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Euro Trip Part 1: UA/AC ORD-YYZ-ZRH (pics)  
User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10566 times:

Hello everyone I'm back with another trip report. My whole family is from Poland (though a good chunk of my mom's side has since moved here), so every few years either someone comes to visit us here in the US or we make a trip over there. The last time we were there was four years ago, and since one of my cousins was getting married during the summer my parents figured this was the perfect time to head over there again. Another one of my cousins also moved to Switzerland a few years ago, so before going to Poland we decided to fly there first and check things out for a few days since none of us had been to that country before. The routing for the whole trip ended up being ORD-YYZ-ZRH-DUS-POZ WAW-FRA-ORD on UA, AC, LH, and LO. Traditionally my dad usually always books non-stop flights, so there must've a pretty big difference in price that caused him to come up with this crazy itinerary. Obviously I was pretty disappointed that he didn't decide to go with the LO WAW-ORD segment on the return because I was really eager to fly on their 787, but at least I'd be getting my first career 747 flights in its place. Instead of covering the whole trip in one report, I've decided to split it up into three different parts, so the first one will be covered here. Now on to the report...(July 5-6)
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When I woke up for our trip on the morning of July 5 I was pretty tired since the previous days had been pretty hectic and without much sleep. I had been taking summer classes down in Tucson and my final exam was in the afternoon on July 3. On top of having to study for that, I also had to move out of my apartment, so the last days two over there were kind of a mad scramble. After my exam I flew back to MKE later that evening on WN from PHX, and the flight didn't get in until almost 1 AM. Then of course the next day it was the 4th of July so it’s not like I was going to sleep in on that occasion.

Anyhow, once we were all set to go my grandparents and uncle picked us up at about 10 AM and we started the drive down to ORD. The traffic was light so we got there in about an hour’s time and there was still plenty of time before our 1:10 PM flight to YYZ. We got dropped off at terminal one and after saying our goodbyes we headed inside to check in. When we got up to the self-checkin machine there was some momentary confusion because when I typed in ZRH as the final destination it said "No reservation found." We eventually got the reservation to pop up after I typed in YYZ instead. I'm guessing that had something to do with the fact that our first leg was on UA and then the second one was on AC. They still gave us the boarding passes for both flights and tagged our bags all the way to ZRH though. I noticed from our boarding passes that our flight was leaving from the F gates which was in terminal two. I figured we'd have to take the airport tram to get over there but I was surprised to find out that there was walkway connecting the two - though I probably should've assumed there was one. The line for security was short but as usual it was kind of a hassle for me because of all the things I had to unpack (take off belt, shoes, empty pockets, pull laptop out from crammed backpack, etc.). Once we were done with that we walked all the way down to the end of the concourse to gate F12 where our E145 was already waiting for us.
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This was going to be my first flight on a fifty-seater in a long time. When my dad booked the trip during the winter, this flight was initially supposed to be with an A320. Seems like these equipment swaps never seem to work out in my favor.   

There was still a fair bit of time before boarding, so I decided to walk around to see what else was going on. Seeing as how it was the day after the 4th of July, the terminal was pretty busy with lots of folks undoubtedly heading home after the holiday.
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I stopped next to one of the restaurants to watch the end of the Djokovic/Del Potro Wimbledon semi-final and then headed over to the E gates. This DL DC-9 was pushing back for its flight to DTW - built in 1975 and still going strong!
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I did a daytrip from ORD back in May just to get on the DC-9 one last time, and since they're no longer a regular at MKE this might end up being the last time I ever see one up close. It’s definitely been one of my favorite planes to fly on, so if anyone of you still have a chance to get on one these last few months I encourage you to do so.

