was huge, coiling around the terminal and its end seemingly un-discoverable by normal means. Well, we finally joined the queue and waited and waited. After just 3 days in Japan and its unwavering politeness, I was culture shocked, even after 7 years of living in the States (I don't find Americans to be mean on purpose, though). The attitude of the official line-minder (even meaningless power corrupts... meaninglessly) was to mock whoever didn't obey the rules. More Soviet Union than anything else really... and this was not the last time I had this thought at LAX. Well, that's it, we passed through customs, exited to the rather chaotic landside at TBIT, and proceeded to our shuttle to the Sheraton Gateway hotel (at first, I booked a hotel in Hollywood, but I changed my mind thinking I wouldn't be in the mood to see Hollywood after Japan... I made the right choice). Ah, back in the land of the tips. I always think tips correlate inversely with the civilization level of a society... But I digress.

UFO at LAX:


DL 757 from the hotel room:


764 (aka one of the few reasons I'd fly UA):


No reason to fly these guys for me:


Polar 747:


View from hotel:


Fedexes:


That said, the people at the Sheraton Gateway were the typical American exuberant-to-be-in-your-service types... Which is not bad, I guess. At least they definitely look they at least want to earn the tips. As we were tired (yeah, I was somewhere between very tired and rested), we decided to stay in the hotel, even though we had the option of going to the restaurant in the LAX landmark building (don't know if you need reservations). It's such a pain to not be able to walk anywhere  

OK, we then ordered some room service, slept, etc...

Next morning, we were ready to “waste” a day by going back to Chicago via Minneapolis on Delta.

Well, we took the shuttle back to LAX... and an overcrowded T5. Not what I like to see. Well, it didn't really affect me as I just went to the check-in kiosk, and got the boarding passes. Then we dropped off our bags... When returning our boarding passes, while turning her head away, the agent told us “thanks for flying Delta”, before letting the pieces of paper drop precipitously towards the end of the desk, where we were eagerly awaiting. A slight flick of the wrist ensured the boarding passes were delivered towards us, and not in some random direction. Horosho. Do svidania.

Towards security next. Huge line here too... I really, really, really like being able to go around lines when I'm allowed to. My status allowed me to do that here, so we were through in less than 5 minutes.

Next, it was turn to get some food. The place we chose, from a virulent competition of ~3 eateries, didn't have half the stuff on the menu, the uber-cool ordering system didn't work (because the things that were listed there were mostly unavailable, I guess), and not even a “sorry” was heard from the workers there—what do they care, anyway? They're paid in nickles and dimes. Not having half the stuff on the menu... Is this 1980's communist Romania or one of the most famous cities in the world? Well... I never was a fan of Southern California, but LAX has just jumped to near the top of the list in the “airports I've been to... which suck” category.

Well, soon enough, it was time to board our 757 to Minneapolis. As soon as priority boarding was called, I jumped at the opportunity to leave LAX. We were situated on 21A and 21B of this flight to MSP... Which had gone from a 763 (interesting) to a 753 (good) to a 752 (don't mind it). But for some reason, it was seriously downgraded!

DL2168
LAX-MSP
B757-200
N695DL
Seats: 21A, 21B (Economy Comfort)

Well, I don't remember much from this flight since I was sleeping for half the time. Furthermore, writing about US domestic flights is not my strength since they're not as interesting to the audience because of their ubiquity on the forum. That said, I am a fan of Delta and their flight was perfectly adequate. They even had blankets on (at least the E+) seats.

Hollywood sign (because that's what LA's famous for):


Western US landscapes (M):


Another (M):


Mountains and canyons:


Well, I slept for about the first half of the flight but M took some pictures of the landscapes below while I was sleeping. Drinks and tea/coffee were offered. Food or snacks of some description were offered (some for free—peanuts, pretzels, Biscoff) but we didn't purchase anything.

DL 757 seat:


Is that a highway? I think this was above CO:


DL blanket:


757 engine:


Now retired camera and apple juice:


Bigelow tea:


General cabin view:


The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park:


After about 3 hours, we landed in MSP, arrived at our gate in Concourse F, and proceeded to grab a bite of Chinese food before heading to some G gate to board our flight to MDW.

757 in MSP:


By the way, Minneapolis is slowly but surely becoming the coolest place to connect in the States—right now, free iPads are offered for anyone's use in the G concourse gates!

