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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5327 times:

As Jumbolino nearly "forced" me to write a trip report in another thread (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1125256/), here it is, I preferred to put it into the trip reports forum ...

Several weeks ago, Jumbolino asked me if I would like to come to Munich to welcome the first InterSky flight that was scheduled to land there on July 5. We decided to start that route about two months ago along with the decision to take over the Berne-Paris route Swiss had left at the end of March. InterSky and its predecessor Rheintalflug have been operating charter flights between Switzerland and Elba for about 20 years and there is a strong relationship between our management and the island. Augsburg Airways was more or less forced by its partner Lufthansa to give up their own operations and therefore they also didn’t resumed their scheduled flights between Munich and Elba this summer, so we decided to take over this route.

I was originally planning to go to Munich by train but after I heard how cheap the stand-by ticket from Altenrhein to Elba I had to buy from the tour operator who is selling the seats on this charter flight was, I of course preferred to go there by plane. It is not only funnier but also much more comfortable than a stressful journey onboard 2A (Deutsche Bahn) and their not too punctual regional trains.

Altenrhein is located in Switzerland, close to the Lake of Constance, however as it is very close to the Austrian border, it mainly serves as a gateway for the state of Vorarlberg which is in the very West of Austria while Vienna is in the very East. It takes some eight hours to get to Vienna by train and the ERJ-145s and Dash 8-400s of Tyrolean Airways which are commuting on the Altenrhein-Vienna route make it in just over an hour. To get there, I took the free bus shuttle leaving from Bregenz fifty minutes before departure. It arrived at the airport at about 10.30; the aircraft had just come in from Elba a few minutes earlier. While it would be a major problem to check-in 10 minutes before departure at other airports, it’s just business as usual at Altenrhein. The airport is very small, there is just one departure gate, a travel agency, a restaurant and two check-in gates. That’s it; however it is one of my favourite airports in terms of convenience. More or less 20 metres from the bus to the aircraft  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. As I just bought the ticket the day before, I obviously wasn’t on the passenger list but it turned out to be no problem either. The captain was very surprised to see me checking in and even more surprised when he heard that I was going to Munich.

Saturday, July 5
3L 404
InterSky Dash 8-300 D-BLEJ
Altenrhein, Switzerland – Elba Island, Italy
Load-Factor: about 95%
Scheduled 10.45 – 12.20
Actual 11.00 – 12.25
Seat 11D

Unfortunately I couldn’t get a window seat but with a stand-by ticket you can’t complain anyway. Boarding was very fast as it was raining; everyone was very interested in getting into the aircraft as soon as possible. It was actually the second time I was flying on D-BLEJ this week; the aircraft is leased from Augsburg Airways and was delivered to InterSky two weeks ago. I kinda like the new website titles on the engines, it looks nicer than our first aircraft.


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Last Monday I returned from a little low-cost trip with bmibaby (Munich-Cardiff-Paris CDG) on the first flight on the Paris CDG-Berne route. I was one of the last passengers to board the aircraft and was happy to meet one of the flight attendants I know quite well. I have never been afraid of flying, but it is always just a little bit more comfortable if you know all crew members. I found out I had got an exit row seat which was fine for me, so I at least had a little bit more leg room than usual at least. I was sitting next to a girl who was reading the latest Harry Potter book all the time on the way to Elba, by the way. Soon after boarding we taxied to the end of the runway, turned around and waited for take-off, however as ATC was very busy, we were forced to taxi back to the terminal again as a Tyrolean ERJ-145 was about to arrive from Vienna. After OE-LSM had landed, we taxied back to the end of the runway once again and did a rolling take-off. After take-off we did a sharp right turn, so I was able to take a glimpse of the airport once again until we entered layer of clouds. As soon as we were south of the Alps, the clouds disappeared and from there on there weather was just more than nice to fly. Just as we flew over the Swiss canton of Ticino my colleague started service, first a round of ham, cheese or chicken sandwiches, then a round of “Linzer cakes” or Biberli and at the end followed by a drink service. Our route was Altenrhein-Chur (the town I lived before I moved to Austria)-Locarno-Milan-Genoa-Elba. During the descent to Elba, Corsica was in sight on the horizon, the approach into Marina di Campo airport was breathtaking, and we overflew the island at very low height then made an extremely sharp turn over the sea south of the island and approached from the South. As the runway is very short, the aircraft approached at very low speed and brakes and thrust reversers are really recommended if a 50-seater wants to land there …  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

There were lots of small Pipers, Beeches and Cessnas sitting around the tarmac, an Aerocondor Do228-200s was also parked there, Air A!ps Do328-110 OE-LKE landed just two minutes after our flight.

