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LOT 763, E75, Warsaw And Copenhagen  
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Posted (10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11076 times:

LOT, Warsaw and Copenhagen

Hi everyone and thanks for reading my report! Comments and questions are always appreciated.

OK, you know how this goes—it was spring break, and I just had to go somewhere. Where could I go... Texas? Cancun? Other Spring Break destinations? Hell no. Why ever would I do that... I'm not interested in getting drunk. I decided, along with M, to go somewhere way more interesting.

Looking at one-way transatlantic flights to Northern Europe, three airlines stood out. These were LOT, Air Berlin and Icelandair.

Well, soon it was decided what we'd do. Fly with LOT from Chicago to Copenhagen via Warsaw. Also, we'd be returning with Icelandair, Keflavik to Boston. What to do in the middle? Good question. Well, after conferring, we decided to try Atlantic Airways. BOS-ORD would be done directly on JetBlue's E-190, a new aircraft type for me.

Here's the full trip summary:

LO 2, ORD-WAW, 763, 23MAR, SP-LPA
LO 461, WAW-CPH, E75, 24MAR, SP-LIF
RC 453, CPH-FAE, 319, 26MAR, OY-RCG
RC 401, FAE-RKV, AR8, 27MAR, OY-RCD
NY 166, RKV-AEY, F50, 27MAR, TF-JMR
NY 167, AEY-RKV, F50, 28MAR, TF-JMO
FI 631, KEF-BOS, 752, 30MAR, TF-FIA
B6 925, BOS-ORD, E90, 31MAR, N190JB

So, why these airlines? And why these destinations? Well, as I said before, price was a big factor. However, to get to the Faroes there's not much choice... Air Iceland is again the only airline flying on our required route to Akureyri. JetBlue offered me a nice new aircraft for the log... And LOT... was supposed to be a 787. Nevertheless, Poland is a new country for me. Icelandair was supposed to be a 753... and since I found out at the gate it wouldn't be one... I held a grudge against them for a couple of hours.

Anyway, that's about it for the introduction.

LOT's website didn't pose problems during booking, and for ~700$/person, the flights were booked. We were able to easily choose seats online on LOT's website... Of course, we had to change this when the 787 was officially downgraded to a 767. No problems whatsoever, yet again. Good job, LOT.

Well, once I was done with my final exams for the quarter, it was time to prepare for the long flight to Europe. Bags were packed, and, the next day, off we were to O'Hare. Since the University of Chicago Student Government can arrange airport buses for its students as well as I can speak Russian (I can say a few words), we finally decided to take a taxi to Jackson-Blue Line stop in downtown Chicago. The taxi driver was suspended for 4 hours because he took us instead of the guys who'd called him. He never asked us if we were who he was supposed to pick up. Then, we took the Blue Line to ORD, luckily with time to spare.

We then took the landside automated train to T5 and went to LOT's check-in desks. Not long after, we were helped by a nice check-in agent. Our bags were tagged to CPH and we were on our way to security control... which took a while. Once airside, I decided to explore T5 in detail, which I had never done. Not very interesting... Almost nothing there (although it seems that's finally changing). A few nice aircraft but nothing that interesting. Etihad and BA 777s...

T5 at ORD:


Inter-terminal transfer at ORD:


Well, afterwards, it was time to go to our gate and wait for the boarding process of this aging and supposed-to-be-retired 767.

Our LOT 767 to Warszawa-Chopin:


We waited until most others boarded before boarding the aircraft.

LO 002
LOT Polish Airlines
ORD-WAW
B767-300ER
SP-LPA
Seats: 24A and 24B

On board, I didn't really know what to expect. LOT doesn't have a great reputation, though I hadn't heard many horror stories either. While maintaining an Eastern-European flair, I found that the service was generally good.

The seats were alright, comfortable enough, though not particularly so.

Seatback view:


The blanket offered was one of rather good quality for airline standards. Definitely softer and plushier than, say, Delta's.

Blanket (looks quite comfortable):


Legroom wasn't all that great. For me it was enough... but, remember, I'm quite short.

Legroom (not too much):


Soon, it was time to leave for Warszawa. The 767 proceeded to active and, without the wait usually associated with evening departures out of O'Hare, took off.

Wing View upon entering the active:


They did manage to represent the right aircraft type on their safety cards. Well done, LOT.

Safety on board:


In-flight magazine depicting some priceless Faberge eggs.

Kaleidoscope magazine:


The headphones, on the other hand, appear to be from a different era. Perhaps, from a different planet entirely...

The very classy headphones:


Over Michigan, or possibly even Canada, the Sun decided to set on us, giving some rather nice views outside...

Sunset pic:


The meal, finally came. M ordered a special meal, so it came out first. It ended up being some sort of fish... and also some sort of chicken (the latter was quite tasty, btw).

M's fish:


My meal showed up as well, sometime later... You know what, it was good by airline standards. Not something for your mouth to water, but certainly eatable, unlike Delta's “food” on transatlantic sectors...

My chicken (not bad for an airline meal):


Also, the food boxes themselves were quite interesting. I like when airlines try to reduce the blandness from in-flight meals, even if only on the boxes.

I like this design, though some may say there's too much going on:


Since this flight was a night flight, I proceeded to sleep for a while. Of course, it's not like I had that many options. IFE was restricted to the monitor in the front of the cabin. No PTVs on this old bird, of course.

Breakfast was decent as well, although completely on the sweet side, which some may find unappealing... Also, some tea and some blackcurrant juice on offer.

Breakfast:


Tea and blackcurrant juice:


External design:


The cabin, while aging, and reminiscent of flights circa 2000 due to the seats' design, was kept reasonably tidy. This is in keeping with how Warsaw looks—quite tidy itself—no surprise, in retrospect.

Cabin view:


Finally, we were on approach to WAW, slowly descending to the frosty (and very cold) Polish countryside. Really cold. Of course, that's to be expected if you're crazy enough to go to Poland in winter.

Above Europe:


Still descending towards Chopin/Okecie airport.

Take 2:


Approach to WAW:


Aaand... touchdown at WAW on runway 33. Then, we headed towards the almost brand new terminal...

Control Tower:


Runway:


Star Alliance logojet:


Upon disembarkation, it's worthwhile to ponder whether I found LOT to be a good airline. Overall, I'd say yes. I haven't had to deal with any serious problems, but I find that everything was done well on LOT, on ground and in-flight. The F/A in charge of our sector was rather cold and I don't think I've heard her speak any English throughout the flight aside from asking what meal I'd like. That said, I don't really mind that, as long as everything is done well. Overall, my experience on LOT, at least so far, has been good.

WAW Airport:


What is my first impression of WAW?

Labyrinthine. Upon exiting our 767 we had to undergo many switchbacks and altitude changes to arrive at the arrivals level in Warszawa. Basically, there were many ramps we had to climb in order to reach this level, all in a rather warehouse feel... Unfortunately I didn't snap any pictures.

