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So Close Yet So FAR. Fargo, North Dakota  
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12182 times:

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Background

After a couple of years of flying with Star Alliance partners I managed to accumulate a bunch of points in my UA Mileage Plus account. As many of you know this is somewhat ironic as I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United. However miles are miles and I was happy to have enough for a roundtrip award trip (albeit in the rather inflexible "saver award" category only). I was eager to use these miles as soon as possible because the more they stayed in my account the more inclined I was to keep accumulating them (i.e. keep flying United). I had to stop being a hoarder, purge those miles and move on...

The obvious question was where to fly to. Due to the relatively limited number of miles I possessed I was restricted to destinations within a 700-mile radius from my starting point (Chicago). Initially I examined options like OKC, OMA, and a bunch of East Coast airports. However, I was craving something more unusual. Then I thought about FAR (Fargo, North Dakota). FAR was appealing for a number of reasons: It was remote and thus "exotic", the airport was right next door to an Aviation museum, plus I had never been to North Dakota before.


Booking

While booking my flights I noticed that UA offered 4 direct flights from ORD to FAR, but in addition to those I was also given the option to fly back to ORD via DEN (the 700-mile radius rule does not apply to connecting airports). This was a very appealing option given that I'd never been to DEN before. However, this plan required a relatively early departure from FAR, thus ruining my plans to explore Fargo to the extent I wanted. As much as I liked the idea of flying via DEN, I was not interested in squeezing a bunch of flights in my day without the opportunity to explore any of the destinations. Somewhat half-heartedly I decided to ditch the idea of flying via DEN and booked a simple ORD-FAR-ORD itinerary. The plan was to fly out there on an ERJ-145, stay in town for around 8 hours and then fly back on a CRJ-200. Checking United's website I noticed that this itinerary would have cost a paying customer a whooping $1162! If one had to guess where FAR was on the basis of this price, one would think it was indeed very far away...

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Here is the complete map of my summer's Midwestern wanderings, featuring the states visited (or to be visited). In red, the segment reported here


   And here's the first segment of my Midwestern Summer series: Who Said That Flying SUX?


Pre-Flight

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I wanted to blend in with the locals at Fargo so I chose to wear a shirt featuring the Norwegian flag. More than 40% of Fargo's population can trace their ancestry back to Scandinavia, and Norway in particular


My flight to FAR was on an early Sunday morning. I deliberated as whether to take a taxi or rely on the somewhat slow and very infrequent (especially on Sundays) public transportation. I went with the latter and this almost cost me my flight. Despite the complete lack of traffic the bus driver went 10mph the entire way, and because of that I missed my connecting train to the airport. Eventually I got to ORD just 90 mins before my flight (possibly my personal record for late arrival at any airport). The lines at security were the longest I've ever seen in ORD (that says a lot) and moved at a snail's pace. Long story short, I barely made it through. I won't complain about the way security screenings happen at ORD because I have done so too many times already.

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Thanks to the stupid bus I'm not. Thanks for reminding me



Flying to Somewhere FAR Away

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Having gone past security, I sighed in relief and tried to relax again. No time for spotting though; boarding was about to be called at any moment. Our aircraft (operated by ExpressJet) was behind a double jetbridge so I never got to see its registration.

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Are you my chariot? No you are not.


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United Express and AA were the only carriers I could see from where I was sitting


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Of course. Here is my boy hidden from view behind a double jetbridge. Seriously why do jetbridges hate me so much lately?


When boarding was announced, we were told that there would be only 12 of us. I had a Group 3 boarding pass but given that nobody was in Groups 1 and 2, I was the first to board the plane. I got to my seat, put my bag on an overhead bin and relaxed. I have the feeling that more than 12 people got on board (maybe 18 or so) but nonetheless the aircraft was pretty empty. Once the door closed I moved from 10A to 7A so that the closest person to me was 3 rows away.


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The joy of boarding first


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Very decent pitch, certainly comparable to that of American Eagle's ERJ-145s


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Peeking at the cockpit just in case the registration was on display (like it is on American Eagle ERJs). It wasn't visible from where I was sitting though


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I love the look of CargoLux's jumbos


Pushback was on time, a quick taxiing to runway 32 and a smooth and effortless take off, no doubt assisted by the light load. Initially we headed north along Lake Michigan until we reached Milwaukee and then turned west, past central Wisconsin and on our way to Fargo.

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Taking off was smooth and effortless


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Flying over Chicago's northern suburbs


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Continuing our ascend over Wisconsin


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The potential subject of my next report: MKE


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These winglets look pretty nice


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Flying over Madison, the capital of Wisconsin, and its airport MSN



The young female flight attendant was very friendly but also efficient during the drink service. I got myself some orange juice and spent the rest of the flight enjoying the views. Thankfully there were hardly any clouds. For much of the way we followed the Mississippi River north, making it easy to orient myself. We flew directly over the twin cities of Minneapolis and St.Paul but after that I lost track of our position for all I could see were innumerable small lakes and ponds as far as the eye could see. Minnesota calls itself "Land of 10,000 lakes", but I think they are selling themselves short.

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My choice of refreshment


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Not many airports can claim to be located on a Mississippi River island. Here is LSE serving the the town of La Crosse, Wisconsin


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Some entertainment


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Possibly my favorite airport in the entire country: MSP


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Downtown Minneapolis


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Enjoying the empty cabin



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Land of 10,000 lakes? You betcha.



I wasn't sure which side of the aircraft would give me the best view of Fargo during landing but I suspected it would be the right so I moved to a seat on that side. At the very last moment however I realized that we would loop around Fargo to land from the north so I switched sides again... I'm sure the flight attendant did not appreciate this move but I'm a sucker for city views during approach/landing so I simply had to do it. Indeed, we ended up looping around Fargo and landed at FAR from the north.


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Here's Fargo and (at the bottom of the photo) the town of Moorhead, Minnesota.


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And here's FAR in the distance as we prepare to loop around it


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Moments before touchdown



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The cute little terminal and its 5 jetbrides


From some research I had done in advance, I knew that there were no buses that serve the airport and that there are usually only 1 or 2 taxis waiting outside. Wanting to make sure that I got one of these taxis I marched to the arrivals area. I didn't even bother to look behind me to check if I could see the registration of our aircraft. No time to check out the airport either. This had to wait until later in the afternoon. Luckily I managed to get one of the taxis and headed for downtown.



Fargo, the friendly locals and the Norsemen

Fargo is the largest city in North Dakota and it's home to just over 100.000 people, many of which are of Norwegian or other Scandinavian descent. Witnesses to this are the names of local businesses like "Bjornson Oil", "Rasmusen Insurance", "Bergstrom Optics", "Gustafson & Son" and the existence of many Lutheran churches. I started my exploration from the Amtrak station on the north side of town.

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The Fargo Amtrak Station deserted at this time of day. The only trains that pass through here (trains traveling between Chicago and Seattle) do so at 2 or 3 in the morning


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Skywalks are quite popular here too, much like in Sioux City


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Fargo is home to North Dakota State University


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A weeping Buffalo?


I walked along Broadway Drive, one of Fargo's main drags, checked out its beautiful old buildings and then walked down to the river to chat with some of the fishermen there. I had a really nice chat with a Native American couple who was having a little fishing picnic by the river. They told me that they fish there very frequently and quite often they see deer, wild turkeys, beavers and other wildlife on the banks of the river. In general I found the locals to be very friendly and chatty. People would just stop and chat with me. It reminded me of Japan. This being Sunday, most streets were quiet but whenever I came across someone he/she would greet me verbally, or at least nod.


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The Red River of the North forms the border between Minnesota (left) and North Dakota (right)


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A tiny fishermen's pier extending into the river


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Several people were fishing at the river. A guy had just caught a Northern Pike (its head sticking out of the water is just about visible here). The first fish I ever caught was one of these toothy fellas


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A small replica of Lady Liberty. New York is one of my least favorite cities. The only reason I would go back there is to visit the Statue of Liberty. Now I don't have to.


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An old (and by the looks of it, grumpy) man and his boat


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Hard to believe that this is right next to downtown


After exploring the Fargo side, I decided to cross the river over to Moorhead, Minnesota, and check out the Hjemkomst Center, a museum dedicated to Norwegian heritage. The centerpiece of the museum is the Hjemkomst viking ship after which the place is named. It was built by volunteers under the guidance of Robert Asp (a local of Norwegian descent) and it was then sailed(!) to Norway back in the 80s ("Hjemkomst" means "homecoming" in Norwegian). Unfortunately Robert Asp did not live long enough to witness this feat. Another impressive part of the museum is Stavkirke, the replica of a Norwegian wooden church. A very friendly museum guide gave me a tour of both the boat and the church. It turned out he was originally from Iowa so we had a nice chat about how much we both love the Hawkeye state.

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Entrance to the Hjemkomst Center


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And here's the boat itself on the left. Very impressive, especially knowing that this thing crossed the Atlantic. On the right you can see the pillars found at the Veterans Memorial Bridge not far from the Hjemkomst Center


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Stavkirke is a replica of a wooden church located in the town of Vikøyri, Norway. Much like the Hjemkomst boat, this church was built by volunteers who wanted to preserve their Norwegian heritage


The tour guide told me that back in the day many churches of this kind in Norway were abandoned and used as barns instead. It's interesting to think how Norwegians always found ways to use churches for purposes other than the ones they were build, like storage or, in recent years, for firewood .

Having plenty more time to spend around town, I kept walking along the river, enjoying the tranquility of the place and the absolutely astonishing skies.

Continued Below



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

More photos from around Fargo and Moorhead

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I took a stroll through the woods and came across this cute guy. He wanted nothing to do with me though.


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An ORD-bound CRJ flying over downtown


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Walking by the river


Before heading back to the airport I stopped at a local sandwich joint to grab a bite. Two local octogenarians (both very hard of hearing) were chatting (understandably very loudly) on the table next to mine.

- Henrik, do ya know that model (sic) Rihanna, then?
- Eh?
- Rihanna,
- Oh yah...
- Don't ya know she was beaten up real bad by that jazz feller?
- Yah, yah...
- Yah, they were sayin that she may not model anymoor ya know...
- Oh yah...?
- Yah...


Their conversation progressed into a boastful exchange of names of recent(!) girlfriends and the size of their (and I quote) "boobers", at which point I decided I didn't want to eat anymore and left. I shared a cab with a lady also heading to the airport. I decided to give up on visiting the aviation museum because it was closing early on Sunday and I would have not had enough time to enjoy it at my own pace. Instead I thought that I should head to the airport a bit early so I can explore the terminal.



The dreaded CRJ200 ride home

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Approaching the road that leads to FAR's terminal building


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A replica of an old aircraft/glider hanging over the check-in area


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A nice representation of the Fargo-Moorhead metropolitan area, with the Red River illuminated, near the baggage carousels


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This phrase has become a trademark of Fargo (but also of much of Minnesota), popularized by the 1996 movie of the same name: Fargo


The FAR terminal is compact, yet spacious, and very clean. Agricultural equipment are on display in the check-in and baggage claim areas and a cute little gift shop can be found on the top level before security. Being rather tired from all the day's walking I decided to go past security and chill there. Like a total n00b I forgot to remove my belt during screening (normally I don't wear a belt when I fly so I forgot I had it on) so I felt a bit silly.

