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Alaska Milk Run 2 (JNU-PSG-WRG-KTN-SEA) AS 734M  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11982 times:

Alaska Milk Run 2 (JNU-PSG-WRG-KTN-SEA) AS 734M

Hi everyone, and thanks for reading my report on an Alaskan milk run operation from JNU to SEA. I hope you won't mind the fewer comments affixed to this report—I'm experimenting on the ideal TR style, so feel free to leave your comments.

Part 1: Alaska Milk Run Part 1 (ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU), AS B734 (by dc9northwest Aug 18 2013 in Trip Reports)

First, how about a little background on how this came about. Well, the previous year my parents and I were supposed to go to Seattle, but my dad couldn't make it. So, a 338$ voucher for an AS flight suddenly appeared (after paying 75$ for it). Of course, I'd use it. I quickly decided to use this opportunity to go to Alaska proper. Being interested in aviation means I couldn't pass up a chance of doing a couple of milk runs.

Delta offered a good one-way fare from CHI to ANC on the date I wanted/needed to fly there. Bought.

Then I purchased the 2 milk-run flights for $450 dollars (so I ended up paying only about $117 there).

The last flight, back to Chicago was the most difficult one to choose: I wanted to do overnight flight (aka red-eye) for cost and time savings. That left me with 3 options: DL, AA, UA (so actually only 2 options). AA via DFW was interesting but in the end I decided to do DL, as usual.

So, finally, my itinerary was set in stone. I should mention I initially looked at jetBlue's flights to ANC or a stopover in SNA to experience the take-offs from that airport, but I eventually decided it wasn't worth it, and the milk-runs would be better than trying out one of these options.

May 24th:
DL5718, MDW-MSP, 17:21-18:53, E175, N617CZ
DL1341, MSP-SEA, 19:30-21:05, B752, N694DL
AS107, SEA-ANC, 22:45-01:11, B739(ER), N407AS

May 25th:
AS66, ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU, 15:35-19:14, B734, N794AS

May 26th:
AS64, JNU-PSG-WRG-KTN-SEA, 14:36-20:07, B734Combi, N765AS

May 27th:
DL1014, SEA-MSP, 00:56-06:07, A320, N311US
DL5793, MSP-MDW, 10:05-11:35, E170, N752CZ

This report will focus mostly on AS64, with its ensuing hijinks and whatnot. OK, no, it was just a regular milk run flight... Perhaps nothing special for people living in Alaska, but definitely special for me.

Anyway, I had left off with the story about “summertime in Juneau, Alaska”. Well, I took the shuttle to my place of residence for 1 night, the Driftwood Lodge, located conveniently in the middle of downtown. I proceed to order some food from the local pizza place. I tried to find some better food first but was unsuccessful so I resorted to ordering something that could be ordered online. Well, I did so, and a few minutes later I received the food... Why am I getting into this? Well, I didn't get far into my order when the power cut... Shit. Oh well, it seemed that it wasn't just my hotel who suffered from this fate—seemingly most of downtown Juneau had lost power. Interesting stuff here. Not something you'd usually expect from a civilized country. Anyway, I proceed to almost fall asleep when I hear some voices—I'd left the TV on and the power came back after about an hour.

Anyway, the next day, I planned to see the few sights in downtown Juneau before departing for the lower 48. I'll share some pictures for your delight (in case you like to see destination pics—I definitely do!)

Motel's Parking Lot with Mountains:


I first decided to head towards the Alaska's Governor's Mansion, before climbing a bit more to the Russian Orthodox Church Area, and then heading down towards the Mount Roberts Tramway (which is not a tramway at all, actually). Now, Juneau's a rather small town, and not an interesting one due to its man-made tourist attractions, but because of its terrific scenery. That said, I'll include some of both.

Side Street:


Alaska Governor's Mansion (Sarah Palin's house—no, you can't see Russia!)


Again:


Juneau:


Park and Russian Church:


Juneau also features a very interesting State Capitol. Unfortunately, it's rather boring-looking and doesn't have a dome on top. Shame.

State Capitol (on the left):


Further towards the harbor—only small shops selling somewhat shitty stuff to the tourists off the ships... Not very interesting. In this area, JNU looks like a cross between and Old West town and a super-commercialized town like in the Caribbean... Not many people there on a Sunday morning, luckily.

Touristy Street for the Cruiseship Crowds:


Then, to the most interesting thing in Juneau—the “tram” to the top (or halfway there) of Mount Roberts. Kind of expensive (in fact very expensive for what it is, IMO, 31$) but there's not much of a choice if on a tight schedule. Plus, the views are rather nice. And they have a bald eagle in captivity.

Up Mt. Roberts Tramway:


Nice view of downtown Juneau:


Still snow on the ground, but not for long:


Injured Bald Eagle held in captivity:


Following this, I started heading back towards my motel to get ready for my multi-stop flight to SEA. On the way there I heard a sound... not sure what it was at first but soon I realized some Otters were landing on Gastineau Channel and proceeding to dock right next to my current location.