Classy new terminal:


That said, the terminal is brand new, and looks quite nice on the inside, even if it's (very) spartan. Passport control was quick. However, the queue for security heading to Schengen-flights here was... huge. I wouldn't want to wait in that. Since we didn't have to use it, I don't know how long it would take to go through. But it doesn't look good. We exited the arrivals level and, through the baggage claim area, we exited land-side. After grabbing a drink (and potentially some snacks to eat), we proceeded to the 175 bus, towards the Old Town. I believe you have to obtain the ticket before entering the bus, so that's what we did, not before M withdrew some zlotych from the ATM. Though I think you could pay with a card (don't quote me on that).

After 20-30 minutes, we reached central Warsaw (the airport here is decently close to the center). We proceeded to start walking through the bitter weather...

As I've mentioned before, Warsaw is a rather tidy city, at least in the central areas that I've seen.

Warszawa:


Here are some pictures I or M took while walking North on Krakowskie Przedmiescie towards the Castle Square..

Theater:


Castle:


Stadion Narodowy (People's stadium?):


Then, we proceeded further North, towards the Old Town Square. Nothing too brilliant to see around here... Of course, we didn't hang around for long due to the cold. It's probably packed in summer, even though Warsaw isn't a very traditionally touristic city.

We wanted to visit the castle, but some concert/other event prevented us to explore this castle in detail. The fact that we had our backpacks without didn't help the cause, as (especially) M didn't particularly want to leave her stuff at the coatroom (which wasn't very secure). So we got a warm citrus tea and left... Not before we weren't sure why we weren't allowed to exit the building (something to do with no drinks on the stairs? over the carpets?) due to the guard's lack of foreign knowledge skills.

Old Town Square:


After the Old Town, it was the turn of the New Town. Upon entering this area, we heard a guide talking in English... He was recalling how some previous tourist asked him about Warsaw, and whether “they're friendly there” if spoken to in English. The answer was along the lines of... “of course they're not friendly. They're not friendly to anyone”. Hah, some good old Eastern European mentality right there.

New Town Square:


After wandering around the New Town, with almost nothing around save for people exiting churches with buckets (it's pronounced bouquets) of flowers in their hands, we proceeded towards the Supreme Court building and the National Library. It was getting cold... some of us were getting hungry, others thirsty... We headed back to Krakowskie Przedmiescie and sat down in a little tea shop (Demmers Teehaus) for about an hour. We waited for a while before ordering our teas. The waitress was nice yet shy when speaking in English... though she spoke it quite well. Then, upon exiting this establishment and walking south, we noticed that some streets were closed to traffic and no buses were running. Looking back, we noticed a street demonstration. We quickened up the pace and found a traditional Polish restaurant, Przy Trakcie, to eat in, reasonably modern-looking and rather nicely decorated, again with a bit of Eastern European flair. While we were waiting on our food, the people marching in the demonstration walked by... Catholics against abortion, etc. Well, at least it wasn't something very likely to get violent. That said... This isn't something I like to see. Though, of course, they have every right to march.

My meal was good... some traditional dish, composed of pork with potatoes and cabbage. M enjoyed her fish (salmon?) dish as well. I was feeling quite tired and out of it by this point, but the meal set everything straight.

We walked down Nowy Swiat to the famous palm tree with its own website, and waited for the 175 bus back to WAW. Not long thereafter, we reached Chopin airport.

Some Sort of War Monument:


Palace:


Palm Tree in Winter on Nowy Swiat (New World) Avenue:


I like how clean central Warsaw was:


Overall, WAW was reasonably nice as a city, and very clean, though the weather was not the best. That said, I haven't particularly liked the people I've interacted with during this time. English was not spoken too widely, which in itself is not a bad thing... however, the tourist attractions (say, the castle) and the airport are two places where I'd expect better foreign language skills than exhibited...

Back to WAW:


At WAW, we proceeded to security, which was a rather daunting process. The people there couldn't or didn't want to speak much English... The instructions therefore weren't very clear. I had to remove my cell phone from my bag (first time this ever happened that I recall). M tells me she had to turn on her iPad... What is this, 2004? Haven't had to turn on an electronic device for ages now... She tells me the security guard wasn't sure that the iPad was, though this comment may have been in jest.

Later, FlyingFinn76 told me that, in fact, the security people in Polish airports are army people. Ah, that explains everything. From the lack of customer service to the imperfect knowledge of English... Anyway, along with CDG, I rank WAW among the worst airport security I've had to deal with... Worse than the TSA in my experience. Chisinau security was friendly in comparison, even though you might expect otherwise...

New but Empty:


FIDS:


More Terminal View:


WAW airport is brand new, due to the Euro2012 championships being held in Poland and Ukraine, but has a rather sterile feeling. I hear the same about KBP, though I have no personal experience on that front. There is free wi-fi for 30 minutes (I think) if you scan your boarding pass. The machines that give you the code don't tend to work that well, but in the end we managed to get two codes.

Soon enough, our machine, SP-LIF (hehe... too bad I don't like weed), arrived at the gate. Not much later, boarding was called.

LO 461
LOT Polish Airlines
WAW-CPH
Embraer E-175
SP-LIF
Seats: 07A and 07B

SP-LIF coming to take us higher on the way to CPH:


Well, we were both excited to finally be on our way to Copenhagen. Our flight left and arrived on-time. No complaints there.

On the outside, WAW's ugly:


The legroom on the E-175 may have been too small for the tallest among us, but was fine for me.

Not-that-great legroom on the E-175:


Seatback view:


Service on this 1-hour flight to Copenhagen would be a snack and a drink, on par with what you'd receive in the USA on Delta or Southwest. No comments, good or bad, regarding the crew. Overall, a pleasant sunset flight.

Krakowskie Talarki, the official in-flight snack of LOT:


We landed in CPH on runway 04L and taxied to the A concourse. Soon, we were out of the aircraft and in CPH's rather nice terminal. After proceeding to get our bags from the baggage claim, we headed to the train station, buying a ticket each for the train to Copenhagen. If I remember correctly there was no ticket control whatsoever, which is maybe what you'd expect from a laid-back society like the Danish one. This is based on trust, so buy your ticket anyway. Don't ruin a good thing.

A rather nice foreshadowing occurred at this airport. I'll let you figure out what that was  

Well, hallo there!


CPH gate area:


CPH:


Train to Copenhagen:


After 14 minutes, we arrived at Copenhagen Central Station. After a few purchases at the 7/11, we proceeded to our hotel, the Scandic Webers, a few blocks away. A nicely decorated hotel, in the Scandinavian style, though the bathroom fixtures were of poor quality. The room was nice, however. Friendly staff.

Not wanting to waste the precious little time we had in Copenhagen, we decided to take an hour walk around town, on Strøget particularly... A couple of night pictures are below.

