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A Weekend Up North: MAN And Its Isle  
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5713 times:

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Dear readers,

Welcome to my latest trip report.

My last one covered a cross-Channel hop on BA’s 767 back in February:
BA & The 767 Across The Channel (by infodesk May 18 2013 in Trip Reports)

I did two trips in March, both with easyJet: one of the usual visits over to England BSL-MAN and then BSL-PMI for some Easter sunshine. I was lucky to book the Palma tickets at a very fair price considering it was a holiday weekend and we left the 5C of Basel behind for 20+C in Majorca. Perfect.

There have already been some reports about the a.net meet we had in Manchester in April, kindly organised by fellow member MSS658. It was clear I just had to attend a meeting at my second most logged airport. I first considered taking SQ’s MUC-MAN service, which would have meant an overnight stop in Munich. Anyway, eventually I booked KLM flying ZRH-AMS-MAN and returning a week later, as I planned to combine the meeting with a family visit. The KLM flight turned out to be a good decision, as there ended up being 5 a.netters on this flight, so it was sure to be an unforgettable occasion. Not only that, fellow member Markus & I decided to do a side trip to the Isle of Man on the Sunday, so there was plenty to look forward to this weekend.

OLCI worked fine on the Friday morning and during the process I was offered an upgrade to Business class on the ZRH-AMS leg for 80CHF. Having recently read Knightsofmalta’s report in KL’s European C-Class product, I thought I’d treat myself and give it a try. There was no offer on the AMS-MAN flight. This looked like it would be completely full.

Apologies in advance for the blob visible on quite a few of the photos. Must be a speck of dust but I didn’t notice it at the time.

Saturday 6th April

This time I use public transport, bus & train, to get to the airport. It’s an uneventful journey, except for a drunk woman who gets on the bus. Thankfully she doesn’t sit next to me, but goes and bothers another passenger who has remarkable patience with her confused ramblings.

I arrive at Zurich at 10:00, print off my boarding passes from the machine and then head up to Check-in 2 to hand my case in. The location of the KLM desks mean there is no hiding from my colleagues, so I stop to chat. Of course they wonder why I’m flying via AMS when I could go direct and a few perplexed looks follow.
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This time I can legitimately use the business lane at security which saves some time, I make a quick purchase in duty free (where I have to remind them of the correct discount, again) and then go to the Skyteam lounge. The lounge is bigger than I expect but there’s few people in it and it’s deadly quiet. Neither of the computers are working which creates a bad impression.

Entrance


Lounge view

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Tea and biscuits
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Not a huge amount on offer
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Go to gate for me


My first chariot for today
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ZRH-AMS
KL1958
B737-700 PH-BGK
STD 11.55/ATD 12:17
STA 13:30/ATA 13:26
Gate B31
Seat 2A-Business


Boarding starts at 11:30 and is a bit of a mess. It’s reminiscent of the old easyJet days.
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View from 2A
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Once boarding is completed the purser comes round to all the C-Class passengers and tells us that unfortunately not enough meals were loaded in AMS. Therefore of the 7 of us, only 2 are going to get the full meal, the rest have to make do with the sandwich. One guy is pretty cross about this, he, like myself, purchased the upgrade during OLCI. I tell the purser I’m disappointed, but what can one do? He handles the situation very well, apologises profusely and says he understands our annoyance.

Newspapers are offered but there are none that take my fancy so I pass.

Dock A
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And Dock E
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As we are taxiing to the runway, some woman further back decides it would be a good idea to stand up and take her bag out of the locker. Well, the cabin crew give her a stern telling off and everyone turns round to stare.

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We reach runway 28, but the pilot informs us that we’re going to have a little wait as SQ’s A380 is about to take off. He explains about wake turbulence which is a nice touch. Sadly, I only catch a brief glimpse of the bird that took us to Singapore a year earlier.

Nearly ready
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Dedicated to RogerBCN
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ZRH’s mini Fokker farm
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Take off


A murky day in Zurich


There’s always sun above the clouds
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Legroom
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Today’s route:
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I get given our meal, or rather half of it, pretty quickly. There’s a choice of sandwich, I opt for tomato & mozzarella as the other one has meat in it. It’s generous and tasty, but I didn’t pay for business just to get a sandwich. Sadly my picture didn’t come out too well. Maybe it will feature somewhere else in this report? I had an OJ to drink

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Followed by a cup of tea


Not far to go
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On approach into AMS I’m treated to some really beautiful views of the coastline. This is a real delight, as most of my approaches into Amsterdam so far have been in the dark. It’s windy and the plane shakes about quite a bit.


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Moving map
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More views

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Landing is at 13.24 and we have a very short taxi to our stand

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A quiet day at the Fokker farm
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C pier
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Welcome to AMS
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AMSTERDAM
I’m becoming a bit of a regular in Amsterdam, so know where I’m heading: passport control and then the D gates
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FIDS


We’ve arranged to meet outside the KLM Non-Schengen Lounge and as I reach it I can already see Roger waiting, so we have a good chat. Shortly after Suryo joins us & brings delicious muffins for us all and finally Markus & Brendan emerge from the lounge and our little group is complete.

We stroll down to the gate together, passing this beauty on the way
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Arrival at D43, there’s only a short queue for security


After security, when I have my boarding pass scanned there is the ominous beep. The penny doesn’t drop even when I’m handed a new ticket, until I look at it and see I’m now sitting in business. I wonder whether this is to make up for what happened on the previous leg, but once I see Brendan & Markus also receiving a new boarding pass all becomes clear. It seems that a certain member of the group made some enquiries in the lounge and told them about our special trip so hey presto: those of us with status were upgraded. Thank you Markus! What a shame that Roger & Suryo couldn’t join in the fun too.

AMS-MAN
KL1087
PH-BGG B737-700
STD 14:45/ATD 15:10
STA 15:05/ATA 15:00
Gate D43
Seat 2A- Business


The A.netters bird for today’s flight
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We push back at our STD and are welcomed on board. Our flight time is estimated to be an hour and the Captain informs us we’ll have a lengthy taxi to runway 36L, otherwise known as Polderbaan. We’ll take off to the North, turn left over the North Sea and make landfall near Humberside. Distance to fly today is just under 500km.

