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USA 2013 Pt 5: AA & BA's New WTP MCO-MIA-ATL-LHR  
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13175 times:


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Maps generated by theGreat Circle Mapper -copyright © Karl L. Swartz.


Welcome all to the fifth and final part of my USA trip from April 2013. The previous four parts have seen me travel from London Heathrow, to Paris, Back from Paris to London, across to Washington on to Chicago, then down to Florida. If you have mssed them, they can be seen here:

USA 2013 Pt 4: Heading South On A Mad Dog ORD-MCO (by jwhite9185 Jun 13 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 3: Almost A Disaster With AA DCA-ORD (by jwhite9185 May 29 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 2: BA A320/744 WTP CDG-LHR-IAD (by jwhite9185 May 14 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 1: The Beginning BA LHR-ORY (by jwhite9185 Apr 20 2013 in Trip Reports)

Videos for this part:

Departure from MCO: http://youtu.be/uNpP8OQX0sg
Arrivial in MIA: http://youtu.be/pZfdwQHoNxU

Departure from MIA: http://youtu.be/ABBKmFkXTpA
Arrival in ATL: http://youtu.be/Id2stqqvqbg

Arrival in LHR: http://youtu.be/y3RTAWrpFK8

After having some pretty big issues on the previous sector of this ticket (which can be read about in part 3), I was a little concerned about this sector – especially as I had two connections to make, and this would be the sector getting me home. On the plus side, I had a printed confirmation of my reservation from AA that I picked up in Chicago and all three airports I would be travelling through on this part of the trip were BA destinations… so if there were any issues I could see an actual person face to face, rather than have to deal with somebody over the phone.

Despite feeling confident that I wouldn’t have any issues, the online check in process didn’t go to plan.

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Pretty much the same issue that caused the trouble in part 3.

After packing my things up and saying my goodbyes to the family I headed out a little earlier than needed in case I had any issues. The traffic was a little heavy around the attractions that was a little concerning. I knew I should have gone the other way!



Arrival at the airport was just past 12 midday and after saying goodbye to the car, I headed off to check in with my fingers crossed.


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Luckily, the machines did have the right name and all was fine today. The SSK printed my boarding passes without any issues.


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There was also this offer once more – I was offered a similar thing in ORD and if I had known about the delay I had suffered there in advance I would have been tempted. But not today.



After declining this, my boarding passes were printed.


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Once I had my boarding passes I went for a wonder around the mall like Orlando international.


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I then headed through security. Even with my priority AAccess it was still chaos. Mainly due to the fast track sharing the same lane as the crew security, and due to them having priority it was a case of constantly being at the end of a queue. I'm not sure I've ever flown from MCO where security wasn't anything but packed.



Once through it was on to the monorail and I grabbed a burger...


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With a view.


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After I had finished, I made my way down to gate 15 to find 757 N680AN waiting for me - with winglets.


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I had a bit of a look around this area to see what else was around. Not a huge amount really, so I sat back down and waited.



Boarding was called at 13:30 and I was one of the first to board this full flight.


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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13318 times:


AA533
MCO-MIA
12th April 2013
757-223 / N680AN
Seat: 21A / Main Cabin
Scheduled: 14:05/15:10
Off Stand: 14:04
On Stand: 15:07


Once onboard, I was surprised at how 1990’s this jet was compared to the other AA examples I had been on in the previous week. Guess the 757’s hadn’t been refurbished.


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Legroom wasn’t too bad for this short flight.


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One guy did sit in the aisle, but then a slightly older Canadian woman came along and he moved over to the middle seat, taking up most of my space. They then got into a pretty deep chat which lasted the entire duration of the time on board. There seemed to be quite a few Brits on board this flight, heading for the connection to LHR. So was I, but I was taking the more interesting route!



Communication from the flight deck was pretty non-existent. The cabin crew announced a flight time of just 44 minutes and a cruising altitude of 22,000ft.

Is it time to go yet?

We pushed back pretty much on schedule and made a slow taxi out to the active.


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At 14:15 we made the characteristic 757 powerful take off into some moody looking skies.


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Not much can be said about this flight really - our apparent routing was down the coast to MIA. The crew weren't seen throughout and the seatbelt signs were never extinguished – and for once, everybody seemed to obey this.


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Retro!



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The only time I knew the flight had progressed as far as it had was when we turned to the West and downtown Miami came into sight.