I was starting to get a little hungry at that point so I grabbed some McDonalds and then went back to the gate. While I was waiting for my order there was some older guy there who was making quite a scene demanding his money back. I don't know if it took him too long to get his food or if they messed up his order, but he definitely could've toned it down a bit. Once I was back at the gate I ate my two cheeseburgers and then waited for boarding to start.
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I headed back to seat 16A and even though I had the single aisle seat, I had forgotten how cramped it is on these small jets. I'm 6'1 but couldn't stand up straight without hitting my head on the ceiling. I could tell even the rest of my family was a little surprised because I'm sure they've become accustomed to flying solely on mainline flights. Once boarding was finished we pushed back and made a bit of a long out to runway 14L. We waited for a UA 767 to land on runway 22R and then took off to the east.
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Continuing our climb-out over Lake Michigan.
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Not long after takeoff the lone flight attendant started the drink service and I got some ginger ale and a cup of coffee. She later passed out the immigration forms and since there were only lines for four names on each card, I filled one out for myself while my mom, dad, brother, and sister went on the other card. Overall there were a couple of scattered empty seats on this flight, particularly towards the back where we were sitting. As we got closer to YYZ the clouds started to thicken up and the captain had announced earlier that the weather there was indeed pretty dreary. The flight attendant informed us that it would be a little bumpy during the descent, but it ended up being pretty smooth. We made a loop around the airport and then landed on runway 24R. It was a quite landing without and thrust reverse - which is kind of a letdown because that's one of my favorite parts of the flight!
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We taxied over to one of the ground-level boarding gates across from terminal one.
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We waited a few minutes for them to unpack the gate-checked bags and then headed outside into the drizzle. Here's our E145 after the flight from ORD.
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When we got to the immigration checkpoint I went up to one of the guys with my passport/customs form, and I don't know what this guy's deal was but he was definitely the rudest, crankiest guy I've ever come across in all my years of flying. I didn't mean anything by it, but when I "slapped" my passport down onto the counter he must've taken it the wrong way because he responded by saying "Why you mad?". At that point I thought he was just being sarcastic or whatever so I just told him I was tired, and then he said "How's that my fault?". He looked at me as if he expected some sort of response, but I really had no idea what was going on or what his problem was. Eventually he got around to checking my passport, though he said something along the lines of "Let's see if we can do anything for you here" - seemingly trying to intimidate me and scare into thinking he wouldn't let me through. When he finally gave it back to me he said "Go. Are you happy with yourself?". Maybe I should've said something a little "sharper" back to him, but the whole thing really caught me off guard and I didn't really have the energy to deal with, so I just got out of there ASAP. This was my first time in Canada, so definitely not a very warm welcome.    Anyways, with that nonsense taken care of we walked down to our departure gate #81. Here's the 763 for our flight to ZRH.
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I wasn't too hungry at that point, but I knew that the servings on these transatlantic weren't too big so I decided to play it safe and get something to eat while I was there. We went over to this place called True Burger and I got myself a bacon cheeseburger along with a fancy Stella Artois. It was pretty expensive for everything (+$20 per person) but I'm not gonna lie it was one of the best tasting burgers I've had in a while. After I was done eating I walked around a little bit to check out what other planes were hanging around. I'm not familiar with YYZ's layout but I'm guessing this must've been the international terminal due to all the flights heading overseas. Here's an up-close encounter with an EK A380.
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There was also a LO 787 at the gate that was going to WAW - my first time seeing it in person! Unfortunately I couldn't really get a picture of it’s because the view was pretty obstructed due to the jetway/building. When I got back to our gate I went up to the podium to see if I could get some of our seats changed because for some reason they were scattered all throughout the aircraft. We had 13A, 17A, 17B, 19A, and 33K. The flight was pretty packed so I could only get 33K changed to 16A, but at least that put us all a lot closer. I then just hung around the gate and waited for barding to start.
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I initially had decided to sit in 13A, but when I saw that row didn't have a window I moved back to 16A. Once everyone was aboard the captain announced there would be a slight delay due to some cargo that needed to be placed aboard, but we ended up sitting there for about 30-45 minutes. When we finally did push back, we taxied out to runway 24R and held short for a WS 738 to land.
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We then took off and climbed out over the city of Toronto. The weather had improved somewhat since our arrival so the climbout was smooth.
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Dinner was served a little more than an hour into the flight and the options were chicken or some sort of pasta. I decided to go with the chicken. It also came with type of noodles, and then a small salad and chocolate mousse for desert. Overall the meal was pretty good, but if I hadn't of eaten at YYZ I most likely would've still been pretty hungry afterwards. I also got a small bottle a wine to go along with my coke, and I guess I've become too accustomed to flying is the US because I was a little surprised that it was free. Do US carriers offer alcohol for free on transatlantic flights?
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Once dinner was over the sun started to set, though similar to my flight to Poland four years ago it never got totally dark out.
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I then turned my attention to the PTV and started playing around with it to see what it had to offer. All of my previous transatlantic flights had been on LO's outdated 767s, so clearly this was a huge upgrade in terms of IFE. The mood lighting was a nice touch too. I eventually decided on watching Lincoln, since that was the only recent Oscar-nominated film that I had yet to see. Throughout the rest of the flight one of the flight attendants came through the aisle every hour or so giving out juice and water. Here's a cabin shot once the lights went out.
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When I was done watching the movie I tried getting some sleep, but I'm not the type of person who easily falls asleep in cars/airplanes and it was no different here. I was maybe out for like 30 minutes but that was probably it.    Soon the sun started coming back up again and since I was sitting on the left side of the aircraft I had to keep the window shade closed for a while because of how bright it was. About an hour and a half before landing the lights came back on and we were already over London.
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The breakfast service was somewhat disappointing - it was just a large chocolate cookie with a cup of coffee. On my LO flight four years ago we actually got a small meal for breakfast, so this was definitely a step down from that. During our descent into ZRH we did a complete 360 turn over France, and I'm guessing that was due to all the inbound traffic because while we were on the downwind for landing I could see several aircraft flying past us. After lining up with the runway we landed smoothly with runway 34, but again it was quiet landing without any thrust reverse. Is that supposed to be some sort of fuel-saving measure?
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We then taxied over to terminal E and joined the other various international arrivals.
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It turns out quite a few people on our flight had connections, and the delay ay YYZ definitely didn't help. After we let those folks get off we took the airport tram over to the baggage claim.
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Our bags came off the belt pretty quick and then when we exited into the arrivals hall my cousins husband was already there waiting for us. We loaded up into his car and then headed off for the start of our vacation!
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This is my 27th trip report and I hope you enjoyed reading it! As I mentioned at the beginning of the report, this will be will the first of three parts so stayed tuned for the rest of my trip. I'll include some pictures from Switzerland in the next report. As for my flights on UA and AC, I've got no major complaints. I'll still probably avoid flights on fifty-seaters at all costs, but the weather wasn't too bad and the flight was short enough to the point where it was bearable. It was my first time flying on AC, and it looks like they've got a pretty good product for transatlantic flights. YYZ is also a very nice, new, modern looking airport. Thanks again for reading!!!  


