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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6049 times:

HELLO

and welcome to my latest and 4th tripreport here on airliners.net. This time I am going to report about two short flights around europe, which were nevertheless quite nice. I also will post some impressoins of the city of Paris, which I like a lot. This trip was the last one during my summer break, one of the other trips can be found here:

MiddleEast Part 1:The Golden Falcon GF FRA-BAH-DXB (by Luxair747SP Aug 22 2013 in Trip Reports)

My routing:

LUX-CDG on LUXAIR

CDG-FRA on AIR FRANCE

This trip is the returnpart of my FRA-LUX return booking, the outbound leg can be found here:

KLM Y-Class FRA-AMS-LUX + Crown Lounge (by Emek96 Jun 18 2013 in Trip Reports)

AUGUST THE 16TH

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LUX airport

The day begun as usual when I trip around, rather early. Today my alarm rang at 4.30AM, and at 5AM the journey should begin, this time my brother would drive me from SCN directely to LUX airport which takes a bit less than 1 hour in the night when there is no trafic on the Autobahn.
After a calm journey we finally arrived in front of LUX airport, my brother drop off me in front of the terminal and went away directely. I made my way inside and what I found was the typical LUX-emptyness. It is my 10th travel out of LUX, and every time, whatever the time of the day was, it was totally deserted. In general they only build that bulding to show off, I think I heard that many luxembourg people were angry about the opening of the building in I think 2007, because Luxembourg should buy ''useful'' things with the taxes of the people.
Anyway, I made my way for the Luxair check-in counters, I opted for the Business counter because there was somebody at the Eco desk, they had open just 2 desks for ALL there flights that morning. Well, the main rush-hour was just over with 10 depatures but really busy, it never is.

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Main Terminal LUX

Next step security, and what a surprise nobody here again, it took maybe 30 seconds, I put my backpack on the belt, went threw and finish.
After security of course the same emptyness. I directely went to the lounge which is just 20 meters from the right hand side security check. I went in and handed over my BP. Surprisingly, the nice agnet requested my FlyingBlue card, and put my number and name into the PC, if Lufthansa would do that, they would have a line on 200 meters there during peak time   .
But now into the lounge: It was my second time today visiting the Luxair lounge, and I entered and found nobody else there, what a great experience, a lounge only for myself!!
Well, I had luck because from 5.30 on up to 6.30, Luxair has about 10 depatures to every business destination in Europe, and during that time there are crowds of Miles and More FTLs in the lounge, and with a depature time of 8AM, there were no other flights around and I had luck.

The lounge itself has nice offers, everything I need. They had nice croissants, drinks in 0,2 glass bottles and a good stock of spirits, and of course other things to eat.
I took a seat at the window with perfect view on the runway, which was quite busy that time, many LG depatures, and a landing of QR 777 and a Cargolux 747.
After using the free Wifi with the iPad, I just relaxed for 15 mins with a nice glass of Baileys and some fruit salad, all in all a perfect start of a trip.

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The buffet

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My food today

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Totally empty!

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My 2nd meal

I finally left the lounge 5 mins before boarding would start, which is more than enough here in LUX, the walk to my gate took about 1 minute, not more. My flight was the one and only depature for the next hour, that means the airside area was totally deserted. Once arrived at the gate I counted around 25 people, which means a very light load again here, in the last weeks I only was on one crowded flight which was A3 from ATH to FRA.

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LUX airside

My plan worked fine and not 30 seconds after arriving at the gate, boarding started, the announcements every time take much time here because they announce absolutely everthing in 4 languages.

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A totally empty ramp

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The gate

Boarding of course via buses with an ERJ 145 flight.

THE FLIGHT LUX-CDG

AIRLINE: LUXAIR
AIRCRAFT: ERJ 145 LX-LGI
LOAD: ~50 %
DURATION: 30 minutes
SEAT: 17A

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Hello LX-LGI

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And again!



After a short bus drive we arrived at our Embraer, which looks really great in Luxair livery.
At the door there was the only FA of the flight, a maybe 35 years old woman from Luxembourg. I walked down to my second last row window seat on the A-side which means window and aisle in one. I didn't choose the last row because there was the risk to have the engine directely in front of the window, but that is not the case on the ERJ, so if you should fly ERJ in the future you can choose the last row without any worries.
BTW the cabin of that aircraft is really small, I cound not really stand in the aisle, and I'm not the tallest at all with 1,83m, so for really tall people it can be very difficult to fly that aircraft.