DL5778
MSP-MDW
EMB-170
N747CZ
Seats: 05A, 05B

Regarding the E-170 flight... Not much to say, really. A typical one hour flight with snack/drink service. No atypical events enroute.

Upon landing at MDW, we received our bags and took the 55 back to Hyde Park. The trip was over, and General Relativity would start the next day.

E-170-100:


Modern-ish:


Compass:


Looks like an Embraer to me:


Some legroom:


M's view of the flight deck (M):




Overall thoughts:

KE, MH are definitely better than average airlines. Each come with their own unique “challenges”... Somehow, I expected more from the crew in both cases... Considering that's what's supposed to separate Asian airlines from the competition. Nevertheless, the meals were good. The seats comfortable in both cases.

KE's IFE system seems really nice. KE's check-in process in ICN is wonderful.

Korean Air would get a both “thumbs up” if they solved their IT issues.

Malaysia failed to impress but, unlike KE, permits the purchase of specific seats for the long-haul segments. Also, they offer rather cheap fares from Tokyo to the USA.

MH: I'm glad I flew them... I'm not sure when I will have the chance to do so again, however. I would definitely consider them again, though, if given the opportunity.

ICN: Great airport—one of the best I've seen. However, I regret that I didn't have more time to explore...

NRT: I really like it. Yes, it's inconvenient for Tokyo residents being rather far from the city (nothing that a high-speed train can't solve   ) but it's a nice place to connect, with helpful people around.

LAX: Not my favorite airport, for sure... I cannot say many good things about TBIT and T5...

Japan: I really want to go back. Great place to visit.

Korea: an interesting place, though Seoul is less interesting than expected for a city of 20 million. AYA333 warned me about this on our mutual 777 flight from MXP to NRT...

Previous Trip Reports:
Kyoto, The KE A300-600, And Seoul (by dc9northwest Apr 2 2013 in Trip Reports)
Going To Tokyo... Alitalia 777-200ER, MXP-NRT (by dc9northwest Jan 13 2013 in Trip Reports)
Blue Err... To Bergamo And Milano (by dc9northwest Jan 8 2013 in Trip Reports)
First Time To Canada: RO 733, KL M11, Porter DH4 (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Austrian To VIE, Plus Bratislava And A Schnitzel (by dc9northwest Dec 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
SFO-JFK On AA, 762, And LGA-MDW On WN, 738 (by dc9northwest Dec 19 2012 in Trip Reports)
California Dreamin': Virgin To SFO (by dc9northwest Dec 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Moldovan Adventure: Chisinau And 9U From VCE To OT (by dc9northwest Aug 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
AZ, MLA-FCO-BLQ, And San Marino (by dc9northwest Aug 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Malta On Emirates' A330-200 (LCA-MLA) (by dc9northwest Aug 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
TAROM, OTP-LCA, B737-300, And Nicosia (by dc9northwest Aug 23 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part V: LYR-OTP, SK/OS, 73G/100 (by dc9northwest Aug 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part IV: Tromsø Og Svalbard (by dc9northwest Aug 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part III: Bodø, And A Widerøe Dash 8 To Tromsø (by dc9northwest Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part II: Bergen/Trondheim (by dc9northwest Jul 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part I: OTP-FRA-OSL, LH, A320 (by dc9northwest Jul 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
Delta's 757-300, FLL-ATL, 22MAY12 (by dc9northwest Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
ORD-JFK-FCO-OTP, B6/DL/AZ, June 2012 (by dc9northwest Jun 16 2012 in Trip Reports)
Bahamasair's 737-200, UP205, 21MAY12 (by dc9northwest May 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, ORD-CDG, Delta, 763 (by dc9northwest Apr 8 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, FCO-JFK-ORD, Delta, 333/CR7 (by dc9northwest Apr 1 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, OTP-FCO, Alitalia, A319 (by dc9northwest Mar 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
MCI-OTP: Three Upgrades And A380 Flight Deck Visit (by dc9northwest Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Baltic States In 6 Easy Flights (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Romanian TR: Bucuresti-Suceava Via Timisoara (by dc9northwest Dec 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Connecting In ATL, Right Before The Snowstorm (by dc9northwest Mar 1 2010 in Trip Reports)
MCI-ATL-AMS-OTP With DL And KL (60+pics And Vids) (by Dc9northwest Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13845 times:

Nice report. I particularly wanted to see about the MH leg as I considered flying with them to NRT, but settles for a non-stop on from ORD with UA. It is true KE is usually higher priced, but that is where the frequent flyer miles come in.
I do like NRT airport mostly for their courtous and helpful staff.

