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Propping To Andorra By TwinJet And SkyWork  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6807 times:

Hi everyone, and welcome to my new report about propping about, to Andorra and back.

Why Andorra? Why not. It's a country, and I told myself I should see all the countries (and self-governing territories) in Europe; Andorra was one of the few remaining Western European countries left on this list.

How to get to Andorra?

Aside from the fact that this little country is in the middle of some big mountains, and that there's no commercial airport closer than a 3 hours' drive to Andorra (as well as no train in the principality itself), the choice was clear: into TLS and out of BCN or the other way around. But it wasn't the other way around.

easyJet flies non-stop to both TLS and BCN from GVA. Clearly, that's no option for an aviation nerd.

Next part: how to make the itinerary interesting.

I knew that the guys at TwinJet (they operate no jets whatsoever, no TwinJets and, sadly, no TriJets either) fly to/from TLS from/to MLH/BSL/EAP (the famous airport with 3 codes). Sold. One (more or less) Swiss airport added to the list, a new airline and a new aircraft, the Beech 1900D. What could be better?

Next part: Skywork, that's what.

IMO one of the most interesting operations in Europe, with their BRN hub. A quick and painless, and rather expensive, transaction for a one-way ticket BCN-BRN on the very cute Dornier 328... with some of the best lines in the sky.

OK, the itinerary was set in stone now.

T7 7716, Friday evening, MLH-TLS, B1900D
SX 102, Sunday afternoon, BCN-BRN, Do-328

More details about that later.

To get to Basel and from Bern, I chose the train (obviously). While trains in Switzerland are known to be priced accordingly, living in Switzerland for a decent amount of time allowed me to acquire a Half Fare Card, as well as a Voie 7 card (free train travel after 19:00 for under-26). I thus only paid around 38 francs for the 2 train journeys thanks to this discount. (Half-Fare Card for a year: 175CHF, Voie 7: 129CHF—the former is a better value).

Next part: Basel

You may not have heard that Basel is a splendid city. Starting with a nice city hall, and ending with a terrific view of the Rhine river. It's much nicer to visit than Geneva, which is more French than Basel.

So, what's in Basel? Well, pretty and picturesque buildings and streets and a huge river in which everyone and their mother was swimming leisurely, not minding the high speed of the water.

A well-known open-source travel guide states the following: “One of Switzerland's underrated tourist destinations, Basel has a beautiful medieval old town center.” Indeed it does. Some pictures are attached below.

Basler Muenster, aka the Basel Cathedral, and the Rathaus are two terrific reddish buildings, pictured below... The Pfalz (Plaza), just North of the Cathedral, provides nice views of the Rhine.

I've also visited the Botanical Gardens, which enabled me to escape the sweltering heat—it was much too hot for Switzerland, even in July.

Furthermore, I just walked around to take some nice pictures of this terrific looking city center.

Basel view:


Basel street:


Post Palace:


Stylish buildings:


City Hall:


Bridge over the River Rhine:


And the Swiss flag:


Another Church:


The Rhine:


Basel Cloister:


Courtyard from the above:


Basel street again:


Botanical Gardens:


Nice house:


Central Basel:


The Hauptbahnhof:


Excuse any misspellings, while my family tried to make me learn German when I was five, and a few things sticked, I was much too energetic to fully learn a language at that time. At least I can count in German!

To go to the airport, the clear solution was the bus, advertised as taking 19 minutes from the Hauptbahnhof to the EuroAirport. Well, for some reason this bus was rather crowded at this time of day, but delivered me to the airport safe and sound.

Then, I took a few pictures of the check-in halls, before proceeding to the Air France check-in desk (they take care of TwinJet flights, it seems), when I was delivered the terrible news that I already knew: there were no toilets aboard T7's Beech 1900D aircraft. I was checked-in, and assigned seat 07C, on the right hand side window of this not-too-pretty bird.

Afterwards, I took advantage of the outside terrace to spot a few planes—nothing much on the French side, but a few interesting things on the Swiss side.

Airport, view 1:


French Part:


Still Landside:


AF-livery ATR 72:


KLM F70:


Special livery RJ100:


DHL with BA take-off in the background:


Not too much later, I proceeded to security and through to my living room. Well, what I mean is, that's there's not much space in the French sector. Some passengers were awaiting the departure of the delayed ATR72 to Orly. Otherwise, not much action. Once the ATR boarded, just a few people for TwinJet's flights to Marseille (?) and Toulouse were left in the departure lounge.

French sector:


The delayed flight to ORY boarding:


Not too much later, it was our time to board, and a bus took us to our assigned Beech, F-GLNH.

Flight: TwinJet T7 7716
Aircraft: Beech 1900D, F-GLNH
Date: 24JUL2013
Seat: Right Window, 07C
Scheduled Times: 19:35-21:20
Departed: Runway 15
Arrived: Runway 14R

Twinjet, Beech:


Upon boarding I decided to do the usual aircraft picture routine—no troubles whatsoever at MLH, well done. As there were only 7 of us, the boarding didn't take long. Soon, the props were started, and the aircraft began swaying from side to side a little bit. After, a 10-minute delay was announced by the flight deck occupants (with the door open, mind you). At one point, our plane sprang to life and headed northwest to runway 15. Well done, plane, well done.

Proppity-prop:


Nice wing view:


Aisle and window for everyone—no toilet though:


The seats were nice and comfortable, with leather (or faux leather) on top. The aircraft looked not very modern, but that's a plus. Nothing more boring than modern looking and sterile feeling A320s and 777s  

I like these little Beeches. With only 7 pax on board, it took off reasonably quickly towards the Southeast, and turned South and then Southwest towards TLS. Some time later the flight deck door was closed.