Local traffic
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Something a bit bigger…
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…more modern…
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…and more exotic
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A queue for the runway
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At 15:10 we start our take off roll. Bye AMS, see you next week!

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Sitting in 2C is a middle-aged German woman, her partner is across the aisle in 2D. She is certainly somewhat intrigued by my behaviour: talking between seats to Markus in 1A, taking photographs of everything in sight and waving across to Brendan in 2F. She’s probably asking herself what loony she’s been seated next to!

For a one hour flight, the meal we get is really delicious. I have the same tomato & mozzarella sandwich, there are crudités with a divine chive dip and a really heavenly kind of trifle to follow. I clear my tray. All I can say is what a pity I missed out on the ZRH flight.
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Beautiful cutlery


The service is of a high standard, with the girl working the C-Class cabin being very attentive.

Reaching the UK
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Clouds like cotton wool balls
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Almost a straight line
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Tea and a tasty Dutch speciality. Interestingly I didn’t get given a stirrer or a biscuit on the ZRH-AMS leg, although that was a longer flight and the crew had more time.
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The last patches of snow are visible across the Pennines


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A good spotting location: the car park at Sainsbury’s/John Lewis at Cheadle
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Nearly there!
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Some A.netters were waving to us from the Viewing Park!
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One of the bigger visitors to MAN
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One very orange easyJet
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Thanks PH-BGG for the memorable flight!
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"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

MANCHESTER

Between Arrivals and reaching the hotel we bump into several of the gang, some of whom are sadly departing before we’ve even had chance to say hi properly.

All of us except Suryo had booked the Radisson at the airport. I’ve always fancied trying this hotel so it seemed an excellent opportunity. I think the staff are a bit taken back at the 4 of us all requesting a high floor, airport view, but nevertheless the check-in process is a smooth and friendly process. After dumping our bags we meet up in the bar on the 9th floor, where there are some amazing apron views to be had. It’s great to see so many familiar and a few new faces and the sun is really strong through the glass, so a few of us end up with red cheeks.

My room on the 6th floor
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Didn’t expect to find Swisscom in a UK hotel
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My view (taken the next morning)
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Fellow member Always on a Plane (Lee) and myself are designated tourguide as we’re the locals so we set off for a night on the town, taking the train from the airport to Piccadilly. Well, I might use the airport a lot, but it’s 10 years since I was last in Manchester city centre and it takes a while until I get my bearings back. Lee, thankfully, knows where he’s going though, and after peering and walking out a couple of establishments we eventually get lucky in Zinc, where they can provide a table for the group. Lee tries explaining to the waitress about the special occasion & how certain people in the group have flown really crazy routings to get here. She nods her head in interest, but is probably secretly thinking we’re bunch of nutters  

Saturdays nights out in any city in the UK are usually a colourful affair and tonight is no different. I’m definitely the only female around not in a miniskirt and who is wearing a coat & scarf. For our train ride back to the airport we end up on some very antiquated stock and have the whole carriage to ourselves.

Before heading to bed there’s time for a final drink in the Radisson, with a super night time view of MAN, perfect.

Sunday

It’s another early start on Sunday morning as I arranged to pick up a hire car at 07:45. Markus & I meet up for breakfast which is quite an impressive spread:
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Anyone for bread rolls?
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On leaving the hotel we spot the SQ bird which some a.netters are going to board
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After that we take the free shuttle bus over to the car hire village. Whilst this set up may make life easier for the staff compared to having offices in all three terminals as it used to be, it’s an absolute pain for passengers and wastes so much time. Thankfully it’s quiet at this time on Sunday and at least I don’t have to wait at the desk. I’m secretly hoping for a nice upgrade like I got last time, but my luck’s not in today and I get handed the keys to a VW Golf which I’ve had before.

Considering our flight isn’t until lunchtime, you may wonder why the early start. Well, I decided that a bit of sightseeing would be nice and suggested that we take a brief tour of Chester, my hometown. Our time is limited, thanks to Flybe bringing our flight time forward (this caused Markus a bit of a headache, see his report), so we don’t have much more than one hour to explore. I decide for a shortened circuit of the city walls, which comprise the most complete Roman and medieval defensive town wall system in Britain, followed by a visit to the cathedral.


You can find more pictures in Markus’ report here:
"Give Me Five Tripreporters For Man" (by FLIEGER67 Jun 15 2013 in Trip Reports)

After this flying visit it’s back in the hire car along the M56 towards Liverpool airport, where we make a brief supermarket stop so someone can stock up on some English store cupboard essentials.

LIVERPOOL

Welcome to JLA as it’s known
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We check-in without any problems, except for the usual odd looks when we make our seat request.

FIDS (with our flight at the original time again)


EZY & FR dominate here
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View from the upper level
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The airport is named after this local guy


View across to the airport hotel
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Off to departures
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Arrived a bit late at the airport? Pay for fast track security: £4


As we pass through security, Markus is treated to a lesson in Northern greetings, where all women are referred to as “love” and all men as “mate”. (All right love? Any liquids love? You can go through love, thanks love. Hello mate! Gotta laptop mate? Any liquids mate? Have a good flight mate etc.…..you get the idea)

Duty free
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More shopping
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Some of the dingy gates down in the basement
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Today’s ride across the Irish sea
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At Liverpool there’s a new business lounge, which I don’t remember from my previous visit (or maybe I just didn’t notice it). As the Diners logo is displayed, Markus decides to make some enquiries. The lady working in the lounge is very friendly and tells us that to take a guest in it will cost £16. I insist that Markus should use the lounge and I’ll wait outside, but he insists that no, he’s not leaving me alone (well, I’m not familiar with airports, I might get lost  ). We decline and thank the lady. As Markus is packing his card away, she turns to me and says “Aww, aren’t you lucky to have such a lovely husband. Mine would never do that, he’d tell me to wait outside!” For a brief moment, I contemplate telling her the long complicated truth concerning this weekend trip, all about a.net and how we are now flying to the Isle of Man for 3 hours, just for fun. However, I opt for the easy way out and just smile sweetly, nod & bid her goodbye.

So we head to Starbucks where I have a Chai Latte and we chat until it’s time to board.