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User currently offlinephunc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10447 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
This is my 27th trip report and I hope you enjoyed reading it!

I did! Thanks for posting.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
When we got to the immigration checkpoint I went up to one of the guys with my passport/customs form, and I don't know what this guy's deal was but he was definitely the rudest, crankiest guy I've ever come across in all my years of flying.

I'd put this down to bad circumstance and nothing personal. He probably took you slapping your passport down as attitude when it wasn't and then it snowballed... no danger!


User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1019 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10101 times:

Great report. Thanks. Going to be flying YUL-LHR this weekend, so was curious to see what the Y offering is like these days.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
When we got to the immigration checkpoint I went up to one of the guys with my passport/customs form, and I don't know what this guy's deal was but he was definitely the rudest, crankiest guy I've ever come across in all my years of flying.

Canada Border Services Agency has been getting a fair bit of criticism over the way it deals with travellers.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/07...ghly-rude-numerous-complaints-say/


Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
The breakfast service was somewhat disappointing - it was just a large chocolate cookie with a cup of coffee.

I'm going to be flying to YUL-LHR this weekend, and I have to say that this is actually a step up from the muffin they've been serving.


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1939 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9665 times:
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Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I noticed from our boarding passes that our flight was leaving from the F gates which was in terminal two.

Was just here on Tuesday! Good photos from your trip so far, looks like you had a good journey with Air Canada. Looking forward to the next part.

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1202 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 8849 times:

A chocolate cookie for breakfast. Awful.

They used to offer a nice big muffin.

At least their dull salads are 100 times better than the lettuce you get on SWISS and on US carriers.


User currently offlineYtraveller From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 8809 times:

Hi mke717spotter,

Great trip report.

I've always wanted to fly with Air Canada, especially how they have PTV's on even their short-haul flights with free(?) entertainment. It seems you enjoyed the flight for the most part.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
When I was done watching the movie I tried getting some sleep, but I'm not the type of person who easily falls asleep in cars/airplanes and it was no different here. I was maybe out for like 30 minutes but that was probably it.