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Due to the heavy looking clouds around, some of the views were a bit obstructed until we cleared them. Once we had though, it was a few turns until we were on finals for runway 12. In my many visits to MIA, I had never landed on this runway.



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It was then a few turns, as the flaps were extended and the landing gear lowered before making pretty solid contact with the ground at around 15:00.



A fifteen minute taxi followed to gate D3. Along the way I saw a VX A23X with sharklets, the Dreamlifter and John Travolta's 707.


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There was quite a wait to disembark, however once I was off, it was through the length of terminal to my connection to ATL.

ATL is a pretty popular destination it seems!


I took a bit of a walk before jumping on the skytrain to take me the rest of the way to my next gate.


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Turns out taking the skytrain was a good idea as it gave some pretty good views across the ramp!


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Astrojet!


I was concentrating on the Astrojet so much, I almost missed this classic.




After the brief ride, I arrived at the final station and took the short walk down to American Eagles facility.


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Once at gate D60, it was a case of sitting and waiting for an hour or so until boarding. There wasn’t a massive amount in this area – a small shop and that was about it really.



I did see a couple of familiar faces though!


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And a couple that weren’t so familiar.


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This one was heading for Key West – never knew such a flight even existed!


Boarding was called at 16;45, after the ground crew announcing the flight was over sold. First they offered $300, then a few moments later $400, and a seat on a later flight. If I didn't have a connection to make I would have been very tempted by this offer. Shortly after it was outside into the boarding area.



Nobody seemed too sure where to go, so I asked one if the ground staff who pointed me in the right direction. However, upon reaching the right place, there was a barrier and a staff member stopping the boarding process due to the aircraft not quite being ready. It wasn’t an issue though as it was a nice enough place to wait and it was a decent temperature whilst not being uncomfortably hot. A fellow passenger followed me to the right place and we and a chat about my travels and his. He was especially interested in my camera and said it was a great idea to document every part of the trip, so I could look back on it in years to come. Eventually boarding commenced at 17:00.

Confirmation of the reg.



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13285 times:


AA3524
MIA-ATL
12th April 2013
ERJ145 / N656AE
Seat: 4C / Main Cabin
Scheduled: 17:10/19:10
Off Stand: 17:08
On Stand: 18:56



Once on board, it was quite tight, unsurprisingly.


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I did have a seatmate – who spent the entire flight typing on his laptop. I would have preferred one of the single seats, but I was happy to just have a window!

We pushed back a minute or two ahead of schedule and taxied out to the active. Due to the previous departure being a Cargolux 744, we held for quite a while on the runway to avoid any wake turbulence issues. Once we finally spooled up, it was quite a fast takeoff for this little jet.


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Passing the Sunny Isles


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Clouding over again.



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Shortly after departure, the lone cabin crew member, an older but quite good looking blonde with a Hispanic accent started the drinks service. Upon reaching my row, she handed me a beer, courtesy of Mr 1A - the guy who I'd chatted with at the gate - cheers!



The rest of the flight was a little turbulent, and there was quite a bit of cloud around.


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Interesting that American Eagle have their own inflight mag.


Once we reached Northern Florida the clouds cleared.


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A little sooner than expected, descent started. Conditions were pretty good in Atlanta meaning there were some good views to be had. We followed a DL 738 pretty much all the way down.


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Landing was made quite a bit ahead of schedule and we made our way over to concourse T.


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Shortly before arriving at the gate the cabin crew announced a list of connections and what gates they would be departing from, including the flight to London – although no mention of which airline. After disembarking, I had to make my way over to the new concourse F - at the complete opposite end of the airfield to where I already was. I knew that there was a transit, but wasn't brilliantly signposted once you came out of the jetbridge. After some wondering I found my way.


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Arrival at concourse F was a few moments later, and what a fancy terminal it was


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I headed down to the previously announced gate F5, but on the way I spotted this.



Interestingly there wasn't an aircraft on stand yet. I would have thought there would be if everything was running on time? Due to this, I went to see what this new concourse had to offer.


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Upon arriving back at the gate, there still wasn't an aircraft on stand, and now a 35-minute delay was showing. Now I had no more connections to make though, this didn't bother me.



A few moments later G-VIIN arrived.


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I sat and waited for the next hour or so, until I was paged by the ground staff. While I was waiting, I overheard one of the other crew members trying to move people around. I figured I was either being upgraded or thrown off, much like the last time I was paged to go and see somebody. In reality it was neither - my boarding pass was checked, I was asked if I had any checked luggage and everything was handed back to me. Hmm strange.