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The big windows at FAR allow you to enjoy the lovely skies


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A DL ERJ-170 on its way to MSP


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The departures area


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Pushback


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Spying on the pilots


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Off it goes


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This guy wants to go out and play with the big boys


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A United Express ERJ-145 just like one that brought me here (but not the same one - I checked)


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The old FAR terminal had a huge "FARGO" sign on the roof facing airside. The new terminal has those lame little signs above each gate



I had a ton of time before my flight so I walked around taking photos of the building and the parked aircraft. A TSA agent noticed my intense photographic activity so when I chose to set camp at a very quiet corner of the terminal (that had a great view to the runways) he approached me with a smirk on his face, as if to say "I got you". I told him about my hobby and how I like to take photos of aircraft and before I knew it our conversation progressed to one about cameras, lenses and film processing. Apparently he was really into old-school photography and wanted to talk about how photo enthusiasts used to do things back in the day. He wasn't as friendly as the TSA agent I had chatted with at SUX but nonetheless I enjoyed talking to him.

What I loved about FAR is that there are a couple of monitors showing (on a map) where all incoming and departed aircraft currently are. What a great idea! Not just for us enthusiasts but also for people wanting to know how long it would be before their aircraft arrives.

My flight back to ORD was meant to be only half full. However an American Eagle ERJ-145 meant for ORD went tech due to a problem with its left engine and many of its pax were re-booked on our flight, essentially filling the aircraft to capacity.


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Gotta love the skies in this part of the world


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A blackbird of some sort inspecting its turf


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After pushing back, this ERJ returned to the gate due to a problem on its left engine


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My gate


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ERJs are simply beautiful


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Having fun observing the various operations on the tarmac



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Another DL departure for MSP


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Just lovely


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Blackbirds were everywhere and were nesting in the jetbridges.


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Throwing some color in there



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A mechanic checking out the malfunctioning ERJ


Our CRJ-200 operated by SkyWest arrived (from ORD) barely 10 minutes before our expected departure. Nonetheless, everyone was off the plane and we were on it in less than 15 mins. The pilot explained that they experienced unusually strong headwinds on the way to FAR but told us that we should make up for the small delay due to the unusually strong tailwinds we would enjoy on the way to ORD.


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And here's the little ugly duckling that would take me back to ORD tonight.


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Getting ready for boarding


I was secretly dreading my flight back home because I didn't know how uncomfortable the CRJ-200 would end up being. In the end it was not all that bad but I'm not sure how I would have felt if the flight was longer. The seats, while not spacious, provided acceptable pitch. What was really annoying however was how low the windows were. My neck was sore by the end of the flight. Also it's crazy how small the overhead bins are - my half-empty backpack could hardly fit in one of them. No wonder CRJ-200s have their own hate club out there.

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Legroom was not as bad as I remembered it from my last trip on a UA CRJ-200.


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I was very grateful for this drink. I was very thirsty. The middle-aged flight attendant, while nice, she was a bit stingy with the drinks. She did redeem herself later on however by offering refills


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Another photo of the Twin Cities and MSP


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The further east we traveled the more clouds we encountered


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Flying over Southern Wisconsin Regional Airport (JVL) near Janesville


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One of Chicago's lesser known airports: The Chicago Executive Airport (PWK)


Like the pilot had promised, we more than made up for our delayed departure from FAR and in fact got at ORD so early that our allocated gate was not available yet. We ended up waiting for about 10 minutes on the taxiway before we were allowed to approach the terminal. Then the unthinkable happened. We were given a gate with no jetbridge. As anyone that has traveled extensively in the US should know, this is very rare, especially at ORD. I can recall only a handful of occasions where I had to walk on the tarmac to get to my aircraft in a US airport and half of them were when flying on a Cessna.


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A nice, albeit hazy, view of Chicago's skyline


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We got stranded for 10 minutes waiting for our gate to become available but at least we had the sunset to keep us entertained


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Finally taxiing to the terminal


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What do we have here? 787s look great. They do remind me a bit of tuna fish. Very bulky yet gracefully streamline at the same time


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Surely it can't be! Where is the jetbridge?


Final Thoughts


UA (or United Express to be more specific) did everything right this time. The flights were on time, comfortable and there were no major (or even minor) hiccups, unlike every other time I flew with them (especially on long hauls). I'm not sure whether to thank United or ExpressJet/SkyWest for that.

Fargo/Moorhead was a very interesting place to visit. I know these kind of small Midwestern towns are not everybody's cup of tea but I personally find them very intriguing. There is interesting history behind them, their people are very friendly (and not as backwards or conservative as it is often thought) and their airports are a joy to sample! When you experience all of this for free then how could I possibly have anything to complain about? Fargo may not be all that far away from Chicago, but in many ways it is a world apart from the stressful and often inhumane way everyday life is the big city. It is so close yet indeed so far away.

Thanks for reading,

Stojan



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User currently offlinemucdude From Germany, joined Mar 2012, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

Hi Stojan,

Very nice report! I especially enjoy your pictures. Looking forward to some more reports from you!

mucdude



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User currently offlineUnited1689 From United States of America, joined May 2013, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Awesome trip report! I like reading your TRs... thanks for taking the time to write them! Keep making these, 'cause I will be back!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
What do we have here? 787s look great. They do remind me a bit of tuna fish.

lol

-United 1689



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User currently offlineazstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11958 times:

Wow, thanks for this report. You really don't see many (any) trip reports from FAR. I used to go there frequently for business. I LOVE the place. It's Microsoft's second largest campus in USA (I think) and home to a variety of businesses, including one or two world headquarters (Bobcat, for example). The people are so friendly and accommodating, and downtown is filled with interesting galleries, shops, restaurants and the coolest 1920's art deco movie theatre I've ever seen.

User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11952 times:

Hi Stojan,
really great report you posted and the photos are fantastic, a great compliment to the written parts.

That house standing on it's own on the approach into FAR looks like my kind of way to live. Right under a flight path and nobody too close to you.

Looks like a good couple of flights, and yea, those CR200s are neck ache central.

Really enjoyed the read.
Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlinemarcos From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11864 times:

You really have fascinating reports on very exotic locations. SUX and FAR appeal just as much as Phuket or Penang.

Minnesota actually has 13,000 lakes larger than 10 acres.

Looking forward to your future posts on other nice, exotic towns!

Marcos from Minnesota.


User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2035 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11686 times:

Hi Stojan, nice report! I've often thought about visiting FAR as well... never been to either of the Dakotas!

The CR2 really becomes bad if flight time tops 90 minutes. I flew one ORD-HPN once and it was just about at that point. Any longer and I would have started to have problems. The ERJs are much more comfortable, especially if you can get the single-side side!

You should try Duluth next - just about the furthest-north city in the lower 48 states!


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 11580 times:

What's up, Mr. Stojan?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United.

You're not... I must've gotten confused. I thought you were their biggest fan!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Initially I examined options like OKC

I recently read that OK is the least visited state in the USA... You should give it a try.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
never been to North Dakota before

Need you say more? 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Checking United's website I noticed that this itinerary would have cost a paying customer a whooping $1162!

Fargo, or France?  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Possibly my favorite airport in the entire country: MSP

Gotta agree. MSP and DTW are mine.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
It's interesting to think how Norwegians always found ways to use churches for purposes other than the ones they were build, like storage or, in recent years, for firewood .

Ah, firewood. I'll take that any day over its intended purpose.

That said, as an architectural treasure, they shouldn't be destroyed.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Their conversation progressed into a boastful exchange of names of recent(!) girlfriends and the size of their (and I quote) "boobers", at which point I decided I didn't want to eat anymore and left.

LOL!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I know these kind of small Midwestern towns are not everybody's cup of tea but I personally find them very intriguing. There is interesting history behind them, their people are very friendly (and not as backwards or conservative as it is often thought)

Not my cup of tea indeed. Too small. I believe that there are more interesting places to visit. Though you should continue your quest to see all 50 states.

Cheers, Stojan, and thanks for sharing!


User currently offlineTigerguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11478 times:

'ello there again. Another nice look at a place off the beaten path you've got here.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Initially I examined options like OKC

Examine us a little more sometime! But be sure to drop by when it's not insanely hot.   

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Then the unthinkable happened. We were given a gate with no jetbridge. As anyone that has traveled extensively in the US should know, this is very rare, especially at ORD.

I suppose it depends on your luck. Or maybe where you're arriving from. I've had quite a few OKC-ORD flights that deposited me at the outside F gates. Not that I'm complaining, of course. Also had the same outside treatment from here to IAH and even DEN with E-Jets. That, combined with a few other factors, makes me think they like putting us at the end of whatever concourse. Again, not that I'm complaining; I enjoy the sights and smells and sounds.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
I recently read that OK is the least visited state in the USA...

Do you remember where you read that? I know I've seen North Dakota mentioned in that spot, but I didn't research too hard. With that said, I'm glad that we're working toward being a place that would be worth visiting. I definitely recall the not-too-long ago days when there was darn near nothing.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12250 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11428 times:
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Nice report. I live in Bismarck, so just down the road from FAR. Never been to FAR though, I always fly in and out of BIS.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I wanted to blend in with the locals at Fargo so I chose to wear a shirt featuring the Norwegian flag. More than 40% of Fargo's population can trace their ancestry back to Scandinavia, and Norway in particular

  



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User currently offlineBoston From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11209 times:

Nice trip report considering how much I dislike the Dakotas. I lived 65 miles north of Fargo in Grand Forks for 4 years. Horrible area to live, especially in winter time. I'm stoked you got to disembark without a jetbridge at ORD because I got to do that only one time also, considering I've flown the ORD-FAR route a couple times. Definitely makes up for having to ride on RJs.

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5571 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10963 times:

Thanks for the fantastic trip report! I enjoy reading all of your trip reports as I find something really quite enchanting about small towns and cities in "Middle America". Fargo looks like a place I should hit up some time  

but just not in winter   

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Stavkirke is a replica of a wooden church located in the town of Vikøyri, Norway

I've seen the original!

I was looking at that picture thinking "that looks somewhat familiar", but thought "well, I guess a church is a church" ... and then saw it was Vikøyri!

It's a beautiful part of the world and couldn't recommend a trip highly enough to anyone that was considering it.

When I was there I was told that the "vik" of "viking" comes from the name of this village. I don't know whether that's strictly true or not, but it makes for a nice story  

Happy flying, and I look forward to reading more from you!

Regards,
Alex



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User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 743 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10940 times:
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Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Surely it can't be! Where is the jetbridge?

Flying out of ORD in the 1970's, not all gates had jetbridges. I remember boarding AA and TWA 727's using stairs along with a BN BAC 111.
I flew ORD-LHR-ORD in 1987 and this was before the International Terminal was built. The airplanes would park near where the terminal was and we would be bussed to/from the airplanes. It was nice to get close to a 747 on the ramp.

Your pictures and trip report was very nice. Some great pictures from the air, especially of other airports and the lakes. I have never been to Fargo, but I have friends living in Moorhead MN, and they have assured me it does get very cold there in the winter. Much colder than Bangkok, for sure.

AA has started flying DFW-FAR-DFW, and I want to try that flight sometime.



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1161 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10840 times:
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Hi again Stojan,

Another great report you made on an airport/city that is barely covered here! You sure got some great views during flight (especially of all the different airports) and captured them nicely  
Glad to see nothing went wrong with you and United this time and Great pictures of Fargo/Moorhead, very interesting!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
As many of you know this is somewhat ironic as I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United

I actually didn't know that... 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Checking United's website I noticed that this itinerary would have cost a paying customer a whooping $1162! If one had to guess where FAR was on the basis of this price, one would think it was indeed very far away...

Wow, that is very expensive.. I was about to make the same joke you did  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I wanted to blend in with the locals at Fargo so I chose to wear a shirt featuring the Norwegian flag.

How nice of you!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Eventually I got to ORD just 90 mins before my flight (possibly my personal record for late arrival at any airport)

I usually always arrive 90 mins before my flight myself

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The lines at security were the longest I've ever seen in ORD (that says a lot) and moved at a snail's pace. Long story short, I barely made it through

Long live priorty lanes 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The potential subject of my next report: MKE

Was there back in March, quite an interesting airport..