Nightview:


Trumpet to the Moon:


Scandic Webers Hotel:


The next day, we decided to see the most interesting sights around Copenhagen, so we woke up early. After eating a hearty and delicious breakfast, we took our leave and proceeded north towards Strøget.

Entrance to Strøget:


On Stroget:


Our first destination in the city tour was Rundetårn, a former astronomic observatory, currently a nice place to see the city of Copenhagen (and some parts of Sweden) from above. We only gained access after a while since M's card didn't, at that time, have a chip. You see, the US is a bit backward in some situations... Even my Romanian card has had a chip since 2009 (my US one doesn't). Luckily, her bank now offers a chip-card.

Rundetårn:


View from the top:


Old and New:


After seeing the sights from Rundetaarn, we proceeded further north towards the Rosenborg Castle. We didn't go inside, as we had no special invitation from the Danish Royal family  However, the castle is located in the King's Gardens, which we explored for a bit—not too interesting in winter, however. Then, since it was in the way, we passed through the Botanical Garden. Another observatory was inside this Garden... You might have heard of Tycho Brahe... Denmark has a rather long history in astronomy. At first I thought his (Tycho's) statue was of Hamlet (which confused M, why would I say that?)...

Rosenborg Castle:


Kongens Have (King's Gardens):


Rosenborg again:


Next step was the long walk North to the Little Mermaid statue... After passing through some military barracks (this would possibly be punished with some sort of death in the USA   ) we reached the statue, not after drinking a refreshing hot chocolate and tea, respectively. Near the Little Mermaid was a huge man dressed as some sort of animal. An American tourist spoke my thoughts exactly: “when the fuck is the damn raccoon getting out of the way?”

Well, eventually, it finished posing, and got out of the way. Some tourists online complain about how small the little Mermaid is. Dear lads and lasses, do you know what the statue is called? The LITTLE Mermaid   Perhaps, you'd like it Texas-sized, for your viewing convenience? It's supposed to represent longing for the sea. Besides, who wants a giant mermaid staring at them? 

While the statue is nice enough, there's always a crowd. I can't imagine how it is in summer...

Next stop, the Anglican Church, a rather beautiful building on the outside. It was closed, so we don't know how it is on the inside.

Den lille havfrue (The Little Seagirl):


Anglican Church:


Then, the long journey back south, towards Amalienborg Palace. After seeing the rather weird pedestrian-car mix at Amalienborg, we headed one block west, to the Marmorkirken (Marble Church).

Amalienborg:


Marmorkirken:


Next stop, some food. A small place on Bredgade which served soups and sandwiches. Good, as you'd expect the food to be in Copenhagen. We also checked-in for our next flights here, if memory serves. This was two steps from Nyhavn, the New Harbor, which we proceeded to walk to afterwards. A nice place with interesting little buildings. A nice place to waste some of your free time.

Nyhavn:


Then we proceeded towards Christiansborg Palace. Some building (not directly) on the way featured this rather strange tower...

This is a weird tower:


The palace itself, with the Sun wanting to start its 12-hour nap...

Christiansborg:


We walked north on Laederstraede before reaching Stroget, and finding a small bistro on this main street. We probably paid a little bit more than we would've on other streets, but the food was good. I had the Steak and M some Sushi.

Steak and Fries at the Le President Bistro:


After a long day, it was time to head back to the hotel. The next day would see us in another interesting place...

Our hotel:


Again, after some breakfast, we visited Vesterbro during an one hour walk before taking the Oresundstag back to Kastrup airport... for a nominal fee.

Observatory:


Birds and a Frozen Lake:


Overall, I really liked Copenhagen. Warsaw was nice enough as well.

LOT surpassed my expectations, and provided good service on their transatlantic route. Nothing much differentiates it from other airlines on short-haul. On-time in both cases. Decent and user-friendly website, if not the best design. Friendly ground staff in ORD. Baggage delivered to the claim... on time. Positive overall. Really can't complain. The F/A didn't speak much but that's OK. I also saw some antique metal or silver-painted box that you might use to cage a chicken during the flight, carried by one F/A. I don't know what that was about, really.

Anyway, sure, thumbs up for LOT. M has another flight booked on LOT, so she enjoyed this airline as well.

Thanks for reading, and, as always, comments are appreciated.

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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 791 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10963 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I also saw some antique metal or silver-painted box that you might use to cage a chicken during the flight, carried by one F/A. I don't know what that was about, really.

Hey! Nice report, glad you enjoyed LOT. I flew on their 787 in December and loved the experience. In the process of arranging WAW-YYZ with them on the Dreamliner for July now.

I can't be sure but we have similar containers onboard - bar boxes for containing a myriad of things from glassware to drinks etc. We also have a caged container to house lavatory supplies.

Thanks
ThomasCook



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6640 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10633 times:

Hi dc9northwest,

very nice report with many good pictures! LOT's long-haul product doesn't look bad at all. Too bad you missed the 787, though.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

LO 2, ORD-WAW, 763, 23MAR, SP-LPA
LO 461, WAW-CPH, E75, 24MAR, SP-LIF
RC 453, CPH-FAE, 319, 26MAR, OY-RCG
RC 401, FAE-RKV, AR8, 27MAR, OY-RCD
NY 166, RKV-AEY, F50, 27MAR, TF-JMR
NY 167, AEY-RKV, F50, 28MAR, TF-JMO
FI 631, KEF-BOS, 752, 30MAR, TF-FIA
B6 925, BOS-ORD, E90, 31MAR, N190JB

That's a cool itinerary!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Icelandair was supposed to be a 753... and since I found out at the gate it wouldn't be one...

Another aircraft change, that's indeed bad. But FI operates just a single 753, so you never know until you see it parked at the gate.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

My meal showed up as well, sometime later... You know what, it was good by airline standards. Not something for your mouth to water, but certainly eatable, unlike Delta's “food” on transatlantic sectors...

Nice, that beats many transatlantic meals I have seen.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10382 times:
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Great report, dc9northwest!

My wife and I spent 1 week in Copenhagen back in September 2011 and loved it. Thank you for sharing! What a great city.

LOT looks alright, and not a bad way to cross the Atlantic.

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10227 times:

Hey Alex,

As you know, it's the next chapter of your trip that I'm mostly excited about but nonetheless I have to say that this first segment was delightful. Lovely photos from both Warsaw and Copenhagen. Great job!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The taxi driver was suspended for 4 hours because he took us instead of the guys who'd called him. He never asked us if we were who he was supposed to pick up.

Funnily enough the same thing happened to me in Fargo the other day. Good thing we figured out the mix-up early on and we picked up the people that had called him in the first place (who luckily enough were going to the same place I was so we shared the ride...).

So how did you find out that he got suspended?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Once airside, I decided to exploreT5 in detail, which I had never done. Not very interesting...

I'm surprised you had never done so. But yeah there is hardly anything to do/look at except the aircraft. Good thing they have some TVs and one can watch some sports while waiting but I know that this not your cup of tea.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The very classy headphones:

Was this their way of asking you to "play doctor"?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I like how clean central Warsaw was:

I can't stand faux Eastern Europeans .