Boarding was called at just before 21:40. As usual, everybody was either flying in first, club or had frequent flyer status. I eventually made it on board around 22:00 and was pleased to see it was one of the refurbished 777's.



Amazingly, this was my first flight on a 777 of any variant. I've even logged two 787's, so glad I could finally get one in the books!



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13352 times:


BA226
ATL-LHR
12th April 2013
777-236ER / G-VIIN
Seat: 23A / World Traveller Plus
Scheduled: 21:25/10:30
Off Stand: 22:16
On Stand: 11:05



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Once onboard, I settled in, my seat mate turned up, immediately removed his shoes and socks and fell asleep. The fact he was dressed in running gear, and the fact I saw him doing various excursuses in the gate area might have explained the smell… lovely. The flight crew came over the PA announced a quick flying time of 7hours and 10minutes and apologized about the delay, blaming it on the late arrival of the aircraft from London - well yeah, I figured.


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So lets have a quick look around this new BA cabin.


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Handy iPad storage.




New IFE


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Much better noise cancelling headphones



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As I was one of the last to board, it wasn't a very long wait before the engines were started and we pushed back - yes, the engines were started on stand. As we weren't too far from the end of the runway, there was a bit of a hold whilst the cabin was prepared. Eventually at just before 22:40, an hour and fifteen behind schedule, we took off. This was the first time I'd been in a 777 of any variant. I was quite surprised at how quiet it was. A few of the sounds also reminded me if the Dreamliner, so obviously a few shared components - but hopefully not the batteries.


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Shortly after departure, a drinks service was brought around, but no menus this time.


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Then over an hour later, dinner was served. There was a choice of beef or pasta. I chose the pasta, a spinach and mushroom ravioli. Tasted very good.


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After this, I continued to watch the latest James Bond film, and settled down.


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Annoyingly, I missed the end of the film, but I did manage a good sleep, waking up a few hours later.


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Shortly after waking up, I watched an episode of family guy.



And then breakfast was served. Nothing overly special – A granola bar, lemon cake, some raisins and a yogurt drink.


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After this, I was finally released from my seat and I went for a walk down the back - interesting to notice that BA still use the 9 abreast seating on their 777's rather than the more popular 10.


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Pretty small economy cabin


Around forty minutes before arrival, the captain was on informing us of our progress. He also mentioned we would be in the Ockham hold for about five minutes.



Despite the refit, theres still the awkwardly placed IFE boxes.


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It was pretty cloudy, so not much to be seen until on finals at around 3000ft.


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Touchdown was on 27R and we made the short taxi over to T5C.


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There was a bit of a wait to disembark due to a jetty driver not being found. I've had this problem before - surely they know the plane is coming, so why not have all the people in place ready in advance?

Once off, it was on to the transit and up to arrivals.


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Once again I used my e passport to avoid the worst of the queues but it still took around ten minutes to get through. After this, it was to the bus stop for the coach home.


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So conclusions,

British Airways were their typical selves really – especially on the European routes. The World traveller Plus cabin on the 744 felt a little tired, but was sufficient enough. I also feel that priority boarding would have been a good addition, that wouldn’t cost a thing. However the updated product on the 777 was very comfortable indeed and felt a lot more roomy and comfortable.

American Airlines are a funny airline really. Their ground staff really weren’t anything special at all – especially in my hour of need at Washington. I also feel they could have handled the delay in Chicago a little better than they did. The flight crew were the complete opposite though. Seems like there’s just niggling little things stopping them from being a good airline. Although not having travelled with the likes of Delta, United, Jetblue etc. from reading reports from them, they all appear to have the edge service wise.

