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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
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I recently did a two weeks French language course (and holidays) in Montpellier (France). As there are no direct flights between my home airport Stuttgart (STR) and Montpellier, I decided to take DBA (DI) from STR to Nice (NCE) and the train from Nice to Montpellier. Besides, I did two short trips by plane within the South of France (see later in this report).

The price for the DBA flight STR-NCE-STR was EUR 110,00 return + EUR 30,64 taxes. I had booked the flight in August. About a week before departure I was called by a DBA agent and I was told that the flight time for my return flight would be 1,5 hours later because of changes in the timetable (winter timetable). This was not bad as it offered a bit more time for spotting at NCE.


Thursday, 16 October 2003
Stuttgart (STR) - Nice (NCE)
Airline: DBA
Flight number: D I 4604
Scheduled departure time: 11:50
Scheduled arrival time: 13:10
Type of aircraft: B 737-300
Registration: D-ADBR (“Sternschnuppe” )



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I arrived at Stuttgart airport about two hours prior to departure. There was only one check-in counter open for DBA at that time, but there was no queue at all. I asked for a window seat at the back of the aircraft and got 22A. By the way: STR seems to be the only station where they don’t give out the typical green DBA boarding passes. I received a neutral boarding pass with the “Stuttgart Ground Services” logo (the handling agent at STR).

One other thing, a bit off-topic: This was the day of the Aero Lloyd bankruptcy. There should be two YP-flights from STR that day. I had heard about the sad news on the radio that morning. This came indeed very surprisingly. But when I arrived at the airport, the YP-flights weren’t marked as “cancelled”. Check-in for the flights in Terminal 4 seemed to work normal. Only about 10:30 there was an announcement like “all passengers booked on Aero Lloyd are requested to contact counter XXX”; then the flights were marked as “cancelled” on the screens. It seems as if the information wasn’t distributed to all stations on time.

After some time of spotting from the viewers area I passed security check and went to the gate. The aircraft, D-ADBR, had just arrived from TXL. Like on the photos, the aircraft still has the green side tail which looks a bit cheap in my opinion. I think the outside of a plane is also important and realized by the passengers. Boarding started on time. The aircraft was parked on a gate position, but the dock was out of order, so we where bussed to the aircraft. I counted about 50 or 60 passengers; so with only about 40% a rather poor load factor. Nearly all of them seemed to be German tourists, the majority elderly people (not a surprise as there were no school holidays at that time).

We were welcomed by the very friendly cabin crew, three female flight attendants. I took my seat at the back of the aircraft (22A), while 22 B and C remained empty. The safety-demonstrations were very detailed and not in the standard text; probably to make passengers pay more attention to it (for example things like “and if the oxygen masks should fall out of the cabin ceiling this morning, …” ). And I have never seen such a detailed instruction of the use of the life vests.
Take-off was on time. The air was very clear on that day, so there were great views on the Lake Constance which we crossed and later on the Alps (It’s always fascinating to cross the Alps by plane). The captain made his announcement about the flight route and told us that there would be “agreeable 16 –17 degrees” at NCE. Well, “agreeable” is always a question of the point on view …  Big grin

Shortly after take-off, the cabin crew started with the service. As usual on DBA, food and drinks could be purchased (for in my opinion reasonable prices; for example hot sandwich and soft drink of choice for EUR 4,00). As a new offer, they had two sorts of hot sandwiches that were prepared in the oven. All in all a very good idea to offer something hot even on short-haul flights. The only “problem” was that nearly everybody ordered such a hot sandwich which they were obviously not prepared for. Always when somebody ordered a hot sandwich, one of the flight attendants had to walk to the galley and put it into the oven which seemed to be quite small. She later returned with one or two sandwiches, walked back to the oven, and so one. One flight attendant was always walking between the galley and the other flight attendant with the trolley. In addition to that, they also had to fill in a list how much they sold. They sold quite a lot on this holiday route. It took ages until they got through. I received my sandwich as one of the last when the captain announced his “10 minutes to landing”. And this with a load factor of only 40%; what would they have done if the plane had been full ? By the way: on the return flight the distribution was much better organized; they obviously had to gain experience with this new product.

Approach was great. I was glad to sit on the left side as after a turn over the Mediterranean Sea we came in from the west with an excellent view on the coast (Cannes and the small islands lying off the coast, Antibes and Cagnes-sur-Mer). We touched down and taxied to a gate position. I thanked the crew and went to baggage reclaim where my bag arrived quickly.