That's great of course. Good for them. As I said, the photos from both cities were superb! Lots of lovely architecture!

Stojan



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9888 times:

Nice pics from Copenhagen and a good trip report over all  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
If I remember correctly there was no ticket control whatsoever, which is maybe what you'd expect from a laid-back society like the Danish one. This is based on trust, so buy your ticket anyway. Don't ruin a good thing.

This is a nice thought, but unfortunately not the truth. Seems like you were just 'lucky' not to meet anyone checking your ticket.


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9429 times:
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Good day Alex!

Nice report with equally nice pics. I’m sorry to say that LOT is an airline that has no appeal to me. I’ve flown them once (or twice) on BRU-WAW-RIX and I found the service to be so-so and the old B735 on BRU-WAW nearly fell apart. Also your B763 is one old lady. While flying such an oldie can be ‘on the cool side’, for a longer flight I would definitely prefer a somewhat more contemporary cabin. The meals look good though!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
s well as I can speak Russian

Oh can you? And what’s that got to do in this context may I ask  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The seats were alright, comfortable enough, though not particularly so.

Old and retro they are. But usually this equals quite comfy.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The very classy headphones:

Oh my, that’s really cheap stuff. I can’t imagine that thing keeps sticking in the ears  Wow!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I like when airlines try to reduce the blandness from in-flight meals, even if only on the boxes.

Good point! Those boxes are a nice welcome over the usual cover of thin foil...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
However, the queue for security heading to Schengen-flights here was... huge.

I had the same problem and I was connecting intra-Schengen where usually there is no extra security screening.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
M tells me she had to turn on her iPad... What is this, 2004?

Even in 2004 you did not have to turn it on. So many airports, so many different rules and regulations. Not good...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9297 times:

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 1):
Hey! Nice report, glad you enjoyed LOT. I flew on their 787 in December and loved the experience. In the process of arranging WAW-YYZ with them on the Dreamliner for July now.

Hi there!

Thanks for reading!

Let's hope the 787 will continue to grace our skies (safely) until after your trip  
Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 1):
I can't be sure but we have similar containers onboard - bar boxes for containing a myriad of things from glassware to drinks etc. We also have a caged container to house lavatory supplies.

Interesting. This particular cage looked quite antique...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Hi dc9northwest,

very nice report with many good pictures! LOT's long-haul product doesn't look bad at all. Too bad you missed the 787, though.

Hi PlaneHunter,

Thanks very much! I agree, LOT has been above average for me... Yeah, missing the 787 was a blow, but at least I had the time to get used to it unlike, unlike with missing the 753...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
That's a cool itinerary!

Thanks; I do my best  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Another aircraft change, that's indeed bad. But FI operates just a single 753, so you never know until you see it parked at the gate.

Very true...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Nice, that beats many transatlantic meals I have seen.

It was decently tasty.

Thanks again, PH!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 3):
Great report, dc9northwest!

Hi Matthew; thanks for reading!  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 3):
My wife and I spent 1 week in Copenhagen back in September 2011 and loved it. Thank you for sharing! What a great city.

LOT looks alright, and not a bad way to cross the Atlantic.

Copenhagen is pretty nice, even in the cold!

Agree about your assessment of LOT.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 4):
Hey Alex,

As you know, it's the next chapter of your trip that I'm mostly excited about but nonetheless I have to say that this first segment was delightful. Lovely photos from both Warsaw and Copenhagen. Great job!

Hey Stojan,

Thanks a bunch!

Yeah, I know you prefer the Faroes and Iceland  

Regarding the photos--a new and better camera helps 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 4):
So how did you find out that he got suspended?

They were telling him this through the radio and it was audible in the entire cab... A shame for him, I suppose, that's half a day of income...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 4):
I'm surprised you had never done so. But yeah there is hardly anything to do/look at except the aircraft. Good thing they have some TVs and one can watch some sports while waiting but I know that this not your cup of tea.

Don't be surprised... I had the lounge and Aristotle to keep me company the previous times 

I like sports, and I'll watch a good game of hockey... I'm not the biggest fan of basketball and Am. football... And I'll look at baseball like the average English major at quantum physics equations...  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 4):
Was this their way of asking you to "play doctor"?

I have good news and bad news.

Bad news: The headphones have died of old age.

Good news: I've saved 15% on car insurance by switching to [insert unnamed company here   ]

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 4):
I can't stand faux Eastern Europeans

Ah, but we are the faux Eastern Europeans! The Western Slavs and Baltic people are very clean... Warsaw, Bratislava, Riga, Tallinn, Vilnius (all considered EE by some) are very clean cities  

We're Balkan... mixing the worst of EE and the worst of Southern Europe 
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 5):

Nice pics from Copenhagen and a good trip report over all  

Thanks, AirPacific 747!

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 5):
This is a nice thought, but unfortunately not the truth. Seems like you were just 'lucky' not to meet anyone checking your ticket.

Lucky, unlucky, doesn't matter as long as you buy the tickets  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Good day Alex!

Nice report with equally nice pics. I’m sorry to say that LOT is an airline that has no appeal to me. I’ve flown them once (or twice) on BRU-WAW-RIX and I found the service to be so-so and the old B735 on BRU-WAW nearly fell apart. Also your B763 is one old lady. While flying such an oldie can be ‘on the cool side’, for a longer flight I would definitely prefer a somewhat more contemporary cabin. The meals look good though!

Good day to you too, Nils!

Thanks very much!

I'll have to disagree with you on one front... I find older cabins and older aircraft in general more comfortable (at least in Economy). I'm not a big fan of slimline seats, or the cramming in of more seats per row than envisioned by aircraft manufacturer (787).

The meals are indeed good.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Oh can you? And what’s that got to do in this context may I ask  

As I said--just a few words. Context? Psssh, context is overrated. Random ramblings is the way to go nowadays 
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Old and retro they are. But usually this equals quite comfy.

Ah, so I'm not disagreeing with you after all.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Oh my, that’s really cheap stuff. I can’t imagine that thing keeps sticking in the ears  

I wouldn't know  I value my hearing so skipped that.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
I had the same problem and I was connecting intra-Schengen where usually there is no extra security screening.

Really? That's no good. Why would they re-screen intra-Schengen passengers?

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Even in 2004 you did not have to turn it on. So many airports, so many different rules and regulations. Not good...

My mother was asked to do this a few times in the past. Maybe 2002-2004. Mainly in Paris and the States IIRC. I didn't have my personal laptop back then.

Cheers for reading, Nils!

And thanks again, everyone.


User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9239 times:

Hey dc9northwest!