LPL-IOM
BE604
G-ECOO Dash8-400
STD 12:35/ATD 12:52
STA 13:15/ATA 13:19
Gate 30
Seat 21D


Boarding is called at 12:20 but we have rather a long wait on board due to refueling. As have a seat neighbour we move right down to the back of the aircraft. The two FAs, Carol & Louise introduce themselves and tell us that our flying time today will be a speedy 25minutes. We get a brief word from the cockpit too and it’s pleasant surprise to hear that the Captain is female. The load is about 50%, including a few women returning from the Grand National, all clutching big hats.

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Neighbour
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Up close
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Last preparations


BOB menu
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Legroom
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Adverts


Cabin shot
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Pushback is at 12:45 and there’s a short taxi to runway 09, where we take off to the East at 12:52. We bank & fly out over the Wirral peninsular & Liverpool and across the Irish Sea. You can see the North Wales coast for some time and the hills of Snowdonia, but because of the murky conditions my photos don’t really come out.

Turning
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Up & over the Mersey
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Liverpool
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Wallasey on the left
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Beach at New Brighton
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The tip of the Wirral peninsular
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The Dee estuary & North Wales


Hoylake


Hilbre Island, which you can walk to from West Kirby at low tide
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The crew are released just 2 minutes after take off, so that they have time to do the BOB service, but on this short flight there aren’t many takers.

First glimpse of the Isle


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We land after less than 20minutes of flight.

Exotic traffic!
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ISLE OF MAN
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Arriving at Ronaldsway airport is like stepping back in time: it’s so dated but somehow has its own little charm.

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Not bad for a small airport
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At least they renovated the information desk!
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We proceed to the check-in desks and try and get our seats for the return legs. At first the desk don’t seem to be (wo)manned, but a lady does eventually show up. She’s very friendly with a an American accent, the last thing you expect to hear at such an airport. She’s not bothered by our strange seat requests, even turning the computer to show us the seat map. A big thumbs up here!
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We don’t have a huge amount of time, but with the bus timetable and some help from the information desk we realise we can make it to Douglas and back, with about 10minutes to explore. We have about 15 minutes to wait until the bus comes.

The 3 legs of Man
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The bus driver is a jolly chap, we ask about a day return and he informs us that if we’d come 2 days earlier it would have been cheaper, as the fares just went up. Markus thinks that this is another example of Northern humour, but sure enough, we subsequently spot the following poster:


It’s a scenic bus ride, very rural in parts, before we reach the small suburbs of Douglas and soon my fastest ever sightseeing tour begins:
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The promenade

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Thankfully we get a different bus driver on the return journey, I don’t fancy having to explain why we only spent 10 minutes in the town before returning!

Before long we are back at the airport and head through security. In Departures there is a lounge so Markus decides to try his luck at guesting me in. The lady seems unsure as to how the system works with Diners and can’t tell us whether the account will be charged. Well, why complicate things? She whispers that she’ll let me be her guest & won’t charge. I am quite overwhelmed by her act of kindness and we settle down to a cup of tea and some very fine cookies.

Departures
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The lounge
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The offerings
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The yummy cookies
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Lounge view: dedicated to all those who have flown to/from the Isle on the Let
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King William’s College
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It’s vital that Markus’ flight goes on time if he’s any chance of making his connection in Manchester. Although the boarding doesn’t start promptly, it’s a quick procedure. The same woman that checked us in is working at the gate for the MAN flight. There are 2 BE Dash on the tarmac, one them is the aircraft that brought us here and this is the other one. Who’s going to get the new registration?

After a few goodbyes it becomes clear that Markus is going to head to MAN on the aircraft that brought us from LPL. Well, you can’t win them all! http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/hanval/Manchester%20Anet/Manchester13110.jpg

BA on taxi
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IOM-LPL
BE605
G-ECOE Dash8-400
STD 16:20/ATD 16:25
STA 17:00/ATD 16:47
Gate 5
Seat 21D

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Before long my flight is called for boarding too. There are some rather loud members of a rugby club boarding, the member of staff asks them nicely to keep the noise down, but they seem oblivious.

As I walk across the tarmac to the aircraft, Markus’ flight is just pushing back   
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Boarding
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On this flight there are 2 male FAs in the cabin. We have an Irish female FO and our Captain is Mr. Steve Bryson. The load is a mere 20 passengers and the rugby guys up front continue their loud chatter and burst into song occasionally.
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Pushback is at 16.17 and we take off at 16:25.

Bye!

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The BE magazine




Cabin shot
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I don’t purchase any food or drink but treat myself to a model Flybe Dash for my collection. This seems to amuse the member of cabin crew somewhat, maybe he’s not used to women buying model planes?
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The route back is the same, here’s Hoylake again
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Landican crematorium & cemetery
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The M53
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Over Bebington & Bromborough
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Hooton


And finally over the Mersey

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We touchdown after 22minutes of flight on runway 09 and the cabin crew welcome us home, which is a nice touch. It’s a fresh 10C outside.

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I’m out into Arrivals quickly and head straight over to the car park to pay the ticket. Once you exceed 6 hours, you are charged for a full day. And I’m 7 minutes too late, which in my opinion is daylight robbery. Shame on you Liverpool!

What would possess anyone to flush a boarding pass down the toilet?
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Arrivals
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Terminal
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LPL’s famous yellow submarine

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A quick 30 minute drive later, I’m at my Mum’s, the great weekend soon to be just a memory and she is eager to hear all my news.

After a busy week doing lots of errand, choosing new furniture, clearing things out plus a little bit of shopping, it’s time to return to Switzerland. I won’t write a full report on the return legs on KLM as there were no upgrades and the flights were uneventful, but here are some photos:

T3 airside
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My ride to AMS today
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The BE plane that had taken us to the IOM a week earlier was standing idle on the tarmac
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Nice to see an Avro again
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Always a good sign to see your case being loaded
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Leaving the North of England

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Overflying MAN
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Snack
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Cruising


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Land in sight
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On this fine April evening, again I was treated to some more lovely views of the Dutch coastline


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Back at AMS

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A quick dash through Schiphol for my connection to Zurich
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A look at the Fokker Farm, for how much longer?
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My E-jet for ZRH

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My verdict:

KLM: This was my first trip on KLM where I had any reason to complain. I find it unac



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5629 times:

My verdict:

KLM: This was my first trip on KLM where I had any reason to complain. I find it unacceptable to offer an Upgrade during OLCI, but then not to provide part of the service you’ve paid for. The fact that I received an Upgrade on the second leg was a welcome bonus and certainly helped to restore my faith. If I’d received the full meal on leg 1, then I would have been very impressed with the business experience on KLM.
I noticed that my Flying Blue account had only been credited with the Economy miles and when I queried this, was told that on these “cheap” upgrades, no business miles are credited. Funny, LX have always given me the full miles on similar occasions in the past. Eventually it was agreed to give me the business miles, as an act of goodwill.