Before my onward journey by train to Montpellier I stayed three days in Nice. This gave me the opportunity for a really special trip: I decided to go to Monaco by helicopter. Heli Air Monaco offers 30 daily scheduled flights between Nice Airport and Monaco Heliport. I booked a return flight for EUR 130,00 + EUR 14,11 taxes. Not really cheap for a 6-minutes-ride, especially when you keep in mind that a bus ride between Nice Airport and Monaco takes only about 30 minutes. So I think you have to be really rich and important to use the Heli on that route (which I am not, of course … Wink/being sarcastic ) No, I took the Heli for the fun of flying (I think helicopter flights are really impressive and I hadn’t had many so far) and I wanted to see the Côte d’Azur from the air. I thought I could afford this luxury once. By the way: according to Heli Air Monaco’s web page, to the time of the Monaco Formula 1 Grand Prix in June, flights cost up to EUR 600 return !!! For this money you can easily cross the Atlantic…

Friday, 17 October 2003
Nice (NCE) – Monaco Heliport (MCM)
Airline: Heli Air Monaco
Flight number: YO 830
Scheduled departure time: 08:30
Scheduled arrival time: 08:36
Type of aircraft: Eurocopter (Aerosp.) AS350B2 Ecureuil
Registration: 3A-MTT



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I had a booking for the 9:35 flight. On the booking it says: “Please be at our desk 10 minutes before the time of your flight.” I thought this was ridiculous; they will never make the payment, check-in, security check, drive to the helicopter etc. in only 10 minutes. But I had to see that I was wrong…

I arrived at Nice Airport from the centre of Nice by bus at about 8:15. I went directly to the Heli Air Monaco desk in the main hall of Terminal 1. The lady there asked me to follow her and took me immediately to an other desk where I had to make the payment to an other employee; then a third member of the staff took me and three other passengers to security check (they have an extra security check for the helicopter flights, so there was no waiting time at all) and then to a mini-bus owned by Heli Air Monaco. We had a nice ride over the whole apron with a short stop at Terminal 2 where we collected an other passenger. Luggage was stored in the back of the bus; the passengers would receive it at Monaco. As it was only a day trip for me, I had no luggage of course. We drove through a tunnel under the runway and reached the parking position for helicopters which is situated on a small peninsula at the far end of the airport; obviously in order not to disturb / interrupt the traffic on the runway. There were two helicopters of Heli Air Monaco out there, apart from about four or five other helicopters from other companies or private.

The engine of “our” helicopter was already started and the rotor was rotating; the five passengers entered the heli while members of the ground crew stored the luggage in the back of the aircraft. Everything went very, very quick. I think quickness is the main business of Heli Air Monaco which is very important for the majority of their customers. One of the passengers took the seat in the front next to the captain (unfortunately not me as I took some photos and was one of the last to board), the other four (including me) took their seats in one row at the back. The flight was fully booked. To the passengers: Apart from me, there were two businessmen and two elderly Swiss ladies which were travelling together.

Heli Air Monaco operates two different types of helicopters: the Ecureuil with 5 seats and the larger Dauphin 2 with 9 seats, so they can vary the type of aircraft according to the passengers booked. As they have both types present, they can also make short changes for short-term bookings.

After everybody had taken his/her seat, the doors were closed and the helicopter departed immediately. Only 15 minutes after my arrival at the airport I was in the air. We didn’t climb very high. The route lead us directly over the Mediterranean Sea and along the coast (very good views as we were not flying high) to Monaco. It was windy and the sea was rough.
The approach to Monaco by air was really impressive. We touched down at Monaco heliport which is situated at the sea not far away from central Monaco (Monaco is not really big). Four other aircraft from Heli Air Monaco and a French helicopter were out there. To give you an impression of Monaco Heliport, here is a photo:


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An employee opened the doors while the rotor was still rotating, the passengers left the plane and we walked to the small terminal building. The luggage was delivered outside the terminal. By the way: Heli Air Monaco offers a free mini-bus service to and from any place in Monaco for all passengers. But as I wanted to watch the traffic at the Heliport for some time (very busy!), I didn’t take this offer. Instead I later walked to the city centre. I spent the day exploring the city / country (very interesting country!) and returned to the heliport in the afternoon.