Across the Channel:


Some nice otters playing in the water:


OK, afterwards, I took the hotel's shuttle to JNU, where I had enough time to spare. I walked around for a bit before proceeding to security.

Well, now everyone has some story of a friendly or funny security guy, so here's mine. After taking a couple of pictures of mountains, I proceed straight to security, camera in hand. The guy notices and says “Are you gonna take a picture of me?”, to which I reply “Ah, no, it's turned off. Nice scenery around here, though!”... Then he proceeds to ask me where I'm from while the other guy checked my boarding pass and driver's license. I tell him Romania, to which he replied... “Ah, I had some Bulgarian coworkers (I forget if he said where)... Not Romanian, but close”. Then he proceeds to brag they taught him how to swear in Bulgarian and say all the bad words. His favorite was “pichka”. I'll let Stojan explain that one to you.

Anyway, there was no queue to speak of, so eventually I got through to airside, where there's... nothing to do at all, except look at birds and mountains. There were a couple of vending machines and a small shop IIRC. Anyway, free wi-fi, I believe, so I took advantage of that.

Regional concourse at JNU:


AS check-in desks:


Here are a couple of pics from JNU airside.

Timbeeeeeer(s):


In the very bowels of JNU:


Not too long afterwards, AS64 arrived from Anchorage. My first non-747 combi was here, ready to take me South. This craft had a 40-minute turn here in JNU, so it was about time to board just 15 minutes after arrival... Not bad for me, at all. We approached the craft, though there was that pesky security distance we had to keep to... Not like in (many places in) Europe.

My combi craft:


'ello there:


Ah, well, now it was really coming true!

Boarding Shot:


Some Nature:


The 737-400 Combi carries a total of 72 passengers in AS' configuration. Kinda strange for a 737 to have such a seating arrangement in my experience   Only 12 rows of 3-3.

Almost ready for take-off:


The views upon departure from JNU were as nice as expected.

After take-off:


Climbing:


SE Alaska:


Our flight to Petersburg would not take not very long—somewhere on the order of 20 minutes. PSG is served by Alaska only because of an EAS grant as far as I know. It's a small town and this is its only fast connection to the rest of the world. Same for Wrangell.

An interestingly shaped mountain:


As you can see, the scenery remains spectacular. Perhaps more so, since the approaches to PSG, WRG, KTN have more mountains to avoid than YAK or CDV.

Descending into Petersburg:


Touchdown almost happening:


Closer:


And finally, touchdown. Always funny to turn around in the middle of the runway, especially because the runway itself is not all that small and short!

Welcome down:


180 on the runway:


The aircraft nearly empties out in PSG. Not many people left on board here. Nevertheless, it would almost fill right back up when the PSG passengers board. Again, a 40-min turn scheduled here. Not much to do but download photos and charge my camera (then take more photos).

Combi seating:


Safety card:


Cabin view:


The shortest segment was next: PSG-WRG is about 31 miles... not a huge distance to cover for a 737. We would fly at roughly 3,000 ft the entire way there (my estimate), avoiding islands when possible. The cloud cover at ~6,000 ft was rather ominous, but no storm occurred. I'll do my best to post some videos as well...

To WRG, cruising at ~3000 ft the whole way:


Landscapes again:


WRG has another of these small terminals, like YAK, CDV and PSG.

WRG terminal:


Runway's end:


Another short flight next, right down to Ketchikan, a bigger town in SE AK. Somewhere around 10,000 people live there, I believe.

Again, not much to report from during the flight, as the very short flight time doesn't allow for many good or bad experiences. In any situation, we were soon on finals to KTN, airport which even features at least one jetway—crazy, man! Greater nebulosity on this segment to Ketchikan, meaning fewer photos to enjoy.

Short flight to KTN:


Clouds starting to roll in:


Temperate rainforest? I can sorta see that!

On approach:


On finals:


KTN meant another 40-minute stop. I was getting quite hungry at this point—hadn't eaten much since breakfast. Not very healthy for me, especially looking at AS' catering options.

KTN town:


KTN terminal:


By the way, KTN is very interesting—the runway is at one level and the terminal much lower. The aircraft has to gain 20 meters (maybe) when taxiing to the runway's end. I hope you can see it here.

Sloping taxiway:


Take-off:


OK, I was getting quite hungry. AS offers some snack boxes on its not-too-long flights, so that's what I'd be getting. Had to eat something!

For 6$ I got this... mostly for the TR and because there was little else to eat:


The popcorn was quite bad... the rest is better. OK when hungry.

To verify it is a Combi:


The increased nebulosity continued here, so this is what I had to contend with... Soon (1hr 30' flight) we were on descent to SEA, again around sunset.

Into SEA again:


Looking down, I notice Boeing Field and a bunch of craft awaiting delivery below our aircraft—as well as the Museum of Flight.

Are those all 787s (no, they're not)? Is there, like, a... backlog or something?


Clearly, there was not much flying time left. We land on 16R and proceed to gate C-14 I think, where we disembark by stairs—mandatory for the Combi but incredibly rare in the States.

Under the... ah, you know!


