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FRA - SIN - SYD On LH & SQ Part 2  
User currently offline767er From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7088 times:

Wedesday 2nd October 2002
Flight: LH778
Aircraft: 744
Departure time: 10.10pm
Departure gate: B42
Sector: FRA SIN
Seat: 45A

Presented my Boarding Card to the gate agent who slipped into the computer and I attempted to find a seat in the Gate area but with no luck. It was obvious that the flight was going to be chockers. The Boarding announcement and was made and it was free for all to board. Wisely I had positioned myself near the gate and was one of the first to board. Found my seat easily enough mean you would have to be blind not too. Once again this flight was full of Aussies and Kiwis.

The FAs on this flight seemed a slight improvement on the SIN FRA leg but still not great. Anyway the doors closed and we were off. I can’t remember much about the take off. I read the LH October issue and it was like reading the “New Zealand Women’s Weekly’ but less interesting. I scurried to the back to check the moves in this flight and they were shit. The audio wasn’t much better though the club mix channel was good. Perusing LH in flight magazine I noticed their logo and under it proclaimed “There’s no better way to fly’. How original is that! I think it should read ‘There are heaps better airlines to fly’.

Anyway before I start off on a rant the world famous in flight service. Cocktails were soon served but at least the FA this time wasn’t the same bad tempered bag from SIN and, no, I only asked for one Gin & Tonic. Dinner followed cocktails; Chicken or Fish. The person next to me requested the chicken, as did I. however when he opened the foil what lay before him could only been described as a gastronomical disaster. I wished I had taken a photo to send to www.airlinemeals.com. It would have received a 0/10 on the scorecard. Luckily I had not opened the foil (I was in shock) and asked the FA if I could swap for the fish and she was most obliging and I must say it was a considerable improvement. In fact it was very tasty. The salad in all fairness was atypical of airline Y salads: a slither of tomato and very limp lettuce pieces. The dessert though tasty was only the size of my thumb nail (perhaps a wee bit bigger) which I devoured ion two mouthfuls. Had a coffee and just read my book until the sleeping pill I took began taking effect. I slept for about 7 hours in my reckoning.

Woke up and slid open the shade. Bright daylight…too bright. Read and I could smell the brekky being cooked – or should I say, being heated up. Yes it was the Omelette again. I wanted to throw it out the window but couldn’t. Still the fruit and crackers were nice. Has anyone ever eaten an airline meal where the only thing eatable on the tray is the crackers and cheese? I have. Heaps of times.

There is not much else to report on this sector except we had a smooth landing into SIN but a lengthy taxi to our gate. The person next to me, a truck driver from Brisbane drawled ‘Struth mate, if that takes any longer we will be in fucking Darwin’. I had to concur.

In conclusion, this sector on Lufthansa was average. The service was an improvement of the SIN FRA sector. However the entertainment was abysmal. I still believe their short haul product/service is far superior to Long Haul

Friday 4th October 2002
Flight: SQ219
Aircraft: 744
Departure time: 9.30am
Departure gate:
Sector: SIN SYD
Seat: 64K

Checked out the Kai Sek Hotel in Chinatown around 6.3.0 and caught the MRT subway direct to Changi. What a breeze though I would not particularly recommend it if you had lots of luggage.

Arrived at Changi and fortunately I had received my seat allocation the previous days so it was just a question of checking in mu luggage. Hey presto that was done in a jiffy. Then headed through immigration and made my was straight to the Information Desk. You see, the previous day I realised that while unpacking my bag at the hotel my camera had gone astray. I was able to deduce that silly me had left it on the frigging LH plane. Soooooo I go to the Information Desk to see whether it has been found. She checks the computer and makes a phone call and informs me that, yes, a camera matching mine has been found. Unfortunately the camera is with LH and that the office is presently unattended. Gave me a slip of paper and advised me to ring them. Off I went. Sent a few e-mails then made a few attempts to contact LH. By this stage, time was marching by I went back to the Information Desk and the helpful women directed me to the Transfer Desk where I was dealt with by a very pleasant older gentleman. Eventually he tracked women down named Priscilla who had my camera and would bring it directly down .to me. Yes it was mine (or so I thought), thanked her profusely, bought the most delicious bottle of mineral water I have tasted in all my life and ran to Gate E27. Went through security then passed my BP to the gate agent just as they announced a boarding call for my row.

Greeted at the door by a male & female FA. SQs male uniforms are not even on the style gauge, especially in comparison to their female colleagues. Made my way to the back of the a/c where I had a window in the very last row.

There was a minor delay with luggage but the Captain kept everyone informed every few moments. Good work. Push back soon commenced, making our way to the end of the runway to fly out in a northerly direction. Taxied past the usual assortment of SQ a/c and noticed a very battered DC8F parked out in the maintenance area. We then lined up at the end of the runway, engines surged into life and we were off. Once the seatbelt signs were off the FA came around distributing headsets and menus.

A Continental Breakfast was soon served which consisted of a warm croissant, bread roll with jam, fruit dish and of course, tea & coffee. The breakfast was quite nice but then you can really mess up a Continental Breakfast unless they mange to burn the croissant and the rolls are like rocks. It sure beat eating one of those dreaded Omelettes, which, I am sure, are even awful on SQ!!!!!!!

I actually enjoyed Krisrworld this sector and watched a marvellous movie from the UK called ‘Bend it like Beckham’ which I had been meaning to see in Sydney but never got around too.