Friday, 17 October 2003
Monaco Heliport (MCM) – Nice (NCE)
Airline: Heli Air Monaco
Flight number: YO 1545
Scheduled departure time: 15:45
Scheduled arrival time: 15:51
Type of aircraft: Eurocopter (Aerosp.) SA365C3 Dauphin 2
Registration: 3A-MJP



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I had a ticket for 16:15, I went into the small terminal building about half an hour before. One heli had just left, the next one was scheduled for 16:15 (my booked flight). At check-in I received a boarding pass (just a colourful piece of paper with a picture of a helicopter on it; no flight dates or something like that) and was told to go through security check immediately. Security was very quick. There were already 6 other passengers waiting in the small waiting lounge. When I arrived, an employee of Heli Air Monaco opened the door and asked us to follow him. I was surprised because I had expected the flight to depart at 16:15 (it was still about half an hour). But obviously they operate more flights if the demand is high. They really don’t let you wait for a minute!

So we were all in all 7 passengers, plus an employee from Heli Air Monaco who obviously had to go to Nice and took the seat in the front next to the captain. With all in all 8 people we had the larger Dauphin 2 this time which offers space for 9 passengers (so one seat remained empty). But at least I got a window seat this time!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

We took off, a last great view over Monaco, then we turned over to the sea. It was extremely windy now, the sea was very rough, but to my surprise you didn’t notice much about that inside the helicopter. Approach on Nice Airport was great; I just saw a Duo Airways Canadair Jet landing on the near runway. We touched down after a short 6-minutes flight. A minibus was already waiting; the luggage was loaded into the back of the bus. Again everything was very quick. We were asked which airline we were going to take for the onward journey. There was one passenger for AF, one lady for FU and four people for LX. As I was the only one without connecting flight I said I would leave the bus at Terminal 1 (in order to have the whole apron-ride). So we made a short stop at T2 (AF) and proceeded to T1 where the rest of the passengers left the bus and took his/her luggage (it is not possible to check through the luggage to other flights). This was the end of a really extraordinary trip.



Two days later I continued my journey by train (nice train ride along the coast!) to Montpellier where I did a two weeks language course in French. I also visited Montpellier Méditerranée Airport (MPL); not much to see; many AF-flight to CDG / ORY with A 319/320/321, some Air Littoral movements, a few AF regional flights with Emb 120, two daily FR-flights to STN and HHN and BA to LGW. MPL is the home base of Air Littoral, although their main operational base is Nice. But I somehow felt I couldn’t leave the South of France without having tried out at least once the home carrier of the South, Air Littoral. As the weekend was free, I surfed through the web to look for a good short-trip. I decided to go back to Nice for the weekend as NCE was very good for spotting and the price was cheaper than all other destinations with such a short-term booking (EUR 109,00 return + EUR 39,40 taxes). I booked on Friday evening at the Air Littoral ticket counter at the airport for a flight on Saturday morning.



Saturday, 25 October 2003
Montpellier (MPL) – Nice (NCE)
Airline: Air Littoral
Flight number: FU 222
Scheduled departure time: 07:00
Scheduled arrival time: 07:50
Type of aircraft: Canadair Regional Jet 100 ER
Registration: F-GPTC



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I arrived at the airport at 05:45 with the first shuttle bus (EUR 4,80 for a 15-minutes bus ride – quite expensive!) and went into the terminal. The AF check-in was very busy a there were three flights for Paris leaving between 06:30 and 07:10, but the Air Littoral-counter was emty (there was only one counter open for the flight to Nice). The young Swissport check-in agent didn’t say much; he obviously was still tired  Sleepy I asked for a window seat; he handed me over a boarding pass for seat 3A, sequence number 003. I proceeded through security check to the waiting lounge which was exclusively used by FU and was in the colourful FU-design. Tea or coffee were for free from a machine.

Boarding started at 06:40; we were bussed to the aircraft, a CRJ. There were 29 passengers on this flight. The cabin was very nice, grey leather seats with colourful seat covers. I took my seat; the captain informed us that we would take off over the Mediterranean Sea and that the flight time would be only 29 minutes. The flight attendant (there was only one on this flight) distributed refreshing towels before take-off.