Not Boeing? Not going, at least on AS:

I grab some food at the local burrito place and fill my stomach up, before walking around SEA's concourses. Then I go to DL's South Satellite building to wait for my flight to MSP.

Concourse A in SEA:


Random views:


My red-eye A320 to MSP:


Regarding this flight—I obtained another upgrade, but I slept the whole way. when I arrived in SEA, I went somewhere close to my gate to relax and unwind.

15 minutes later a white trash family arrived and, even though the gate area was completely empty, chose to sit right behind me. The mother controlled her child as an earwig controlled my Boeing 737 flight from Ketchikan. She gave him no attention whatsoever. That's when I looked around and saw her. Too frickin' absorbed in her lecture material (either some shitty gossip magazine or a 50 Shades of Gray copy, of course) to care about her kid. I don't blame the kid—he just wanted to play with one of MSP's free iPads to use while waiting, but his mother was too lazy to supervise him while doing so. Soon after, I moved to a section that was as quiet as a mouse. As quiet as one particular mouse, scurrying across the floor 

Also, a glimpse of one of MSP's free iPad usage areas:


Mus musculus in MSP:


The flight to MDW was uneventful, so no commentary or photos, sorry!

Conclusions:

Alaska Airlines is a nice airline which I can recommend. I enjoyed my flights on them. In September 2012, I did encounter a terrible F/A who kept throwing stuff onto passengers' tray-tables instead of placing them there but you can't win them all.

SEA airport is a good place to connect, with free wi-fi and good amenities.

Anchorage is an OK town, not very interesting, though. ANC is a nice airport that even has a view point.

Juneau is in a terrifically beautiful spot, but it's not the most interesting place in the world. The Mt. Roberts Experience is nice but overpriced...

The Milk Runs—I don't have to say I recommend doing one or two, right? 

Delta, as usual, delivers for me. There's a reason I keep flying on DL.

For you, my loyal readers, an extra: pics from my SEA trip in 2012, including some from the Museum of Flight (of course!).

Corner Market:


Original Starbucks:


Seattle Architecture:


Seattle Aquarium:


Seattle Waterfront:


On a Cruise:


Seattle Downtown:


Space Needle:


Lake; a floatplane had recently taken off (I think from this lake, but not 100% sure):


View of Downtown from the top of the Needle:


To the north:


Space Needle:


BTW, I ate at a very good and modern restaurant right by there—hell, I didn't expect it to be so good given we were in a very touristic area. Its name was Collections Cafe—my mother had the Octopus starter and I had the steak menu option at that time—Tri-Tip.

Next day... well, 'allo there:


A winglet:


Monsieur Concorde:


Boeing 707, ex-”Air Force One”:


Concorde interior:


737-100... good to see one, at least:


Markus—I dedicate this 731 shot to you:


Air Force One interior:


B707 cockpit:


727 T-tail:


747 old style:


Constellation:


A 707 and a Tu-104:


The Lindbergh Line:


A Mexicana Comet:


Blackbird:


Modern Architecture:


A street in downtown Seattle:


The future... is already here:


And here's Buzz Aldrin:


And, yes, that's the real Buzz Aldrin, the 2nd man on the Moon—there was some sort of convention/talk happening at the Museum when I was there!

Any questions? Please ask.
Any comments? Please say.
Any requests? Please don't be shy!

I hope you enjoyed reading my TR... Not a very long one this time. Tell me, friends, should I add more text for my next one? Fewer photos and more text? Which is more important (obviously I'll feature both, but I'm curious)? What do you think?

Previous TRs:

Alaska Milk Run Part 1 (ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU), AS B734 (by dc9northwest Aug 18 2013 in Trip Reports)
NY Fokker 50 And FI B757, With Icelandic Scenery (by dc9northwest Aug 3 2013 in Trip Reports)
Føroyar Og Atlantic Airways: Tórshavn, A319, RJ85 (by dc9northwest Jun 21 2013 in Trip Reports)
LOT 763, E75, Warsaw And Copenhagen (by dc9northwest Jun 19 2013 in Trip Reports)
ICN-NRT-LAX-MSP-MDW On KE 332, MH 772 And DL (Y) (by dc9northwest Jun 8 2013 in Trip Reports)
Kyoto, The KE A300-600, And Seoul (by dc9northwest Apr 2 2013 in Trip Reports)
Going To Tokyo... Alitalia 777-200ER, MXP-NRT (by dc9northwest Jan 13 2013 in Trip Reports)
Blue Err... To Bergamo And Milano (by dc9northwest Jan 8 2013 in Trip Reports)
First Time To Canada: RO 733, KL M11, Porter DH4 (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
Austrian To VIE, Plus Bratislava And A Schnitzel (by dc9northwest Dec 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
SFO-JFK On AA, 762, And LGA-MDW On WN, 738 (by dc9northwest Dec 19 2012 in Trip Reports)
California Dreamin': Virgin To SFO (by dc9northwest Dec 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Moldovan Adventure: Chisinau And 9U From VCE To OT (by dc9northwest Aug 27 2012 in Trip Reports)
AZ, MLA-FCO-BLQ, And San Marino (by dc9northwest Aug 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
To Malta On Emirates' A330-200 (LCA-MLA) (by dc9northwest Aug 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
TAROM, OTP-LCA, B737-300, And Nicosia (by dc9northwest Aug 23 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part V: LYR-OTP, SK/OS, 73G/100 (by dc9northwest Aug 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part IV: Tromsø Og Svalbard (by dc9northwest Aug 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
Part III: Bodø, And A Widerøe Dash 8 To Tromsø (by dc9northwest Jul 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part II: Bergen/Trondheim (by dc9northwest Jul 25 2012 in Trip Reports)
Norway, Part I: OTP-FRA-OSL, LH, A320 (by dc9northwest Jul 22 2012 in Trip Reports)
Delta's 757-300, FLL-ATL, 22MAY12 (by dc9northwest Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
ORD-JFK-FCO-OTP, B6/DL/AZ, June 2012 (by dc9northwest Jun 16 2012 in Trip Reports)
Bahamasair's 737-200, UP205, 21MAY12 (by dc9northwest May 24 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, ORD-CDG, Delta, 763 (by dc9northwest Apr 8 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, FCO-JFK-ORD, Delta, 333/CR7 (by dc9northwest Apr 1 2012 in Trip Reports)
March 2012, OTP-FCO, Alitalia, A319 (by dc9northwest Mar 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
MCI-OTP: Three Upgrades And A380 Flight Deck Visit (by dc9northwest Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Baltic States In 6 Easy Flights (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Romanian TR: Bucuresti-Suceava Via Timisoara (by dc9northwest Dec 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Connecting In ATL, Right Before The Snowstorm (by dc9northwest Mar 1 2010 in Trip Reports)
MCI-ATL-AMS-OTP With DL And KL (60+pics And Vids) (by Dc9northwest Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)

[Edited 2013-09-03 11:23:47]

[Edited 2013-09-03 11:25:00]

24 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11892 times:

Hey Alex. Glad you posted the second segment of your Alaska trip so soon. I was eager to see how those Milk runs are done up there! Great photos as usual! What a lovely state Alaska is! How fascinating.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
had lost power. Interesting stuff here. Not something you'd usually expect from a civilized country.

Why so surprised? It happens in the Balkans all the time. Oh, I'm sorry, you said "civilized".

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Some nice otters playing in the water:

Beautiful!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Then he proceeds to brag they taught him how to swear in Bulgarian and say all the bad words. His favorite was “pichka”. I'll let Stojan explain that one to you

How old were his co-workers? 12? Isn't child labor illegal in Alaska?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Timbeeeeeer(s):

Sweet livery! (even if I can't see most of it)

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The shortest segment was next: PSG-WRG is about 31 miles...

Wow, surely it's not economical to use 737s for such a short hop. I wonder whether somebody else (with smaller aircraft) should have taken the EAS for this route.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
To WRG, cruising at ~3000 ft the whole way:

That's crazy (but also makes sense). That's lower than our Cessna flights to DEC and STL...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
KTN town:

I've recently finished a book about Ketchikan. It's about a dude from Oklahoma who wants to move and live in Ketchikan so he builds a boat, sails down the Mississippi, down the eastern coast of Mexico, through the Panama Canal, up the western coast of Central America, up the western US coast and all the way up to Ketchikan. Real story. He must have REALLY liked Ketchikan.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Also, a glimpse of one of MSP's free iPad usage areas:

Those lamps above the iPads look kinda like Halloween lanterns...

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Tell me, friends, should I add more text for my next one? Fewer photos and more text? Which is more important (obviously I'll feature both, but I'm curious)? What do you think?

My point of view on the subject is as follows: The amount of text should depend on what kind of material you have in your hands. If the flights were pretty standard, without anything exceptional going on then keep the text short and let the photos do the talking. No need for "I checked in for my flight, then went to the bathroom and then ate a banana".. Of course you need to keep the story flowing so things like that need to be mentioned but they should be relatively brief. If however there is an important observation or point of discussion then go crazy and write as much as necessary to drive the point across. The same goes for photos. If you have photos that are either relevant to the trip, or of nice scenery, add them without worrying about how many they are. If however the photos are irrelevant or if they do not add anything to the report then leave them out even if your report is short on photos. No need for cloudy wingshot after cloudy wingshot. As for destination photos, there are NEVER enough of them in any report  .

Basically, my view is that there is no "right" or "optimal" amount of text and photos. It's all relative.

Thank you very much for the fun read, Alex. I'm currently fighting a jet lag and your report helped me wake up  .

Stojan



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5936 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11406 times:

Hi Alex,

Fantastic continuation to your milkrun series. Once again I loved it all. The scenery is absolutely stunning, and AS look like a nice airline. It's a shame that Juneau isn't more exciting, as its location could not be beat.

Flying through that landscape at 3,000' must have been absolutely breathtakingly stunning, you are very, very fortunate to have had the opportunity! And your lucky to catch a combi!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
you can't see Russia!