The other 3 legs on KLM were all very good, as normal.

Flybe: My first two, very short flights on this airline. Punctual, friendly crew, so no complaints. Offering OLCI where you can choose your seat without a fee would be nice though.

The meeting: Thanks to Marc for the idea and organising: it was a real success! It was great to spend some time with so many like-minded people: too many names to list here, but it was a real pleasure to see you all!

First of all thanks to the fellow a.netters on KL1087 – Suryo, Roger, Brendan & Markus for such a memorable flight.

Thanks (2) to Markus for his company & a great day out on the Sunday.

Thanks (3) to Suryo & Daniel for the gifts!

It was a long report this time, so if you’ve made it this far then please leave some feedback, it’s much appreciated.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26859 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Hey Hannah  

Great report and read as usual. Lovely choice of routings. You packed alot in. Glad you had a great meeting with the boys  

Love the Suriname Airways pic.

The meal issue was indeed unacceptable and second upgrade whilst nice was nothing to do with compensating you for the first issue so you are still entitled to be compensated. If an airline advertises a product then they should deliver. A future upgrade cert should have been offered. This if you remember happened to me once on Swiss and shortly after they sent me via DHL a rather nice bottle of Liquer and appology. Thats the way to recover a situation.

Regards the miles how cheap to not offer them. BA LX all offer J miles on these upgrades and rightfully so. One reason why FB is bottom of my list of programs. You get very little in return. Glad they gave the miles in the end it was the least they could do .

Anyway glad you had a great trip and looking forward to the next ones  

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5138 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

Hoi, H.,

why should people pay for something like such as a book as long as stories like this are available on the web?.
Great stuff and pictures, a really good reminder around a memorable weekend, superb well done.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):

Anyone for bread rolls?

Well, it´s me!.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
It seems that a certain member of the group made some enquiries in the lounge and told them about our special trip so hey presto: those of us with status were upgraded. Thank you Markus!

My pleasure, you know.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
make a brief supermarket stop so someone can stock up on some English store cupboard essentials.

Oh, yes, that was very important.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
s we pass through security, Markus is treated to a lesson in Northern greetings, where all women are referred to as “love” and all men as “mate”. (All right love? Any liquids love? You can go through love, thanks love. Hello mate! Gotta laptop mate? Any liquids mate? Have a good flight mate etc.…..you get the idea)

And I like it, you know.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):

At Liverpool there’s a new business lounge, which I don’t remember from my previous visit (or maybe I just didn’t notice it). As the Diners logo is displayed, Markus decides to make some enquiries. The lady working in the lounge is very friendly and tells us that to take a guest in it will cost £16. I insist that Markus should use the lounge and I’ll wait outside, but he insists that no, he’s not leaving me alone (well, I’m not familiar with airports, I might get lost &nbsp Wink. We decline and thank the lady. As Markus is packing his card away, she turns to me and says “Aww, aren’t you lucky to have such a lovely husband. Mine would never do that, he’d tell me to wait outside!” For a brief moment, I contemplate telling her the long complicated truth concerning this weekend trip, all about a.net and how we are now flying to the Isle of Man for 3 hours, just for fun. However, I opt for the easy way out and just smile sweetly, nod & bid her goodbye.

Ah, what these people are always thinking about us!.

That was a real pleasure to spend the time together, thanx again.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

Hello Hannah

Great to see your Manchester report online.
I think it's nice to read about the same batch of flights from different users. How one flight can be told in different ways.
Looks like you enjoyed the weekend as well, thanks for showing us a bit of Chester and Douglas!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
Thanks to Marc for the idea and organising: it was a real success! It was great to spend some time with so many like-minded people: too many names to list here, but it was a real pleasure to see you all!

My pleasure, glad you where here. ZRH will be a succes for sure!

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1197 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

Hola Hannah!

Lovely memories of a super weekend.

Very nice report, I really enjoyed reading about your Isle of Man experience side trip which seemed like a great idea for an early spring Sunday. Sure you had a great time, love!  

KL were as pleasant as they can be, especially on our arrival to MAN when we took our photos at your seats... nice of them to upgrade you and give you some nice real C-service. I do not really understand what is the point of offering upgrades if they do not have enough on board meals... I think there is some bad planning there, at least they gave you the whole miles which is something many airlines have cut off as well on discounted C-fares. M&M have gone from 2,000 to just 750 on cross-border flights in Europe....


Thanks!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Dedicated to RogerBCN

According to my personal records, HB-IOH is my most flown LX aircraft: 8 flights so far!

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

Good morning, Hannah!

Great report (partly) about the famous A.netter flight to MAN.

The Isle of Man parts interest me quite a bit, as it's on my "to-do" list fo the next year (as well as Flybe, with their GVA-SOU flight).

Too bad about the not-too-good experience on ZRH-AMS in Business Class. Hopefully the upgrade on the second leg made up for it somehow!

Cheers, and best wishes,
Alex


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4811 times:

Hi guys,

Thanks you so much for your feedback & kind comments!

Philip,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Great report and read as usual. Lovely choice of routings. You packed alot in. Glad you had a great meeting with the boys

Indeed, an action packed, fun-filled weekend!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
The meal issue was indeed unacceptable and second upgrade whilst nice was nothing to do with compensating you for the first issue so you are still entitled to be compensated. If an airline advertises a product then they should deliver. A future upgrade cert should have been offered. This if you remember happened to me once on Swiss and shortly after they sent me via DHL a rather nice bottle of Liquer and appology. Thats the way to recover a situation

I did contact KLM but got the usual standard answer and no offer of compensation. I had forgotten about your experience on LX but they certainly handled it a lot better.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Regards the miles how cheap to not offer them. BA LX all offer J miles on these upgrades and rightfully so. One reason why FB is bottom of my list of programs. You get very little in return. Glad they gave the miles in the end it was the least they could do .