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Possibly my favorite airport in the entire country: MSP

Agree, one of my favorite as well!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Land of 10,000 lakes? You betcha.

Great shot, it's amazing how many lakes there are in Minnesota..

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Moments before touchdown

Nice to see you captured a picture of my house 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Fargo is the largest city in North Dakota

That doesn't say much either  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
And here's the boat itself on the left. Very impressive, especially knowing that this thing crossed the Atlantic. On the right you can see the pillars found at the Veterans Memorial Bridge not far from the Hjemkomst Center

You mean the other way around..

Thanks once again for sharing!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

Thank you guys for all your comments so far. They are much appreciated.

Quoting mucdude (Reply 2):

Hi Stojan,
Very nice report! I especially enjoy your pictures. Looking forward to some more reports from you!
mucdude

Thanks mucdude! (by the way I'm flying through MUC 3 times this summer).

Quoting United1689 (Reply 3):

Awesome trip report! I like reading your TRs... thanks for taking the time to write them! Keep making these, 'cause I will be back!

Hey U-1689! I'm glad you enjoyed my report. I have set my eyes on a few other exciting destinations and if possible I'll try to write reports about them too.  .

Quoting azstar (Reply 4):

Wow, thanks for this report. You really don't see many (any) trip reports from FAR. I used to go there frequently for business. I LOVE the place. It's Microsoft's second largest campus in USA (I think) and home to a variety of businesses, including one or two world headquarters (Bobcat, for example). The people are so friendly and accommodating, and downtown is filled with interesting galleries, shops, restaurants and the coolest 1920's art deco movie theatre I've ever seen.

Hey azstar. Thank you so much! People often dismiss Fargo as being some "podunk" place but, like you mentioned, there is a ton going on (colleges, company HQs, lots of culture). I may have stayed there only a few hours but I loved the place.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 5):

Hi Stojan,
really great report you posted and the photos are fantastic, a great compliment to the written parts.
That house standing on it's own on the approach into FAR looks like my kind of way to live. Right under a flight path and nobody too close to you.
Looks like a good couple of flights, and yea, those CR200s are neck ache central.
Really enjoyed the read.
Cheers, Lee.

Thanks Lee, I appreciate it! You know, my wife said the same thing when she saw that photo. Wouldn't be nice to own such a place? Glad you liked the photos. I had lots of fun shooting away with my camera. Good thing that Fargo offered so much for me to take photos of!

Quoting marcos (Reply 6):
You really have fascinating reports on very exotic locations. SUX and FAR appeal just as much as Phuket or Penang.
Minnesota actually has 13,000 lakes larger than 10 acres.
Looking forward to your future posts on other nice, exotic towns!
Marcos from Minnesota.

Thanks Marcos! I love your state. One of my most memorable domestic trips ever was when my wife and I visited her uncle in Remer, MN (we flew in and out of BRD). We fished in one of the lakes and saw a ton of wildlife. It's such a great place!

What'Saab Minnesota? DL's Farewell To BRD? (by Widebodyroga Oct 8 2011 in Trip Reports)

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 7):

Hi Stojan, nice report! I've often thought about visiting FAR as well... never been to either of the Dakotas!

Hey J! Thanks! Until 2 weeks ago I had never been to either of the Dakotas as well. During my SUX trip I found myself in S. Dakota for only 10 minutes (and barely 50 yards inside the border) but it still counts!

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 7):
The CR2 really becomes bad if flight time tops 90 minutes. I flew one ORD-HPN once and it was just about at that point. Any longer and I would have started to have problems. The ERJs are much more comfortable, especially if you can get the single-side side!

Totally agreed!

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 7):
You should try Duluth next - just about the furthest-north city in the lower 48 states!

Duluth has always been a place I wanted to visit. But surely it can't be the furthest-north (large) city in the lower 48 states. How about Seattle, Spokane or even Fargo itself? Either way, I'd love to go there  . Have you been?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
You're not... I must've gotten confused. I thought you were their biggest fan!

Hey Alex! You must be confusing me with some other Stojan .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
Fargo, or France?

More like China!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
Ah, firewood. I'll take that any day over its intended purpose.
That said, as an architectural treasure, they shouldn't be destroyed.

Agreed!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
Not my cup of tea indeed. Too small. I believe that there are more interesting places to visit. Though you should continue your quest to see all 50 states.

Yeah, we totally disagree on that. I'd rather live Fargo than any NYC-type city.

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 9):
'ello there again. Another nice look at a place off the beaten path you've got here.

Hey Tigerguy. Thanks!

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 9):
Examine us a little more sometime! But be sure to drop by when it's not insanely hot.

I'd love to visit OKC sometime. If I could combine it with a Thunder game then it would be even better!!!

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 9):
I suppose it depends on your luck. Or maybe where you're arriving from. I've had quite a few OKC-ORD flights that deposited me at the outside F gates. Not that I'm complaining, of course. Also had the same outside treatment from here to IAH and even DEN with E-Jets. That, combined with a few other factors, makes me think they like putting us at the end of whatever concourse. Again, not that I'm complaining; I enjoy the sights and smells and sounds.

I did exaggerate a bit. Jetway-less gates are not unheard of by any means but they are certainly a very small minority in the US. While I appreciate the comfort that jetbridges offer I do like the feeling of walking on the tarmac and smelling the fuel every now and then, as well!

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 10):

Nice report. I live in Bismarck, so just down the road from FAR. Never been to FAR though, I always fly in and out of BIS.

Thanks KaiGywer. BIS was another of the airports I had in mind visiting but in order to do so I had to fly via DEN, thus making this very hard to turn this into a daytrip! I'd love to see more of North Dakota though.

Quoting Boston (Reply 11):
Nice trip report considering how much I dislike the Dakotas. I lived 65 miles north of Fargo in Grand Forks for 4 years. Horrible area to live, especially in winter time. I'm stoked you got to disembark without a jetbridge at ORD because I got to do that only one time also, considering I've flown the ORD-FAR route a couple times. Definitely makes up for having to ride on RJs.

Thanks Boston. Grand Forks (GFK, what a cool code!) was another airport I thought using my miles to fly to but I had to do so via DEN and that would have left me with no time to check out the place. I'm sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy your time up there. I know that visiting for a few hours in the summer (like I did) is very different from having to live there for years, enduring the no doubt brutal and long winters the region is known for.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 12):
Thanks for the fantastic trip report! I enjoy reading all of your trip reports as I find something really quite enchanting about small towns and cities in "Middle America". Fargo looks like a place I should hit up some time

but just not in winter

Alex, thank you for your kind words. I get great joy out of writing these reports and I'm glad people are enjoying them too. Like yourself I have a fascination with small Midwestern cities and I wish I had more time to visit more of them. And like you said, one should avoid visiting them in the winter!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 12):
I've seen the original!
I was looking at that picture thinking "that looks somewhat familiar", but thought "well, I guess a church is a church" ... and then saw it was Vikøyri!
It's a beautiful part of the world and couldn't recommend a trip highly enough to anyone that was considering it.
When I was there I was told that the "vik" of "viking" comes from the name of this village. I don't know whether that's strictly true or not, but it makes for a nice story
Happy flying, and I look forward to reading more from you!

How nice! I'd love to go to Norway one day (been dreaming about it since I was a kid). Thanks for "vik" trivia. It's the first time I hear about it  .

Quoting triple7man (Reply 13):
I flew ORD-LHR-ORD in 1987 and this was before the International Terminal was built. The airplanes would park near where the terminal was and we would be bussed to/from the airplanes. It was nice to get close to a 747 on the ramp.

I can imagine. Getting so close to such big birds at ground level is always so special. It allows you to fully appreciate their size and their beauty!

Quoting triple7man (Reply 13):
Your pictures and trip report was very nice. Some great pictures from the air, especially of other airports and the lakes. I have never been to Fargo, but I have friends living in Moorhead MN, and they have assured me it does get very cold there in the winter. Much colder than Bangkok, for sure.
.

Thank you so very much, T7Man. I was lucky that the skies were clear on the day I traveled. With all its lakes and ponds Minnesota is a fun state to fly over. I love Minnesota but I admit that I've never been there in the winter!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
Another great report you made on an airport/city that is barely covered here! You sure got some great views during flight (especially of all the different airports) and captured them nicely
Glad to see nothing went wrong with you and United this time and Great pictures of Fargo/Moorhead, very interesting!

Thanks Brendan! In fact I got aerial photos of many more airports (especially on the way to FAR) but decided not to overwhelm the report with them. I loved the clear skies.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
I actually didn't know that...

Sure you did .

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
Wow, that is very expensive.. I was about to make the same joke you did

I wonder who would pay that much for such a flight?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
I usually always arrive 90 mins before my flight myself

I'm constantly paranoid that I'll hit traffic or insane check-in and/or security lines so I always get to the airport early. Plus I like airports so it's not a big sacrifice to make  .

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
Was there back in March, quite an interesting airport..

You know, despite living so close to MKE all these years I have never been there (or the city itself). I'd be very interested to see how it's like.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
Great shot, it's amazing how many lakes there are in Minnesota..

Yeah, I guess you can say it's the Finland of the Midwest. Even though Finnish lakes tend to be more elongated and irregular-shaped, while those in Minnesota are more round- or oval-shaped (generally speaking). Fishing in those lakes is so much fun by the way!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
Nice to see you captured a picture of my house

lol . The guy who lives there simply HAS to be an aviation enthusiast, don't you think?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
That doesn't say much either

True. For such a large state its population barely reaches 700.000 people...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 14):
You mean the other way around..

Duh! I'm such an idiot!

Thanks again!

Stojan



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User currently offlineazstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10508 times:

I got a note card from someone a few years ago. On the front page, in bold letters, it read:

LONDON
PARIS
MOSCOW
FARGO


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2298 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10320 times:

what an awesome trip report! Loved it! Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10243 times:

Hey Stojan,

great report here and a really good idea to put your miles to a good use and explore some not-so-well-known places around the states. Nice pictures as well, well done with the color effects on some of them, really liked it. Fargo looks certainly interesting with the Scandinavian heritage.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I'm sure the flight attendant did not appreciate this move but I'm a sucker for city views during approach/landing so I simply had to do it.

Sure, I would have done that as well, always nice to see the city during approach. And it gets even better then when you also have a view over the airport.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A nice representation of the Fargo-Moorhead metropolitan area, with the Red River illuminated, near the baggage carousels

Hmm, looks more like the green river on this map   ...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What I loved about FAR is that there are a couple of monitors showing (on a map) where all incoming and departed aircraft currently are. What a great idea!

That's indeed a great idea. Would be nice if something like this got implemented at other airports as well.

CaptainRed


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10187 times:

Hi Stojan

Great report, nice to see some US destenations whom are off the beaten path!
UA did a good job on both legs.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9966 times:

Hi Stojan!

As great as always! Thanks for sharing. You need to plan for a trip to MEX soon.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1937 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9869 times:
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Another great report, widebodyroga!

Fargo looks like a cool town; I've been living in Minnesota; the Minneapolis/St. Paul suburbs since 2004 and I've never been there to visit. Definitely a neat place! Glad you got a shot of MSP as well, and I agree, it is the best airport in the US in my mind!  

I just got back this evening from 4 flights with United Express through CLE to PWM and was impressed with the level of service from the very friendly flight attendants. On all 4 flights, I was on the ERJ-145 so definitely experienced the same as you did!

Thanks for sharing,

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlinemad99 From Spain, joined Mar 2012, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9771 times:

excellent pics!

Your post should be relevant to the topic discussed.


User currently offlinemucdude From Germany, joined Mar 2012, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9644 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 15):
Thanks mucdude! (by the way I'm flying through MUC 3 times this summer).