I love flying over Australia. You don’t really appreciate its vastness until you fly over it. The gentleman next to me who was on his first visit asked me if many people lived in the desert. I said ‘Well about 5 people in total. I went on to explain that the desert is basically unsuitable for human habitation’. We also flew over Ayers Rock but unfortunately I was on the wrong side of the plane. I reckon half the plane jumped up to try and get a glimpse. I did too and saw it in passing. It looked small from the air but, still, very impressive. Well, now I can say I have seen it at least.

I have read a number of complaints from people saying the SQ flight attendants were robotic. I disagree. I thought those harridans on Lufthansa were robotic and horrible with it. No, I found the SQ girls friendly, personable and efficient – and, boy do they work hard. I had a lengthy chat with the FA in my area when he wasn’t busy. Asked her what her favourite aircraft is (she only flies Boeings and loves the 777). Least favourite destination (Manila), Does she suffer from jet lag (Yes, very much so). What she will be doing in Sydney during her layover (sleeping)

Anyway I am rambling again.….where was I, oh yes. Managed to keep myself fully occupied for the entire flight and I did not have that ‘Oh god, when are we going to get there’ feeling you get on so many long haul flights. 3.30 hours into the flight, dinner was served. I chose the grilled Chicken in red wine herb sauce, selected vegetables and potatoes. The chicken was not particularly tasty – in fact, it tasted as if it had been swimming in liquid for too long. The vegetables and potatoes were delicious though and so was the ice cream for dessert. The white wine was a French Chardonnay (what is wrong with Aussie plonk I thought to myself) which I found rather too sweet for my palate.

By the time we commenced our descent into Sydney night had fallen which was a shame. We flew in from Botany Bay which was disappointing because Sydney can be one of the most spectacular cities in the world to fly into – I love seeing those Sydney icons like the Bridge and the Opera House from the air - the Botany Bay flightpath is the least attractive IMHO.

We landed and taxied into Gate 58. The International Terminal was fairly empty as the majority of departures had left for the day and there were only a few more arrivals for the evening. Hopped off the plane. Did some duty free shopping, whisked through Immigration and Customs. Collected my bags and walked out the door into a surprisingly brisk Sydney Friday night. There no queues at the taxi rank, jumped in a taxi and was in my door within 20 mins.

Summing up my trip. I must admit that Singapore Airlines surpassed all my expectations. What a truly first class airline. Well done!!! Well as for Lufthansa. Long Haul was pretty appalling and I would not recommend them to my worst enemy. The In Flight Entertainment was just disgraceful and lets not even discuss the Flight Attendants. However I must say I thought they were very good for short haul. In fact, I was pretty impressed. I understand they now claim to be “the Worlds Favourite Airline’. Rubbish. It’s more like ‘The Worlds Crappiest Airline’.

Hope you enjoyed reading this.

Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
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User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

Great to see you enjoy SQ, Brent, like many of us on this forum!


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User currently offlineCGK From Indonesia, joined Oct 2002, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6994 times:

Very funny and well-written report! I'd just also traveled for the first time with SQ back in August and they also exceeded my expectations in every way. As for LH, I had traveled with them twice, thankfully short routes (SIN-CGK and TXL-MUC) and found that the FAs were exactly like what you described. I guess the haven't changed, have they.

BTW, I think "The world's favourite airline" is BA's slogan not LH's.

User currently offline767er From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6993 times:

CGK: I think LH has tried to pinch that slogan off BA...something do with pax numbers. However, we all know the the number of pax carried in no indication of quality don't we/


Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
User currently offlineBhtchuo From Malaysia, joined Nov 2001, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6981 times:

hey there my friend, its www.airlinemeals.net not .com. it'll lead you to some where elses. ok!

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13754 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6951 times:

A lovely trip report. Great to hear that you had another great flight on board Singapore Airlines.

A bit of a pity to hear of your bad comments about Lufthansa though.


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6855 times:

I am so with you on that comment about the male FA's uniforn on SQ. I always pray for a Rwy 16 approach whenever I fly into Sydney. When you are on the left side of the aircraft, the night-time approach is simply astoundingly marvellously beautiful. Absolutely... By the way, glad you like SQ.

I wish you could take a pic of your hideous meal on LH. I am beginning to wondering about that German airline because I have read nothing but bad reports. Are they really that bad? By the way, was the interior pleasing to the eye? I hate it... honestly if I had my way I would fire the designer for making the cabin look like SHIT! I never thought gray goes with yellow! Yeeks! Just thinking about it makes my eyes crossed... Maybe that is why the German FAs are so grumpy because the surroundings are giving them a headache.

Sydney is one of my fav cities, by the way.


ps: A good insight into some Aussie slangs with the use of "brekky". Just like my Aussie friends used to say they had brewkies for brekky in Brissy by the billabong with a pom! Phew!


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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

My, my, Ryanair!!!, have a rant, will ya?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

767er: Nice report! Glad you liked the SQ flights.
By the way, there is usually at least one Aussie "plonk" on SQ's Aussie routes. Maybe it was the red. And if you think the chardonnay was sweet, you should try the reisling they serve in P/J on European flights. Hideously sweet!

User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6821 times:

I am beginning to wondering...

Shit... what has become of my English?

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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6810 times:

Maybe you were stoned  Smile

User currently offline767er From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6808 times:


Yes the LH cabins are just awful................all that gray. I wished I had taken photos of the hideous LH meals. What is that saying again.???...a picture tells a thousand words. Words defie decription of LH meals!!!!


Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

Hahahah Ryan, failed O Level English ah? Big grin


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6773 times:

I have attached a pic of the "lovely" LH Y Class cabin.

Kudos to the airline for giving us all headaches and more reason to close our eyes on a long haul flight! Whenever I look at this, only one question comes to mind... "Why, LH?"

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