Previous trip reports

USA 2013 Pt 4: Heading South On A Mad Dog ORD-MCO (by jwhite9185 Jun 13 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 3: Almost A Disaster With AA DCA-ORD (by jwhite9185 May 29 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 2: BA A320/744 WTP CDG-LHR-IAD (by jwhite9185 May 14 2013 in Trip Reports)
USA 2013 Pt 1: The Beginning BA LHR-ORY (by jwhite9185 Apr 20 2013 in Trip Reports)
Comparing The Competition: BA/VS Inaugural MAN-LHR (by jwhite9185 Mar 31 2013 in Trip Reports)
Taking TAP To Portugal: LGW-OPO-LIS-LHR Feb. 2013 (by jwhite9185 Mar 10 2013 in Trip Reports)
Poland On The Dream)liner - LOT LHR-WAW-LHR In C/Y (by jwhite9185 Jan 1 2013 in Trip Reports)
A Speedbird & Titan 767 – LHR-LCA-LHR In C…ish (by jwhite9185 Feb 1 2013 in Trip Reports)
British Airways LGW-AGP-LCY 737/E190 Nov. 2012 (by jwhite9185 Dec 1 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part 2: 5 Flights 3 Airlines MXP-ZRH-DUS-LHR LX/LH (by jwhite9185 Nov 14 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part 1: 5 Flights 3 Airlines LHR-BRU-MXP In Theory (by jwhite9185 Oct 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Cancellations, Widebodies And Iberia LHR-MAD-LHR (by jwhite9185 Oct 17 2012 in Trip Reports)
Virgin Atlantic's New A330 LHR-JFK-LHR (by jwhite9185 Sep 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Night In Amsterdam - KLM F70/738 LHR-AMS-LHR (by jwhite9185 Aug 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
Trying Out Flybe - LGW-BHD-GLA-BHD-LGW (by jwhite9185 Jul 11 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Day Trip To MAN (by jwhite9185 Jun 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Nice, Monaco And The Great British Lounge With BMI (by jwhite9185 May 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
EI237/182 LGW-DUB-LHR And 2 Lounges (by jwhite9185 Apr 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
LGW-FRA-BRU-LHR With LH And SN (by jwhite9185 Mar 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
BA906/8735 LHR-FRA-LCY (by jwhite9185 Mar 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
VS015/016 LGW-MCO-LGW June 2010 (by jwhite9185 Jan 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
VS006 MIA-LHR A340-642 June 2008 (by jwhite9185 Feb 10 2012 in Trip Reports)
Virgin Atlantic 747 To BGI - October 2007 (by jwhite9185 Aug 3 2012 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinevisualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12608 times:

Nice one! Thanks for such a good series. The wing/flaps/trailing edges on that B777 are filthy!  

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5766 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12416 times:

Nice report, thanks for posting.

Man, that is a dirty 777 wing! Needs a good scour.

Also, it's worth noting that the AA 757 overhead PSU that you label "retro" is actually not retro. Granted, color choice may be a bit old school, but that's a current, in production piece, and fitted to all 737NG aircraft without the Sky Interior.
The truly old one was the ATI interior... with big, 1980's clunky pushbuttons!


User currently offlinejoacocifuentes From Argentina, joined Sep 2012, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12257 times:

Hello! Great report, thank you for sharing. The AA 757 is very old but I guess this might be because they use it for the short hop from MIA to MCO and viceversa and nowbody cares about the plane. When flew this route the interior of tha plane was exactly the same!

User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11676 times:

Great report! I've enjoyed following the series. I'm glad that you were able to check in okay this time. The thing that caught my eye in this report was the DL A330 at MCO. Were you there when DL was evacuating the stranded cruise ship passengers? I don't know of any other reason for that plane to be at MCO, unless it was subbing for a domestic 767 or a one-time upgauge for spring break crowds.


Coming Up: BZN-MSP-ORD-FCO-VIE-CDG-SLC-BZN
User currently offlineTheAviator380 From UK - England, joined Feb 2013, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11317 times:

Food Does look decent and so as IFE on your BA flight. That seems newly fitted cabin altogether? BA might need to clean that 777 lol. Breakfast could be little better, why give that Yogurt milk to everyone?? unlike cakes, yogurt is not universally popular thing I suppose.

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11191 times:

Hi James,

interesting last part of your series! BA's product looks fine, the new seat backs are a bit bland, though.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Upon reaching my row, she handed me a beer, courtesy of Mr 1A - the guy who I'd chatted with at the gate - cheers!

Nice!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
This was the first time I'd been in a 777 of any variant. I was quite surprised at how quiet it was.

Quiet 777? Are you sure you didn't listen to music or anything else? Or did they shut down the engine on your side?' 

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
After this, I was finally released from my seat and I went for a walk down the back - interesting to notice that BA still use the 9 abreast seating on their 777's rather than the more popular 10.

