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BMI A330 MAN-IAD/UAL 777 IAD-LAX (Part 1)  
User currently offlineMon330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 84 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5490 times:

My summer vacation destination this year was Los Angeles, from where we rented a car and drove to San Diego and then across to Las Vegas, before returning to L.A. for our flight home. I booked the round trip on the internet, with United Airlines/BMI British Midland offering the best price for the chosen date. The two airlines are both members of the Star Alliance network, and BMI is able to offer a good choice of onward connections across America through its partners.

Thursday 8th August, 2002
Airline: BMI British Midland
Flight: BD107 (Manchester, UK to Washington D.C.)
Aircraft: Airbus A330-200 (G-WWBM)

This was my first experience with BMI and so I was eagerly awaiting the flight after hearing so many good comments about the airline. From the moment of check-in I was impressed. While the rest of Manchester Airport queued in long, muddled lines, BMI’s area had a winding queue that was much more organised and tidy. Before we checked in for the flight, we were greeted by staff at the back of the line where we were given the visa forms for immigration and asked all of the necessary security questions. This meant that the actual time spent at the desk was reduced.

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When I reached the departure gate in Terminal 1, G-WWBM was waiting patiently, looking as striking and sparkling as ever. Boarding was prompt and I settled into my seat near the back of the aircraft, 33A, and started to read my complimentary copy of the Daily Express. The cabin environment is excellent, with blue seats and an overall airy, light and spacious feel. I selected the forward camera view via my remote-controlled handset that fastens back onto the armrest when not needed. This facility really comes into its own when playing one of the many Gameboy Color games available for free.

We pushed back at 12.45pm on the dot, testimony to BMI’s high punctuality campaign, and the two Rolls Royce Trent engines were started. Once the flaps were configured, we started to taxi towards runway 24R. It always amazes me how quiet the A330 is while taxiing. We held short of 24R where a Dragonair Cargo 747-200 crept in right beside us, almost clipping our wing. I had an excellent view of The Airport Hotel, a pub that sits right beside the threshold where drinkers in the beer garden get amazingly close views of the aircraft. A few minutes later we taxied on for an immediate take-off. The roll was quick and we rotated just over half way down the 10,000ft runway.

Our flight path took us over Scotland and on towards Greenland, where the skies were completely clear, giving us excellent views of the icy topography. The service on board BMI is second to none in economy, with the cabin crew regularly coming up and down offering free drinks. Even before take-off, everyone was drinking water or orange juice—or champagne in ‘the business’. In addition, the food is excellent. Menus are distributed with a good choice for both dinner and lunch. The trays are massive compared to the usual size, with the pull-down seatback trays sliding forwards and backwards as desired. I had Cumberland sausage which was tasty, while my brother can attest the quality of the vegetable chilli bake.

The flight passed fairly quickly overall, thanks to BMI’s excellent in-flight entertainment system. Our descent into IAD began forty minutes out. The winds were northerly, which meant a 1R arrival. It was fairly bumpy on the descent and on downwind we were holding endlessly at what could have only been an altitude of 3,000ft. However, no flaps were set which meant our attitude was quite high. On right base, the pilot selected flaps, and while turning onto final, gear came down and I spotted a United A320 landing in formation with us on 1L. The views from the camera at this stage are excellent, and it is surprising how much the aircraft deviates from the centre line. The ailerons were moving quite drastically as we were on the approach.

The landing was smooth, however, though a bit to the right, and we taxied past a whole host of United 777s to our gate. Now was time for my connecting flight to LAX.

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Thursday 8th August, 2002
Airline: United Airlines
Flight: UA190 (Washington D.C. to Los Angeles)
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200

This was my first flight on a 777 and I must say I was totally astounded by its size inside. The cabin was clean enough, although the dark colours inside make it look dingy compared to BMI. Once onboard I could relax after rushing hectically onto mobile lounge buses to get to immigration and back. Once the engines were running, we taxied for take-off. This aircraft is also very quiet, even on take-off, which was very impressive.

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The service on board was average, with a choice of main meal for dinner. The flight was smooth and the entertainment good, especially the facility to watch VH1. Our descent from FL390 began just after Las Vegas. The weather was clear skies with the wind out westerly, resulting in a 25L arrival this evening. Touchdown was again smooth, and our time on the runway was astonishingly short. We exited down a high-speed taxiway and in no time at all a FedEx DC-10 rotated to my left. We then crossed 25R and taxied to the gate.

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As a final point, both flights were enjoyable, but the service on board BMI was better, though the United was only domestic. I will post the report of the return flights momentarily.

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User currently offlineN175dz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5377 times:

Hi Mark,

Great report - thanks for writing it. I'm glad you enjoyed your flights. I had my first UA 777 flight last week (ORD-LHR after missing bmi's ORD-MAN due to a storm delay around ATL) and i agree with you about the difference in cabin appearance between the two!

One question - what was the load like on the MAN-IAD segment? (and i suppose on your return flight too!).

cheers, Phil.

User currently offlineMon330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5348 times:


The load on both the IAD and ORD flights was completely full, most probably because of it being August. Both of the connecting flights were full, as well.

How was your international flight with United? Did you like the 777? What do you think to Chicago airport? It took me about 45 minutes to get from the connecting flight to Terminal 5 and the gate for BMI. At Washington, two weeks earlier, I missed my original connection to LAX, but I only had to wait 50 minutes for the next, which was the 777 instead of the A320 which I would have been on.

You fly with BMI often?
Thanks, Mark.

User currently offlineN175dz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

Hi Mark,

My UA flight to LHR was fine. I was put on it as I missed the bmi one. I was assigned a seat at the last minute (the flight was full), but was damn lucky and got an aisle seat in E+. I was very impressed how quiet the 777's P&W engines were - I'd only been on an RR 777 up until then. It was a good flight - but a totally different expreience to bmi (i have a trip report for that in here somewhere!).

I liked O'Hare. I'd been there before this trip, but never connected and it was pretty good. Going was OK - it took about 50 minutes from T5 to my connection in T1, but I did well getting off the plane  Smile. Coming back was easy as my changed UA flight left from T1, so I didn't have to get over to T5 at all! I'd say connecting to go home has to be better at IAD, as it's the same concourse (if coming in on UA mainline) and there's no visit to security.

How much I fly bmi depends on your definition of 'often' - i'll do at least four MAN-IAD/ORD-ATL round trips this year and next year and bmi is definetly the choice for me. Other that to IAD/ORD, i've only flown them once, LHR-MAN, and that was an excellent flight too.

On a different note - when do all the students come back? The university is dead without them!

cheers, Phil.

User currently offlineNightcruiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

Wow! Great trip report. The BMI A330 has some stunning livery, in my eyes. It seems that you enjoyed this trip.

User currently offlineSwiss-airplane From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 591 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

cool trip report. I enjoyed reading.... I just love the Boeing 777. It's a great plane.

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