Are you sure that MH served breakfast, it looked like another dinner to me? Seoul is good for a day trip.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13754 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 1):

Nice report. I particularly wanted to see about the MH leg as I considered flying with them to NRT, but settles for a non-stop on from ORD with UA. It is true KE is usually higher priced, but that is where the frequent flyer miles come in.

Thanks WROORD!

MH also gives (gave?) FF miles on Flying Blue, so that was another advantage... I certainly didn't wanna get stuck in a middle seat on the trans-Pacific crossing.

Compared to UA, MH is brilliant  

Regarding breakfast, I have no idea what they called it, but it was right after people started waking up, so I'd call it breakfast.

Thanks for reading!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13660 times:

Hey Alex, nice to see you back on your TR-writing duties. I'm hoping to see many more reports from you as I know you've been to quite a few exciting places lately.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Legroom shot:

Why can't all seats be like that? It would have been great to have this on the TPAC segment too. The problem with bulkhead seats however is the inevitable co-existence with (potentially) crying babies. Did you have any of that?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Did you know some Asian airlines also have narrowbodies? It's amazing!

I know, it's kinda funny how we only think of heavies when thinking of Asian carriers. I had to do a double take the first time I saw a JAL 737.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Who else with a Romanian passport flies from Japan to the US on Malaysia with a not very common visa type which requires some sort of letter from the University? At some point M gets her BP. 5 minutes later, the agent comes back and asks to see the BP and passport again. No problem. 20 minutes later... finally, we're set.

Why does this sound so familiar to me? .

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
19A and 19B only to find out they were occupied... By a couple who had 18A and 18B and mistakenly sat on our seats.

It's amazing how often this happens. It's usually either a family or an old couple. I mean how hard is it to tell what row you're in?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Let's say that, uh, proceeded to fall asleep... and sleep for 7 hours or so.

Man, you're so lucky. I'd be glad if I sleep for an hour at a time. I'm jealous.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
No reason to fly these guys for me:

The only reason I wanna fly one of these is a chance to fly out of GYY. That would be quite interesting.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
LAX has just jumped to near the top of the list in the “airports I've been to... which suck” category

I wonder what took you so long to put it there  . LAX has been simply dreadful every time I've been there.

Thanks for the nice read Alex! Looking forward to all the other good stuff you're preparing for us.


Stojan



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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2462 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13367 times:

Nice trip report and pictures!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
By the way, Minneapolis is slowly but surely becoming the coolest place to connect in the States—right now, free iPads are offered for anyone's use in the G concourse gates!

About two weeks ago I flew MKE-MSP-LAS and I had never seen anything like that before at an airport. Very cool indeed.



Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13109 times:

Nice report. I took MH 92/93 last year when I went to Japan because it was insanely cheap ($491 RT!) and I greatly enjoyed it. The MH crews I had were wonderful. My mom wasn't feeling well so this really nice (and hot) Indo-Malaysian FA made her some Teh Tarik and kept checking on her throughout the flight. I thought that was a nice touch.

Glad you enjoyed yourself!


User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 511 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12125 times:

Hi there,
Nice report!
KE looked indeed good and their IFE seems to be one of the better ones around.
Speaking of MH i think they could start to refurbish their 77E if they plan to have them in service for the next couple of years.

Thanks a lot for sharing
Cheers,
Johannes


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12105 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
Hey Alex, nice to see you back on your TR-writing duties. I'm hoping to see many more reports from you as I know you've been to quite a few exciting places lately.

Hey Stojan, thanks a bunch   Yes, they're coming! Can't guarantee when, but they're coming!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
Why can't all seats be like that? It would have been great to have this on the TPAC segment too. The problem with bulkhead seats however is the inevitable co-existence with (potentially) crying babies. Did you have any of that?

The answer to your first question is that people are cheapskates. On the TPAC segment... in that case I wouldn't've slept, since I used the tray table as a headrest. Much more difficult to accomplish at a bulkhead. Don't remember any crying on this segment.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
I know, it's kinda funny how we only think of heavies when thinking of Asian carriers. I had to do a double take the first time I saw a JAL 737.

Haha. It's true... quite unexpected for me.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
Why does this sound so familiar to me? .

I'm not sure.. but I don't think it's the Romanian passport that sounds familiar  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
It's amazing how often this happens. It's usually either a family or an old couple. I mean how hard is it to tell what row you're in?