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Inside the ERJ145

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The seats

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From the back

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After 15 mins the capain came on the speaker and welcomed the passengers. I think he was german, because he did his announcements only in german and in english; not in the language of LUX nor in french. A manual safety demo was done and we made our way for take off. Flying time 30 mins this morning, I think my second shortest flight, the shortest was LUX-SCN also on LG.

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Good legroom

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Taxiing to the runway

Take off was very short and powerful and we made a nice turn after take off, so we had a perfect view on the airport and on the city of LUX. Also, the views on the cargo ramp with 747s and a 77F were quite good.

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And on the runway

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And in the air

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Cargo ramp with some heavies

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And from the other side

After 5 mins or so after take off the FA went into action she came around and disribiuted coffee tea o-juice and muffins. I opted just for a water and for a muffin.

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My meal this morning

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Inflight cabin view

After that I listened music for maybe 10 mins and than the descent already begun, not even 20 mins after take off.
Another turn to the left and we were on final to CDG, sadly I sat on the wrong side, so I didn't have any views on Paris, I just had I look on to cornfields and factories, but didn't matter.

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Short final

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We finally touched dow, don't ask me which one, I don't know.

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And touched down

After another short taxiing we arrived our remote stand in front of terminal 2G. About T2G I have to say that it is very small and overcrowded, I think it is not a ''real'' terminal'', it more appears like a car parking hall, just like in Frankfurt Hahn (HHN).

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Taxiing

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T2G and some HOP! planes

After a short walk to the exit, I searched for a bus, I found out that there are free shuttle buses to T2F where all the trains, buses to Paris towncentre are departing. I waited maybe 3 mins and a bus came, arrived at T2F I went downstairs in the middle of that big circle and bought my bus tickets, I took the Roissy-Bus this time because the RER train was closed due maintenance, that bus also was the''cheapest'' with 20 € return price. It was a totally overcrowded hot bus, but 8€ cheaper than the AF coach.

I finally arrived at Paris Opéra and walked all the way to the Place de l'étoile, which was several kilometers, but I decided against the metro, because my budget didn't allowed it that day, all the money I had went away for the bus, I didn't spend even one penny during 5 hours Paris, well, that can be the live as a poor student.

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Well after my tour around the city, which was very nice as always, I took again the bus back to CDG and arrived there at about ~14.40. I left the bus at T2F, because I forgot to look where my flight departs in advance, but F turned out to be the true one. I went inside and thought that I already know that place, I think I checked in there more than 3 years ago for my AF A380 flight to LHR, I am not sure but I think so. The design of the terminal is quite nice, well, it is very simple without any colours, but I did like it.

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T2F curbside

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T2F check-in hall

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again

Than I went to the AF sky proirity desk to collect an Air France boarding pass, because I don't like the LUX ones.

Next stop was security, and I took not a minute for me, very nice experience here. After sec., I had a look for the AF lounge orthe salon, how AF calls it. I went to the lounge in the eastern pier of T2F, it is located on the lower level, where all the shops are, it was difficult to find it because the entrance was located behind the escalator, very poor here. The desk was staffed by 4 people, don't know why.

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The dark entrance

The lounge itself was very bad in my opinion, the AF lounge in FRA in much nicer. That one here is more less like a cave on the lower level of the building and has 2 floors, which both are very tight and small. Also the selection of was absolutely a shame, the only thing they had was 2 sorts of sausage WITHOUT any bread in addition they had the cookies you get inflight, later they served some veggie sanwiches, which tasted like cold 5 days old vegetables, the drink selection was OK, they had the normal standard of softdrinks, and a few liquors.
All in all it is a shame that AF offers such a lounge as a flgshiplounge on their main hub, really not good AF!

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View from my seat

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lower level

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My ''food'' , at least they had beer

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''apron'' views

I left the lounge after about 30 mins because it really wasn't better there than outside in the main terminal. I spent the time there until boarding begun.

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Very nice!

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My gate

Boarding begun on time, no priority boarding call today.

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The jetway


THE FLIGHT

AIRLINE: AIR FRANCE
AIRCRAFT: AIRBUS A 318 F-GUGF
LOAD: 100% in Economy, ~50% in Business
DURATION: 45 minutes
SEAT: 4A

Today I did choose a seat in the front of the cabin, directely behind the curtain. I have to say I liked it more than expected, because it feels more privete there.

At the door I was greeted by an older french woman who was not really friendly. I sat down in my row 4 at the window seat, both seats next to me were taken.

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The seats were really comfy because AF uses fabric seats insted of leather seats, thats what I like, because I dislike leather espacially on longer flights.
After a usual safety demo we quickly taxied to the runway and took off. The flighttime was announced with 40 (!) minutes.

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And take off !