If I hadn’t had the second upgrade I would have been really disappointed. It was worth standing my ground for the miles though as it was a big difference. Still, it seems to be the trend as LX have cut the mileage on their reduced J fares.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Anyway glad you had a great trip and looking forward to the next ones

There are a few more in the pipeline!

Markus,

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
why should people pay for something like such as a book as long as stories like this are available on the web?.
Great stuff and pictures, a really good reminder around a memorable weekend, superb well done.

Well, I guess some people need books to read on planes so that they can fall into the aircraft sleeping mode  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Well, it´s me!.

I guessed as much!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
My pleasure, you know.

The perfect way to travel on this trip.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Oh, yes, that was very important.

For sure the most important part of any UK visit!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
And I like it, you know.

That’s the Northern charm for you.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Ah, what these people are always thinking about us!.

Not for the last time either!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
That was a real pleasure to spend the time together, thanx again.

Same here  

Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
Great to see your Manchester report online.
I think it's nice to read about the same batch of flights from different users. How one flight can be told in different ways.
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
Looks like you enjoyed the weekend as well, thanks for showing us a bit of Chester and Douglas!

Speedy sightseeing trips, but worth it nevertheless.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
My pleasure, glad you where here. ZRH will be a succes for sure!

Let’s hope so! Looking forward to seeing you again.

Roger,

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
Lovely memories of a super weekend.

A really super weekend, wasn’t it?

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
Very nice report, I really enjoyed reading about your Isle of Man experience side trip which seemed like a great idea for an early spring Sunday. Sure you had a great time, love!

Shame the weather wasn’t quite as spring like, but yes, it was still a good day, mate  
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
KL were as pleasant as they can be, especially on our arrival to MAN when we took our photos at your seats... nice of them to upgrade you and give you some nice real C-service. I do not really understand what is the point of offering upgrades if they do not have enough on board meals... I think there is some bad planning there, at least they gave you the whole miles which is something many airlines have cut off as well on discounted C-fares. M&M have gone from 2,000 to just 750 on cross-border flights in Europe....

I don’t understand it either. They shouldn’t sell a product they can’t offer. And yes, LX have really cut those miles, a real pity but I am sure they will feel the effects.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
According to my personal records, HB-IOH is my most flown LX aircraft: 8 flights so far!

So I snapped the right plane then!

Alex,

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
The Isle of Man parts interest me quite a bit, as it's on my "to-do" list fo the next year (as well as Flybe, with their GVA-SOU flight).

That GVA-SOU route is an unusual one and certainly worth logging as long as it exists. There are some interesting connections from SOU too.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Too bad about the not-too-good experience on ZRH-AMS in Business Class. Hopefully the upgrade on the second leg made up for it somehow!

It did make up for it, but that was down to luck rather than a form of compensation by KLM!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4373 times:
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Goo day Hannah!

How nice to see your side of the story and it's funny how both men and women see some things through another perspective   Some good flights on the KLM - except for that upgrade debacle on the outbound - and you can't go wrong with FlyBE either. It was nice seeing you again in MAN as well!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Of course they wonder why I’m flying via AMS when I could go direct and a few perplexed looks follow.

Lol, one day you'll have to explain your colleagues this strange hobby of yours.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Boarding starts at 11:30 and is a bit of a mess. It’s reminiscent of the old easyJet days.

Sure you departed from ZRH  Wow!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
He handles the situation very well, apologises profusely and says he understands our annoyance.

You gave him the cold eye didn't you   Did you btw file a complaint?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
What a shame that Roger & Suryo couldn’t join in the fun too.

I'm sure they have they have a nice conversation in the back of the bus errr. Boeing!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Beautiful cutlery

Indeed, did you liberate any of that 

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
For our train ride back to the airport we end up on some very antiquated stock and have the whole carriage to ourselves.

Oh yes, I remember. We could hardly hear ourselves talking!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
As we pass through security, Markus is treated to a lesson in Northern greetings, where all women are referred to as “love” and all men as “mate”. (All right love? Any liquids love? You can go through love, thanks love. Hello mate! Gotta laptop mate? Any liquids mate? Have a good flight mate etc.…..you get the idea)

Nothing our 'man of the world' couldn't handle   

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
At least they renovated the information desk!

You seem to have an eye for such things  

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Nice to see an Avro again

The best there are, the SN ones  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4233 times:

Hi Hannah, good to read about your's and your new husbands day out!! Reminds me of when a BA crew member referred to my mum as my wife... Despite the fact I was only 13 at the time!

The Radisson Blu at MAN is a ver good hotel indeed - good to see some pics of the breakfast too as when I was there a week previously, I'd checked out before it was being served.

The IOM looks good, and the more reports I see from there, the more I want to go, although I think it would be wise to leave it until next summer now rather than go over the winter.

The lounge in the IOM also looks very good.



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User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4195 times:

Hi Hannah

I'm in Malta on vacation right now. I'm sitting here sipping a glass of Kinnie as I read your trip report.

What on earth went wrong with your Business Class meal on the leg from Zurich to Amsterdam? As you say, it's quite as though you got half a meal. But I'm glad to see KLM were able to redeem themselves on the second leg.

The Isle of Man looks like an interesting place. I'd like to go there, if only just to see that famous tramway they have. From the trip reports I've seen it always reminds me of those Thomas the Tank Engine books I used to read many years ago as a kid!

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

Good to see some more comments, thanks guys!

Nils,

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
How nice to see your side of the story and it's funny how both men and women see some things through another perspective Some good flights on the KLM - except for that upgrade debacle on the outbound - and you can't go wrong with FlyBE either. It was nice seeing you again in MAN as well!

Go on then, what did I see through a different perspective?  
It was great to see you too Nils, I'm just sorry that you had other worries that weekend.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
Lol, one day you'll have to explain your colleagues this strange hobby of yours.

True, I fear the secret might be out one October weekend!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
You gave him the cold eye didn't you Did you btw file a complaint?