Neither am I. I usually spend the majority of the flight on the entertainment system, unless of course there are only overhead TV's.  


User currently offlinecaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 8717 times:
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I enjoyed reading your report. Also, the worst customs and immigrations experience I have ever had was at Toronto. I have traveled all over the world, but the female agent at this airport was the rudest, most condescending border agent I have ever had the misfortune to deal with. She made sure that I was frisked and my luggage and all of its contents were searched to the point of ridiculousness. They even searched the cuffs of my pants before finally admitting that I was doing nothing wrong or inappropriate. Finally, the agent even managed to make a few snide comments about my home city of Los Angeles. I have not returned to Toronto since this degrading experience which is a shame, because the city of Toronto and its residents were abosolutely fantastic.

Quoting phunc (Reply 1):
When we got to the immigration checkpoint I went up to one of the guys with my passport/customs form, and I don't know what this guy's deal was but he was definitely the rudest, crankiest guy I've ever come across in all my years of flying


User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 8689 times:

Thanks a lot for checking out my trip report!

Quoting phunc (Reply 1):
I'd put this down to bad circumstance and nothing personal. He probably took you slapping your passport down as attitude when it wasn't and then it snowballed... no danger!
Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 2):
Canada Border Services Agency has been getting a fair bit of criticism over the way it deals with travelers.

At first I thought that maybe I was just unlucky, but after reading that article and its comments it sounds like there might actually be some sort of negative trend over there. Throughout the trip I did notice that pretty much all of the immigration folks we dealed with had a pretty serious demeanor.

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 2):
I'm going to be flying to YUL-LHR this weekend, and I have to say that this is actually a step up from the muffin they've been serving.
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
A chocolate cookie for breakfast. Awful.

They used to offer a nice big muffin.

I'm going to have to agree with lychemsa on this one, a muffin sounds a lot better compared to the cookie that we got.

Quoting Ytraveller (Reply 5):
I've always wanted to fly with Air Canada, especially how they have PTV's on even their short-haul flights with free(?) entertainment.

Yes, the PTVs were free to use. After flying with F9 I assumed that everyone else charges for PTVs, but even B6 and DL don't charge you for it on domestic flights.



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User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1019 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 8629 times:

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 7):

I'm going to have to agree with lychemsa on this one, a muffin sounds a lot better compared to the cookie that we got.

The muffin sounds great in theory. Till you have to eat it. It was big - I'll give you that. It was also sweet to the point that I never did figure out what flavor it was meant to be - apart from straight up sugar. Not vanilla, not carrot - not anything distinguishable.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 7):
At first I thought that maybe I was just unlucky, but after reading that article and its comments it sounds like there might actually be some sort of negative trend over there. Throughout the trip I did notice that pretty much all of the immigration folks we dealed with had a pretty serious demeanor.

Its a real shame, because it is categorically NOT reflective of Canada or Canadians.


User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 6):
I enjoyed reading your report. Also, the worst customs and immigrations experience I have ever had was at Toronto. I have traveled all over the world, but the female agent at this airport was the rudest, most condescending border agent I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.

Thanks. I'm sure that Canadian people are very nice in general, but from some of the revelations made in this thread it sounds like some of the folks working at the airports have some shaping up to do!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 8):
The muffin sounds great in theory. Till you have to eat it.

In that case maybe both the muffin and the cookie are equally disappointing. For comparison, here's what we got for breakfast on our LO flight four years ago.
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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6855 times:

How do you get downgraded from an a320 to an ERJ? I didn't even realize UA went express on this route too, as this used to be all mainline. Guess Mainline is a rare thing at UA these days.

User currently offlineAv8rDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6658 times:

Nothing against Canada or Canadians, but I must say the border experience between the US and Canadian border has been a consistntly negative experience for me as well. Been through YUL and also the British Columbia-Washington crossing near Vancouver. The land crossing took a couple of hours while our car was turned inside out and we were kept in a holding pen. Rude, sharp-tongued agents in general.

I know national security is important but I've had an equally thorough customs and immigration process coming into SYD from LAX and the people were professional but at least pleasant.