Let's see how long this will last.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7140 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11038 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):
Once on board, it was quite tight, unsurprisingly.
Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
I would have preferred one of the single seats,

I always try to the get the single seat when flying on the ERJ and IMO the single seat is great. Leg Room on the ERJ is fantastic. In all honestly with my Ipad I would rather fly in a A seat on en ERJ to say LAX than on a 757 or 738. Very comfortable plane.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Passing the Sunny Isles

Great pics of Miami. In that one of Sunny Isles, "Little Moscow" I can see where I am typing this at work right now 



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1679 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10864 times:
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Hiya J,

Nice closing part of your series and good to see that you was able to continue the journey without any major hassles. A ride on the ‘57 and a tiny Jungle Jet makes a good variety. And congrats on your maide ‘77 flight. The new cabin looks really good imo, to the point and stylish, I really like the minimalistic seatback design. Btw some very nice footage on arrival and departure of MIA!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Luckily, the machines did have the right name and all was fine today.

Lol, it’s not like it’s very easy to misspell your name, is it? Pretty straightforward, even to me  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Once onboard, I was surprised at how 1990’s this jet was

With the seat covers it even looks more so. The seats have a very carpet-y feeling about them (and thus must contain nasty bugs lol).

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
He was especially interested in my camera

Yours that’s bigger than mine or your pocket one?

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Hmm strange.

There goes you upgrade, damn it 

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Despite the refit, theres still the awkwardly placed IFE boxes.

Makes you wonder as there are carriers who are able to hide those totally. Shouldn’t be so hard imo?

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10727 times:

visualapproach,

Quoting visualapproach (Reply 4):
Nice one! Thanks for such a good series.
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Nice report, thanks for posting.
Quoting joacocifuentes (Reply 6):
Hello! Great report, thank you for sharing.

Thanks, no problem,

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Man, that is a dirty 777 wing! Needs a good scour.
Quoting visualapproach (Reply 4):
The wing/flaps/trailing edges on that B777 are filthy!
Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 8):
BA might need to clean that 777 lol.

That was my first thought as soon as it was light enough outside to see it.

AA737-823

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Also, it's worth noting that the AA 757 overhead PSU that you label "retro" is actually not retro. Granted, color choice may be a bit old school, but that's a current, in production piece, and fitted to all 737NG aircraft without the Sky Interior.

Seemed to fit in with the rest of the plane.

joacocifuentes

Quoting joacocifuentes (Reply 6):
The AA 757 is very old but I guess this might be because they use it for the short hop from MIA to MCO and viceversa and nowbody cares about the plane.

This one went off to South America after - so I guess they're used all over.

redzeppelin,

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 7):
Great report! I've enjoyed following the series.

Thanks - I'll be starting another series shortly!

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 7):
The thing that caught my eye in this report was the DL A330 at MCO. Were you there when DL was evacuating the stranded cruise ship passengers? I don't know of any other reason for that plane to be at MCO, unless it was subbing for a domestic 767 or a one-time upgauge for spring break crowds.

Interesting to know - Didn't know there was anything special about it in all honesty - I just snapped it because it was the only thing that was around!

TheAviator380

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 8):
Food Does look decent and so as IFE on your BA flight.

Both sectors had good food, but it think the outbound from LHR-IAD was better - although I've always thought the food Ex UK was better than on return. The IFE was much better than the older on on the 744.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 8):
Breakfast could be little better, why give that Yogurt milk to everyone?? unlike cakes, yogurt is not universally popular thing I suppose.

Similar to what I had on VS last year. Guess its the standard.

PH

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
interesting last part of your series!

Thanks,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
BA's product looks fine, the new seat backs are a bit bland, though.

The new product is much better - I though the seat back was fine though - not cluttered like some.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Quiet 777? Are you sure you didn't listen to music or anything else? Or did they shut down the engine on your side?'

I'm used to 747's!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Let's see how long this will last.

I woud think a while as this one had just been refitted. I'd imagine that if they were going to reconfig, they would have done it all in one go.

flymia

Quoting flymia (Reply 10):
I always try to the get the single seat when flying on the ERJ and IMO the single seat is great. Leg Room on the ERJ is fantastic. In all honestly with my Ipad I would rather fly in a A seat on en ERJ to say LAX than on a 757 or 738. Very comfortable plane.

I found it a little cramped due to the fact I was struggling to get bits out of my bag when I was seated. No doubt if I had no seat mate, I would have a different opinion. I didn't get to choose what seat I had, so was just happy to have a window. Would have preferred to have an A seat though.