That's great! MUC is a wonderful airport! Unfortunately I am not MUCdude anymore but rather BSLdude  



Next flights: ZRH-BOS-ZRH on LX; ZRH-SIN-AKL-SIN-ZRH on SQ
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1708 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9608 times:
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Good day Stojan!

Boy you really are hitting it hard these days, one report after another! Good to see the quality is rather improving than declining. It has to be the genetic and I gladly check that for you if you will  And damn, you came up again with the greatest title ever, the biggest n° of airports photographed from the skies and the most inventive way of picturing a fly! Loved it. That said, I also liked the fact that you’ve logged another 2 interesting vessels, namely the ERJ-145 (oh, if only it would’ve been a -135!) and a CRJ-200. Nearly each others counterparts, my pref is definitely on the Jungle Jet example!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
As many of you know this is somewhat ironic as I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United.

You’re starting to make good use of your HTML skills here lol!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I was not interested in squeezing a bunch of flights in my day without the opportunity to explore any of the destinations.

Ok, I won’t say again that this disappoints me again... Oops, I did say it 

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The plan was to fly out there on an ERJ-145, stay in town for around 8 hours and then fly back on a CRJ-200.

Excellent deal I’d say! Nothing better than a ride on these little jet monsters.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I wanted to blend in with the locals at Fargo so I chose to wear a shirt featuring the Norwegian flag. More than 40% of Fargo's population can trace their ancestry back to Scandinavia, and Norway in particular

Lol, I love the fact that you do your research so good and that you try to be a local. Salt Lake City calling  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Here is LSE serving the the town of La Crosse, Wisconsin

I always wonder wy nearly every US airport, no matter how tiny it is, does have at least 2 runways laid out in a cross (more or less...)

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
This phrase has become a trademark of Fargo (but also of much of Minnesota), popularized by the 1996 movie of the same name: Fargo

Oh yes, the Coen’s, such a memorable movie. But my favourite one is still The Big Lebowski:

”God damn you Walter! You fuckin' asshole! Everything's a fuckin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the FUCK, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about?”

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The departures area

Looks nicely retro-ish...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The pilot explained that they experienced unusually strong headwinds on the way to FAR but told us that we should make up for the small delay due to the unusually strong tailwinds we would enjoy on the way to ORD.

Ha, what goes up, must come down.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
No wonder CRJ-200s have their own hate club out there.

They probably are good friends with that other hate club, the F50 one of which I have a life long membership 

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Surely it can't be! Where is the jetbridge?

Did you land at a US airport  Wow!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12250 posts, RR: 35
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9551 times:
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Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
I always wonder wy nearly every US airport, no matter how tiny it is, does have at least 2 runways laid out in a cross (more or less...)

To minimize crosswind situations.



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User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 928 posts, RR: 3
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9385 times:

Hi Stojan...as always a great TR with great pictures. It is such a shame that these smaller communities have lost so much air service. FAR was rather large during the NWA hayday. Cheers, Will


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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9074 times:

Thanks again to all of you who've read the report. I'm glad you enjoyed it

Quoting azstar (Reply 16):
I got a note card from someone a few years ago. On the front page, in bold letters, it read:

LONDON
PARIS
MOSCOW
FARGO

Hehe, that's funny. By the way, I'm reading a book at the moment called "Fargo. Behind the Glitz and Glamour" .

Quoting azstar (Reply 16):
what an awesome trip report! Loved it! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks azstar, I really appreciate it.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 18):
great report here and a really good idea to put your miles to a good use and explore some not-so-well-known places around the states. Nice pictures as well, well done with the color effects on some of them, really liked it. Fargo looks certainly interesting with the Scandinavian heritage.

Aye, Captain, thanks! Fargo is definitely an interesting town and an under-appreciated place to visit.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 18):
Sure, I would have done that as well, always nice to see the city during approach. And it gets even better then when you also have a view over the airport.

Yeah, I consider that part of the flight to be one of the most exciting ones  .

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 18):
Hmm, looks more like the green river on this map ...

It does! And it looks grey in real life. I wonder where the "Red" came from... Maybe it looks red somewhere upstream or downstream...? Or maybe some kind of massacre took place nearby and they named it after the bloodshed? I couldn't find any info on this.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 18):
That's indeed a great idea. Would be nice if something like this got implemented at other airports as well.

Indeed. It would be hard to have something like this on bigger airports but smaller ones could easily consider a similar feature.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 19):
Great report, nice to see some US destenations whom are off the beaten path!
UA did a good job on both legs.

Thanks Marc. Indeed, United Express was pretty good this time. No surprise when I think about it since they are technically a separate company from UA-proper.  .

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 20):
As great as always! Thanks for sharing. You need to plan for a trip to MEX soon.

Thanks E! As I've told you MEX is high on my list! Those AeroMexico and Volaris aircraft I see at ORD and MDW look awfully inviting!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 21):
Another great report, widebodyroga!

Fargo looks like a cool town; I've been living in Minnesota; the Minneapolis/St. Paul suburbs since 2004 and I've never been there to visit. Definitely a neat place! Glad you got a shot of MSP as well, and I agree, it is the best airport in the US in my mind!

Thanks Matthew! I guess driving to Fargo is indeed a long way from MSP and one wouldn't fly up there for a connecting flight. However if you ever find yourself in that neck of the woods, you should totally pay a visit.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 21):
I just got back this evening from 4 flights with United Express through CLE to PWM and was impressed with the level of service from the very friendly flight attendants. On all 4 flights, I was on the ERJ-145 so definitely experienced the same as you did!

That's great to know. I'm flying with UA and United Express again in a few weeks and I'm curious to see how they "compare".

Quoting mad99 (Reply 22):
excellent pics!

Thanks mad99!

Quoting mucdude (Reply 23):
That's great! MUC is a wonderful airport! Unfortunately I am not MUCdude anymore but rather BSLdude

Hehe. Kinda same here. Instead of Widebodyroga I should be called RegionalJetRoga these days...

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Boy you really are hitting it hard these days, one report after another! Good to see the quality is rather improving than declining. It has to be the genetic and I gladly check that for you if you will And damn, you came up again with the greatest title ever, the biggest n° of airports photographed from the skies and the most inventive way of picturing a fly! Loved it. That said, I also liked the fact that you’ve logged another 2 interesting vessels, namely the ERJ-145 (oh, if only it would’ve been a -135!) and a CRJ-200. Nearly each others counterparts, my pref is definitely on the Jungle Jet example!

Thanks for you very kind words Nils! I may take you up on the genetics test .

As for the report title, you and I are keeping the tradition of funky titles alive.

Yeah, I saw a ton of airports (especially on my way to FAR) and I didn't even include them all here. Here are a few more:

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag42/JCNadal_xxx/Fargo/SAM_1452x_zps690d4a95.jpg
Burlington, Wisconsin (ICAO: KBUU)


http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag42/JCNadal_xxx/Fargo/SAM_1484x_zpsfa72314f.jpg
Red Wing, Minnesota (ICAO: KRGK)

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag42/JCNadal_xxx/SAM_1509x_zps783c609e.jpg
Moorhead, Minnesota (ICAO: KJKJ).

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
You’re starting to make good use of your HTML skills here lol!

Hehe, yeah, I've always wanted to use the strikeout function .

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Ok, I won’t say again that this disappoints me again... Oops, I did say it

Hehe .

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Lol, I love the fact that you do your research so good and that you try to be a local. Salt Lake City calling

Absolutely. Sometimes I feel I'm enjoying the preparation (and associated research) more than the trip itself...

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
I always wonder wy nearly every US airport, no matter how tiny it is, does have at least 2 runways laid out in a cross (more or less...)

Like KaiGywer mentioned, it's all about the crosswinds. Given that space is not an issue in the US and that money used to be plenty in decades past, plenty of regional airports got multiple runways.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Oh yes, the Coen’s, such a memorable movie. But my favourite one is still The Big Lebowski:

They are both such classics. Why is it so difficult to make such movies nowadays?

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
They probably are good friends with that other hate club, the F50 one of which I have a life long membership

Never had the opportunity to fly the F50 but I've heard certain things about it, hehe. All I can say is that it sure looks ugly!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Did you land at a US airport

Yeah, I had to pinch myself when I saw the stairs...

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 26):
Hi Stojan...as always a great TR with great pictures. It is such a shame that these smaller communities have lost so much air service. FAR was rather large during the NWA hayday. Cheers, Will

Thanks Will! At least FAR is doing much better than SUX and some other smaller airports in the region. The only major carrier that does not fly there is Southwest.

Thanks all of you again,

Stojan



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6807 posts, RR: 77
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8816 times:

Hi Widebodyroga,

another great report with lovely pictures! Well done once again!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The plan was to fly out there on an ERJ-145, stay in town for around 8 hours and then fly back on a CRJ-200. Checking United's website I noticed that this itinerary would have cost a paying customer a whooping $1162!

Wow, quite a price for such a combo.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
United Express and AA were the only carriers I could see from where I was sitting

Very cool shot with the skyline in the background.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Blackbirds were everywhere and were nesting in the jetbridges.

Nice! It looks so streamlined!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A nice, albeit hazy, view of Chicago's skyline

Beautiful!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
787s look great. They do remind me a bit of tuna fish. Very bulky yet gracefully streamline at the same time

I can only agree. Last weekend, I spotted QR's Dreamliner at MUC for the first time. It looks hot, hot, hot. Interestingly, many people came to the observation hill to watch the EK A380, but nobody except for me took notice of the departing Dreamliner...


PH



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8500 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
another great report with lovely pictures! Well done once again!

Thanks PH! Very much appreciated.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
Wow, quite a price for such a combo.

Indeed. This was about a month and a half in advance. No wonder the flights ended up being so empty. I wonder what AA's prices were for the same route on the same day (I never bothered to check)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
Very cool shot with the skyline in the background.

Yeah, our gate area offered some nice views of the skyline. Too bad I didn't get there until the last moment and didn't get the chance to enjoy it for longer.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
Nice! It looks so streamlined!

Thanks! Those birds were very territorial and kept chasing each other away. It was hard getting photos of them as they were moving all the time.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
Beautiful

I love easterly approaches to ORD over (or next to) downtown. The views are amazing.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
I can only agree. Last weekend, I spotted QR's Dreamliner at MUC for the first time. It looks hot, hot, hot. Interestingly, many people came to the observation hill to watch the EK A380, but nobody except for me took notice of the departing Dreamliner...

I'm reading a book at the moment called "Cockpit Confidential" (by commercial pilot Patrick Smith) where he raves about how Boeing's designs are generally superior (aesthetically-speaking) to those of Airbus and how much of an eyesore the A380 is (especially compared to the various 747s and also the 787). He would not be pleased with the spotters' behavior at MUC .

Thanks again!



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8451 times:

WBR - another super report. I am very much enjoying this summer series of yours.

I was shocked to see you voluntarily board a UA aircraft though  

Stunning pics - plenty of airports enroute from the air too. I love these especially. I would love to take at trip out to FAR sometime.

Thanks for bringing this one too - looking forward to the next one!

Cheers
Palmjet



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8242 times:

Hola Stojan!

Such a great TR for such short flights.

Nice to get all the info about a well-known city thanks to the great Coen brothers' film.

Love to see the small planes you flew, I have yet to fly the CRJ200, but the Embraers, no matter the size, are great planes. I love how nice those planes fly and how great they perform in the sky: smooth and very efficient flying.

Crisp pictures all along your daily trip, really nice. I keep changing seats, when possible, and go from one side to the other. In my favorite routes I already have everything planned to get the best views.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The Fargo Amtrak Station deserted at this time of day

BTW, I went thorugh there in summer 88 when I crossed the whole US from Seattle to New York on Amtrak, nice memories.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 30):
WBR - another super report. I am very much enjoying this summer series of yours.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 30):
Thanks for bringing this one too - looking forward to the next one!