Nice report here!
LOT looks quite good in my mind, better than I would expect.
The seats on the 767 arelooking very comfy, and even wider than on their 788 (3-3-3 config.)
Service also looks good, espacially the dinner you got.
Nice pics of Warsaw and Copenhagen also, I've been to WAW too in january, it was quite nice but really, really cold  

Thanks for sharing again

Elias


User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2088 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9089 times:

Hallo Alex!

Great TR! Glad to see you took some vacation and am looking forward to the next installments.

Shame that the LO 787 component didn't work out. Did you originally intend to fly the 787 prior to booking? Must have been a disappointment if so.

T5 is indeed underwhelming, but did you not see any signs of terminal improvement yet? I know they are refurbishing the interiors and that project is slated to be complete by Q3 2013.

The catering on LO doesn't look too shoddy, compared to prior reviews I've read. The design on the box is so typical LO, I noticed that their luggage tags that I retrieved at the T5 counter in ORD presents a similar scheme. Nice that they offer blackcurrant juice and tea as a differentiating factor on the breakfast service.

Thanks for the pics on WAW and CPH - two cities I'd proooooooooooobably avoid in the winter/spring haha. CPH/DK reminds me a lot of ARN/Sweden from the views.

Again, nice report! Talk soon.

-Irish/RA



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (10 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9051 times:

Hi Alex !

Thanks for a very nice report with very nice pictures !

LOT looks okay but nothing too special. The fish looks much better than the other meal.

Breakfast looks just like you'd get on a US carrier in Y which is okay but on the slim side.

Very funny with that old head seat! I had the same type on AA on their 763 about two years ago and I never knew that had something so old even on a 763! That's the type that was used in the 1980s and earlier on. I remember using those on TW''s L-1011s.. UA hasn't had anything that ancient in over 20 years. Even the old 762s had more modern headsets.

Warzaw looks nice and clean and Copenhagen looks nice but cold. Very brave of you to go there that time of year but you are used to Chicago so perhaps even warm for you there ?  

Very much looking forward to the next part!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8887 times:

Good trip report and pictures! I'm heading back to Poland this summer for my cousin's wedding, but unfortunately my parents didn't book with LO so I won't be able to try out their 787.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The people there couldn't or didn't want to speak much English... The instructions therefore weren't very clear.
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
From the lack of customer service to the imperfect knowledge of English...

I'm thinking this might be a remnant from the communist era, because back then they used to teach Russian as the second language but its since changed over to English. As a result its usually the younger folks who have a better grasp on English so hopefully this will improve as time goes on.



Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8780 times:

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
Hey dc9northwest!

Hey Elias!

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
LOT looks quite good in my mind, better than I would expect.

Definitely better than I expected. I'm glad I've flown them.

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
The seats on the 767 arelooking very comfy, and even wider than on their 788 (3-3-3 config.)

I hear that the seats on the 787 weren't that comfortable. Alas, I didn't get the chance to see if that's true.

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
Service also looks good, espacially the dinner you got.

Yeah, much better than I expected.

Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
Nice pics of Warsaw and Copenhagen also, I've been to WAW too in january, it was quite nice but really, really cold  

Thanks, Elias! Wow, WAW in January... I know how cold it was in late March--January must've been really bad  
Quoting Emek96 (Reply 8):
Thanks for sharing again

Thanks for reading!

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
Hallo Alex!

Great TR! Glad to see you took some vacation and am looking forward to the next installments.

Hi there R,

Thanks very much! Was working on it today, perhaps by tomorrow  
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
Shame that the LO 787 component didn't work out. Did you originally intend to fly the 787 prior to booking? Must have been a disappointment if so.

Well, the 787 made the decision easier but it wasn't the only reason I chose LOT... So it's ok.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
T5 is indeed underwhelming, but did you not see any signs of terminal improvement yet? I know they are refurbishing the interiors and that project is slated to be complete by Q3 2013.

I definitely did see signs of improvement--under the form of banners advertising for new eateries, etc.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
The catering on LO doesn't look too shoddy, compared to prior reviews I've read. The design on the box is so typical LO, I noticed that their luggage tags that I retrieved at the T5 counter in ORD presents a similar scheme. Nice that they offer blackcurrant juice and tea as a differentiating factor on the breakfast service.

Indeed they like that sort of design. And I find quite nice as well. They do seem to like their blackcurrant juice--Alitalia has good juices, but LOT has this covered as well. I have to say, I was impressed by the catering.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
Thanks for the pics on WAW and CPH - two cities I'd proooooooooooobably avoid in the winter/spring haha. CPH/DK reminds me a lot of ARN/Sweden from the views.

Maybe it's best to wait for summer in these two cities. The weather's less brutal in that case 
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 9):
Again, nice report! Talk soon.

Thanks, Irish!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Hi Alex !

Thanks for a very nice report with very nice pictures !

Hi L,

Thanks for reading my report!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
The fish looks much better than the other meal.

Presentation-wise, definitely. M liked it... you may recall I don't eat fish, so there's no direct comparison from my part.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Breakfast looks just like you'd get on a US carrier in Y which is okay but on the slim side.

I don't know what UA offers as breakfast, but it's better than DL's lame excuse--a banana (ok) and a weird McDonalds-like bagel and fake egg (I think)...  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Very funny with that old head seat! I had the same type on AA on their 763 about two years ago and I never knew that had something so old even on a 763! That's the type that was used in the 1980s and earlier on. I remember using those on TW''s L-1011s.. UA hasn't had anything that ancient in over 20 years. Even the old 762s had more modern headsets.

The seats definitely seem pretty old... Anyway, I thought UA/CO's 762 are (were?) rather new, almost 10 years newer than this bird, isn't that so? Of course the seats would be newer. AA did seem to be stuck in the past for a while (but maybe that's not such a bad thing).

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Warzaw looks nice and clean and Copenhagen looks nice but cold. Very brave of you to go there that time of year but you are used to Chicago so perhaps even warm for you there ?  

LOL. Warsaw was definitely colder than Copenhagen... Eh, Chicago is above freezing by that time of the year--but compared to Chicago winters, the temp. in CPH was mild.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):
Very much looking forward to the next part!

Thanks, The777Man. Hopefully, quite soon!

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 11):
Good trip report and pictures! I'm heading back to Poland this summer for my cousin's wedding, but unfortunately my parents didn't book with LO so I won't be able to try out their 787.

Thanks mke717spotter!

A shame you won't get to sample LOT's new 787. That said, at least whatever plane you'll be on will have a better chance of actually flying that day, so take heart in that  
Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 11):
I'm thinking this might be a remnant from the communist era, because back then they used to teach Russian as the second language but its since changed over to English.

Makes sense. As I said, I wouldn't expect English speakers in villages. Just at tourist attractions and the airport.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 11):
As a result its usually the younger folks who have a better grasp on English so hopefully this will improve as time goes on.

I'm sure it will. And it's better for everyone, not just for tourists. Of course that doesn't mean the people should stop speaking Polish or anything like that.

Thanks for reading, guys!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 12):
Anyway, I thought UA/CO's 762 are (were?) rather new, almost 10 years newer than this bird, isn't that so?