Quoting flymia (Reply 10):
Great pics of Miami. In that one of Sunny Isles, "Little Moscow" I can see where I am typing this at work right now

I recognised it straight away - stayed there many times - in the Thunderbird Inn on Collins Ave. One of the few buildings that isn't a high rise along there now!

Nils,

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Nice closing part of your series

Thanks,

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
good to see that you was able to continue the journey without any major hassles.

Yeah, I was confident that I wouldn't due to the confirmation I got from AA in ORD.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
A ride on the ‘57 and a tiny Jungle Jet makes a good variety.

Another reason why these sectors appealed to me - 12 years since my last 757 ride and my first on the E145.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
The new cabin looks really good imo, to the point and stylish, I really like the minimalistic seatback design.

Agreed.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Btw some very nice footage on arrival and departure of MIA!

Thanks!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Lol, it’s not like it’s very easy to misspell your name, is it? Pretty straightforward, even to me

I believe they had me down as Jenna White. Thats what was printed on my BP in DCA, as well as the SSCI machine there.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
With the seat covers it even looks more so. The seats have a very carpet-y feeling about them

The MD80 and 737 I went on had a similar design, but with a leather headrest. Such a small detail makes all the difference.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Yours that’s bigger than mine or your pocket one?

My pocket camcorder!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
There goes you upgrade, damn it

You win some, you lose some...

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Makes you wonder as there are carriers who are able to hide those totally. Shouldn’t be so hard imo?

Especially as this is their latest product. The EK A380 I was on a couple of weeks later had nothing at all under the seats, so it can be done. But you'll have to wait a couple for weeks for that story!



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Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10474 times:

Hi James

Great report once again. Haven't been reading too many reports lately, I think I missed part 4... But i'll find and read it later.

I haven't been to MIA in long while and my Mum is on her way back from there as I write this. Would love to go there again.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):
Upon reaching my row, she handed me a beer, courtesy of Mr 1A - the guy who I'd chatted with at the gate - cheers!

That was really nice of him 
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 2):
Amazingly, this was my first flight on a 777 of any variant. I've even logged two 787's, so glad I could finally get one in the books!

Really? A bit surprising, though Ive yet to log many aircraft types myself... No 787s for yet.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Once onboard, I settled in, my seat mate turned up, immediately removed his shoes and socks and fell asleep. The fact he was dressed in running gear, and the fact I saw him doing various excursuses in the gate area might have explained the smell… lovely.

That's unfortunate...

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
So lets have a quick look around this new BA cabin.

It looks nice in my opinion, the IFE looks miles better than what they use to offer especially the maps! I hope they refitted the LGW ones.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
This was the first time I'd been in a 777 of any variant. I was quite surprised at how quiet it was. A few of the sounds also reminded me if the Dreamliner

I actually said the same thing on my first BA 777 flight a couple years ago. I love the GE90 start up though!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Shortly after departure, a drinks service was brought around, but no menus this time.

Do they usually have menus in WTP? Im still surprised VS had in Y.

Anyway thanks for sharing this report. Looking forward to your next one.



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Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10436 times:

Hi Yvan,

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
Great report once again.

Thanks,

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
I haven't been to MIA in long while and my Mum is on her way back from there as I write this. Would love to go there again.

I've not been in quite a while actually - shame I couldn't squeeze in at least one night on this trip.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
That was really nice of him

It really was! Wanted to catch him on arrival to thank him personally, but he was long gone.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
Really? A bit surprising, though Ive yet to log many aircraft types myself

Nearly all my Longhaul flying previously has been with VS. So I've got plenty of 744's in the log - in fact if I were to go on G-VROC, I will have been on every VS 744, including the recently retired G-VTOP.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
That's unfortunate...

No the best seat mate I've had to say the least.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
It looks nice in my opinion, the IFE looks miles better than what they use to offer especially the maps!

Miles ahead of the older product on the 744. Glad I got the old before the new, or I would have been a bit disappointed rather than impressed on the return!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
I actually said the same thing on my first BA 777 flight a couple years ago. I love the GE90 start up though!

Must agree. Lucky enough to go on a couple more GE90 birds a few weeks after too.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
Do they usually have menus in WTP?

They did on the outbound.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
Im still surprised VS had in Y.

Relatively new addition. They started giving them out again when they relaunched their meal service a year or two ago.



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Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10310 times:

Hello James

Nice ending of the trip report seriers! Good you did not have the same havoc as in Washington earlier.
Terminal F in Atlanta looks pretty nice actually, have been there myself in december.
Did not realize that BA started to retrofit the 772 as well with the newer seats, they do look really nice.