The temperature alternated between very cold and rather hot. Terrific views of clouds and of the sunset. Snacks and drinks were also served by the flight attendant.

Ready?


Seatback:


Take-off:


Safety card:


TwinJet has started to do some real international flying from MXP! The flights to MLH and GVA can hardly be called that, after all, both airports have a French sector (speaking of which, I prefer the French sector at GVA to the Swiss one).

Information about TwinJet:


Legroom:


Cockpit view:


Right, so, the food: not very fascinating, but a nice touch. The sandwich wasn't at all bad.

In-flight meal: Cheese Sandwich:


Dusk was approaching, and so were we. Not much longer till Toulouse now! I managed to grab a few minutes of sleep, which would come back to haunt me later.

Towards nightfall:


Before I knew it, I saw the runways at TLS through the open door. We were lining up with 14R, feeling some turbulence on the way. Of course, this is Airbus' main plant (at least for long-haul aircraft and the aforementioned A320)... however, I couldn't get any good pictures of planes just sitting on the ground on Airbus' side of the airport.

Approach to TLS:


TLS arrivals area:


Upon arrival at TLS, I proceeded to the bus stop, saw nobody there, asked someone in the terminal where to get tickets, returned to the bus stop, bought tickets from the driver when he arrived and climbed aboard. 5 Euros for a trip to the center of Toulouse (in my case, until the Gare Matabiau, right across the street from my hotel—the Ibis Gare Matabiau).

Toulouse Blagnac:


I got to the hotel and started (trying) to relax. Alas, I was unable to sleep until 3, so any plans of walking around the Ville Rose in the morning had to be put off. Around 10:30 I had a shuttle to Andorra to catch.

Ibis Gare Matabiau room:


Area around the Gare:


The Station itself:


The bus ride to Andorra would take 3h30', with a stop at TLS. In any situation, the bus wasn't at all full, just 5 seats taken out of 19 or so available. That's a long bus ride, though with nice views of more or less rural Southern France and, later, the Pyrenees.

Once we passed into Andorra, we entered a huge tunnel. On the other side, I discovered... well, nothing interesting aside from the landscape. Resort-town after resort-town with nothing special. Upon arrival into Andorra la Vella, it looked like more of the same—well, almost. A huge mall masquerading as a city. Not my style, not at all. Not many tourist attractions, and even those closed or under a guided tour... Eh. The place was pleasant enough. But not interesting. Coupled with 7 hours on buses to get there and out, I don't imagine I'll be back anytime soon... Sorry.

Close to Andorra:


Landscapes (sorry about the blue-tinted windows):


More of the same:


La vache qui... dort:


The pictures of Andorra show the most interesting things in the city, which are undoubtedly the two pedestrian paths on the side of the mountains surrounding Andorra la Vella. It's not ugly, and it's clean. Too clean. Sterile. Hm.

Andorra la Vella, right outside my hotel:


Main street, ALV:


Southern Mountains:


Cold-running River:


Plaza:


Romanesque style:


More church:


Inside a museum:


From the northern slope:


From the Southern slope:


A thoroughly un-fascinating destination. That's a shame. But it has been crossed off my list... as my least favorite mini-state so far. Don't expect much of Liechtenstein either, but we'll see. At least hopefully it's too expensive to be a country-wide mall 

San Marino is vastly superior to Andorra in my experience. If you can't make up your mind between the two, trust me on this  

Next morning at 08:00 I had to be at the bus station for the ride down to Barcelona Airport T2.

All good, and on time, we left to Barcelona via side roads, and I could see some rather unattractive Spanish/Catalan towns on the way. Yeah, looks like a crisis alright.

Back in Barcelona:


Back into a terminal which I remember for starting the only journey when I missed 2 flights one after the other. Not my favorite. But, the destination board indicates Islas Feroe... Nice for spotting. Islas Feroe and Malta are also more interesting than Andorra...

Airport:


T2 (the older terminal):

Nicely done here at BCN. T2 looks good, and so does T1.

Towards security control:


One of the triangular gate areas at T2:


Some spotting to be done at BCN—lots of interesting visitors milling about at this time of day!

Kuwaiti visitor:


Israeli visitor:


Titan 757:


EK long-ass plane:


Queue for a FR flight to Western Spain:


Hey there:


When the time for boarding was nearing I headed down to gate 38B, a bus gate, of course.

On time, we started boarding and entered the bus, to wait for more passengers. In the end, a good load, roughly 26-28 pax today on the way to Bern.

Flight: SkyWork SX102
Aircraft: Dornier 328, HB-AEO
Date: 26JUL2013
Seat: Left Emergency Exit Window, 09A
Scheduled Times: 14:45-16:15
Departed: Runway 25L
Arrived: Runway 32

Tu-154:


Well, there she was, shining in the early morning... er, afternoon... Sun.

SkyWork 328... what a beautiful plane:


HB-AEO:


Engine view:


Not today, just Leisure:


I boarded and discovered that the seat, 09A, assigned to me at check-in was in fact the emergency exit row—ah, nice, so much legroom (not that I need it). Speaking of check-in, it went quickly and I was the 3rd person in line, but the first to check-in by myself (a couple in front of me)--that's how I got the emergency exit seat.

Soon, the F/A comes back to my seat and starts speaking in German... I tell her I don't speak German so she switches to English and demonstrates how to open the emergency exit.

A few minutes later, while taxiing, the plastic cover of the emergency exit handle falls off on me and to the ground. The couple across the aisle have a little laugh. I put it back on and this time it stays there.

Infinite Legroom seat:


Getting Ready:


We take off towards the West and a few minutes later begin to turn towards the south-east, then towards the north-east.

Service on this flight consists of a quiche and something to drink. I just get water.