Bugger   

As for report style, I agree 110% with Widebodyroga:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
The amount of text should depend on what kind of material you have in your hands. If the flights were pretty standard, without anything exceptional going on then keep the text short and let the photos do the talking ... If however there is an important observation or point of discussion then go crazy and write as much as necessary to drive the point across. The same goes for photos. If you have photos that are either relevant to the trip, or of nice scenery, add them without worrying about how many they are

  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
As for destination photos, there are NEVER enough of them in any report

   Absolutely agree.

Thanks for putting this stunning trip report series together, it is one of my favorites I've ever read!!!

(no, I mean it!)

Happy flying,
Alex



Worked Hard, Flew Right
User currently offlineKaphias From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11208 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Well, I didn't get far into my order when the power cut... Shit. Oh well, it seemed that it wasn't just my hotel who suffered from this fate—seemingly most of downtown Juneau had lost power. Interesting stuff here. Not something you'd usually expect from a civilized country.

It actually happens quite often, usually due to trees falling into the lines. I'm sure you noticed there's lots of them around.   It's also occurred during the winter, when an avalanche knocks down the lines leading south of town to the hydroelectric facility.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Now, Juneau's a rather small town, and not an interesting one due to its man-made tourist attractions, but because of its terrific scenery.

To truly experience Juneau (and the surrounding areas), you have to spend the time and effort to get of the tourist routes and, like most places, follow the locals. The tramway is probably one of your best bets when on a tight schedule.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Juneau also features a very interesting State Capitol. Unfortunately, it's rather boring-looking and doesn't have a dome on top. Shame.

Several years ago, the state asked for designs for a new capital complex on a site just down the hill from the current building. The designs were so awful that the current State Capital building is undergoing restoration, and a parking garage has been build on the proposed site.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
And they have a bald eagle in captivity.

Courtesy Juneau Raptor Center. I think I've seen another species of bird up there at one point, but can't say for sure.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
On the way there I heard a sound... not sure what it was at first but soon I realized some Otters were landing on Gastineau Channel and proceeding to dock right next to my current location.

Took one of those up to the Lodge about a month ago. Great flight, absolutely must-do for an aviation enthusiast.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
An interestingly shaped mountain:

Devils Thumb. Located on the Alaska-Canada border and home to the largest rock face in North America.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
And finally, touchdown. Always funny to turn around in the middle of the runway, especially because the runway itself is not all that small and short!

I've only flown into PSG once; after my ANC-JNU combi flight missed and had to go on. I still remember stepping off the plane and getting our bags through the door, and feeling pretty bad for the poor CSA who suddenly had a whole load of people to try and get back to JNU. We ended up taking an overnight ferry back... so I've never flown out of PSG.

This flight is #1 on my must do list, and your report has only re-upped my desire to get on it before something happens to change any part of it. Thanks for sharing!



Flown on: C150, C172, C206, Beaver, Otter, Jetstream 32, Q400, CRJ7/9, E135/40/45, A320, B732/4/7/8/9, B744, B752, B763
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6670 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11201 times:

Hi Alex !

Very nice report with very nice pictures ! Especially nice are the pictures of the landscape in Alaska.

Flights look okay but nothing special.

Very good that you were able to get on the 737-400 Combi. It must be weird to have so few seats in Y and also in the back at that.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
To WRG, cruising at ~3000 ft the whole way:

Nice !

Very nice pictures of the planes at Museum of Flight! I was there in May 1995 for the first time and it's a very good museum.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The Lindbergh Line:

Perhaps a DC-2 rather than -3 ?

Very nice picture of a very nice airplane!

Thanks again for this great report and looking forward to the next one from you!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinepdx From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11088 times:

Nice report! Didn't know AS combi planes didn't use a jetway at SEA. Your pics are beautiful. Nice job! You said at the end of your report the flight back to MDW was uneventful. Did you mean MSP? The Connie is new since I've been to the Museum of Flight. Could you go aboard?

User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10769 times:

Hi everyone, thanks for your comments--also, here are some videos!

Landing in Cordova:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4IH6dIJrg

Landing in Juneau:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js0d_yA8oxo

Approach to Wrangell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg_Anux4dz8

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Hey Alex. Glad you posted the second segment of your Alaska trip so soon. I was eager to see how those Milk runs are done up there! Great photos as usual! What a lovely state Alaska is! How fascinating.

Hello my friend. Just read your report--comments coming up soon   Thanks for reading mine!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Why so surprised? It happens in the Balkans all the time. Oh, I'm sorry, you said "civilized".

LOL. Yeah...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
How old were his co-workers? 12? Isn't child labor illegal in Alaska?

You still haven't explained to the good people of Airliners.net what it means. What else were they going to teach him? Hristo Botev and Hristo Stoichkov Stoichkov's names? 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Wow, surely it's not economical to use 737s for such a short hop. I wonder whether somebody else (with smaller aircraft) should have taken the EAS for this route.

Interesting thought. I'm not sure. It seems like they're doing fine, and a smaller plane wouldn't go all the way to Seattle direct...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
That's crazy (but also makes sense). That's lower than our Cessna flights to DEC and STL...

Yeah, it is crazy. It was also much shorter than those flights  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Those lamps above the iPads look kinda like Halloween lanterns...