So, directely the crew went into service and gave out some cookies and a drink. I think they could at least serve some kind of sandwich or so like LH does.

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Th meal

The flight passed fast and soon we already were on final for FRA, I really don't like afternoon flights within Europe, because I alway get tired when I woke up early around the afternoon.

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Nice weather today

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And already on final for 25L

Touch down in FRA was smooth, and taxiing took quite long because we did land from Frankfurt on 25L and had to taxi all the way back to Terminal 2, which wasn't that busy, well T2 actually is never really busy, after about 15 minutes we arrived at the remote parking position, I was wondered about that because AF normally have fingers in FRA, but maybe they want to save money now, it didn't matter for me because I prefer remote parkings anyway because you can spott the reg etc.

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My A318 today

In the bus back to the terminal I spotted also a quite rare, or better special visitor at FRA, well here it is, the pic is extremely bad because the sun was just behind but I think you can recognize it nevertheless:

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A380!!

Getting back home to SCN today was via the Deutsche Bahn, so I took the skyline to Terminal 1 and walked to the long distance train station, I finally arrived at SCN at 22.30 including a delay of 30 minutes.

From the skyline I also spotted the LAN 767-300ER standing at T1, does anyone know why they use T1 insted of T2 now?

CONCLUSION

LUXAIR:

LG was great as always, good service even on an 30 mins flight, also their lounge in LUX is really a nice place, but the ERJ 145 is a bit too small for my taste, I still prefer the standard planes like A320 etc.

AIR FRANCE

AF didn't impress me that day, espacially the lounge offer in T2F in not good for a flagship lounge facility, Onboard service is next to standard, they could serve somthing ''real'' insted of dry cookies. Also the flight attendents were not really friendly, they spoke to everybody only in french, which is not a problem for me but for others for sure. CDG is a nice airport IMO, both T1 and T2.


Thank you for reading that short report, I hope you enjoyed, and if you want to ask or comment something, just do so!

Greetings

Elias

13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineomidp From Canada, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

Thanks Emek for the great TR. The pictures were great. Could you tell me your camera's brand and style?

Thanks  


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Hi Elias, nice report!

Must say that the T2F Lounge looks rather disappointing, not what you'd expect from a carrier's home base. Though weren't you able to clear passport control and visit the lounge in 2E? I've heard it's much much better…

Thanks for sharing!



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

I agree. The ERJ is very noisy but smooth flying in my experience.

Isn't the train trip to Paris from Luxembourg only 2 hours? It does not make sense to fly the route?


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5136 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

Hey, E.,

good to see you´re story with some well known impressions from my trip to LUX with J. also involved.
Nice pictures also.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Hello, great report. Looks like you had a fun day out, and great weather to fly! Indeed, the AF lounges are nothing spectacular, although I do love their tomato soup  

User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Nice TR...

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
I went in and handed over my BP. Surprisingly, the nice agnet requested my FlyingBlue card, and put my number and name into the PC, if Lufthansa would do that, they would have a line on 200 meters there during peak time  .

So you can collect Skyteam points on Luxair flights as well? Didn't know that - maybe it's a codeshare with AF? Nice to know!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 7, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Hi Elias,

nice report, good to see you logged an A318 flight. Your first one?

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
BTW the cabin of that aircraft is really small, I cound not really stand in the aisle, and I'm not the tallest at all with 1,83m, so for really tall people it can be very difficult to fly that aircraft.

That's what I don't like about the ERJs either.

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
but the ERJ 145 is a bit too small for my taste, I still prefer the standard planes like A320 etc.

I'd take an A32X over an ERJ, CRJ or E-Jet any day.

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
Onboard service is next to standard, they could serve somthing ''real'' insted of dry cookies.

And it's a shame that AF serves instant coffee.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Hey Elias  

Great report and nice to see an LG one. Not too many on those  

AF lounges I find often forgetable when I have been in them. Such a shame really especially at their home base.

Anyway thanks for the report.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3712 times:
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Hi Elias!

Nice report, although a bit too many fish-eye views to my liking. But that is of course your choice!  
Looks like you had a nice day of flying and always nice to catch the A318!
I agree with you about the AF lounge down there, it isn't all too inspiring!

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
what a great experience, a lounge only for myself!!

That is indeed very nice, have had that happen to me once of twice before. It's especially nice for picture taking  
Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
the nice agnet requested my FlyingBlue card

Why your flying blue card? Or can you collect miles on the flight?

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
I just relaxed for 15 mins with a nice glass of Baileys

Baileys that early in the morning? :P

Quoting Emek96 (Thread starter):
so for really tall people it can be very difficult to fly that aircraft.

I know  

Thanks for sharing!