No, no, I was very civilised! I did contact KLM regarding the matter but just got a very standard answer.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
I'm sure they have they have a nice conversation in the back of the bus errr. Boeing!

I'm sure they did!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
Indeed, did you liberate any of that

Believe me, I was very, very tempted but I was a good girl this time.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
Oh yes, I remember. We could hardly hear ourselves talking!

Yeah, that was a fun train ride.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
Nothing our 'man of the world' couldn't handle

Indeed.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
You seem to have an eye for such things

Well, you have to keep up with the competition  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 9):
The best there are, the SN ones

Ok, joint best along with LX....!

James,

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 10):
Hi Hannah, good to read about your's and your new husbands day out!! Reminds me of when a BA crew member referred to my mum as my wife... Despite the fact I was only 13 at the time!

   Althought your story is even funnier! Did that mentioned crew member leave her glasses behind that day?!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 10):
The Radisson Blu at MAN is a ver good hotel indeed - good to see some pics of the breakfast too as when I was there a week previously, I'd checked out before it was being served.

Shame, it's well worth hanging around for the breakfast if you can.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 10):
The IOM looks good, and the more reports I see from there, the more I want to go, although I think it would be wise to leave it until next summer now rather than go over the winter.

Oh yes, on a nice summer's day it'll be a lot more inviting.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 10):
The lounge in the IOM also looks very good.

Very cute, nice views and of course those delicious cookies.....

William,

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 11):
I'm in Malta on vacation right now. I'm sitting here sipping a glass of Kinnie as I read your trip report.

That sounds perfect. Have a glass of Kinnie for me, will you?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 11):
What on earth went wrong with your Business Class meal on the leg from Zurich to Amsterdam? As you say, it's quite as though you got half a meal. But I'm glad to see KLM were able to redeem themselves on the second leg.

Well, KLM's loss, I won't be puchasing any last minute upgrades ever again......

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 11):
The Isle of Man looks like an interesting place. I'd like to go there, if only just to see that famous tramway they have. From the trip reports I've seen it always reminds me of those Thomas the Tank Engine books I used to read many years ago as a kid!

The tramline is indeed a reason to go back and explore the island in more detail. Thomas the Tank Engine, that brings back memories!

Enjoy you holiday in sunny Malta

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineTheAviator380 From UK - England, joined Feb 2013, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Lovely TR,

Brilliant product on such a small sector by KLM....bit surprised to be honest. I personally think, KLM need to re think about their interior, blue colour to me looks bit depressing and old style. Cabin needs to be fresh and lively which is missing on KLM, again this is my opinion and people may not tend to agree me.

Manchester has got fantastic places for flight spotting. I usually go to viewing park.

It's fun to go to Isle on Man on ferry but it's so costly which is really crazy, so if I decide then I guess flight is the most cheapest option.

How did you find LPL? I just find that place little strange, for some reason ( I don't know why) that place just doesn't look like airport to me at all ..lol.


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Hi Hannah, great report! Very nice to also read your story about the MAN meet and the short trip to the Isle of Man. Shame about the KL upgrade, not something I am used from them. Did you send a complaint? At least you got a nice upgrade on the way to MAN!

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6716 posts, RR: 77
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

Hi Hannah,

nice report about the MAN meeting and your journey.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Once boarding is completed the purser comes round to all the C-Class passengers and tells us that unfortunately not enough meals were loaded in AMS. Therefore of the 7 of us, only 2 are going to get the full meal, the rest have to make do with the sandwich. One guy is pretty cross about this, he, like myself, purchased the upgrade during OLCI. I tell the purser I’m disappointed, but what can one do? He handles the situation very well, apologises profusely and says he understands our annoyance.

That's really bad. You should send another letter of complaint. I complained about the unpleasant air conditioning system on a E190 and a 744 flight (both in Business) and got 10,000 FB miles.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
For a one hour flight, the meal we get is really delicious. I have the same tomato & mozzarella sandwich, there are crudités with a divine chive dip and a really heavenly kind of trifle to follow. I clear my tray. All I can say is what a pity I missed out on the ZRH flight.

The tray looks nice, but the sandwich is a letdown.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
The BE magazine

Still no E175, I'm wondering why.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):

What would possess anyone to flush a boarding pass down the toilet?

A really bad flight?  


PH



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

Nice report Hannah! Was great to meet you again in MAN, and thanks for the guided tour!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Boarding starts at 11:30 and is a bit of a mess. It’s reminiscent of the old easyJet days.

Isn't all the boarding in ZRH like that? It was a right mess when I flew to ATH last year on LX.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Not a huge amount on offer

No, looks a bit measly

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Therefore of the 7 of us, only 2 are going to get the full meal, the rest have to make do with the sandwich.
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
For a one hour flight, the meal we get is really delicious. I have the same tomato & mozzarella sandwich, there are crudités with a divine chive dip and a really heavenly kind of trifle to follow. I clear my tray. All I can say is what a pity I missed out on the ZRH flight.

Well, I was going to tell you to complain and try and get your upgrade fee back, but the "full" meal doesn't look that impressive to me. I thought you got a sandwich rather than a proper hot meal or something? Still poor on KL for being unable to load their meals properly.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
The lounge

Looks like quite a nicely decorated lounge



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3608 times:
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Hi Hannah,

Finally found time to read your report on the MAN meet, I'm afraid it is going to take a very long time until mine is out!
Anyway a very nice report you made here with many nice pictures. What a great idea to squeeze in a quick trip to the IOM with Markus, it was nice to read both your perspectives on that trip  
Such a shame to see KLM messed up with your meal on the first flight, I guess the upgrade made up for it on the second flight but nevertheless I find it very poor!
It was very nice to meet you for the first time and hope to see you again soon  
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
It was clear I just had to attend a meeting at my second most logged airport

ZRH being the first one?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
There was no offer on the AMS-MAN flight. This looked like it would be completely full.

Good thing you didn't go for the offer if it was there..

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
except for a drunk woman who gets on the bus

I guess it's never too early to drink 
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Boarding starts at 11:30 and is a bit of a mess. It’s reminiscent of the old easyJet days.

Shame, KLMs boarding is usually very orderly!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
One guy is pretty cross about this, he, like myself, purchased the upgrade during OLCI. I tell the purser I’m disappointed, but what can one do? He handles the situation very well, apologises profusely and says he understands our annoyance.