Hah, now that you mention it, I see it! 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Basically, my view is that there is no "right" or "optimal" amount of text and photos. It's all relative.

Thank you very much for the fun read, Alex. I'm currently fighting a jet lag and your report helped me wake up  .

Thanks for your opinion--I'm just quoting this, but I did read all of it, I promise!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Hi Alex,

Fantastic continuation to your milkrun series. Once again I loved it all. The scenery is absolutely stunning, and AS look like a nice airline. It's a shame that Juneau isn't more exciting, as its location could not be beat.

Hi Alex,

Thanks very much for the praise--Juneau's still alright, just not very vibrant. Also, it has 30,000 people, and for a town that size it's a rather interesting place.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Flying through that landscape at 3,000' must have been absolutely breathtakingly stunning, you are very, very fortunate to have had the opportunity! And your lucky to catch a combi!

Oh, it was stunning--watch my video if you want to see part of it!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Absolutely agree.

Thanks for putting this stunning trip report series together, it is one of my favorites I've ever read!!!

(no, I mean it!)

Haha, thanks, mate. I really appreciate it!

Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):
It actually happens quite often, usually due to trees falling into the lines. I'm sure you noticed there's lots of them around.   It's also occurred during the winter, when an avalanche knocks down the lines leading south of town to the hydroelectric facility.

True, lots of those pesky trees--although, it was fixed within a couple of hours so maybe it was not a tree--but you know better than me!

Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):
To truly experience Juneau (and the surrounding areas), you have to spend the time and effort to get of the tourist routes and, like most places, follow the locals. The tramway is probably one of your best bets when on a tight schedule.

That's very true as well, sir. Usually it's good to do that no matter the destination. Alas, not much time in Alaska for me...

Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):
Several years ago, the state asked for designs for a new capital complex on a site just down the hill from the current building. The designs were so awful that the current State Capital building is undergoing restoration, and a parking garage has been build on the proposed site.

Hm, yes, there was a lot of construction going on. I'd just go with a dome on top of the current building myself 
Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):
Devils Thumb. Located on the Alaska-Canada border and home to the largest rock face in North America.

Nice name and cool to know!

Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):

I've only flown into PSG once; after my ANC-JNU combi flight missed and had to go on. I still remember stepping off the plane and getting our bags through the door, and feeling pretty bad for the poor CSA who suddenly had a whole load of people to try and get back to JNU. We ended up taking an overnight ferry back... so I've never flown out of PSG.

The population of Petersburg doubled in a few minutes :pp (just kidding, of course). Overnight ferry doesn't sound all that fun to me, I must say.

Quoting Kaphias (Reply 3):
This flight is #1 on my must do list, and your report has only re-upped my desire to get on it before something happens to change any part of it. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for reading, Kaphias! Good luck in your quest.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Hi Alex !

Very nice report with very nice pictures ! Especially nice are the pictures of the landscape in Alaska.

Hi L.,

Thanks very much, glad you liked the pictures!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Very good that you were able to get on the 737-400 Combi. It must be weird to have so few seats in Y and also in the back at that.

It's kinda strange indeed, isn't it? But a nice experience nonetheless!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Very nice pictures of the planes at Museum of Flight! I was there in May 1995 for the first time and it's a very good museum.

Thanks again--it was quite nice in my experience too.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Perhaps a DC-2 rather than -3 ?

You may be right... It's been a while and I'm not sure I actually checked what it was!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Thanks again for this great report and looking forward to the next one from you!

Thanks! Gonna be a trip to a small mountainous country in Western Europe. Not a transatlantic journey, mind you.

Quoting pdx (Reply 5):
Nice report! Didn't know AS combi planes didn't use a jetway at SEA. Your pics are beautiful. Nice job! You said at the end of your report the flight back to MDW was uneventful. Did you mean MSP? The Connie is new since I've been to the Museum of Flight. Could you go aboard?

Yeah, it's kinda hard to use a jetway if the only usable door is at the back of the cabin, as you can imagine!

Thanks very much!

I actually meant the MSP-MDW segment, but I guess you're right, the SEA-MSP flight was also uneventful!

No, I don't think it was possible to go aboard the Connie and that time--IIRC, only on the Concorde and AF1 707...

Thanks for your comments, guys!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1030 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10609 times:

Hello Alex,

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
(in case you like to see destination pics—I definitely do!)

So do I, especially if they are from such an off the beaten path destination! Great report again - absolutely stunning scenery along the way, and such a long milk run in a 737 must quite a fun experience. Thanks for sharing!


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10243 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Hello Alex,

Hello Robert,

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
So do I, especially if they are from such an off the beaten path destination! Great report again - absolutely stunning scenery along the way, and such a long milk run in a 737 must quite a fun experience. Thanks for sharing!

Alright, I'm glad we all tend to agree here!

Thanks very much for reading and commenting--yeah, it's pretty cool to do a Milk Run in a 737...


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1177 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10111 times:
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Hi Alex,

Was looking forward to part 2. Another great report you made here with more stunning pictures  
Great second part of the milk run, too bad the weather wasn't all too best!
Congrats on logging the 737 combi, must have been weird flying a 737 with so few rows and only in the back!
Great pictures of Juneau as well, so beautiful!