For this couple it seemed to be chronic! They were commenting this happened to them before... Well, guys, it's not something that happens! You sat in the wrong seat. But whatever...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
Man, you're so lucky. I'd be glad if I sleep for an hour at a time. I'm jealous.

A man makes his own luck... But, yeah, luckily I'm short so can contort myself into a sleeping position more easily. I didn't expect the seat to be this comfortable.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
The only reason I wanna fly one of these is a chance to fly out of GYY. That would be quite interesting.

That's fair enough.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):

Thanks for the nice read Alex! Looking forward to all the other good stuff you're preparing for us.

Thanks again, Stojan. I know you'll enjoy (and hate me for) my next series  
Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):

Nice trip report and pictures!

Thanks mke717spotter!

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):
About two weeks ago I flew MKE-MSP-LAS and I had never seen anything like that before at an airport. Very cool indeed.

Yeah, very cool!

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 5):
Nice report. I took MH 92/93 last year when I went to Japan because it was insanely cheap ($491 RT!) and I greatly enjoyed it. The MH crews I had were wonderful. My mom wasn't feeling well so this really nice (and hot) Indo-Malaysian FA made her some Teh Tarik and kept checking on her throughout the flight. I thought that was a nice touch.

Glad you enjoyed yourself!

Thanks!

Well, that's cheaper than what I paid for a one-way! Good to hear you had a good experience with the MH crews. I think my case might have been an exception... Well, that's what I hear.

Thanks agin usflyer msp!


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11879 times:
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Hi there Alex!

It's about time you got this last part up  
Nevertheless another great report with many nice pictures!
KE & MH look quite good here, shame the FAs weren't the best. Delta looks like the usual  
ICN & NRT both look like great airports!

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to more!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11737 times:

Hello Alex!

How are you doing my friend? Very nice report as always! I read it with a lot of interest.

I am sorry KE was a bit disappointing. I had my fair share of trouble selecting a seat for my flights on KE back in 2011 (I booked on DL), but in the end I was able to sort it out on the phone. I really want to try their A380 or 748i service some time soon, or perhaps book a segment with them in a premium cabin (latest product).

I am glad you were able to try MH. I have read lots of great things about MH on this forum. I'd definitely love to fly MH some time. It is a pity they were not allowed to continue offering MEX-LAX some years ago. Were you able to accrue oneworld elite miles?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11579 times:

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):

Hi there,
Nice report!
KE looked indeed good and their IFE seems to be one of the better ones around.

Hi Johannes, thanks for your comments!

Yes, it seems so, regarding KE...

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 6):
Speaking of MH i think they could start to refurbish their 77E if they plan to have them in service for the next couple of years.

Fair enough. They should keep their 2-5-2 configuration, though!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):

Hi there Alex!

Hi Brendan!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
It's about time you got this last part up  
Nevertheless another great report with many nice pictures!

It is, isn't it? :P I had more important things to do, haha... But I'm back now  

Thanks!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
KE & MH look quite good here, shame the FAs weren't the best. Delta looks like the usual  
ICN & NRT both look like great airports!

Yup, agree with you!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
Thanks for sharing and looking forward to more!

Thanks. Shouldn't be a long wait   I'll be looking forward to your US trip continuation 
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 9):
Hello Alex!

How are you doing my friend? Very nice report as always! I read it with a lot of interest.

Hi Eddie,

I'm doing well, how about you?

Thanks  
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 9):
I am sorry KE was a bit disappointing. I had my fair share of trouble selecting a seat for my flights on KE back in 2011 (I booked on DL), but in the end I was able to sort it out on the phone. I really want to try their A380 or 748i service some time soon, or perhaps book a segment with them in a premium cabin (latest product).

Well, in the end KE was fine. Sure there were some hiccups, but no big deal. That said, I'd be hesitant to buy an expensive ticket and not be able to select seats in advance, especially on 10+ hour flights!

748i would be quite interesting indeed, Eddie!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 9):
I am glad you were able to try MH. I have read lots of great things about MH on this forum. I'd definitely love to fly MH some time. It is a pity they were not allowed to continue offering MEX-LAX some years ago. Were you able to accrue oneworld elite miles?

Yes, MH was good overall. I didn't know they flew MEX-LAX! Interesting info.

I put the miles in my Flying Blue account... I think I opened my AAirmiles account later than this flight, anyway.

Cheers, Eddie! Thanks for reading!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11002 times:

Hi Alex !