Then we took off. It was still dark, but as it was clear, the light of the coast towns were visible. The flight attendant came through with food and drink service (different croissants for breakfast and the normal variety of drinks; I had an orange juice). Later she distributed sweets. All in all an extraordinary good service for such a short flight. The approach on NCE during dawn was great with all the lights at the coast.  Wow! We touched down at about 07:30 and were bussed to Terminal 1. Nearly all passengers had connecting flights with Air Littoral, as NCE is used as a hub to connect all major French cities with Italy, Spain, Corsica and North Africa. Only two passengers and me left the security area.

I spent the day with spotting at NCE. I have to say: Nice is nice. (Sorry for this rather old joke!!  Yawn )


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I spent most of the time in the restaurant in the relatively new Terminal 2 as I hadn’t found any good outside spots, besides it was quite cold. T2 is used by AF and partner airlines, Easyjet, Aeris, BMI and the North African carriers which code-share with AF. All other carriers use Terminal 1; Air Littoral is the biggest airline there.
Easyjet is really big at NCE; apart from serving LTN, STN, LGW and other UK-destinations, they also offer domestic flight to Paris and flights with Easyjet Switzerland (A 319!) to Switzerland.

On the next day it was time to return to Montpellier for an other week.



Sunday, 26 October 2003
Nice (NCE) – Montpellier (MPL)
Airline: Air Littoral
Flight number: FU 225
Scheduled departure time: 21:15
Scheduled arrival time: 22:05
Type of aircraft: Canadair Regional Jet 100 ER
Registration: F-GPYR



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As there are so many flights of FU at NCE, at least one check-in counter is always open for all FU-flight (when there are several flights to the same time, there are of course more counters). So I already checked in at about 11:00 for my evening flight. I got seat number 5A and surprisingly sequence number 006. Obviously there must have been some connecting passengers.

About 2 hours prior to departure I passed security check which is very strict at NCE; after the normal X-ray, all hand luggage is searched by hand! But as they have a lot of people working there, it doesn’t take much time.

Also the (older) T1 is quite modern, only the waiting area for regional flights is really poor. In fact, it is just an aisle with very few seats at the side. When there are many flights leaving at the same time, it is very crowded. As Air Littoral has a hub system, it is always like that. Boarding started at 20:45; it was a bit of a chaos with several busses being around with much too few space on the apron in front of the gates. Maybe that is the reason why they check boarding passes again when entering the aircraft. The bus still had to wait for some connecting passengers. Finally we left. There were only 16 passengers on this flights, among them 3 unaccompanied children. It was heavily raining when we left the bus and went into the aircraft, again a Canadair Jet. We were welcomed by the flight attendant and the captain who was standing in the cockpit door.

We were off-block at 21:15; take-off was in Eastern direction over Nice and Monaco (the usual take-off direction at NCE). As it was very clouded and dark, there was nothing to see outside shortly after departure.

The flight attendant began with the cabin service. Drinks as usual and a great variety of at least 4 or 5 different sandwiches. I had cheese with salmon which was very good. As there were not many passengers on board, the flight attendant came through with a second drink service and even a second sandwich-service followed by sweets as on the first leg. Once more a very good service.

We came into MPL again over the sea and touched down at 21:55. The flight attendant made an announcement “Welcome to Montpellier Méditerranée Airport 10 minutes ahead of schedule”. Well, this provided a little bit of Ryanair-feeling!  Big grin (By the way: an FR B 737-800 having just arrived from HHN was parked in front of the Terminal building).

The passengers left the aircraft and we were bussed to the terminal building.

Summary of Air Littoral: I was really pleased with this airline. Everybody I met (ticket counter, flight crews) was extremely friendly. Cabin service was highly above average of other airlines on domestic flights.
Unfortunately, the airline is in trouble at the moment. They have notes on all counters which say something like “against other rumours, all our operations will continue normally and as always we will offer you our best possible service”. Well, on my flights they surely did.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I really hope the airline will survive.



After one more week at Montpellier it was time to fly home again. I took the train from Montpellier to Nice and the bus to the airport. So here is the report of my last flight.