Looking forward to your next report!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 950 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

Alex, all I can say is Wow. Awesome photos. Alaska is a very special place. I have only visited ANC, FAI, and a few small communities like Homer, Soldotna, Valdez (pre-Exxon spill) and Mt. McKinley. I would love to do the milk run some time. BTW, my good friends were Palins neighbor...but that was in Wasilla not
JNU, think she preferred the suburbs of ANC over JNU, it was easier to see Russia from there!!!



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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9628 times:

Great trip report! I've always wanted to do one of these AS milk runs...I suppose I should probably look into it living in SEA and all. Really enjoyed the pictures, keep 'em coming!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Boarding Shot:

I hopped over to my FlightMemory page when I saw this because I thought N775AS (in its pre-combi days) was on my tail number list for a second...turns out it's not, but I did note that I've been on 773, 774 and 776!



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1965 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9565 times:
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Great finish to your "Alaska Milk Run" trip, dc9northwest!

Looks like you had some great flights back with AS. How fun to spend the day flying short hops, and witnessing beautiful scenery.

Great photos from your whole trip. I just love the pacific NW; I try to spend as much time as I can there!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9439 times:

Hey Alex,

Great photos! I did the milk run quite a few years ago and enjoyed it. One thing you missed in JNU is the Alaska State Museum...pretty good, and also the Mendenhall Glacier. I think my favorite thing was the hiking. I hiked up to the top of the mountain on the trail and then took the tram back down. Think that was a lot more enjoyable than just taking the tram both ways.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9234 times:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 9):
Was looking forward to part 2. Another great report you made here with more stunning pictures  
Great second part of the milk run, too bad the weather wasn't all too best!
Congrats on logging the 737 combi, must have been weird flying a 737 with so few rows and only in the back!
Great pictures of Juneau as well, so beautiful!

Hey Brendan,

Thanks very much! The weather was decent for this "temperature rainforest" climate in AS Air Limited (Kenya)">SE Alaska. 737 combi is getting more and more rare, glad I caught them! JNU features some really nice scenery indeed.

Thanks again,
Alex

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 10):
Alex, all I can say is Wow. Awesome photos. Alaska is a very special place. I have only visited ANC, FAI, and a few small communities like Homer, Soldotna, Valdez (pre-Exxon spill) and Mt. McKinley. I would love to do the milk run some time. BTW, my good friends were Palins neighbor...but that was in Wasilla not
JNU, think she preferred the suburbs of ANC over JNU, it was easier to see Russia from there!!!

Hi William,

Thanks very much! AK is indeed special--lovely landscapes. I haven't visited small towns but I'm a city person myself, though nice scenery is always a plus.

I guess Wasilla is closer to AK but I think it's just as hard to see Russia from there 
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 11):
Great trip report! I've always wanted to do one of these AS milk runs...I suppose I should probably look into it living in SEA and all. Really enjoyed the pictures, keep 'em coming!

Thanks Gunsontheroof, I would advise to bite the bullet and do the milk-run whenever you get the chance. You never know what might happen to them! Thanks!

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 11):
I hopped over to my FlightMemory page when I saw this because I thought N775AS (in its pre-combi days) was on my tail number list for a second...turns out it's not, but I did note that I've been on 773, 774 and 776!

So, when where the 734s converted to Combi? And before that, AS used 732s in that configuration, right?

Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
Great finish to your "Alaska Milk Run" trip, dc9northwest!

Looks like you had some great flights back with AS. How fun to spend the day flying short hops, and witnessing beautiful scenery.

Thanks Matthew,

Quite a fun experience all around, I'd say! If you can stand for hours in a small seat like that, at least 

Nice scenery in the Pacific NW, you're right!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
Great photos from your whole trip. I just love the pacific NW; I try to spend as much time as I can there!
Quoting EIPremier (Reply 13):
Hey Alex,

Great photos! I did the milk run quite a few years ago and enjoyed it. One thing you missed in JNU is the Alaska State Museum...pretty good, and also the Mendenhall Glacier. I think my favorite thing was the hiking. I hiked up to the top of the mountain on the trail and then took the tram back down. Think that was a lot more enjoyable than just taking the tram both ways.

Hi EIPremier,

Thanks very much. Unfortunately, not enough time for the Mendenhall Glacier. Indeed I missed the State Museum. Is it still open. I heard it would be closed for renovations or something of the sort so I didn't try.

Well, if I were to hike, I'd hike down the mountain having taken the tram up  

Cheers everyone, and thanks for your comments!

Alex


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9082 times:

Hi Alex

Great report on the rare 737 combi, good you caught one of those milk-runs again.
Superb pics as well.
Enjoyed the pics of SEA, high on my to-do list as well.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7970 times:

Back for more...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 6):
You still haven't explained to the good people of Airliners.net what it means. What else were they going to teach him? Hristo Botev and Hristo Stoichkov Stoichkov's names? 