Nice report with nice pictures !

Nice to see you got some good sleep on the NRT-LAX flight; how full was it ? I'm thinking of taking it in September in the other direction.

2-5-2 is nice as long as you are two and have good seats, however if you are stuck in the center of 5 for 12h with strangers on both sides, you will have a different opinion..... 

I had great crew on MH too bad they are not as good on your flight.

For a comparison on KE, check out my KE 773 report:

Korean Air 777-300 Bangkok BKK - Seoul ICN In Y (by The777Man Jun 6 2013 in Trip Reports)

LAX can be a hassle to connect thru. Depending on time of day, line can be long but they are long at most other airports as well.

LAX is the best airport for spotting !

Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10896 times:

Hi Alex, great report! Looks like you some good flights back to the US. ICN seems very a nice airprot. Pretty nice to have the 2-5-2 config on the 777, very comfy if you are travelling with two people. Thanks for posting!

User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10829 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Hi Alex !

Nice report with nice pictures !

Hi, The777Man, and thanks very much!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Nice to see you got some good sleep on the NRT-LAX flight; how full was it ? I'm thinking of taking it in September in the other direction.

Yes, i found MH rather comfortable. I think it was over 90% full, if not completely... I don't remember any empty seats in the immediate vicinity and it seemed as though a lot of people boarded the plane (though I didn't count). I didn't walk around the back cabin, since I slept most of the time.

I think it would be a nice flight  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
2-5-2 is nice as long as you are two and have good seats, however if you are stuck in the center of 5 for 12h with strangers on both sides, you will have a different opinion..... 

Yes, perhaps. I did take an ATL-CDG flight on a MD-11 with 2-5-2 configuration... stuck in the middle middle seat. I don't remember if my mother was next to me or not... I was... 10, maybe, and slept the whole way anyway.

However, there are no "really good" seats in the 3-3-3 config. I guess also not a "really bad" one   I find the aisle seats too prone to getting hit by someone for sleeping...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
I had great crew on MH too bad they are not as good on your flight.

Only interacted with one F/A... and she was a bit weird. I'd place her on the same level as LOT F/As. Not sure if you've ever flown them... Perhaps the rest of the crew was good. I've heard good things myself.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
For a comparison on KE, check out my KE 773 report:

Ah, yes, quite similar. I'll add some comments there soon!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
LAX can be a hassle to connect thru. Depending on time of day, line can be long but they are long at most other airports as well.

Well, it's not worse than CDG. At least the old CDG that I hate. Luckily I had a lot of time in LA.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
LAX is the best airport for spotting !

Ah, yes, you guys have really nice weather and good places to spot. Too bad I didn't check A.net while on my trip so I missed your message  

Thanks again, L.!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

Hi Alex, great report! Looks like you some good flights back to the US. ICN seems very a nice airprot. Pretty nice to have the 2-5-2 config on the 777, very comfy if you are travelling with two people. Thanks for posting!

Thanks for reading, Robert!

Yup, everything went smoothly, thanks to the great customer service in Asia! 2-5-2 is my fav  

BTW, I hope to soon comment on your IOM report!

Thanks again, guys!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10593 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

nice report, good choice of airlines/routes! Both KE and MH look fine, the latter's product is certainly a bit outdated on the 777. I wasn't overly impressed by MH either when I tried it in 2008.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
AKA 747 with 2 engines:

Horrible, who makes that stuff?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Did you know some Asian airlines also have narrowbodies? It's amazing!

Why shouldn't they?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
2) MH has a 2-5-2 configuration in their 777s

My favorite 777 configuration.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Too many liveries, MAS, decide on one!

Some variety isn't bad. They should just add some red to the A380 variant.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Not bad for an oldie like this 777, 9M-MRF, which first flew in 1998.

15 years? That's close to nothing for a long-haul bird.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Ah, back in the land of the tips. I always think tips correlate inversely with the civilization level of a society... But I digress.

Well, that's a rather simplistic statement, to be honest.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Now retired camera and apple juice:

Interesting color - inspired by Song by Delta?  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

LAX: Not my favorite airport, for sure... I cannot say many good things about TBIT and T5...

LAX is certainly not the best airport from a passenger's point of view...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
LAX is the best airport for spotting !