Cabin View:


Details:


Dornier safety card:


Why, thank you!


More cabin:


Water and quiche:


Afterwards, I pay the lavatory a little visit—well appointed and with running water, well done. When I step out, the F/A asks me whether I wanted something from the duty-free. Then I ask her if the Do-328 model in the magazine is available. Unfortunately not. Damn, alright. I head back to my seat.

As you can roughly imagine, our flight path was roughly above the sea to Marseille, then north towards Bern.

Above S France:


Lavatory—smallest aircraft with water for the sink:


This gave us a nice view over the Alps... with nice views, at least for a while.

Transalpine flights are cool:


How Blue:


Alps:


On descent, we entered some clouds, followed by 3 minutes of the most intense-feeling turbulence I've experienced so far. Not a comforting feeling knowing there are mountains on all sides, but the turbulence itself was fun. The weather was rather poor, with on-and-off rain, but better than 30C in Basel the Friday before, that's for sure.

Clouds further ahead:


Bernese approach:


II:


III:


We landed at Bern-Belp rather on-time. It proceeded to start raining as I was waiting for the 16:30 bus to Belp station. A few minutes later we arrived, and I proceeded on to Bern via the suburban train. You can buy the ticket on the bus, BTW.

Willkommen nach Bern:


Helvetic:


Just Dashing, even if not a Dash:


Someone took the p:


“I do”:


Bernese decoration:


Small BRN airport:


Bern is a terrifically scenic city and one that more people should see. There's not too much there, I'll give you that, but the buildings and scenery are very nice and worth a look or two!

Below are some of the Bernese attractions, including the Bundeshaus, the typical houses with arcades, the Zytglogge, the fountains, the Cathedral, and a nice bridge over the river Aare.

In Bern:


After rain:


Nice Germanic houses:


Zytglogge:


Detail:


Main Street:


Fountains:


Statues:


Activity:


Local houses:


Terrific green:


Street:


River:


Cathedral et al.:


Nice courtyard:


Splendid city:


Churchy type building:


Some waterfalls:


Bern views, with Parliament Building (I think):


Curia CH:


Contre-jour, sorry:


City Square:


Then, at roughly 19:00, I took the train back to Geneva (1h 45 minutes) and headed home. Wonderful journey overall.

Conclusions:

Twinjet: Nice airline, would recommend. They're quite expensive but a nice way to experience a comfortable B1900D
Skywork: Even more so, would thoroughly recommend. Also expensive—but they've convinced me enough to buy a ticket to TXL for early October (coming up!). Terrific plane, the Dornier, comfortable and fast, almost like a small jet. The nicest looking prop in the sky.

Beech 1900D: nice to try, solid little aircraft.
Dornier 328: just terrific, now I wanna see if I can ever get on its faster brother, the 328JET.

Bern and Basel are 2 underrated cities IMO. Worth a visit for whoever's interested in Germanic architecture. Bern doesn't really feel like a capital, seemed more like a provincial town to me, but I was there on a Sunday, when nothing ever happens in Switzerland 

Andorra (la Vella): eh, not so much. Not in a hurry to return. Just not my style. It's definitely not “old world Europe”. Mountains are fine, but not enough of a reason to go there.

Thanks for reading and hope you've enjoyed! Comments always appreciated!

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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6702 times:
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Hi Alex!

Great report you made here with many nice pictures!
Twinjet en SkyWork both look very nice, must try them out soon.
Basel and Bern both look beautiful and shame Andorra didn't impress you all too much. The pictures are nice though  

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26506 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6687 times:

Hey Alex  

Nice report and lovely to see Basel. Its a lovely place to spend a few days. Also never knew Bern was so nice. I have people there I know and been invited a few times. Must take that trip!

Andorra pretty much as I remember it. I did a day trip once from Barcelona. Was a duty free shopping trip and pretty much all was there. Still popular with the Ski crowds in Winter though.

Nice to get something different from the A320s as you say.

Some lovely aerial photos too.

Thanks for the report.

Regards

Philip  



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User currently onlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1067 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6595 times:

As a kid my father drove right past both Andorra and San Marino without bothering to visit these places. Glad he avoided Andorra.

As to Bern and Basel I find both cities "depressing." And that includes Geneva, but at least the lake is somewhat pretty.

The only Swiss city I like is Zurich and some of the small towns like Apenzell and resorts like Flims.

[Edited 2013-09-29 08:07:33]

User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 677 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6546 times:

Hi Alex,

excellent little report here, really enjoyed it. Good idea to combine these two interesting small niche airlines on one trip with two quite rare plane types. For sure a good experience to fly on the Beech and on the Dornier. And service-wise they seem to be nice as well. I have yet to try both of them, but they are very high on my list.

And I fully agree with you on Basel, having just visited the city a few weeks ago. I was also pleasantly surprised, with the old city center and especially the river front along the Rhine.
And about Andorra, well, have to agree with you as well, I guess the main attraction is the scenery, the town itself doesn't have much to offer, at least if you are not into shopping.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6515 times:

Nice report Alex!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Why Andorra? Why not. It's a country, and I told myself I should see all the countries (and self-governing territories) in Europe; Andorra was one of the few remaining Western European countries left on this list.

Andorra is one of the few European countries left on my list, along with Bulgaria, Belarus & Kosovo.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):

T7 7716, Friday evening, MLH-TLS, B1900D
SX 102, Sunday afternoon, BCN-BRN, Do-328

Nice choices!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The pictures of Andorra show the most interesting things in the city, which are undoubtedly the two pedestrian paths on the side of the mountains surrounding Andorra la Vella. It's not ugly, and it's clean. Too clean. Sterile. Hm.

