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Killing 7 Birds With One Stone:Corfu!(BRE,FDH,FKB)  
User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Hello everybody,

this last Tuesday I returned from a week´s holiday at Corfu. I had come across a quite good package tour with which I could kill the aforementioned seven birds with one stone, i.e. this one trip:

1: Trying out German Rail´s new ICE which connects FRA with Cologne on a newly built track, doing 300 km/h (185 mph);

2, 3, 4: Flying to/from three German airports still missing in my "collection": Bremen Neuenlander Feld BRE, Friedrichshafen Loewental FDH, Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden Baden-Airpark FKB - they became numbers 24 through 26 on my "flown from/to" list of German airports;

5: Flying with Aero Lloyd, the only major German airline I´ve never managed to try out;

6: Checking out Corfu, supposedly one of Europe´s spotting Meccahs

7: Visiting Albania.


So, on March 19, I started my trip by taking the ICE from Mannheim to Dortmund. The tour operator 1-2-fly includes a free rail ticket from/to anywhere in Germany to/from the airport; normally German Rail charges an arm and a leg for that ride, so I always travel on the old scenic track through the Rhine Valley, a Unesco World Heritage Site.
Not bad, but one doesn´t really notice how fast one´s going. It´s of course a technical marvel but the novelty effect wears off fast, and then it becomes just another train - even if it carries an LH flight number.

The following day I continued to Bremen; after taking a short walk through the city centre (very nice) I took the tram to the airport.


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May 20, 2003
BRE-CFU
1610-1950
HF 2061
D-AHFM


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My first ride in the butt ugly TUI colours...

Anyway, I arrived at the airport three hours prior to departure and checked in immediately at the HF counter. I was rather amazed that 41 people had checked in before me, but that must have been the late night check in the day before. I requested a window seat as far in the front as possible and was positively surprised to get 1F - I don´t sit in the first row that much, you know.

I then visited the display of the "Bremen", the Junkers W33 with which the first transatlantic flight in east-west direction was carried out in 1928:


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Spent the rest of the time at the visitors´ terrace. It was rather boring, though; half an hour after my flight had left, a Beluga arrived - too bad I missed that..


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The flight itself was really uneventfull. 128 of 189 seats were full. Was on time and took quite precisely 1.5 hours. But I´ll have to comment a little on some service cutbacks which amount to being ridiculous imho: along with the warm meal, they distributed no salt and pepper. I mean how much do they save by such a measure, 10 cent per plane per flight? Please...
But I also have to report a practice which made a positive impression on me: between smokers (last three rows) and non-smokers there had been four rows left completely empty, as a kind of buffer zone.

Now on to the stay at Corfu: it´s just amazing!

I was staying at the http://www.corfuholidaypalace.com - you can see a tiny bit of it in this


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shot: it´s these four balconies in the upper right corner. My room was in the top floor (7th), the one closest to the runway. So you can imagine what kind of show I got from there.
The view was similar to this one


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but the Holiday Palace is located a bit higher and farther from the runway than the Royal, from which this shot was taken. Ask for room 749 if you ever happen to stay at the Holiday Palace (the former Hilton, btw).

Now, of course spotting was not only possible from my room (and the hotel pool), but there are some very interesting spots very close to the runway, from different angles. On Tuesdays (German charters), Saturdays (Germans too) and Fridays, Sundays and Mondays (Britannia et al) these places are quite crowded by enthusiasts.

One is a little dam which bridges the lagoon in which the runway is built. One can go right under the approach. Pictures from there look like this:


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Or you go to the terrace of some tourist trap shops, visible here:


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(The arches in the background.)

From there, you can do shots like these:


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Just great - I´m not a hardcore spotter, so the main emphasis of my trip lay on wasting time at the beach and the pool while working on my tan; but if you are, you´ll spend your time there shuttling between these two spots.


I also did my day trip to Albania, the 44th country I´ve visited. It was very interesting: it was a prime example to see what happens if the state loses its grip on the ordre public. It was a kind of eerie feeling, and I really got the impression of seeing Europe´s last Third World country.


So, after a week, I was picked up by taxi and driven to the airport for the return flights. I arrived after only seven minutes and faced a quite long queue. The flight´s routing was CFU-FDH-FKB, and they had one counter each for FKB and FDH. Weird system, but it was to become worse.
After half an hour, it was my turn, and I requested my usual window seat. The check-in dragon denied this with the reasoning that only families with kids were elligible for window seats because the flight was so full (sure, 157 pax on a 210 seat A321...). After some haggling and a polite observation on my part that this was a fucking travesty, she threatened me with the police and sent me away. I guess this is the closest I´ll ever get to becoming an air-rager.