...but as Lars says, it's fantastic for spotting.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10545 times:

Excellent report here. Nice to see more of ICN and NRT. It has been years since i have been to NRT; MH used to go through TPE on their LAX flights. I have many fond memories of MH and LAX....enjoy the memories of your LAX flight because i honestly think they will pull out of LAX once their membership in OW becomes solid. Their product used to be top notch and they had very reasonable prices; but once EK showed up in LAX, i knew they were done for and that was around the time they started cutting back on their services  .

User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10398 times:

Hi Alex

Another great report, thanks for sharing!
Good to see MH still having the classic 2-5-2 on their 777s. Look like a comfortable ride.
Splendid pics as usual aswell

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10281 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Hi dc9northwest,

nice report, good choice of airlines/routes! Both KE and MH look fine, the latter's product is certainly a bit outdated on the 777. I wasn't overly impressed by MH either when I tried it in 2008.

Hi PlaneHunter,

Thanks very much for reading!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Horrible, who makes that stuff?

Beats me... I don't think it's that hard to feature the right aircraft...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Why shouldn't they?

Of course they should. If nothing else, for the variety  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
15 years? That's close to nothing for a long-haul bird.

Sure, the number of cycles isn't that large, but after all, many airlines retire this sort of birds after ~15 years... though that can depend on other factors as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Well, that's a rather simplistic statement, to be honest.

Always feel free to be honest. It may be simplistic, but I think it's... not that wrong. I always try to respect local customs, but I think the best system is the one where you don't have to tip. For me, "baksheesh" is a dirty word.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Interesting color - inspired by Song by Delta?  

Well, I like green (though that shade is a bit light for me). Also inspired by the fact that it was the color immediately available on amazon  

Thanks again, PH!


Hi caliatenza, and thanks for commenting,

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 15):
I have many fond memories of MH and LAX....enjoy the memories of your LAX flight because i honestly think they will pull out of LAX once their membership in OW becomes solid.

We will see. It'd be a shame for them to pull out, though the competition on that route is insane.

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 15):
Their product used to be top notch and they had very reasonable prices; but once EK showed up in LAX, i knew they were done for and that was around the time they started cutting back on their services  

They still offer a very good product, if a bit dated. It's a interesting mix of old and new... I liked it, since it's a bit retro. Reminded me a bit of my first transatlantic crossings...

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):

Hi Alex

Hi Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
Another great report, thanks for sharing!
Good to see MH still having the classic 2-5-2 on their 777s. Look like a comfortable ride.
Splendid pics as usual aswell

Thanks for reading!

Yes, the seats were pretty comfortable. Well, my opinion on the 2-5-2 should be well known by now  

Thanks for the compliments!


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10069 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 17):

We will see. It'd be a shame for them to pull out, though the competition on that route is insane.


It is; the only reason MH keeps the route going is for prestige. I started flying with them on a regular basis in 2005, back and forth from India to the USA; they were one of the main carriers that time for routes to the Indian Subcontinent. I had also flown with them a few years before that as well. From what i can see from your report, MH still seems top notch in the service department, even if the product is dated. Even TG's hard product was similar to MH untill they deployed the 777W to LAX. I fear that MH is getting left behind by EK, SQ, and CX, with regards to passengers going to India or Southeast Asia.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9641 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 18):
It is; the only reason MH keeps the route going is for prestige.


Fair enough... It's 4x weekly now (or at least was, in winter). Did they use to fly daily in the past?

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 18):
I started flying with them on a regular basis in 2005, back and forth from India to the USA; they were one of the main carriers that time for routes to the Indian Subcontinent.

Interesting. Did they have good connection times at KUL for going to India?

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 18):
I fear that MH is getting left behind by EK, SQ, and CX, with regards to passengers going to India or Southeast Asia.

Well, everyone at the moment seems to be getting left behind by EK (not necessarily service-wise... but DXB is becoming a global hub)... I understand what you're saying though... And I guess it is very true that you have fewer choices...


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1772 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8961 times:
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Hi Alex,

Interesting stuff once again, I really like your narrative way of writing. KE and MH performing on the moderate side here, I understand your issue with the crews, it’s what the Asian carriers have to compete with (amongst others), too bad your failed a bit. The DL 757 ride looks cool as well, although you slept through it (almost).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
and the engines started with a wisp of white smoke.

Nothing better than a cold start with some freshly burnt A1!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
One shouldn't have to insist to receive (more) water... certainly not on one of the world's best airlines. This never happened to me even on TAROM or Air Moldova.

True about the water but I’m doubting on your references lol!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Some physics.

Of course! Physics of flight or quantum physics  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Too many liveries, MAS, decide on one!