Shame to hear that.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Don't expect much of Liechtenstein either, but we'll see.

I thought Liechtenstein was quite nice, although I wasn't there for too long

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
San Marino is vastly superior to Andorra in my experience. If you can't make up your mind between the two, trust me on this

Yes, San Marino is very nice, and better than Liechtenstein!



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User currently offlineokapi From France, joined Jun 2006, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6452 times:

Hello! Nice report about two "different" airlines. The Beech is definitely on my wish list not to mention the Dornier. I also love the feeling of turbulence in a prop!
Your report is one of the most scenic ones I've read lately. Switzerland is absolutely wonderful (if you love mountains). A pity about lack of great things to see in Andorra, although I think it is the same with most tiny countries such as Monaco.
Maybe Abrelosojos could comment on Lichtenstein...
I look forward to read your next report.
Cheers!

[Edited 2013-09-29 09:07:55]

User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6452 times:

Hey Alex. I must admit that when I first read the title of your report I started doubting how much I know about Andorra and its lack of airport(s). I was like, how can anyone "prop to Andorra"? Is there an airfield that I don't know about? Albeit somewhat disappointed I was glad (for my own sanity) to find out that you did not actually fly to Andorra  . I know that you Romanians are the masters of deceit so you'd be glad to know that you got me this time.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The Rhine:

Beautiful pictures of Basel. This particular one made me believe it was shot somewhere in the Med (because of that pine tree in the foreground).

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Once we passed into Andorra, we entered a huge tunnel. On the other side, I discovered... well, nothing interesting aside from the landscape. Resort-town after resort-town with nothing special. Upon arrival into Andorra la Vella, it looked like more of the same—well, almost. A huge mall masquerading as a city. Not my style, not at all. Not many tourist attractions, and even those closed or under a guided tour... Eh. The place was pleasant enough. But not interesting. Coupled with 7 hours on buses to get there and out, I don't imagine I'll be back anytime soon... Sorry.

Yeah, that's what I've heard about Andorra too. Very similar to Liechtenstein in many ways (without having been to either). I wonder how the small villages outside of ALV are. Perhaps they are more traditional and thus more "atmospheric"? If I ever get the chance to visit Andorra I'll try to rent a car and drive to these smaller towns/villages.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Too clean. Sterile. Hm.

No place is ever too clean in my opinion  . I've seen enough dirt/trash in my time that I never miss it when it's not there.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, while taxiing, the plastic cover of the emergency exit handle falls off on me and to the ground. The couple across the aisle have a little laugh. I put it back on and this time it stays there.

Haha, that must have been a first for you. Good to know that your neighbors found it to be amusing. I know people that would have totally freaked out.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Lavatory—smallest aircraft with water for the sink:

It looks really good. Nice and clean.

Thanks for all the destination photos on this one, Alex. I love reading about places like these. I hope the rest of your recent trips were as exciting.

Many Thanks,

Stojan



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2758 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6416 times:

I was curious about these two little airlines. Twinjet - most misleading airline name ever!

And to see if there was anything interesting up north in Andorra...thanks ya just saved me a trip  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Aisle and window for everyone—no toilet though:

I'd die.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
In-flight meal: Cheese Sandwich:

Very good for this little airline!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The pictures of Andorra show the most interesting things in the city, which are undoubtedly the two pedestrian paths on the side of the mountains surrounding Andorra la Vella. It's not ugly, and it's clean. Too clean. Sterile. Hm.

Yep. Bleh. Some people from here in GRO make the trip, exalting the duty free blah blah but to me that's hella boring. Like a SIN in the Pyrenees, all clean & shopping centres.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
But, the destination board indicates Islas Feroe... Nice for spotting. Islas Feroe and Malta are also more interesting than Andorra...

I HAVE to go to the Faroes...I blame you :p

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Tu-154:

Aw  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, while taxiing, the plastic cover of the emergency exit handle falls off on me and to the ground. The couple across the aisle have a little laugh. I put it back on and this time it stays there.

Ha! It happens on some of our 738s. I blame the pax as they look really scared & tell them that's a €50 charge (joking of course, I placate them after)

The Dornier is a little cutie alright, as for it's jet powered sister, you could try Sun Air for BA, or less unfortunate break your leg as there is an air ambulance company that uses them.

Cool report, cheers

Aoife



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User currently offlineA333MSPtoAMS From United States of America, joined Sep 2013, 78 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6150 times:

Hi Alex-

Great trip report.. Really enjoyed it and the photos are great.

I think in regards to Andorra, that it is best to visit this little country during the winter where there is some really nice skiing (if you're into that sort of thing, me on the other hand, can barely ride a bike let alone ski down the side of a mountain -- nope not going to happen).. I think you will find that Liechtenstein is a much better choice, though small and not much along the lines of attractions -- though it has more "older" history.

Can't wait for the next report.

Ciao-
Daniël



Plane Types Flown: A306, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, ATR42, B732, B733, B734, B735, B737, B738, B739, B742, B744
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

Wow, 8 comments already in just a few hours--thanks, guys!

Brendan,

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 1):
Hi Alex!

Great report you made here with many nice pictures!
Twinjet en SkyWork both look very nice, must try them out soon.
Basel and Bern both look beautiful and shame Andorra didn't impress you all too much. The pictures are nice though  

Thanks for your comments!

Yes, both airlines are very good. Then again, it's hard to go wrong with such a personalized experience! I expect something similar from Eastern Airways of Great Britain...

BTW, I will be passing by AMS a few times in the next few months... I'm not sure how much time I have each time but if our schedules match up, it would be nice to meet up on your home turf!