Yes, the ex-CO 762s were fairly new; I was talking about the 762s that UA took delivery of in 1982....The IFE on those were much better and newer than what you had on LOT and on AA's 763s.....

UA was the first airline to take delivery of a 767, on 19 August 1982.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8379 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Yes, the ex-CO 762s were fairly new; I was talking about the 762s that UA took delivery of in 1982...

Ah, way before my time! I see.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
The IFE on those were much better and newer than what you had on LOT and on AA's 763s.....

Interesting. The IFE on LOT was sub-par, but I guess the one on the 787 is far superior.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
UA was the first airline to take delivery of a 767, on 19 August 1982.

Ah, I remember seeing a picture of that bird in an aviation encyclopedia, but I had forgotten all about it!


User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 months 1 day ago) and read 8344 times:

Great trip report, I'm glad you liked Copenhagen!  

Note, you didn't pass through the miliatry barracks at Rosenborg Castle! If so, some soldiers have some stuff to answer for! hehe! I served my draft there.  


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 months 1 day ago) and read 8330 times:

Quoting Fallap (Reply 15):
Great trip report, I'm glad you liked Copenhagen!  

Note, you didn't pass through the miliatry barracks at Rosenborg Castle! If so, some soldiers have some stuff to answer for! hehe! I served my draft there.  

Thanks, Fallap--I did indeed enjoy it!

Nope, you're right--it wasn't at Rosenborg, sorry if that's what I said--it was at Kastellet, right next to the Lille Havfrue   Of course, I'm not sure what the situation is, there, but it was a military installation of some sort!


User currently offlineFallap From Denmark, joined Jan 2009, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 months 23 hours ago) and read 8308 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 16):

Ahh yes the Citadel or Kastellet as it's called here, I have very fond memories about guarding that place hehe! It was named "The Hotel" among us, since it was the easiest place to stand guard.  


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 months 18 hours ago) and read 8198 times:

Hi there,

Nice report and good pictures. I think that LO will improve the pax enperience on long haul flight with 787, but their 767s should be gone by now. Warsaw is not very touristy as it was mostly leveled by Nazis during WWII. Some things were rebuild others replaced by the grey apartment blocks and recently skyscrapers. I think there are better places in Poland than Warsaw...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
While maintaining an Eastern-European flair

Not sure what it is....

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The blanket offered was one of rather good quality for airline standards. Definitely softer and plushier than, say, Delta's.

Nowadays, most airlines do not offer blankets.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
They did manage to represent the right aircraft type on their safety cards

I've never seen one that was not correct (unless it was supposed to be a joke on your part).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
I like this design, though some may say there's too much going on:

Not too crazy about the design, but I would say it looks classy.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
IFE was restricted to the monitor in the front of the cabin

Please those flip monitor/boards belong to the Smithsonian....Hopefully, IFE on 787 will compensate for that.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Labyrinthine. Upon exiting our 767 we had to undergo many switchbacks and altitude changes to arrive at the arrivals level in Warszawa

I think this is due to non-Schengen to Schengen. Toronto has this as well you go one level up in order to go two levels down....

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Stadion Narodowy (People's stadium?):

Narodowy translates as National not people's

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Some Sort of War Monument

Warsaw Uprising Monument

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Finally, we were on approach to WAW, slowly descending to the frosty (and very cold) Polish countryside

You make it sound like you were going to Siberia. It is winter half of Europe is cold. The average temp for Warsaw in January is 27F I know it is much colder in Chicago....


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 months 8 hours ago) and read 8049 times:
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Hello there Alex,

Another great beginning to a stunning itinerary! Loved your pictures of Warsaw and Copenhagen, very nice  
LOT's service surprises me here, very impressive. The food looks quite nice too. I think LOT is pretty happy they can fly their 787s again  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
LO 2, ORD-WAW, 763, 23MAR, SP-LPA
LO 461, WAW-CPH, E75, 24MAR, SP-LIF
RC 453, CPH-FAE, 319, 26MAR, OY-RCG
RC 401, FAE-RKV, AR8, 27MAR, OY-RCD
NY 166, RKV-AEY, F50, 27MAR, TF-JMR
NY 167, AEY-RKV, F50, 28MAR, TF-JMO
FI 631, KEF-BOS, 752, 30MAR, TF-FIA
B6 925, BOS-ORD, E90, 31MAR, N190JB

Very nice itinerary, very much looking forward to those reports!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The headphones, on the other hand, appear to be from a different era. Perhaps, from a different planet entirely...

Haha, wow seriously? Those were the headphones :O

Thanks for sharing!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 months 5 hours ago) and read 7954 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
Hi there,

Nice report and good pictures.

Thanks WROORD!

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
I think there are better places in Poland than Warsaw...

That's what I hear.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
Nowadays, most airlines do not offer blankets.

On long-hauls, they do, except the low-cost ones...

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
I've never seen one that was not correct (unless it was supposed to be a joke on your part).

Not on LOT, but read my KE reports to see what I mean...  
Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
Please those flip monitor/boards belong to the Smithsonian....Hopefully, IFE on 787 will compensate for that.

Yeah, they do... I do hear the 787 IFE is great, though.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
Narodowy translates as National not people's

Ah, OK, thanks for the info.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 18):
You make it sound like you were going to Siberia. It is winter half of Europe is cold. The average temp for Warsaw in January is 27F I know it is much colder in Chicago....

Sure, but this was late march, and it was much colder than 27F when I got there. Maybe it was 27F by the end of the day.

Thanks for reading!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 19):
Hello there Alex,

Hey Brendan!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 19):
Another great beginning to a stunning itinerary! Loved your pictures of Warsaw and Copenhagen, very nice  

Thanks very much, man!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 19):
LOT's service surprises me here, very impressive. The food looks quite nice too. I think LOT is pretty happy they can fly their 787s again

Yeah, LOT surpassed my expectations as well. Have you ever tried them?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 19):
Very nice itinerary, very much looking forward to those reports!

Thanks again, Brendan!

Cheers and thanks for reading, guys.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (10 months 1 hour ago) and read 7846 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Ah, way before my time! I see.

I had some nice flights with them in the late 1990s.

UA flew them until 2004 or so before they were all retired.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7742 times:

Thanks for sharing. That 767 is really old   Love the headphones, I guess these are tubes were the music/audio is "played" through, right? Remember them from my long haul flights to Asia when I was kid  
Love the overhead projector, too  
I understand LOT haven't planned to have them in service and did not refurbish them, so I wouldn't blame them. Had the chance to be on their 787 and found if pretty good.

WAW airport I found quite easy to navigate through, but never been non Schengen side. Comprared to the old cramped and small building it's great, although indeed a bit sterile. I do especially not like when airports use steel/iron benches, why not put a bit upholstery? Anyway not a too bad airport. Didn't had any issue with security to be honest and here in Europe it does happen quite regulary to me (although not often) that I need to turn on my netbook....