After all passengers had left the aircraft, I helped cleaning the aircraft, sorting all seat pockets and so on. Afterwards I decided to go out and have a closer look at the Aerocondor Do228-200 aircraft parked in front of our Dash, I have seen Do228 aircraft before, for example LGW’s Do228 flying around in Germany, but I have never had the chance to have a closer look at it so far. I went back to our aircraft and had some cups of ice tea until boarding started, I knew that there would only be some 10-15 passengers onboard. Most of passengers travelling on this route are Germans and as it was the first flight of the season, there were not many passengers we had already flown to Elba and so the poor load was not too surprising. It looks like the route would become very successful; we already sold some 60% of seats for September and October now, so we will surely reach profitability on that route too.

Saturday, July 5
3L 412
InterSky Dash 8-300 D-BLEJ
Elba Island, Italy – Munich, Germany
Load-Factor: about 20%
Scheduled 12.50 – 14.30
Actual 13.10 – 14.40
Seats 11A, B, C and D  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

On the flight out of the wonderful Italian island, my stay was way too short unfortunately; I had the exit row for myself which was very nice as I could change from one window to another to see all interesting landmarks. Once again, it was a pleasure to fly over Italy; I was able to see the leaning tower of Pisa, the opera of Verona and so on. The Munich-Elba flights are normal scheduled, low-cost flights, tickets starting from 59 EUR one-way and therefore there was our normal Skybar service where one is able to buy drinks and snacks from the bar. An unaccompanied minor was sitting in the row behind me and while my colleague tried to make him happy with ice tea, chocolate, postcards, “Gummibärchen” and so on, he kept refusing everything and swearing all the time …  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. The routing on this flight was Elba-Pisa-Bologna-Verona-Bolzano-Innsbruck-Munich. Soon after passing over Verona, there unfortunately were nothing but heavy clouds and there was no way to see everything, so I resumed reading newspaper and ticking off aircraft in my jp which I had seen at Altenrhein and Elba. We approached right over the city centre of Munich, I have only been to the city twice so far and it was nice to get an overview of it from the air. During our descent into MUC, a Condor … sorry Thomas Cook powered by Condor B757-300 passed. We landed on the Southern runway about 10 minutes late, our parking position was next to a Lufthansa CityLine CRJ-700, I have to say, the apron at Terminal 1 looks really empty now after more or less all Star Alliance aircraft have been moved to Terminal 2, even Eurowings ATR 72 were sitting at stands where earlier there were nothing but A321s and even A340s. I said goodbye to my colleagues and entered the bus which was bringing us to the terminal where I met Jumbolino.

We decided to go to the visitors hill by train as soon as possible, but in order to get a better photograph of D-BLEJ, we wanted to go to a hill nearer to the parking position, however as soon as we arrived there, we just saw it departing on the Northern runway …  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. You know the rest of the story.

Looking forward to your comments and to meeting more of you guys at MUC the last time when weather will most probably be a little more spotter-friendly.

Best regards
Thomas

BTW, the visitors deck at Terminal 2 is quite nice, however I think the glass is not too good for photographers, as a registration spotter I don’t mind whether there is a glass or not. The good thing about the terrace is that one is able to stay under this glass construction without getting wet when it’s raining.

[Edited 2003-07-07 00:59:58]


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5245 times:

Stupid Kid! I would NEVER swear at an F/A trying to make me happy...who could refuse Iced Tea Chocolate, and A Dash-8-300
-UN
(dreams of flying somewhere alone, can fly without UM Big grin)



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User currently offlineTriley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

Thanks for the trip report Thomas. I have been really curious about this airline for a long time. I will be flying with them for the first time on the 29th of July from Vienna to Berne. I am really looking forward to the trip.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

Hi Thomas!

As Jumbolino nearly "forced" me to write a trip report in another thread

I am glad she did because your trip report is very interesting and of course is it an unusual routing to get from Altenrhein (what is the IATA code) to MUC. Tell me when you guys are planning the next meeting at MUC, I can`t wait to see the brand new Terminal 2.

Patrick


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

Hi guys,
thanks a lot for your feedback.

@UN_732: At least I didn't refuse to eat, good to know where the sandwiches are ... :-P

@Triley1057: I am looking forward to hearing more about how you experienced InterSky after your flight. Vienna-Berne is a very nice flight with the Dash 8-300, some kind of a lengthened sightseeing flight in the Alps ... especially as it isn't flying that high as jets do.

@Sabena332: The three letter code of Altenrhein is ACH. I hope we will have a bigger a.net meeting in Munich soon.

Best regards
Thomas



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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5024 times:


Hi!

Nice report about that unique flight. In the summer 2001 I was in that small tiny airport with my son and some friends, they lived close to St. Gallen and I never imagined that there was an international airport there. When we arrived there I saw a Reinthalflug EMB145 ready for t/off, I actually took a photo of it, also there I remember and was very surprised was a AN2 from Romenia, I think they used to parachuting, do you recall seeing it? Anyway, that place and the EMB145 got my day!
regards and thks!