Regarding Andorra, well, you can't win them all. I usually enjoy new countries but ALV was rather disappointing as a capital.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Hey Alex  

Hey Philip, thanks for stopping by!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Nice report and lovely to see Basel. Its a lovely place to spend a few days. Also never knew Bern was so nice. I have people there I know and been invited a few times. Must take that trip!

I only had a few hours in Bern but I enjoyed it. I understand there are also museums further afoot. Also, the Einstein House (gotta go next time I'm there).

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Andorra pretty much as I remember it. I did a day trip once from Barcelona. Was a duty free shopping trip and pretty much all was there. Still popular with the Ski crowds in Winter though.

Yeah, have to agree completely. I don't know how it is for skiing but chances are I'd be pretty bored anyway! LOL.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Nice to get something different from the A320s as you say.

Some lovely aerial photos too.

Thanks very much, Philip   You know, A320s are nice too, but maybe the least nice... The next report will feature a more special A320 though  
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 3):

As a kid my father drove right past both Andorra and San Marino without bothering to visit these places. Glad he avoided Andorra.

San Marino is much nicer than Andorra... Also, much closer to other interesting things!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 3):
As to Bern and Basel I find both cities "depressing." And that includes Geneva, but at least the lake is somewhat pretty.

But Geneve is more depressing IMO! Nice city to live, less so to visit...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 4):
Hi Alex,

excellent little report here, really enjoyed it. Good idea to combine these two interesting small niche airlines on one trip with two quite rare plane types. For sure a good experience to fly on the Beech and on the Dornier. And service-wise they seem to be nice as well. I have yet to try both of them, but they are very high on my list.

Hi CaptainRed,

Thanks very much!

Yes, it seems like a match made in heaven regarding aircraft types and airlines. They fit well, one going away, the other coming back. I enjoyed both... a slight edge in favor of SkyWork, of course.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 4):
And I fully agree with you on Basel, having just visited the city a few weeks ago. I was also pleasantly surprised, with the old city center and especially the river front along the Rhine.
And about Andorra, well, have to agree with you as well, I guess the main attraction is the scenery, the town itself doesn't have much to offer, at least if you are not into shopping.

Yeah, Basel is better than advertised, I suppose. I never knew it was so nice until I got there! Regarding Andorra, well, let's just say that I really don't like shopping  

Thanks for your comments, CaptainRed!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Nice report Alex!

Thanks, Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Andorra is one of the few European countries left on my list, along with Bulgaria, Belarus & Kosovo.

You're far ahead of me. But I hope to have at most 3 on my list come August 2014...

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Nice choices!

Thanks!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Shame to hear that.

Well, you can't win them all!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
I thought Liechtenstein was quite nice, although I wasn't there for too long

Interesting. I plan to explore Vaduz and sleep in Triesenberg, but will wait for nicer weather.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Yes, San Marino is very nice, and better than Liechtenstein!

I went by car through Liechtenstein once but I don't count that... Didn't seem all that interesting and smelled of cows 
Quoting okapi (Reply 6):
Hello! Nice report about two "different" airlines. The Beech is definitely on my wish list not to mention the Dornier. I also love the feeling of turbulence in a prop!

Thanks okapi,

Some nice airplanes, too bad flying the Dornier 328 is so rare--it's one of those aircraft which even if they were common I'd like to fly on almost every time, really enjoyed it. I prefer my turbulence far from mountains, although I do enjoy the feeling  
Quoting okapi (Reply 6):
Your report is one of the most scenic ones I've read lately. Switzerland is absolutely wonderful (if you love mountains). A pity about lack of great things to see in Andorra, although I think it is the same with most tiny countries such as Monaco.

Suisse is great to live in, though I haven't explored the mountains yet. Plan to go to Zermatt in January... Maybe somewhere else, not sure yet.

Speaking of Monaco, guess where my next report takes me! Also Cannes (and a fireworks show) and Nice. I liked Monaco much more; more than I expected!

Quoting okapi (Reply 6):
Maybe Abrelosojos could comment on Lichtenstein...
I look forward to read your next report.

Ah yes... I hope he's doing well, haven't seen in a report in a while, but we all know he's a busy man  

Thanks, okapi!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Hey Alex. I must admit that when I first read the title of your report I started doubting how much I know about Andorra and its lack of airport(s).

Hey Stojan, it seems to me you know quite a lot!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
I was like

Uh-oh. Dude, I took you for a man of eloquence  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Is there an airfield that I don't know about?

Do you know about Seu d'Urgell (or something like that)?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Albeit somewhat disappointed I was glad (for my own sanity) to find out that you did not actually fly to Andorra

Well, I'd've liked to have my own helicopter and do that. Alas, science doesn't pay that much 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
I know that you Romanians are the masters of deceit so you'd be glad to know that you got me this time

Well, well, that's a bit...er... country-ist! So, how's Bulgaria, any more assassination attempts lately? LOL  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Beautiful pictures of Basel. This particular one made me believe it was shot somewhere in the Med (because of that pine tree in the foreground).

Well I was planning to take the tree with me to Barcelona but it wouldn't fit in the Beech  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Yeah, that's what I've heard about Andorra too.

I didn't really read up on Andorra beforehand. All I knew is that it appears to have good death metal bands. Now I know why--rebelling against consumerism.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Very similar to Liechtenstein in many ways (without having been to either).
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
I wonder how the small villages outside of ALV are. Perhaps they are more traditional and thus more "atmospheric"?

Ah, you mean the hotels alongside the road outside the capital... I haven't seen a real village in Andorra... Unlike in Liechtenstein (small towns, villages, whatever, I don't think Western Europe has villages anyway, not in our Balkan sense of the word).

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
If I ever get the chance to visit Andorra I'll try to rent a car and drive to these smaller towns/villages.