Greetings
Marc



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Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10264 times:
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Hi James,

Nice to read the final instalment, quite happy I did it in good time too, I don't seem to have as much free time for A.NET these days, my own TR's are running very behind.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Amazingly, this was my first flight on a 777 of any variant. I've even logged two 787's, so glad I could finally get one in the books!

- Wow, first 777 flight, you did a good job avoiding these, I try to where possible, give me an A330/340 0r 767 anyday!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
The fact he was dressed in running gear, and the fact I saw him doing various excursuses in the gate area might have explained the smell… lovely

- Nice!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Then over an hour later, dinner was served. There was a choice of beef or pasta. I chose the pasta, a spinach and mushroom ravioli. Tasted very good

- Good, looks pretty terrible but taste is more important.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
breakfast was served. Nothing overly special – A granola bar, lemon cake, some raisins and a yogurt drink.

- No but not bad considering some of the rubbish offerings in Y these days.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
BA still use the 9 abreast seating on their 777's rather than the more popular 10.

- YAY!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17063 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10107 times:

Nice trip report. I am actually a bit relieved to see that other A.nutters do some crazy routings across the pond. Have done several similar routings, such as ARN-AMS-BOS-DTW-LAX, ARN-CDG-SFO-SLC-BUR, ARN-LHR-PHL-DFW-LAX, LAX-SAN-MSP-AMS-ARN and so on. They can be tiring, but definitely fun, especially when you check in and the agent thinks you are crazy.

Quoting joacocifuentes (Reply 6):

Hello! Great report, thank you for sharing. The AA 757 is very old but I guess this might be because they use it for the short hop from MIA to MCO and viceversa and nowbody cares about the plane. When flew this route the interior of tha plane was exactly the same!


Actually, as far as I know all of AA's domestic 757s have the same cabin layout. About two weeks ago I flew on one of their 757s to HNL, and it was the same big chunky TVs running some movie I didn't even bother with.



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9589 times:

Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Nice ending of the trip report seriers!

Thanks

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Good you did not have the same havoc as in Washington earlier.

Indeed!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Did not realize that BA started to retrofit the 772 as well with the newer seats, they do look really nice.

Yeah they are a big improvement. I knew some were done, but don't know how many or which ones. So had no idea until I was actually in the WTP cabin. Nice surprise.

Mark,

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 16):
Nice to read the final instalment

Thanks,

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 16):
Wow, first 777 flight, you did a good job avoiding these, I try to where possible, give me an A330/340 0r 767 anyday!

As I mentioned earlier, since the 777 entered service, nearly all of my longhaul flying has been on VS. I did come close to flying a UA example back in 1995, but it was subbed for a 767 - guess they had teething issues!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 16):
Good, looks pretty terrible but taste is more important.

I've noticed the same with all food ex. USA - guess presentation isn't the American caterers strong point.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 16):
No but not bad considering some of the rubbish offerings in Y these days.

Similar to what was served on VS last year.

B747forever,

Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
Nice trip report.

Thanks,

Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
I am actually a bit relieved to see that other A.nutters do some crazy routings across the pond.

Makes it more interesting for sure.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
They can be tiring, but definitely fun

Agreed - there was a point in ORD where I was thinking, not again!

Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
Actually, as far as I know all of AA's domestic 757s have the same cabin layout. About two weeks ago I flew on one of their 757s to HNL, and it was the same big chunky TVs running some movie I didn't even bother with.

Indeed - nothing special about this one - in need of a refit!



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9470 times:
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Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 18):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 16):
Good, looks pretty terrible but taste is more important.

I've noticed the same with all food ex. USA - guess presentation isn't the American caterers strong point.

- You make a good point there James, something I have notices with catering from numerous US airports.

Cheers

Mark



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Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8845 times:
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Great final report of your travels! What a day of traveling - MCO-MIA-ATL-LHR!

Food looks really good on the BA flight; I hope to try World Traveler Plus sometime!

I remember being at MCO and seeing a A300 board for MIA back when they flew them; I'm not surprised you didn't get anything, but I just returned from flying Horizon Air from Pasco, WA to Seattle and on a 30 minute flight they managed to do a service. I guess it depends on the day ...

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew


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Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8614 times:

767747,

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Great final report of your travels!