May 27, 2003
CFU-FDH
1210-1335
YP 2111
Airbus A321-231, D-ALAO, delivered March 27, 2001


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Again, nothing really happened. I helped myself of course to a window seat. Service was really bad: just a cold meal, and that on a noon flight with a scheduled flying time of nearly 2.5 hours. Also, to add insult to injury, the baggage cart came through only once. Oh well, at least I got salt and pepper...


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We landed at FDH at 1312 (no nice views on Lake Constance because of low clouds), and I was hoping for a speedy onward journey, but not so: a CFU-SCN flight had been cancelled and the eleven passengers rebooked to FKB, from where they´d continue by bus. However, their baggage had been labelled "FDH", so what to do? The flight and ground crew decided the only option would be as follows: the SCN pax deplane, retrieve their bags and check in again.
This of course took some time, so we took off after 70 minutes at FDH - normally, a stewardess told me, they do it in ten to 15 minutes.

The delay enabled me to view the take off of the Zeppelin, which was quite impressive:


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May 27, 2003
FDH-FKB
1400-1440
YP 2047
Airbus A321-231, D-ALAO, delivered March 27, 2001

As you see, the plane was the same, the flight number had changed: my first connexion without leaving the plane.

Of the 157 original pax, 83 continued to FKB, plus around 40 boarded who had just done ALC-FDH.
The flying time was a mere 25 minutes, up, down. Not that I had expected anything else for a 115 mile hop. I think this was my shortest ever jet flight.

Unfortunately, there´s no overview of FKB in the database, but here


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you get at least a view of the tower. The airport is a former Canadian Air Force base - the streets are still called Alberta-Strasse, Winnipeg Avenue etc.

Two interesting observations I made while waiting for the bus to take me to Baden-Baden: this


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Luftwaffe/German Air Force Challenger was sitting there. Then a Super Puma of the Bundesgrenzschutz/Federal Border Guards


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arrived, some guy was whisked into the Challenger and buzzed off. No idea who it was, my best guess is a judge of the Federal Constitutional Court, which is located at Karlsruhe. They are entitled to Luftwaffe use.

And a Lufthansa Cargo MD11 was doing touch and go, at least six times before finally landing "for real". FKB with its 3500 metre runway, few traffic and closeness to FRA is obviously attractive for training.

That was it, I then used again the "Wunder-ICE", courtesy of 1-2-fly, to Mannheim on Tuesday and on to Dortmund on Wednesday. (Both trains doubled as LH flights.)

Cheerio, by for now, feel free to add your comments and questions.

Thanks!

Daniel Smile

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User currently offlineCanadianPylon From Canada, joined May 2003, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Being a former Military Brat (my dad was in the Canadian Air Force), and living in Europe for 3 years, I can appreciate the former Baden-Baden Air base.

When I was in Europe (Oslo, NATO base at Kolsas), we used to go to Lahr as it was the main Canadian air base in Germany at the time. I liked it a lot...

I heard a neat thing about Baden-Baden.... Apparently the runway was built in line with the Autobahn so that if the runway ever got damaged, they could drop a barrier and make the Autobahn part of the runway! I heard they even strengthened the Autobahn to handle large aircraft! Is that true?

CanadianPylon
"Get it? Got it? Good.."



Always looking for the longest route with the most transfers.
User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Enjoyed your report!

I think this was my shortest ever jet flight.
Did you already forget CGN-DUS?

Max


User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8486 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2568 times:
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Excellent report as usual!

Think i'll have to head out there for a touch of spotting at some time.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Hi Daniel, thanks indeed for this interesting report! Especially the hotel looks interesting, what a pity that you didn't spend more time with spotting. Compare to Konstantin's photos of his stay at CFU (see photos posted above), this is how tourists should spend their time at CFU  Big thumbs up

Sitting behind the HF check-in desk occasionally, I somehow feel like adding some comments: There is no late-night check-in for afternoon flights, only for flights with a departure before 12:00. But they open the check-in four(!) hours prior to departure, and sometimes some people are already queueing even earlier, so it's not unusual to have 41 passengers checked in three hours before departure.
Those "blocked" rows between smokers and non-smokers are sometimes there, in case that there are more smokers or more non-smokers than anticipated. However I have never had to give a non-smoking seat to a smoker, but often did I have to give smoking seats to a non-smoker (on full flights). Smoking is not very popular, but non-smokers who have to sit in a smoker zone can become angry, I wonder why they don't just make their flights completely non-smoking flights. Maybe the boss of Hapag-Lloyd is a chain-smoker, I don't know. Amazing btw that you got 1F, usually the first 5 rows are reserved for families with children, row one for families with an infant.