Eh, you wanna drive?  There are buses, you know  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
No place is ever too clean in my opinion  . I've seen enough dirt/trash in my time that I never miss it when it's not there.

This was too clean, although I generally tend to agree with you about that and rate cleaner places higher.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Haha, that must have been a first for you. Good to know that your neighbors found it to be amusing. I know people that would have totally freaked out.

Yup   I just collected it from the floor, looked at it for a while and put it back.... Ah, shit, I just realized--I should've taken a picture! No problems whatsoever 
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Thanks for all the destination photos on this one, Alex. I love reading about places like these. I hope the rest of your recent trips were as exciting.

You'll see soon enough. M left for Chicago today so I stayed indoors writing the TR and watching football (soccer). I have Monaco by Swissair, Darwin/CSA to Prague coming up... Also Sweden. 3... my usual backlog, LOL.

Thanks for your comments, Stojan!

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
I was curious about these two little airlines. Twinjet - most misleading airline name ever!

And to see if there was anything interesting up north in Andorra...thanks ya just saved me a trip  

Ah, thanks for your comments aerdingus!

Yeah, no twin jets in sight. Andorra... I know people who'd like it there. Not me, though!

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
I'd die.
Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
Yep. Bleh. Some people from here in GRO make the trip, exalting the duty free blah blah but to me that's hella boring. Like a SIN in the Pyrenees, all clean & shopping centres.

Note to self, when visiting SIN, don't plan a long stay  
Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
I HAVE to go to the Faroes...I blame you :p

Well, feel free to blame me--I still recommend it, though! 
Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
Aw  

What's wrong with Tu-154s? I've not tried on but I wouldn't mind. I didn't know they were still allowed in the EU.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
Ha! It happens on some of our 738s. I blame the pax as they look really scared & tell them that's a €50 charge (joking of course, I placate them after)

Hmm... Ryanair? If so, they'd likely believe you  
Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):

The Dornier is a little cutie alright, as for it's jet powered sister, you could try Sun Air for BA, or less unfortunate break your leg as there is an air ambulance company that uses them.

Yeah, Sun Air (Danemark) is the airline to try, too bad it's so bloody expensive. But where there's a will there's a way, I hear   I'd rather not need an airlift, hehe.

Thanks for your comments, Aoife, much appreciated.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5012 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

Hi, A.,

now that´s for sure a great idea to collect Andorra, not that much seen before, by these two special airlines.
With a couple of reports to go I will show you the restroom on a Beech1900D!.
As far as I like the B1900 I prefer the D328.
Thanx for the well done story and pictures at all.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently onlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1067 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Geneva a nice city to live?

Mmmm I have lived there and ..............


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

Hi Alex

Thank you for another great trip report.

Basel and Bern both look splendid, which surprises me (not sure why?!). The architecture in both is really attractive, and they both look like nice places to spend some time. Bizarrely, I've always felt a strange affinity to Bern as I live in another small and under-appreciated capital city!

It's a shame about Andorra. I haven't heard great things about it in the past, and - as you say - it's a long way to go for nothing! The picture of the Pyrenees are stunning though (including the cow)

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
there were no toilets aboard T7's Beech 1900D aircraft.

It's good of them to tell you, they didn't when I flew FQ. I knew that there weren't any on the Metro, but some people could have been caught off-guard

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Information about TwinJet

Other than for us ANutters I'm not sure that being the only operated of the Beech in Europe is something that you want to go shouting off the rooftops 

They look like a nice little carrier though. I'm impressed that they have an FA on a 19 seater aircraft.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Cockpit view

Jealous! That's something I couldn't do on the Metro without a real camera  
Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
A few minutes later, while taxiing, the plastic cover of the emergency exit handle falls off on me and to the ground. The couple across the aisle have a little laugh. I put it back on and this time it stays there

Ugh, a couple of weeks ago I spent the entire flight having an argument with a particularly disagreeable specimen.

Skywork also look excellent. It was great to be able to get two obscure airlines and rare aircraft in one report!

Cheers,
Alex



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5410 times:

Quoting A333MSPtoAMS (Reply 9):
Hi Alex-

Great trip report.. Really enjoyed it and the photos are great.

Hi Daniel,

Thanks very much for commenting!

Quoting A333MSPtoAMS (Reply 9):
I think in regards to Andorra, that it is best to visit this little country during the winter where there is some really nice skiing (if you're into that sort of thing, me on the other hand, can barely ride a bike let alone ski down the side of a mountain -- nope not going to happen).. I think you will find that Liechtenstein is a much better choice, though small and not much along the lines of attractions -- though it has more "older" history.

Yeah, I think you're right, most people go for shopping and/or skiing. Of the two I certainly prefer the latter. However, I think I'd get bored of Andorra even if the main purpose would be skiing...  
Quoting A333MSPtoAMS (Reply 9):
Can't wait for the next report.

Thanks, hope to deliver soon.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
Hi, A.,

now that´s for sure a great idea to collect Andorra, not that much seen before, by these two special airlines.

Hi Markus,

Thanks very much! I'm glad you enjoyed!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):

With a couple of reports to go I will show you the restroom on a Beech1900D!.
As far as I like the B1900 I prefer the D328.
Thanx for the well done story and pictures at all.

As far as I know it's optional... But looking forward to seeing a Beech restroom, anyway  

Thanks again for commenting!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 12):
Geneva a nice city to live?

Mmmm I have lived there and ..............

I'm living here and... I like it. Don't know in which city you live but, looking at your flag, I doubt it's better than Geneva   I've lived in Chicago, and while not bad, I prefer Geneva. Mainly because you don't need a car as much.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Hi Alex

Thank you for another great trip report.