Thanks Palmjet! I know you like destinations of this kind. If only I had more time (and miles!) I would have checked them all out.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 30):
I was shocked to see you voluntarily board a UA aircraft though

You'd be (even more) shocked to learn that I just booked myself 4 more legs on the Evil One (6 in total).

Quoting palmjet (Reply 30):
Stunning pics - plenty of airports enroute from the air too. I love these especially. I would love to take at trip out to FAR sometime.

Thanks palmjet. I love taking photos on trips like that. I have yet to master night photography like you have though.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 31):
Hola Stojan!
Such a great TR for such short flights.

Hola Roger! Moltes gràcies!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 31):
Nice to get all the info about a well-known city thanks to the great Coen brothers' film.

I wonder how many people would have known of Fargo if it wasn't for the movie!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 31):
Love to see the small planes you flew, I have yet to fly the CRJ200, but the Embraers, no matter the size, are great planes. I love how nice those planes fly and how great they perform in the sky: smooth and very efficient flying.

I enjoy a lot flying on RJs, as long as the trip is not too long of course. The CRJ-200 gets a lot of bad publicity and I guess it is for a good reason, while the ERJ-145 seems to be much more popular with flyers.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 31):
Crisp pictures all along your daily trip, really nice. I keep changing seats, when possible, and go from one side to the other. In my favorite routes I already have everything planned to get the best views.

Thanks! Yeah, I try to change seats whenever necessary (and possible) but without pissing off the crew too much .

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 31):
BTW, I went thorugh there in summer 88 when I crossed the whole US from Seattle to New York on Amtrak, nice memories.

Oh how nice! I would love to do a transcontinental train trip at some point! I bet it was quite the experience, no?

Thank you all again,

Stojan



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User currently offlineinaforeignsky From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2013, 39 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7517 times:

I'm glad you enjoyed the service onboard ExpressJet. A light load on an 145XR always makes for a sporty take off! We've been hiring a lot of new flight attendants recently and all customer facing staff (except for us pilots) are being given an extra day of customer service training now. Things really weren't good enough in the past, so I happy to hear you think we've stepped up our game a bit.

I always enjoy operating into FAR. It's very different from many of the other places we fly to at ExpressJet.


User currently offlineazstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7486 times:

Quoting inaforeignsky (Reply 33):
I always enjoy operating into FAR. It's very different from many of the other places we fly to at ExpressJet.

In what way? I flew Frontier Lynx Q400 a few times and once I was in the bulkhead seat across from the flight attendant jumpseat. While we were taxiing she told me how much she loved flying to FAR, more than the other places they fly, but she never said why.


User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7412 times:

Hello Widebodyroga

Very nice report, I very much like your photography from Fargo/Moorhead.

And interesting to see the two regional jet types compared.

Best regards, LXM83


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

Quoting inaforeignsky (Reply 33):
I'm glad you enjoyed the service onboard ExpressJet. A light load on an 145XR always makes for a sporty take off! We've been hiring a lot of new flight attendants recently and all customer facing staff (except for us pilots) are being given an extra day of customer service training now. Things really weren't good enough in the past, so I happy to hear you think we've stepped up our game a bit.

Thanks inaforeignsky. I'm glad to hear that the company has been putting some effort in improving its customer service. It definitely shows! I'm flying ExpressJet next month (CLE-MKE) and I hope the crew is equally as good.

Quoting azstar (Reply 34):
In what way? I flew Frontier Lynx Q400 a few times and once I was in the bulkhead seat across from the flight attendant jumpseat. While we were taxiing she told me how much she loved flying to FAR, more than the other places they fly, but she never said why.

Yeah, I'd be curious to hear how FAR is appealing from a crew's point of view. For me it was the big windows and the views but I bet that's not the reason the crews like it  .

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 35):
Hello Widebodyroga

Very nice report, I very much like your photography from Fargo/Moorhead.

Thanks LXM83! I'm very glad you enjoyed it  .

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 35):
And interesting to see the two regional jet types compared.

Best regards, LXM83

Prior to this trip I did not have a (strong) opinion about the two RJs, even though I had flown them both. But after flying them in the same day the differences became very apparent.

Stojan



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User currently offlineONT2CGI From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7143 times:

Nice report, now you'e got me think of ALB-MSS or SLK-BOS on 9k. I could also get into a RUT.  

User currently offlinedanvs From Brazil, joined Jul 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7103 times:

Nice trip report!
I would love to visit North Dakota, but during winter time. It would be wonderful to hire a car and drive through a blizzard on neverending roads, just like the opening scene in the film "Fargo".

[Edited 2013-07-06 20:18:04]

User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6898 times:

Quoting Reply 37):
Nice report, now you'e got me think of ALB-MSS or SLK-BOS on 9k. I could also get into a RUT.

Thanks ONT2CGI. I haven't had the chance to fly Cape Air even though I'd love to. I recently saw some of their aircraft at STL and it made me wanna try them really badly. You should definitely try one of the routes you mentioned (and write about them for the rest of us to enjoy)!

Quoting danvs (Reply 38):
Nice trip report!
I would love to visit North Dakota, but during winter time. It would be wonderful to hire a car and drive through a blizzard on neverending roads, just like the opening scene in the film "Fargo".

Thanks danvs! I know what you mean. When most people think of Fargo they think of it the way it is in the dead of winter. And yeah I remember the opening scene of Fargo with the car driving through the blizzard. Trust me it's not so much fun as it may seem .

Thanks everyone again,

Stojan



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6655 times:

Hello Stojan, great and entertaing report as always! Good pictures of Fargo, always nice to read about these unknown destinations. And what a lovely day for flying, stunning views down there below!

User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6571 times:

Hi Stojan,

I am completely disinterested in American aviation, however, have always wanted to visit Fargo, so this report was a delight.

Not least because of the time you invested in the layout, and your eye for details when looking through the lens. You sold the place to me! Really class photos...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
somewhat ironic as I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United.

How do you do that trick when you put a line through words, but still show them? Very funny.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Moments before touchdown

Brilliant! This is the real America!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
This phrase has become a trademark of Fargo (but also of much of Minnesota), popularized by the 1996 movie of the same name: Fargo

haha... loved that film, good old Margie.

Regards,

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6510 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 40):
Hello Stojan, great and entertaing report as always! Good pictures of Fargo, always nice to read about these unknown destinations. And what a lovely day for flying, stunning views down there below!

Thanks Robert! I was fortunate to have scheduled this trip on a day that the sky was sunny and haze-free (for most part). It was rather gloomy and cold a few days earlier but also a few days later...

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 41):
Hi Stojan,

I am completely disinterested in American aviation, however, have always wanted to visit Fargo, so this report was a delight.

Not least because of the time you invested in the layout, and your eye for details when looking through the lens. You sold the place to me! Really class photos...

Thanks Luke! I'm glad you enjoyed the report and the photos. I may not travel to places as interesting and fascinating as you do but I'm doing my best . I hope you get to visit Fargo one day. I think you'd like the place. The people there reminded me in a way of the good people of Fife and Tayside, with their friendliness, chatty mood and wit.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 41):
How do you do that trick when you put a line through words, but still show them? Very funny.

You need to use the "strikeout" or "strikethrough" function. I can't type here the command because it won't show up.

Add "/strike" at the end of the sentence you want to strike through and then add "strike" at the begging of the sentence. In each case however instead of " " use > at the end of "strike" and then at the front of "strike" use the > symbol but facing the other way. That should do it  .

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 41):
Brilliant! This is the real America!

Gotta love places like that.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 41):
haha... loved that film, good old Margie.

Excellent movie. I need to watch it again.

Thanks again  

Stojan



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User currently offlineazstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

It's a remarkably sophisticated place, and kind of hokey small town at the same time. Here's an online publication.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55101364/Images-Fargo-Moorhead-2011


User currently offlinejns13 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

Wow what a great report! I'm new to posting on here, but I've been reading trip reports for awhile, and I was really impressed by this one! The photography in particular (I know it's already been mentioned) was really spectacular and artful in itself-I wouldn't have even needed the words, but they were great as well!

Jordan


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 45, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5830 times:

Quoting azstar (Reply 43):
It's a remarkably sophisticated place, and kind of hokey small town at the same time. Here's an online publication.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55101364/I...-2011

Thanks for that azstar. Interesting document. Part of me wishes I had a look at it before I headed up there. Lots of useful info.

Quoting jns13 (Reply 44):
Wow what a great report! I'm new to posting on here, but I've been reading trip reports for awhile, and I was really impressed by this one! The photography in particular (I know it's already been mentioned) was really spectacular and artful in itself-I wouldn't have even needed the words, but they were great as well!

Hi Jordan and thank you very much for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the report. I'm always looking for new subjects to take photos of and those daytrips offer a great deal of photo opportunities.

And once more, welcome to the tripreporter community  .

Stojan



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 797 posts, RR: 1
Reply 46, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

Greetings Stojan ! Thanks for this report and for going to another sleepy town so that we don't have to : ) or we could I guess, if we were intrigued enough.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
After a couple of years of flying with Star Alliance partners I managed to accumulate a bunch of points in my UA Mileage Plus account. As many of you know this is somewhat ironic as I freaking hate, I strongly dislike I'm not the biggest fan of United.

Aww poor United, I was somewhat like you but grew to love them when I found myself working for them. Despite their many flaws, they do have some gems working with them.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Initially I examined options like OKC, OMA, and a bunch of East Coast airports. However, I was craving something more unusual. Then I thought about FAR (Fargo, North Dakota). FAR was appealing for a number of reasons: It was remote and thus "exotic", the airport was right next door to an Aviation museum, plus I had never been to North Dakota before.

Please do OMA one day ! There's something very intriguing about Omaha, Nebraska 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Checking United's website I noticed that this itinerary would have cost a paying customer a whooping $1162! If one had to guess where FAR was on the basis of this price, one would think it was indeed very far away...

Wow, yield management at its best. I have the strange impression that if I spend $1160 on a ratty tatty CRJ flight I'm acquiring some sort of luxury product. Maybe the FA will serve me some nicely prepared eggs benedict, I'm paying as much as a transpac flight after all no? But, wishful thinking, the "luxury" is simply getting in and out of somewhere the same day :S

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Eventually I got to ORD just 90 mins before my flight (possibly my personal record for late arrival at any airport). The lines at security were the longest I've ever seen in ORD (that says a lot) and moved at a snail's pace. Long story short, I barely made it through.

Is ORD really that slow? I would have thought 90 minutes was plenty of time.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
When boarding was announced, we were told that there would be only 12 of us.

Ohh, almost like a private jet. Now you see why they have to gouge some poor soul? You gotta make money on these flights somehow.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
My choice of refreshment

I hope there's vodka in there.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Possibly my favorite airport in the entire country: MSP

May I ask why? Is it the snoopy statues?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Land of 10,000 lakes? You betcha.

I wish I could swim in them all.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
From some research I had done in advance, I knew that there were no buses that serve the airport and that there are usually only 1 or 2 taxis waiting outside.

What? That sure sounds risky, you love going to dangerous places.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A weeping Buffalo?

If you were a vagrant buffalo living in downtown Fargo, you'd weep too.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I found the locals to be very friendly and chatty.

They do sound quite nice you know.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
An old (and by the looks of it, grumpy) man and his boat

Wow, that boat looks like it has some serious weight and balance issues

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
An ORD-bound CRJ flying over downtown

I love urban plane spotting.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Two local octogenarians (both very hard of hearing) were chatting (understandably very loudly) on the table next to mine.

Oh boy, that was hilarious !! But I can't help but sympathize with them, as I slowly turn into an octogenarian myself, I find myself losing track of the current bootie shaking songstresses, it's just the same basic formula.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Their conversation progressed into a boastful exchange of names of recent(!) girlfriends and the size of their (and I quote) "boobers", at which point I decided I didn't want to eat anymore and left.