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User currently offlinewroord From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6272 times:

Hi Mike,

Nice and detailed report. I am looking forward to the rest of your story.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
Traditionally my dad usually always books non-stop flights, so there must've a pretty big difference in price that caused him to come up with this crazy itinerary

The prices for LO since they introduced 787 were around $1400 per person. I did the same thing for my recent trip to WRO with my two girls. I booked LH via FRA for about $950. The savings add up.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
When we got to the immigration checkpoint I went up to one of the guys with my passport/customs form, and I don't know what this guy's deal was but he was definitely the rudest, crankiest guy I've ever come across in all my years of flying

I have family in Toronto and I have been flying and driving there for years and can attest that the border people there for the most part have the attitude from the moon. They remind me of the old DDR agents when you crossed from East to West Berlin. They think that everyone is some sort of criminal.

Quoting mke717spotter (Thread starter):
I'm not familiar with YYZ's layout but I'm guessing this must've been the international terminal due to all the flights heading overseas.

Their terminals have three separate sections: domestic, US and international.

Quoting phunc (Reply 1):
I guess I've become too accustomed to flying is the US because I was a little surprised that it was free.

On transatlantic or transpacific routes even US carriers give you a free drink.

Quoting Ytraveller (Reply 5):
On my LO flight four years ago we actually got a small meal for breakfast

On LH they gave us turkey strudel thing, which was pretty greasy and so I was disappointed as well. My girls did not touch it and cried that they were hungry, so in FRA I had to buy they food.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5580 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5991 times:

Great report, I enjoyed reading it  

AC look pretty good overall, the dinner service looks tasty enough, and it is good to see that they have continual water runs. Believe it or not that's what sticks in my mind the most on longhaul flights, and I segregate airlines along those that offer hourly water/juice services, and those that don't (and I look more favorably on those that do). It's a shame they dropped the ball with the breakfast service though. I don't know what the Euro carriers serve these days, but back when I flew TATL a lot (90s, early 00s) we still got a hot breakfast service. These days I only fly TATL as part of RTW itineraries, and it now occurs that I've always flown East-West - so daylight TATL.

And to answer your question, yes the US carriers do serve free beer/wine on TATL flights. I prefer BA, though, they have a mighty fine range of free spirits (liquor)   

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 2):
Canada Border Services Agency has been getting a fair bit of criticism over the way it deals with travellers.

Interesting, between that article, the OP's experience, and some other comments on this thread it seems that this is a bit of a trend with Canada CBP.

I also had an unfortunate experience last year, driving between Vermont and Quebec, crossing at Morses Line. There was some serious attitude on display.

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 8):
Its a real shame, because it is categorically NOT reflective of Canada or Canadians

I couldn't agree more   

I love you country, and a bit of attitude crossing the border isn't going to stop me rushing back



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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5347 times:

Thanks for commenting!

Quoting apodino (Reply 10):
How do you get downgraded from an a320 to an ERJ? I didn't even realize UA went express on this route too, as this used to be all mainline. Guess Mainline is a rare thing at UA these days.

Yeah it sucks, but it looks like ORD-YYZ rarely sees mainline these days, and that includes AC's and AA's flights.

Quoting Av8rDAL (Reply 11):
Nothing against Canada or Canadians, but I must say the border experience between the US and Canadian border has been a consistntly negative experience for me as well.
Quoting wroord (Reply 12):
I have family in Toronto and I have been flying and driving there for years and can attest that the border people there for the most part have the attitude from the moon.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Interesting, between that article, the OP's experience, and some other comments on this thread it seems that this is a bit of a trend with Canada CBP.

Yep, there definitely seems to be a common theme here. I'm not sure if its significant, but the guy who I had to deal with was definitely foreign. It sounded like he might've had an Eastern European accent? I've heard that some of the older folks from the communist days can be quite grumpy.

Quoting wroord (Reply 12):
On transatlantic or transpacific routes even US carriers give you a free drink.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
And to answer your question, yes the US carriers do serve free beer/wine on TATL flights.

Thanks for the clarification.



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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5135 times:

Nice report from my mostly-used TATL flight  . Well, actually more often westbound. Put me down for another one who experienced the worst immigration experience in YYZ. I guess "annoyed and snappy" is the way to be as a Canadian border official in YYZ.


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