Hey Alex, thanks for your comments!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):

Basel and Bern both look splendid, which surprises me (not sure why?!). The architecture in both is really attractive, and they both look like nice places to spend some time. Bizarrely, I've always felt a strange affinity to Bern as I live in another small and under-appreciated capital city!

Maybe because Switzerland is supposed to be a "boring" place?  I'm surprised that they don't have a better reputation, though. Haha, I guess Bern is the Canberra of Europe  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
It's a shame about Andorra. I haven't heard great things about it in the past, and - as you say - it's a long way to go for nothing! The picture of the Pyrenees are stunning though (including the cow)

I hadn't heard bad things about Andorra... I was somewhat disappointed; one of the few places I found has virtually no redeeming features! Because if I want mountains I can reach them much faster than via a 1.5hr flight + 3 hour bus ride.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
It's good of them to tell you, they didn't when I flew FQ. I knew that there weren't any on the Metro, but some people could have been caught off-guard

Hm... Well, at least they should inform people upon boarding. It might get a bit uncomfortable otherwise...

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Other than for us ANutters I'm not sure that being the only operated of the Beech in Europe is something that you want to go shouting off the rooftops 

They look like a nice little carrier though. I'm impressed that they have an FA on a 19 seater aircraft.

I think they're saying they're the largest operator, not the only one (Chalair Aviation comes to mind).

Yeah they do... also, they've just 18 passenger seats on TwinJet.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):

Skywork also look excellent. It was great to be able to get two obscure airlines and rare aircraft in one report!

Yes, I really like them. Thanks... I try my best, haha.

Thanks again, everyone!


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5108 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Maybe because Switzerland is supposed to be a "boring" place?

Unfortunately I think that's it. Other than chocolate box Alpine villages, I've never heard anything particularly glowing about urban Switzerland.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
if I want mountains I can reach them much faster

Good point, so I can definitely see why there is nothing for you there!

Good look getting the other countries  
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
I think they're saying they're the largest operator, not the only one

I will default to your better judgment, but it isn't it actually saying the first operator, which from what I can gather is historically accurate. That's what I had intended to write, I'm not sure where "only" came from. Nonetheless, I apologise for my dubious level of French!

Thanks again,
Alex

[Edited 2013-10-01 03:17:44]


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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 15):
Unfortunately I think that's it. Other than chocolate box Alpine villages, I've never heard anything particularly glowing about urban Switzerland.

Neither have I... but it's not that bad; I'm not sure what people want... I mean, there are some things I dislike but the standard of living is high, the quality of... well, anything... good. Good public transportation too.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 15):
Good point, so I can definitely see why there is nothing for you there!

Good look getting the other countries  

Thanks   All of "western" Europe (whatever that might mean) will be done by the end of March, if nothing goes wrong.

Then I'll have to do the Balkans plus Turkey and some ex-USSR states.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 15):
I will default to your better judgment, but it isn't it actually saying the first operator, which from what I can gather is historically accurate. That's what I had intended to write, I'm not sure where "only" came from. Nonetheless, I apologise for my dubious level of French!

Literally you're quite right (premier=first). As you said, though, that doesn't make much sense... Why brag about that? I think the meaning behind it is "largest operator"... but I could be wrong. Also seems to make sense since they're (roughly) the ninth largest operator in the world  


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4778 times:
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Hello Mr dc9northwest,

Excellent report Alex, nice choice of airlines and airports!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
easyJet flies non-stop to both TLS and BCN from GVA. Clearly, that's no option for an aviation nerd.
Hey come on, I just tried to show you how a mundane flight can be cool as well  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
The Hauptbahnhof:

A very distinctive shot and photographed also many times by fellow a.netter knightsofmalta.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Twinjet, Beech

Such a cute little bugger!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Nothing more boring than modern looking and sterile feeling A320s and 777s

I beg to differ on that. Every plane type is cool in it’s own way. We definitely need to have a discussion on a ext a.net meeting  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Towards nightfall

Great shot!

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
as my least favorite mini-state so far.

Lol, this sounds like as if you have visited already buckets full of those  

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
T2 looks good, and so does T1.

T2 is crap in comparison to T1. Did you find the transfer bus easily? You probably have from T2 to T1 but vice versa is a nightmare. I lost track last year on what was another shorty and risky connection from Air Europa in T1 to Ryanair in T2. Needless to say I made it just in time and I never was more glad to have priority boarding 

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
SkyWork 328... what a beautiful plane

Say that again, magnificent bird!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
Excellent report Alex, nice choice of airlines and airports!

Thanks very much Mr. Sulta Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
Hey come on, I just tried to show you how a mundane flight can be cool as well  

It was supposed to be a joke, same as the one below:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
I beg to differ on that. Every plane type is cool in it’s own way. We definitely need to have a discussion on a ext a.net meeting  

I know, I know. I definitely don't mind 777s and A320s, in fact I've just booked a few A320 flights even if I had other options  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
Lol, this sounds like as if you have visited already buckets full of those  

I've visited enough... All except Liechtenstein I believe. And except Aland Islands/Ahvenamaa if you count that  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
T2 is crap in comparison to T1. Did you find the transfer bus easily? You probably have from T2 to T1 but vice versa is a nightmare. I lost track last year on what was another shorty and risky connection from Air Europa in T1 to Ryanair in T2. Needless to say I made it just in time and I never was more glad to have priority boarding 

Ah, didn't need the shuttle bus, saw T1 in 2011. But T2 isn't that bad, just very very empty. Oh, and had vending machines where water or juice cost 3,05 Euros. 05... really???

Quoting sultanils (Reply 17):
Say that again, magnificent bird!

Oh yes, superb design.