Thanks

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
What a day of traveling - MCO-MIA-ATL-LHR!

True, althoguh didnt seem all that bad - I guess leaving mid morning and having long-ish layovers in MIA and ATL meant it was pretty relaxed.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Food looks really good on the BA flight; I hope to try World Traveler Plus sometime!

Hopefully you can get the new cabin - much better than the older product.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
I remember being at MCO and seeing a A300 board for MIA back when they flew them

I'd forgotten that they used the A300's on that route. Happy enough to get a 757 though.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
I'm not surprised you didn't get anything, but I just returned from flying Horizon Air from Pasco, WA to Seattle and on a 30 minute flight they managed to do a service. I guess it depends on the day ...

I'd flown with BA and VS LHR-MAN-LHR the week previously, which was a 30 minute flight and got service on both. Although VS only just managed it!

I think the crew mentioned there was service in first on the AA flight.



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Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8230 times:
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Hello James,

Great last part to your series here! Good to see you faced no problems with AA this time   I will actually be flying the AA 757 MCO-MIA in September, it sure is a short flight! BAs new WTP looks quite nice!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
There was also this offer once more – I was offered a similar thing in ORD and if I had known about the delay I had suffered there in advance I would have been tempted. But not today.

50$?! quite expensive if you ask me!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
ATL is a pretty popular destination it seems!

Delta vs. AA!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
This one was heading for Key West – never knew such a flight even existed!

I was very tempted of booking this flight actually, but once I wanted to book the price went sky high!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Thread starter):
Upon reaching my row, she handed me a beer, courtesy of Mr 1A - the guy who I'd chatted with at the gate - cheers!

That is nice of him, shame it's a Miller lite though..

Thanks for putting this series up, really enjoyed it!

cheers,

Brendan


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Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8216 times:

Great report again! MIA is indeed a good airport to do some aircraft watching from the Skytrain. Interesting that AA sends an Eagle RJ to ATL, I believe DL flies mostlty 757's on the route. The new terminal in ATL looks great!

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Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8175 times:

Hi Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
Great last part to your series here!

Thanks,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
will actually be flying the AA 757 MCO-MIA in September, it sure is a short flight!

Yeah, dont get too comfortable! It was about an hour block time.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
BAs new WTP looks quite nice!

It was. Looks like the same is being fitted on their 787's and A380's.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
50$?! quite expensive if you ask me!

A bit pricey... another reason why I didn't bother!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
Delta vs. AA!

With DL winning once you get to ATL!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
I was very tempted of booking this flight actually, but once I wanted to book the price went sky high!

Dont you hate it when that happens!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
That is nice of him, shame it's a Miller lite though..

Still went down well!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 22):
Thanks for putting this series up, really enjoyed it!

No problem

Robert,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 23):
Great report again!

Thanks,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 23):
MIA is indeed a good airport to do some aircraft watching from the Skytrain.

Yeah, that was the first time I'd been on it in all my visits.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 23):
Interesting that AA sends an Eagle RJ to ATL

Guess it makes more sense to send one of those every hour then to send a 757 twice a day.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 23):
The new terminal in ATL looks great!

It was pretty good. Not to big, not too small.



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25 kann123air : Nope, I flew N901AN last week without the sky interior and it had new TV monitors, the ones that drop down. Nice TR! I like the new TVs on BA.... Las
26 jwhite9185 : kann123air Now that you mention it, the AA 738 featured in part 3 of this series was more modern, despite not having the sky interior. Thanks, Yeah th
27 FLIEGER67 : Hi, J., good to see the final part of you´re US series. These AA 757 looks like really retro and also good to follow that everything worked out well
28 jwhite9185 : Hi Markus, I was surprised at how 1990's it looked. Still in good enough condition though. It was a relief once I had all my boarding passes in hand w
29 gabrielchew : Nice report James! Nice that you managed to get on one of the newly done 772s - the WTP cabin looks nice, although I'm not sure I like the map layout.
30 Post contains images IrishAyes : Hey James! Thanks for the TR! Great report and super well-written description of the experiences on-board AA and BA. Seems to be the usual OneWorld su
31 LH4116 : Nice report James! Looks like you had a decent flight on BA's new WTP. The seats certainly look nicer than the old ones, and it's nice to see that the
32 jwhite9185 : Hi Gabriel, Thanks, Miles ahead of the 747 I flew out on. Was a nice surprise too as although I knew a few of the 772's had been refurbed I had no ide
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