Very poor indeed, So who got the meals in the end.. Only the full paying Business Class passengers?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Count the Swiss flags

10  
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
We stroll down to the gate together, passing this beauty on the way

What a beauty indeed and PH-KCE  
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Sitting in 2C is a middle-aged German woman, her partner is across the aisle in 2D. She is certainly somewhat intrigued by my behaviour: talking between seats to Markus in 1A, taking photographs of everything in sight and waving across to Brendan in 2F. She’s probably asking herself what loony she’s been seated next to!

Her husband sitting next to me was thinking the exact same thing about me!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Markus & I meet up for breakfast which is quite an impressive spread:

The breakfast at the Radisson was very good indeed!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
The airport is named after this local guy

Who is that? 
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Arrived a bit late at the airport? Pay for fast track security: £4

Hmm, I wonder if many people use that at all?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
What would possess anyone to flush a boarding pass down the toilet?

They must have really had a bad flight 
Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
I noticed that my Flying Blue account had only been credited with the Economy miles and when I queried this, was told that on these “cheap” upgrades, no business miles are credited.

Flying Blue used to credit the full miles if you bought an upgrade but not anymore which makes a bit sense if you ask me.. Why would you deserve just as many miles as a full paying customer?
For me the solution should be some discounted miles, shame KLM doesn't do that though..

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
First of all thanks to the fellow a.netters on KL1087 – Suryo, Roger, Brendan & Markus for such a memorable flight.

No problem, thanks to you too! It was great to finally meet you  

Looking forward to your next report!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

Dear Hannah,

Do you believe me if I needed to (re-)read your report several times before I got around replying? It has been a short, but such a wonderful, yet memorable weekend! I really enjoyed flying together with you and all other three of us.

How great to learn your side of the story this way!  


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
we left the 5C of Basel behind for 20+C in Majorca

What an exciting foresight in Majorca!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
so there was plenty to look forward to this weekend.

    


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
except for a drunk woman who gets on the bus. Thankfully she doesn’t sit next to me, but goes and bothers another passenger who has remarkable patience with her confused ramblings.

Oh no, could she be the family of that careless woman on board?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
a few perplexed looks follow.

Priceless! 


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
(where I have to remind them of the correct discount, again)

You should ask consulting fee for that.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
B737-700 PH-BGK

I spotted your aircraft before our TATL journey!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
the purser comes round to all the C-Class passengers and tells us that unfortunately not enough meals were loaded in AMS. Therefore of the 7 of us, only 2 are going to get the full meal, the rest have to make do with the sandwich.
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
He handles the situation very well, apologises profusely and says he understands our annoyance.

One could difficultly blame him for the logistic fiasco.

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Well, the cabin crew give her a stern telling off and everyone turns round to stare.

Way to go, KL! I cannot just understand some people! I hope it has become the most embarrassing moment of the woman’s life!   


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
some woman

I just love this expression! 


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
More views

No green yet. The result of long winter…

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
Shortly after Suryo joins us & brings delicious muffins for us a

So glad that you liked it!  


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
The penny doesn’t drop even when I’m handed a new ticket, until I look at it and see I’m now sitting in business. I wonder whether this is to make up for what happened on the previous leg,
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
All I can say is what a pity I missed out on the ZRH flight.

You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to say that you deserved the upgrade after the disappointing experience from ZRH!

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
What a shame that Roger & Suryo couldn’t join in the fun too.

No worries! My turn was due after several weeks.   


Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
…more modern…
Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
One of the bigger visitors to MAN

The EK A380! What else?

Quoting infodesk (Thread starter):
She’s probably asking herself what loony she’s been seated next to!

Or asking herself why she couldn’t get along well with two guys at the same time.   


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
It’s great to see so many familiar and a few new faces

    


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Fellow member Always on a Plane (Lee) and myself are designated tourguide as we’re the locals

Like others, I was very grateful!   


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
She nods her head in interest, but is probably secretly thinking we’re bunch of nutters  

We are, aren’t we? 


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
I’m definitely the only female around not in a miniskirt and who is wearing a coat & scarf.

And the most sensible female as it was cold when the sun went down.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Anyone for bread rolls?

Me!   


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Arrived a bit late at the airport? Pay for fast track security: £4

Does it work?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Hello mate! Gotta laptop mate? Any liquids mate? Have a good flight mate etc.…..you get the idea)

Of course, love!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
I insist that Markus should use the lounge and I’ll wait outside, but he insists that no, he’s not leaving me alone

A true gentleman Markus is! Can you remember him skipping the premium lane at AMS just to stay with us?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
“Aww, aren’t you lucky to have such a lovely husband. Mine would never do that, he’d tell me to wait outside!”

Sweet!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
it’s pleasant surprise to hear that the Captain is female.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
We have an Irish female FO
Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
This seems to amuse the member of cabin crew somewhat, maybe he’s not used to women buying model planes?

He’ll manage. He firstly had to get used to female flight deck crew members somehow.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
We bank & fly out over the Wirral peninsular & Liverpool and across the Irish Sea. You can see the North Wales coast for some time and the hills of Snowdonia,
Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
The route back is the same

I love this your guiding tour of yours beyond MAN!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Hilbre Island, which you can walk to from West Kirby at low tide

Amazing!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
At least they renovated the information desk

Right on time before your visit!  


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Well, why complicate things? She whispers that she’ll let me be her guest & won’t charge. I am quite overwhelmed by her act of kindness and we settle down to a cup of tea and some very fine cookies.

Way to go!   


Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
Shame on you Liverpool!

That’s just disgusting!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 1):
What would possess anyone to flush a boarding pass down the toilet?

A true evil spirit which needs to be exorcised!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
Thanks (3) to Suryo & Daniel for the gifts!

My pleasure!  


What a way to get the weekend started! Thank you for the wonderful friendship!

All the bests,
Suryo  



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Hello guys,

Thank you for the feedback and apologies for my late reply.

TheAviator,

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 13):
Brilliant product on such a small sector by KLM....bit surprised to be honest. I personally think, KLM need to re think about their interior, blue colour to me looks bit depressing and old style. Cabin needs to be fresh and lively which is missing on KLM, again this is my opinion and people may not tend to agree me.