HA ! This just took this report up to the legendary category. I think this is probably the best eavesdropped comment I've ever read in a trip report. Hilarious ! But oh so wrong and so very disturbing at the same time. Gravity isn't anyone's friend after 40, so to even fathom the assets of these guys' gals takes the mind to very -very- frightening places. I blame you not for losing your appetite.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
This phrase has become a trademark of Fargo (but also of much of Minnesota), popularized by the 1996 movie of the same name

I want one of those bags.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Another DL departure for MSP

That plane sure is pretty, looks good in those colors too  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What was really annoying however was how low the windows were. My neck was sore by the end of the flight. Also it's crazy how small the overhead bins are - my half-empty backpack could hardly fit in one of them. No wonder CRJ-200s have their own hate club out there.

Hate the CRJ-200 too, but hey, if it gets me where I want to go.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What do we have here? 787s look great. They do remind me a bit of tuna fish

Tuna, yes, I never thought of it but you are quite right. Whenever I see a 787 now I shall forever think of tuna sashimi or some nice seared tuna on a salad.

Thanks a lot for posting this Stojan, enjoyed your sejour through Fargo very much !

Ricardo


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 47, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Greetings Stojan ! Thanks for this report and for going to another sleepy town so that we don't have to : ) or we could I guess, if we were intrigued enough.

Thanks Ricardo. Well, I hope the report intrigued some people into considering Fargo as a future destination. If not for anything else then at least for an opportunity to eavesdrop on local octogenarians.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Aww poor United, I was somewhat like you but grew to love them when I found myself working for them. Despite their many flaws, they do have some gems working with them.

It's hard not to be cruel to UA, when they've been so cruel to me. I can see how working for them can mellow one's perception of them though.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Please do OMA one day ! There's something very intriguing about Omaha, Nebraska

Well, there is a very intriguing fact about OMA indeed. Even though both OMA and the city of Omaha are in Nebraska, one needs to drive through a patch of land belonging to Iowa in order to travel between the two!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Wow, yield management at its best. I have the strange impression that if I spend $1160 on a ratty tatty CRJ flight I'm acquiring some sort of luxury product. Maybe the FA will serve me some nicely prepared eggs benedict, I'm paying as much as a transpac flight after all no? But, wishful thinking, the "luxury" is simply getting in and out of somewhere the same day :S

Eggs Benedict... You just gave me an idea for lunch.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Is ORD really that slow? I would have thought 90 minutes was plenty of time.

When all the lined-up pax need to be funneled through a single TSA agent checking IDs, and when there is virtually no space between the said TSA agent and the nudoscope lines it's easy to see how the whole process can come to a standstill and take forever. It's not always like that at ORD but on certain days (and certain times within those days) it can be super slow.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
I hope there's vodka in there.

Alcohol makes me sleepy so I avoid drinking while flying. Unless I'm flying IB, AZ or UA, in which case I do drink so I can sleep and become oblivious to the fact I'm flying with them.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
May I ask why? Is it the snoopy statues?

I hardly know who Snoopy is, let alone that there are statues of him in the Twin Cities. I know next to nothing about TV shows, movies, pop culture, etc.  . I guess I like MSP because it is clean, spacious, with nice food and friendly staff. The opposite of ORD or LAX.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
I wish I could swim in them all.

I hope you like freezing water.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
If you were a vagrant buffalo living in downtown Fargo, you'd weep too.

That made me lol.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Wow, that boat looks like it has some serious weight and balance issues

I'm surprised it doesn't have buoyancy issues to be honest.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
I love urban plane spotting.

Totally. I'm so glad one of ORD's runways is lined up with my living room window so I can spot all day and night.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Oh boy, that was hilarious !! But I can't help but sympathize with them, as I slowly turn into an octogenarian myself, I find myself losing track of the current bootie shaking songstresses, it's just the same basic formula.
Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
HA ! This just took this report up to the legendary category. I think this is probably the best eavesdropped comment I've ever read in a trip report. Hilarious ! But oh so wrong and so very disturbing at the same time. Gravity isn't anyone's friend after 40, so to even fathom the assets of these guys' gals takes the mind to very -very- frightening places. I blame you not for losing your appetite.

That conversation was surreal. If I hadn't just eaten I may have stayed there a bit longer so I could hear more. But with a belly full of freshly consumed food I don't think I could have lasted long in that room.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
I want one of those bags.

Me too! I thought I was going to be given one with my purchases but I got a generic bag instead.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Tuna, yes, I never thought of it but you are quite right. Whenever I see a 787 now I shall forever think of tuna sashimi or some nice seared tuna on a salad.

The first time I set eyes on a 787 I knew it reminded me of something and then I realized that this something was tuna. The similarities are obvious!

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag42/JCNadal_xxx/Graphic1_zps284f80b1.jpg

Quoting SR117 (Reply 46):
Thanks a lot for posting this Stojan, enjoyed your sejour through Fargo very much !

Thanks Ricardo. I'm really glad you enjoyed it a much as I did.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 48, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

Hey Stojan!

Trying to read the TR (finally getting around to it) but the images are zilch! photobucket issue - just as an FYI!



next flights: jfk-icn, icn-hkg-bkk-cdg, cdg-phl-msp
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 49, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5065 times:

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 48):
Trying to read the TR (finally getting around to it) but the images are zilch! photobucket issue - just as an FYI!

Thanks Rohan. The photos should now be visible again. Thanks for letting me know.

Stojan



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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4260 posts, RR: 6
Reply 50, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

Before I forget, let me say what a great TR this is! I enjoyed your recent visit to SUX too...the lack of an agenda is very appealing to me because I like to do the same thing and wander around when I go somewhere new (and have the time.) Not having an agenda set in stone is very liberating. It doesn't always work out this way, of course, but when it does you can get an impression of an area or region you probably wouldn't get otherwise! Needless to say, your accounts and photos told the story very well!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Fargo/Moorhead was a very interesting place to visit. I know these kind of small Midwestern towns are not everybody's cup of tea but I personally find them very intriguing.

I just visited Minot, ND (MOT) this past week, for no other reason that I had not been to North Dakota before either! I did not put together a TR though, but I can confirm these small Midwestern cities are quite interesting places to visit (in summer, at least, not sure I would like it much in the depths of winter!) Compared to Minot, Fargo is like a metropolis! Where agriculture seems to be the main trade around FAR, it is mostly energy-related industry around MOT with numerous oil drilling fields and a huge windfarm south of the city. There is plenty of agriculture though, and by chance, this week I was treated to the North Dakota State Fair in Minot. Excellent!

Shockingly, of four DL/DL Connection flights I took JFK-MSP-MOT and return, the only mainline flight was MOT-MSP on an A319! I didnt think they flew anything that big into Minot!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Of course. Here is my boy hidden from view behind a double jetbridge.

When this happens, I try to gain any information I can for future reference. The numbers on the nosewheel door, for example, are usually part of the tail number or serial number for that airframe. Some airlines post a certificate or other document inside the cabin, usually above the main door, showing the registration number. Otherwise, I am not beneath standing between the tagged gate-checked bags at the end of the jetbridge and peering out the little slit windows to see if I can read the tail number!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
In general I found the locals to be very friendly and chatty. People would just stop and chat with me. It reminded me of Japan. This being Sunday, most streets were quiet but whenever I came across someone he/she would greet me verbally, or at least nod.

I agree. My experience with the Midwest is that people are very friendly. MOT had very friendly TSA agents and there was a level of civility that I found very refreshing and charming!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A small replica of Lady Liberty. New York is one of my least favorite cities. The only reason I would go back there is to visit the Statue of Liberty. Now I don't have to

Boo, hiss! NYC is a mix of a lot of cultures and it is true that people tend to be cold, at first anyway. However, there is a vibe and an energy found in New York that is pretty darn unique - as a transplanted resident, it took me a while to get used to it but now I find it quite an amazing city! It's not Fargo, agreed, but there is nowhere else quite like New York!!!! I will concede, though, that it is not for everybody - but please don't judge the city by a couple of bad experiences! My recommended time to visit would be spring or fall when temperatures moderate; there is definitely plenty to do and see in NYC!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The seats, while not spacious, provided acceptable pitch. What was really annoying however was how low the windows were. My neck was sore by the end of the flight. Also it's crazy how small the overhead bins are - my half-empty backpack could hardly fit in one of them. No wonder CRJ-200s have their own hate club out there.

I view CRJ-200s as necessary evils. But you touched on all the main points that frequent fliers dislike about the little bugs. The placement of the windows and lack of overhead storage is laughable... thank goodness the subsequent CRJ-700s and -900s are vastly improved in both areas. But they both fall far short of an E-jet on general comfort.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The departures area

Huge!
(Well compared to MOT it is!) Ha!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Surely it can't be! Where is the jetbridge?

Lots of airports don't have or use jetbridges in the USA! It is not that uncommon actually...I connected through ORD many years ago to GRB for business and had to walk on the tarmac to the little plane even though the weather was cold and snowy at the time! Not the best!

My most recently flight into JFK Terminal 2 was jetbridge-less. Had to walk quite a long way to get inside the building. I was reading a comment on a different blog that this walkway sometimes gets flooded (which I can believe) meaning folks get their feet wet walking to or from the regional jets at JFK. Totally unacceptable, in my opinion, but it makes a small dash across the dry tarmac at ORD seem totally fine to me!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I recently read that OK is the least visited state in the USA... You should give it a try.

I do not believe for a moment that OK is less-visited than North Dakota. Oklahoma has two large cities (Oklahoma City and Tulsa) and at least two large universities. What does ND have? Besides Fargo (and the University of ND), I think most people on the east coast would be hardpressed to name one or two other towns/cities in ND!



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 51, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Thanks for your lengthy comments richierich!

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
Before I forget, let me say what a great TR this is! I enjoyed your recent visit to SUX too...the lack of an agenda is very appealing to me because I like to do the same thing and wander around when I go somewhere new (and have the time.) Not having an agenda set in stone is very liberating. It doesn't always work out this way, of course, but when it does you can get an impression of an area or region you probably wouldn't get otherwise! Needless to say, your accounts and photos told the story very well!

Thanks again. I agree that this sort of trips are highly enjoyable and I wish I could go on more of them. I'm glad you enjoyed both reports so far.

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
I just visited Minot, ND (MOT) this past week, for no other reason that I had not been to North Dakota before either! I did not put together a TR though, but I can confirm these small Midwestern cities are quite interesting places to visit (in summer, at least, not sure I would like it much in the depths of winter!) Compared to Minot, Fargo is like a metropolis! Where agriculture seems to be the main trade around FAR, it is mostly energy-related industry around MOT with numerous oil drilling fields and a huge windfarm south of the city. There is plenty of agriculture though, and by chance, this week I was treated to the North Dakota State Fair in Minot. Excellent!

Shockingly, of four DL/DL Connection flights I took JFK-MSP-MOT and return, the only mainline flight was MOT-MSP on an A319! I didnt think they flew anything that big into Minot!

How interesting! I would have loved to see a report from a place like Minot. Did you see anything interesting while there? I know there is a Norwegian church in Minot almost identical to the one in Fargo. I'm also surprised to hear that DL-proper flew you to MOT. I would have never guessed it. Next time you find yourself in that neck of the woods, please make sure to take some photos to share with us...

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
When this happens, I try to gain any information I can for future reference. The numbers on the nosewheel door, for example, are usually part of the tail number or serial number for that airframe. Some airlines post a certificate or other document inside the cabin, usually above the main door, showing the registration number. Otherwise, I am not beneath standing between the tagged gate-checked bags at the end of the jetbridge and peering out the little slit windows to see if I can read the tail number!