I do praise MAS for having so many varieties. A bit of change here and there doesn’t hurt anyone...  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
No reason to fly these guys for me

Except for that lovely tail-engined piece of machinery?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
By the way, Minneapolis is slowly but surely becoming the coolest place to connect in the States—right now, free iPads are offered for anyone's use in the G concourse gates!

Is that so? That’s really good.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8926 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

Fantastic report. The MH portion is what definitely caught my attention (all the other airlines were great too!). This report is probably my first 'experience' of a US flight by MH, since the last time i flew them to EWR (amazing memories)  

The meals back then were definitely bigger in quantity (and there also were menus), but they still seem reasonably decent here. I think some airlines nowadays are playing around with the meals they serve on flights claiming it is for jet lag purposes or something. The meal you got before landing is definitely not a breakfast per se. It looks like steak and fries to me  

And apart from the -back then- new Business Class seats, nothing much else has changed on this aircraft  

By the way, how full was the flight? And were the majority of the pax joining from NRT?

Many thanks for sharing this with us.

Cheers,
Roni



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8706 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
Interesting stuff once again, I really like your narrative way of writing. KE and MH performing on the moderate side here, I understand your issue with the crews, it’s what the Asian carriers have to compete with (amongst others), too bad your failed a bit. The DL 757 ride looks cool as well, although you slept through it (almost).

Hey Nils, thanks very much for your comments  

Yeah, the flights weren't at all bad, rather not as great as you'd expect after stories of Asian airlines' great in-flight service...

I'm lucky enough to have a fair number of 757 flights in the past 2 years. Still really like that airplane, and too bad that I'll probably fly it no more than twice in the next year or so.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
Nothing better than a cold start with some freshly burnt A1!

It's delightful!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
True about the water but I’m doubting on your references lol!

Why don't you find out how 9U's service is?   It's been quite good for me.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
Of course! Physics of flight or quantum physics  

Quantum physics  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
I do praise MAS for having so many varieties. A bit of change here and there doesn’t hurt anyone...  

Ah, I guess so. The A380 one I still don't like, however.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
Except for that lovely tail-engined piece of machinery?

Sure. But then again, there's always AA and DL for that  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 20):
Is that so? That’s really good.

Indeed. I was really surprised when I first saw that a couple of months ago.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 21):
Fantastic report. The MH portion is what definitely caught my attention (all the other airlines were great too!). This report is probably my first 'experience' of a US flight by MH, since the last time i flew them to EWR (amazing memories)  

Hi Roni, thank you very much!

I'm glad I could bring back some amazing memories  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 21):
The meals back then were definitely bigger in quantity (and there also were menus), but they still seem reasonably decent here. I think some airlines nowadays are playing around with the meals they serve on flights claiming it is for jet lag purposes or something. The meal you got before landing is definitely not a breakfast per se. It looks like steak and fries to me  

I really can't complain about the quality of the meals on MH. And the fact that they gave us 2 hot meals (well, if we weren't asleep) on a 9-hour plus is fantastic. The 2nd meal was beef-based, I'm pretty sure, but as I said, I was asleep at the time. Anyway, certainly not a traditional breakfast  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 21):
And apart from the -back then- new Business Class seats, nothing much else has changed on this aircraft  

Thankfully for me, not the 2-5-2 configuration  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 21):
By the way, how full was the flight? And were the majority of the pax joining from NRT?

The flight was rather full, certainly over 90% in my section. Not sure about Business or the aft Y section.

Lots of people joined from NRT. However, I'm not sure if the passengers originating in KUL had to leave the aircraft at NRT (which might have been the case)...

Quoting ronerone (Reply 21):
Many thanks for sharing this with us.

Many thanks for reading and commenting, Roni!

Thanks again, guys  


User currently offlinedsmflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8285 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park:

I really liked this trip report, but this line made me love it. Great band. I've seen them four or five times at various points across the Midwest.

Anyway, thanks for an enjoyable read.


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8000 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 19):

Fair enough... It's 4x weekly now (or at least was, in winter). Did they use to fly daily in the past?

oh yes, they used to fly daily...and then around 2007 they started cutting the flights down, i think first to 6 days a week..then 5 and then now the current 4. Maybe not coincidently, that was around the time MH started having financial troubles as well. I remember even flying the Hibiscus livery 747 twice, once on my way to LAX and then on the way back.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 19):

Interesting. Did they have good connection times at KUL for going to India?