Thanks for your comments, Nils!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Hello Alex, great report! Twinjet seems to be popular amongst us Anetters lately. For sure a nice niche carrier in France. Skywork is also interesting carrier, although they have become quite expensive over the past years. Great views of Andorra as well, a destination we don't see all that often.

I agree with you and Basel and Bern, two lovely cities indeed. I actually visited both cities when flying Twinjet and Skywork as well.

Thanks for sharing!


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4596 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10):
BTW, I will be passing by AMS a few times in the next few months... I'm not sure how much time I have each time but if our schedules match up, it would be nice to meet up on your home turf!

Sounds good! Just send me a message on Facebook  
I guess I'll see you next week @ the ZRH meet?

cheers,

Brendan


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Hey A.


Another great review from Andorra! Reminds me of my time down there in 2011 (stayed in MPL).
Good choice of carriers as well
Looking forward too meet you next week

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2650 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Hello Mr Diesel-Niner hehehe.

Thanks for sharing this interesting report, on two somewhat lesser known carriers (one more than the other) and TwinJet lol... now there´s a case of misleading information... but the little bee(t)ch looks quite smart  

As for Andorra, haven´t been yet but yeah I heard is not that special. But it certainly cannot even remotely be compared to Singapore I tell ya.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10):
Note to self, when visiting SIN, don't plan a long stay

Nope, 4 days at least, there´s quite a lot of stuff to do and see (and eat) you will be surprised.

Nice pics of Basel too, I went there in 2010 for a quick weekend, nice city, funny to take the tram to the french border, cross back, and take another tram to the german border for some beer   2 countries in less than 1 hour.

I also visited Bern once... it was boring, headed to Lucerne straight away.

I loved the SkyWorks DO328, I´d love to fly them but sometimes their fares are quite steep... I´ll keep looking tho, did they still offer iPads as IFE?

See ya next Sat at the ZRH Meeting 

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3770 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):
Hello Alex, great report! Twinjet seems to be popular amongst us Anetters lately. For sure a nice niche carrier in France. Skywork is also interesting carrier, although they have become quite expensive over the past years. Great views of Andorra as well, a destination we don't see all that often.

Hey Robert, thanks very much for the comments! Yeah, T7 seems to be top choice this year  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):
I agree with you and Basel and Bern, two lovely cities indeed. I actually visited both cities when flying Twinjet and Skywork as well.

Yep, quite nice, right? Nice coincidence (well Bern and Skywork isn't a coincidence )

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Sounds good! Just send me a message on Facebook

Alright, I'll let you know soon--see you at the meet this weekend  
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 21):
Another great review from Andorra! Reminds me of my time down there in 2011 (stayed in MPL).
Good choice of carriers as well
Looking forward too meet you next week

Thanks very much, Marc--looking forward to meeting you too  
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 22):

Hello Mr Diesel-Niner hehehe.

Thanks for sharing this interesting report, on two somewhat lesser known carriers (one more than the other) and TwinJet lol... now there´s a case of misleading information... but the little bee(t)ch looks quite smart  

As for Andorra, haven´t been yet but yeah I heard is not that special. But it certainly cannot even remotely be compared to Singapore I tell ya.

Hi Mr. MIAspotter,

Thanks for commenting!

Yeah, these two airlines are pretty cool  

Well, I'm not a fan of countries that execute people for drug offenses, so Singapore isn't high on my list  
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 22):
Nice pics of Basel too, I went there in 2010 for a quick weekend, nice city, funny to take the tram to the french border, cross back, and take another tram to the german border for some beer   2 countries in less than 1 hour.

I also visited Bern once... it was boring, headed to Lucerne straight away.

I loved the SkyWorks DO328, I´d love to fly them but sometimes their fares are quite steep... I´ll keep looking tho, did they still offer iPads as IFE?

See ya next Sat at the ZRH Meeting 

Thanks very much  

Basel is pretty cool, but I like Bern too! I don't know, doesn't seem all that boring to me for the size...

Yeah, Skywork can be a bit expensive.

See ya then  


User currently offlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

Thanks for the report.

I am surprised you don't mention the noise in the Beech. I have flown that aircraft with TAP and... wow, those are unbelievably noisy... even earplugs were handed.

I would like to fly Skywork and the Dornier (as it is so rare) but surprisingly they do not fly to Paris (where I live now).

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 22):
Nice pics of Basel too, I went there in 2010 for a quick weekend, nice city, funny to take the tram to the french border, cross back, and take another tram to the german border for some beer 2 countries in less than 1 hour.

I also visited Bern once... it was boring, headed to Lucerne straight away.

That was completely my experience... I found Basel somehow interesting... but Bern... I was there for a few hours... as cute and clean as Switzerland can get but so boring... the Paul Klee Museum outside the city is interesting though and worth a visit.


25 Post contains images abrelosojos : Thanks for the report. I am impressed that you got a little sandwich on the CityJet flight. I guess for the fare charged, they could afford to . Great
26 The777Man : Hi Alex ! Very nice report with nice pictures ! Great for you to try two new types and one new country in the same trip! Andorra looks okay and I have
27 Post contains images infodesk : Hi Alex, So, I finally found time to read your report, which I enjoyed very much. Thanks for including so many pictures of Basel and Bern. Basel is my
28 Post contains images dc9northwest : Thanks for reading! I guess it was louder than other types but perhaps I'm used to such a sound level. Can't be very high inside the cabin due to hea
29 PlaneHunter : Hi Alex, nice report with some good pictures. Cool choice of destinations - and I'd like to try Skywork as well. But I'm not keen at all on the Beech.
30 Post contains images dc9northwest : Hi, and thanks, PlaneHunter! I understand. I also prefer the Dornier to the Beech. Not a big fan of planes without toilets... That said, it offers a p
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