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7658 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):

I had some nice flights with them in the late 1990s.

UA flew them until 2004 or so before they were all retired.

Really? That late? I didn't know.

I flew a United 763 in 2003, though.

Quoting reifel (Reply 22):

Thanks for sharing. That 767 is really old   Love the headphones, I guess these are tubes were the music/audio is "played" through, right? Remember them from my long haul flights to Asia when I was kid  

Thanks for reading--yeah that's right. Quite low-tech!

Quoting reifel (Reply 22):
I do especially not like when airports use steel/iron benches, why not put a bit upholstery?

Me neither... It looks cheap, tacky and low-cost!

Quoting reifel (Reply 22):
I understand LOT haven't planned to have them in service and did not refurbish them, so I wouldn't blame them. Had the chance to be on their 787 and found if pretty good.

Yeah, I agree here, not their fault.

Quoting reifel (Reply 22):
Didn't had any issue with security to be honest and here in Europe it does happen quite regulary to me (although not often) that I need to turn on my netbook....

As I said, I remember it happening in Paris, but not for a looong time  

Cheers!

Alex


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7573 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 23):
Really? That late? I didn't know

They were used on trans-cons like LAX/SFO-JFK, BOS-LAX, IAD-LAX, BOS-SFO. You wouldn't have seen the 762s in ORD...

The 762s were also used for international flights and I flew on a 762 IAD-BRU in May96. In the 19080s, they were also used on routes like ORD-LGB (!!) and DEN-LGB (!).

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 23):
I flew a United 763 in 2003, though.

UA got their first 763 in 1990 I think.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 25, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7545 times:

Hello Alex

Interesting to read about LOT's longhaul service! Seat comfort looks a bit on the basic side. However that will change with the 787-800! Catering looks good however.
Looks like LO does a good job on the European segment as well

greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 26, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6750 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):
The777Man

Thanks for the info, L.!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 25):
Hello Alex

Interesting to read about LOT's longhaul service! Seat comfort looks a bit on the basic side. However that will change with the 787-800! Catering looks good however.
Looks like LO does a good job on the European segment as well

greetings
Marc

Hi Marc!

Thanks... In fact I found the old seats decently comfortable... And I hear most people weren't pleased with the seats on the 787! Catering was definitely above expectations!

Cheers,
Alex


User currently onlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5011 posts, RR: 55
Reply 27, posted (9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6717 times:

Hi, A.,

good to follow you´re trip across the pond on the classic LO 763 and further to CPH.
Nice destination pictures, that´s the way how I like it, well done.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6307 times:

Great report! LOT looks decent enough transatlantic, and nice to have a stopover in Warsaw. One day is more then enough to visit the city. Interesting comment about the security - I flew to WAW a couple of times per year for work and I have never had any problems with them. Great pictures of Copenhagen too - I love that city!

User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 29, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 27):
Hi, A.,

good to follow you´re trip across the pond on the classic LO 763 and further to CPH.
Nice destination pictures, that´s the way how I like it, well done.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Hello again, Markus,

Thanks very much again!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 28):
Great report! LOT looks decent enough transatlantic, and nice to have a stopover in Warsaw. One day is more then enough to visit the city.

Thanks, Robert! Yeah, I guess I agree.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 28):
Interesting comment about the security - I flew to WAW a couple of times per year for work and I have never had any problems with them. Great pictures of Copenhagen too - I love that city!

I don't know if it was a problem per se with security, but just (very) customer-unfriendly.

Thanks again, Robert


User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4690 posts, RR: 4
Reply 30, posted (9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4908 times:

Hi Alex

Thank you for the fantastic report!

LOT looks pretty decent, I like the look of those food boxes.

While it is a pain about the 787, sometimes it is kind of cool to get the full "1990 experience". Until about 6 months ago the Qantas 767 fleet were similarly ancient, and a couple of years back I flew one SYD-HNL [they are used for solely for domestic plus this one leisure route]. On the one hand it was really frustrating that a quality carrier with an otherwise superb longhaul product flew such a ratty old aircraft, on the other it was a real blast from my childhood! In the 90s, aged about 5-10, we flew CO DC10s a lot, and I got a bit sentimental for the old times during that flight!

Copenhagen looks like a really nice city. I've heard good things about it before, so I should definitely add it to my list of places to visit. Your pictures are really beautiful, and its good that the city is so easily walkable.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
An American tourist spoke my thoughts exactly: “when the fuck is the damn raccoon getting out of the way?”

Well, eventually, it finished posing, and got out of the way. Some tourists online complain about how small the little Mermaid is. Dear lads and lasses, do you know what the statue is called? The LITTLE Mermaid   Perhaps, you'd like it Texas-sized, for your viewing convenience? It's supposed to represent longing for the sea. Besides, who wants a giant mermaid staring at them?

I don't know which bit got to me, the racoon suit, the American tourist, or your response, but this had me laughing so hard that I got coffee all over my keyboard!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
the castle is located in the King's Gardens, which we explored for a bit

This is the first time that I've seen any pictures of the castle or its gardens, but I've heard about them before. Back in 1967 my dad and his friend met then King Frederick IX in the gardens. They were just strolling around like you were, and he came up to them and started chatting to them! As my dad said, there is probably no way that would happen today. A couple of days later they were walking through the gardens again, when the King cycled past on his bike (!). He recognised them, and shouted out "Aahh, the boys from Brentwood" [the town in England they were from]. Truly bizarre!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
We only gained access after a while since M's card didn't, at that time, have a chip. You see, the US is a bit backward in some situations... Even my Romanian card has had a chip since 2009 (my US one doesn't).

Yes, it's strange that the US is backward on this. My US bank card doesn't have a chip on it, even though my Australian one has had it for ages, and the UK has had them for as long as I can remember.

Last year, me and the other half crossed the border to Canada. In the first shop we paid in we both almost fainted with shock when they had what in Australia we would call an EFTPOS machine (I'm not sure what the European or Canadian word is) - the machine where you insert the chip in the bottom and then punch your PIN on the keypad.

Sensing that we were both startled, the guy said "Eet iz for ... er, cad" (we were in Quebec), to which I said "Ils n'existent pas aux Etats-Unis". This was clearly news to him, and his facial expression suggested that I had just informed that the USA had been moved to Mars!


One final [totally strange] comment, I really like M's shoes!

Regards,
Alex



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User currently onlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2650 posts, RR: 25
Reply 31, posted (9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Hello!

Nice report, thanks for sharing your LOT experience, the 767 sure looks aged and those headphones look more like a doctor´s stethoscope than headphones lol.

I think when I flew LanChile in 1999 they had similar ones.

WAW looks nice-ish but shame about the Security guys, that happens in a lot of places as well, and I agree that a certain level of English must be had in order to work in such jobs, but learning a few phrases of the language could also help us, even if it´s just ¨hello¨ ¨please¨ and ¨Thank you¨

CPH also looks nice, I heard is quite small and can be covered easily on foot, now I am interested in going there lol.