Saturday, 01 November 2003
Nice (NCE) – Stuttgart (STR)
Airline: DBA
Flight number: D I 4608
Scheduled departure time: 15:40
Scheduled arrival time: 17:00
Type of aircraft: B 737-300
Registration: D-ADBR (“Sternschnuppe” )



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I arrived at the airport about four hours before departure. As I didn’t want to take my luggage with me all the time until the opening of the check-in counters, I decided to leave it at the left luggage counter. Well, this was not as easy as you might think: The lady there was very friendly, but she explained me that they were not allowed to take any electronic equipment. She pointed out to a list with at least 20 different electronics. I took my shaver and my hairdryer out of my suitcase and into my rucksack and thought this should be enough. My luggage then was X-ray searched. The man at the machine told me that there were still electronic things in my bag. I asked myself what it could be and took out an adapter. It was like this about four or five times; I always had to take out something more. Unbelievable, how many electronic (and “half-electronic” things you have with you when going on holiday! In the end, my rucksack was full of things. All in all I found this a bit ridiculous. I mean, the lady from the left luggage and the guy from security were both very friendly; all in all it was not their fault. But if I can take all these things into the aircraft, why am I not allowed to leave them at the airport?

Check-in opened two hours prior to departure; I was the second passenger to check in. There were two counters for this flight which was for STR and HAM (since the winter timetable, they have put together these two flights; the rotation is now HAM-STR-NCE-STR-HAM while all legs are bookable). Ground handling for DBA at Nice is done by Globe Ground. The lady at check-in was very friendly and spoke an excellent German. As always I asked for a window seat and got 5F. After security check I proceeded to the gate. About 15:00 they made an announcement that boarding would start in 10 minutes which made many people start queuing up at the gate. Obviously Ryanair frequent-flyers!  Big grin

The aircraft was again D-ADBR, I had already had 2 flights with this aircraft: DUS-TXL in November 2001 and STR-NCE on this tour. Unfortunately not a new aircraft for me.  Sad

Boarding started and we entered the plane. This time, load factor was much better; I guess between 70 and 80%, but I didn’t count passengers (too much people!). There were four flight attendants on this flight, two female and two male (one more than on STR-NCE two weeks before). The captain made a very detailed explanation of the route before take-off: we would take off over Nice and Monaco (great view) and then proceed to Genoa, Milan, Zurich, Stuttgart.

We were off-block at 15:35 (five minutes early) and shortly after in the air. The route was as described above. Most of the flight it was clouded. Cabin service was like on the flight STR-NCE two weeks ago, again with the very popular hot sandwiches. But this time it was much better organized; one flight attendant stayed at the galley while the other one gave signs when a hot sandwich was ordered. Like that (and because there were four instead of three FA’s) service was much quicker.

Shortly before landing at STR, the purser told the passengers for HAM to stay on the plane. There would be a short check of the hand luggage, but they didn’t have to leave the aircraft. We touched down at STR and taxied to a gate position in front of the terminal. About half of the passengers left the aircraft at STR while the others proceeded to HAM. I left the aircraft and went to the baggage reclaim where my luggage arrived quickly.

Summary of DBA: They are still my favourite airline. They offer the best value for money in my opinion. They serve main airports, they have a high punctuality and offer a very friendly service. I will definitely fly them again.


Now, thanks for reading this very long report; questions, comments, criticism, etc. are welcomed as always.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5138 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Hi Contact Air,
I enjoyed reading your report, I´m on the same DBA route with nearly the same summary like yours in early September.
I hope for a positive future to DBA and to FU too.
Regards,Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

ContactAir

Great report ! and remebers me like it has been written ages ago
my last FU flight was in July 2001 LYS-NCE-MUC and before I had approx 100 with them (most on behalf of SR, but the last one was a REAL FU flight)
and at the moment I was back in MUC FU wasn't there anymore  Sad
(they left ZRH even earlier - at the same day of SR crash)

oh well they have still the little ATR F-GPYO ?!


for the report *GRAA*

Jumbolino.



Kind Regards, Jutta.
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

Hello Markus and Jutta,
thanks for your replies!

Markus, I have read your DBA-report, too (but I'm not sure if I wrote a reply).

Jutta, F-GPYO is still in service. I have seen this aircraft at NCE several times. But the number of ATR's has been reduced. Some of them have left the fleet.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6503 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

Nice report!

I usually go to Juan Les Pins, next to Antibes in January every year and will go again next year. Thanks for the tips of the restaurent in the new T2 as a good place for spotting. There's also a great spot at Cap 3000, the shopping center next to the airport. Works great when you have a car.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Hi Contact Air,
Your very nice and detailed report makes for a highly enjoyable read.  Big thumbs up Concerning your search for spotting positions in NCE, there are at least as far as I know no positons close to the terminal anymore, which permit a good view over the apron. I had to find that out the hard way when I specifically flew ORY-NCE-ORY in 2001 just to get a glimpse of the action. However, the parking spot which was siuated close to the fence was at that time replaced by the construction site for the Terminal 2 extension.  Sad

Anyway, I am really intrigued what you think of DI's new two-class service concept. How many passengers were sitting in the "Business Class" section of your flights - is the differentiation between the two booking classes actually visible on the airplane?




Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

How many passengers were sitting in the "Business Class" section of your flights - is the differentiation between the two booking classes actually visible on the airplane?
There is no Business Class "section" on DI flights. Passengers with Business ticket just have certain advantages, e.g. free re-booking, and they get a voucher for one snack and two beverages when checking in, so they don't have to pay. Business passengers can sit everywhere throughout the whole plane, however the check-in agents are advised to give them seats "as far in the front as possible", but there is no curtain and economy passengers may sit in the front rows as well. Business Class passengers often prefer the overwing exit row, so the whole cabin is a mix.


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

Oh typical me, to reply to a reply before replying to the topic Embarrassment

Thanks for posting this really detailed report, especially the Heli Air Monaco flight must have been a great experience, even though not really cheap.

Did you mention that you still got Lufthansa Miles&More on that FU flight? I found this rather unusual, isn't it many years ago that they were Team Lufthansa partner? All the best luck to Air Litorral and their staff!


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Fantastic report!

Et alors Christophe, vous parlez déjà un peu de français? Big grin

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

@Alex

great "All the best luck to Air Litorral and their staff!"  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
you changed your mind ? *GREAT*
and FU joined Miles&More last year, Team Lufthansa is ages ago last flight on behalf of LH done by FU was in december 2000  Sad

Jumbolino.

PS: of course it would be a shame to see this colorful birds gone away (copyright is by Konstantin) !



Kind Regards, Jutta.
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

Hello everybody,
thanks for your replies!

@ The777Man: The restaurant in T2 is a good place for spotting as long as you don't want to take any photos. For photos it is not good at all (two windows and a distance between them; the view on the apron / runway is indirect through the waiting lounge, but on a higher level). But you can see all movements on the runway and you can take the registrations if you want to.

@ TriStar500: Ndebele already gave the answer to your question about DI business class. There is no curtain; you don't see who booked business and who booked the cheap tariff. But I guess that there are not many business passengers on the flights to Nice anyway as this is mainly a tourist destination. Besides, the main advantage of the business ticket, the possibility of ticket changes (different flight times) is not too useful on the NCE-route as there is only one flight per day. This makes more sense for the domestic services with many daily flights where you can decide spontaneously if you want to take the return flight at 17:00 or at 19:00 for example.

By the way: I forgot to mention that Air Littoral offers a one-class product; there is no specific business class.

@ Ndebele / Jumbolino: Yes, I was surprised to hear that Air Littoral is partner of LH Miles & More. As this trip was not planned in advance, I unfortunately didn't have my Miles & More Card with me. Well, I will have to send in the boarding passes instead.

@ Frederic: Mais oui, bien sur! Big grin Peut-être je vais écire mon prochain rapport en Francais...  Big grin



User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Very "Nice" report.
I am pleased to see that, despite problems, FU is still as good.
It was the first airline I worked for. And most of my knowledge comes from that time. I sincerely hope they will be able to maintain this quality and their spirit with their new owners. (fyi, they will keep only the CRJ)
Teva



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

@ Frederic: Mais oui, bien sur! Peut-être je vais écire mon prochain rapport en Francais...
Honestly, I always thought about posting a bilingual a.net trip report - but that would be English and German, of course. But then, whenever I finished the English version, I didn't want to spend another three hours for the German version.


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Thanks for your replies.

@Teva: I have heard that Air Littoral will only keep the CRJ. I think this is, under an economical point of view, the right decision. It makes no sense to have three completely different types of aircraft with nearly the same size in a relatively small fleet (although I will miss the ATR ...).
If they should need a larger aircraft in the future (of the size of the F70), they could maybe decide to take the CRJ 700.


User currently offlineJumbolino From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 490 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3182 times:

Teva, ContactAir,

yes, of course from economical reasons it's a very good decision to have only one aircraft type in your fleet, but I will miss the ATR's too
and in forseeable future more and more airlines which still have ATR's will give them away for economical reasons AND because most of pax, "normal" pax don't like turboprops  Sad

Jumbolino.



Kind Regards, Jutta.
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