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3511 times:

Hey guys, thank for your comments so far!

Hi omidp!

Quoting omidp (Reply 1):
Thanks Emek for the great TR. The pictures were great. Could you tell me your camera's brand and style?

Thanks

Thanks too, I have a Nikon D300s and the lense I used is the Nikkor 10mm fisheye.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Hi Elias, nice report!

Hi Jonas, thanks.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Though weren't you able to clear passport control and visit the lounge in 2E? I've heard it's much much better…

Well, I hadn't that much time and I am not very familiar with T2 in CDG, so I just stayed in 2F.

Hey lychemsa!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 3):
Isn't the train trip to Paris from Luxembourg only 2 hours? It does not make sense to fly the route?

You are right, the TGV from LUX to Paris Est drives around 2 hours, but I want to fly, so I prefer the plane  

Hey Markus !

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
good to see you´re story with some well known impressions from my trip to LUX with J. also involved.
Nice pictures also.

Thanks!

Hey Robert!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 5):
Hello, great report. Looks like you had a fun day out, and great weather to fly! Indeed, the AF lounges are nothing spectacular, although I do love their tomato soup

Oh yes, the weather was just wonderful that day! Well, during my stay they didn't offer any soup, so I couldn't try it.

Hey debonair !

Quoting debonair (Reply 6):
Nice TR...

Thanks!

Quoting debonair (Reply 6):
So you can collect Skyteam points on Luxair flights as well? Didn't know that - maybe it's a codeshare with AF? Nice to know!

Oh I didn't mention that in the report, The Luxair flights to CDG are codeshareflights with AF, you collect miles/using status via Miles and More (FFP of Luxair) or Flying blue, I don't have status on M&M I used my Flyingblue Gold card.

Hey Udo !

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Hi Elias,

nice report, good to see you logged an A318 flight. Your first one?

Thanks. Yes it was my first flight on the A318, also on the ERJ145.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
I'd take an A32X over an ERJ, CRJ or E-Jet any day.

For me the same!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
And it's a shame that AF serves instant coffee.

I don't drink coffee, but that really is a shame nevertheless.

Hey Philip!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Hey Elias

Great report and nice to see an LG one. Not too many on those

Thanks.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
AF lounges I find often forgetable when I have been in them. Such a shame really especially at their home base.

Mabe their international lounges are better, but I don't think so.

Hey Brendan!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 9):
Nice report, although a bit too many fish-eye views to my liking. But that is of course your choice!

Thanks. On that day, I forgot to take my normal lense with me, normally, I would also involve some of the normal pics.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 9):
Why your flying blue card? Or can you collect miles on the flight?

As mentioned above, the Luxair flights to CDG are operated together with AF, you use M&M or Flying Blue, what you want. The same with the LG filghts to Rome FCO, also on that flights you can use Skyteam FFPs because that are codeshare flights with AZ.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 9):
Baileys that early in the morning? :P

No loungevisit without a drink, I don't care about the time  


Greetings

Elias


User currently offlineLuxair From Suriname, joined Jan 2001, 848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Thank you for this great, exciting and very detailed/interesting trip report! I enjoyed reading trough and watching all this amazing pictures, they give a very clear overview on what to expect by ex., flying out of LUX on LG!  


Marvin Lee Cooper
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3211 times:

Hi Elias

Good report, thanks for sharing it with us.
LG looks good, quite surprised what these little airlines do give..
AF seems to be less impressive, the lounge looks ok (ever been in the old 2C one? this is a huge improvement in comparision to that lounge).

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineEmek96 From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Hey Luxair !

Quoting Luxair (Reply 11):
Thank you for this great, exciting and very detailed/interesting trip report! I enjoyed reading trough and watching all this amazing pictures, they give a very clear overview on what to expect by ex., flying out of LUX on LG!

Nice to hear that you liked the report, Luxair still is one of the best carriers here in europe, but I think you know that beeing from Luxembourg  


Hey Marc !

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 12):
Hi Elias

Good report, thanks for sharing it with us.

Thanks Marc !

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 12):
LG looks good, quite surprised what these little airlines do give..

Yeah I also think that smaller airlines are still better than the big ones, the same with Skywork.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 12):
AF seems to be less impressive, the lounge looks ok (ever been in the old 2C one? this is a huge improvement in comparision to that lounge).

Well, the lounge design is not that bad, but IMO the selection of food and drinks is, in general AF lounges are not my taste, and no I haven't been to the old T2C lounge, I heard that they still have a lounge in T1 for former Concorde flights, which now is used as a cotract lounge for other airlines, nad which should be better than the other lounges

Greetings

Elias


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