Well, everyone’s is entitled to their opinion! The blue is ok for me, as it’s my favourite colour, but a revamp perhaps wouldn’t be a bad thing.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 13):
Manchester has got fantastic places for flight spotting. I usually go to viewing park.

The viewing park is great, although I’ve not been there for a while, no time to fit it in on this trip!

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 13):
It's fun to go to Isle on Man on ferry but it's so costly which is really crazy, so if I decide then I guess flight is the most cheapest option.

Fun is one word when there’s a storm out at sea   I’d rather stick to the plane!

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 13):
How did you find LPL? I just find that place little strange, for some reason ( I don't know why) that place just doesn't look like airport to me at all ..lol.

I’ve used LPL many times in the past so nothing new for me. It’s a typical low cost airport, nothing special, but it works.

Robert,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 14):
Hi Hannah, great report! Very nice to also read your story about the MAN meet and the short trip to the Isle of Man. Shame about the KL upgrade, not something I am used from them. Did you send a complaint? At least you got a nice upgrade on the way to MAN!

Thanks. Yeah, the complaint didn’t change anything sadly. It’s such a shame, because until that point everything on KL had been top notch for me.

PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
That's really bad. You should send another letter of complaint. I complained about the unpleasant air conditioning system on a E190 and a 744 flight (both in Business) and got 10,000 FB miles.

Well, I must admit, after reading all the feedback I am beginning to wonder whether I should try again. Although I guess flying business does help when it comes to how complaints are handled!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
The tray looks nice, but the sandwich is a letdown.

It was very good and as I’m a bit fussy, I’d rather have a sandwich that I can eat than something overly fancy that I can’t….. 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
Still no E175, I'm wondering why.

Ooops, I hadn’t noticed that one!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
A really bad flight?

Must have been!

Gabriel,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Nice report Hannah! Was great to meet you again in MAN, and thanks for the guided tour!

Good to see you too & I’m glad Lee was there or I would have got lost!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Isn't all the boarding in ZRH like that? It was a right mess when I flew to ATH last year on LX.

I hope not   The LX flights should all have a at least a business & an economy lane, but it very much depends on the gate area you’re flying from and how much space they have.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Well, I was going to tell you to complain and try and get your upgrade fee back, but the "full" meal doesn't look that impressive to me. I thought you got a sandwich rather than a proper hot meal or something? Still poor on KL for being unable to load their meals properly.

I think this is the way of the furture. Last time I flew C on LX to MAN I got less than what KL gave me and that’s a longer flight. So, I’m no expert on flying C-Class, but for me the full meal on KL was perfectly ok.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Looks like quite a nicely decorated lounge

Yeah, a sweet little place.

Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Finally found time to read your report on the MAN meet, I'm afraid it is going to take a very long time until mine is out!

Don’t worry, I still have your US series to catch up on, I’m so behind at the moment.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Anyway a very nice report you made here with many nice pictures. What a great idea to squeeze in a quick trip to the IOM with Markus, it was nice to read both your perspectives on that trip

Thank you. Yes, it was a busy weekend!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
ZRH being the first one?

Full marks for you  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Good thing you didn't go for the offer if it was there..

That would have been money down the drain.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Shame, KLMs boarding is usually very orderly!

Definitely more so at AMS.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Very poor indeed, So who got the meals in the end.. Only the full paying Business Class passengers?

I’m guessing so. The purser gave the 2 meals to a couple on the front row.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Her husband sitting next to me was thinking the exact same thing about me!

So I was in good company then!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
The breakfast at the Radisson was very good indeed!

Delicious.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Who is that?

Not sure, some musician who had the odd success?  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
They must have really had a bad flight

Obviously one to forget!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
Flying Blue used to credit the full miles if you bought an upgrade but not anymore which makes a bit sense if you ask me.. Why would you deserve just as many miles as a full paying customer?
For me the solution should be some discounted miles, shame KLM doesn't do that though..

Thanks for the insight into this. I was comparing to so LX, as they do offer the full miles, but sure how it works with other airlines. You should get a few more than in Y though.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 17):
No problem, thanks to you too! It was great to finally meet you

Yeah, it was great to meet you too and maybe see you again in ZRH?

Suryo,

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Do you believe me if I needed to (re-)read your report several times before I got around replying? It has been a short, but such a wonderful, yet memorable weekend! I really enjoyed flying together with you and all other three of us.

I can believe that, I’m the same! Yes, it was a super weekend and a very special flight into MAN.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Oh no, could she be the family of that careless woman on board?

It wouldn’t surprise me.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
You should ask consulting fee for that.

I should be so lucky!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
I spotted your aircraft before our TATL journey

So I see, according to FB  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
One could difficultly blame him for the logistic fiasco.

No, he was just doing his job and it wasn’t his fault.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Way to go, KL! I cannot just understand some people! I hope it has become the most embarrassing moment of the woman’s life!

There were a lot of eyes looking at her…..

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
No green yet. The result of long winter…

But at least there was no white stuff on the ground.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
So glad that you liked it!

Delicious.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to say that you deserved the upgrade after the disappointing experience from ZRH!

It certainly made up for it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
No worries! My turn was due after several weeks

I’ll look forward to reading all about it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Or asking herself why she couldn’t get along well with two guys at the same time.

Maybe!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Like others, I was very grateful!

Thanks!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
We are, aren’t we?

Just a little bit  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
And the most sensible female as it was cold when the sun went down.

That’s one way of looking at it!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Does it work?

As far as I know, yes. When I flew out of LPL on KL I was given access to the fast lane, and you join security right at the front of the queue.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
A true gentleman Markus is! Can you remember him skipping the premium lane at AMS just to stay with us?

Oh, yes, a gentleman indeed.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
He’ll manage. He firstly had to get used to female flight deck crew members somehow.

Very well said Suryo!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
I love this your guiding tour of yours beyond MAN!

Well, I know the area pretty well, glad you appreciated it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Right on time before your visit!

I’m honoured…..

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
Way to go!

So, so kind of her.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
That’s just disgusting!

Well, people do odd things.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 18):
What a way to get the weekend started! Thank you for the wonderful friendship!

Dank u wel Suryo. Hope you had a great weekend!

Happy flying
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