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Thomas,
After reading your very nice report, I am really starting to get interested in trying out InterSky myself one day! I am visiting friends at FDH right across the lake from time to time, so it wouldn't be a problem to drive to Altenrhein. Are there any reasonably priced same-day return trips possible from here? Unfortunately, InterSky doesn't fly anywhere near where I am living, so this is possibly the only chance to try out "your" very sympathetic sounding little airline.  Smile



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

Hi guys

@CV990: Yes, there was a Romanian An-2 at Altenrhein several times when I have been there in the last few weeks, I also saw it that Saturday. Has anyone got the registration, BTW?

@Tristar500: We only operate this single charter flight on behalf of VIP Touristik between Altenrhein and Elba. But maybe you can tell me what route you would be interested in, maybe we can do something for you!?!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Best regards
Thomas



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4974 times:

I would be looking for a reasonably priced (after all, it woould be a joy ride/ spotting trip kind of thing) same-day return trip.

BTW - I have heard rumors that Intersky might restart LH's old CGN-FDH-CGN route? That would be great for my friends at Lake Constance and myself! Hahn Air is a little bit too pricey on the route between Lake Constance and Northrhine-Westphalia.
 Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4969 times:

As Jumbolino nearly "forced" me to write a trip report in another thread Big grin
one of the best ideas I ever had, looking forward to read more of them !
 Big thumbs up
 Big thumbs up

Jumbolino.



Kind Regards, Jutta.
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

Nice and detailed trip report.

I will be going to Austria for sure this summer. I will probably try InterSky on the BRN-VIE-BRN flights.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4935 times:

Hi guys,

@Tristar500: You can ask questions about rumours regarding InterSky but I won't answer them  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. There are lots of funded and unfunded rumours about our company at the moment, some of them are true, others are not. Let's wait and see ...  Wink/being sarcastic

@Jumbolino: Does this mean I have to fly the route every weekend from now on?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

@RJ100: Just let me know what day you will fly and try to get a seat on one of those flights too to have a little chat, unfortunately I haven't been to EAP for about half a year, so I didn't see the new terminal yet. Your profile just reminded me about that.

Best regards
Thomas






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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Thomas,
BTW I checked the fares for an Intersky day return trip from CDGG to BRN in August, when I will be in Paris anyway. 59 Euro plus 75 Euro tax(!!!) - unfortunately that's a bit too much just in order to try out an airline. I've never seen such outrageous taxes on such a short two-segment hop!!!  Wow!



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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

Hello Thomas_Jaeger

That would be cool! I will let you know the dates as soon as I know them. I'm planning to visit someone in St. Pölten so I have to fly into Vienna...Maybe I can get a Swiss Europe Saver out of BSL otherwise I would love to try InterSky. It is a very likable airline, flexible and niche orientated. Reminds me a little bit of the good old Crossair times Sad

If I fly out of Berne the train ticket from Basel to Bern-Belp will cost more than the InterSky flight, LOL  Smile

I also heard the rumour that InterSky will base a third Dash-8 in Friedrichshafen with possible flights to Cologne, Berlin and Vienna.
Thomas, do you have any information if they will expand to other airports in Switzerland such as BSL or GVA? Now with all the LX cutting...

Best regards,
Thomas  Smile



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

Hi Thomas,
we are for the moment not at all interested in BSL and GVA, there are other airports you might already know of ... GVA with easyJet being the biggest airline there and Basle where Swiss didn't cut as many routes as I thought they would are not very attractive for us.
Best regards
Thomas



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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4891 times:

Thanks for the info. Exactly what i thought...

Here in BSL LX "blocks" some routes so that other carriers hesitate to fly to BSL. A good example is THF with just one daily flight around 12 o'clock! LX seems to play a mean game here...

Back to the topic: Good luck to InterSky!

Thomas



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4881 times:

Hi Thomas,
thanks a lot for the news regarding the cancellation of the morning and evening rotations on BSL-THF. This is very good news for us after the anticipated closure of the BRN-BSL route as we are offering more flights on BRN-THF now then Swiss does on BSL-THF.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Best regards
Thomas



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User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

@Thomas
would be a very good idea - every weekend in Munich - I mean

but from 18th due to end of July we could change the location to my parents swimming-pool (Baden 20 km nearby Vienna)
and you will get a detailed report what happened today when I'm sober again (Stroh 80 or enough Vodka wasn't available ....)
but tomorrow or at least on sunday I will kiss the EU sign (doesn't matter where F, D or A that was the best idea all europeans had - the EU - from Dover to the Ural -hopefully I will see that .... but I think I've a good chance)

Jumbolino (will be a big Jumbo soon --> like Trapattoni "ich habe fertig").



Kind Regards, Jutta.
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