It means "wiener". I guess I was expecting them to teach the guy some more "grown up" dirty words and not that.  
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 6):
Interesting thought. I'm not sure. It seems like they're doing fine, and a smaller plane wouldn't go all the way to Seattle direct...

I guess you are right. But being a person obsessed with fuel economy I can't help but cringe thinking how much fuel is being wasted during take-off for that little hop.  .



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User currently offlineBlackandWhite From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 7953 times:

From your pics enroute seems little has changed since I flew that flt 25 yrs ago, only thing is in those days you got a hot meal KTN-SEA
I flew on the otter on the left of the picture of the Juneau Harbor seaplane base ,N339AK operated by WingsAlaska, on o 40mins excursion over the surrounding glacier field, spectacular


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Hi Alex

Great report on the rare 737 combi, good you caught one of those milk-runs again.
Superb pics as well.
Enjoyed the pics of SEA, high on my to-do list as well.

Hi Marc, thanks for your comments!

Thanks also for the compliments  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 16):
Back for more...

Welcome back.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 16):
It means "wiener". I guess I was expecting them to teach the guy some more "grown up" dirty words and not that.  

Oh really? On the internet I found it meant.... erm, how do I put this nicely? "Female wiener"... er no... "black hole"? Ah, the place where babies enter the world, at least without modern medicine.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 16):
I guess you are right. But being a person obsessed with fuel economy I can't help but cringe thinking how much fuel is being wasted during take-off for that little hop.  .

You're obsessed with fuel economy? May I recommend a Prius?  
Quoting BlackandWhite (Reply 17):

From your pics enroute seems little has changed since I flew that flt 25 yrs ago, only thing is in those days you got a hot meal KTN-SEA
I flew on the otter on the left of the picture of the Juneau Harbor seaplane base ,N339AK operated by WingsAlaska, on o 40mins excursion over the surrounding glacier field, spectacular

Hi Blackandwhite,

Thanks for your comments--interesting to hear the situation 25 years ago.

A glacier flight must indeed be spectacular--congrats!


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7074 times:

Hello dc9northwest,

Definitely very nice to see some more of the ‘milkman’ stuff. And boy, you certainly got yourself to fly on one succulent vessel with the B734 combi. I wasn’t even aware that the cargo storage is in the front  Wow! Good to have witnessed some more of that amazing Alaskan scenery as well!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Injured Bald Eagle held in captivity:

What a gorgeous bird of prey. I hope he.she will be free again soon.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Regional concourse at JNU

Was that bear being nude-o-scanned or something like that 

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Our flight to Petersburg

At first I misread that as St Petersburg but the more words I read, I realised that really couldn’t be  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
For 6$ I got this... mostly for the TR and because there was little else to eat

Was there any item among those of any use. Appears not...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6801 times:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):

Hello dc9northwest,

Definitely very nice to see some more of the ‘milkman’ stuff. And boy, you certainly got yourself to fly on one succulent vessel with the B734 combi. I wasn’t even aware that the cargo storage is in the front   Good to have witnessed some more of that amazing Alaskan scenery as well!

Hello Sultanils--

Thank you, thank you. Glad to have some milk to offer while you're visiting, I guess 

I guess it is unusual to see the cargo compartment in front.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
What a gorgeous bird of prey. I hope he.she will be free again soon.

As far I know, it couldn't really survive in the wild--missing one eye after being shot...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
Was that bear being nude-o-scanned or something like that 

Yes--they found more than 100ml of honey in its stomach, I think.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
At first I misread that as St Petersburg but the more words I read, I realised that really couldn’t be  

Yeah... long flight for a 737  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
Was there any item among those of any use. Appears not...

Enough to last me until Seattle, when I grabbed something more consistent 


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6937 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6537 times:

Hi Alex,

another good once again report, full of nice pictures.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
For 6$ I got this... mostly for the TR and because there was little else to eat:

I also bought that when I tried AS some years ago.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Are those all 787s (no, they're not)? Is there, like, a... backlog or something?

Boeing delivers almost 40 737s per month, so they need to be parked somethere before delivery.


PH



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5129 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Very cool report. Thanks for taking us with you. I have a lot of interest to do an Alaska run, but my thought was to fly ERA Alaska Air. Did you see any of their aircraft on your visit?

Saludos,
Alex



Live, and let live.
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12334 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5240 times:
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Excellent report. Those pictures certainly do all the talking in regards to the amazing scenery!

I'm considering going to Alaska in July and am now seriously considering doing a milk run!


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4869 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Hi Alex,

another good once again report, full of nice pictures.

Hi PlaneHunter,

Thanks for your comments  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 22):
Very cool report. Thanks for taking us with you. I have a lot of interest to do an Alaska run, but my thought was to fly ERA Alaska Air. Did you see any of their aircraft on your visit?

Thanks for your comments, Alex.

I think I did see some Era Aircraft taking off but I can't be sure so long after the fact. I think I saw some of their Beeches though.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 23):
Excellent report. Those pictures certainly do all the talking in regards to the amazing scenery!

I'm considering going to Alaska in July and am now seriously considering doing a milk run!

Thanks, 777ER!

Milk runs are cool. If you have the time, why not?  


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