Actually, and maybe this was only for South Indian destinations, but you would have to spend half a day at KLIA- the LAX flight would arrive in the morning, and the connection to India would be in the evening. They would give you a free hotel stay nearby the airport though. I am assuming its still like that. One time, actually it was the first time our family flew MH to India (back then there were no flights to BLR; instead we had to fly to MAA), we got enough time to have a tour of KL, which was nice.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 19):

Well, everyone at the moment seems to be getting left behind by EK (not necessarily service-wise... but DXB is becoming a global hub)... I understand what you're saying though... And I guess it is very true that you have fewer choices...

Thai Airways was comparable to MH in terms of product on the LAX route until recently, when they inducted the 777-300ER. Now they are on par with EK, CX, etc. But yes, the choices are going down and EK knows it can charge an arm and a leg from LAX to India, because they offer very fast connections...hopefully prices will go down with them introducing the A380


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6729 times:

Quoting dsmflyer (Reply 23):
I really liked this trip report, but this line made me love it. Great band. I've seen them four or five times at various points across the Midwest.

Anyway, thanks for an enjoyable read.

Hi DSMflyer..... Good to know there are listeners of good music on the forums  

Thanks for reading and commenting!

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 24):
oh yes, they used to fly daily...and then around 2007 they started cutting the flights down, i think first to 6 days a week..then 5 and then now the current 4. Maybe not coincidently, that was around the time MH started having financial troubles as well. I remember even flying the Hibiscus livery 747 twice, once on my way to LAX and then on the way back.

Good to know. I wonder which came first, the route reduction or the financial troubles. That's a pretty cool special livery  
Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 24):
Actually, and maybe this was only for South Indian destinations, but you would have to spend half a day at KLIA- the LAX flight would arrive in the morning, and the connection to India would be in the evening. They would give you a free hotel stay nearby the airport though.

Well, that's nice of them. Always good to spend your layover relaxing in a hotel.

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 24):
I am assuming its still like that. One time, actually it was the first time our family flew MH to India (back then there were no flights to BLR; instead we had to fly to MAA), we got enough time to have a tour of KL, which was nice.

Enough to see the Petronas Twin Towers?  
Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 24):
Thai Airways was comparable to MH in terms of product on the LAX route until recently, when they inducted the 777-300ER. Now they are on par with EK, CX, etc. But yes, the choices are going down and EK knows it can charge an arm and a leg from LAX to India, because they offer very fast connections...hopefully prices will go down with them introducing the A380

We'll see what happens in the end. But IMO EK definitely has a big advantage over the competition at this point in time.

Cheers, and thanks for taking the time to explain these things!


Best wishes,
Alex


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5225 times:

Nice report Alex! Thanks for posting.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A view of our A332 on its long journey to NRT and LAX:

Interesting that KE use only a 330 on their flagship KE 1 route, rather than something a bit more prestigious

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
However, I'm not entirely pleased with Korean's drink service procedure. As I said before, only water, OJ and coke were displayed on top of the carts. Furthermore, when M asked for water, the F/A indicated the miniature cup we were given. Not too good. One shouldn't have to insist to receive (more) water... certainly not on one of the world's best airlines. This never happened to me even on TAROM or Air Moldova.

Hm, that doesn't sound good. Smacks of ruthless cost cutting

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
More Soviet Union than anything else really... and this was not the last time I had this thought at LAX. Well, that's it, we passed through customs, exited to the rather chaotic landside at TBIT, and proceeded to our shuttle to the Sheraton Gateway hotel

When I went to TBIT in May, there was no queue at all at customs...straight through!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
even though we had the option of going to the restaurant in the LAX landmark building (don't know if you need reservations). It's such a pain to not be able to walk anywhere

I had lunch there a few weeks ago no reservations needed. Indeed, it's a hassle getting ariund the LAX area without a car



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Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5181 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 25):
Enough to see the Petronas Twin Towers?  

lol sadly no, we did get to look at it though  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 25):
We'll see what happens in the end. But IMO EK definitely has a big advantage over the competition at this point in time.

Cheers, and thanks for taking the time to explain these things!

No problem, its my pleasure  . I used to be a big fan of MH, so im happy to explain what has happened with them vis a vis LAX.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 25):

Well, that's nice of them. Always good to spend your layover relaxing in a hotel.

when i went with my family, they put us up at the Pan Pacific KLIA..all the other times it was some generic hotel near the airport, nothing too great to write about .


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