Cheers
MIAspotter.



I think, therefore I don´t fly Ryanair.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 32, posted (9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Hi Alex

Thank you for the fantastic report!

Hey Alex,

THanks for reading and commenting  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
While it is a pain about the 787, sometimes it is kind of cool to get the full "1990 experience". Until about 6 months ago the Qantas 767 fleet were similarly ancient, and a couple of years back I flew one SYD-HNL [they are used for solely for domestic plus this one leisure route].

I guess it is cool indeed... And you know, the 787... Sour grapes. I'm not particularly inclined to fly on one now and it has nothing to do with perceived safety  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
On the one hand it was really frustrating that a quality carrier with an otherwise superb longhaul product flew such a ratty old aircraft, on the other it was a real blast from my childhood! In the 90s, aged about 5-10, we flew CO DC10s a lot, and I got a bit sentimental for the old times during that flight!

I don't mind old aircraft at all. That said, quite a few DL 763's I've flown on years ago have been quite ratty, so I know what you're getting at... But yeah, it's good to bring back memories of childhood.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Copenhagen looks like a really nice city. I've heard good things about it before, so I should definitely add it to my list of places to visit. Your pictures are really beautiful, and its good that the city is so easily walkable.

It is quite nice... Keep in mind... You might wanna go sometime between May and October, especially if you're used to Australian temperatures. It is walkable, indeed, but I tend to walk a lot on my travels.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
I don't know which bit got to me, the racoon suit, the American tourist, or your response, but this had me laughing so hard that I got coffee all over my keyboard!

Hah, glad to be of service.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Back in 1967 my dad and his friend met then King Frederick IX in the gardens. They were just strolling around like you were, and he came up to them and started chatting to them!

Interesting. I've heard before that Scandinavian royalty is a lot closer to the people than those in other countries... the so called "Burger Kings and Queens", no relation to the fast food place...

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
A couple of days later they were walking through the gardens again, when the King cycled past on his bike (!). He recognised them, and shouted out "Aahh, the boys from Brentwood" [the town in England they were from]. Truly bizarre!

Wow, that's a bit unexpected. I wouldn't imagine a King would recognise everyone he meets, even a few days later. I suppose that's quite the story  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Last year, me and the other half crossed the border to Canada. In the first shop we paid in we both almost fainted with shock when they had what in Australia we would call an EFTPOS machine (I'm not sure what the European or Canadian word is) - the machine where you insert the chip in the bottom and then punch your PIN on the keypad.

Well, I've heard EFTPOS before... It's strange that say, here in Switzerland, you can definitely use a non-chip card in most places where you can use a card in general. However, in France it seems to be much more difficult to do so. It's strange also that in some cases you swipe your card and have to sign, even if you do have a pin code!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Sensing that we were both startled, the guy said "Eet iz for ... er, cad" (we were in Quebec), to which I said "Ils n'existent pas aux Etats-Unis". This was clearly news to him, and his facial expression suggested that I had just informed that the USA had been moved to Mars!

Haha. I bet that was a "great" experience for everyone involved. In any case, I believe the chip and pin system is much more secure. I don't remember anyone checking if my signature matches the card, recently. Oh... and my US debit card isn't even covered in Verified by Visa... I tried but it doesn't work. Truly bizarre if you ask me.

Thanks for your comments, Alex!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
Hello!

Nice report, thanks for sharing your LOT experience, the 767 sure looks aged and those headphones look more like a doctor´s stethoscope than headphones lol.

Hi MIAspotter,

Thanks for your comments! Yeah, the 767 was on its way out, as well as the headphones... hopefully   And yeah, I agree they're more like stethoscopes than anything else.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):

WAW looks nice-ish but shame about the Security guys, that happens in a lot of places as well, and I agree that a certain level of English must be had in order to work in such jobs, but learning a few phrases of the language could also help us, even if it´s just ¨hello¨ ¨please¨ and ¨Thank you¨

Completely agree... It'd be useful, particularly in places with a nearly impossible language for foreigners  
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
CPH also looks nice, I heard is quite small and can be covered easily on foot, now I am interested in going there lol.

As you should be--Copenhagen is a very nice place to spend a few days, assuming one can afford it 

Cheers, and thanks again!

Alex


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5014 posts, RR: 55
Reply 33, posted (9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
LOT's website didn't pose problems during booking, and for ~700$/person, the flights were booked. We were able to easily choose seats online on LOT's website... Of course, we had to change this when the 787 was officially downgraded to a 767. No problems whatsoever, yet again. Good job, LOT.

= LOT should be praised on this as it seems to have improved significantly. Back in the day, I tried, and then gave up!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The headphones, on the other hand, appear to be from a different era. Perhaps, from a different planet entirely...

= Wow. You should have grabbed those ones. They seem to be from a different era and could probably be sold at eBay for a premium.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The F/A in charge of our sector was rather cold and I don't think I've heard her speak any English throughout the flight aside from asking what meal I'd like.

= Not good at all.

Thanks a lot for sharing. I am looking forward to the Faroe Island segments. It seems LOT performed as was expected from them.

Saludos,
Alex



Live, and let live.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 34, posted (9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

Hi Alex, and thanks for your comments!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
LOT should be praised on this as it seems to have improved significantly. Back in the day, I tried, and then gave up!

True. I was slightly surprised, but indeed I had no problems whatsoever. Of course, M bought the tickets, but she'd've told me if something went wrong during booking. She still has a grudge on Blue Air's website (which I personally don't find terrible, just below average).

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
Wow. You should have grabbed those ones. They seem to be from a different era and could probably be sold at eBay for a premium.

Hmm... I didn't think of a profit when looking at them. Maybe they would've made for nice decoration in the house, though 
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
Thanks a lot for sharing. I am looking forward to the Faroe Island segments. It seems LOT performed as was expected from them.

Thanks again for replying, Alex. Here's the Faroes segment for your reading pleasure: Føroyar Og Atlantic Airways: Tórshavn, A319, RJ85 (by dc9northwest Jun 21 2013 in Trip Reports)

Yeah, LOT was quite decent in my view. I'd fly them again.


User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1689 posts, RR: 18
Reply 35, posted (9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4221 times:

Hi Alex

I finally managed to get round to having a read through your trip report. So first of all, thanks for posting. I really enjoyed the pictures and reading about LOT's long-haul product. Looking at your pictures it's kind of like going through a time warp, what with the kind of old-fashioned style of the seats and cabin and those positively ancient earphones. Very retro. I had a pair of such earphones once on a China Eastern MD-11 flight from Beijing to Pudong.

The food itself actually looks surprisingly good, but I have to say I don't really much like the presentation of the entire meal in those boxes. And I agree, there really is way too much going on with that pattern on the inside of the box.

Cheers,
William


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