I couldn't see the nosewheel door nor did I see any registration number information anywhere else in the cabin. I can't claim to have searched too hard though. I thought I would get a glimpse of the registration when I got off at Fargo, but in my hurry to be one of the first to grab a taxi I totally forgot! How embarrassing!

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
I agree. My experience with the Midwest is that people are very friendly. MOT had very friendly TSA agents and there was a level of civility that I found very refreshing and charming!

I wish everyone was like that. It's part of the reason I'm not a fan of big cities - the people there are just not like that. I love the progressiveness of big cities but the lack of friendliness gets to me after awhile.

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
Boo, hiss! NYC is a mix of a lot of cultures and it is true that people tend to be cold, at first anyway. However, there is a vibe and an energy found in New York that is pretty darn unique - as a transplanted resident, it took me a while to get used to it but now I find it quite an amazing city! It's not Fargo, agreed, but there is nowhere else quite like New York!!!! I will concede, though, that it is not for everybody - but please don't judge the city by a couple of bad experiences! My recommended time to visit would be spring or fall when temperatures moderate; there is definitely plenty to do and see in NYC!

Hehe, don't pay attention to me. The truth is that I do have a beef with NYC but of course that does not change the fact that it's a very popular destination for many people. For one thing, I fail to appreciate the "uniqueness" of NYC. For me it's just another big city, only more expensive than the rest.  .

I don't tend to form bad opinions about something after only a couple of bad experiences (OK, actually I do) so my negative opinion of NYC did not develop overnight. I guess it's just not my kind of place. The older I get the less of a city person I become... By the way, for some reason I cannot comprehend myself, I'm a NY Jets fan. Maybe it has something to do with their name  .

By the way, where are you originally from?

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
I view CRJ-200s as necessary evils. But you touched on all the main points that frequent fliers dislike about the little bugs. The placement of the windows and lack of overhead storage is laughable... thank goodness the subsequent CRJ-700s and -900s are vastly improved in both areas. But they both fall far short of an E-jet on general comfort.

Agreed 100%. If I didn't have a soft spot for RJs I would have made it my mission to avoid CRJ-200s from now on. But I like those little buggers even if they are such a pain...

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
Huge!
(Well compared to MOT it is!) Ha!

I must admit that FAR was bigger than I thought. But then again, FAR receives more traffic that I would have thought too.

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
Lots of airports don't have or use jetbridges in the USA! It is not that uncommon actually...I connected through ORD many years ago to GRB for business and had to walk on the tarmac to the little plane even though the weather was cold and snowy at the time! Not the best!

My most recently flight into JFK Terminal 2 was jetbridge-less. Had to walk quite a long way to get inside the building. I was reading a comment on a different blog that this walkway sometimes gets flooded (which I can believe) meaning folks get their feet wet walking to or from the regional jets at JFK. Totally unacceptable, in my opinion, but it makes a small dash across the dry tarmac at ORD seem totally fine to me!

You are right. Jetbridge-less gates are far from a rarity in the US. I guess our airports have acquired this reputation (of having jetbridges at every gate) because of the jetbridges you'd see in tiny regional airports that are served only by props. I guess most Europeans perceive this as a bit of an overkill. Given how nasty the weather can get in the Midwest however it's hardly an overkill in my opinion.

Quoting richierich (Reply 50):
I do not believe for a moment that OK is less-visited than North Dakota. Oklahoma has two large cities (Oklahoma City and Tulsa) and at least two large universities. What does ND have? Besides Fargo (and the University of ND), I think most people on the east coast would be hardpressed to name one or two other towns/cities in ND!

Hehe, you quoted this statement as if it was me who said it (when in fact it was user dc9northwest) and for a brief moment there I was scratching my head trying to recall where I'd read that Oklahoma was the least visited state in the nation.... I agree that I would be very surprised if Oklahoma was the least visited state. Surely North Dakota or Wyoming or Idaho should be on the top of that list...

In fact after a quick google search it seems that North Dakota is indeed the one that takes the cake!

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...oneymag_archive/1999/11/01/268029/

Thanks again,

Stojan



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User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Awesome report! I just flew into Fargo last weekend, I took DL PHX-MSP-FAR-SLC-PHX. I have also taken G4 from AZA up to Fargo. They really do have a nice little airport, I always enjoy visiting up there.


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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4260 posts, RR: 6
Reply 53, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4631 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 51):
Did you see anything interesting while there? I know there is a Norwegian church in Minot almost identical to the one in Fargo. I'm also surprised to hear that DL-proper flew you to MOT. I would have never guessed it. Next time you find yourself in that neck of the woods, please make sure to take some photos to share with us...

I was surprised DL mainline serves Minot too - I think this is relatively new and it wouldn't surprise me if it is seasonal. There are folks on this site that know far more about scheduling than I do.
I did take photos, not necessarily appropriate for a TR (i.e., I'm in too many of them!) and I only used an iPhone camera. I can tell you MOT airport has two gates (w/jetbridges) and a small shared holdroom with maybe 100 seats. There is also a small cafe that is the only airside concessions. It looks like there is an additional hold room area that recently opened up but I didnt see anybody sitting in there while waiting for my flight to MSP as it is off to the side and sort of out of view of the DL gate. (The other gate had UA signs on it but there was no plane there during my time in and out of MOT.) Allegiant also serves MOT but they are not daily, which is typical for that airline.

Landside, very small area for checkin with a small counter for each airline. Opposite the airline checkin and across from the TSA screening is the rental car counter, all three of them. Yeah, MOT is small! I do have a few photos I can send if you wish - just message me.

I do not recall a Norwegian church in downtown Minot but this was such a quick trip for me that, honestly, I didnt immerse myself in the local culture as much as I would have liked to. Friendly folks and a bustling main road from the airport to downtown are some of my strongest takeaways!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 51):
By the way, where are you originally from?

Transplanted from CT (rural by comparison to NYC!), and prior to that lived in PA and the UK.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 51):
Hehe, you quoted this statement as if it was me who said it

Apologies!
Anyway, thank you again for the great TR. It was a pleasure to read.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12250 posts, RR: 35
Reply 54, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4556 times:
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Quoting richierich (Reply 53):
I was surprised DL mainline serves Minot too - I think this is relatively new and it wouldn't surprise me if it is seasonal. There are folks on this site that know far more about scheduling than I do.

NW used to fly mainline into MOT for years. MOT and BIS both have a variety of equipment, varying from CRJ to MD90, depending on the month. MOT is a very busy airport (I gave out more DBC there than at both MSP and BIS) due to the oil traffic, but I'm assuming (I've been out of the business for two years) that by opening 2x CRJ to MSP and DEN from ISN, MOT has slowed down a little.

Quoting richierich (Reply 53):
I do not recall a Norwegian church in downtown Minot but this was such a quick trip for me that, honestly, I didnt immerse myself in the local culture as much as I would have liked to. Friendly folks and a bustling main road from the airport to downtown are some of my strongest takeaways!

If you continue up the hill (called south hill) the church would have been on the right side of the road. The hill to the airport is called.....you guess it...north hill  



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 55, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 52):
Awesome report! I just flew into Fargo last weekend, I took DL PHX-MSP-FAR-SLC-PHX. I have also taken G4 from AZA up to Fargo. They really do have a nice little airport, I always enjoy visiting up there.

Thanks treebeard787. That's a pretty nice routing. I love flying through SLC, especially due to the mountains (which we completely lack here in the Midwest).

Quoting richierich (Reply 53):
I was surprised DL mainline serves Minot too - I think this is relatively new and it wouldn't surprise me if it is seasonal. There are folks on this site that know far more about scheduling than I do.
I did take photos, not necessarily appropriate for a TR (i.e., I'm in too many of them!) and I only used an iPhone camera. I can tell you MOT airport has two gates (w/jetbridges) and a small shared holdroom with maybe 100 seats. There is also a small cafe that is the only airside concessions. It looks like there is an additional hold room area that recently opened up but I didnt see anybody sitting in there while waiting for my flight to MSP as it is off to the side and sort of out of view of the DL gate. (The other gate had UA signs on it but there was no plane there during my time in and out of MOT.) Allegiant also serves MOT but they are not daily, which is typical for that airline.

Thanks for the description richierich. You gave me a pretty good idea of how the airport looks (I also looked up some photos). Now you've made me wanna go there.

Quoting richierich (Reply 53):
Yeah, MOT is small! I do have a few photos I can send if you wish - just message me.

I may take you up on that. I love looking at photos of small airports.

Quoting richierich (Reply 53):
Anyway, thank you again for the great TR
. It was a pleasure to read.

Thank you so very much richierich.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 54):
NW used to fly mainline into MOT for years. MOT and BIS both have a variety of equipment, varying from CRJ to MD90, depending on the month. MOT is a very busy airport (I gave out more DBC there than at both MSP and BIS) due to the oil traffic, but I'm assuming (I've been out of the business for two years) that by opening 2x CRJ to MSP and DEN from ISN, MOT has slowed down a little.

Thanks for the info KaiGywer.  . I keep forgetting that despite the small number of visitors that N.Dakota receives, there is the oil industry that could justify all this air traffic.

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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 56, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4265 times:

Hey Stojan,

Just a quick remark--your reports marked me. I dreamt I was flying Pierre-Bismarck on some flight that originated somewhere else...

What do you say..? Take up the challenge and go to these places? 

Cheers,
Alex


User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 57, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 55):
Thanks treebeard787. That's a pretty nice routing. I love flying through SLC, especially due to the mountains (which we completely lack here in the Midwest).

Yeah, DL seems to be having good success with FAR-SLC as it's at 2x daily flights, split between a CR7 and CR9. It's a nice alternative to having to connect in MSP.

I like flying in and out of smaller airports, they always have a unique character all their own that the larger airports can't match.

I've got a few pictures of my travels to Bemidji BJI over the years if you are interested.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/75706613@N05/sets/72157631073510356/



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Reply 58, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4199 times:
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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2797 posts, RR: 4
Reply 59, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4176 times:
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Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Fargo is home to North Dakota State University

BOOOOO! Sorry, have to do it since I'm a University of North Dakota student .

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
As anyone that has traveled extensively in the US should know, this is very rare, especially at ORD

I have flown to ORD twice and once I boarded from a jetbridgeless gate on UA. I was so excited when it happened as I was still young. I remember holding my stepdad's hand and telling him I felt like we were rockstars.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Fargo/Moorhead was a very interesting place to visit. I know these kind of small Midwestern towns are not everybody's cup of tea but I personally find them very intriguing. There is interesting history behind them, their people are very friendly (and not as backwards or conservative as it is often thought) and their airports are a joy to sample! When you experience all of this for free then how could I possibly have anything to complain about? Fargo may not be all that far away from Chicago, but in many ways it is a world apart from the stressful and often inhumane way everyday life is the big city. It is so close yet indeed so far away.

I think the way you described midwestern towns is right on the money. I'm an east coaster that moved to North Dakota for school and life is just so different here. People here are absolutely wonderful and it is such a relaxing atmosphere. Everything out east is rush rush rush, you don't really have a chance to enjoy the surroundings. Here people stop and enjoy them. Even MSP is pretty good compared to the east coast.

Quoting Boston (Reply 11):
Nice trip report considering how much I dislike the Dakotas. I lived 65 miles north of Fargo in Grand Forks for 4 years. Horrible area to live, especially in winter time.

Well the winters are horrible, I'll give you that. The summers aren't too bad. Though there really isn't a whole lot to do around here except fly.

Quoting danvs (Reply 38):
I would love to visit North Dakota, but during winter time. It would be wonderful to hire a car and drive through a blizzard on neverending roads, just like the opening scene in the film "Fargo".