Once again, a very entertaining report with lots of interesting details, for example I had no idea that judges are entitles to use Luftwaffe, but unfortunately none of the Federal Constitutional Court judges are a.net members, so nobody posts Luftwaffe trip reports, but who knows, maybe in the near future...  Big grin


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

Daniel,

Nice trip report, thanks!

Again, nothing really happened. I helped myself of course to a window seat. Service was really bad: just a cold meal, and that on a noon flight with a scheduled flying time of nearly 2.5 hours. Also, to add insult to injury, the baggage cart came through only once. Oh well, at least I got salt and pepper...

The baggage cart? Sure you didn't mean something else...  Big grin

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSpotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Do you have your pictures anywhere in the web or even on A.Net?!? I would love to see them!

Nice report anyway!

regards, Florian


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

>>> I heard a neat thing about Baden-Baden.... Apparently the runway was built in line with the Autobahn so that if the runway ever got damaged, they could drop a barrier and make the Autobahn part of the runway! I heard they even strengthened the Autobahn to handle large aircraft! Is that true?

I don´t know about that specific stretch of Autobahn, CanadianPylon.

But generally speaking, yes, this phenomenon does exist at some places: extra wide hard shoulders, no curves or hills over a few miles, no bridges or power lines of course, plus the railings separating the lanes are easy to plug in and out. It´s pretty obvious when driving on such an autobahn.


>>>Did you already forget CGN-DUS?

Oops, yes I did, Godbless. Maybe I should outsource my log-keeping to you  Smile/happy/getting dizzy .


>>>Sitting behind the HF check-in desk occasionally, I somehow feel like adding some comments: There is no late-night check-in for afternoon flights, only for flights with a departure before 12:00.

Yes, Ndebele, at STR. At BRE they do it for all departures of the following day, according to the timetable print edition. (I also saw some people with late night boarding passes at the gate.)

>>>Amazing btw that you got 1F, usually the first 5 rows are reserved for families with children, row one for families with an infant.

Ya, I was surprised too. The check-in lady warned me about a baby in 1A and asked whether I still wanted 1F.

>>>unfortunately none of the Federal Constitutional Court judges are a.net members, so nobody posts Luftwaffe trip reports, but who knows, maybe in the near future...

Hmm, near future - ask me again in 30 years Big grin Or maybe some other certain member gets to write a report about a trip to Afghanistan...


>>>The baggage cart [came through only once]? Sure you didn't mean something else...

Oh no, absolutely not, Teahan: the cargo was then loaded in the beverage hold  Wink/being sarcastic  Big grin (Oops again, sorry I´m not good at proof reading...)


>>>Do you have your pictures anywhere in the web or even on A.Net?!? I would love to see them!

No, Spotterboy, they aren´t a.net quality by far (non-digital). I might have someone to scan them for me and maybe upload them somewhere else, I don´t know - it´s a long shot.
In the meanwhile, have a look at Konstantin´s and Joe´s from their trip last year. They´re far more spectacular than mine would ever get.


Daniel Smile


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

How dear you, go to one of the most exotic spotting places in Europe, and instead of spotting, you go to the beach?!  Laugh out loud

My suggestion is to go to PMI next time where you can see the planes arriving from the beach  Big grin

Serious now: fantastic report as usual!

BTW: I find that you got a nice service. You even got a hot meal on a charter flight! In comparision with Belgian charter airline Sobelair: I got a sandwich on a 4h flight to FNC some years ago... I was HUNGRY!

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Hey Daniel,
Seems like you've been around quite a bit recently! Big grin CFU sounds like a great place to go on vacation. It is one of the few airports in Greece, where you can go spotting (from a hotel roof) without getting arrested by the cops. I heard they are pretty strict concerning planespotting.

One question: isn't it highly unusual to have a package holiday which includes travel on two different airlines? I always thought the inbound trip would be flown on the same airline like on the outbound trip after (usually) a seven-day interval.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

Yes, Ndebele, at STR. At BRE they do it for all departures of the following day, according to the timetable print edition.
Really? I had no idea, I thought it would be German style to offer late-night only for flights leaving before noon, especially because most airport's baggage handlers refuse to already accept the baggage of afternoon flights of the next day. Obviously BRE is an exception.

By the way, great that you took this chance to take a ride on the ICE, but hey, if it says "Railway Germany", why not using it all through Germany  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Hello Daniel,

thanks a lot for the trip report, I enjoyed reading as usual. CFU must be a very good place for spotting and for vacation, I hope that I have the opportunity to visit the island sometime in the future.

Patrick

PS: Thanks also for the eMail with additional information about Albania.


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