All I have to say is good luck getting around! Most places they tell people to use caution, here they just shut down the interstate! Our hockey team actually got stuck coming back from a game last year because they shut down the highway. I was coming back to school that same day. We landed in GFK and the guy next to me commented "Man this is a small airport, only one runway?" He was shocked when I told him we had 4 runways and we just crossed over another one of them. That wind makes driving impossible!

This was honestly one of my favorite trip reports. It's nice to see something other than big cities with an A380 flight. North Dakota has a nice charm to it (in the summer) and frankly I forgot about it, even as a resident. It was cool to see someone really enjoy being here and taking in some of the sites. I did a solo flight last week GFK-PKD-FAR-GFK and it was amazing to see the beauty of the area. It was fun having FAR all to myself for landings too .
Pat



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 60, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4123 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 56):
Just a quick remark--your reports marked me. I dreamt I was flying Pierre-Bismarck on some flight that originated somewhere else...

Pierre-Bismarck? Now that would have been something! I'm really sorry that my reports gave you nightmares! .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 56):
What do you say..? Take up the challenge and go to these places?

If only I had enough funds and time I would be flying to those places in a heartbeat! You know me  .

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 57):
Yeah, DL seems to be having good success with FAR-SLC as it's at 2x daily flights, split between a CR7 and CR9. It's a nice alternative to having to connect in MSP.

Yeah, SLC sounds like a much better choice for those heading to the West coast. While MSP is not that far east of FAR it's still in the wrong direction  .

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 57):
I like flying in and out of smaller airports, they always have a unique character all their own that the larger airports can't match.

I've got a few pictures of my travels to Bemidji BJI over the years if you are interested.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7570661...0356/

How cool! Thanks a lot for the photos. I remember when my wife and I had to travel to northern Minnesota a couple of years ago and we were trying to choose where to fly to: BJI or BRD? We ended up flying to the latter (which was great!) but I've always been curious about how BJI looked like.

I loved all of your (non-BJI) aviation photos too by the way. You'll need to teach me some tricks  .

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 58):
I'll just pic whore a little

Thanks KaiGywer. Hehe, pic whore all you want. I like all of your a.net photos  .

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 59):
BOOOOO! Sorry, have to do it since I'm a University of North Dakota student .

Hehe, you gotta love college rivalries. I went to school in the UK (the country not the U of Kentucky) where such rivalries do not exist (except perhaps between Oxford and Cambridge) so I feel like I'm missing out.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 59):
I have flown to ORD twice and once I boarded from a jetbridgeless gate on UA. I was so excited when it happened as I was still young. I remember holding my stepdad's hand and telling him I felt like we were rockstars.

That's a nice story. I wish I remembered the first time I used a jetway. It was probably in ARN. I may not recall it but I bet I felt like a rockstar too  .

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 59):
I think the way you described midwestern towns is right on the money. I'm an east coaster that moved to North Dakota for school and life is just so different here. People here are absolutely wonderful and it is such a relaxing atmosphere. Everything out east is rush rush rush, you don't really have a chance to enjoy the surroundings. Here people stop and enjoy them. Even MSP is pretty good compared to the east coast.

That's what I've heard about MSP too. Even though I have flown through MSP a couple of times I have never been to the Twin Cities. It must have been quite a cultural shock moving to the Dakotas from the East coast. I had a similar experience (but the other way round) when I moved from small-town Scotland to Chicago some 7 years ago.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 59):
his was honestly one of my favorite trip reports. It's nice to see something other than big cities with an A380 flight. North Dakota has a nice charm to it (in the summer) and frankly I forgot about it, even as a resident. It was cool to see someone really enjoy being here and taking in some of the sites. I did a solo flight last week GFK-PKD-FAR-GFK and it was amazing to see the beauty of the area. It was fun having FAR all to myself for landings too .
Pat

Thanks Pat! That means a lot. So you're a pilot? That's awesome. What kind of equipment do you fly? Taking to the skies alone is something I'll probably never experience. It sounds so fascinating but so intimidating too. It must be such a unique feeling and one that never gets too old I bet!

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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2797 posts, RR: 4
Reply 61, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3934 times:
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Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 59):
That's what I've heard about MSP too. Even though I have flown through MSP a couple of times I have never been to the Twin Cities. It must have been quite a cultural shock moving to the Dakotas from the East coast. I had a similar experience (but the other way round) when I moved from small-town Scotland to Chicago some 7 years ago.

I would highly recommend checking the twin cities out. My stepdad is from there so it was always back and forth between Connecticut and the Twin Cities for me. It's like my second home. The people are awesome and it is a beautiful area. It was quite the culture shock! Most of the kid's I graduated high school with probably couldn't point North Dakota out on a map. But luckily being a college town that draws from all over the adjustment was easy! Certainly not as drastic a change as you have made!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 60):
Thanks Pat! That means a lot. So you're a pilot? That's awesome. What kind of equipment do you fly? Taking to the skies alone is something I'll probably never experience. It sounds so fascinating but so intimidating too. It must be such a unique feeling and one that never gets too old I bet!

Well I don't want to insult the pilots on here by calling myself one, but I am finishing up my Private Pilot's license as we speak! Hopefully going to do my checkride on Saturday. At the moment I fly the Cessna 172S. Really fun airplanes to fly IMO. We have glass avionics and all the gizmos. They're the devil though (at least that is what my instructor says!). You could absolutely experience it! Getting your license is a tough trip, but it is so worth it. It really isn't as intimidating as one would think. I thought I would be nervous during my first solo but you really don't have time to think about it. You are too busy running checklists, looking for traffic, and making sure you are safe to land. It is quite the experience. The most fun about it though? Leaving for the airport as my roommate is leaving for his Biology lab, flying to FAR for lunch, and coming back at the same time and asking how much fun he had in class?   .
Pat



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5090 posts, RR: 55
Reply 62, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Wow. What a cool report. I have never been to FAR, but now am inspired to pay a visit. Thanks again for sharing this report. And, I agree ... while there is a plethora of reports on short hop European flights, there just isn't much in the U.S. Perhaps, we need writers like you to bring the best about by adding such wonderful insight! Thanks again for sharing it.

Saludos,
Alex



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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 63, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Didn't see your reply till today...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 42):
I hope you get to visit Fargo one day. I think you'd like the place. The people there reminded me in a way of the good people of Fife and Tayside, with their friendliness, chatty mood and wit.

I think I might just manage it next year! Especially if the people are like Taysiders! Haha...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 42):
You need to use the "strikeout" or "strikethrough" function. I can't type here the command because it won't show up.

Nice. I must try that. I like the ironic wit it brings to a report!



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1944 posts, RR: 2
Reply 64, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

Awesome report! Thanks a lot. I have a comment and a question for you. First is that I've flown on N610CZ, the first EMB you have photoed there. Just beautiful. And judging by your picture of the Compass pilots, I might know the captain. Do you know what day you flew FAR-ORD? I can ask him to check if he was flying that leg.

User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 65, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 61):
I would highly recommend checking the twin cities out. My stepdad is from there so it was always back and forth between Connecticut and the Twin Cities for me. It's like my second home. The people are awesome and it is a beautiful area. It was quite the culture shock! Most of the kid's I graduated high school with probably couldn't point North Dakota out on a map. But luckily being a college town that draws from all over the adjustment was easy! Certainly not as drastic a change as you have made!

You're absolutely right! I need to go there at some point (preferably not in the winter, even though even that would be interesting). Friendly locals is near the top of my list when I look for destinations to visit. Maybe I could combine a visit there with a Wolves' game. My wife and I are big fans of Ricky Rubio.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 61):
Well I don't want to insult the pilots on here by calling myself one, but I am finishing up my Private Pilot's license as we speak! Hopefully going to do my checkride on Saturday. At the moment I fly the Cessna 172S. Really fun airplanes to fly IMO. We have glass avionics and all the gizmos. They're the devil though (at least that is what my instructor says!). You could absolutely experience it! Getting your license is a tough trip, but it is so worth it. It really isn't as intimidating as one would think. I thought I would be nervous during my first solo but you really don't have time to think about it. You are too busy running checklists, looking for traffic, and making sure you are safe to land. It is quite the experience. The most fun about it though? Leaving for the airport as my roommate is leaving for his Biology lab, flying to FAR for lunch, and coming back at the same time and asking how much fun he had in class? .
Pat

Sounds very fascinating! I've recently read a couple of books where commercial pilots describe their early years of training. It was really interesting to read about the small aircraft they got trained on and the obscure little airstrips they got to fly to/from. And yeah, I bet your kind of "lab" beats any other lab, hands down! .

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 62):
Wow. What a cool report. I have never been to FAR, but now am inspired to pay a visit. Thanks again for sharing this report. And, I agree ... while there is a plethora of reports on short hop European flights, there just isn't much in the U.S. Perhaps, we need writers like you to bring the best about by adding such wonderful insight! Thanks again for sharing it.

Thanks, Alex! I miss the cultural diversity of Europe (where a 1-hour flight can take you to a place dramatically different from your point of origin). I wish I had as many exciting short-hop options from here as someone based in, say, MUC. It's still fun to get to sample different states though, and especially those that are less known.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 63):
I think I might just manage it next year! Especially if the people are like Taysiders! Haha...

If you do, please do let me know!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 63):
Nice. I must try that. I like the ironic wit it brings to a report!

Hehe, I just need to be careful not to abuse it!

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 64):
Awesome report! Thanks a lot. I have a comment and a question for you. First is that I've flown on N610CZ, the first EMB you have photoed there. Just beautiful. And judging by your picture of the Compass pilots, I might know the captain. Do you know what day you flew FAR-ORD? I can ask him to check if he was flying that leg.

Thank you MSPNWA. I love how ERJ-170s look in Delta's colors! Lovely birds in a lovely livery! I was at FAR on Sunday June 16th by the way. If it was your friend on the photo, then I apologize for publishing his photo without permission or without blurring his face. I did not expect for his face to be recognizable through the glass reflection.  .

Thanks again!

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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1944 posts, RR: 2
Reply 66, posted (1 year 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 65):
Thank you MSPNWA. I love how ERJ-170s look in Delta's colors! Lovely birds in a lovely livery! I was at FAR on Sunday June 16th by the way. If it was your friend on the photo, then I apologize for publishing his photo without permission or without blurring his face. I did not expect for his face to be recognizable through the glass reflection. .

Thanks again!

Stojan

Thanks for confirming the date. I checked with him, and yes, the captain in the photo is my brother! Small world, eh?! I mean, the chances of you taking a picture of him and me finding it in this thread weeks later has to be astronomical! This is one of the coolest coincidences ever. Oh, and like I said about N610CZ. I once took a couple flights with him when he was piloting, and that's the plane we flew on together. Compass has 42 planes, so there's another 1 in 42 chance right there. So cool!

Don't worry about not editing it. I'm glad you didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have found out. There's no way anyone but my family would have recognized him anyway. He loved finding out about it, and he really enjoyed your report too! Thanks again!

~Kenny


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 67, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 66):
Thanks for confirming the date. I checked with him, and yes, the captain in the photo is my brother! Small world, eh?! I mean, the chances of you taking a picture of him and me finding it in this thread weeks later has to be astronomical! This is one of the coolest coincidences ever. Oh, and like I said about N610CZ. I once took a couple flights with him when he was piloting, and that's the plane we flew on together. Compass has 42 planes, so there's another 1 in 42 chance right there. So cool!

Don't worry about not editing it. I'm glad you didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have found out. There's no way anyone but my family would have recognized him anyway. He loved finding out about it, and he really enjoyed your report too! Thanks again!

~Kenny

Indeed, what a cool bunch of coincidences, Kenny! I'm glad I posted the photo then. If your brother happened to see a crazy guy with a big camera taking photos inside the terminal then that was me. Thanks again  .



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